Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Carlos Ulberg STUNS Jiri Prochazka for UFC Light Heavyweight CHAMPIONSHIP + Paulo Costa BEATS Azamat Murzakanov + Josh Hokit BEST UFC HEAVYWEIGHT?! + Tyson Fury CALLS OUT Anthony Joshua

Episode Date: April 12, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to UFC 327 Ulberg defeats Prochazka with a knockout to win the Light Heavyweight title, Costa defeats Murzakanov in 3 rounds and Hokum def...eats Blaydes in absolute war and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 02:27 - Ulberg defeats Prochazka18:50 - Costa defeats Murzakanov25:31 - Hokit defeats Blaydes39:35 - Reyes defeats Walker43:10 - Fury defeats Makhmudov, calls out Anthony Joshua Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:28 He got reckless. Yes. He got come, stand right here in front of me. Stand right here in front of me. And he got clipped. And that's the thing that we love about UFC. see, it don't take much. You get clipped, and, hey,
Starting point is 00:05:42 Uberg was on him like a duck on a June bug. Go ahead. Hey, like a what? Duck on a Junebug. Hey, listen, tonight, Unk, I had the opportunity, obviously, to attend most of the fights. I was there for the early fights. I was there for most of the main event.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Obviously, I had to get on the road to be back here at the house to watch the main event. But it was a good fight. I'm not sure exactly what makes me so scared when it comes to UFC. I don't know how much those gloves. They padded, right? Have you ever seen the UFC gloves? Yeah, they're four-ounce gloves.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Four-ounce gloves. Four-ounce gloves. It only takes five pounds of pressure. If you get clipped, you're going down. And everybody has a puncher's chance. And obviously, that's what happened. That was a really, really good fight tonight. And, I mean, now he's a light heavyweight champion.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yeah, that was a bit. Look, I thought all the fights were really good tonight. Even the ones that went to decision. What was your favorite? They were jam-packed. You look at the Blades fight. I don't know how Blaze stood up with some of the shots that he was taking, whole kit, hitting with everything, the kitchen sink, and refrigerator, the bathroom sink.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Hey, hey, he threw everything at him and he stayed up there. He had his face looking like a sloppy Joe, but he stood in there. I mean, so all the fights, we're going to talk about this, I think you saw this bite. Didn't you see, were you there to Paula Costa? Yes, yes. And as a matter of fact, I was talking to Ash on the phone at the time. I said, man, he keep getting them faincy because he was kicking him in the ribs.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And every time he kept doing this. I said, man, fake like you can't go up top. He showed him with the fank. But this was a guy, I thought, I thought Portugal was going to get him. I really did. Especially because he injured, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, how are you going to fight the one?
Starting point is 00:07:33 one thing you look, it's like on the serengetting. Injured and old animals get eaten first. Every time. Every, every single time. And obviously, listen, you had a disadvantage if you hurt, huh? Yes. Especially any, any, your low extremities. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You need that to be able to move. Generate poverty. That's how you generate poverty. That's how you move. Exactly. So, I mean, it's unfortunate. A young bull, I don't know how to, I don't want to butcher's last name, but he was hurt.
Starting point is 00:08:00 He was hurt. Oh, yeah. He was hurt. Yes. absurd. Man, I think this is why people, this is why every event you go, every time the UFC put something on,
Starting point is 00:08:13 not only because of the production, you know what you're going to get. Dana's made it very, I mean, look, you're not going to be fighting. All these decisions, yeah, that's fine and good. The objective is to win.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Well, you're going to have to take that thing somewhere else. Because they don't, people want action. And that's what they got tonight. This was one of the better cars. You know, they ain't have the big name. You see Cubs Swanson makes a, And he late, oh, boy, oh boy. That is one way.
Starting point is 00:08:36 If you're going to retire, that's the way you want to go. That's the way you want to go out. That's the kind of fight. Oh, that was beautiful. And he jumped on him out from gate, out the gate. I knew it was going to be a long night. And that's what, look. And the thing is that what makes UFC,
Starting point is 00:08:54 because there are so many things you have to worry about. You got to worry about a guy fist, his elbows, his knees, his feet. You got, hey, a spinning. spinning back fists or spinning elbow, you got to worry about a guy taking you to the mat. You got a rear neck and choke, a guillotine, a triangle, arm bar, a leg, leg,
Starting point is 00:09:12 I'm like, damn, bro. Boxing, all I got to worry about is the. You can't do nothing else but throw it, the, man, you, hey, and they'll be fine and you do this right here, then come a head kick inside your head. And the funny thing, to me, those that are very skilled,
Starting point is 00:09:29 obviously, all the attributes that you just name, have one or two things that they're really, really good at. They're really, really good at. I don't think there are too many fighters that they have the complete package of every single attribute when it comes to being inside that octagon. But, man, I haven't been to very many fights, but tonight was very, very exciting. It was very exciting.
Starting point is 00:09:50 The energy in the Casilla, the Casilla Arena was unbelievable. With buzzing. It was crazy. My favorite fight, that goddamn Josh Hokit. I was hoping with all the trash talk, all the answers. all the personality. I was hoping it would show up in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, and he backed up every last, every last, he kept, he kept flicking dude off.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I thought, I was like, hold on. Did I, did he do that? Did I say, well, no, maybe, maybe I just imagine that. Nah. I said, oh, he kept, he kept doing it. He kept the entertainment going. So he, he would, to me, if he keeps this up and keeps winning, obviously some people aren't going to like it, he might, you know, play itself into the villain role.
Starting point is 00:10:32 but he can he can make his hay and make his way if he continues this and keeps on winning. Hey, I just, hey, he keeps on fight like that. Everybody's going to love him because people love to see people fight. And when they come to a U.S. feet, I mean, for whatever UFC, I think the expectation is somebody touching the canvas. Yeah. Somebody's going to win.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And we ain't going to, you know, I don't want to put it in the judge's hand. No. Because they might see it one way, one judge see it another way, the fans see it somewhere else. I might have thought my corner might have thought I'd see, had it, had it won. But nah, if I knock your ass out or I choke the hell out you, I guess what?
Starting point is 00:11:09 I ain't got to worry about no judges. At all. Judges, throw your cars in the trash because we don't need them. But this last fight, I mean, like I said, this entire car was really, really good. I don't think you're going to fight anybody to say, oh, man, this car was bulljive. You have to tell you, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:11:24 This is the type of card that you want. I hope $250. at the White House. I just hope it's half as good as this. You know what I think, too, with that White House card, I think it probably hasn't been announced. Obviously, I think, I mean, it's been announced. The fights have been announced.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I'm not sure. I don't think there's a White House card without John Jones on there. But some reason. He ain't going to be on there. You don't think so? No, they already announced the card. I know.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And I think Hokic and Derek Lewis, Blackbeath, got added to the card. For real? Yeah, I think, I think either Dana said something to the fake action was telling me that hey, hey, give me that Dana sound. Take a listen to this chat.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Okay. He said, Derek, the president just asked me why you're not on the card. Do you want to fight on the White House card? And he goes, of course I do. Tell the president, thank you, I want to do it. Then the Hokic card plays out, the fight plays out. He beats the number five rank on in the world.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And Joe Rogan says, is there still room on the White House card, we went back and talk to him. Hokit versus Derek Lewis was just added to the White House card in the last 10 minutes. President Trump built half of that fight, and Rogan built the other half. Both guys have accepted and agreed for the fight. So we're adding one more to the White House. Hocet versus Derek Lewis. Pretty badass how that played out organically during the fight.
Starting point is 00:13:05 That's dope. But you see what they just did? You see how they added to the card? Because they have the power to do so. For some reason, I don't know. As great as the White House card is, with some great fights, adding John Jones to that card would do numbers. They're going to do numbers anyway.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I'm just saying I'm not sure what difference is. Dana White and John Joe need to fix, but I think he needs to be on that White House card to make it complete. To make, to my understanding that they had a number that they were willing to go to to get John Jones on that fight? And he wanted over that number. And the one thing I, listen, I've been around Dano a lot. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I've interviewed him and been around him. When he says this is the number we're going to, you ain't getting a penny more than that. You're not. But, hey, we talk about the greatest UFC fighter of all time. The only person, I mean, how do we not give him what he wants based on what he's done, based on his resume, based on the accolades? They don't give anybody what they want.
Starting point is 00:14:04 that's the whole purpose. Right. They bought a company, they bought a company for $2 million and sold it for $7 billion. Do you do that by giving somebody what they want? No. The fans what they want.
Starting point is 00:14:17 The fans won't action. The fans won't fights. Now the one thing you're going to get, well, Dana will do this. Dana will give you the best fights out there. You ain't ducking. Nobody. You can't.
Starting point is 00:14:29 You can't. There's no shit about because guess what? There's only one champion. It ain't no WBC, WBA, I be, I be, you know, I be, I'll be, whatever the case may be, ring magazine, you got one champion. Okay, you fighting. Ain't no, well, I fight the WBC, I'm going to try to unify the bill.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And ain't but one bill. Right. Ain't no unifying nothing. You fighting. Right. We like that. We like that. I thought, I thought John was going to be on, hell, I thought John was going to be on the country.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Look, it's celebrating America's 250th anniversary. Yes. You want some Americans they're on the damn card to win. Yeah. How are they going to look at hell and it's America's celebration and we get in our ass kick?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah. Listen, I know there was some indifference when it comes to the purse, but for some reason, I just feel. What's the date for that card, matter of fact? June 14th.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Well, we're in March right now, right? We're in April. You're about two months away. Oh, you think John Jones is training? You think? Hell, I don't even know who he would fight. I don't know. I don't know either.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I just don't see how you can have the best, you know, even just meet him halfway. If you can't get to what he wants, meet him halfway. At least make it make sense for him to actually say no. Okay, if we can't get to the number I want, don't give, don't send me a number that disrespectful based on who I am and what I've done. Yeah. I don't know. Like I said, I just heard that. I don't know it could be somebody put out some information that. We tried to make a number.
Starting point is 00:16:09 It was a big number. As much money he's ever made. Yes. He turned it down. And look, unless I hear John Jones said or I didn't hear, it didn't come from Dana. Because Dana said John Jones was never going to be on the fight. And then Ariel, Halloweenani, said that, yeah, they had been negotiating. And even John said, well, if I was going to be on the fight, why were you negotiating negotiating with my
Starting point is 00:16:32 went to my team. Mm. So I really don't know what the number was. Nobody ever said a number. Right. But look, I mean, they just, but I think the thing you got to understand, Ojo, adding, adding, adding two fighters that's going to probably make two, three hundred thousand dollars versus somebody wanting 25, 30, 40 million dollars.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Ooh. See, Darylides the problem. And then who you're going to fight? Ain't nobody going to say, well, oh, he's making 30 million and you're going to pay me two million? Right. So now, so I don't know. I mean, hey, I'm going to watch either way.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yeah. He's on the phone card. I'm watching. If he's not on the card, I'm watching, hey, what we do. But go ahead. I'm excited. I enjoyed it. Kevin Holland, I was able to go see Kevin Holland backstage and talk with him for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I'm flying in Houston tomorrow morning and doing the Fury fights, lower level, lower level fights down in Houston. And Kevin, Kevin Holland and I, we're streaming tomorrow on Twitch, you know, around. around three o'clock. So that's going to be interesting. So I get to watch some of the fighting down out there. Some of the fighters trying to get to the next level, trying to make it to the UFC.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I'm going. I'm a highlight what they're doing in their journey and the process and what they go through mentally and physically, you know, as they prepare for those fights and trying to reach the UFC. That's what I call the Promise Land. So I'm excited. Hey, you guess who I, guess who I met tonight too, huh?
Starting point is 00:17:58 Who? And they, they, they, oh, so. you're one hell of a player, man. Who you met? Man, hey, Ash. You can hear you. Man, man, I met 45th, man. Good deal.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I asked him for a job, too, huh? I thought President Trump was six, too. Nah, well, you got to, I'm six-four, huh? So, you know, he's short. Man, stop. Yeah. I've met him before. I made him about a fight at Madison Square Garden
Starting point is 00:18:49 many, many years ago. But that was a great fight. Ulberg is the light, heavy with Chabby, being Yuri, Porchikov, Porchazka, the first round,
Starting point is 00:19:01 Keo. I still don't know how he did it. Because when they showed the replay, Ocho, man, that joke of calf, man, I don't know if he tore his calf, if it was a key leaf,
Starting point is 00:19:10 if it was, I don't know what it was. But I was like, well, I said, let me go ahead. I told last year, I said, let me go and start changing
Starting point is 00:19:15 because this fight ain't going to be long. And I've been damn. If I didn't hang up, he'll clip them, and whoop. That's all to take. Oh, yeah. You can't get reckless.
Starting point is 00:19:26 You can't get reckless. You got to stay on your, you got to stay on your peas and cues. You got to be disciplined. You got to be disciplined. And speaking of discipline, the two fighters that didn't have none at all and kept, I mean, face wide open when Josh Hokit, and I can't remember young boys named that it was fighting. Oh, Blades. And Blaze.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I mean, where's the damn defense? And you can hit, you can hear the punches. You can hit, you can hit a punches. I'm sitting close enough and you can hit a bone like the bone. I'm like, oh man, come on, man. I mean, at least put your hands up and block something. He was blocking it with his face. Orcho, you're crying after telling Rogan that he showed Carlos mercy because he knew he had
Starting point is 00:20:08 already won by injuring his leg. Man, I don't show no mercy? Mercy. They don't, they don't. They don't do that with a sledgehammer. They don't do that in octagon. You never show mercy. What do you talk about?
Starting point is 00:20:20 is kill or be killed. Period. Until the bail sounds or the referee said the fight is over. There's no such thing is mercy. I ain't showing nobody, no mercy. You look at them to say what they do. Hey, it's killed.
Starting point is 00:20:35 You and the Serengetti. That's where you are. Man, that's a, man, you got to have a different type of mentality going there. It ain't no mercy. That ain't my job to have mercy. Right, right, right. The mercy, that man upstairs, he got mercy.
Starting point is 00:20:52 That's it. Lord have mercy, what I'm about to do to him. He injured to? I'm trying to show enough, F him up. Every time. And the funny thing about it, the mentality to even be a fighter, the mentality you have to have to even get in the octagon is killer be killed. Yes. So I'm not sure why he even used that excuse.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Maybe in a sense of sportsmanship, okay, he's hurt. You know what? All right, I'm a tail off a little bit. No, I ain't telling nothing. I'm a tell off, hey, I might not be dancing over you. Right. But I'm going to finish your ass. Because you see what happens when you let me.
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Starting point is 00:26:02 uh, uh, Muzokanov, Muzakov, Muzmar Zakov. Uh, in the 123 in the third round with the right head kick. Costa went on into the contest of betting underdog,
Starting point is 00:26:14 but looked like the favorite. By round three, it was clear. Uh, his opponent was gassed, possibly injured, and he was willing to, uh,
Starting point is 00:26:22 sitting target for Kossi, He was cost to the second straight win as an underdog. He defeated, he beat Roman in July of last year. Hey, listen, they got to keep, they need to stop making cost to the underdog. Maybe that's the problem. Oh boy, but oh boy, he was pretty tough though, Ocho. Yeah, he was, he was nice. He was pretty tough.
Starting point is 00:26:44 But, hey, man, them leg, eh, them head kicks, bro. Hey, he was kicking him in the side, pop. Damn it, damn there three in a row. It looked like three. in a row? I was like, well, damn. And you see the thing is, and then when you, he tried, you thought he going to kick you and you do this, now you bring your head right there for that foot to go upside it. Wob-B-B-B-B. Hey, would you ever get in there? Let's say if your body was, no, I'm just saying if your body was okay, no hip replacement, no knees, nothing wrong with you,
Starting point is 00:27:12 just for the experience. No, I got hit upside by head for 14 years, and then another four in college, and then another four in high school, and then another three in P, we, no, hell, hell, No, I'm good. Hey, you know what? I would. I would. I mean, I think, I think I am. I think it's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I'm going to make sure I'm going to have some nightcap, nightcap trunks, nightcap on my gloves. It's going to be, it's going to be fun. Just to be able to say, I did it. No, I don't want to say I did it. I didn't do it. That's what I was saying. I didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Hey, just make sure you ring side, man, that's all. Man, look here. You ain't, you, I mean, look at Ocho, you are in your 40s. and you ain't did no combat training like that. Boxing is one thing. And you see, even Blaze and the other, if Blaze could have took, Blaze in the clinch, he don't do no kneeing.
Starting point is 00:28:03 He couldn't keep the guy down. He took the guy down. He couldn't keep him to keep him down. Because he ain't got no wrestling skills. All he was a striker. Nah, hell, no, that's too much going on, bro. But this was, hey, look, and like I said, the fights just got better and better
Starting point is 00:28:18 because they started, hey, they got better and better. They got better and better. Hey, that's what I'm paying to see. That's what I'm paying, even though it's free now on, on, on, on, on, on, on, that's what I want to see. I want to see knockouts. I don't want to see all that feeling out, all that dancing and holding and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Choking. Make him call, make him say uncle or knock his ass smooth to L-F-out. That's what I'm here for. I have no problem. That's why I didn't have any problems paying for UFC fights. Right. Because I'm, I think there's a better than fidget percent chance that somebody of all the
Starting point is 00:28:55 put people on the car don't you, somebody going to sleep that night. You're going to get some action. I'm going to get some action. No matter what. And that's all I want. Hey, give me my, you know, 59, 79 or whatever I was playing for back there. Give me my money's work. That's what I want. I don't want all that stuff. They're feeling each other out and oh, you know, it's a, it's a, styles make fights, it's the sweet science. I don't want
Starting point is 00:29:15 nothing sweet. I want it sour. Ain't none of that. Ain't none of that in MMA were. Hell, hell, nah. But you better, hey, you better, hey, you better be able to wrap. But the thing is, Ocho, is that when you get, and a lot of this is that when you get tired, you can't protect yourself. You can't keep your hands up, your jaw drop, and so now you don't got that tension.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Now, you still could get knocked out when you got that teeth and when you got that mouthpiece and you bite out on it. But boy, when that jaw get loose, it's going to be broken. You start breathing out your mouth, yeah. That's how you know, everybody's tired. Once they're not breathing out their nose. Five more minutes, Mama. Then the referee asks you,
Starting point is 00:30:00 hey, you jacked with cowboy boots. Back to sleep, you go. Hell no. Hey, but Carlton did it. 123 in round three. Head kick. And then he jumped on him in that, hey, he really got a chance.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I mean, he jumped over a little bit, but oh boy, side down. Oh, you see him? Oh, boy, sid down. Like, nah, this ain't for me. You got me. This ain't for me. This ain't for me.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Next time. Maybe next time. Maybe next time. But this one right here, you got this one, man. Hey, and can I tell you something? Hey, Chad, I'm sure you all can hear me. I'm sure we have a lot of UFC fans in the chat. And I don't want to say a name, Unk.
Starting point is 00:30:45 But tonight I was told one of our favorites. One of our favorites that we've all loved to see is fighting July 11th. He's coming back to the ring. I don't, just, come on now. The greatest. The best charisma. The best marksman. O'Connor McGregor?
Starting point is 00:31:05 Man, hey, come on, man. July, July 11th. Okay. I hope, I, I, I see him fight. Hey, I'm, I will be, hey, hopefully, a boy getting taken down to a, old Joe. We, we, he, his ground game is not good. He's a pure striker, huh?
Starting point is 00:31:26 A pure striker. And the damn... But what they... So how do I neutralize that? I take your ass down. You got to be able to get up, Ocho. You can't spend... Do you know how much energy that zaps out of you?
Starting point is 00:31:37 With four minutes left in the round, you own your damn back. And you're trying to get up. Hey. When somebody get on you... What, you are with here? Get off me, man. Let me up. Nah, hell not.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Get up. Right. Get off me, man. Hey. Hey. You got to be able to get up, Ojo. You got to be able to wrestle. You got to.
Starting point is 00:31:56 You just got to. I'm not saying you got to be, I'm not saying you got to be John Jones or Daniel Cromer. I'm not going, I'm not saying you got to be Khabib. Kabib, yeah. But you got to have at least a high school level of god dang own wrestling. Something. Maybe a college.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Yeah. Maybe a D2D3 college. I'm not saying you got to be a world champion or gold medalist, but you got to have something, Ocho, because you got to be able to shut down it when they try to, to take you down and you got to be able to get up. Yeah. I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies.
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Starting point is 00:36:57 Hokit won the most exciting and excited fight in the division history of the unanimous decision over Blaze. The heavyweight fight was pure chaos as both fliders slugged it out for 15 violent minutes. Hokeet damaged Blades faced almost immediately with a combination in the open minutes, but Blades refused to go away, storming back. He hit Hokit with heavy punches also. The two heavy weights combined for 303. significant strikes landed.
Starting point is 00:37:24 One short of the record set by Daniel Kremere and Stipe Miochich in the five-round fight in 2019. Now remember, that's a five-round fight. This was only three rounds. And they had one fewer significant strike. They also broke the record for total strikes attempted. 611 eclipsin, the 595 attempted by Tim Silver and Andrea Arlowski in 2006. Hey, them boys, they were letting it go.
Starting point is 00:37:55 To me, that, that was the most exciting fight. Not very technical, but that was the most exciting fight. A Blaze face, Unk, I mean, I don't know how, if you could see it from TV, but I was, I was sitting here. Like, come on, man. Now you got to- Like somebody dump catch up on it. And you got to go get stitched up.
Starting point is 00:38:13 You need to get sit-up before you even lead the arena. Oh, man, that was bad. A buddy. He might need to get it up, though, Joe. You think so? He's been getting beat. He's been getting the break beat off of him. Ah.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I mean, Ocho, he, I mean, damn there 30 seconds in the fight, he damned it. Hey, he damned in praying.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah. He got, you got buckled early. Yeah. You got buckle early. I don't know. I like, I like Josh, though.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I just, I like Josh. And listen, both of them were on fumes. Yeah. And they're just wailing away. And because you're so proud, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:38:52 I don't really got that zap. That water, because if I had that zap, I can get you out of it because I'm getting you clean. You ain't got no defense because everybody was hitting everybody with clean shots. And they're just standing right there in front of each other. And like I said, Blaze got him in the clinch. He ain't kneeing. He didn't try.
Starting point is 00:39:11 He can't, he don't know how to take him down. That's energy. That's energy. Hey, boy, it was one with Blaze through a hook. And he missed. And that goddamn Hoiket went like this and looking out the crowd because he missed the fire.
Starting point is 00:39:26 He telegraphed it. Y'all in Miami, bro, you threw that from Jacksonville. I saw that thing coming from Jacksonville. Boy, he's funny, man. He's entertaining. He continues to sharpen up his tools and add a little more to his toolbox. If I'm not mistaken, I think
Starting point is 00:39:42 I think Hoyt is a wrestler. You know, he's a raster, but he chose the night. They chose to stand there and go toe to toe to toe. Yeah, he did. He did. But like I said, I thought Blades, there are some times he got him on the ground and he couldn't keep him on the ground. I mean, he really, you can tell he didn't really know what to do
Starting point is 00:39:59 because he got him, he's at the back and then he goes to the side. Bro, trip him like they do and get in the guard and make him exert some energy to get you up off him. But you don't know how to get, you don't know how to take him down. You definitely didn't know how to keep him down. You're in the clinch. You don't need him. You don't do anything.
Starting point is 00:40:18 You just like, bro. going to let this man come out here. You're going to let this man get out of this because you had the advantage and going to let him knock your ass out. Well, he almost put him, he won't put him down in that first round. I mean, just open him up.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I just seem like every time he damn hit him, he got a new cut. I'm like, well, damn, hey, check that man gloves. He might got bricks in his hands. Because every time he hit him on your life, I'm like, damn, look at Blade's face. And it was, it was swelling.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And it's like, he cut. He cut up in his eye and cut here and cut there and cut there and cut. I was like, but damn. I don't know. Hey, that man, I didn't look like the elephant, man. That thing would nice. I don't see how you, I don't see how you can go to a fight like that. The energy in the arena, you know, seeing the fighters go at it and how you don't want to get in there on.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Who? That's why I go. That's why would I go see. And I see how they look when they come out of there. And I hear them. I don't want nobody hit me in my face like that. Right. Hey, if they try, if they swing at you,
Starting point is 00:41:25 all you gotta do is block that thing, huh? Yeah. Bring it up, bring it up. I'm gonna have to go get the drum. The drum. I'm gonna go get the drum for it. Hey, hey, okay. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:41:41 No, man, that it could be. But look, look, I mean, think about it. Even though this fight did not end in a knockout, Ocho. Yeah. The strikes, I mean, you see, you see all the, Strix 600 total strike Man, they damn land in half of their damn significant strikes, that's crazy
Starting point is 00:41:57 Now you see why their face looked like it looked Mm-hmm, the fact that nobody went down With the clean punches that they were getting hit with And obviously I think because they were tired And there was there was no umf on any of those punches Which is why nobody actually went down. Yeah, but hey, that was exciting though. It was exciting. That goddamn hoiket, man, I'm hoping
Starting point is 00:42:20 he can get i don't know either he's gonna be the villain or he's gonna be a fan favorite it ain't gonna be nothing in between to some people he's annoying to me he's selling himself he's marketing himself and if he keep winning i'm not saying he'll he'll get to mcgregor's level because that's a whole another that's a completely different level of marketing you know but he's gonna be all right though he's gonna he'll be all right let's take a listen to what hoik had to say from the back of the ambulance in the ambulance What do you say? Oh, brother.
Starting point is 00:42:48 You're smart. Oh, fuck my fucking drover. What do you say? He was laughing. Oh. He didn't say much. He said his jaw hurt.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I mean, he took some shots. But if you go over like, okay, you stand in there like, okay, these two fall. Oh, do I got one? All you got to do is look at Bay's, blade face. You ain't got a question. Who won? Look at him. You know, and Blaze didn't talk any trash when they, when they, um, good.
Starting point is 00:43:24 When they did the panel. And I was, I was kind of confused. You know, Hoyt took over. He took over, did all the trash talking, you know, the rhymes and then whatever it was he was saying. And for some reason, Blaze seemed like he was, he was annoyed with it. And I would expect it for someone, you know, to fire back. He didn't, he didn't seem confident going into the fight. I, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:43:46 well that might not be his that might not be his style no try to go back you don't want to get into at the end of the day yeah be who you are if you're not a talker don't go don't go don't go back and forth with a guy that that's what he does he does yeah he's going to get your head and you out there trying to out talk him you need to out fight him now it'd have been a situation don't Joe he wanted to fight now he can come up with some rhymes there's some riddles and have a lot to see right but you go in the rhyme and riddles and now you look like you stuck your head in the beehive. Nah, no, no.
Starting point is 00:44:25 But look, like I said, I was looking at it as early. I was like, okay, look at blades. I said, okay, Blades. I mean, you know, big old. But Norman, when you see a guy with all the muscles, Ocho. Yeah. Muscles require oxygen. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And when you constantly moving, you gas out fast. You gas out fast. Hey, oh, you see I called out Izzy, Adesanya. call them out for what just to you know square up a little bit maybe maybe two rounds maybe three depending on depending on how you feel no no once you just go run some rock call some old some retired dbs out there and try to run some one-on-one rots on now because they they're green like 65 still running like four-four no I do I do they're agreeing in in his prime I'm not said that you couldn't but I'm saying stick to that
Starting point is 00:45:23 you trying to go in something that you ain't never done and you want to do in your 40s. No, I know. That's okay because I didn't have an opportunity to do it in my 30s and 20 because I was playing. So now I have, I have. You could have trained. Hey, I just want to try it on just to be able to tell my kids.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Hey, baby, y'all seen Daddy get in there? Hey, hold on. Hey, listen, now, listen, Daddy got his ass whoop, but that's not the fact. I still got it now. DELC, see, that'd be one that's helping you to the ambulance. Dale, you ain't got to tell him. You won't have to tell him me to think.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Even Fritz fried, no. Even Fritz fried, no. Talk about my daddy getting toe up into Aany, man. Fritz by, Fritz probably going to try and look up, Mama. Hey, boy, Daddy getting tore up, ain't him, mama? Yeah, yeah, he is, baby. Bad. It's so funny, right?
Starting point is 00:46:28 It's so funny. Because, obviously, you know, all them boys know me. The funny thing about it is everybody I call out there's people that I know personally and Izzy and he in the comments and he used to put the crying laughing faces I see him Kamara Usman I seen Kamara Usman at the fight
Starting point is 00:46:45 and I forgot how he called him out a long time ago when I was doing something with Dana and he say well since you're here now I mean you want to square right here and get it on I say no I say no man I'm just here I'm just here to watch the fights man I don't want no problem
Starting point is 00:47:01 I don't want no problem Yeah. Oh, man. Nah, no. Hey, that was funny. Hey, what did you say? Frick back? Yeah, Frick Lerick and look at him.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah, baby. He's getting tore up at him. Yeah, baby. He's sure. Yeah. I don't know what, I don't know what possess you of daddy to get his ass in that red. But he won't be coming back. I promise you.
Starting point is 00:47:24 But that man, but you watching this fight early on, I was like, oh, this ain't no way. This ain't going three rounds. Because he caught him like in the first. 20 seconds. Oh, yeah. And buckled it. Right off the rip.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I'm like, well, damn. Did you warm up in the back? Or you just came up in the same cold? Because, you know, they still, you know, I mean, you still got to get warm. I understand, you know, because you're getting there so early, you don't know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:51 You're getting there so early because you don't know. I mean, you've got to schedule time. It could get moved up. It could get moved back according if the fight in early or the fights goes to the distance. But, you know, you're in the back. You're getting, you know, you're getting loose. You're getting, you know, going through some, doing some shadow boxing, probably in the paths a little bit.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yeah. Probably simulating some takedows or stuff like that. But, man, I'm like, bro, you walk right out there and just walk right until a combo. But that was, it was, it was definitely a jam-packed fight, a jam, an action-pack fight with some heavy punches landed. I don't know how blades did not go down. I don't know how he survived three rounds with that type of punishment. But Hokie, Hokie took some punishment too now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:32 He took some punishment too, but I just don't think the punishment that he took from Blades was not what Blades took from him. Completely different, especially with the way his face look on. Ooh. I say, boy, man. Yeah, I got to go get the drum. You know, it's funny. I think about it, especially if you're married, do you have a girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:48:54 Yeah. And you lose and you lose and your face look like that. I wonder how do they feel. And I know they want to support you and all that. that you do with, especially, you know, being a wife, being a girlfriend. Yeah, it's tough on them. I'm just saying, but when you get your ass whoop like that
Starting point is 00:49:09 and your girl is there at ringside to see you get your ass with, though she's at home watching and you get whoop like that, does she look at you the same? Well, you remember Dante Wider? Say when he started catching L, you know, old lady, she didn't look at him the same. Now, that's what he said.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I don't know if it's true. He said once he started, the L started piling up, you know, all of a sudden. So I just think it's hard. It's hard to anybody that you, that you care about anybody. Right. Let's just say for the sake of our, I was close friends, let's just say a boxer was close, I was as close to a boxer or UFC fighter as I was Bucking and Burns.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Right. And to see them go, yeah, that would bother me. I'll be hurt. Even though I understand that's a part of their job, that's a part of it. It still would bother me. So you can imagine a spouse or a mom. I mean, sometimes that's why moms don't come. Hell, your mom cringing and, oh, I can't watch this.
Starting point is 00:50:02 and you're getting tackled. Yeah. Imagine you getting kicked and hitting your face. Or you get, are you getting choked out? You got to tap, you got to say, uncle.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Yeah, nah. Mm-mm. That'd be, I don't know. Hey, I take my hat off to the wives and girlfriends,
Starting point is 00:50:20 significant others, that go and watch their significant other. Because I know, you know, hey, it's hard on, you know, family members,
Starting point is 00:50:27 when you watch a sports, especially, you know, sports that you can get injured in. I mean, you can get injured in any sport. But, you know, the likelihood of the sports like MMA and boxing and football, they have a higher degree of potential injury than other sports,
Starting point is 00:50:40 I guess, bull riding things of that nature. But, nah, thank you. Light heavyweight Dominic Reyes defeated Johnny Walker by split decision. Probably the worst fighter the night. Reyes recorded his first winning nearly a year, although the results likely won't do much for his stock in the division or the UFC fan base, the three-round bout was difficult to score
Starting point is 00:51:04 and even more difficult to watch as both fighters played extremely safe despite urgent from their own corners and crowd. Reyes outpointed Walker on the judge's scorecard 2928, 2928 and 28-28-28-29. It was all booze, aren't?
Starting point is 00:51:20 Yeah. That whole fight inside that arena, it was all booze. I'm trying to figure out what happened. Dominique Reyes gave John Jones his toughest fight ever. believe Reyes beat Jones. He has not shown that form since.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Now, I don't know if that was the falling star, Ocho, that was his one time. That was the song in the March Madden's one shining moment. Maybe that was his one shining moment. But the guy that I saw thought John Jones would have ran through Johnny Walker. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Johnny Walker blue and Johnny Walker black. I don't know what was wrong with him.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I'm not sure why they were both being so cautious, obviously. When you sign up, you're signing up the fight. And they did the exact opposite for three rounds. They did the exact opposite. Nobody wanted to take a chance. They damn there, they damn they didn't want to, damn there nobody really threw any punches. No. Not anything goddamn effective.
Starting point is 00:52:26 And that's the thing. Like I said, Ocho, I watched that fight and I was like, damn, man, he just joking giving John Jones all he can handle. Yeah. And I haven't seen him fight like that since. Well, you know what? Maybe he looked the way he did because John Jones had an off night.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Maybe. That night. I mean that that day. Because obviously, if you're going to give John Jones all it can handle and then you look like you look tonight, something ain't right.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Something ain't right. But he had looked like that sense, though. Oh, even before this fight. No, I haven't seen him look that good. Now, maybe, maybe his fan, or maybe, but I don't think he's looked. He hasn't looked as good as what he looked that night. He looked like one of the greatest UFC fighters
Starting point is 00:53:14 in that division into history. That's how good he looked that night. Yeah. And then I'm like, damn. Now, granted, he's a little older, a lot older. I don't remember when this fight happened. I mean, maybe it was, I don't even remember this fight happened.
Starting point is 00:53:33 I remember watching it, but I don't know exactly what year it was. So he's probably, he's older now. Right. He's 37, 38 years of age. But man, I'm like, damn. And like you said, Ocho, that was, I mean, the fights were going good. And then y'all come out here with this bull jive.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Straight booze, the whole fight. Yeah. Y'all got to do something. Hey. And plus it's getting late. And people like, hey, they're in their seat. They're looking for a reason to cheer. They probably have, you know, got a couple of beers in them.
Starting point is 00:54:06 you know, a couple of cocktails in them. Hey, they're ready, they're ready to erupt. Mm-hmm. And then I got to, I got to encourage you to, I got to encourage you guys like, come on let's get it on. Nah, man. Dana, Dana, they're going to be happy with that.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Tyson Fury wins his reins back in domination, and he calls out to Joshua after the fight. Fury took off some ring rust on his comeback to earn a unanimous decision and potentially set up a long-weighted clash with Anthony Joshua. In the return, winning Ways, Fury,
Starting point is 00:54:40 following back-to-back point losses in world title fights to Alexander Usik in his previous two appearances. After the first win in England since the WBC title against Derek Teresa,
Starting point is 00:54:53 December 22nd, December of 2022, Furry turned his attention to Joshua. Furry is urging his compatri is urging his compatriot to fight him next rather than WBC champion Dante Deonté Wilder,
Starting point is 00:55:06 who recently beat fellow on points. What's your thank, Ocho, do you like the way Fury look tonight? Yeah, I like the way look. It took him a little bit to get going, huh? It took a little bit. He didn't get going really until maybe round three or round four. You can see him get a little bit more comfortable.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yes. He had to shake that ring rust off. No matter how much you train, no matter how much you do in the gym, you can't get back to yourself unless you fight. So tonight, I mean, he looked good. Obviously, calling Joshua out, but obviously I think Joshua now
Starting point is 00:55:36 at this point is the A side and Joshua said right to his face you're not going to dictate when I fight you you're not going to come here after after taking a year and six months off whatever it whatever it is and say do I want to fight you we're going to do it the right way I'm the A side I let you know when I'm ready to fight and obviously Joshua said listen I beat you up when we're little and I beat you up now and I've never been scared to get in the ring with anybody but I'll let you know when I'm ready yeah I agree I think the thing is that Anthony Johnson said, well, I won,
Starting point is 00:56:11 you know, I won 10, 15, 20 million dollars, and I fought a guy that didn't have any business in the ring with me, but I took him to school, so I'm good right now. Yeah. But me personally, I'd like to see Deonti Wilder and Anthony Joshua, both of them have dynamite now,
Starting point is 00:56:27 and both of them have chins are a little suspect. Yeah. Wait, so would you consider, well, hold on now, hold on. But that, that, you know, I'm not sure. Would it still be a mega fight even though Deonti Wilder still has losses?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Yeah, Fury has losses. Fury ain't got no belt. I don't think none of them got no belt. Right. But it's just, Ocho, you know it's just something about people with dynamite in their hand, big punches. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:53 We like to see that. So you don't like the, you know, I'm watching me by Tyson Fury. Hey, today I thought Tyson Fury, he got caught with some shots. Yeah. You know, he tried to throw, he's trying to throw the upper cup from distance
Starting point is 00:57:07 and the dude catching with the overhand right. Quick. He's leaving a jam out there too long. The dude catching with overhand right. He's getting reckless and the dude catching him with a check hook. So there are some things that Anthony Joshua could take advantage of, absolutely. But like you said, the guy's been away from the guy,
Starting point is 00:57:25 what is it, 16, 17 months that he hadn't fought, Ocho? Yeah, yeah. So when you, like you said, when you take that long off, you know, hey, sparring is one thing. You need to be in the ring. against another guy and with no headgear and and to feel that rush of 60, 70, 80,000 people watching you. Not in the room when you got a couple, you know, 35, 40 people in the ring and you're sparring.
Starting point is 00:57:48 That's a whole different scenario. Right. So, yeah, I thought he looked good. But like you said, I thought there were some times that he looked, he's like, okay, he looks like a guy that took time off. Yeah. And the mistakes is, you know, hey, he's backing straight up. Man, you know, you came back straight up.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Get that gear. You got either left, left or to the right. Yeah. You can get that head off the line. I think, I think Joshua would probably want to tune up fight before he gets in there with,
Starting point is 00:58:17 with Fury. I really don't consider what he did with Jake Paul as a tune-up. I don't have someone else that, no. To get in there and move around. He's looking at Jay Deontia as a tune-up. You think so?
Starting point is 00:58:29 That's what he said. Hey, come on now. Now, when we talk about- That's what, hey, find that quote. Hey, he said a warm-up. He said, yeah, I use you as a warm-up fight. That's a dangerous fight, huh? I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 00:58:46 That's a dangerous fight, especially those first six rounds. Until Wilder gets tired, he has a punch his chance every time. And even if you block it, the chance you can still get knocked out with Wilder's power. But you do realize Anthony Joshua got power too. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, if you got power. too. And the thing is, like I said, both of those guys chin are susceptible. A little suspect, yeah. Yes. Yeah. And you know what? The better, the better pure boxer is Joshua. Joshua. He's a
Starting point is 00:59:16 gold medalist. Yeah. Yeah. Now, no, and now, Deonté is, I think he won the bronze medal. Okay, yes, but I mean, the way he can sit up punches. See, I think the thing is for me is that Deonti Wilde is really trying to land one punch. He's trying to land that overhead right. Now, can he turn the lights out of the building? Yes. Absolutely. He can short circuit you.
Starting point is 00:59:50 You start to, and you free? Joshua responded, Tyson, you are a clout chaser. I've never had a problem getting in the ring with you. I punched you when you were kids. After watching you tonight, I'll do it again. I'll see you in the ring and do time. You won't tell me what to do when you're ready.
Starting point is 01:00:15 When you're ready, you tell me your conditions, and I'll tell you when I'm ready. I'm the landlord. Remember that. You work for me. So basically you just letting them know I'm the A side. You don't control nothing anymore. When you had the belts, you ain't got no belts.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Mm-hmm. You ain't got no belts. You think got the bell. So how you can dictate what you think, I'm going to fight on your terms. Not at all. And Turkey got to make it make sense too now. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Turkey got to make it make sense. And he has the, he has the pockets to do so. Yeah. It won't be no excuses. Like they said in Captain Phillips, Irish. Look at me. Irish. You remember Captain Phillips?
Starting point is 01:01:00 I do remember Captain Phillips. That was a good movie, boy. It was. Oh, Tom Hanks. Mm-hmm. As a matter of fact, those guys, I thought they were really good.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I think, I think they went back, I think they're from Minnesota. I think they're back working, working regular jobs, Ocho. For real? I think so. Damn.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I think so. I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to confuse the race or ethnicity. Not Somali. Somali. Okay, okay. Oh, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Somali. Yep. But, uh, look, like you said, Ocho, I thought, I thought, given the time that he had been on,
Starting point is 01:01:34 I thought he did some good thing. The other guy, he's conditioning. And look, you all have to understand. Big guys. Heavy weighs different. I mean, that's a lot of moving for a guy, 230, 2, 40, 250, whatever the guy weighed. And then, man, get you some, man,
Starting point is 01:01:49 he had on gauchos out there. Down bad, the baby, get wet. You know how heavy they are? Yeah. But he was tired. And like I said, even though he was tired, he caught Tyson. He caught Fury with a couple of shots.
Starting point is 01:02:04 overhands, caught him with a couple of checks. You saw he had a, uh, uh, uh, uh, Fuhr had a couple of shiners going on. Mm-hmm. But, look, hey, you know, if Fury to be as big as he is, he has really, really good movement. Yeah, yeah, boy, got his size, boy, he's good footwork to be that big. I mean, he, he look a little, no disrespect. He's, he looks a little sloppy. Excuse me, excuse me.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah. He just looked like a garment bag, straight down. Hey, but his footwork, man, and his movement. be that big is, is nice, it's nice. Now, there's only one person that's a heavyweight who's moving and footwork and in ring IQ is better than him, and that's Yuc. Yeah, but Yusick ain't that big of a man, though. No.
Starting point is 01:02:51 You talk about a man that's six, I'll talk if you're six, eight, six, nine, like $250, $2.50, $2.70? Mm-hmm. But I think the thing is, if people look at it, it's not a put-together, 26, 270. Right. It's all over the place. But, but, I mean, hey, Hey, he flicking that jab by there.
Starting point is 01:03:09 But like I said, he'd get careless sometimes. He gets lazy with it, and he was getting caught. Yeah. The question of else, he flicked that job, get lazy with Joshua. Joshua fired something back. He's short-circuited. A quick, quickening in the hurry. So, hey, I'm definitely going to watch the fight.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Like I said, Anthony Joshua is a big super heavyweight. I mean, he looked apart. You see, hey, you see him, he take up and rob me? like, God, dang. You better be able to do something built up like that. Arms everywhere, shoulders capped off. Yeah. You better, you, boy, you better not be built like that and be sorry.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Yeah, it's a big boy, man. He is. People don't realize how, what, he's like, six, five, six, six? Probably about six, four. But he chiseled. Now, that's one thing you can say about it. He comes in shape. That's why I admire guys like, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:05 you know, this was a tough training camp. No, he comes in shape. He comes to fight. Now, sometimes he gets it, you know, get it handed to him, but hey, in the fight game, that's going to happen. Mm-hmm. Because them other guys are really good, too.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Joshua, 36 years of age. He's 6-6-245. God damn. Billy, see, he Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett played football. He bought. Fox.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Mm-hmm. Basically. Well, Miles about 6'5, huh? Yeah, like 6427. Woo. Bill, just like Anthony Joshua. Amman, it shouldn't be that big, shouldn't be that agile, shouldn't be that quick, built like that. Can move like that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:55 But he's one of the few players that looks like Tarzan and play like Tarzan. There are a lot of guys that look like Tarzan and play like Jane. Jay, hey. Nah, bro. Oh, yeah. but uh no i i definitely i like that i like hey bro you ain't fit to call no shots you ain't fit to call no shots over here i'll tell you and that's that's another one that's very charismatic and has great personality and can sell a fight that goddamn tyson fury boy he
Starting point is 01:05:26 know he could sell a fight i think i think it's what he says the act says like you know hey i beat you i have was hungover i've been drinking pints i was you know they They call it pints over there. But no, no, hey, he impressed me. I mean, like I said, when he got up, when he got up off the canvas and whipped wild his ass? Because I didn't think he would go get up on Joe. I did.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I'm not sure what the ref was doing. The ref started that goddamn count late. To be, to be honest. It should have been at 10. Because he laid there for like three, damn near two, three seconds. And the ref hadn't even started yet. I'm like, man, what are you waiting on? soon as he hit
Starting point is 01:06:10 the floor you point to the guy you start counting one two but he got up there and went to work so give him credit that fight's going to happen who is uh
Starting point is 01:06:22 uh uc uh fighting next does he have an opponent is he fighting any time soon I'm not sure well he know he good a Uc move and box
Starting point is 01:06:33 like a damn light heavy weight like a cruiser weight yeah light heavy cruiser He got real good movement, man. Combinations, punching off angles. Yeah. Man, he's nice. Ready for a different take on Formula One?
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