Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Caitlin Clark gets drafts, DeVonta Smith gets extended, Puka Nacua gives up McDonald's

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to University of Iowa star Caitlin Clark being selected by the Indiana Fever with the No. 1 overall pick in the WNBA Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles ag...reeing to a three-year, $75 million extension with star WR DeVonta Smith and Los Angeles Rams WR Puka Nacua saying he's removed McDonald's from his diet. 0:00 Introduction04:20 Unc shows off Synopsis Award for Best New Sports Podcast08:30 WNBA Draft talk16:00 Eagles extend WR Devonta Smith21:20 CeeDee Lamb and Justin Jefferson not present at voluntary offseason workouts37:00 Davante Adams says he doesn’t want to get traded 447:00 Puka Nacua says he’s cutting McDonald’s from his diet54:30 Kevin Durant says key to healthy season was avoiding floppers01:04:30 Will Smith makes surprise appearance at Coachella, performs Men in Black #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 thank you guys for joining us for another episode of nightcap I am your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp he's your favorite number 85, route runner extraordinaire, Bengals Ring of Fame honoree, pro bowler, all pro, all the way from Liberty City, at the bottom, damn near the bottom.
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Starting point is 00:03:41 That's best sports podcast. That's the Webby Awards and the link is pinned at the top of the chat and we're in first place. So let's keep it that way. And if I'm not mistaken, I think the voting ends at midnight on April 18th. Also, I would like
Starting point is 00:03:58 to welcome a new addition to the family. We're excited to bring Adrian aboard. He's better known for running Sheldon Sharp's burner account to the team. His story is very inspiring and we're excited to have him on. We reached out to him
Starting point is 00:04:13 and like, bro, you be liking and be posting all that stuff. You want a job? He's like, yeah. I said, okay. So the team reached out and now he's an official member of the team. So Adrian, thank you very much. Shout out to Adrian. What's up, boy?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Ocho, okay. Before we get started. Yeah. Got a little something in the bag. Look at that, Ocho. Boy, what's that? That's the Synopsis Sports Media Awards 2024 new sports show, Nightcap with Unc and Ocho, the volume.
Starting point is 00:04:44 So we got the best new sports show Nightcap with Uncle Nocho the volume. So we got the best new sports show. Wait a minute. No, no, no. Let me take that back. I got the best new sports show because as a matter of fact, I got the trophy in my hand. Where my trophy at? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You jumping the gun. You speeding right now.
Starting point is 00:04:59 We're in a 30 mile hour zone. Right now I'm going 25. Okay. Like Paul Walls say, drive slow, homie. Hold on, hold on. Where my trophy at? I'm trying to stack all my stuff up right behind me. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why they keep sending everything to your house?
Starting point is 00:05:14 Whoa. Hey, first my plaque. I feel threatened. What we doing? I feel threatened. Chat, can someone call 911? I feel threatened. I mean, he's really being confrontational.
Starting point is 00:05:27 He's hostile right now. You can't feel too threatened when you said I can't beat Max Holloway. So you really shouldn't feel threatened if I get kind of hostile right now. I want to understand why they keep sending you all the goodies and all the gifts and the rewards for things that the two of us have accomplished. I'll answer that at a later date and time. But until you calm down, sir, I'm not going to be able to answer any of your questions. Okay, I'm calm. I'm asking you in a nice manner.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I would like to know where my reward is or my trophy. So I can also, I would like to show my kids. I want to show French fry. I want to show, look what daddy did. Look what daddy did look what daddy did right now uh to the people that's in the chat this is the synopsis sports media awards uh nightcap with uncle nocho is the best new sports show uh 2024 and has the volume who's I uh um our collab uh collab partner and so Synopsis Sports Media Awards 2024 New Sports Show Nightcap with Unc and Ocho. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Key words, Unc and Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unc has something to show for the award. Ocho is right here empty handed.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I ain't got nothing over here. Well, at first, your award is coming. Okay, okay. I like that. I like that. Okay, okay. I mean, I like to see wars are like blessings. Right. You know they're coming, you just don't know when. You know what I'm saying? The war
Starting point is 00:06:54 is coming. I like that. But see, the thing is, you don't be all, hey, now Lord, you know I prayed to you yesterday waiting for this blessing to come and it ain't came yet. But you harassing me. Right. But listen, there's one thing about the man upstairs. He sit high and he look low.
Starting point is 00:07:09 My grandma always told me, he don't show up when you want him, but he always on time. Okay. Expect that award sometime in the future. Hey, that's why I love you, baby. That's why I love you. One day you're going to go to the mailbox. It's going to be a good show tonight. You're going to go to the mailbox like, going to be a good show tonight You're going to go to the mailbox like man what's this
Starting point is 00:07:26 And then boom All your stuff Your Funko Yeah send all that Yeah yeah I really need that Yeah Synopsis of war
Starting point is 00:07:41 And listen Many other wars to follow later on in the future listen the whatever wars that we've already won we trying to run it back whatever wars that we haven't won oh you best believe
Starting point is 00:07:58 we coming for we need that we need that we coming because all we're gonna do we're gonna to do, we're going to keep getting better. We're going to keep producing better content. We're going to be informative. We're going to be entertaining. And enlightening. So we coming.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So whatever awards that we won, best believe we looking for a repeat. Like I always say, Ocho, if Pete and Repeat was on the fence, and Pete fell off, who was left? Repeat so that's what we try to do we try to run it back and if I like
Starting point is 00:08:32 I gotta steal that I like that one I gotta steal that I like that one that was a good one so if you got an award in 23 early 24 24 counts of Christmas all them going to nightcap, Hunk and Ocho. In one way or another.
Starting point is 00:08:48 All right, Ocho, let's get right into it. The worst kept secret, probably since Shaq, LeBron, and Tim Duncan came out, who was going to be the number one overall pick in the WNBA draft and the Indiana Fever selected, Caitlin Clark, guard out of University of Iowa. No surprise there. The Sparks chose Stanford on Cameron Brink. Cameron Brink, yep.
Starting point is 00:09:13 She'll stay in California. We'll give the Sparks a two-way player. A prolific scorer, Naismith, a defensive player of the year. The Sparks also needed to replace Nneka Abumake who left for Seattle in pre-agency. Angel Reese went seventh to the Chicago Sky.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So here's the picks. Indiana Fever selected Kaitlyn Clark, number one. The Sparks selected Cameron Brink, number two. Chicago Sky selected Camilla Cardosa, number four. The Sparks also had two top five picks,
Starting point is 00:09:45 Ricky Jackson of Tennessee, the Dallas Wings, J.C. Sheldon, Ohio State, Washington Mystics, selected Aaliyah Edwards, forward out of UConn. Angel Reese was selected seventh out of the Chicago Sky. The Minnesota Lynx made a trade, Alyssa Peely from Utah,
Starting point is 00:10:04 and Dallas Wings' Carla Lett from France. So that was your top ten. No surprise. Really, I don't think there's any surprises, especially the top four. We know Clark was going to be number one. All indications that Brink was going to be two. Cardoso was going to be three. Ricky Jackson was going to be two, Cardoso was going to be three, Ricky Jackson was going to be four.
Starting point is 00:10:25 But the Chicago Sky traded back up to seven to select Angel Reese. And so that's how it played out. Any surprises to you? No, no surprises to me. Honestly, I thought Miss thought Miss Miss Reese. I thought Miss Reese would win earlier. But those that went before all fit very well.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And they were team needs, you know, based on where they went. But I think what I really like is Camila Cardoza and Angel Reese actually going to the same team. Yeah, you go from competing. Now you go to playing together. Yeah, and I think I think that's really dope for them. Outside of that, I'm excited. I'm excited. The funny thing, I'm a little bit more excited for
Starting point is 00:11:09 watching the WNBA coming up this following season as opposed to I am watching NBA. I ain't really watching NBA all season. I've been to two games all year. I've been to that Philly game, that Philly game when the B dropped 70, and I went to that Knicks game not too long ago when Jalen Brunson was out, but I had a chance to sit in the garden.
Starting point is 00:11:26 But I'm more excited to goddamn watch the WNBA, this upcoming season. So this is dope. I think this is something I'm going to get myself into so I can talk a little bit more about it, the way I can talk about soccer, the way I can talk about boxing, and the way I can talk about tennis,
Starting point is 00:11:42 and football for that matter. But I'm excited. Yes, Kaylin Clark going number one overall. She goes, she teams up with last year's number one overall pick, Aaliyah Boston, who's from University of South Carolina. And so now she's going to have better players around her. We know she has a great shot, has great basketball IQ. She can facilitate the basketball because she led the nation in scoring
Starting point is 00:12:05 and she led the nation in assists. Those things translate. So if she's having an off-night shooting, she can make it easier shots for her teammates. You know, her impact on the game is already being felt because 36 of her games are going to be nationally televised.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Never in the history of the WNBA has that ever happened before. That is impact. Butts happened before. That is impact. Butts in seat. That is impact. Look at the Lakers. When they go on the road, there are more teams there to watch LeBron and the Lakers than watch their team. As opposed to the team plan. Same thing with Steph Curry.
Starting point is 00:12:38 That is impact. She's going to have that type of impact. And we see this rise in women's sports and so that's great for all women because there was a time that there was no WNBA and the women had to go overseas so it's nice
Starting point is 00:12:54 to see that sponsors and advertisers and fans alike are starting to get behind these women's sports and we're starting to see because it's something to give the young girls that's growing up something to look forward to. We know our young guys, young men, boys, they have football, they have basketball, they
Starting point is 00:13:13 have soccer. They have so many sports to look forward to. But women is not like that. So for them to have the for the WNBA to have a rise in popularity, it seems like advertising and sponsors are starting to get behind. I think Caitlin Clark is going to be at the forefront of that. them to have the for the WNBA to have a rise in popularity yeah it seems like advertising the sponsors are starting to get behind I think Caitlin Clark is going to be at the forefront of that but this is a great this is a great great group of young ladies Cameron Brink, Camila Cardoza, Ricky Jackson, Jason Sheldon I am so excited and Angel Reed's rounding out going to Chicago
Starting point is 00:13:40 that's great uh I think all things being equal she could have gone to Los Angeles which would have been great, go to New York that's great, but Chicago is not a bad option, not at all that's a big market that's a big market I'm excited for these young ladies, congratulations to all the
Starting point is 00:14:00 women and as I tweeted out earlier today Ocho, this is not the end of your journey a new journey starts now. Just starting. Now, hey, the greatest ladies play here. Show you why.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Show you why now. It's not about what you've done. Hey, everybody at this level accomplished something. Now, you're zero and zero. You've accomplished nothing
Starting point is 00:14:22 in the WNBA. Now go show you why. So I'm excited for all these young ladies congratulations young ladies to all those that that stood behind you moms dad coaches our grandparents brothers and sisters and loved ones alike this is a dream come true but this is not the end of your dream this is only the beginning of it so congratulations to all those ladies and much success. And if I'm not mistaken, I think the first game was, what, May 14th? So less than a month away. Wait, already? Already, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. And the ladies were impeccable. Kayla Clark had on Prada. Cameron Brink had the slit. Nice, like he's walking the red carpet. And you know Angel was going to do it. You know Bayou Barbie was going to come on with it. Yeah, she going to kill it.
Starting point is 00:15:06 She going to kill it every time. Everybody has their own unique look and own unique style and fashion and fashion-forward way of expressing themselves. Yeah. I like it. I do, too. That's one thing I like about the WNBA players. Man, them girls, man, them girls put that shit on now.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Oh, they put it on? They put that shit on. But when it's time to come play, man, I enjoy it. Some very, very, very, very girls put that shit on now. Oh, they, they put it on. They put that shit on, but when it's time to come play, man, I enjoyed some very, very, very, very stylish woman.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Very stylish. They, they were, they were very stylish. They, they put on, but pretty soon it's time to put, hey,
Starting point is 00:15:35 it's time to put that hair up on a ponytail and put them gym shorts on. It's time to put up the couture. It's time to put on some gym shorts and let's go do this. Let's go do this. This is what we came to do. So congratulations young lady. Well deserved.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Well earned. Congratulations to all the people that stood behind them and backed them because this no one gets here alone. And so again, congratulations and I'm extremely happy for each and every one of these young ladies that was drafted. Now it's time for our first segment of the night, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And it's a news cap. The Eagles have extended former Heisman Trophy winner, first-round pick Devontae Smith to a three-year deal, $75 million. Devontae Smith contracts call for-year deal, $75 million. Devontae Smith contracts call for $51 million in guaranteed money. Devontae Smith is the Eagles' third major extension of the offseason. Landon Dixon, four years, $84 million. Jordan Maialata, three years, $66 million. The Eagles now have Devontae Smith, Jalen Hurts, Landon Dixon, and Jordan Maialata, all secured to the year 2029. Devontae Smith has the most receptions, 240,
Starting point is 00:16:51 and receiving yards, 3,178, through the first three seasons in Eagles history. The Eagles appear to have wanted a head start on wide receivers market as they extended Devontae Smith prior to the extension of other notable receivers. Smith was selected 10th overall in the 2021 draft. The notable receivers from the 2020 NFL draft who are still in line for a contract extension have
Starting point is 00:17:12 not received them yet. T. Higgins, C.D. Lamb, Brandon Ayuk, and Justin Jefferson. Smith says, you know what, hey bro, y'all do what y'all do, but I got to do what's in the best interest of my family. And in the best interest of my family,
Starting point is 00:17:28 I'm going to get a head start on this thing. So y'all do what y'all do. I'm going to take this 75, three-year, $75 million, 51 guaranteed. And I'm going to get on up out of here. And the most important thing about it is, is the guarantee. What is guaranteed?
Starting point is 00:17:42 What am I getting? Forget what the numbers look. I know it looks pretty. Three for 75. No, let me see the real numbers. Let me break down what I'm really earning within that timeframe and what is coming to me, come hell or high water if I get hurt, no matter what, it's going to be in my pocket. It's going to be in my pocket. Yeah, for sure. Listen, them three years from to go by so fast, he's going to double up and come right back to the bank. He's going to double up and have that Brink truck
Starting point is 00:18:05 back on up because I don't see Smitty slowing down anytime soon, especially in that offense that he's in. He's going to be productive the next three years. So he's going to see another payday. I like the fact, Ojo,
Starting point is 00:18:21 he's not waiting around to see what others because the worst mistake people can make sometimes is to measure your value by what somebody else got. We see that an awful lot. Well, he got that. Wait, what? That ain't got nothing to do with you. You're not over there.
Starting point is 00:18:37 You're right here. How am I going to tell a man, hey, they got cake over there and I'm in a hardware store. I can only get hammer and nails or a song. That's all I get. That's all I can get over here. That's all I can get in a hardware store. They're in a grocery store.
Starting point is 00:18:54 So you're not where they are. So you can't say, well, they did this. Never measure your worth by what someone else got. And so if you do that, you'll be fine. And so if you do that, you'll be fine. And so he's like,
Starting point is 00:19:06 look, I got to worry about my financial, me. He got a wife, I think he got a wife or a girlfriend, a kid, I think he just had a newborn within the last six months.
Starting point is 00:19:15 And so, if he feels comfortable with it, let that rock. Let that rock. Like you said, hey, get that money, get that money early.
Starting point is 00:19:24 How old is he? 24, 25? He number 25. Let that rock. Like you said, hey, get that money, get that money early. How old is he? 24, 25? He number 25. 25, yes. He number 25.
Starting point is 00:19:32 He go ahead and ball out like he's been balling out. They'll come back and see him again at 28. Oh, yeah. Yeah, most definitely. Real,
Starting point is 00:19:37 real quick. So, congratulations, Smitty. He's one of the first guys that I had on my podcast at Club Shea Shea Shea actually we did it here
Starting point is 00:19:46 in my backyard in the garage and so he had just won the Heisman won all the awards that year so congratulations in order to him yeah yeah and he's very deserving you know what else you know what else you know what Devante nutrition
Starting point is 00:20:02 you know what his diet is what is it McDonald's I just wanted to throw that out there I just wanted to throw that out there for you real quick You know what else? You know what Devontae nutrition, you know what his diet is? What is it? McDonald's. I just wanted to throw that out there. I just wanted to throw that out there for you real quick. I just wanted to have that. Hey, I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I just wanted to throw that out there for you real quick. You see how much Devontae weigh? You see how much I weigh? He about 180, 190. Devontae ain't never seen 180. Devontae, I guarantee you, Devontae can come right now,
Starting point is 00:20:25 look through my keyhole with both eyes. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, Ocho. I guarantee you. Hold on, hold on. Chill, you ain't seen him lately. He been in the weight room. He about 190 right now.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Look at him. I'm telling you, he about 190. Hold on, Ocho. This is what we know because we played long enough. Whatever they list you as, you up under that. Especially with you.
Starting point is 00:20:49 He probably about 165, 163. I'm telling you, he done put on some weight this offseason. You know, he done bulked up. I guarantee you, when you see him this year, you're going to be like,
Starting point is 00:20:56 God damn, where you been working? He about 190. I kid you not. You'll see. Man, that joke was skinny, man. That's all. When I saw him be skinny, the man swallowed. I watched it go all that joke was skinny, man. That's all I want.
Starting point is 00:21:05 That's all I want to be skinny. The man swallow, I watch it go all the way down to his stomach. That's how skinny, I'm just saying, Ocho. That's how skinny the man is. I watch it go all the way down.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I say, well, damn. Hey, come on, man. Don't try to be the only one like that. Nah, he good people. Yeah, he good people. He really good people. Real good dude. Real good dude.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. Anything But Ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What happened with C.D. Lamb, what? Here we go. C.D. Lamb and Justin Jefferson skipped workout-admitted contract talks. The pair of NFL top receivers decided not to show up to voluntary workouts on Monday in the midst of contracts talk.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I don't blame them. Both players are set to hit free agency in 2025 and will attempt to work out a long-term contract in order to stay with the organization. C.D. Lamb will be playing on a fifth-year option worth $18 million. CeeDee's coming off a career year in which he led all NFL players with 135
Starting point is 00:23:11 receptions. He racked up 1,749 yards while finding the end zone 12 times. Jefferson has a base salary of $20 million after the Vikings exercised his fifth- option the 24 year old skipped voluntary workouts in 2023 although he showed up for the team's mandatory minicamp i don't blame
Starting point is 00:23:32 him anything that's voluntary voluntary means it's on my own free volition i decide to come that's what volunteering is i volunteer my service you want me to come? Make it mandatory. I ain't giving you no money back. Just Jefferson and the Vikings nearly reached an agreement in 2023, although the deal fell apart and never was finalized. What you got? Man, them boys, listen.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Them boys ain't playing by their money, man. They ain't playing by their money. And sometimes, you know what? You got to, it's one thing to love the game of what? It's one thing to love the game of football. It's one thing to love it and be passionate about it as a player, but you know what that business
Starting point is 00:24:11 will do to you? They'll use it against you when it's pay time. Oh, absolutely. Listen, they will lose your love for the game of football and use it against you when it's time to get paid because they know, you know what? He loves the game so much, he gonna come in anyway. He gonna show the game so much. He's going to come in. He's going to come in anyway.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Oh, he's going to show up to camp anyway. He's going to show up to camp. So that, that notion, you got to be careful. You got to understand. You got to play the game,
Starting point is 00:24:35 especially when it comes to this business. It's one thing to love and be passionate about the game and love your team and be loyal to your teammates and all this. There's no, I am a team player. All that shit sound good until it's time for you to get paid and the business shows you exactly how dirty and ugly you can get. There's no reason CeeDee Lamb should not be paid at this point because the resume speaks for itself.
Starting point is 00:24:57 There's no reason Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, I'm sure it takes time. You know, you got to do the numbers and all that stuff. You got to do the books. There's a lot that goes into it. But you already know these individuals are coming up. You already knew you had... Budget.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Voluntary. You already knew you had voluntary camp coming up. You would want your best players in camp at that time. You would want them in time. So why even play this game? You did the same goddamn shit in Dallas. You did the same shit with Goddamn Ezekiel Elliott. You had Zeke out there on the beach in Cabo, wherever he was at, working out.
Starting point is 00:25:33 He was training, keeping himself. Why even play this game? And then they come in the camp. You know how different it is. You could train 100 times a day away from football. But when you're in that structured environment, it's completely different. It's completely different. You think
Starting point is 00:25:50 you're in shape working by yourself until you get out there with 11-on-11 and 7-on-7 and you're getting pushed around and moved around. It's a little bit different. You get in shape by playing football. That's how you get in football shape. Guys play basketball, they do open runs because you get in shape by playing football. That's how you get in football shape.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Period. Guys play basketball, they do open runs. Yeah. Because you get in shape playing basketball. Yeah. And so that's what you need to do. But I don't have a problem with the guys. Look, it's early.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Now, once training camp roll around and they're not in camp, now we're going to have something to really talk about, Ocho. That's even worse, though. Why do teams play this game? Why? Why not allow him to be in camp
Starting point is 00:26:31 happy, for one, like you do your quarterbacks. You take care of your quarterbacks to make sure they're happy and have nothing going on in their head mentally, so they're clear. They have a clear mind, ready to go in. But when it comes to the skill position, they always got to fight tooth and nail. You got to drag them through the mud,
Starting point is 00:26:47 no matter how good they are. You wait to the last minute. I don't know what point you're trying to prove. Okay, we're going to take care of that. Two minutes before camp starts. Two minutes before camp starts, he'll go cross the ticker. Oh, so-and-so finally signed.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Oh, Joe. Oh, man. The Cowboys won the Super Bowl. Emmitt Smith contract, he won and negotiated. He missed the first two games of 93. Emmitt Smith is the all-time leading rusher. And they made him hold out two games. They lost both of those games, and Jerry came to his senses and got him in.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah. Yes. So, from an owner's perspective, I know it's hard for us to think like owners. I think from that business business mindset on the other side of the spectrum. What is it that they're doing? What purpose are they as owners? Do they do in withholding, giving the contract until the last minute? Or just forcing you? The word, you remember last week, Ocho, I asked you to spell the word precedent? Right. They don't want to set a precedent. They don't want a situation where I ask, okay, the team just gave in.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Let's just say CD wants $35 million. A year. Team probably offering $25 million. Oh, no. No, don't lowball him. Okay, but go ahead that's a okay now okay you come down i come up you come down how soon do we meet right that's how they're trying to look at it the problem that they're running into is that you got that beast over on the other side of the ball, Michael. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You see what Miles Garrett got? Yeah. You see what Joey Bosa got? You see what T.J. Watt got? Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. And that was two and three years ago. Inflation.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah. What you could buy, what you could get with a hundred million guarantee you can't get today. Michael said, give me my money. Yeah, you're right. Because here's the thing. Oh,
Starting point is 00:28:52 Joe, this is a ball of water. Yeah, that's all it is. Now, some places that ball of water, you can get it for a dollar someplace. You can get it for $2.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Right. Go to the ballpark, it might cost you $10. The value of the water is determined by where you are. You see, sometimes, Ocho, you have to look at it. If my value isn't right here, I might be in the wrong place. I might need to go somewhere else where my value is a little higher. Now that's a bottle of water. I don't care what they say. It could have been in the old day, could have packaged it in Switzerland or Antarctica or the Ozarks.
Starting point is 00:29:40 But at the end of the day, it quenches your thirst. And some of it costs you a dollar some of it costs you five dollars some of it might cost you twenty the only difference is where you purchase it from determines the value of it where you're playing
Starting point is 00:29:57 determines the value so maybe you might hey, Ocho, because guess what if I take this watch, I might take it to the pawn shop. Pawn shop might say, man, I know what it's worth, but you coming in here, so obviously you need the money. I ain't going to give you what it's worth. I might give you $5,000.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Your homie on the street said, man, I like that. I ain't never seen that. I might give you $10,000. You might take it to the auction. They're like, well, dang, Rolex only produced 100 of these. This was in great shape. I think it might be worth X. You see?
Starting point is 00:30:37 It's the same watch. Three different people valued it differently. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I like that. Okay. You don't value it't value also in a relationship it's the same yeah she he might not value you you might have to leave right and where somebody else values you what you do more than what you're currently being valued right here.
Starting point is 00:31:07 But you can't be afraid to leave. I like that. You can't be afraid to leave. You can't, Ocho. A lot of times people are afraid. They're afraid of the unknown. See, this is why people are afraid of the dark and not the day. Because I can't see that well at night.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Something might be lurking behind that door. The boogeyman might be out there. See, that's the difference between, that's what faith is. You know what? People need to hear what you're saying right now. Especially with that faith and that afraid to leave because of the value and whoever you, you might be in a situation where you're not feeling valued or you're not valued in general.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Ladies, if you listen, fellas, if you got somebody you're dealing with, it's not easy. It's not easy. I know it's not easy, but still,
Starting point is 00:31:58 just to put a little bug in your ear, just to put a little bug in your ear, you saying this tonight for a reason. It's going to hit somebody. Yeah reason you saying this tonight for a reason it's it's gonna hit somebody yeah you saying it tonight for a reason this came up tonight for a reason but somebody that's listening i'm telling you because you're in a situation where the person you went is not valuing you and whatever it is you bring to the table it's a very it's a situation no joe where my trainer thought it's the bible teaches us it says god says have faith see faith is is believing with not knowing god said if you if you believe if you say you got to believe first and i'll show you what is man the opposite man say show me and i'll show you. What is man? The opposite. Man say, show me and I'll believe you. Right. And so most people, you need
Starting point is 00:32:48 to show it to them before they believe it. Right. Right. But faith is the is taking that leap of faith is the unknown. But believing. Someone asked me, said, well, Shannon, when your situation ended at uh uh understood undisputed
Starting point is 00:33:08 how did you know i say i don't gamble anymore i said but if i go to if i go to vegas and i play roulette i'm betting on black i'm gonna bet on me come on now you see the problem that people, the people underestimate me because they, they, they forget where I came from. Yeah. This is the easiest situation that I've ever had to leave. Right. Do you understand where my family came from and how my brother and I got it out of the mud? Literally.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Right. So you mean to tell me I can't? Remember, what did I tell you? If I'd done it before, I can do it again. Oh, yeah, most definitely. Every time. Barney Porter used to tell my brother and I, he said, boy, anytime I take y'all somewhere,
Starting point is 00:33:57 you should always be able to get back. If I take you somewhere, he would always tell me and my brother, if I take you somewhere one time, you should get back. Well, hell, I was on TV before doing what I did.
Starting point is 00:34:12 You mean to tell me I couldn't get back on TV and do it again? If I got an opportunity, you mean to tell me that if I, if I, if I did this with club, Shay, Shay, you mean to tell me I couldn't get with a host,
Starting point is 00:34:24 a co-host and and create Nightcap? You lying to me. Y'all nothing to tell me what I can't do. Just tell me it hadn't been done yet. Because sometimes people try to force their beliefs off on you. Just because you can't do it, that don't mean I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I can't. Listen, everything is possible. Everything is possible. You put your mind to it. You put your mind to it. You got your little discipline. You put your mind to it. Yes!
Starting point is 00:34:52 And you're willing to execute a plan to get it done. Everything and anything is possible. And you know why I knew I could do it, Ocho? Because think about how hard I worked for the Broncos, how hard I worked for the Ravens, how hard I work for the Ravens, how hard I work for CBS and Fox. So you mean to tell me I'm going to deny myself vacation and everything for them,
Starting point is 00:35:13 but I can't do it for my own? I can't do it for Club Shea Shea? I can't do it for nightcap? That's mine? Yeah. And that's what people don't understand. People will work themselves to the bone on somebody else's job and will give less than half the effort for their own. And then wonder why. I don't know why. Just think about if you had worked as hard as you did on Mr.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Charlie's job as you did for 10, 15 years as you when you got your own. Well, I don't feel like going to work today, so I ain't got to go to work today. See? No. I'm going to show up coming hell of hot water. I'm going to have to be gravely ill not for me to show up. Because
Starting point is 00:35:57 guess what? There were some times I didn't feel like taking my ass to work, but I went and got on that man clock. I can get on my clock. Yeah. That's the approach you have to have, people. That's the mindset that you have to have.
Starting point is 00:36:15 If you can work that hard for somebody else, you should be damn willing to work that hard for your damn self. Yeah. You got to want it. Can't nobody want it for you. Can't nobody want it for you. Nah. And that's the number one thing I tell my kids.
Starting point is 00:36:30 I can't want something for you more than you want it for yourself. Right. Because at the end of the day, oh yeah, daddy pushing me, daddy pushing me. And then as soon as daddy turned around, you were like,
Starting point is 00:36:36 nah, I don't really want to do that. Yeah. And I always told him, you know, hey, do what you want. Because I've lived that. My dream,
Starting point is 00:36:42 my whole dream was to get great out of this environment. Now, if that's that's not your dream they say you're not upset your son didn't play football hell no that was my dream that wasn't his yeah yeah the last thing I wanted for my kids to be was 30 years old and say well daddy I only did this because of you no hell you didn't you chose that you chose that major because that's what you wanted to do you chose that job because that's what you want to do Shannon You chose that job because that's what you want to do. Shannon did what he wanted to do. Shannon didn't push you in any direction. Once you chose the direction, I said, okay, because this is what you're going to have to do.
Starting point is 00:37:16 So no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't, I didn't. Yeah. Did I push my kids? Yes. Be better. Be humble. But not just, oh, son oh son you gotta play football now you
Starting point is 00:37:27 he don't want to play now you don't want okay fine that was my dream right i don't force my dreams off on my kids the hard work yes absolutely absolutely i'll make sure you're gonna work hard now i said hey at the sharp the Sharp household, it only got it only got one room for one lazy mofo, I'm in I'm the only lazy mofo that can lay here so
Starting point is 00:37:55 Devontae Adams rejects trade chatter, if I wanted to be gone, I'd be gone, for more than a year, trade rumors surrounding Devontae Adams have circulated based on multiple factors, including coaching change. And he's 31 years of age, seeking to play for a clear contender. Speaking to Sunday at his youth football camp in Las Vegas, Adams told reporters he had no desire to be traded. If I wanted to be gone, I would be gone by now.
Starting point is 00:38:21 This is where I want to be. I like, yeah, I mean, listen, sometimes you don't know when something is real, but even at 31, Devontae, to me, still the most prolific elite route runner in the NFL now. He is highly inspiring, highly sought after if he was a secret,
Starting point is 00:38:42 you know, to want to be traded. Some contenders, some thoughts on places that he would he could go and and fill that role very good buffalo bills being one of them you know buffalo bills being one of them hey getting that saying getting that same type of monster player that stefan diggs was that is an elite route runner that you can put in any position, can play from the outside, can play from the inside. He can beat man. He can beat zone. He can do it all. He can do it all.
Starting point is 00:39:13 He like, hey, he like, look, he built a nice home. He got a wife, a couple of kids, no state income tax in Nevada. Buffalo ain't it, dog. Huh? Buffalo ain't it, dog. Huh? Buffalo ain't it? No. I don't think he wants to move. I don't think
Starting point is 00:39:29 he, you know what, after playing. Listen to the words he said, man. He said a contender. That's what speculation said. He said if I want to be somewhere else, I would. I thought he said, okay, my bad, my bad. Go ahead, go ahead. After spending your time in Cincinnati,
Starting point is 00:39:46 you ain't really trying to go back. You ain't trying to live in no cold weather, are you? No, I like the cold. There ain't nothing wrong with that now. I like that. I'm in Vegas. I'm in a controlled environment. Eight games a year is going to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Maybe nine games. So this might be the year the AFC have nine home games. Right. Perfect weather. Okay. Yeah, I'm sure he would love to play with a quarterback like a Roger hell he take Derek Carr all over again because hell he would have 50 on the yard that was first team off road with Derek Carr yeah he just doesn't like the
Starting point is 00:40:16 quarterback carousel quarterback for four games another quarterback another quarterback he doesn't like that he He likes certainty. Talk about certainty? Who's the quarterback right now for the Raiders? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Aiden O'Connell is the quarterback right now. It's going to be interesting. He and Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Don't disrespect him, but I'm just saying. I would like... I love Devontae to death, but I'm just saying, if you like, I love Devontae to death, but I'm just saying, if you could go to a contender, it would behoove you to do so because I want to see you get back to where I know you can still play
Starting point is 00:40:55 and I want the numbers to show. I want the numbers to show that so people can stop talking this, you know what, gibberish about, oh, I ain't even going to go there. I ain't even going to bring it. I even gonna bring it I'm not gonna give a table legs and bring that up but well you know Gardner Minshew is also
Starting point is 00:41:10 the backup they signed him I mean hey while you're bull driving he got Michael Pittman Juman 100 plus something catching 12-13 on the yard so if he can get gone and that's no disrespect to Pittman Jr., I play – but I think Devontae might be – but, you know, hey,
Starting point is 00:41:32 different city, different situation. I think the thing is, I mean, Ocho, he's – like I said, he a family man. He got kids. He ain't trying to really uproot his family at 31. And – but here's the thing, Ocho, and sometimes, you know, we all want, I want guys to win as much as anybody, but ain't no guarantee.
Starting point is 00:41:55 That's the thing that we love about sports. Ain't no guarantees. Because what happens, he get there, then the quarterback go down halfway through the season. Sometimes there's certain examples you got to take. Sometimes you're like, damn. I mean, Brady was always helping. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:42:13 In 20 years, with the exception of one year, so 22, Brady came in, so for 22, 23 years, one season, you had to worry about Brady not being up on the center. But every Sunday, every Monday, every Thursday, you trotted out there for 20 plus seasons.
Starting point is 00:42:29 You know 12 if you was in New England or Tampa, 12 was going to be on the center. And if he's on the center, I got an 85% chance of winning. Every time. Everybody don't get that old joke.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Damn, man. Just think about that. Damn. Mm-hmm. So at the end of the day, what's important to Devontae? Because everybody doesn't view championships as the end-all, be-all. Now, us, we've done that. Well, you a bum.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I don't believe guys are bum if you don't win a championship. I just believe, and I've been on record and I still believe this. I believe you can be great without a ring. But when we want us to add EST to it,
Starting point is 00:43:17 you got to have that. And that's not to diminish anybody that doesn't have that. Because someone asked me, said, well, Shannon, which would you rather have, a Super Bowl ring or a Hall of Fame ring? I said, well, I ain't glad I got to make that decision.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Yeah. I'm sitting pretty where I am. Well, hold on. I got a ring, too. And I got a jacket. You about to have a wedding band. Yeah, I got my own jacket. I got one- too. And I got a jacket. You about to have a wedding band. Yeah, I got, yeah, band. I got my own jacket.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I got one-on-one. Yeah. Jeez. But so that, you know, people like, oh, he wasn't. No, no. Are you trying to tell me because Dan Marino didn't win a Super Bowl ring, he wasn't one of the great quarterbacks? But the reason why they don't put him
Starting point is 00:44:05 as the great Tis is because you got Brady and you got Montana and you got Mahomes and you got Manning and you got Elway with those rings. And Bradshaw. So you got guys with rings and multiples. But Marina,
Starting point is 00:44:22 but Dano, I played in Dano's era Sometimes it's unfair How We take A team accomplishment And It's not
Starting point is 00:44:40 How do I say it the right way Super Bowl ring A ring It's's a team accomplishment. So sometimes it's out of individual players' control. Just so happened maybe you're part of that team that happens to go. I don't know. It's weird how that works and how it's looked upon where you're seen in a different light as an individual based on a team accomplishment.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah. When it took a whole group to get it as opposed to you as an individual, but you don't put – sometimes when we talk about the greatest quarterbacks, they don't put Dan Marino in it because of a team accomplishment that his team wasn't able to achieve, but other quarterbacks were. I don't know if i said it the right way yeah but that's just well that's just the way we do it now yeah that's just the way that's rings you know we had that debate um that rings i mean in order
Starting point is 00:45:40 to be in the discussion i think you have to have at least one. Now, it's not the end-all, be-all. Right, right, right. But I think in order to be considered great-est, you need a championship. Because that's why you play. There's a reason why. Name a sport that doesn't have an end-of-the-year championship. Name the sport. Be it ultimate frisbee, be it what uh uh what that is cornhole they got tag
Starting point is 00:46:07 they got all kind of big oh joe you know right i watched on esp and they got pillow fight now yeah yeah they got pillow fight i was a champ because i used to beat the brace yeah you know they got pillow fighting and but at the end of the year, what did they have? A thing called a championship. So if it didn't matter, they wouldn't have those, Ocho. Football, Super Bowl, World Series, NBA Finals, the Olympics. What do they say? The Finals.
Starting point is 00:46:37 They have gold, silver, bronze. Bronze. There's a reason. Look at Osafo Powell have all those fast times and got no goals to show for it. So how can I say he the greatest
Starting point is 00:46:53 when he ain't got no goals? Right. If Usain Bolt, nobody would consider Usain Bolt the greatest sprinter without those gold medals. You gotta have them. There've been a lot of great sprinters. There've been a lot of guys. There've been guys that hold the world, had the world
Starting point is 00:47:11 record that didn't have gold medals. We got to remember those are individual accolades though. They're in control of their destiny. Now when we talk about basketball or we talk about football, those are team achievements. But then when it comes to talking about it it it's talked about in an individual manner like it's just the quarterback that got it done when it it was it took a team effort it still took that same team to get you
Starting point is 00:47:33 that mvp it was a team did he not play so did he not play on the team to get that mvp or was he just playing by himself and then once he got to the finals, we needed a team. Right. You're right. You're right. That's a good combo. That's a real good combo. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined
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Starting point is 00:48:55 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Uh, Puka, my guy on the team, the winning team, Team Shark, that beat the brakes off of Stephen A. Smith in the Celebrity All-Star Basketball game. Puka Nakua say he's working out with Cooper Cupp and cutting out McDonald's from his diet. Hell nah! After setting an NFL rookie record, hauling in 105 receptions, 1,486 yards, Puka revealed that he's been training
Starting point is 00:49:33 with teammate Cooper Cupp. His conditioning days were some of the tougher ones. The 22-year-old admitted Cupp was ready to get right before the Super Bowl. He's already starting integration to get ready to work out. A right before the super bowl he's already starting integration to get ready to work out a lot of mobility stuff the first part then continue to stay explosive a lot of top end speed we're working on the first i came back i think i threw up every day of the week it was i he wasn't a fan of that because he was he was on his lawn puka also
Starting point is 00:50:01 revealed that he's changing his diet during the season cutting cutting back on some of the fast foods. I think Cooper would definitely not advise me to eat McDonald's as much as I did during the season. He wasn't a fan of that. Ha ha! I see. This is what's wrong. This is what's wrong with us at times. We allow
Starting point is 00:50:20 others to influence us. We allow others to get in the way. And it's the same thing. Tiger, when he was playing extremely well, you see what he did off the field, right? Yeah. Stay with me real quick. You see what he did off the field. And then once that diminished, it seemed like everything else diminished with it.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Now, Puka Nakua, I need you to pay attention. Look at the season you had last year. Yeah. Understand your nutrition and your intake and what you consume throughout the entirety of the season and the numbers you put up.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Now you go around and you come back the following season trying to change up the whole scenario and change up what you did, which was working. If it ain't broke,
Starting point is 00:51:02 there's no need to fix it. Regardless of what Cooper Cupp says or might say or advise you, do what works for you. Do what works for your body. Okay, we'll try it out then. He said, I'm going to try it out. I'm going to try to go with no fast food. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't try it. If you had a season like that, eating the way you do, stay within your What if I could have a better season? No, you wouldn't have a better season. How you know? Because you wouldn't have. How you know?
Starting point is 00:51:33 Because what you eat don't make or break you. Yeah, it does. Made it time. Made it time. I ain't never get tired. No, I don't. No, I don't. There you go, Cooper. Gotta be willing to switch it up. No, I don't. No, I don't. No, I don't. No, I don't. There you go, Cooper. Got to be willing to switch it up. No, no, you don't.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And you know what? If his numbers are not reflective of what they were last year, it's because of the goddamn nutrition. First of all, he might have a better season, but not have the numbers that he had. I ain't trying to hear that. I ain't trying to hear all that. So numbers is the key.
Starting point is 00:52:07 So that's what you're telling me. When it's time to get paid, they're going to use the numbers. Yes, numbers is the key. Thank you. Ain't that what you always say? He's going to get paid, don't you? When it's time to get paid, they're going to look at the numbers. And when you was eating McDonald's,
Starting point is 00:52:22 the numbers was astronomical. He said, I cut it out. Is that a word? Was that a word? Yeah, astronomical. Okay, I'm just making sure it was a word. I made that shit up on the fly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:35 He said, I ain't eating that McDonald's like that no more. No, no. He said he's not going to eat as much of it, but he's still going to eat it. No, he said he's not going to eat as much fast food, yeah. Oh, he's still going to eat it, though. I'm going to talk as much of it. He's not going to eat as much fast food. Yeah. Oh, he's still going to eat it, though. I'm going to talk to him. Pookie, hell, Pookie might be watching. I'm going to tweet him.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Don't change no goddamn diet because what Cooper got. Hell, no. I made that look. I ate a certain way. I mean, to each his own. Man. But there's a reason why they hired most of these Except you guys
Starting point is 00:53:06 Y'all cheap ass Most people hire these nutritionists Hire these nutritionists To come in and cook Yeah man Listen man Man I ain't trying to hear that
Starting point is 00:53:15 I ain't trying to hear that Y'all ain't got no Y'all ain't got no Y'all Listen All that nutrition And all that stuff Man ain't nothing but a money grab man
Starting point is 00:53:22 That shit Man I ain't trying to hear that man All the Everybody got all these nutritionists And everybody still getting hurt And dropping like flies Nutrition and all that stuff, man, ain't nothing but a money grab, man. Man, I ain't trying to hear that, man. Everybody got all these nutritionists and everybody still getting hurt and dropping like flies. The goddamn injury, non-contact injury is up 47%. Listen, you got all these boys eating like goddamn rabbits, playing a goddamn barbaric sport, and wonder why your body goddamn breaking down. Ain't nobody touching you. You ain't got to eat all that foo-foo stuff, down and ain't nobody touching. You ain't gotta eat
Starting point is 00:53:45 all that foo-foo stuff, but you ain't gotta eat all that fast food. Listen, what you do need to do is you need to eat stuff. You need to build a callus up. I keep saying it over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Stop eating like a goddamn jackrabbit and you play a goddamn sport where you run into each other at 30 miles an hour and you... You know what? Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Ain't nobody gonna listen to me. Y'all keep... Y'all keep, listen, y'all keep eating green. There you go. That's what you're doing. Hey, keep eating your green stuff. Keep eating all that healthy stuff and wonder why your body and y'all keep getting hurt.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Keep eating it. Watch what happens. And nothing but a money grab. That's all it is. Oh, you got to eat this and you got to eat this, right? And it can help with performance. It can help with explosion and all this other stuff. And you're pulling this and you got to eat this, right? And it help with performance. It help with explosion
Starting point is 00:54:25 and all this other stuff. And you're pulling this and you're pulling that. You can't run. You can't explode. Man, please, don't get me started. I'm hot.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Now I'm mad. What you mad at? What you upset about? Because, I mean, I'm just, they allow all these new, all this new stuff and technology and food and all this green and all this.
Starting point is 00:54:47 This is healthy. You ain't playing Nintendo 64. Why you ain't playing Nintendo 64? What was wrong with Nintendo 64? Why you got all them gaming apparatuses? Why you got that chair? Why you got all those monitors? If you so against advancement.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Where's the advancement? If everybody's going backwards, everybody getting hurt. Everybody don't get hurt. Where's the advancement? Injuries are up. I believe the injuries are up because guys aren't practicing. No, no, no, no, no. Don't try that.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Stop trying to say it's because we need practice. So you mean to tell me guys don't do no hitting and just go out there on Sundays? They hit on Wednesdays. They don't hit nothing. Oh, I can't. I ain't going to put no practice. You only get, what, 13 padded practices a season? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Is that? Hold on. So you're saying the reason they're getting hurt is because they're not hitting? I tell you, you're not going to blame them eating like, eating like, uh, No, I think so. Look, it might be a combination. But here's the thing Ocho, it might, it might be a combination. It might be not hitting, it might be over training.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Ocho, this guy, he said Cooper Cup was ready to start training after the Super Bowl, before the Super Bowl. The season just ended. You got to give your body some recoverability. I don't like it. Eat what you want. Understand what works for you. Understand your body. Injuries are up
Starting point is 00:56:19 and I know why injuries are up. It's because the bullshit they putting in our system. That's it. I have nothing else to say. You got to find food. But anyway, Kevin Durant said the key to healthy season was avoiding floppers and crash dummies.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Tonight, Kevin Durant was included in what are reported 11 players projected to lead U.S. basketball into the 2024 Paris Summer Olympics. The Team USA is finalizing 11 of its 12-man roster. Kurt Roge,
Starting point is 00:56:46 LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Joel Embiid, Jason Tatum, Devin Booker, Holiday, Anthony Davis,
Starting point is 00:56:52 Anthony Edwards, Bam Adebayo, Tyrese Halliburton. They have room for one more. That inclusion was anything but a surprise, but KD is coming off a strong season in which he, he also played in 78 of 82 games for Phoenix. With the backdrop, KD
Starting point is 00:57:06 spoke to the Arizona Republic and delivered some unbelievable quotes to help lead to durability. No players flopped into my legs this year. Last two years, I had a teammate flopped into me and an opponent flopped into me two straight years and caused me MCL injuries.
Starting point is 00:57:22 If it wasn't for that, I probably would be out there the same amount of games, but I'm glad nobody flopped. Just stay away from crash dummies, you know. These dudes who try to sell calls don't mind hurting people by diving on the floor and trying to sell a call. I know who those guys are. I try to stay away from them.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Like KD calling out Team Mason and some of the other guys that flopped into his knees because that caused LeBron James. LeBron James, one year, I believe, was having an MVP season. Yeah. And I think the guy was, I hate to mention your name, Solomon Hill. All of a sudden, he's diving on the floor like he tried to make the team and go right to LeBron's and end up messing up his ankle or his knee?
Starting point is 00:57:58 Ankle. End up messing up his ankle. Yeah. And. Damn. I mean, you're surprised. Think about how much they jump. And more guys don't come down
Starting point is 00:58:13 on somebody's ankle. Yeah. Think about, I mean, I get it. It's just hard. And I understand, you know, some guys, that's how they made it into the league, diving.
Starting point is 00:58:22 But going at a ball, like you said, it's not like KD has the most sturdiest foundation. The dude's seven foot tall. So you know what I'm saying, Ocho? You know, just a little tweak. Mm-hmm. Oh, man. Damn. So what, you
Starting point is 00:58:39 okay with him? Yeah, but KD, yeah, yeah. KD, I mean, KD cool. You know, I talk to him. He's not one of them healthy eaters either. He ain't one of them healthy eaters. That's my dog. I done been to five guys with Kevin.
Starting point is 00:58:53 I done been to five guys with Durant down here in Miami. No, that one five guy. It's a little burger spot. So I know he flipped back and forth, you know, between eating what's right, then eating, and he got a combination of both, which is why he had to- You see how scared Kevin Durant is?
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah, but that's his frame. His frame is just like that. There's nothing you can do. There's nothing you can do to that. Kevin Durant, I guarantee you, it could be raining downpour. Kevin Durant staying on the clothesline and not get wet. I'm just telling you what it is, Ocho. I'm telling you now.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Saw it myself. Saw it. I mean, some guys just have that frame no matter what they eat, Ocho. I mean, look, we've all had teammates. I had teammates. They needed to go out on Friday night.
Starting point is 00:59:47 They were going to get drunk. Right. Hey, man, come on. Hey, Sharp, look. Shut up. I play better. All right. As long as you do you.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Hey, some guys ate what they wanted. I wasn't that guy. In my mind, I had convinced myself, Ocho, that if I ate a certain way, I would perform better. The mind is a magnificent thing. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:00:15 That's how you became you. Because you believe you was better than everybody else. That might have not been the case. But you couldn't tell Ocho that he wasn't. Oh no. See? Oh no. Hold on, I'm going to go out there and show you.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I'm going to talk it and I'm going to walk it and I'm going to back it up. Everything, every word. Huh? Stop playing with me now. You know what it is. I'm coming to the party. Uninvited. Uninvited.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I'm there. Front door. Hello. I'm here. We finna have a time. I'm there. Front door. Hello. I'm here. We finna have a time. Yeah, you ain't getting nothing today. I bet I'll leave with more catches than I had coming into the game. What you want to bet on that, Big Mouth?
Starting point is 01:00:58 It was some fun days. Man, please, though, Chuck. Hey, don't get me hyped in here, man. Don't get me hyped. Don't get me hyped, man. I don't me don't get me hyped man i don't know why you talking first of all why are you talking you on special teams you're not gonna even see me on the field yeah when you see me i'm running off the field or running on or you running on and i'm we never go why are you talking you don't have to guard me you're doing all that talking yeah all of them are some fun days you know what it's always like? It's like the dude,
Starting point is 01:01:26 you're not driving the car. You're in the backseat or you're in the passenger seat and you're trying to holler. It ain't even your car. First of all, if you're in the backseat, you definitely should be trying to holler. Right. Ain't nobody hollering nobody in the backseat. None. You don't like that?
Starting point is 01:01:41 You ain't never did that? Oh, me? I did man hey early dip Ocho I was in the back you know me and some of our teammates we rookies we stopped hey we saw this girl hey hey you know back then what's up Ocho
Starting point is 01:01:58 check this out check this out Red hey hey hey I was like hey throw some meat off in that car you know what I'm saying you gotta Hey, hey, hey, hey. I was like, hey, throw some meat off in that car. You know, you got to. So, you know, back then, Ocho, you could flag women down. They would stop. You ain't flagging. Ain't no woman stopping for you.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Now you flag them down. You're going to call the police on your ass. OK, yeah, yeah. Real quick. Real quick. Yeah, he's still following me. He's still following me. Them blue lights going to be on your ass.
Starting point is 01:02:23 But anyway, I was in the back seat. Man. And so, you know, I was just going to chill until this one stepped out. Man, dude tried to get out. Man, I pushed that seat forward so quick. So you can get out there first? And pinned him against the steering wheel. I beat it to a point.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Man, I was over that thing like Peppermint Pugh. You know how Peppermint P Pew would fly, would glow back there? I would be happy. Yeah, that's all. She was fine, huh? Huh? Why she? Damn.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Let that one get away, huh? Oh, Joe. See that? Nah,, huh? Ocho. See that? Nah, let me tell you what. It wasn't nothing I could do. Ocho. Hey. She had just...
Starting point is 01:03:14 The disappointment in the way you said, let me tell you. Ocho, she had just took the army test two weeks earlier. She was going to the military. Oh, no. You got to find her, though, Uncle. You got to find her. She might be.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Don't think I didn't. You know, it's a two-year lapse, but I'm tracking her down. You're tracking her down, huh? Did I? Okay. Okay, okay, okay. It just't happen she was in hawaii when your boy was going to the promo i had to make it hey once i found out she was in hawaii yeah i went i went crazy on him yeah
Starting point is 01:03:59 and that man wasn't a guy in the shop he bad shop didn't get across that water. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I like it. Hey, that A. And she was still stacked up like dirty laundry in the dorm room. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:13 What? She what? Y'all, you know what? Y'all still in contact? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You let it go by the wayside, huh? You know time. You know how time is.
Starting point is 01:04:24 You know how time. Yeah, that time is. You know how time. Yeah, that's a good story. Time ain't our friend. Yeah. Time ain't our friend. But you know, back then, Ocho, you know, you could wave somebody down. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Young ladies, I ain't mad at you to pull it over now. I wouldn't even attempt to flag somebody down now. Hey, you just, hey, you just choked that one up. Say, that's one that got away. But, oh, yeah, man. Woo, woo. Boy, those good old days, Ocho. Those good old days.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I ain't. I ain't. Days old, boy. Listen, my jersey hanging in the rafters, man. Yeah, man. I miss those times, man. The stuff that being some of the homies used to do. Hey, I got stories.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Listen, I got stories for Dave. We'll save it for another day after. I got to make sure I'm able to tell those stories so there's no like, oh, you know. You know. Yeah, yeah. Listen, let me take my glasses off. Unk, boy, some good you know, you know. You know. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about, listen, let me take my glass off. Unk, boy, some good ones, boy.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Yeah, I can imagine. I can imagine. Boy. Yeah, we are, hey, Ocho, I didn't have very many fumbles on the field, but I done fumbled a lot of them off the field. Yeah. Yeah, but, hey, hit my, hey, fumble-itis. Oh, some good days, boy Man, I miss those days
Starting point is 01:05:50 I miss those days, man Look at Ocho, what a Man, I don't miss him I don't miss him It's cool to reflect on him at times Ocho, you know sometimes How you sitting alone And you just be thinking
Starting point is 01:06:02 You like, damn Yeah Yeah Oh, you just be thinking, you're like, damn. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you say, oh, well. Hey, those days ain't never coming back again. And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that on Choke.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Once it's gone, it's gone. And you know, you got some people, as you get older, they try to relive it. Oh, no, no, no. You can't do that no love once it's gone once it's gone it's gone leave it leave it for the young folk love is like an eclair yeah once it goes cold it can't be reheated you gotta throw that away everything everything ain't meant to be reheated though joe now i know we like leftovers yeah and And sometimes the leftovers taste better than the original meal.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Mm-hmm. But sometimes, you say, you know, yeah, I don't have enough of that. You're going to throw it in the trash. Go on and throw it in the trash, Ocho, let it go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Sometimes you got to let the hair go with the hide. You just got to, Ocho. You just got to. Mm-hmm. But hey. Damn. Damn, Ocho. Like I say, we're're gonna say the story because i got i got i got a funny story to tell man i can't believe my man my homie did this to me man i was like oh man yeah we're gonna hold on we're gonna hold on to it check this out will smith joined jay balvin at coachella uh for men in black performance. Will Smith made a surprise appearance on stage with J Balvin
Starting point is 01:07:25 Sunday night dressed in a full Men in Black suit and sunglasses performing the title track to the 1997 film Men in Black. Here it comes. We know what it is. It was great to see Will up there. He looks like he's having fun.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I'm glad to see that he's bounced back he seems to be getting his footing back we all know what happened a couple years ago we don't need to relive that but I am glad to see Will Smith getting back out there I think people forgot that Will Smith was
Starting point is 01:07:58 a bonafide rapper turned into a box office first TV star with a Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and then you know box office, a first TV star with Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Yeah. And then, you know, box office, you know, Men in Black
Starting point is 01:08:11 and some of the biggest, some of the biggest movies that Hollywood has ever produced, Will Smith starred in it. So I'm glad to see him getting back out there. Yeah, most definitely. It's really good to see Will back.
Starting point is 01:08:22 He was in good spirits when I saw him. I think maybe it was last month, maybe a month before last. I saw him at the Inter-Miami match. I went to watch Messi play. I had a chance to sit down and talk with Will Smith for a little bit. He was with Dave Gretman and some of his other people. So that was pretty cool. He was in good spirits then. I'd seen him in 2010. Came by the trailer when I was on Dancing with the Stars. I was on Dancing with the Stars and we talked for a little bit. He's a good dude, man. A good dude. I wish more people, I wish the masses were able to know who he is outside of what you see on videos or on
Starting point is 01:08:56 camera or that's said and stories that are written about him. That's what he is. Real good dude. Ocho, now it's time for Nightcap
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