Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Caitlin Clark beats LSU, UConn advances to Final Four

Episode Date: April 2, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Caitlin Clark's 41-point performance in Iowa's Elite 8 victory over Angel Reese and LSU in the NCAA Women's Basketball Tournament. Later, they discuss Paige Bueckers and UConn beating JuJu Watkins and USC to advance to the Final Four. 0:00 Introduction03:30 Caitlin Clark and Iowa defeat Angel Reese and LSU to advance to Final Four19:30 UConn defeats USC34:25 Jerry Rice says Deion Sanders was his toughest matchup; also mentioned Darrell Green45:50 Brock Purdy doubles salary due to performance based raise49:35 Ryan Poles on why it was hard to let Justin Fields go52:50 Fansided power ranks all no. 1 overall picks of the 21st century #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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all orders placed. So thank you again for selling us out, and thank you. UConn beat USC to advance to the Final Four, 80-73. But I thought that first game was so good, Ocho, we need to start with that one. Kaitlyn Clark carries Iowa past Angel Reese

in the last year's national champ, Louisiana Tech Lady Tigers, to reach the Final Four, 94-87. Clark, 41 points with 12 assists, lifted the top seeded Hawkeyes over last year's defending champ. Iowa advances to the Final Four for the second straight year and gains a measure of revenge against a team that knocked them out, who beat them in the national title game last

year. Kaitlyn Clark was phenomenal, Ocho. Tied an NCAA record, tournament record with nine three-pointers. Broke the game open. It was 45-45 at the half, and then she comes out in the third quarter and launches four and hits them and now she's broken the ncaa all-time record for three pointers made 540 with

another game possible two games to go she passes oklahoma taylor robertson's 543 537 it was also clark's 20th game in which she scored at least 30 points and 10 assists in her career. This is also Clark's third game with 40-point double-doubles in the NCAA tournament, Elite Eight 2023 National Semifinals, and the 2024 Elite Eight. So she was phenomenal. Angel Reese was great until she fouled out 17 points, 20 rebounds. She fouled out late in the fourth quarter. She tweaked that anchor early in the ballgame, Ocho. Flage Johnson added 23, but it was not enough to overcome Kaitlyn Clark and the Hawkeyes. Ocho, you watched this game.

What did you like about it? Listen, I watched the game. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. It was very worthy of all the hype that everybody talked about. Obviously, Kaitlyn Clark and what she's done throughout the entirety of the season. Andrew Reese, what her and the LSU Tigers have done throughout the entirety of the season in the build-up to this matchup. It was everything I expected it to be, especially for me, someone who doesn't watch much basketball.

This was a joy for me to watch because it was exciting all four quarters. Obviously, Kaitlin Clark, dude, she's amazing. She's amazing. She's amazing. Listen, I don't want to do any type of comparisons as far as NBA players, but pulling up from half court, pulling up from McDonald's, pulling up from outside the gym, pulling up from the stands, basically is what she did out there. And she was so efficient from the field and being able to do whatever she wanted the entirety of the night was really awesome. It was awesome to see. It was a great matchup. The LSU Tigers, Coach Mokey and Angel Reese and their squad, they played a hell of a game, but it just wasn't enough to unseat the Iowa Hawkeyes.

And I really enjoyed it. I really did. Yeah, I think the women's college game is alive and well. Last year, this game did slightly less than 10 million. I can believe it's going to be double digits, at least when we get the ratings back tomorrow. Kaitlyn Clark was phenomenal you knew she would be i felt in order for her to win this game i felt she was the best player on the

court but i felt lsu had the better team and in order for our to advance she was going to have to have a cheryl swoops type of a game and uh i'd cheryl swoops in the national in the national championship game she shot shot 16 to 22 or 17 to22. She had 47, and she lifted her team. Kaitlyn Clark had a similar type game. She was phenomenal. Cheryl didn't have the assist. I thought LSU did a terrible job. Kim Mulkey did a terrible job of coaching

because they did nothing to get the ball out of her hands. You got to trap her. You got to blitz her. Make her give the ball up. You know when she goes left, she's looking to launch a three. If she goes right, she's looking to keep the ball or she's going to give it up

and she's going to go get it back. Look at the way UConn, how they approach Juju Watkins. She got the ball, they blitz her. Give it up. Sometimes you show, but you can't. And then the first two possessions, what do they do, Ocho?

They go under. You mean to tell me, Kaitlyn Clark, who arguably one of the greatest shooters in women's college history, you're going to go under the screen? Right, right. There's no possible way you rehearse that. I'm going to say Kim Bulkey, she coached them to go over the screen, and that was just them going under

the screen. But there's no... Would you ever go up on the screen on Steph Curry? Would you ever go up on the screen on Dame Lillard? Absolutely not. You have to give her the same level of respect in the women's college game that you would give those great shooters, and that

what she is. And so I just didn't see enough adjustments um lsu did a tremendous job on the glass out rebounded about 18 um i thought when uh um angel reese tweaked that ankle she wasn't the same player because she didn't have the same level of lift ocho but also you look at our early on what were they looking to do push the pace they're looking to get it there's a look up and down the court we can't let you set your defense because we don't have the size to match up with you so every chance we can get an easy bucket we're looking to get that we're gonna get it clark get the ball eyes immediately up up, she's ahead. Right. Boom. But give, you know what, even though I thought LSU did a terrible job

of defensing Kaitlyn Clark, you have to give her because she rose to the occasion. One of two things needed to happen. You make her a scorer or you make her a facilitator. But you can't let her do both. You can't let her go get 41 and 12 assists because now you're out of mercy. You're out of mercy, Ocho. You got to make a decision.

Braun, either you're going to get 30, 40 with three or four or five assists, or you're going to get 50. But we're not going to let you get 40 and 15. You can't let these great players do that to you because now not only are they getting theirs they're allowing their other team their teammates to get involved as well yeah but sometimes you have to think about it there are ways like like you just said not allowing or trying to contain a player you can't stop them you can only you can only hope to contain them yes or slow them down they would find ways they will run plays and find ways to get caitlin clark the ball and make sure she can get those shots off and get open. And then if, let's say, the coaching was a little different on Coach Mulkey's part, I think

still then the Hawkeyes would adjust and still find ways to make sure they can find ways to get Kaitlyn Clark open. And she's one who can, how do I say this the right way in basketball terms, she can create a shot on her own. She can create a shot on her own. Yes. She can create a shot on her own where she doesn't need much help. So once you put in an instruction environment, now you have picks and you got screens and you got rolls, then that makes it even that much better.

Perfect. I can trap her. Because what she did when she said, when they said to pick and roll, you brought the defender closer. Now I can trap you. Now I can blitz you and make you give the ball up. Now you might get it back or they might roll to the basket, but I can't let Kaitlin Clark. What do you say if I'm playing T. Higgins goes get 125 and boy gives me 75 and two touchdowns, I can live with that because there's three guys.

I just can't let the guy I know they're trying to get the ball to beat me. You know the one chance they got of beating you is Kaitlyn Clark. So if somebody else rides to the occasion, hey, we've seen that happen. We've seen that happen before. The second tier, third tier guys rise to the occasion, don't you? Hey, we've seen that happen. We've seen that happen before. The second-tier, third-tier guys rise to the occasion. But I can't let Kaitlyn Clark go get 41-12. Right. I have a question.

Hey, I'm looking at the chat, and they said my camera's blurry. Is it blurry on your end? Looks fine to me. Do I look blurry? Looks fine to me. Huh? They said it's fixed now. They said it's fixed now. They said it's fixed now.

It is? Yeah. Okay. Oh, Shat was making fun of my camera. Talking about my camera back, my camera from 2013. Well, the nightcap looks blurry. Nightcap does look blurry.

Can you see it? In the back. Oh, you said you were blurry. You said the nightcap is blurry, but you were blurry at first. So what do I do? Nothing. You good? what you could we don't care about the sign long as you long as you're clear okay long yeah yeah yeah okay okay i'm ready now i'm ready i want to talk some more basketball yeah i just think the thing is ocho is that look great players are going to be great but you gotta got to make it tough on you.

There's a reason why they lock the doors. They put the money in the vault. They don't have the money when you walk into the cashier, the money just sitting up there. We're going to make it difficult for you. There's a hundred cash. If you look at every stall,

you go up to the cashier, every stall has a camera pointing directly on it. Most of the time there's security in there. Right. There's a big old vault. OK, so I've got to make it difficult for you. Yeah. Do people steal money from a bank? Absolutely. But is it easy? No, no. Great players are going to get theirs. But I can't make it easy on you. I've got to make it as difficult as I possibly can. I got to make you exert.

I got to make you take some contested, tough, tough shots. But I also know the game plan says that when she goes left, she likes to launch the three. The three. And when she goes right, she's looking to finish. Or she'll give it up and try to get it back. Well, if I know that, as soon as he comes left, I'm going to come try. I'm going to come blitz her. I'm going to get it out of Well, if I know that, as soon as he comes left, I'm going to come

blitz, I'm going to get it out of hand. You know what's funny? I like that you said it, but you hear how you just called out the game plan based on what she likes to do, and you know it in your mind, but then having to execute it and stop it on the court is a whole different ball game. Hell, you know what LeBron going to do when he looked down at the ball and he stepped back

to hit that goddamn three. You know what LeBron going to do when he goes to the right, he drives to the basket. We all know that, but has anybody been able to stop it? No. When it comes to Kobe, when Kobe and his go-to move, or Michael Jordan and his go-to move, hell, goddamn Dame Lillard, Kyrie. There are certain moves that players have that they do consistently that we watching from home or as analysts, as journalists, we know what they like to do, but the hard part is stopping it because they're so good at it. If he hits that shot and I got a hand in his face, I can live with that. You got to live with that. Right, right. But the fact of the matter is

I'm not up on the guy and I know LeBron is looking at the ball and I'm three feet away because still the scouting report on LeBron is that don't let him get past you don't let him get downhill so a lot of times they'll concede the shot that three-point shot now he's made him pay for it a lot this year he's shooting almost 42 percent from the three but I just believe look maybe it was in the car this game reminded me a lot of uh uh uh the UNLV Duke game. Duke, UNLV blew them out in 1990. They came back, tried to repeat. It was perfect, undefeated.

And Duke got a measure of revenge. Duke played extremely well. But I just thought that LSU, there were some things that they probably should have done. And I'm sure Kim Mulkey, she probably won't admit, but she probably is going to say, you know what, we should have tried to get the ball out of her hands a lot sooner. I mean, it wasn't until

like a couple of minutes left in the game, then all of a sudden you blitz her. All of a sudden you switch it. Bro, you should have been doing that. Especially, you let the first two shots go in. Right. You can't let me catch two deep balls early then. Because you got hell on your hands for the rest of the game.

You know what's funny? Is, for one, they allowed her to get in the rhythm. Yes. And you know she's in the rhythm because she's pulling up from anywhere on the goddamn court. Once you have that type of confidence and once you roll in like that in a game, there's really nothing you can do. There's really nothing you can do except find a way to try to find a way to distinguish the fire, to put the fire out. And how do you do that? That's

by trapping early. Finding ways to disrupt the timing of the offense, get in the way, play a little bit more aggressive, a little bit more aggressive than usual. But I mean, they weren't able to do it and you know, now we got, but who plays next?

South Carolina plays North Carolina State, and Iowa plays UConn. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Now, do you have a favorite in that Iowa-UConn matchup? I think Iowa will be favored slightly. Right, right. But the one thing, hey, it's hard to bet against Geno in the big game. Geno, hey, he's

going to get his young ladies ready to play. That's one thing Geno does. And you see Geno, he made it tough. He made it tough on their best player, Juju. Yeah, he made it tough. I'm going to bless you. I'm going to trap you. I'm going to do everything I possibly can. What makes her so good is that she's still able to

put the ball on the floor. She got a step she can step through still she can pull up so she she is she's really fundamentally sound you can tell she's worked with a coach before and she probably trained in the offseason with a lot of guys because her game is is really similar to the guys a lot of the stuff that she does remind you of a bail player she was sensational but kudos to the Iowa Hawkeyes they're moving on advancing to the final four for the third time uh 1993 was the first time 23 was the second time in back-to-back years 23 and 24 thanks to a herculean effort by Caitlin Clark she was 13 of 29 from the field 9 of 20 from the three uh six or seven from the free throw line she had seven rebounds 12 assists turned the ball over but that's to be

expected because she had the ball she played the entire 40 minutes of the ball game yeah no no rest no rest no rest um but they did a great job and they're advancing very well, very well deserved. And I thought the LSU and the women, this is going to be the most watched game because it was so close throughout the entirety of the game. All eyes was going to be on this game considering what transpired last year. And Iowa gets a measure of revenge. They come out and they win this ball game 94 to 87.

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by the score of 80-73. Paige Beckers, 26, 28 points, 10 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocks. She was 11-23 from the floor, three of six from the three-point line, three of three from the free-throw line. She had 28 points, 10 rebounds, six assists. Aaliyah Edwards has 24 points, six rebounds, one assist a block. They got great contributions.

Juju Watkins was nine of 25, two of 25 2 of 6 99 from the free throw line she had 29 points 10 rebounds 2 assists uh forbes had 24 points 3 rebounds 3 assists i just and you could look ocho give give gino credit because obviously he did not want juju to go haywire she's more thanuju to go haywire. She's more than capable of going haywire. I'm going to make it tough. You see the percentage she shot, 9 of 25. Right.

I'm going to make it tough. Great players are going to get their numbers, Ocho. The likelihood of you stopping a great receiver where he doesn't get any catches, but I got to limit you. Right. Wherever you catch the ball, I got to get you on the ground yeah you think it all do you think it's also about personnel actually having the personnel to be able to pull off some of the things you want to do and being able to stop a caitlin clark if you don't have the personnel to do so then it makes it very deep coaching can't do that no

you have someone just that great well i don't have the personnel to pull off what you need to get done all year long flage johnson guarded the best the best perimeter player for the opposing team. LSU. Right. For some reason, Kim Mulkey said, you know what? We're going to put Haley Van Lith on slower foot and she's small. Flagey is not seven foot six foot tall, but she's quick footed. So she's able to slide and probably disrupt her better than Haley Van Liff could. So sometimes, you know, coaches get in their own head, too, and they try to make things more difficult than what they need to be.

Right, right, right. What have you been doing all year? Who's been guarding the best perimeter player for the opposing team? Flage. This game, it didn't happen. You start out with Haley Van Liff on her. Haley Van Liff is slow. She's not as tall

as Flage. And she's been sick. She had to get an IV. She's been sick. So let me get this right. You got a slow, small, sick person, young lady guarding Kaitlyn Clark. Right.

It's all about match Right. It's all about match-ups. Yes. It's all about match-ups, and maybe, maybe Mokey felt, um, maybe Mokey felt, you know, she would have been the best look and gave them the best chance

having her on Clark. How? If you slow, you short, and you sick. So you got the three essence. You slow, short, and sick.

And you think you're going to do what? I don't know. I don't know. I know one thing. It was a good goddamn good game. It was a great game. It wasn't good. It was great.

It was a goddamn good game. And this is what we needed. We needed the game to be close. We needed the eyes to stay. The one thing I was like, I hope it doesn't go get blown out one way or another so the people start to leave. But I love the fact that the game stayed close

throughout the entirety of the game. Kaitlin Clark came out on a mission in the third quarter, four threes in the third. And I think the shortest one was probably 27 feet. Crazy. So. Crazy work. But this game right here, I thought UConn played really well.

They held their pose. I thought they held their poise better than what USC did. I thought, because there are some shots that Juju missed early in the game. Those are walking apart. Those are walking apart. Those are walking apart. I'm talking about point blank. She left a couple of them short. She back-ironed a couple of them.

And I think nerds kind of got the best of them. UConn girls have been at least Paige. And I'm excited for Paige because she's had two gruesome injuries. And for her to come back and fight through those and to play at the level in which she's playing at, I was happy to see that. But give UConn credit. I mean, this is an old hat for them, Bojo. This is what they normally do. Listen, matter of fact, speaking of UConn, there's a young lady.

I'm not good with last names, but she's the five. She's the five for UConn. Paige Becker. No, no, no, no. She's the five. Oh, you're talking about the one that had the multicolored hair? Yeah, man. A little airwaves. Boy, she tough, boy.

Yeah. She tough. I was going to have to have an answer for that. Boy, she was tough, boy. Yeah. In the post, off the dribble. Right. She was tough.

And when she went downhill, oh, she coming downhill. Yeah. And that's what you have to have. I mean, the thing is, is that Iowa doesn't have really like an inside presence where they go to

and can get buckets. Now they got guys, you know, they do a great job of screening and rolling to the basket. They'll catch you, they'll backdoor you things like that but Aaliyah Edwards can post up and see this is why I thought that LSU would have

the advantage because they have Anissa Marr who can post they have uh yeah they have uh Angel who can post up yeah but when you get to post you got to take your time and I think I thought I thought in that in that, Angel and Anissa, I thought they rushed a lot of shots. They knew help was coming. And so I got to get here before the help gets there. And they rushed some shots and got those up, which weren't very good looks.

And you're like, okay, you got the ball down there. Just take your time. Make them foul you if necessary. But I just thought that once Angel tweaked that ankle, she didn't have the lift. She didn't have the confidence. I mean, she was out there, but she was just out there in presence because she wasn't Angel that was that dog before she had that injury.

Right. But give UConn credit. I mean, I think this might be one of Geno's best coaching jobs. We know he can coach. A lot of his young ladies, and I think this might be one of Geno's best coaching jobs. We know he can coach a lot of his young ladies. And I think Edwards, I think she said she's leaving to go pro. Didn't she say she's going to turn pro? Didn't she go to WNBA?

But Beckers is coming back. And, you know, Geno, probably get him another two or three five-star recruits. But it's not like it normally is. It's not. Young ladies are going different places now, Ojo. Places now, yeah. You know, you get a Sue Bird, you got a Tarazi, and you got a Swain Cash, and you got Renee Montgomery, and you got

Maya Moore, and you got the Breonna Stewart, and you got the Tina Charleses, and you had all these, this pipeline is back to back to back to back. It's different now. it's different now different now it's different now they listen that in that that nil coming to play man yeah probably like 10 15 years ago juju probably been going to she probably went to uconn now maybe her maybe she is an la kid so maybe uh her dream was to play at USC. They had the Cheryl Miller,

the Pam and Paula McGee. You had Cynthia Cooper. You had Tina Thompson. You had Lisa Leslie. So you've had a pipeline of great college players that turned out. Cooper was a four-time champion, a multiple NBA

finals MVP, WNBA MVP. So they've had great lineage, but they've won two national championships. I think they won, what, 84, 85? I think that's when they won the championship back with Cheryl Miller, went back to back. And I think Texas ended up beating one of the great, Clarissa Davis, took them down.

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women's college basketball getting the shine and the credit that they deserve. Kaitlyn Clark certainly held up her end of the deal. Now you got Juju coming on. Paige Beckers was sensational. The Lady Gamecocks led by Dawn Staley.

They don't have a name. You know, Cardosa, 6'7", I think she's 6'7", 6'8". The big that's in the middle, she decided that she's going to go pro for a while. What's the point guard name? For a while we?

For a while we? Yeah. She what's the point guard name for a while we full of wowie yeah she's since she's a freshman um but the one thing we know don don can coach now she's gonna have them ready and she's hey they play inside out guys knock down shots and that's what uh lsu didn't do a great job of night they didn't knock down their open shots when they had the opportunity to matter of fact yes i don't know the freshman who runs the one. She's the one. She's the point. South Carolina. Yeah. Boy, for Huawei.

Hey, boy, she's a real deal. Yeah. She got handled. She's exciting. Now, that's the box office. When you pay $75, whatever ticket costs, to go watch a women's college game, that's what you're paying your money for.

Oh, man, she's exciting. So, Paige Becker's finished with a team-high 28 points, 10 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocks. She notched her 7th straight 20-point performance. UConn has been impressive. This tournament not only have the Huskies overcome lack of depth, but their passing has been fun

to watch. And you know what Gino does. They have to be unselfish. So in four tournament games, UConn has 73 assists on 113 made shots. So that means they're moving the ball. So guess what? UConn, Kaitlin Clark,

South Carolina, NC State. It's going to be great. NC State got both men's and women's into the Final Four. Final Four? Yep. Wait, when is the South Carolina game? Next week.

Friday night. Oh, next. Okay, we got to wait. Man, we got to wait. Yeah. They played yesterday. They won 70-58. Okay.

So you got UConn going for their 12th national title. Geno advanced to his 23rd Final Four. Caitlin Clark, the viewership has been astronomical. I think because of Caitlin Clark, because of Paige Beckerson, if I'm not mistaken, they were on the USA Under-19 team that won the gold. Huskies have tried for their first national championship since 2016.

Kaitlyn Clark was co-freshman of the year back in 2021. They met in San Antonio for the Sweet 16 that year. UConn won 92-72. But this is a very different Kaitlyn Clark now. Very different. This is not...

This is not your brother and sister, Kaitlyn Clark. She a full-grown woman now. Yeah. As a matter of fact... Go ahead. Speaking of, did you hear about the offer?

Ice Cube offered her to come play in the Big 3 for five million? Yeah. For what? I mean, why did IQ need to do that? For what?

What do you hope to accomplish with that? I mean, listen. You just said it. You just said it. You just said it yourself. Viewership. What she's brought to the game, what she's brought to the game

of women's college basketball. She wants to compete against somebody in her skill set. Come on, bro. So if a team offered a woman $75 million to come play in the NFL, she should take it. No.

Why not? Listen. Wait, I have a question. Would she ever make $5 million in the WNBA? It doesn't matter, Ocho. Everything can't be about the money. Why would she go compete against someone that she can't

win against? Wait, everything shouldn't be about the money? So why not offer Asia Wilson? Why not offer somebody else? Why not them? Why Kaitlyn Clark? I have a question. Yes.

Who's moving the needle right now? Ocho. Come on, man. Ocho. Come on, don't do me like that. Ocho. Who's moving the needle right now? It's not about moving the needle, Ocho.

It is about moving the needle. So you want her to go compete against grown men? You're not. I have a question. You want to go compete against grown men? You're not. I have a question. Do you want her to compete against grown men? It's a simple yes or a simple no. There's a reason why they have women's leagues. There's a reason why they have the WTA and the professional men's league.

There's a reason why they have a men's tour and a women's tour. Ocho? I have a question. Listen, I have a men's tour and a women's tour Ocho I have a question listen I have a question there's a reason why Ice Cube offered her the five million to come play

it's not like she's playing a whole season she's playing a few games just playing a few games having a little fun so what's she gonna do Ocho go out there and shoot the lights out

Ocho against those guys against guys grown men so you want a woman to compete against grown men in basketball? What you trying to say,

Grown? What you trying to say? She can't hang? No, no, she cannot hang. There's a reason why women play in women's sports, men play in women's. Don't do that, Ocho. Listen, listen. The offer was sweet. It's nice. I'm not sure anybody. I'm not sure anybody.

You're playing in the WNBA already you're taking a pay cut based on what you make at Iowa anyway and if somebody those deals follow her there will come endorsements there won't be NIL deals there will be an endorsement deals so why don't Sha'Carri Richardson rest against a million

yeah she could beat a few up now she ain't beating the top 10 she ain't beating the top 20 no now. She ain't beating the top 10. She ain't beating the top 20. No, no, but she got the highest price. So why not? Why not, Ocho? Eyeballs is going to bring eyeballs. You want eyeballs.

So why not? Yeah. Listen, I'm just asking you a question, Bob. That's all. Come on, don't do that. I hate that Ice Cube did that because he knows she's going to turn it down, and rightfully so. Women are not competing against men. That's why have women men's sports and women's sports so you think you think she's gonna turn it down yes okay all right i was just curious i just want to hear your opinion

you got you got you got real passionate about that because there's a reason why you have olympics you have women's sports you have men's sports in tennis you have women play women and men play men there's a reason in track and field women don't compete against the men in what situation do you see when it's when it comes to a skill now maybe if you want to play cornhole or horseshoes or something sure but when you're talking about where I got to put my athleticism on display. Play, right. Really? Yeah. I just want to hear

what you're going to say, baby. That's it. That's it. You know, that's it. That's it. You want to see that. I mean, oh, what'd you call him? So you wanted to go down there and bang with Kenya Martin. And baby, why not?

Yeah, that's who's in the WNBA. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, for one, she ain't going to be in the post anyway. What's she going to be? She ain't going to be in the post. From 27, 28, 29 feet out. You do know they guard. You know three on three.

So the four is condensed. You do realize that, right? So ain't a whole lot of space. Where you going? All right, I got you, baby. You do realize that, right? So ain't a whole lot of space. Where you going? All right. I got you, baby. You got it. Next up, this is our first segment of the day. We got a news

cap. Yeah. Jay Rice did not have to think too hard when asked which defensive back presented him the toughest matchup during his hall of fame career deon sanders rice said the battles went back to the day even when he was in atlanta also in dallas and it was mano y mano and i was primed and he was and i prepared myself for that all the reps during the week i wanted to take all those reps i wanted to be able to have a game plan going in that if we're going to face the best, you better have a game plan and I wanted to initiate.

I was not going to wait for him to bring it to me, so I was going to attack him right from the start. You know my route running with double moves, even if we run the play, I was sprinting 60 yards down the field. Another speedy DB came at the prime and that was also a fast guy. That was Darrell

Green. He was real fast. You have to have a game plan when you have to come up to the line. You've got to get off against their base on the snap of the ball, and you have to have the greatest coach ever, Bill Walsh, to tell me you have to win at the line of scrimmage, and that's what I was able to do. Yeah, most definitely. I like that.

I like that. Listen, we equate greatness and success, feeling that if you can run in a straight line really fast, it equates to you being a great player. But that's not what it does. The fact that Prime was able to put it all together. Yes. He was able to put it all together. And Jerry Rice knew exactly what I have to do is make you uncomfortable as fast as possible, not playing around the line of scrimmage, picking a side and get going and putting the pressure on you, putting the onus on you to make a decision on what you want to do. And Jerry, Jerry was great at that. Obviously, Jerry, one of the greatest route runners of all time. And Jerry's, Jerry Rice's route running belongs in the Louvre. In the Louvre Museum out there.

Louvre. How you say it? The Louvre. In the Louvre. Oh, the Louvre? Yes. Okay. You cultured.

You real cultured. Okay. But yes, his rock running was phenomenal back then. Very detailed, very precise. His depth, the way he set people up, it was beautiful. It was beautiful. So I understand exactly what you're talking about. And I've watched those clips with him.

I watched Jerry Rice's one-on-ones. I've watched all the clips with him and Deion going at it. And the battles were phenomenal. Sometimes Jerry got him. Sometimes he got Jerry, which is what made it so great. So great to watch, man. But, ah, man, he was an artist. Without winning at the line of scrimmage, I mean, you're done as a wide receiver.

You've got to win at the line of scrimmage. Because... Go ahead. Ocho, the quarterback ain't got 15 seconds to throw the ball. No, he doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. And the funny thing about it... I think one of the things that a lot of people,

a lot of receivers make mistakes, and some of the coaches that have them, people, a lot of receivers make mistakes, and some of the coaches that have them, especially during the offseason, you need to understand your personnel. You need to understand your DNA. You need to understand your makeup and your skill set. You know, if you ain't got that sauce in you, you don't need to be doing that sauce type shit. You know, you need to understand what you're good at.

Find your niche and get from point A to point B as fast as possible. Everybody can't be Devontae Adams at the line. Everybody can't be goddamn Keenan Allen, you know, and one and then, you know, you find what you do good and figure out how to get from point A to point B within the timing of the offense so you can be efficient every goddamn time.

Everybody trying to, you know, ah. But that's the thing, though, Ocho. We done got to the point now, Ocho. Everybody want to look good running around, so there ain't nobody catching no ball. You do the, ha-ga, ha-ga, ha-ga, ha-ga, woo, woo, woo.

Bro, you five yards. Yeah, you wasting time. You don't do it. You wasting time. Ocho, first of all, you hands, and then you, ah, ah,

ah. The quarterback doing this. Yeah. Holding, pumping the ball. People need to. I mean, players, receivers need to understand. Yes. All those tricks and those hezzies.

And those are change ups. That's when you have to run the same route. Maybe for the third time. Then you change it up by throwing the hezzy. Or decelerating a little bit. Just to give them something different. Give them the illusion that you're doing something different even though it's still the same

route. They coming, they doing the tricks off jump. Off the jump? Off jump, no. The first time you run a route, it should be full speed. Get to your depth and get out the ball ready for the ball. Yes. Maybe come second, third quarter, that DB notice, oh, he in

the same alignment. Yes. Okay, that mean maybe the same route is coming again. Now you want to come off the line a little bit. Maybe Hezzy.

Give him the freeze a little bit. Then burst again. Right. Boom, run the same route. Right. You got, it's so many different ways to skin a cat

with the same route, but they coming in with all the tricks right off jump. Right off the bucket. Right off jump, man. Come on now. Well, that's when you're not really,

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seven eight variations off this same route so I need I need to I need to keep that stem and I need to make the scene and all of a sudden I got it out. I got a basic cross. I got a hook. I got all that. I got a seven. I got to make everything. I got choice. I got option. I got to make everything on that stem. So I'm releasing now. Eventually, I'm going to

release. I'm going to take like two or three boop. Give me that right there. Let's go Yeah You know what I'm so glad we talked about rock One of the things I hate One of the things I hate

When a DB is playing off Everything should be in a straight line Yeah Everything should be in a straight line I hate when receivers Veer inside or veer outside. Because if you got a good DB, all he's going to do is just weave with you. He's going to weave whichever way you're going.

And if you weave it, if you lean in inside coming off the ball, all he's doing is weaving right there, making sure he maintains his leverage and he's always in position to break on the ball. Just run straight. Just run straight and step on his fucking toes. Yep. Take the tricks out the game. All this, you know, wiggling and all.

Man, forget all that, man. Man. Especially when you get to the next level, you're going to get exposed. Yeah. And, you know, I think the thing is, Ochoa, you need to be working on that stuff in practice. You know, because a lot of times I would work on stuff in practice. And Dedrick George, Tony Veland, Ronnie Bradford, I was like, hey, bro. So what did you see that day?

Like, Sharp, I can tell you getting ready to break because you got on your toes. Yeah. Okay, fine. I hit him with that. Damn, bro. Hey, I ain't never seen that route before. So I'm constantly getting, hey, give me feedback. Give me feedback.

Because Ocho, I know this. Here are guys that see me in OTA. They saw me in training camp. They see me every day at practice. If they have a difficult time covering me, you got no chance watching me on tape. On tape, right. Yeah. You got

no chance. And so I'm thinking all the time, I'm keeping that stem. Now, I know you, oh, I got to out rap this time, but you're not going to be able to tell when I run that scene because it's going to look the same. That's something that I had

that I learned from the veteran DBs that were there at the time when I was in Cincinnati. Remember Jeff Burris? Remember Jeff Burris? Yeah. Jeff Burris, Torrey James, Delto Neal. I know you remember Delto Neal. He was? Yeah. So I had

a problem. When I come out the huddle, I always grab my glove. And when the ball's coming to me, I restrap. I restrap my thing right before the snap of the ball. And I do like this with my gloves. What do you think Jeff Burrows said? Hey, young fella, you know every time you get ready to get that ball, you know what you do, right? I say, you for real? How you notice that?

Because I'm paying attention. Every time you come to the line, and I know it's a pass play, because you get to the line. And when it's not a pass play, you don't do nothing. They look at everything. Look at everything. I'm like, well, god damn, boy, how the hell you notice that? Oh, Joe, I used to do a thing like when I was catching the pass,

I was like, hey, we got a flyer over here. He's sitting light. I'm going out for a pass. Oh, he heavy. He blocking. It's a run play. When you say it, you're talking about a little closer to the tackle, you mean? No, no.

I ain't put my hand all the way down on the dirt because I need to be able to get up out of there. Okay, okay, okay. I see what you mean. That's a good one. It's a run play, so I'm heavy. That's a good one. So now, hey, you got to switch it up. Mm-hmm.

You know who else? Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn is defensive coordinator with Detroit right now, right? Mm-hmm. Aaron Glenn caught me when I was a youngster. I think he might have been with the Jets. I think he was either with the Jets or maybe the Texans. I can't remember.

And he knew when it was a pass play. He told me in the third quarter, you know I know the ball coming to you every time when you come out the huddle. You come out too excited. You smiling. You got a mouthful of gold smiling. And when it's a run play, you walk out the huddle. So when it was a pass play, I would come out all excited. I ain't had no clue.

I don't think someone like that is paying attention. He's watching everything. And he was right. He was right he was right every time it's the pass play i come out of the huddle excited get to the line same shit yeah do like this and tighten my gloves because the ball the ball even i'm just saying it's the pass play of the ball whether the ball was coming or not and he he keyed that and he's he's not even playing on my team he just seen me and noticed that throughout the game. Yeah.

You get the TV copy. We would get the TV copy because you could hear them saying, this Reno, we played the Chargers. Every time they go to Reno or Vegas, they'd check the cover too. No matter what the formation, they would check the cover too. I said, Coach, I told Mike, I said, Mike, every time we come out in this empty set, they check it. They go into cover too. He's like, are you sure? I said, every time. He we come out, we come out in this empty set. They check it. They go into cover, too.

He's like, are you sure? I said, every time he's saying Vegas or he's saying Reno. 13 for a buck, 53 and three tubs. Keep on talking. Let me keep on talking. I let me hear you here. I don't I don't hurt. I don't saw it.

I listen to the TV copy and you doing the exact same thing. Hey, Coach, this is what they're doing. Well, you must have been killing them right up the seam, huh? I was doing everything. Oh, I was nasty with it that day, Ocho. Oh, I helped them put me outside. I ran on DB. I ran a slug on him.

Yeah, he bit? He had to. You must have been, y'all must have been inside of 30, probably inside of 30. Yeah, it was about 20 yards. I knew it. I know he was going to try to jump that slant, especially that close in because he's not expecting you to go deep.

I ran that thing right there. I said, oh, you coming right there? Well, let me go and let me take it up top. Wait, you gave him the eyes too? Yeah! Oh, he biting that. I said, oh. If you put them eyes in there like the ball coming, oh, he coming. Especially

you get aggressive corner. Oh, it's a tight end. Because he cluing. I'm going to jump that slant. He cluing. And when I went inside, John did this. Oh. He right there. Got him. Got him. Boo-boo. Boo right there. Got him. Let's go. I like it.

That was the beginning of the end. It was all downhill after that. Check this out. Brock Purdy nearly doubled his salary due to a bonus from NFL performance-based pay. Maybe you've heard about this before, but Brock Purdy was mysteriously irrelevant in the NFL draft. As such, his base salary this season was

$870,000. When the NFL announced its performance-based bonuses on Monday, it was a pretty big deal to Purdy because Purdy made more than $739,000 in bonus program, about 85% bump from his base regular season salary.

The leader in bonus play was Baltimore's guard, John Simpson, the 2020 fourth round pick, who made $974,613. Simpson started 17 games thousand six hundred and thirteen dollars. Simpsons started all Simpsons started 17 games and played 99% of the team's offensive snaps. That's live. Them incentives come

in handy, man. They come in handy. And there are a lot of horror stories, Chad. There are a lot of horror stories when players are going to hit incentives and, you know, the business is so dirty, they've been known to pull players out. They've been known to pull players out.

They decrease their playing time. They make sure they don't hit those incentives. There are many stories of it. I can't remember any off the top of my head, but I've heard the gripes inside the locker room a few times. That's why you don't put incentives in there, because they can control that. The way I look at it, Ocho,

let's just say you're a wide receiver and you're making $30 million. Shouldn't you lead the team in receptions? Shouldn't you lead the team in touchdowns? Shouldn't you go to the Pro Bowl? So if I'm paying you $30 million and I still got to incentivize you to go... Something wrong. We we doing something wrong right

right right right right right so I'm with you when you're right did you have any incentives in your contract um you know what I believe so I believe so I'm not there were some things that were incentive based not that I really needed them but I was able to hit them every time I was able to hit them every time so I always had that extra, not that incentive really drove me to do anything miraculous. I was already motivated in general just because I always put the pressure on myself and did all that goddamn talking. So I had no choice but to show up. So the incentives really didn't matter.

But I hit him every time. Early in my career. I mean, seven-round draft pick. They throw anything. Hey, well, you want this? You want to lead the league in punt returns? Sure, we give you $100,000. You know what I'm saying?

And I think I led. Wait, you played punt return? I was on punt return. Goddamn! Not as a returner, but as a... Oh, but I was going to say, I'm like, Goddamn, Uncle Keter did it all. Nah, nah, nah. I led the team. I was second one year in tackles like, God damn, Uncle Keto did it all. Nah, nah, nah. I led the team.

I was second one year in tackles. I led the special teams in tackle my second year. I led the team. But back then, Ocho, I mean, I think I got $15,000 from leading the team in receptions. It's crazy how the money has changed, huh? Yeah, but you got to realize, O you gotta realize that year I think I only made 220,000 so 15,000

you chopped that in half Uncle Sam take half of that huh nah I wasn't quite Uncle Sam didn't quite get half of it but he got a nice little chunk he got a little chunk he got a little chunk of change that's crazy that's crazy Bears That's crazy.

Bears GM Ryan Pohl jokes he wished Justin Fields was a jerk to make the trade easier. Let's take a listen to what he had to say on the PMAC show, Pat McAfee. Here we go with the bullshit again. In terms of hard decisions, absolutely. His jersey is up, you know, in our house. My son was Justin Fields for Halloween so I was talk a day yeah this is a whale so those conversations are tough so I get from the fan base why that that's a difficult thing but again it's my job to really look at the short term and the long term and set our organization up for success.

So to make a long story short, Justin Fields is a great teammate. He's a great locker room presence. He's a great guy. He's just not good enough a quarterback for us to keep him over Caleb Williams is what he said. Is that what you took from that? That's all that's all that's all it means. Listen, we don't think you're the future. We don't think you're the right person for us. Even though you're a nice guy,

I wish you were a jerk because it would have made it easier for me to trade you. But I have to do what's in the best interest for our organization long term. We just don't think you're the right fit or good enough to do it. Right.

That's all that means. Because even if you're Patrick Holmes and you're a jerk, I ain't trading you. At all. Because you're a great guy. So that's the thing. If you're Patrick Mahomes and you're a jerk, I ain't trading you. At all. Because you're a great guy, so that's the thing. If you're a great guy

and you can't play, they're not going to keep you. You could be a jerk as long as you can play, Ocho. And that's the thing. Man, Caleb Williams, what are the guys in the locker room going to think when Caleb Williams coming with painted nails? Can you play? That's it. Can you play? That's it. Can you play?

That's all it comes down to. That's all it comes down. And the one thing a lot of people are going to try to harp on it, Justin Fields can play. Yes. He can play. I just think him being in the right situation, and I think he has that sitting a year behind Russ, he has that. And I think he's going to be the future for the Steelers. And Russell Williams is

going to move on and get another big payday somewhere else after he showcases what he still has that I know he still has. And I'm excited. I'm excited for Justin Fields. I'm excited for Caleb Williams and what he's going to do in Chicago. And I'm curious what they're going to do. The Bears have two early picks.

Or am I tripping? They got one and nine. They have Carolina pick, which is one and their own pick, I think is nine. I want to see what they do at nine. I want to see what they do at nine because it's going to be

a lot of talent at nine still left on the board. A lot. Hey, I'll be willing to trade back. I got my quarterback. If I can accumulate more assets because they're not one player away Ocho

they're not one player away so if I can trade out of nine and move back and maybe okay go back to 15 go back to 14 15 and get maybe a second round pick or a third rounder I'll do that yeah you can find a gym

yeah you can find a gym you can find a gym in the second or third rounder. Yeah. I'd do that. Yeah, you could find a gym. Yeah. You could find a gym. You could find a gym in the second or third round. Yeah. So that's going to be, that'll be very interesting. So that's what he said.

That's what I deduced by what he said. Justin Fields is a great person. He's a great player. My son had his jersey. He was dressed as him. His jersey is up in our home for Halloween.

My son was him, but the quarterback, we just... Listen, it's all smoke and mirrors. No different than John Maher would talk about, oh, he was sick that Saquon was gone. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on, owners. Come on, GMs. It's okay to be honest. Just be honest. Just come out.

Fanside released their power ranking of every number one overall draft pick of the 20th century. Eli Manning was number one. He was originally drafted by the Chargers, but subsequently traded to the New York Giants. Right. Miles Garrett was number two. Matthew Stafford was number three.

Cam Newton was number four. And rattling out the top five was Andrew Love. Joe Burrow was six. Michael Vick was seven. Mario Williams was eight. Carson Palmer was ninth Luck. Joe Burrow was six. Michael Vick was seven. Mario Williams was eight. Carson Palmer was ninth. And Jerry Goff was 10th. The bottom five thus far, Bryce Young, Jameis Winston, Courtney Brown, David Carr.

Last but not least, Jamarcus Russell. Who's Russell? Eh. I think, you know what? I don't like... So, is this ranking supposed to be from the best number one to the least best? Yes. Yes. Okay. I don't like

the Jameis Winston one being that low. Okay. Because Jameis Winston had some really, really good years in Tampa. He had some really, really good years. Now, people will harp on the interception problems, but he had some really good years in Tampa he had some really really good years now people will harp on the interception problems but he had some really good years um he threw for over 5,000 yards one year he was rookie of the year uh these are some good ones though these are some good ones I mean obviously I think people in your in your terms do you is it it fair? I don't even like using the word bus.

Are there any bus in this group of 25? Didn't live up to expectations. Okay, how about that? I like that. I like that better. That's for lack of better words. Anyone on here didn't live up to expectations? Well, obviously, Jim Marcus Russell didn't.

David Carr didn't. Courtney Brown didn't. David Carr didn't, Courtney Brown didn't. David Carr's situation wasn't fair at all. I think, what, when he got sacked a hundred times in two games? I'm just saying,

you just have to wait, so I'm just saying. Right, right, okay. Bryce Young, the jury's still out. Sam Bradford, Sam Bradford held a lot of teams hostage as far as pay. Because here's the thing, Ocho, when you go number one overall,

you're supposed to be a multiple many, many times pro bowler, all pro player. As a quarterback, you're supposed to, like, be franchise defining. Like, get your team in the playoffs consistently, potentially make a deep playoff run, and eventually get to the Super Bowl. Right. When you get number one, that's the expectations of the quarterback

when he goes number one overall. That's tough, though. That's tough. Some of the situations those quarterbacks went into, it would be tough to do that. You would have to be an elite, an elite talent at the position to change everything around you as far as a franchise

when everything else around you is somewhat of the weak link. If you look at it, Eli won two Super Bowls. Miles Garrett has been a defensive player of the year. Cam Newton was an MVP, took a team to the Super Bowl. Matthew Stafford won a super bowl andrew luck uh had a phenomenal career but took too many hits had to retire early uh joe burrow has gone to a super bowl jared golf has taken a team to the super bowl super bowl yep that's about it oh joe really you know everybody's lived up to the hype, to the best of their abilities, except a few select.

I don't know if Eric Fisher, did Eric Fisher ever make a Pro Bowl? If he did, I think he made one. Sam Bradford. Wait, Eric Fisher? He was a tackle. The Kansas City Chiefs drafted him number one overall. He went number one, and then Luke Jokel went number two to Jacksonville.

He went two, went into two Pro Bowls. Where's Eric Fisher now? He's not... Out of league. Damn. He won a Super Bowl. Remember, he won the Super Bowl. He was the left tackle when the Chiefs won their first Super Bowl.

And remember, they went back and he tore his Achilles like the last play of the championship game. And then they ended up they didn't re-sign him and then that was it. See how they do

you when you get hurt? See how they do you? You're damn as good. Goddamn, goddamn NFL business. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle.

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