Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Caitlin Clark gets drafts, DeVonta Smith gets extended, Puka Nacua gives up McDonald's
Episode Date: April 16, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to University of Iowa star Caitlin Clark being selected by the Indiana Fever with the No. 1 overall pick in the WNBA Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles ag...reeing to a three-year, $75 million extension with star WR DeVonta Smith and Los Angeles Rams WR Puka Nacua saying he's removed McDonald's from his diet. 0:00 Introduction04:20 Unc shows off Synopsis Award for Best New Sports Podcast08:30 WNBA Draft talk16:00 Eagles extend WR Devonta Smith21:20 CeeDee Lamb and Justin Jefferson not present at voluntary offseason workouts37:00 Davante Adams says he doesn’t want to get traded 447:00 Puka Nacua says he’s cutting McDonald’s from his diet54:30 Kevin Durant says key to healthy season was avoiding floppers01:04:30 Will Smith makes surprise appearance at Coachella, performs Men in Black #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What's up, boy?
Ocho, okay.
Before we get started.
Yeah.
Got a little something in the bag.
Look at that, Ocho.
Boy, what's that?
That's the Synopsis Sports Media Awards 2024 new sports show,
Nightcap with Unc and Ocho, the volume.
So we got the best new sports show Nightcap with Uncle Nocho the volume. So we got the best new
sports show.
Wait a minute. No, no, no. Let me take that back.
I got the best new sports show
because as a matter of fact, I got the trophy in my hand.
Where my trophy at?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You jumping the gun.
You speeding right now.
We're in a 30 mile hour zone. Right now
I'm going 25. Okay.
Like Paul Walls say, drive slow, homie.
Hold on, hold on.
Where my trophy at?
I'm trying to stack all my stuff up right behind me.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Why they keep sending everything to your house?
Whoa.
Hey, first my plaque.
I feel threatened.
What we doing?
I feel threatened.
Chat, can someone call 911?
I feel threatened.
I mean, he's really being confrontational.
He's hostile right now.
You can't feel too threatened when you said I can't beat Max Holloway.
So you really shouldn't feel threatened if I get kind of hostile right now.
I want to understand why they keep sending you all the goodies and all the gifts and the rewards for things that the two of us have accomplished.
I'll answer that at a later date and time.
But until you calm down, sir, I'm not going to be able to answer any of your questions.
Okay, I'm calm.
I'm asking you in a nice manner.
I would like to know where my reward is or my trophy.
So I can also, I would like to show my kids.
I want to show French fry.
I want to show, look what daddy did.
Look what daddy did look what daddy did right now uh to the people that's in the chat this is the synopsis sports media awards uh nightcap with uncle nocho is the best new sports show uh 2024
and has the volume who's I uh um our collab uh collab partner and so Synopsis Sports Media Awards 2024 New Sports Show
Nightcap with Unc and Ocho.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Appreciate that.
Key words, Unc and Ocho.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unc has something to show
for the award.
Ocho is right here empty handed.
I ain't got nothing over here.
Well, at first,
your award is coming.
Okay, okay. I like that. I like that.
Okay, okay. I mean, I like to see
wars are like blessings. Right.
You know they're coming, you just don't know when.
You know what I'm saying? The war
is coming. I like that.
But see, the thing is, you don't be all, hey,
now Lord, you know I prayed to you yesterday waiting
for this blessing to come and it ain't came yet.
But you harassing me.
Right. But listen, there's one
thing about the man upstairs.
He sit high and he look low.
My grandma always told me, he don't show up
when you want him, but he always on time.
Okay. Expect that award sometime in the future.
Hey, that's why I love you, baby.
That's why I love you.
One day you're going to go to the mailbox.
It's going to be a good show tonight.
You're going to go to the mailbox like, going to be a good show tonight You're going to go to the mailbox like man what's this
And then boom
All your stuff
Your Funko
Yeah send all that
Yeah yeah
I really need that
Yeah
Synopsis of war
And listen
Many other wars to follow
later on in the future
listen the whatever wars
that we've already won
we trying to run it back
whatever wars that we
haven't won oh you best believe
we coming for we need that
we need that
we coming because all we're gonna do we're gonna to do, we're going to keep getting better.
We're going to keep producing better content.
We're going to be informative. We're going to be
entertaining.
And enlightening.
So we coming.
So whatever awards that we won, best believe
we looking for a repeat.
Like I always say, Ocho,
if Pete and Repeat was on the fence,
and Pete fell off, who was left? Repeat so that's what
we try to do we try to run it back
and if
I like
I gotta steal that I like that one
I gotta steal that
I like that one that was a good one
so if you got an award in 23
early 24
24 counts of Christmas
all them going to nightcap, Hunk and Ocho.
In one way or another.
All right, Ocho, let's get right into it.
The worst kept secret, probably since Shaq, LeBron, and Tim Duncan came out,
who was going to be the number one overall pick in the WNBA draft
and the Indiana Fever selected, Caitlin Clark, guard out of University of Iowa.
No surprise there.
The Sparks
chose Stanford on Cameron Brink.
Cameron Brink, yep.
She'll stay in California. We'll give the Sparks a two-way player.
A prolific scorer, Naismith, a defensive
player of the year. The Sparks also
needed to replace Nneka Abumake
who left for
Seattle in pre-agency.
Angel Reese went seventh to the
Chicago Sky.
So here's the picks.
Indiana Fever
selected Kaitlyn Clark, number one.
The Sparks selected Cameron Brink,
number two. Chicago Sky
selected Camilla Cardosa,
number four. The Sparks also
had two top five picks,
Ricky Jackson of Tennessee,
the Dallas Wings, J.C. Sheldon, Ohio State,
Washington Mystics, selected Aaliyah Edwards,
forward out of UConn.
Angel Reese was selected seventh
out of the Chicago Sky.
The Minnesota Lynx made a trade,
Alyssa Peely from Utah,
and Dallas Wings' Carla Lett from France.
So that was your top ten.
No surprise.
Really, I don't think there's any surprises, especially the top four.
We know Clark was going to be number one.
All indications that Brink was going to be two.
Cardoso was going to be three.
Ricky Jackson was going to be two, Cardoso was going to be three, Ricky Jackson was going to be four.
But the Chicago Sky traded back up to seven
to select Angel Reese.
And so that's how it played out.
Any surprises to you?
No, no surprises to me.
Honestly, I thought Miss thought Miss Miss Reese.
I thought Miss Reese would win earlier.
But those that went before all fit very well.
And they were team needs, you know, based on where they went.
But I think what I really like is Camila Cardoza and Angel Reese actually going to the same
team.
Yeah, you go from competing.
Now you go to playing together.
Yeah, and I think I think that's really dope for them. Outside of that, I'm
excited. I'm excited. The funny thing,
I'm a little bit more excited for
watching the WNBA coming up this following season
as opposed to I am watching NBA.
I ain't really watching NBA all season. I've been to two games
all year. I've been to that Philly game,
that Philly game when the B dropped 70,
and I went to that Knicks game not too long
ago when Jalen Brunson was out,
but I had a chance to sit in the garden.
But I'm more excited to goddamn watch the WNBA,
this upcoming season.
So this is dope.
I think this is something I'm going to get myself into
so I can talk a little bit more about it,
the way I can talk about soccer,
the way I can talk about boxing,
and the way I can talk about tennis,
and football for that matter.
But I'm excited.
Yes, Kaylin Clark going number one overall.
She goes, she teams up with last year's number one overall pick,
Aaliyah Boston, who's from University of South Carolina.
And so now she's going to have better players around her.
We know she has a great shot, has great basketball IQ.
She can facilitate the basketball because she led the nation in scoring
and she led the nation in assists.
Those things translate.
So if she's having an off-night shooting,
she can make it easier shots for her teammates.
You know, her impact on the game
is already being felt
because 36 of her games
are going to be nationally televised.
Never in the history of the WNBA
has that ever happened before.
That is impact. Butts happened before. That is impact.
Butts in seat.
That is impact.
Look at the Lakers. When they go on the road,
there are more teams there to watch LeBron and the Lakers than watch their team.
As opposed to the team plan. Same thing with Steph Curry.
That is impact.
She's going to have that type of
impact. And we see this rise
in women's sports and
so that's great for all women because
there was a time that there was no
WNBA and the women had to go
overseas so it's nice
to see that
sponsors and advertisers
and fans alike are starting to get
behind these women's sports and we're
starting to see because it's something to give
the young girls that's growing up
something to look forward to.
We know our young guys, young men, boys, they have football, they have basketball, they
have soccer.
They have so many sports to look forward to.
But women is not like that.
So for them to have the for the WNBA to have a rise in popularity, it seems like advertising
and sponsors are starting to get behind. I think Caitlin Clark is going to be at the forefront of that. them to have the for the WNBA to have a rise in popularity yeah it seems like advertising the
sponsors are starting to get behind I think Caitlin Clark is going to be at the forefront of that
but this is a great this is a great great group of young ladies Cameron Brink, Camila Cardoza,
Ricky Jackson, Jason Sheldon I am so excited and Angel Reed's rounding out going to Chicago
that's great uh I think all things being equal she could have gone to Los Angeles
which would have been great, go to New York
that's great, but Chicago is not
a bad option, not at all
that's a big market
that's a big market
I'm excited for these young
ladies, congratulations to all the
women and as I tweeted out earlier today
Ocho, this is not the end of your journey
a new journey starts now.
Just starting.
Now,
hey,
the greatest ladies play here.
Show you why.
Show you why now.
It's not about what you've done.
Hey,
everybody at this level
accomplished something.
Now,
you're zero and zero.
You've accomplished nothing
in the WNBA.
Now go show you why.
So I'm excited for all these young ladies congratulations young ladies to all those that that stood behind you
moms dad coaches our grandparents brothers and sisters and loved ones alike this is a dream
come true but this is not the end of your dream this is only the beginning of it so congratulations
to all those ladies and much success. And if I'm not mistaken,
I think the first game was, what, May 14th? So less than a month away. Wait,
already? Already, yeah.
Yeah. And the ladies were
impeccable. Kayla Clark
had on Prada. Cameron Brink
had the slit. Nice, like
he's walking the red carpet. And you know
Angel was going to do it. You know Bayou Barbie
was going to come on with it.
Yeah, she going to kill it.
She going to kill it every time.
Everybody has their own unique look and own unique style and fashion
and fashion-forward way of expressing themselves.
Yeah.
I like it.
I do, too.
That's one thing I like about the WNBA players.
Man, them girls, man, them girls put that shit on now.
Oh, they put it on?
They put that shit on.
But when it's time to come play, man, I enjoy it. Some very, very, very, very girls put that shit on now. Oh, they, they put it on. They put that shit on, but when it's time to come play,
man,
I enjoyed some very,
very,
very,
very stylish woman.
Very stylish.
They,
they were,
they were very stylish.
They,
they put on,
but pretty soon it's time to put,
hey,
it's time to put that hair up on a ponytail
and put them gym shorts on.
It's time to put up the couture.
It's time to put on some gym shorts
and let's go do this.
Let's go do this. This is what we
came to do. So congratulations
young lady. Well deserved.
Well earned. Congratulations
to all the people that stood behind them
and backed them because this no one
gets here alone.
And so again, congratulations and I'm
extremely happy for each and
every one of these young ladies that was drafted.
Now it's time for our first segment of the night, Ocho.
And it's a news cap.
The Eagles have extended former Heisman Trophy winner,
first-round pick Devontae Smith to a three-year deal, $75 million.
Devontae Smith contracts call for-year deal, $75 million. Devontae Smith contracts call
for $51 million in guaranteed money. Devontae Smith is the Eagles' third major extension of
the offseason. Landon Dixon, four years, $84 million. Jordan Maialata, three years, $66 million.
The Eagles now have Devontae Smith, Jalen Hurts, Landon Dixon, and Jordan Maialata, all secured to the year 2029.
Devontae Smith has the most receptions, 240,
and receiving yards, 3,178,
through the first three seasons in Eagles history. The Eagles appear to have wanted a head start
on wide receivers market as they extended Devontae Smith
prior to the extension of other notable receivers.
Smith was selected 10th overall in the 2021 draft.
The notable receivers from the 2020
NFL draft who are still in line
for a contract extension have
not received them yet. T. Higgins,
C.D. Lamb, Brandon
Ayuk, and
Justin Jefferson.
Smith says, you know
what, hey bro, y'all do what
y'all do, but I got to do what's in the best interest of my family.
And in the best interest of my family,
I'm going to get a head start on this thing.
So y'all do what y'all do.
I'm going to take this 75,
three-year, $75 million, 51 guaranteed.
And I'm going to get on up out of here.
And the most important thing about it is,
is the guarantee.
What is guaranteed?
What am I getting?
Forget what the numbers look.
I know it looks pretty. Three for 75. No, let me see the real numbers. Let me break down what I'm really
earning within that timeframe and what is coming to me, come hell or high water if I get hurt,
no matter what, it's going to be in my pocket. It's going to be in my pocket.
Yeah, for sure.
Listen, them three years from to go by so fast, he's going to double up and come right back to
the bank. He's going to double up and have that Brink truck
back on up because I don't see
Smitty slowing down anytime soon,
especially in that offense that he's in. He's going to be
productive the next three
years. So he's going to see another
payday.
I like the
fact, Ojo,
he's not waiting around to see what others
because the worst mistake people can make
sometimes is to measure your value by what
somebody else got.
We see that an awful lot. Well, he
got that. Wait, what?
That ain't got nothing to do with you.
You're not over there.
You're right here.
How am I going to tell a man,
hey, they got cake over there and I'm in a hardware
store. I can only get hammer and nails
or a song.
That's all I get. That's all I can get over here.
That's all I can get in a hardware store.
They're in a grocery store.
So you're not where they are.
So you can't say, well, they did this.
Never measure your worth
by what someone else got.
And so if you
do that, you'll be fine. And so if you do that,
you'll be fine.
And so he's like,
look,
I got to worry about my financial,
me.
He got a wife, I think he got a wife
or a girlfriend,
a kid,
I think he just had a newborn
within the last six months.
And so,
if he feels comfortable with it,
let that rock.
Let that rock.
Like you said,
hey,
get that money,
get that money early.
How old is he? 24, 25? He number 25. Let that rock. Like you said, hey, get that money, get that money early.
How old is he?
24,
25?
He number 25.
25,
yes.
He number 25.
He go ahead and ball out like he's been balling out.
They'll come back
and see him again at 28.
Oh,
yeah.
Yeah,
most definitely.
Real,
real quick.
So,
congratulations,
Smitty.
He's one of the first guys
that I had
on my podcast
at Club Shea Shea Shea actually we did it here
in my backyard in the garage and so
he had just won the Heisman
won all the awards that
year so congratulations in order
to him yeah yeah and
he's very deserving
you know what else
you know what else you know what Devante nutrition
you know what his diet is what is it
McDonald's I just wanted to throw that out there I just wanted to throw that out there for you real quick You know what else? You know what Devontae nutrition, you know what his diet is? What is it?
McDonald's.
I just wanted to throw that out there.
I just wanted to throw that out there for you real quick.
I just wanted to have that.
Hey, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
I just wanted to throw that out there
for you real quick.
You see how much Devontae weigh?
You see how much I weigh?
He about 180, 190.
Devontae ain't never seen 180.
Devontae, I guarantee you,
Devontae can come right now,
look through my keyhole with both eyes.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, Ocho.
I guarantee you.
Hold on, hold on.
Chill, you ain't seen him lately.
He been in the weight room.
He about 190 right now.
Look at him.
I'm telling you, he about 190.
Hold on, Ocho.
This is what we know
because we played long enough.
Whatever they list you as,
you up under that.
Especially with you.
He probably about 165, 163.
I'm telling you,
he done put on some weight
this offseason.
You know, he done bulked up.
I guarantee you,
when you see him this year,
you're going to be like,
God damn,
where you been working?
He about 190.
I kid you not.
You'll see.
Man, that joke was skinny, man.
That's all.
When I saw him be skinny, the man swallowed. I watched it go all that joke was skinny, man. That's all I want.
That's all I want to be skinny.
The man swallow,
I watch it go all the way down
to his stomach.
That's how skinny,
I'm just saying, Ocho.
That's how skinny the man is.
I watch it go all the way down.
I say, well, damn.
Hey, come on, man.
Don't try to be the only one like that.
Nah, he good people.
Yeah, he good people.
He really good people.
Real good dude.
Real good dude.
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What happened with C.D. Lamb, what?
Here we go.
C.D. Lamb and Justin Jefferson skipped workout-admitted contract talks.
The pair of NFL top receivers decided not to show up to voluntary workouts
on Monday in the midst of contracts talk.
I don't blame them.
Both players are set to hit free agency in 2025
and will attempt to work out a long-term contract
in order to stay with the organization.
C.D. Lamb will be playing on a fifth-year option
worth $18 million.
CeeDee's coming off a career year in which
he led all NFL players with 135
receptions. He racked up
1,749 yards while
finding the end zone 12 times.
Jefferson has a base salary of
$20 million
after the Vikings
exercised his fifth- option the 24 year old skipped
voluntary workouts in 2023 although he showed up for the team's mandatory minicamp i don't blame
him anything that's voluntary voluntary means it's on my own free volition i decide to come
that's what volunteering is i volunteer my service you want me to come? Make it mandatory. I ain't giving you no money back.
Just Jefferson and the Vikings
nearly reached an agreement in 2023,
although the deal fell apart
and never was finalized.
What you got?
Man, them boys, listen.
Them boys ain't playing by their money, man.
They ain't playing by their money.
And sometimes, you know what?
You got to,
it's one thing to love the game of what? It's one thing to love the game
of football. It's one
thing to love it and be passionate about it as a
player, but you know what that business
will do to you? They'll
use it against you when it's pay time.
Oh, absolutely. Listen, they will lose
your love for the game of football
and use it against you when it's time to get
paid because they know, you know what? He loves the game
so much, he gonna come in anyway. He gonna show the game so much. He's going to come in.
He's going to come in anyway.
Oh,
he's going to show up to camp anyway.
He's going to show up to camp.
So that,
that notion,
you got to be careful.
You got to understand.
You got to play the game,
especially when it comes to this business.
It's one thing to love and be passionate about the game and love your team
and be loyal to your teammates and all this.
There's no,
I am a team player.
All that shit sound good until it's time for you to get paid and the business shows you exactly how dirty and ugly you can get.
There's no reason CeeDee Lamb should not be paid at this point
because the resume speaks for itself.
There's no reason Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase,
I'm sure it takes time.
You know, you got to do the numbers and all that stuff.
You got to do the books.
There's a lot that goes into it.
But you already know these individuals are coming up.
You already knew you had...
Budget.
Voluntary.
You already knew you had voluntary camp coming up.
You would want your best players in camp at that time.
You would want them in time.
So why even play this game?
You did the same goddamn shit in Dallas.
You did the same shit with Goddamn Ezekiel Elliott.
You had Zeke out there on the beach in Cabo, wherever he was at, working out.
He was training, keeping himself.
Why even play this game?
And then they come in the camp.
You know how different it is.
You could train 100 times a day away from football.
But when you're in that structured environment,
it's completely different.
It's completely different. You think
you're in shape working by yourself
until you get out there with
11-on-11 and 7-on-7
and you're getting pushed around and moved
around. It's a little bit different.
You get in shape
by playing football. That's how you get
in football shape. Guys play basketball, they do open runs because you get in shape by playing football. That's how you get in football shape.
Period.
Guys play basketball, they do open runs.
Yeah.
Because you get in shape playing basketball.
Yeah.
And so that's what you need to do.
But I don't have a problem with the guys.
Look, it's early.
Now, once training camp roll around and they're not in camp,
now we're going to have something
to really talk about, Ocho.
That's even worse, though.
Why do teams play this game?
Why?
Why not
allow him to be in camp
happy, for one, like you do your quarterbacks.
You take care of your quarterbacks to make sure
they're happy and have nothing going on in their head
mentally, so they're clear. They have a clear
mind, ready to go in. But when it comes
to the skill position,
they always got to fight tooth and nail.
You got to drag them through the mud,
no matter how good they are.
You wait to the last minute.
I don't know what point you're trying to prove.
Okay, we're going to take care of that.
Two minutes before camp starts.
Two minutes before camp starts,
he'll go cross the ticker.
Oh, so-and-so finally signed.
Oh, Joe.
Oh, man.
The Cowboys won the Super Bowl.
Emmitt Smith contract, he won and negotiated.
He missed the first two games of 93.
Emmitt Smith is the all-time leading rusher.
And they made him hold out two games.
They lost both of those games, and Jerry came to his senses and got him in.
Yeah. Yes. So, from an owner's perspective, I know it's hard for us to think like owners.
I think from that business business mindset on the other side of the spectrum.
What is it that they're doing? What purpose are they as owners?
Do they do in withholding, giving the contract until the last minute? Or just forcing you?
The word, you remember last week, Ocho, I asked you to spell the word precedent?
Right.
They don't want to set a precedent.
They don't want a situation where I ask, okay, the team just gave in.
Let's just say CD wants $35 million.
A year.
Team probably offering $25 million.
Oh, no.
No, don't lowball him. Okay, but go ahead that's a okay now okay you come down i come up you come down how soon do we meet right
that's how they're trying to look at it the problem that they're running into
is that you got that beast over on the other side of the ball, Michael.
Oh, yeah.
You see what Miles Garrett got?
Yeah.
You see what Joey Bosa got?
You see what T.J. Watt got?
Right, right, right, right, right.
Yeah.
And that was two and three years ago.
Inflation.
Yeah.
What you could buy, what you could get with a hundred million guarantee you can't get today.
Michael said,
give me my money.
Yeah,
you're right.
Because here's the thing.
Oh,
Joe,
this is a ball of water.
Yeah,
that's all it is.
Now,
some places that ball of water,
you can get it for a dollar someplace.
You can get it for $2.
Right.
Go to the ballpark, it might cost you $10.
The value of the water is determined by where you are.
You see, sometimes, Ocho, you have to look at it.
If my value isn't right here, I might be in the wrong place. I might need to go somewhere else where my value is a little higher.
Now that's a bottle of water.
I don't care what they say.
It could have been in the old day, could have packaged it in Switzerland or Antarctica or the Ozarks.
But at the end of the day, it quenches your thirst.
And some of it costs you a dollar
some of it costs you five dollars
some of it might cost you twenty
the only difference
is where you purchase it from
determines the value of it
where you're playing
determines the value
so maybe you might
hey, Ocho, because guess what
if I take this watch, I might take it to the pawn shop.
Pawn shop might say, man, I know what it's worth,
but you coming in here, so obviously you need the money.
I ain't going to give you what it's worth.
I might give you $5,000.
Your homie on the street said, man, I like that.
I ain't never seen that.
I might give you $10,000.
You might take it to the auction.
They're like, well, dang, Rolex only produced 100 of these.
This was in great shape.
I think it might be worth X.
You see?
It's the same watch.
Three different people valued it differently.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
I like that.
Okay. You don't value it't value also in a relationship it's the same yeah she he might not value you you might have to leave right and where somebody else
values you what you do more than what you're currently being valued right here.
But you can't be afraid
to leave. I like that.
You can't be afraid to leave.
You can't, Ocho.
A lot of times people are afraid.
They're afraid of the unknown.
See, this is why people are afraid of the dark and not the day.
Because I can't see that well at night.
Something might be lurking behind that door.
The boogeyman might be out there.
See, that's the difference between, that's what faith is.
You know what?
People need to hear what you're saying right now.
Especially with that faith and that afraid to leave because of the value and whoever you,
you might be in a situation where you're not feeling valued
or you're not valued in general.
Ladies,
if you listen,
fellas,
if you got somebody you're dealing with,
it's not easy.
It's not easy.
I know it's not easy,
but still,
just to put a little bug in your ear,
just to put a little bug in your ear,
you saying this tonight for a reason.
It's going to hit somebody. Yeah reason you saying this tonight for a reason it's it's gonna hit somebody yeah you saying it tonight for a reason this came up tonight for a reason but somebody that's listening i'm telling you because you're in a situation where the person
you went is not valuing you and whatever it is you bring to the table it's a very it's a situation no joe where my trainer thought it's the bible teaches us it says god says have faith see faith is
is believing with not knowing god said if you if you believe if you say you got to believe first
and i'll show you what is man the opposite man say show me and i'll show you. What is man? The opposite. Man say, show me and I'll believe you. Right.
And so most people, you need
to show it to them before
they believe it. Right.
Right. But faith is the
is taking that leap of faith
is the unknown.
But believing.
Someone asked me, said, well,
Shannon, when your situation ended at uh uh understood undisputed
how did you know i say i don't gamble anymore i said but if i go to if i go to vegas
and i play roulette i'm betting on black i'm gonna bet on me
come on now you see the problem that people, the people underestimate me because they, they, they forget where I came from.
Yeah.
This is the easiest situation that I've ever had to leave.
Right.
Do you understand where my family came from and how my brother and I got it out of the mud?
Literally.
Right.
So you mean to tell me I can't?
Remember, what did I tell you?
If I'd done it before, I can do it again.
Oh, yeah, most definitely.
Every time.
Barney Porter used to tell my brother and I,
he said, boy, anytime I take y'all somewhere,
you should always be able to get back.
If I take you somewhere,
he would always tell me and my brother,
if I take you somewhere one time,
you should get back.
Well,
hell,
I was on TV before doing what I did.
You mean to tell me I couldn't get back on TV and do it again?
If I got an opportunity,
you mean to tell me that if I,
if I,
if I did this with club,
Shay,
Shay,
you mean to tell me I couldn't get with a host,
a co-host and and create Nightcap?
You lying to me.
Y'all nothing to tell me what I can't do.
Just tell me it hadn't been done yet.
Because sometimes people try to force
their beliefs off on you.
Just because you can't do it,
that don't mean I can't do it.
I can't.
Listen, everything is possible.
Everything is possible.
You put your mind to it.
You put your mind to it.
You got your little discipline.
You put your mind to it.
Yes!
And you're willing to execute a plan to get it done.
Everything and anything is possible.
And you know why I knew I could do it, Ocho?
Because think about how hard I worked for the Broncos,
how hard I worked for the Ravens, how hard I work for the Ravens,
how hard I work for CBS and Fox.
So you mean to tell me I'm going to deny myself
vacation and everything for them,
but I can't do it for my own?
I can't do it for Club Shea Shea?
I can't do it for nightcap?
That's mine?
Yeah.
And that's what people don't understand.
People will work themselves to the bone on somebody else's job and will give less than half the effort for their own.
And then wonder why. I don't know why. Just think about if you had worked as hard as you did on Mr.
Charlie's job as you did for 10, 15 years as you when you got your own.
Well, I don't feel like going to work today,
so I ain't got to go to work today.
See? No.
I'm going to show up coming hell of hot water.
I'm going to have to be gravely
ill not for me
to show up. Because
guess what? There were some times
I didn't feel like taking my ass to work,
but I went and got
on that man clock.
I can get on my clock.
Yeah.
That's the approach you have to have, people.
That's the mindset that you have to have.
If you can work that hard for somebody else,
you should be damn willing to work that hard for your damn self.
Yeah.
You got to want it.
Can't nobody want it for you.
Can't nobody want it for you.
Nah.
And that's the number one thing I tell my kids.
I can't want something for you more than you want it for yourself.
Right.
Because at the end of the day,
oh yeah,
daddy pushing me,
daddy pushing me.
And then as soon as daddy turned around,
you were like,
nah, I don't really want to do that.
Yeah.
And I always told him,
you know,
hey,
do what you want.
Because I've lived that.
My dream,
my whole dream was to get great out of this environment. Now, if that's that's not your dream they say you're not upset your son didn't play football
hell no that was my dream that wasn't his yeah yeah the last thing I wanted for my kids to be
was 30 years old and say well daddy I only did this because of you no hell you didn't you chose
that you chose that major because that's what you wanted to do you chose that job because that's what you want to do Shannon You chose that job because that's what you want to do.
Shannon did what he wanted to do.
Shannon didn't push you in any direction.
Once you chose the direction, I said, okay,
because this is what you're going to have to do.
So no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't, I didn't.
Yeah.
Did I push my kids?
Yes.
Be better.
Be humble.
But not just, oh, son oh son you gotta play football now you
he don't want to play now you don't want okay fine that was my dream right i don't force my
dreams off on my kids the hard work yes absolutely absolutely i'll make sure you're gonna work hard
now i said hey at the sharp the Sharp household, it only got
it only got one room for one lazy
mofo, I'm in
I'm the only lazy
mofo that can lay here
so
Devontae Adams rejects
trade chatter, if I wanted
to be gone, I'd be gone, for more than
a year, trade rumors surrounding Devontae Adams
have circulated based on multiple factors, including coaching change.
And he's 31 years of age, seeking to play for a clear contender.
Speaking to Sunday at his youth football camp in Las Vegas, Adams told reporters he had no desire to be traded.
If I wanted to be gone, I would be gone by now.
This is where I want to be.
I like, yeah, I mean, listen,
sometimes you don't know when something is real,
but even at 31, Devontae, to me,
still the most prolific elite route runner
in the NFL now.
He is highly inspiring,
highly sought after if he was a secret,
you know, to want to be traded.
Some contenders, some thoughts on places that he would he could go and and fill that role very good buffalo bills
being one of them you know buffalo bills being one of them hey getting that saying getting that
same type of monster player that stefan diggs was that is an elite route runner that you can put in any position,
can play from the outside, can play from the inside.
He can beat man. He can beat
zone. He can do it all.
He can do it all.
He like, hey, he like, look,
he built a nice home. He got
a wife, a couple of kids,
no state income tax
in Nevada. Buffalo ain't it, dog.
Huh? Buffalo ain't it, dog. Huh? Buffalo
ain't it? No.
I don't think he wants to move. I don't think
he, you know what, after playing.
Listen to the words he said, man.
He said a contender.
That's what speculation
said. He said if I
want to be somewhere else, I would.
I thought he said, okay, my bad, my bad.
Go ahead, go ahead. After spending your time in Cincinnati,
you ain't really trying to go back.
You ain't trying to live in no cold weather, are you?
No, I like the cold.
There ain't nothing wrong with that now.
I like that.
I'm in Vegas.
I'm in a controlled environment.
Eight games a year is going to be perfect.
Maybe nine games.
So this might be the year the AFC have nine home games.
Right.
Perfect weather.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm sure he would love to play
with a quarterback like a Roger hell he take Derek Carr all over again because hell he would
have 50 on the yard that was first team off road with Derek Carr yeah he just doesn't like the
quarterback carousel quarterback for four games another quarterback another quarterback he doesn't
like that he He likes certainty.
Talk about certainty? Who's the quarterback
right now for the Raiders? That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Aiden O'Connell is the quarterback
right now. It's going to be
interesting. He and Josh Allen.
Don't disrespect him, but I'm just saying.
I would like...
I love Devontae
to death, but I'm just saying, if you like, I love Devontae to death,
but I'm just saying, if you could go to a contender,
it would behoove you to do so
because I want to see you get back to where
I know you can still play
and I want the numbers to show.
I want the numbers to show that
so people can stop talking this,
you know what, gibberish about,
oh, I ain't even going to go there.
I ain't even going to bring it. I even gonna bring it I'm not gonna give a table
legs and bring that up but
well you know Gardner Minshew is also
the backup they signed him
I mean hey while you're bull driving
he got Michael Pittman Juman
100 plus something catching
12-13 on the yard so
if he can get gone and that's no disrespect
to Pittman Jr.,
I play – but I think Devontae might be – but, you know, hey,
different city, different situation.
I think the thing is, I mean, Ocho, he's – like I said, he a family man.
He got kids.
He ain't trying to really uproot his family at 31.
And – but here's the thing, Ocho,
and sometimes, you know, we all want,
I want guys to win as much as anybody,
but ain't no guarantee.
That's the thing that we love about sports.
Ain't no guarantees.
Because what happens, he get there,
then the quarterback go down halfway through the season.
Sometimes there's certain examples you got to take.
Sometimes you're like, damn.
I mean,
Brady was always helping. Think about it.
In 20 years,
with the exception of one year, so 22,
Brady came in, so for 22, 23 years, one
season,
you had to worry about Brady not being up on the
center. But every Sunday,
every Monday, every Thursday, you trotted
out there for 20 plus seasons.
You know 12 if you was in New England or Tampa,
12 was going to be on the center.
And if he's on the center,
I got an 85% chance
of winning.
Every time.
Everybody don't get
that old joke.
Damn, man.
Just think about that.
Damn.
Mm-hmm.
So at the end of the day, what's important to Devontae?
Because everybody doesn't view championships as the end-all, be-all.
Now, us, we've done that.
Well, you a bum.
I don't believe guys are bum
if you don't win a championship.
I just believe,
and I've been on record
and I still believe this.
I believe you can be great
without a ring.
But when we want us to add EST to it,
you got to have that.
And that's not to diminish anybody
that doesn't have that.
Because someone asked me, said, well, Shannon,
which would you rather have, a Super Bowl
ring or a
Hall of Fame ring? I said, well, I
ain't glad I got to make that decision.
Yeah. I'm sitting
pretty where I am.
Well, hold on.
I got a ring, too.
And I got a jacket.
You about to have a wedding band. Yeah, I got my own jacket. I got one- too. And I got a jacket. You about to have a wedding band.
Yeah, I got, yeah, band.
I got my own jacket.
I got one-on-one.
Yeah.
Jeez.
But so that, you know, people like, oh, he wasn't.
No, no.
Are you trying to tell me because Dan Marino didn't win a Super Bowl ring,
he wasn't one of the great quarterbacks?
But the reason why they don't put him
as the great Tis is
because you got Brady and you got
Montana and you got Mahomes
and you got Manning and you got
Elway with those rings.
And Bradshaw. So you got guys with
rings and multiples.
But Marina,
but Dano, I played
in Dano's era
Sometimes it's unfair
How
We take
A team accomplishment
And
It's not
How do I say it the right way
Super Bowl ring
A ring It's's a team accomplishment.
So sometimes it's out of individual players' control.
Just so happened maybe you're part of that team that happens to go.
I don't know.
It's weird how that works and how it's looked upon where you're seen in a different light as an individual
based on a team accomplishment.
Yeah.
When it took a whole group to get it as opposed to you as an individual,
but you don't put – sometimes when we talk about the greatest quarterbacks,
they don't put Dan Marino in it because of a team accomplishment
that his team wasn't able to achieve, but other quarterbacks were.
I don't
know if i said it the right way yeah but that's just well that's just the way we do it now
yeah that's just the way that's rings you know we had that debate um that rings i mean in order
to be in the discussion i think you have to have at least one. Now, it's not the end-all, be-all.
Right, right, right.
But I think in order to be considered great-est, you need a championship.
Because that's why you play.
There's a reason why.
Name a sport that doesn't have an end-of-the-year championship.
Name the sport.
Be it ultimate frisbee, be it what uh uh what that is cornhole they got tag
they got all kind of big oh joe you know right i watched on esp and they got pillow fight now
yeah yeah they got pillow fight i was a champ because i used to beat the brace
yeah you know they got pillow fighting and but at the end of the year, what did they have?
A thing called a championship.
So if it didn't matter, they wouldn't have those, Ocho.
Football, Super Bowl, World Series, NBA Finals, the Olympics.
What do they say?
The Finals.
They have gold, silver, bronze.
Bronze.
There's a reason.
Look at Osafo Powell have all those
fast times and got no
goals to show for it.
So how can
I say he the greatest
when he ain't got no goals?
Right.
If Usain Bolt, nobody
would consider Usain Bolt the greatest
sprinter without those gold medals.
You gotta have them.
There've been a lot of great sprinters. There've been a lot of guys.
There've been guys that hold the world, had the world
record that didn't have gold medals.
We got to remember those are individual accolades
though. They're in control of their
destiny. Now when we talk about basketball
or we talk about football,
those are team achievements.
But then when it comes to talking about it it it's talked about in an individual manner like it's just the quarterback
that got it done when it it was it took a team effort it still took that same team to get you
that mvp it was a team did he not play so did he not play on the team to get that mvp or was he
just playing by himself and then once he got to the finals, we needed a team. Right. You're right.
You're right.
That's a good combo.
That's a real good combo.
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that beat the brakes off of Stephen A. Smith in the Celebrity All-Star Basketball game.
Puka Nakua say he's working out with Cooper Cupp and cutting out McDonald's from his diet.
Hell nah!
After setting an NFL rookie record,
hauling in 105 receptions,
1,486 yards,
Puka revealed that he's been training
with teammate Cooper Cupp.
His conditioning days were some of the tougher ones.
The 22-year-old admitted Cupp
was ready to get right before the Super Bowl.
He's already starting integration to get ready to work out. A right before the super bowl he's already starting
integration to get ready to work out a lot of mobility stuff the first part then continue to
stay explosive a lot of top end speed we're working on the first i came back i think i threw up every
day of the week it was i he wasn't a fan of that because he was he was on his lawn puka also
revealed that he's changing his diet during the season cutting cutting back on some of the fast foods. I think
Cooper would definitely not advise me to eat McDonald's
as much as I did during the season.
He wasn't a fan of that.
Ha ha!
I see. This is
what's wrong. This is what's wrong with
us at times. We allow
others to influence us.
We allow others to get in the way.
And it's the same thing.
Tiger, when he was playing extremely well, you see what he did off the field, right?
Yeah.
Stay with me real quick.
You see what he did off the field.
And then once that diminished, it seemed like everything else diminished with it.
Now, Puka Nakua, I need you to pay attention.
Look at the season you had last year.
Yeah. Understand your nutrition
and your intake
and what you consume
throughout the entirety
of the season
and the numbers you put up.
Now you go around
and you come back
the following season
trying to change up
the whole scenario
and change up what you did,
which was working.
If it ain't broke,
there's no need to fix it.
Regardless of what Cooper Cupp says
or might say or advise
you,
do what works for you. Do what works for your body.
Okay, we'll try it out then.
He said, I'm going to try it out. I'm going to try to go with no fast food.
No, no, no, no.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't try it.
If you had
a season like that,
eating the way you do,
stay within your What if I could have a better season?
No, you wouldn't have a better season. How you know?
Because you wouldn't have. How you know?
Because what you eat don't make or break you.
Yeah, it does. Made it time.
Made it time.
I ain't never get tired. No, I don't.
No, I don't.
There you go, Cooper. Gotta be willing to switch it up. No, I don't. No, I don't. No, I don't. No, I don't. There you go, Cooper.
Got to be willing to switch it up.
No, no, you don't.
And you know what?
If his numbers are not reflective of what they were last year,
it's because of the goddamn nutrition.
First of all, he might have a better season,
but not have the numbers that he had.
I ain't trying to hear that.
I ain't trying to hear all that.
So numbers is the key.
So that's what you're telling me.
When it's time to get paid, they're going to use the numbers.
Yes, numbers is the key.
Thank you.
Ain't that what you always say?
He's going to get paid, don't you?
When it's time to get paid, they're going to look at the numbers.
And when you was eating McDonald's,
the numbers was astronomical.
He said, I cut it out.
Is that a word?
Was that a word?
Yeah, astronomical.
Okay, I'm just making sure it was a word.
I made that shit up on the fly.
Yeah.
He said, I ain't eating that McDonald's like that no more.
No, no.
He said he's not going to eat as much of it, but he's still going to eat it.
No, he said he's not going to eat as much fast food, yeah.
Oh, he's still going to eat it, though. I'm going to talk as much of it. He's not going to eat as much fast food. Yeah. Oh, he's still going to eat it, though.
I'm going to talk to him.
Pookie, hell, Pookie might
be watching. I'm going to tweet him.
Don't change no goddamn diet
because what Cooper got. Hell, no.
I made that look. I ate a certain way.
I mean, to each his own.
Man.
But there's a reason why they hired
most of these
Except you guys
Y'all cheap ass
Most people hire these nutritionists
Hire these nutritionists
To come in and cook
Yeah man
Listen man
Man
I ain't trying to hear that
I ain't trying to hear that
Y'all ain't got no
Y'all ain't got no
Y'all
Listen
All that nutrition
And all that stuff
Man ain't nothing but a money grab man
That shit
Man I ain't trying to hear that man
All the Everybody got all these nutritionists And everybody still getting hurt And dropping like flies Nutrition and all that stuff, man, ain't nothing but a money grab, man. Man, I ain't trying to hear that, man.
Everybody got all these nutritionists and everybody still getting hurt and dropping like flies.
The goddamn injury, non-contact injury is up 47%. Listen, you got all these boys eating like goddamn rabbits, playing a goddamn barbaric sport,
and wonder why your body goddamn breaking down.
Ain't nobody touching you.
You ain't got to eat all that foo-foo stuff, down and ain't nobody touching. You ain't gotta eat
all that foo-foo stuff,
but you ain't gotta eat
all that fast food.
Listen, what you do need to do
is you need to eat stuff.
You need to build a callus up.
I keep saying it
over and over and over.
Stop eating like
a goddamn jackrabbit
and you play a goddamn sport
where you run into each other
at 30 miles an hour
and you...
You know what?
Don't worry.
Ain't nobody gonna listen to me.
Y'all keep... Y'all keep, listen, y'all keep eating green.
There you go.
That's what you're doing.
Hey, keep eating your green stuff.
Keep eating all that healthy stuff
and wonder why your body
and y'all keep getting hurt.
Keep eating it.
Watch what happens.
And nothing but a money grab.
That's all it is.
Oh, you got to eat this
and you got to eat this, right?
And it can help with performance.
It can help with explosion and all this other stuff. And you're pulling this and you got to eat this, right? And it help with performance. It help with explosion
and all this other stuff.
And you're pulling this
and you're pulling that.
You can't run.
You can't explode.
Man, please,
don't get me started.
I'm hot.
Now I'm mad.
What you mad at?
What you upset about?
Because, I mean,
I'm just,
they allow all these new,
all this new stuff
and technology and food and all this green and all this.
This is healthy.
You ain't playing Nintendo 64.
Why you ain't playing Nintendo 64?
What was wrong with Nintendo 64?
Why you got all them gaming apparatuses?
Why you got that chair?
Why you got all those monitors?
If you so against advancement.
Where's the advancement?
If everybody's going backwards, everybody getting hurt.
Everybody don't get hurt.
Where's the advancement?
Injuries are up.
I believe the injuries are up because guys aren't practicing.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't try that.
Stop trying to say it's because we need practice.
So you mean to tell me guys don't do no hitting and just go out there on Sundays?
They hit on Wednesdays.
They don't hit nothing.
Oh, I can't.
I ain't going to put no practice.
You only get, what, 13 padded practices a season?
Hold on.
Is that?
Hold on.
So you're saying the reason they're getting hurt is because they're not hitting?
I tell you, you're not going to blame them eating like, eating like, uh,
No, I think so.
Look, it might be a combination.
But here's the thing Ocho, it might, it might be a combination.
It might be not hitting, it might be over training.
Ocho, this guy, he said Cooper Cup was ready to start training after the Super Bowl, before the Super Bowl.
The season just ended.
You got to give your body some recoverability.
I don't like it.
Eat what you want.
Understand what works for you.
Understand your body.
Injuries are up
and I know why injuries are up.
It's because the bullshit
they putting in our system.
That's it.
I have nothing else to say.
You got to find food.
But anyway,
Kevin Durant said the key to healthy season was avoiding floppers and crash dummies.
Tonight, Kevin Durant was included
in what are reported 11
players projected to lead U.S. basketball
into the 2024 Paris
Summer Olympics.
The Team USA
is finalizing 11 of its 12-man
roster. Kurt Roge,
LeBron James,
Steph Curry,
Kevin Durant,
Joel Embiid,
Jason Tatum,
Devin Booker,
Holiday,
Anthony Davis,
Anthony Edwards,
Bam Adebayo,
Tyrese Halliburton.
They have room for one more.
That inclusion was anything but a surprise,
but KD is coming off a strong season in which he,
he also played in 78 of 82 games for Phoenix.
With the backdrop, KD
spoke to the Arizona Republic
and delivered some unbelievable quotes to help
lead to durability. No players
flopped into my legs this year.
Last two years, I had a teammate
flopped into me and an opponent flopped
into me two straight years and caused
me MCL injuries.
If it wasn't for that, I probably would be out
there the same amount of games, but I'm glad
nobody flopped. Just stay away from
crash dummies, you know. These dudes who try
to sell calls don't mind hurting
people by diving on the floor and
trying to sell a call. I know who those
guys are. I try to stay away from them.
Like KD calling out Team Mason
and some of the other guys that flopped
into his knees because that caused
LeBron James. LeBron James, one year, I believe, was having an MVP season.
Yeah.
And I think the guy was, I hate to mention your name, Solomon Hill.
All of a sudden, he's diving on the floor like he tried to make the team
and go right to LeBron's and end up messing up his ankle or his knee?
Ankle.
End up messing up his ankle.
Yeah.
And.
Damn.
I mean, you're surprised.
Think about how much they jump.
And more guys don't come down
on somebody's ankle.
Yeah.
Think about, I mean,
I get it.
It's just hard.
And I understand, you know,
some guys, that's how they made it
into the league, diving.
But going at a ball, like you said,
it's not like KD has the most
sturdiest foundation. The dude's
seven foot tall. So you know what I'm saying,
Ocho? You know, just a little tweak.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, man.
Damn. So what, you
okay with him?
Yeah, but KD, yeah, yeah. KD, I mean,
KD cool.
You know, I talk to him.
He's not one of them healthy eaters either.
He ain't one of them healthy eaters.
That's my dog.
I done been to five guys with Kevin.
I done been to five guys with Durant down here in Miami.
No, that one five guy.
It's a little burger spot.
So I know he flipped back and forth, you know,
between eating what's right,
then eating, and he got a combination of both,
which is why he had to-
You see how scared Kevin Durant is?
Yeah, but that's his frame.
His frame is just like that.
There's nothing you can do.
There's nothing you can do to that.
Kevin Durant, I guarantee you, it could be raining downpour.
Kevin Durant staying on the clothesline and not get wet.
I'm just telling you what it is, Ocho.
I'm telling you now.
Saw it myself. Saw it.
I mean, some guys
just have that frame no matter
what they eat, Ocho.
I mean,
look, we've all had teammates.
I had teammates. They needed
to go out on Friday night.
They were going to get drunk.
Right.
Hey, man, come on.
Hey, Sharp, look.
Shut up.
I play better.
All right.
As long as you do you.
Hey, some guys ate what they wanted.
I wasn't that guy.
In my mind, I had convinced myself, Ocho,
that if I ate a certain
way, I would perform better.
The mind is
a magnificent thing.
Yeah, it is.
That's how you became you.
Because you believe you was better than everybody
else. That might have not been the case.
But you couldn't tell Ocho
that he wasn't. Oh no.
See?
Oh no.
Hold on, I'm going to go out there and show you.
I'm going to talk it and I'm going to walk it and I'm going to back it up.
Everything, every word.
Huh?
Stop playing with me now.
You know what it is.
I'm coming to the party.
Uninvited.
Uninvited.
I'm there.
Front door.
Hello.
I'm here. We finna have a time. I'm there. Front door. Hello. I'm here.
We finna have a time.
Yeah, you ain't getting nothing today.
I bet I'll leave with more catches than I had coming into the game.
What you want to bet on that, Big Mouth?
It was some fun days.
Man, please, though, Chuck.
Hey, don't get me hyped in here, man. Don't get me hyped.
Don't get me hyped, man. I don't me don't get me hyped man i don't know why
you talking first of all why are you talking you on special teams you're not gonna even see me on
the field yeah when you see me i'm running off the field or running on or you running on and i'm
we never go why are you talking you don't have to guard me you're doing all that talking yeah
all of them are some fun days you know what it's always like? It's like the dude,
you're not driving the car.
You're in the backseat or you're in the passenger
seat and you're trying to holler. It ain't
even your car.
First of all, if you're in the backseat, you
definitely should be trying to holler. Right.
Ain't nobody hollering nobody in the backseat.
None. You don't like that?
You ain't never did that? Oh,
me? I did man hey
early dip Ocho
I was in the back you know
me and some of our teammates we rookies
we stopped hey we saw
this girl hey hey you know back then
what's up Ocho
check this out check this out Red
hey hey hey
I was like hey throw some meat off in that car
you know what I'm saying you gotta Hey, hey, hey, hey. I was like, hey, throw some meat off in that car. You know, you got to.
So, you know, back then, Ocho, you could flag women down.
They would stop.
You ain't flagging.
Ain't no woman stopping for you.
Now you flag them down.
You're going to call the police on your ass.
OK, yeah, yeah.
Real quick.
Real quick.
Yeah, he's still following me.
He's still following me.
Them blue lights going to be on your ass.
But anyway, I was in the back seat.
Man.
And so, you know, I was just going to chill until this one stepped out.
Man, dude tried to get out.
Man, I pushed that seat forward so quick.
So you can get out there first?
And pinned him against the steering wheel.
I beat it to a point.
Man, I was over that thing like Peppermint Pugh.
You know how Peppermint P Pew would fly, would glow back there?
I would be happy.
Yeah, that's all.
She was fine, huh?
Huh?
Why she?
Damn.
Let that one get away, huh?
Oh, Joe.
See that? Nah,, huh? Ocho. See that?
Nah, let me tell you what.
It wasn't nothing I could do.
Ocho.
Hey.
She had just...
The disappointment in the way you said,
let me tell you.
Ocho, she had just took the army test two weeks earlier.
She was going to the military.
Oh, no.
You got to find her, though, Uncle.
You got to find her.
She might be.
Don't think I didn't.
You know, it's a two-year lapse, but I'm tracking her down.
You're tracking her down, huh?
Did I?
Okay.
Okay, okay, okay. It just't happen she was in hawaii
when your boy was going to the promo
i had to make it hey once i found out she was in hawaii yeah i went i went crazy on him yeah
and that man wasn't a guy in the shop he bad shop didn't get across that water. Yeah. Okay.
Okay.
I like it.
Hey, that A.
And she was still stacked up like
dirty laundry
in the dorm room.
Yeah.
What?
She what?
Y'all, you know what?
Y'all still in contact?
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
You let it go by the wayside, huh?
You know time.
You know how time is.
You know how time. Yeah, that time is. You know how time.
Yeah, that's a good story.
Time ain't our friend.
Yeah.
Time ain't our friend.
But you know, back then, Ocho, you know, you could wave somebody down.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Young ladies, I ain't mad at you to pull it over now.
I wouldn't even attempt to flag somebody down now.
Hey, you just, hey, you just choked that one up.
Say, that's one that got away.
But, oh, yeah, man.
Woo, woo.
Boy, those good old days, Ocho.
Those good old days.
I ain't.
I ain't.
Days old, boy.
Listen, my jersey hanging in the rafters, man.
Yeah, man.
I miss those times, man.
The stuff that being some of the homies used to do.
Hey, I got stories.
Listen, I got stories for Dave.
We'll save it for another day after.
I got to make sure I'm able to tell those stories
so there's no like, oh, you know.
You know.
Yeah, yeah.
Listen, let me take my glasses off. Unk, boy, some good you know, you know. You know. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about, listen, let me take my glass off.
Unk, boy, some good ones, boy.
Yeah, I can imagine.
I can imagine.
Boy.
Yeah, we are, hey, Ocho, I didn't have very many fumbles on the field,
but I done fumbled a lot of them off the field.
Yeah.
Yeah, but, hey, hit my, hey, fumble-itis.
Oh, some good days, boy Man, I miss those days
I miss those days, man
Look at Ocho, what a
Man, I don't miss him
I don't miss him
It's cool to reflect on him at times
Ocho, you know sometimes
How you sitting alone
And you just be thinking
You like, damn
Yeah Yeah Oh, you just be thinking, you're like, damn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, you say, oh, well.
Hey, those days ain't never coming back again.
And I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with that on Choke.
Once it's gone, it's gone.
And you know, you got some people,
as you get older,
they try to relive it.
Oh, no, no, no. You can't do that no love once it's gone
once it's gone it's gone leave it leave it for the young folk love is like an eclair yeah once it goes
cold it can't be reheated you gotta throw that away everything everything ain't meant to be
reheated though joe now i know we like leftovers yeah and And sometimes the leftovers taste better than the original meal.
Mm-hmm.
But sometimes,
you say, you know,
yeah, I don't have enough of that.
You're going to throw it in the trash.
Go on and throw it in the trash,
Ocho, let it go.
Yeah.
Sometimes you got to let the hair go with the hide.
You just got to, Ocho.
You just got to.
Mm-hmm.
But hey.
Damn. Damn, Ocho. Like I say, we're're gonna say the story because i got i got i got a funny story to tell man i can't believe my man my homie did this to me man i was like oh man
yeah we're gonna hold on we're gonna hold on to it check this out will smith joined jay balvin
at coachella uh for men in black performance. Will Smith made a surprise appearance on stage with J Balvin
Sunday night dressed in a full Men in Black
suit and sunglasses
performing the title track
to the 1997 film
Men in Black.
Here it comes. We know what it is.
It was great to see Will up there.
He looks like he's having fun.
I'm glad to see
that he's bounced back he seems to be
getting his footing back we all know
what happened a couple years ago
we don't need to relive that
but I am glad to see Will Smith
getting back out there
I think people forgot that Will Smith was
a bonafide rapper turned
into a box office first
TV star with a
Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and then you know box office, a first TV star with Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
Yeah.
And then, you know,
box office, you know,
Men in Black
and some of the biggest,
some of the biggest movies
that Hollywood has ever produced,
Will Smith starred in it.
So I'm glad to see him
getting back out there.
Yeah, most definitely.
It's really good to see Will back.
He was in good spirits
when I saw him.
I think maybe it was last month, maybe a month before last. I saw him at the Inter-Miami match. I went to watch Messi play. I had a chance to sit down and talk with Will Smith for a little bit. He was with Dave Gretman and some of his other people. So that was pretty cool. He was in good spirits then. I'd seen him in 2010. Came by the trailer when I was on Dancing with the Stars. I was on Dancing with the Stars and we talked
for a little bit.
He's a good dude, man. A good dude.
I wish more people, I wish the masses
were able to know who he is outside
of what you see on videos or on
camera or
that's said and
stories that are written about him.
That's what he is.
Real good dude.
Ocho,
now
it's time for Nightcap
After Dark.
And boy, is this a doozy.
Oh.
Nightcap After Dark.
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