Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Caleb Williams Struggles, Chiefs beat Bengals, Cowboys get BLOWN OUT by Saints

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to a loaded week 2 of NFL action, Including the Houston Texans beating the Chicago Bears.  Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs outlasting Joe Burrow & the Cincinnati Bengals, the Dallas Cowboys being blown out at home by the New Orleans Saints & much more!03:17 - SHOW STARTS04:57 - Texans beat the Bears17:10 - Chiefs Beat Bengals42:30 - SAINTS BLOW OUT COWBOYS56:20 - Ravens lose to Raiders01:10:53 - Cardinals beat Rams(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They did a great job of confusing him with their coverages, and they hold on to win 19-13. Big hits in the second half, and he's going to learn Ocho some of the throws, a lot of the throws that he got away with in college you can't get away with them in the NFL

they'll make you pay for them and another thing when you're heading to the sideline you know how like college guys will pull up and let you run on out of bounds they're not going to do that in the NFL because they want an accumulation of licks, they want that to add up. So the first quarter, you might pop right up like that and hurt.

The second quarter, yeah, we're feeling good. But they keep putting enough of them on you on the third and the fourth quarter. And over the course of the season, they're going to add up. Caleb, you got to run. When you make a detour, like you're going out of bounds, Ocho, run four or five and get on up out of bounds. Because they're not playing. They get that close to you, Ocho,

because you don't have the protection of the pocket. You're a runner. You're a running back. They're going to lay wood on you. Ocho, what did you take from this ball game? Listen, I enjoyed the ball game. Listen, Caleb Williams, what he has to do, he has to learn to protect the ball. Learn to protect the ball.

Learn to live to see another play. Some of those deep throws, listen, I like what he's able to do as far as his escapability. Being able to extend plays, trying to make plays down the field to try to get his team into the game, but you can't do it.

You can't do it. Obviously, like college, sometimes some of those receivers were wide open when you're able to dodge the D tackles and the guards that might have gotten through. But these players are covered. Sometimes you throw in a double coverage. Sometimes you

throw him way... He had one throw up. He threw way across his body from the right half all the way back across the field and he got picked. It's not going to work. Sometimes, listen, just throw the ball away and live to see another down.

I mean, other than that, listen, they pressured him. They pressured him a lot. They fooled him with some of the coverages. And other than that, I mean, it was a good game. I actually enjoyed the game because towards the end, the Bears actually had a chance to come back and win. It got real interesting. It was good. I actually enjoyed the game because towards the end, the Bears actually had a chance to come back and win. It got real interesting.

It got very interesting. It's funny how that always works. You know that? You ever notice that? I do. Because the thing is, it seemed like the Texans was going in to put the game away.

Oh, but they're from the ball. They're from the ball, yeah. They're about to go in and go a touchdown, Ocho. They're about to go up two scores. They're about to put the game away. And that's what you have to guard against. Because if you think about it, Ocho, more teams lose games than teams win games.

Yes, sir. There's a lot more losing than winning. Now, we know at the end of the day, somebody's going to have to win unless the game ends in a tie. But you go back and look. You look at it like, okay, this was a direct correlation to why we lost the game ends on a tie right but you go back and look you look at it like okay this was a direct correlation to why we lost the game and you know like you said caleb williams i think he's he has a great he his escapability is unbelievable he can make every throw he just has to understand this isn't college everybody everybody at this level is elite even Even if there's tears to it, but you're talking about the best of the best.

You only got 1,600 men in the world of 8 billion people that do what you do. Yeah. 1,600 of 8 billion. That's a very, very minute percent of men that can play this game at the highest level. And the things you got away with in college, more times than not, nine times out of 10, they'll make you pay for it. And he learned, you know, when you have success doing something,

Ocho, what you want to do, you want to continue to do it that way. Man, I've always, this is the way I've always done it. Okay, now you're at an elite level and they make you pay for that. The Houston Texans, C.J. Stroud was 23 of 36, 261 touchdown. He didn't turn the ball over.

He had three sacks. They did a great job on him. I thought the biggest difference, what I saw from the Houston Texans this week, Texans this week, as opposed to last week, Ojo, is that their inability to run the football. I think Joe Mixon going down with that. I didn't see, did they throw a flag? Because that

was definitely a hip drop tackle. I thought he broke his leg. Yeah. Oh, no. I don't think they threw a flag on that one. His arms were around his waist. His arms weren't No, no, no. That's a horse collar. The hip drop is when you drop your weight down. He dropped his weight down.

That's why I thought he broke his leg. I'm like, oh my gosh. His right ankle got caught up yes yeah but they didn't throw a flag they didn't throw a flag yeah and so i i thought that was the uh their inability to consistently get a run game mojo i thought that really hurt him and put them in a situation and uh you know give the chicago i think chicago has a really good defense i think they're good offensively. They're just young offensively. But defensively, I thought they did a great job of getting after CJ. Nico Collins had an unbelievable ball

game. Stephon was trying to find his rhythm. He really couldn't get to a rhythm. But, you know, you want to find a way to win a ball game. You win. At the end of the day, yeah, we didn't play our best game, but can you find a way to win when you don't have your best stuff? That's what they did.

Clearly tonight they didn't have their best stuff, Ojo, but they still found a way to win. What did you like about what you saw from the Texans? Listen, obviously I like what I saw from CJ Stroud. Man, his poise in the pocket, his veteran, almost like a veteran presence, like a Tom Brady, like a, let me see, who else sits in that pocket. Like they don't care what's around them. And people flying by his head, flying at his ankles. He just right.

They just come and relax as downfield process and whatever he needs to process in front of him. Sometimes he takes the sack, obviously when, when, when there's pressure, but no, the, the maturity that C.J. Stroud has and some of the plays he's been able to make, obviously not being really much of a dual-threat quarterback, but being able to escape the pocket

when he'd be in extended plays was really good tonight. Obviously, he didn't have the passing that he would like. Nico Collins made some really good plays, some run-after kick. And other than that, Tank Dale tried to get in the rhythm. He wasn't as effective tonight. The same with Stephon Diggs.

But they're going to have eight days. As Nico Collins continues to put up yards and have games like he did today, obviously come next week, okay, you know what we're going to do? We're going to double him. And then here goes Tank and here goes Stephon having a day. So teams are going to have to pick their poison, but as

long as CJ's route is playing like he's playing, not turning the ball over, being able to facilitate and get the ball to the players that are open instead of forcing the ball like Brother Caleb Williams was doing tonight,

they're going to be all right. And basically, to me, C.J. Shroud is basically just picking up where he left off last year. Yeah. Just picking up where he left off last year. You know, I think the thing is, Ocho, when he doesn't throw for 300 yards like he did last year every game, they're like, oh, man, he in a sophomore slump.

No. I mean, teams are better prepared for him. He's doing a great job of not turning the ball over you got to pick and choose your battles okay i'll take a sack here i'll throw the ball away there the one thing i can't do is put my teams in harm's way as long as i don't put my team in harm's way i'm gonna make you beat me that if you go back and look at the patriots what did the patriots make you do they made you beat them tom not going to put the ball in harm's way. They were not going to have a whole lot of costly mistakes. Now, they have a bunch of penalties, Ocho. You know penalties.

They'll get you beat too now. I think they have 11 or 12 penalties. You got to be careful of those. They start to add up. And so a lot of times they come at the most inopportune times. We saw, we're going to talk about your team today, that that one penalty. Look at when it came. All penalties aren't created equal. All

turnovers aren't created equal. A turnover in the first quarter is a lot different than a turnover in the fourth quarter. So, with that being said, I like what I'm seeing. I think, look, I think that Houston, Texas, considering when you look around, all you got to do is pan around the AFC.

The Chiefs right now aren't playing Chiefs football. They're not the dominant team. Cincinnati, 0-2. The Ravens, 0-2. 2. Hey, Texans, 2-0. Yeah. So they're like, hold on.

We feel pretty good with where we sit. Yeah, yeah. Listen, it's only week two on. Now, we got a long season to go. And when you think about it, the way I look at it is you play football in different halves. You got the first half of the season,

September, October, and you got the back half of the season where it's nut-cutting time, where it really counts. And I don't really think football really started until after goddamn Thanksgiving. Well, the thing is the season doesn't start until after goddamn Thanksgiving. Well, the thing is, the season doesn't start until it gets cold. Well, it doesn't get cold in that dome in Houston.

They've already gone to Indy, so they're one up in the division. They got a win over a division opponent, which is Indy. And guess what? Isn't Jacksonville 0-2? Indy 0-2? Who else is in that division?

The Titans. And the Titans? The Titans are what? 0-2? They are? Yeah! Hey, if I'm the Houston Texans, I tell you what, I know it's only week two, but I'd rather be 2-0 than 0-2. Yeah, you're right. Oh, yes, right. They just did beat the Titans today.

Yeah, they just beat them. I got a right. You know, the Jets did beat the Titans today. Yeah, the Jets beat them. And so, you know, I got a two-game lead, don't y'all? I got a two-game lead. And so, I think the Houston Texans, like I said, I like what I saw. I think they're well-coached. They got guys on the defensive line that can get out there, can put pressure.

They're good on the back end. I like Stingley Jr., but because they can pressure you. Danell Hunter, Will Anderson Jr. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got some players. They got some players, Ocho. They got some players that can go get the quarterback and hunt the quarterback.

Mario Edwards Jr., they got guys that can, you know, I mean, and he will bring pressure. He will. D'Amico will bring pressure. But he has a front four that's rotational. And they can go get your quarterback. They can confuse him, cause you some problems. But I like what I see with this team.

But I'm not giving up on the Bears just yet. I think the Bears have a great young team. And I know DJ Moore got frustrated. Oh, Joe, you don't play with a rookie quarterback. You a veteran receiver. You know, hey, you want it how you want it. He's trying to figure things out. It's flying a thousand miles an hour. I done got hit.

First of all, he got sacked seven times. How many times did he get hit? How many times did he have to break four or five tackles in the backfield, Ocho, only to get two yards? So he like, man, it wasn't like this in USC. Yeah. I mean, he gonna be all right, though.

If you watch Caleb Williams play, no matter what you may think, they might be 0-2, but it's promising. It's promising as a quarterback. Being the most difficult position, no, the most important position to play, which is also difficult. As a rookie, he's going to be okay. He has all the intangibles. He has all the tools that are needed to be successful,

which is why even though they're 0-2, there are still glimpses of hope for him and how good he's going to be. All he has to do is be better with the ball and some of his decision-making and not start turning the ball over for no apparent reason at all. Yeah, that's the one thing he's going to have to eliminate because that's what gets you beat, Ocho. Because it's hard enough. I mean, because now you're not even giving yourself a chance

because they're going to get X amount of possessions. Now you create even more possessions for them and less possessions for you, less time of possession for you. And, you know, you're probably going to put them on a short field. So that's something that definitely going to have to be a mindful of Ocho. But man,

what do we got here? Let me pull up. Let's go to the chief. Beat the Bengals as Buckner. Hell no. Hell, hell no. Hell no.

Nah, ain't no, ain't no chief. beat no Bengals. Ain't no. Let's put an asterisk by that. Let's say the refs help too. Let's say the refs help too. Chiefs beat the

Bengals 26-25. Three turnovers wasn't enough to ruin Kansas City at home. They maintained their poise, still managed to put together a balanced attack. They ran the ball for a buck 49. Isaiah Pacheco led the way with 90 yards on 20 carries. Patrick Mahomes only had 151 yards passing.

Plus, he turned the ball over twice. The Chiefs needed a P.I. late to win by one. Since the Bengals drafted Joe Burrow in 2020. They played the Chiefs six times and each team has won three and the average margin of victory is 3.5 points. Taking out the Browning game that they dropped to 2.6. In fact, Patrick Mahomes

and Burrow is the first starting quarterback matchup since 1950 with five straight matchups decided by three or fewer points. Yeah. Hey, that goddamn game was good, boy. It was. That goddamn game was good. You watched it on? Listen, Chad, if you saw

the Bengals-Chiefs game, it was good. Listen, we had about five lead changes within the game. The goddamn Bengals team I saw today, as opposed to what I saw when they played the Patriots last week, was night and day. It was nightots last week, was night and day. It was night and day.

It was night and day. So I'm happy. What I took from it, even though we lost the game because of, you know, it was a P.I. I'm going to say that, Chad. I'm going to say it. At the end of the game, that was a pass interference. Okay, okay. I thought you said it wasn't a P.I.

It was. It was. It was. i know a lot of not i know a lot of bengal fans upset but as a receiver and as a former db that was pass interference yeah in that case you have to do everything you can to not make contact with the receiver before the ball around and do whatever you can to swipe the hands. But it was pass interference. Even though we're upset, it's unfortunate that it always comes. And when it comes to the Bengals, in the Super Bowl, on Logan Wilson, on Cooper Cup, on that fourth down,

always at the end of the game when it matters most, a flag is always thrown when it comes to us for some reason. Offensively, we look good. Yoshi, hell of a game today. I want them to get Jamar Chase a little bit more involved in the game. I want them to get Jamar Chase a little bit more involved

in the game. Chase, you got to keep it cool, baby. Chase, you got to keep it cool. What was he upset about? That wasn't a face mask. He had his shoulder pad. I'm not sure what he was upset about, but he was upset. And that's my first time. Oh, he said, Ashton said he thought it was a hip drop.

Oh, no, it wasn't a hip drop. He just had him by the shoulder pad. That's it. I don't think Chase understood that. Right. You know, so I understand when he watches it back and he actually sees it in real time, he'll understand, you know so i i understand when he watches it back and he actually sees it and in real time he'll understand you know what my bad and other than that the frustration is also building

up on him not as being as productive as he'd like as well huh that's not forget the hip drop you're not getting the catches in the balls you need and deserve. Because I'm going to tell you what they're going to try to do. Let me tell you what they're going to try to do. They're going to try to play with you. Not only are you not getting the production that you're used to, when it comes time to get paid, you know what they're going to say? You ain't got the same numbers?

Man. I know what they're going to say gonna say hell i've been there oh i'm telling you i'm telling you the game that they're gonna play now i'm telling you and i and i'm like i ain't got the same targets either i can i can see i can see it already i already know what they're gonna do oh well you know what we don't think you deserve this because if you look at your numbers it ain't the same as it was you you know, in the previous two years. So we don't really think you should be making top, man. Man, listen. What? Hey, it's a dirty business. Chat, it's a dirty business. I'm telling you.

But even in that situation, Ocho. Yes, sir. You got a whole type. Yeah, Ocho, Yes, sir. You got a whole type. Yeah, Ocho, you got to bite your tongue on that one. You got a whole type. Man, you know how many times late in the ballgame, somebody done done some cheap-ish. Yeah. And you're like, hey, I'm going to get you.

Oh, yeah. I'm going to get you. I'm going to make it look like a play, but I'm going to get your ass. Yeah. I'm going to get you. Yeah. Hey, I'm going to get you like you're an elementary junior. I'm going to get you. Right Yeah. I'm going to get you. Yeah. Hey, I'm going to get you like you're an elementary junior. I'm going to get you.

Right. He was frustrated, though. Yeah. Obviously, I think offensively what they allowed the Chiefs to do is they allowed the Chiefs to dictate where the ball went. Yeah. They allowed the Chiefs to dictate where the ball went instead of putting Chase in positions to make plays.

Now, the plays he did make, it was hot. You know, some of putting Chase in positions to make plays. Now the plays he did make, it was hot. I can live with that. There ain't no impact plays. There ain't nothing splash. His long was 13. I can live with that. Long as there ain't no 30, 40, no broken tackles. We know Chase. We've seen him catch

a routine route and take it to the house. We've seen him out high point somebody and get going. If I can live with four for 35 and all I'm saying is I don't believe these other receivers, I don't believe they can make enough plays to beat me. I know one can.

He can single-handedly beat me. These other guys collectively, no, they can't. They can't make enough plays consistently, Ocho. So I'm going to double him. So if Gusecki and Burton and our junior sample, Mark, if all those guys.

Listen, I know I hear what you're saying, but we have very, very, very, very good depth at the receiver position. Now, we might not be able to beat you, but I think we can make enough plays consistently to be in the game. And that's what you saw today. You was in the game. No, listen, there's no reason for Mahomes to have three

turnovers and we didn't lose that. That ain't turnovers, too. I'm talking about bad. Well, hey, that goddamn Cam Taylor-Britt interception. Oh, no, that was one. Hey, yeah. Hey, that was beautiful, boy. Oh, Joe.

That was beautiful, boy. But worthy. I mean, I just want you to, I just want to know one thing worthy. Where did you think it was? You thought it was Christmas and Santa Claus was going to come down the chimney? Because that was the only way you could throw the ball. Because what you have to do worthy is that you got to stack him. You can't let him be on your hip because he's going to ride you to the sideline and it's going to have to be a perfect throw.

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Go ahead. For people in the chat, for people in the chat, obviously, you know, Worthy is the fastest receiver in the league, obviously having the fastest NFL time of NFL time, combine time of all time. 4-2 and 4-3, I don't think people understand how close that is.

Yeah. I'm talking about in real time and two individuals like this together. This is 4-2 and this is 4-3. Like it's right there. So you you in arm you in arms length and arms reach it ain't like this huge gap i think people people fail to realize that and and and have this

perception that if you run four two oh you just that much faster than everybody else hell all the skill positions out there run four three So, from a technical standpoint, if you 4-2 and I'm 4-3 and I make you bowl all the way around and you ain't making no move, all I'm going to do is just cut you off to the point and ride you to the sideline.

Hey, I'll make you run the loop and I'll be going... I'm going to intercept you right there at the point. Because I know the ball got to be. The ball got to be somewhere between 40 and 44 yards into the four yards from the sideline. Every time

the ball comes out at the same time, it's going to hit at the same spot every single time. Every single time. Listen, you got the win in the phone booth, right at the snap of the ball. You got the win there. People think... Go around people... You're not fitting to run... booth right at the snap of the ball. You got the win there. All that trying to go and go around people. First of all,

you not finna just run the loop and be the 4-4 or 4-5 guy because he knows he's going to intercept you. Look at Rebus. Rebus ain't run no 4-4. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, he was so technically sound though.

And his, not ball control, his ball skills. Oh, yeah. Were elite. Once you get to a certain point, he get his eyes back. He got that arm bar right at your hip so it can feel where you at. Man, listen. He gonna ride you to the sideline. Because if you look at the way Revis was built,

he's long arm. So in other words, his leg, and most athletes, black athletes potentially, have longer legs and shorter torsos. Yes, sir.

He arms are extremely long. Yes, sir. So when you look at him, if you go look at pictures of Revis and look how, for a guy his size, look how long his arms are. Yeah. And if you notice at him if you go look at pictures of revis and look how for a guy his size look how long his arms are yeah and if you notice something about revis he never went for the first move oh man listen a chat let me let me tell y'all something right here hey chat listen to me

revis had the patience of sally may i i bullshit you not revis had the patience of Sally Mae there was one receiver one receiver when Revis was in his prime that was able to get him on a consistent basis and that was Stevie goddamn Johnson yeah like a big receiver

a big receiver was always going to have problems with him you needed to have quick see I'm surprised you didn't have more success but I think because you weren't have more success, but I think because you weren't as physical as you needed to be. No, no, no, no. If a big receiver that don't have quick twitch, he's going to eat you up. Oh, you're done.

He's going to eat you up. Done, every time. He's going to eat you up. But here's the thing, Ocho. People look at it and they think it's just speed that makes Tyreek so good. Tyreek has learned how to run the route tree. If Worthy, if the Kansas City Chiefs want to maximize what Xavier Worthy can be, he's going to have to run slant routes.

He's going to have to run out routes. He's going to have to run unders. He's going to have to run digs. He's going to have to run comebacks because everybody knows first of all, it's a lot it takes a lot to slow that speed down, don't you? Yeah, hold on, that's the whole thing. I'm glad you just said that. I'm glad you just said that because Worthy doesn't even

have to run full speed. They already scared of you anyway. All you got to do is exaggerate. Exaggerate your running motion under control because once you come off the ball, they're getting the F up out of there anyway. Learn how to set up the slant.

Learn how to set up the dig. Learn how to run the curl. Get the illusion that you're running fast when you're really not, so it's easy to transition. Yes. Man, come on up. You ain't got to tell me.

I wish I could sit down and talk to him. It's like, okay, tell me what you're thinking. Okay, you got this route. Tell me what you're thinking. Yeah. Okay, look at him. He's outside. He's head up.

He's inside. How are you going to process it when you come out the huddle? How are you going to run it? What are you thinking? Yeah. Now, also, with your alignment and this film, what else can you run? Because you got to be able to play. You got to

be able to play with your splits. Because if you line up with the same, them DB, they know what you're doing. They know what you're doing. They done studied film. So if the ball to the left has and you two yards on the outside of the number, hell, it's only two or three things you finna do.

Yeah. Yes. Yes. I know. So you're going to have to play with your splits. I mean, and they're going to be watching. If all of a sudden you're on the right side, if you normally, like most people, a lot of teams,

like when we were growing up, if you was on the left side over here, you put your left foot back. You're on the right side, you put your right foot back. Okay. Now, when we run that bang, we want the inside leg up. Yeah, it gotta be seven steps. Oh, but hold on.

You don't normally do that. Right. Hey, watch that glance. Watch that bang route. I see alignment. That ain't what you normally do. Calling it down, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, he like, oh, Sharp, you ain't what you normally do calling it down yeah oh he like oh Sharp you ain't your 50

run around cause you ain't got no pressure on that hand you right Ocho I'm saying like I told you how the veteran DB's I never forget Aaron Glenn Aaron Glenn told me hey hey boy, I know every time you finna get the ball

because you come to the line of scrimmage and you do your glove like this. You pull him tight and you restrap him. I'm studying everything. And every time he was right. But he told, A.D. told me after the game, I know when the ball come at 8-5, you tighten your glove, you do like this, and you come to the line of scrimmage, and you restrap every time. Don't give

no keys. I said, God damn. We watched everything. Because a lot of times, just like anything else, I mean, you have a dominant leg that you want to push off of. So do D-Lyman. They have

a dominant leg they want to push off of so if i all of a sudden if you even more times than not if you even okay you're gonna drop in coverage are you playing the run but if you stagger that stance right oh you're trying to get off the rock so i think that's the thing with worthy if that's if i can share any information to him you're gonna have to start you're gonna have to do something other than him, you're going to have to start. You're going to have to do something other than go deep. You're going to have to learn, okay, off this stem, I can also run X, Y, and Z. I just don't have to run the goal route.

And you have to play with it because, I mean, you line up tight to the numbers. You ain't running no damn goal from there. Right. It'll take you all day. He's going to be good, though, he's going to be good though. He's going to be good. Yeah. You know how Andy Reid is,

how creative he is when it comes to using players, you know, especially to their strengths. Yep. But when Worthy can, whatever his weaknesses are, once he can make, take those weaknesses

and make them, they don't need to be his strengths, but make them good, then he becomes that much more valuable and the playbook for him opens up exponentially i would go you know what i would do ojo uh-huh i would go to the film department yeah i say go give me every tape you got on tyreek hill every catch that's it yeah every

every practice tape every game every game tape I'm going to study Tyreek Hill. When I got into this business, Ochoa, and I knew I was going to be interviewing people, I asked Eric Mann, the guy that I love, that I love this interviewing style and I'm nothing like because he trained in this, was Ed Bradley. I said, give me every interview

Ed Bradley did at 60 Minutes. They got me about 40 hours of interviews of Ed Bradley did at 60 Minutes. They got me about 40 hours of interviews of Ed Bradley. Yeah. I love Matt Lauer's interview style. I studied him. Go study people. Xavier Worthy, the comparable to you with speed-wise is Tyreek.

He played in that system. You're going to be running a lot of the same routes. It's the same system. The same coach that drafted Tyreek drafted you. The same way Tyreek came in as kind of like a gadget guy. He would come in and give him a package. You kick returner, punt returner,

but they had a package of plays for him because he had too much feed not to try to get the football in his hand. But he taught himself how to run the tree. Now, he's going to run his way all the way to camp. I'm not saying Xavier Worthy can do

that, but I believe he can be a very, very valuable cog. That's the guy I'm studying. That's the guy I'm watching. That's what you do, Ocho. I mean, I've watched tape of Todd Christensen, Ozzie Newsome, and Kellen Winslow. Those were the guys that I watched.

I didn't study anybody else because their skill set didn't fit what I did. Their skill set. Big Kellen, Ozzie, and Todd Christensen. Their skill set fit my skill set. I was like, damn, I like them. Ozzie was a wide receiver. Kellen played with a tight end. Todd was a wide receiver at BYU.

I said, okay, that's what I need to study. That's what I need to do. That's what I offer. That's the advice I would offer Xavier Worthy. But I'll say this one more time, Mocho. The Bengals need to be careful. What happened? Because if you notice, they always talk about we're beat to beat that team.

What happens when you don't come up against that team in the playoffs? Then what? You know how they say somebody, oh, we built to beat X, Y, X team, Ocho? But what if you come up against W? And you don't see X? We'll probably win. I think, you know what I think it is? From a personnel standpoint, I don't know what it is about why we play so well against the Chiefs

despite the turnovers. If we could have got more points out of those three turnovers, I think we could have actually not blew them out. I don't want to use the word blowout. Because y'all play coverage. Because y'all can get pressure with your four, and you drop seven in coverage. They ended up benching the left tackle because he was

so bad. You see, this is what I'm talking about, Ocho, this is what I'm talking about with football IQ. But the Chiefs left tackle? Chiefs left tackle number 76, I can't remember. I saw him complaining too. You saw when the person that The guy that called the touchdown pass replaced him. Got hands to the face,

yes. Yeah, and he on the sidelines talking about, see, y'all took me out of the game. Yeah, they took you out of the game because you about to get Patrick Mahomes' head beat in. Ocho. Yeah. This is what I know. When you're helping, when the left tackle, right tackle, they're always

going to ask, Sharpie, what are you doing? Garrett Zimmerman never wanted me to, he didn't want me to touch the guy. Right. Because he said, Sharp, I'm going to set

a certain way. He called me Sharpie. He said, Sharpie, I'm going to set a certain way. If you hit him, I might overset him

and then you push him inside. Right. Or I might expect something. So he didn't want me to touch him. Yeah. He was one of the few people, one of the tackles

I played with, he did not want you to chip. He's setting a certain way. Right. But a lot of guys, I was like, he did not want you to chip. He's sitting a certain way. But a lot of guys, I was like, okay, I got you here. I got you outside. Which means you can sit as heavy as you want to inside. Because I got you protected on the outside. Pacheco is coming to chip on his outside.

He over-sets him to the outside, and Hendricks goes inside. He says, I was like, you got to be kidding me. I'm like, bro. I'm just, I said, I mean, I just want to know what your report card say. Did you get an F or you? Was it satisfactory or unsatisfactory? Because I'm confused right now, Ocho. Satisfactory.

I mean, he got, he got, he got. You know the back, the back is coming. I know they told him. Because you look at Pacheco, he checks, he goes wide. He's going to chip him. If he comes up the field, Pacheco's going to chip him back onto the tackle. Right. Just don't, just don't over set outside and give him a free round.

Because guess what? Henderson sees that. Oh, hook him P checko oh you said why oh i'm going inside right away that's what i'm saying guys with iq know where you help hey i'm asking hey what y'all doing because i needed to know because sometimes the tackle had to step down to secure the gap with the guard i needed to know that because now that's going to impact my stance. Do I sit, do I take a hard step inside or can I sit outside?

Hey, they're going to let me know. They're telling me, we say Gilligan. That means Shannon, you on an Island. Yeah. You by yourself. Oh,

okay. You're on your own. I got now. This is why I've been listening, but I got it. I got to use these muscles on him now. I got to use these muscles on him I gotta use these muscles on him so what I'm gonna do

I'm gonna quick set him cause he's not anticipating me being there right so once I quick set him and I get locked in he ain't going nowhere are you trying to beat him to the punch I'll beat him to the punch because he's not anticipating me pass blocking I mean you see me oh I know you

going out for a route. So you're just going to do your thing because you think you got to tackle. Bam! I'm right there. But just, guys, just understand where your help is. That'll eliminate a lot of the problems.

Just understanding where your help is. Where you're vulnerable. You're not going to beat me where my strength is. I got outside. I'm sitting outside. I'm sitting heavy outside. You know what? I think a lot of players, a lot of teams

are still gelling. You can practice all you want. You and I have said it all the time. You can practice over and over and over, but once you get into a game, it's different. Sometimes you forget things, things that you don't naturally do in practice. You be extra.

You're doing stuff you don't normally do. In practice, you do it in the game. I think by the time, especially when it comes to offenses, offensive lines, by the time they get to week four and week five, I think everybody will be in rhythm and have some type of continuity to where the offense is flowing

and it's running like a well-oiled machine. Ocho, you know Mike only had us do two minutes at the end of practice? Yeah, we did two minutes at the end of practice too. When you dog tired. Bingo. He said, i know when it's fresh you're gonna be thinking he said i want you to talk tired i want you exhausted that's what i want you to think because that's going to be the difference in the game can you think under pressure can you think under fire you know there's a move i think denzel was in the courage under Fire. Yeah. The question is, can

you think under fire? Like you said, you get tired. Lombardi said, fatigue will make cowards of us all. Oh, yeah. Okay. Now I'm tired. Can I still think I got hot? Okay. I'm protected. Okay. I got chill. I got this. I got that.

That's the thing. Guys get tired. They just forget everything. No, bro. It's more to it than that. That's the thing. Guys get tired. They just forget everything. No, bro. It's more to it than that. That's too many hell, boy, when you're tired. Hey, listen. When you're on an 11, 12-play drive, that's a little extensive. Let's say eight or nine-play drive.

Man, five or six. Man, you're running routes. You got to realize, run it routes. Ain't like you run the whole bunch. It ain't like you run the whole bunch. Even if you run the shallow cross, they throw you the ball. You gain 10. They throw you the ball again. You gain 8. And now you run a clear route.

Man, I'm blown. That lactic acid done built up on that second catch? And then they go, hey, we're going to start out in two minutes. Going to go get them tired. I'm like, hell, we're going to talk about, hey, we're going to start out in two minutes. We're going to go get them tired. I'm like, hell, we're going to be tired too. Somebody running against them.

You make it seem like they don't. And me. Oh, Joe. The Saints scored touchdowns on six straight possessions and on their way to a 44-19 blowout over the Cowboys. The Saints offense has scored 91 points in two games. Through three quarters, the Saints averaged a little less than 10 yards per play. 35 points allowed is tied for the most given up through the first two quarters.

They tied us because we put 35 on their ass in 98 at the half. Last year, the Cowboys allowed 35 points in just one game. Carr was hardly touched. Neither was Alvin, who scored four touchdowns. Let's take a listen to what Dak had to say after the embarrassing loss. That's simply why you can't listen to other people's opinions and read with you guys right respectfully. I mean, yeah, you know, y'all may have put this team on a high

more than we should have been, and now we just simply have got to reset. We've got to respond. We're not going undefeated. You know, I mean, hadn't been done in 50 years. Woo, surprise. So it's about getting back to it and finding a way to respond to put the best team on the field next week. Hey, I tried to prepare you for this, Ocho.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I told you, I said, Ocho, I'm going to let you go, but I want to say this. Yeah. We talk about the Cowboys. We'll start with the defense. I said, look, I wasn't really that impressed with the Cowboys offense last week. I said they got a punt return and they got, you know, a couple of turnover to put them on short fields.

I say the defense looked really good, but I say I would really like to see them if they had the starting tackles in there. I say, because what happens if you, if you can hold up, I guess we got to answer. I did not hear Michael Parsons name call. I did not hear D law name call. When you I did not hear D-Law's name called. When you go in and out, Ocho, do you know how hard it is?

I want you to explain to the fans because I'm going to let you take it over and I'm going to follow up after you. Can you explain to the fans how difficult it is? Our listeners, our viewing and our listeners that's going to listen to this on audio. Can you explain to them how difficult it is to score six touchdowns on six straight possessions in an NFL game? Wait, hold on. Forget an NFL game. Do you know how difficult it is to score six touchdowns

on six possessions in Madden? In a video game. If you're playing someone that's good. It's very difficult. So the fact that this is Derek Carr. This is the same Derek Carr that the Raiders let go. Right? That's the same Derek Carr, right? Look completely different

today. Rasheed Shaheed, is that how you say his name? Yeah. Rasheed Shaheed, Chris Olave, and that goddamn Alvin Kamara, they look like a completely different same team today. I don't know and I don't want to butcher anybody's name.

Whoever the right tackle and the left tackle are, for the New Orleans Saints, they deserve a pay raise. Oh, they did a number on them. There wasn't no stunt, no nothing. They barely got to goddamn Derek Carr and was able to pressure him. Tayson Hill, Swiss Army knife, he coming out the backfield, he at quarterback doing quarterback sneaks.

I mean, everything worked today. Everything worked. If I'm not mistaken, the Saints didn't punt. I could be wrong. Nine minutes in the third, fourth quarter. Nine minutes. Was it third or fourth quarter? Fourth. Nine minutes into the fourth quarter.

That's, I mean, it's I'm sure it's happened before, but come on, man. I don't know. I didn't expect it to happen to the Cowboys. Again, one thing that the Cowboys always do, they have a game like this. Maybe not them allowing

a team to score 35, but they're going 12-5 the last, what, three years in a row? Yes. So this is one game down. I'm assuming, knowing them and the way they bounce back after a loss, they're going to look completely different next week, and everybody's going to be back happy. They couldn't stop.

Look, Derek Carr was 11 of 16. 243-3 touchdowns a pick a sack he had a 99 99 QBR Alvin Kamara has some of the best balance I've ever seen you think you got it you better wrap all the way up

he is phenomenal playing through contact 20 rushes 115 3 touchdowns uh they had 40 39 carries a buck 90 uh i i i just don't know i don't know what i don't know what that was today because the saints did whatever they want they got whatever they wanted and as much of it as they wanted. That's embarrassing. That's embarrassing.

Do y'all, I mean, the Cowboys defense should be, look, Dak didn't play well. And this is not all on Dak. And people are like, well, Sheridan, you think that's all Dak's fault? No.

But you're allowed to match what the opposing offense, when, guess what? When the Saints score, when they kick it off, Dak is allowed to go score now. And you know what? That's the type of game I thought it was going to be at the beginning.

That's the type of game I thought it was going to be. I thought, you know what? I say, man, boy, this is looking to be, it's going to be a shootout. Yeah. The Saints score, the Cowboys score. Okay, the Saints score. Okay, the Cowboys score. I was expecting, you know, both teams to put up 40, 42, 35.

That's what I thought it was going to look like. Turnover, interception. And then they were capitalizing on those turnovers. Oh, they didn't kick no field goal. They scored touchdowns. Touchdowns. Now, if my Bengals could have done that today. Yeah.

Shit. But the Cowboys need another could have done that today. Yeah. Shit. But the Cowboys need another receiver. All they got is C.D. And you see when they started doubling C.D.? You see how difficult life got with that? Yeah. Yeah. But you know what I like?

You know what I like about what the Cowboys do with C.D. Lamb? What? They move him all around. In three by one, they'll put him at the three. In three by one, they'll put him at the two. Sometimes he'll be on the outside. Sometimes he'll be on the put him at the three. In three by one, they'll put him at the two. Sometimes he'll be on the outside. Sometimes he'll be on the opposite side as the X.

So I like, even though they try to double him, they move him around so much, it makes it difficult. If you think about it, Ocho, after he got that long touchdown run, he only got one more pass. Yeah. I hate when that happens.

You think you about to have a bomb day. A day. I already got me a long tub. I done got me about 90. I done got me a 90. It's the first quarter. I'm like, yeah, I'm adding up in my head, Ocho. Okay, that's about 50.

That's at least 150, 180, two tubs at the least. And the fact that you just said that, I don't know if we're getting to the Kyler Murray game today. Remember what I said about Marvin Harrison Jr. yesterday, last night's show? I said he is going to go off. It's just the way the NFL works, I don't know how to explain it.

But he went crazy in the first quarter. And I sent out a tweet. I sent out a tweet and said, I guarantee you even though he's on fire like an NBA Jam character, they're going to stop going to him. And lo and behold,

I think the stat line might have been the same at the end of the damn game. It was. He only had, I think he had got another target and that was it. They do it every time. I will never be able to understand why it works like that. They just run the time. I will never be able to understand why it works like that. They just run the offense.

And I guess if a defense says, you know what, the rest of the game, we taking Marvin Harrison Jr. out of the game, the offense, the coordinator, allows the team to do just that. I hate when they allow a team to dictate where you go with the ball. I hate it. Force your goddamn will sometime. They got to. It there, Will, sometimes. They got to... This is embarrassing though, Ocho.

You can't get beat like this, man. Hold on. It's only week two. Is it really embarrassing to lose? Yes. Like this week two as opposed to 10 games in, 11 games in, 12 games in? Ocho, you allowed a team to go six for six touchdowns. You said it's hard to do on Madden.

Oh, yeah. It's hard to do in the video game. Well, they just did it in the game. Especially you playing a quality opponent. That's what you told me the Cowboys were. I said that? Yeah. Nah, I said you had a deck. Oh, yeah.

We had a deck. Yeah. That's my boy now. Nah, I said you had a dick. Oh, man, we had a dick. My boy had a twin. Yeah, yeah. Dick, dick. That's my boy now. Hey, y'all must have got separated at birth somehow. Y'all lost contact.

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You know what? This is a good thing, though. You know? It's really not. Sometimes this can be a blessing in disguise. To have a game like this early and get it out the way. To have some teaching tape. To have some film for Mike Zimmer to go over with the defense. Listen,

we can't have this. That. Tober, that receiver. CeeDee Lamb. Z. Go back. Look at the film. Okay, this is what we need to do. Three yards of carry? That's what the Cowboys average, Ocho. Three yards of carry? What you gonna do with that?

It's hard. Sometimes you have games like a carry what you gonna do with that it's hard sometimes you had games like that sometimes you had games like that now watch how they look next week and guess what I mean they didn't run the ball particularly well last week you make it extremely difficult when you become one dimensional

in the NFL you make it very very difficult and what could the Saints do because the Saints could run the ball, yeah. You make it very, very difficult. And what could the Saints do? Because the Saints could run the ball, when they went play action, what happened? Wide open. You see, I mean, think about it.

They could run the ball so well, and when Carr faked that ball in there and he pulled it out, that's quarters coverage. That's what he ran through. That's quarters. Yeah. Safety sitting low?

Yes! That's quarters. Safety sitting low? Yes! That's quarters. But they got a hole because they worried about Alvin Kamara shooting through there. And you know, hey, Shaheed got speed. Oh, he fast now. Oh, man. You see he got up on them horses. And most of the safety look at each other.

I mean, what you want me to do because who I'm blaming is quarters. He ran 25, whatever you want to call it. 88, whatever covers you want to call it. No joke. That's what it was. A quarter cover. Everybody got a quarter to feel. Safety, you got a quarter. Corner, you got a quarter.

Safety got a quarter. Left corner got a quarter. And he ran through the quarters, the safety, and boom. 70 yards, 80, left corner got a quarter. And he ran through the quarters, the safeties, and boom. What, 70 yards, 80, whatever how far it was. Ojo, that's your home opener.

That's your home opener. 80 plus thousand. Woo! You know what they do every week, the Cowboys, they show that view. The Cowboys fans, they lined up to go in. They lined up to go in.

And they open the door and they run it. The Cowboys, the Cowboys. Man, to get beat like that, Ocho. It's bad was it listen I told you I think they're going to be alright I think they're going to be alright

hey get them losses out the way now get them out the way now as opposed to later on in the season and one of them losses caused you to go home. You're supposed to be Dallas. I mean, if you go back and look the last couple of years,

Dallas has been really poor against the rush. And when you allow a team to run the football, they're going to play action off of it. And you're going to have guys wide ass open. I mean, the last time we saw him, the last time we saw them last year against the Packers, what the Packers did.

Ran them off the field. Right down, right down they throw. No, no trickery. Right down they throw. Right down it. Ocho, the Ravens are 0-2 as the Raiders go on the road and win 26-23. This marks the Ravens' fourth loss

after leading by double digits in the fourth quarter since 2022. This ties the Bears for the most in the NFL in that span. The Ravens can only blame themselves for this fourth quarter collapse. The only time Baltimore has started 0-2 in Coach John Harbaugh's previous 16 seasons was 2015. After failing to hold on to a 10-point lead against the Raiders with 12 minutes remaining, Baltimore dug itself into a hole. The Ravens' next three games are against the defending division champs at Dallas, at home against Buffalo, at Cincinnati.

The Raiders had only 48 yards of offense at halftime. Baltimore, but Gardner Minshew and Devontae Adams came to life in the second half. Devontae finished with nine for a buck ten and a touchdown. Yeah. Best receiver in the game right there, boy. Devontae Adams with 9 for a buck 10 and a touchdown. Yeah. Best receiver in the game right there, boy. Devontae Adams.

Greatest. You got to capitalize on that, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. Most definitely. Listen, up 10 with 12 in the fourth, right? Yes. When they say it's a game of inches, this is what they talk about. Not only is the game of inches,

there are one, two, maybe three plays out of what, the 65 or maybe 70 you run? One, two, maybe three plays that make the difference in the game. Yeah. I guarantee if we were to have the time to break

down this film in somewhat of a PowerPoint presentation style to the chat we can show you the one or two or three plays that made the difference in this game on why they were able to come back and win they ran the ball well Derek Henry 18 for 84 Lamar

5 for 45 Hill 4 for 42 27 rushes 151 um zay flower 7 for 91 mark andrews 4 for 51 bateman had 3 for 40 likely 2 for 26 uh lamar was 21 of 34 247 one touchdown one int missed a couple of throws he'd like to have back uh two sacks 15 yards yeah but with lamar jackson mvp as my quarterback and derrick here is my running back i should be able to hold a 10-point lead with 12 minutes to go in the fourth oh yeah absolutely absolutely absolutely i got first of all i got to be i've got to be able to hold that ultra i've got it you know it also comes down to the play calling as well no we're not gonna do that oh no okay okay there you go see what you did so let me ask you

a question when they win the game you don't say nothing about play calling you say that's what players do they make plays right right right right right right right right right i understand what you're saying i'm just saying you know when it comes what would you like okay let me tell i'm gonna take your your argument What would you have liked to see them do more or less? More or less of? In that instance? What would you have liked to see them do more of? And then what would you have liked to see them

do less of? I think they should have run the ball a little bit more. Run the ball a little bit more. It is rare that you see them normally they have more pass, especially because they had to lead to have more passing attempts than rushing attempts.

Bingo. But John Harbaugh said Listen, you brought Derrick Henry in for a reason. But he said he said they did not bring Derrick Henry there to give him 30 touches a game. That's a goddamn lie. And the reason that you didn't bring Derrick Henry. I'm just saying touches a game. That's a goddamn lie.

I'm just saying what he said. Okay, he said that and you lost today. Up 10 with 12 minutes to go in the fourth. In fact, that's when you're supposed to use your Derrick Henry to his advantage. And you don't do it. You try to do something that's really not the way your

offense is built. You're not built to throw the ball goddamn 50 times a game. That's not the type of offense Baltimore is. No. I'm surprised they got that many throws. Can Lamar throw the ball? You goddamn right. Yes. But just to drop back, first down, second down, third down, no.

No. It's not the Ravens. I'm surprised, Ocho, considering. When you go back and look at it, what's the... Hold on. Let me look for something right quick. Uh... What it is?

Considering the time of possession, wasn't that they ended up losing the T.O.P. by over a minute. But when you look at it, that you had a 10 point lead in the fourth and to have more pass attempts than rush attempts, that's not normally the Ravens recipe for success. It's normally the other way around.

More rush, you can see them having 35, 40 rush attempts, and then they'll have 20 to 25 pass attempts. But they threw the ball a lot today, which is surprising. Maybe they saw something.

Maybe they saw like, hey, their corners are the safety. We feel that we can hold up against. Max Crosby going to wreck some stuff. Every time. Every time. I mean, I don't really... The Raiders still play man-to-man. Man-to-man.

Safety in the middle of the field. Cup of three, cup of four. This is what we're running. We're not changing. We're not bluffing. We're not doing nothing exotic defensively. Line up and play. That's the only reason I can think of them

just throwing the ball so much. And going away from the run because there's a safety down in the box. I mean, I like Lamar only had five rushes. I'm okay with that. But those... Because last week I think he had like 10, 11,

12 rushes. Last week maybe had like 14, 15. Yeah. Give Derrick Henry another six or seven carries. So you didn't bring him there for 30? Give him 22 to 25. I can live with that. I can live with that. I can live with that.

I can live with that. But like I said, look, Pittsburgh is the number one in the division at 2-0. Baltimore is 0-2. Cleveland 1-1. Cincinnati is 0-2. And you guys play Cincinnati in the next, I think in the division at 2-0. Baltimore is 0-2. Cleveland 1-1. Cincinnati is 0-2. And you guys play Cincinnati in the next, I think, in the next three weeks, Ocho.

So it's going to be very, very interesting. But like I said, I mean, at the end of the day, you are what you are. You're a physical, physical team. Defense was good. Good corners. I mean Garnett Mitchell was 30 of 38 damn

yeah he was cooking that ooh he was cooking hey man that tight end Brock Bowers

oh he the real deal oh man he legit in fact I'm gonna take my hat off for Brock Bowers boy you the real deal boy

yes yes yes yes he nice Oh, man. He legit. In fact, I'm going to take my hat off for Brock Bowles. Boy, you the real deal, boy. Yes, yes, yes, yes. He nice. He for real, for real. Mm-hmm. Ocho, nine catches, nine targets. Hold on. He going to get open every time. Yeah.

He ain't no slouch. He gonna be nice. I saw him his freshman year at Georgia. I said, this kid could come out now. You could tell, huh? Yeah, hell yeah. Some players just... He can move. Yeah, he can move.

He can drop his hips. He got wiggle. Yes, absolutely. He can play. He gonna be hell. Oh, yeah. He gonna be hell now. But, look, like you said, the Ravens are 0-2, 0-1 at home.

They lose to the Raiders. The Ravens are 0-2. The Raiders are 1-1. Come back, get a hard-fought victory on the road. Make that long-ass plane ride very pleasant coming back home. 26-23, Raiders win over the Ravens, Ravens fall to 0-2. Apparently, it's Kyler Murray's job to get Marvin Harrison Jr. to football. The Cardinals rookie wide receiver followed a one-catch performance

in his NFL debut with 130 and two touchdowns in the first quarter. Kyler completed 17 of 21 passes, 266 yards, and three touchdowns. Kyler also rushed for 59 yards. His touch on the deep throws to Harrison was unbelievable, and Harrison did a great job. That first touchdown wasn't an easy catch, Ocho. Oh, no. That was not an easy catch.

But did you see the difference between what he did and what Likely had against Kansas City? You see what Harrison Jr. do? Go limp. You see how his body just went limp, Ocho? Yeah. It ain't trying to stand up. Go limp.

Yeah. Boom. Now, boy boy this class he and neighbors I don't know if we got to talk about neighbors tonight but Marvin Harrison Jr. for real neighbors are for real too but what did you like because you said

this Ocho you said hey I bet they get him involved tomorrow I mean I just knew it after having a showing the number what number pick was Marvin Harrison Jr.? Like five, four, four. To come out on your debut and have one catch, that's embarrassing, man. Not to him.

I'm saying as an organization in general, not featuring the best receiver. Arguably the best receiver in the draft what what are we doing are we even serious about winning competing not highlighting our new shiny toy so i understood and knew what they were going to do the following week oh they finna feature him or they finna get they finna get him going. Get him some targets. Get him some touches. They did that in the first quarter. And I said, you know what? I sent a tweet out. The chat could attest.

After that first quarter, I said, I guarantee you his stat line look exactly the same in the first quarter as it does in the fourth because they're going to stop feeding him. They do it every time. Because the defense adjusts. Okay, y'all find 18 as soon as you break the huddle. But it's hard, Ocho. We call it not playing our formation.

Wherever 18 line up, we doubling. But, Ocho, they ran the ball 40 times for 231. Why I got to throw it? If I can just put the ball in the guy's belly, he gets here, y'all. And I ain't gotta worry about no tilt passes. I ain't gotta worry about, you know, guys slipping down to get picked. I just turn around and hand it to Connor. And he get five, seven, eight yards.

I'm like, bro, Calum Murray had James Connor had 21 carries, 122 a touchdown. Calum was five for 59. De Mercado, 2 for 46. I mean, I'll tell you what. This is what I used to hear on the defense all the time.

If y'all stop TD, we'll throw it. But if you don't stop TD, we're not going to throw it. At least give yourself a chance. You let this man get 7, 8, 10 yards of carry. You think Mike gonna call a damn pass? Mm-mm. Hey, stop there. Y'all can't stop TD?

We'll throw it. I promise you, if you stop TD twice, we're gonna throw it. Bang on right in there. I mean, Kyler did 17 to 21. I mean, he was, oh man, some of the plays that he made, that one he escaped and threw that strike to that touchdown.

In the back of the end zone? What? And then he found Marvin Harrison Jr. on an escape, rolled it to his left, got it up over the top, boom. I mean, he played phenomenal. That's the thing with Kyler. You see it. You see the guy like, he can do it.

And then sometimes you're like, Kyler, what are you doing? I like Kyler, especially when he run the ball. He look like a little bad little kid. Like a bad little kid running away from you. Yeah. And he take like 700 steps in 20 yards. I mean, it's like, but he be booking it. Yeah, he be out of there now.

I mean, a phenomenal, I mean, think about it. The guy was the number one overall pick in football. He was the number eight pick in the MLB draft. Do you know? They say the hardest sport. I've talked to guys that played both, Brian Jordan, Tyne, played both.

John got drafted in the second round by the Yankees. Say the hardest of the two sports is baseball. This guy went number one overall in football and number eight in the MLB draft. Do you know how immensely talented you have to be to be able to do that? And he won three straight

state titles in the state of Texas, in the biggest division, and he didn't lose a game. I think he lost either one game or he lost no games. Do you understand? In the state of Texas, in the biggest division. Yeah.

Real deal. Texas football is different, bro. Man, you see they're building $40 and $50 million stadiums in high school. They got weight facilities that rival colleges. Where all that money coming from out there, man?

Hell if you and I know. Check where all that money coming from, man, for the high schools in Texas. Hey. Coming from somewhere. Oh, yeah. The more I guess, hey, they're like, hey, I'll take my...

Nah, ain't no baseball talking about it take time to get adjusted. Bruh, they pay you 400 million dollars to hit 250 what other sport that you can fail 7 times out of 10 and make a half a bill what sport tell me the sport

boy mm-mm mm-mm mm-mm but the Cardinals bounced back and they laid a smack down on the Rams 41-10 it was over in the first half the score was 24-3 then all of a sudden

it was like 41-3 41-10 uh the Rams where do they go from here Ocho Matthew Stafford 19-2727, 2-16. Sacked five times. They could not run the football. Blake Horham, 8-28.

Kyron Williams, 12-25. And, if I'm not mistaken, Cooper Cupp got injured. So now, Puka Nakua. Damn. Where did they go? Man, listen. It's only week two. It's definitely too early to hit the panic

button. But you would expect the Rams being who they are to beat the Cardinals. But it's a new year. Yeah. It's a new year. The Cardinals aren't who they were last year and they proved a point today on why

but the Rams got an issue defensively because remember last week the Lions ran it down the effing throats and guess what the Cardinals came back and said we're going to do you one better yeah I mean that's back to back weeks

well they ain't got that boy in the middle now well he ain't coming back he ain't coming back he might you never know no he ain't coming back he like uh like nah he say he don't have the desire

cause when you that you're competing against yourself your younger self they're not comparing Aaron Donald to any current player. Aaron Donald got compared to his younger self. Tom Brady got compared to his younger self. Peyton

Grates get compared to the younger selves. They don't get compared to the players of oh, Tom Brady's playing like this guy. No. Tom measuring stick was a younger Tom Aaron Donald measuring stick is a younger Aaron Donald

and he said the fire to get up and jump out of bed and go train and be that guy that I need to be and that everybody's seen me to be for a decade I ain't got it yeah and not to be and that everybody has seen me to be for a decade. I ain't got it. Yeah. And not to steal and not to take money.

I mean, think about it, Ochoa, because he could have came back, but he's like, nah, I got a standard. Three defensive players a year. Defensive rookie of the year. Eight-time first-team all-pro. Only LT can rival that.

I mean, when you talk about eight-time first-team All-Pro. Only LT can rival that. Mm-hmm. I mean, when you talk about defense, he and LT, I mean, the three defensive players of the year. Right. The defensive rookie of the year. The eight first-team All-Pro in a decade. The only difference, LT got a league MVP. I don't think we'll ever see that again.

I don't want to say never. I hate saying never and always, but the likelihood of a defensive player winning MVP, not defensive player of the year, Ocho, he was the MVP of the entire league. Yeah, that's crazy. That would be

a difficult feat for anybody defensively to get. What, he going to have 30 sacks? He going to have 20 picks? Something. Something like that. I mean, anything's possible. A kicker would in a strike-shortened season in 1982. What you looking for?

I'm looking at the chat. Oh. But, yeah, the Rams, you know, you lose Puka, the Rams, things getting – you know, you lose Puka, who didn't play. Cooper got Nick.

So it's going to be very interesting. You're going to have to run the football. But at the end of the day, Ocho, you got to stop. You got to be able to stop the run. If you can't stop the run, it's hard to win in the NFL if you can't stop the run. As long as you have to stop the run, you got to be able to run as well because play action and being able to run the ball opens up the passing game.

Yeah. I hope Puka's coming back next week. I'm not sure what the extent. Nah, Puka on our. Wait, I thought it was just a hamstring. No, Puka? Yeah. Nah, he got an ankle.

He got a knee or something. Nah, he on our. He ain't coming back next week. Nah, he don't, yeah, he don't have an ankle. He ain't coming back next week. What was the extent of Cooper Cupps' injury? They didn't give an update, but he left. Damn, man. So the Rams fall to 0-2 and the Cardinals are 1-1. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company.

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