Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Carson Beck LEADS Miami to NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP Game + Dolphins FIRE Mike McDaniel + Unc & Ocho GROW TIRED of Ravens fans BLAMING EVERYONE but LAMAR for Harbaugh FIRING
Episode Date: January 9, 2026Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Miami Hurricanes beating the Ole Miss Rebels to advance to the College Football National Championship to either face Indiana or Ore...gon, the Miami Dolphins have fired Mike McDaniel, and the Balitmore Ravens have fired John Harbaugh after 18 seasons and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 04:56 - Miami beat Ole Miss27:29 - Happy Birthday Ocho!37:12 - Dolphins fire Mike McDaniel49:03 - Ravens fire John Harbaugh (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ocho, Mario Cristobol, and his Miami Hurricanes are headed to the national championship.
Thanks to a 3127 victory over the Ole Miss Rebs.
Ocho, I'm surprised how the game was.
this close. Yes. When you possess the ball almost 42 minutes, the other team have it for less
than 19 minutes. Yes. You have the amount, you 13 of 21 on third and fourth down. And you have
to hold on for your life. Um, the canes dropped so many interceptions, Ocho, four. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Because remember they dropped that one right before the half, Ocho. They got a, they got a kick.
Okay, yeah, yeah. And they had to have one to do. He babbled it. Then he bothered it. Well, I think
you're going to catch it. I'm going to let you catch it. Then he
And then to do Bob and one, Ocho, this thing is pretty.
Yeah.
Other DV pops it up in there.
He right there to pick it out.
It went right through his hands, huh?
Right through his hands.
But the Cains are headed to the National Championship game 31 27 over the Ole Miss
Rebs, a very, very good ball game.
I can see why people like Carson Beck.
And then you can see why he has his critics because Ocho, he was a male and some,
that game shouldn't have been that close.
He got Tony, he was split the scenes on cover to.
Go ahead.
I'm going to let you talk.
Go ahead.
Tell me what you thought.
What did you like about what you saw from the U?
Listen, what I like from the U, obviously it was an offense.
It was an offense defensively.
I would have loved for him to add a little bit more pressure on Chambliss,
but he was able to sit back there comfortably and deliver.
I mean, Chamblis was what, 23 for 377.
He had one TD for 277.
I thought this game would have been won because of that goddamn front four.
That front four, they weren't able to get home and disrupt Ole Miss the way I thought they would have.
Obviously, Lacey got loose.
Lacey got loose early in the,
nothing was the first half.
He got loose on the big one.
They kind of kept him in check after that.
But this game was won by Carson Beck.
Even though he will have his critics
because of what he was able to do tonight
and makes him the throws that he did make
that were completed,
he missed some that could have blew this game out the water.
Wide open.
The blew his game completely out the water.
He's going to look at film.
They're going to go back.
If they're playing a better team,
honestly, if they're playing a better team,
Offensively, they lose this game.
Because you had to fight for your life, you know.
And you shouldn't have.
Not when you possessed the ball like they possessed it.
Not that much.
They had the ball for over 41 minutes.
Not that, not that much.
And also some of them interceptions,
some of those interceptions that they should have had.
Yeah.
Hoping if they got the ball back,
they're going to turn those into points.
Yeah.
It was,
you look at the game early on,
you know, he got Tony,
Tony splits the scene.
He throws it up the rail like he's going to throw him
into the corner.
No, keep him front side.
You see, Tony's looking for it like this,
and he throws him like that.
He's like, bro, what are you doing?
I mean, he throws one.
He got the guy wide open in the flat.
He elmails it on the last drive.
And then you look at some of the throws that he's missing,
and you're like, bro, they're talking about you a top quarterback.
And then you watch him on the last drive on the throws that he completed.
I mean, he's, I mean, Malikai Tony saved him on.
I still don't know how he caught the ball back here and still got a foot.
I don't know how.
You know what?
For some reason, they did, they, they call that play out.
I'm not sure why because the toe touch down.
Because his heel is the ball of his hit first.
You think so?
It did.
Did you think, did you think he like the ball of his foot hit and then it's deal?
I thought, I thought to me when I was watching when I saw the replay, Unk,
I thought it's toe touch first and obviously the heel has to follow.
Once the toe touch.
Yes, that's what I say.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I agree.
Yes.
Yes.
I thought it was a completed.
I thought it was a completed play.
I thought it was a past.
So I was tripping.
I was tripping because the to.
No, you weren't tripping.
But listen, it wasn't complete, but Malachi, Tony tonight, Unk, you know, down here in Miami,
we call him baby Jesus, Unk.
That's his nickname.
And, boy, he was every, every bit of that tonight.
He was special.
He was a special player.
He'd been able to do some of the things that he'd done, the screen pass he took to the
house, B, A, Unk, having the vision to be able to maneuver through traffic and get in the
end zone, man.
God damn brother Fletcher, he towed that ball tonight, um.
You just got to tell them, Joe.
You can tell the cut, they won't listen to me.
Tell him you can't jump cut when you got your cleat spatted.
Because there's too much, there's no, there's no traction underneath.
Because when you slip on that wet grass, your feet going out from money.
I'm right from under you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it was an unbelievable game.
Look, the Malacotony play was sensational.
Keelan, I'm watching it in real time.
Marion Marion?
Marion.
Yeah.
Oh, Joe, help me understand this.
Talk to me.
The DB has Marion, man.
He's got it, man.
He's trying to feel for him, but he's trying to look at Carson back.
Marion turn wheels and goes up and then he's like, start chasing him.
Bro, you got him man.
You cannot clue that far down the field.
No, you can't.
I'm looking at somebody's guy.
I'm like, bro, I know damn well.
Your DB coach ain't teaching that technique.
No, absolutely.
field and you looking in the back field when you got this man man yeah and i think i know you're talking about you
talking about the dby from old miss i think it's last yes yes when when marion wrote he turns it up
yeah catches it he has him man because he starts on like an end route yeah but he's feeling for it
and then he turns it up he's looking in the back field like what can you do for i just want to know
if the quarterback got the ball and you 20 yards down the field tell me how what how do you impact the
quarterback no not you can't sack
Thank you.
No, nothing, nothing at all.
But obviously, wanting to see and get a, get a hint on it when the ball is coming out.
Is that number 32?
Was that Grave Jr. on that play?
I forget who it.
It might have been, Ocho.
Or was it six?
I'm not sure what it was.
But obviously, one of the players that stuck out to me on the Ole Miss defense,
even though they lost the game at DB was that young bull.
He was, he was number 32, Gray Jr.
He going to be a hell of a player.
You hear me?
Hey, he's going to be a hell of a player.
No, you're right.
It might have been a grave junior.
It was, yeah, yeah.
Chad, who was it that got beat on that,
that broken play where Beck rolls out of pocket?
I like T.J. Daughery, too, number six.
Oh, yeah, he's nice.
Number six.
I don't know if he, uh, what they call a rover or he, a Mike or a Will or a stuff.
I don't know what he is.
Yeah.
All I know he can play.
Yeah, yeah.
He can play, oh, Joe.
They got a good, they got a good defense.
Grave Jr. stuck out to me on film to the point where I had the tweet.
Well, God damn, is he running the routes?
I mean, does he know the guy, he's running the rouse with most of the dbs in the game.
And obviously, he had a PI, but he made some really, really great plays.
And man to man out there.
So, I mean, that, that's some credit to him, even though they did lose the game.
This is, that's one of the better fourth quarters in college football.
Unc, I've seen in a very long time.
It is.
In a very, very long time.
Overall, it was, it was, it was, look, the stakes are really, really high.
Yes, sir.
Everybody, somebody knows their seasons end.
and this ending one game before the ultimate goal
which is getting to the national championship
and winning.
So that's what hurts the most
because you're one step away.
And somebody knows that dream is ending tonight.
Yes.
And so maybe you're a little tentative.
Maybe I look, okay, hey, let's feel I weigh into it.
I thought Miami was doing good,
going down the field, end up having to sell.
I don't know what the guard.
Right guard, how many times you're going to fall start?
They told you in the huddle.
They're in the huddle.
Hey.
Don't move.
Ready, break.
Bro.
He said, bro, where you going?
And then the next play, the ball gives tilt and it's intercepted.
Yeah.
It's the like I said, Ocho, see, that's why I, I couldn't do it.
Hey, son.
You know, let me ask you question.
Did you know the snap count?
Did he not tell you?
Because everybody else knew it.
Yeah.
Boy, this was a game.
Hey, great, great game.
Ocho, I'm looking at Ole Miss.
I don't know how old Miss made it this close.
because they
look at this
I'm gonna see some mocho
because I think they had like
I think
the you had like
90 plays
yeah
to like 40 something
maybe 50
oh shit
51 rush attempts
to 21 rush attempts
so
37 and 51 that's 88
60
28 more plays
42
you had the ball
41 minutes and 22 seconds
Ole Miss had to ball
18 minutes and 38 seconds
and for
the game to be as close as it was
when you dominate time of possession
you're crazy efficient
on third and fourth down
and for you to basically
you know
need a hell Mary to fall incomplete
you let a team
hang around now
you got away with
this one. But I'm not so sure the next team that you play, if you let them hang around as long
as this, I wouldn't tempt fate if I was them. It might hurt you. And obviously, when they do
play in a national championship game, obviously it's going to be a home game for the hurricane
because it's being played here at the Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. I'm hoping the defense.
I'm hoping the defense shows up a little better, more so that front as opposed to the back end
for the Miami Hurricanes. I need Bain and them, them young boys, the young boys on the front.
I need them to impact the game a little bit more.
Make their presence felt a little bit more.
Make whoever they play, whether it be Mendoza or whether it be the quarterback from Oregon.
More.
I mean, more.
Whoever they play, make him uncomfortable.
Because both of them, if you allow them to sit back and throw the way Chandleros was able to throw tonight,
they're surgical with that ball, man.
They are surgical with that ball.
The problem that I think Miami is that the guy had great mobility.
Yes.
And when you have a guy great mobility, you're, you're, you're,
really, you're really cautious.
I don't want to,
I, I, I just don't want to let him jump out the window on me.
Because he kind of hurt Georgia with his legs on some place,
and he's hurt teams with his legs,
and he has that ability.
So,
um,
they felt that they matched up really well with their secondary,
and they felt they could get enough pressure with four.
Now,
they brought some pressure early on and they got to him and,
and called him to get an intentional grounding.
But I thought that,
I thought,
it seemed like to me the game plan was,
it's like less,
less containing.
Less containing.
Um,
I liked them,
I like the last play, Ocho, because the right-handed quarterback,
normally they're rolling right.
What did they do?
They dashed him left.
Yep.
So now they got three guys on that one side.
Now we got one guy.
So we got plenty enough time to get him out there,
let the guys get down the field so they can throw it.
But I thought Miami did a great, look, penalties hurt Miami,
kill some drives.
They dropped some interceptions.
They ended up leading the points for Ole Miss.
But those opportunities, when you get those opportunities like that,
and I was like, man,
you guys got the momentum, man.
You need to put this team away.
You need to get some separation.
Right now, there's not enough separation between you and Ole Miss.
And you're like, you look at it.
They're dominating this game.
Yeah.
I'm like like dominating it.
And you look up and like, hold on, wait a minute.
They're still in this game.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, they took the lead and then took the,
and then Miami got it back and then they go back and get it again.
And then Miami has to take it again.
I'm like, how?
Yeah.
Do you guys have the lead when you only have,
you have, you know, basically a quarter or a half
worth of fewer plays?
Yeah.
But this was an unbelievable game, Ocho.
This was crazy.
This is what you hate.
This is what you hope.
This is what you hope.
This is what you want.
I guess the money going to be coming in,
piling into the U.S.
and some of them alumni, hey, this is what we expect now, Ocho.
Absolutely.
And another thing,
This is good, not only NIL, but with players that are hitting the portal,
guess what they're going to want to come?
Right.
Guess what, you know, players are going to want to come to Miami because you see what the program
is done.
You see what Chris Ball is done with the program.
And I think this is the resurgence to the hurricanes of old.
I'm not saying they're the same 2000 hurricanes and the hurricanes from the 90s.
Oh, is it not, well, mainly the 80s.
80s.
80s.
Yeah.
This is a great step in the right direction for that program in general.
And they got some really good players on that goddamn Malachi Tony on.
Malachi Tony is supposed to be a senior in high school, man.
Yeah.
He's supposed to be a senior in high school, man.
Just watching what he's done and being a very, very good friend of all his, his pops,
who was from Liberty City to you might, I don't know if you remember, Antonio, Antonio Brown.
Not Antonio Brown that played for the Cowboys.
Right.
And not our Antonio Brown.
Right.
Antonio De La Brown, he played for Buffalo Bills.
He was short.
He played a little bit with a command.
I almost said red, but the commanders,
but he was fast, boy, he was fast.
So seeing his son out there, man, shining and having fun, man,
salute the De La Man and Malachi.
I'm a whole, eh, you want to come to the game?
No, I don't.
Oh, Joe.
I can get tickets to the hard rock for us to get in the game.
Oh, Joe, I'm gonna be traveling.
I got, we gotta go to New York next week,
and then I gotta go back to LA for three days next week
to take two episodes of Club Shakespeare.
shit, man. And plus, I still got to travel for the Super Bowl. Not, bro.
Well, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. They know me and Jordan at their point. Like,
oh, y'all, y'all again, huh? Yeah. Hey, but listen, listen, I'm telling you I can get us free tickets.
I can get us free tickets. I can go watch the game and we could do it again.
I wish I could like make myself magically appear and not have to get on up to the bank. Do you
know how far Miami is from Vegas? Yeah, I know. Well, you already got to be on the West Coast
anyway. You got to be on the East Coast anyway. So you might will come on down this way early.
No, the game is the night too.
You just said we got to be in New York.
Okay.
Then you, you can already, you could already be on this end.
No.
Miami to New York is the two hour flight.
I know.
Ocho, I need some rest, Ocho.
Do you know how much we, Ocho, think about it.
We got tonight, tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday,
Monday, Monday, Tuesday.
Yes, I travel Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
And guess what you just said?
Guess what?
I leave Monday.
I take Tuesday, Wednesday, and come back Thursday.
Well, let me tell you something.
You heard that schedule you just ran off, right?
Yes.
You do understand.
I'm doing the same traveling you doing, right?
Yes.
Hey, I'm getting on the same flight, doing the same traveling.
Well, you want to come do it.
You want to be my guest, my guest host on Club Shaysay,
you want to host the episode?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who we got?
Who we got?
Oh, you can't tell me who we got, huh?
Tell me who we got so I can do my home.
so I know what to ask.
I'm about let you tape an episode this summer and see how you do.
Okay. Oh, so just me?
Yeah, yeah.
You and the gas.
Okay.
Oh, ooh-hoo-hoo-hoo.
Hey, can I ask you a question?
Can I ask you a question?
Now, now, does, does that come with pay?
Is that extra pays to host?
I mean, I need to see, I need to see if you could do it.
Maybe you might want to do one.
Maybe you might want to start your own.
Yeah, hey, hold on, hold on.
I got some.
See how much homework, how much prep.
come with you right right right hey i think i'm ready for that uncle you know i can i can flip the switch
from the person that everybody sees on nightcap and completely different than the person that'd be on club
she say i get very professional you know uncle i flip the switch i'm gonna put on i'm gonna put on a nice
polo and a jacket yeah i mean you got but don't you know in an interview everything can't be
ad-lib yeah there can be some moments in there but you got you got to follow script oh i'm i'm gonna
let it flow uh and you know i'm not really good scripted on unless it's
a TV show. I'm not really good scripted. So I'm really good off the cup off the top of the
head. It's got to be a sequence. You just can't be all over the place. Oh, I know one band, one sound.
I got it, baby. I'm ready. But this was unbelievable, look, uh, the Keynes won their first
national championship in Miami. Yeah. There's a chance. There were, I remember when they
won the first one, they beat, uh, Oklahoma. Oklahoma, yeah. Oklahoma. Yeah. Oklahoma was a while
to go out and won the national championship, but they went, they went for two.
and the ball got batted down.
This was an 84, 83 season 84.
That was Bernie Kosar.
Bernie Kosar was a freshman.
That's when they had Oklahoma, Nebraska,
had Turner Gill, Mike Rozier.
Mike Rozier had won the Heisman Trophy that year,
went over 2,000 yards.
I think Dean Stein Kula was on that team.
They were loaded.
They were loaded.
But do you sprung that upset?
Coach Nellenberger,
they came out of nowhere and from that point on,
they had, you know, had High Smith, Mel Bratton.
Melvin.
In fact, yeah, that was the, that was the, that was the, that was the,
the beginning of the you, as we know it.
You know, Coach Nellenberger, and then he leaves, he goes to,
I think the USFL or maybe another school,
and then in come Jimmy.
And then in come Erickson.
Yeah.
Hey, they were ball and boy under a day that them team Jimmy had and coach.
Oh, yeah, Jimmy Jimmy will look.
Not could only could Jimmy build a team.
Yes.
He knew exactly what to say to the player.
Because my, you know, I know you guys have seen the interview with Mike where he said, I say,
Mike, man, why you went 41?
He said, man, that was Jimmy.
That's 27.
Right, right.
I said, Jimmy.
Let me get another number.
Man, 47 that ain't need.
He said, I'm going to give you some touchdown.
I'm going to give you some yards.
He said, Mike, you know what I see?
When I see you in that 47, I see a big old 747 about to land in the end zone and score touchdown.
Mike say, yeah?
That's what you see?
You know, I'm like, that's what you see?
Yeah.
He said, man, I get the dollars about two or three years in and we're having a drink.
He said, Mike, I can't believe you brought that story.
Mike said, what story, Jimmy?
He said, that 747.
story.
Jimmy knew how to sell.
Jimmy knew how to motivate.
Jimmy was the perfect carrot and the stick.
He knew that.
Yeah.
And man, he had some playboy.
They ate.
They got Jay Buggy, they got Danny Stubbs
and they had Testa Bird.
I still don't know how they lost that game
to Penn State.
I still don't know.
They lost 14.
I don't know.
With that level of talent
that they had on the field that night,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were supposed to lose that game.
Hey, Jimmy, Jimmy had some players too.
And when Dennis Erickson was there.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he had some players too, boy.
But I still, look,
Ole Miss, you ain't got nothing to hold your head down.
No, no, absolutely not.
This was, uh, uh, boy, I, I think Lane would have probably been sick
had they won this game.
Because remember, Ocho, he's leaving Ole Miss to go build a championship team.
And lo and behold, he built one.
already.
Yeah.
He built one.
Yeah.
And the thing is is that
he could have stayed there
and done this and had no problems.
He must win a national
championship at LSU.
And we also have to understand why he left.
We have to understand, you know,
because, you know, money talks,
huh?
Yes.
Money talks.
But it's being reported
that Ole Miss was willing to match.
You know, hey,
you know FedEx.
Now, he,
passed away, but you know, I'm sure he left a pretty nice endowment.
Yes, sir.
I can tell you one thing.
I think if, if Ole Miss was willing to match when the rumblings of him actually leaving
LSU would have came about, they would have matched it in.
Well, I think it's the point of waiting.
Ocho, if you really want to stay, you, you know, you don't even entertain that.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like in a relationship, Ocho, if you really want to stay with old girl,
are you really out there entertaining others?
If you really
We don't even talk about that
Don't even worry about that. Don't worry about that.
Don't worry about that.
I'm with you when you're right now.
I'm with you right.
Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Before you keep going,
let me put my camera back on
back on my,
because I'm on my laptop
and I don't like it being not clear.
Hold on.
I need the people to see my face.
Ah, there we go.
See I clear that boy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You brought that down.
That's real nice there.
Yeah.
Oh, let me ask you a question.
Yeah.
Was that past interference on the last play?
Oh, the very last play in the end zone in the corner?
Yeah.
That's a touching one on.
That's a touching one.
Honestly, that's a touchy one because he's feeling for him and he has him the whole time.
He pulled him down.
But he pulled him down a little bit.
It's a call that can be called.
The ref one to be an asshole.
He could, he could do it.
He could have to do it.
obviously it's not a spot file it'll be a 15 yards and I think even with the 15 yards
I still don't think they get a touchdown because they needed to touchdown the wind but he could
have called it if you wanted to at Ocho I think that was more of a pass interference than the
one in Ohio State remember they called the one in the corner in the yes yes yeah yeah yeah that
if I'm not mistaken I think that a that gentleman the DB I think he imprisoned Ocho Chris Gamble
Sharp.
Sharp.
He is?
I think so.
I think he called him a 187.
That's tough.
Man, that's tough.
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That's tough.
Huh?
Happy.
Oh.
Who birthday it is?
Ash.
Your birthday.
Oh, it's 12 o'clock.
Hey, hey, happy birthday.
Why, you're just making a mess.
Y'all, y'all should have been that and don't your house popping this.
Huh?
They should have been now at your house popping this.
Making this mess in my house.
And you know what's funny?
I forgot.
I forgot today.
I forgot the day with my birthday.
You see how focus I am on work.
You see how focus I am?
I'm locked in.
I did my homework.
And you know, you know, you know,
how I'm gonna celebrate tonight, right?
Okay, okay, damn.
O-TRA 8-50.
Y'all keep on potter like you turn a 50 or a 60.
Yeah, I'm 50, I turn 58 today.
Hey, Chad, I turned 58.
I'm gonna have birthday.
And you know how I'm gonna celebrate this thing, right?
Huh?
How are you for to celebrate?
Hey, hey, oh, you got a bottle, shake?
That what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
I got some of this.
I got some-Campoia in town?
Huh?
Cambodia in town?
Yeah, she's right here.
She's right here.
She's right here.
She's right here filming.
Do she film me?
Yeah, she filming right now.
Hey, you know, from a, hey, from a, hey, from a, hey, from a, hey, from my 50th birthday, you know, you know, I don't really drink, but I'm a seller, I'm going to celebrate with y'all tonight on the chat.
It's strong?
Nah.
Boy, you don't chug it like that.
Oh.
Oh.
El Roy.
That, Chad, he, he took it to the dome.
He probably should have.
I, Chad, I might be doing this by myself shortly.
Ooh.
I was going to recommend you put it on some ice or something,
a little jit, some soda or something.
Yeah.
Hey, uh, tell Camboe to get you some, some, some, uh,
get you some chaser.
You need some chaser.
You say you know my chaser.
Damn.
Lord, have mercy, chat.
We're just getting started.
That concludes this episode of Nightcap.
Man.
Yeah.
That's how you celebrate.
That's how you bring it 58, boy.
That's how you bringing it, Ocho.
Hey, that's how you bring it in, Ocho?
Hey, you just need some ginger ale, Ocho.
Chad, get y'all some of this goddamn La Porte.
How you say it?
Leportier.
Yeah, Leportier, uh, Cognac.
I'm going to need y'all to start celebrating with me.
I need y'all to start having a nightcap with me.
Yeah.
We have nightcap.
Hey, hey, hey, I'm fucked up.
Yeah.
Carson Beck.
Oh, Joe, Carson Beck is playing the seventh season of college football.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What?
Seven.
Hold on.
So he's 24, 25.
That man, three years younger than Lamar.
Hey, I have a question.
Do they purposely stay back like this to make sure they get a better position in the draft?
Well, you know.
you know what happens with the uh with the uh COVID COVID through everything
of guys getting six seven years eight years you got guys that get drafted in NBA
and come back to college right it's been it's uh but he put together one of his best
games though 203 or 37 268 two touchdowns and one of reception is three yard
rushing touchdown with 18 seconds was the difference in the ball game uh it was his eighth
career win when trailing or tied in the fourth quarter
Look, I think the thing is that when you watch him, you see some throw that he makes and you're like, okay, I can see why people love him.
Oh Joe, get some chaser.
You need some chaser.
You don't be chasing it?
Yes, I do.
I've been having with Gingerale.
Oh, that's how you're supposed to do it?
Yeah.
No, you don't have to do it.
But you just not starting.
Okay, hold on.
I'm going to do it with this.
No, that isn't what you.
Are you trying to stay up and be?
See, that's what people...
Ocho.
People drink red bull and alcohol
when they really try to stay up and get drunk.
That ain't what you're trying to do.
Hey, hey, boy, it's so strong, boy.
God, damn.
Hey, hot people do this all the time every weekend.
I don't know how they do that, Ocho.
That ain't, that ain't me.
Hey, hey, why?
I'm sweating.
Oh, yeah, you're feeling good.
It's going to feel good, now.
You're going to feel good.
Baby!
I hope you got a fan.
I think I'm tearing up a little bit.
Hey, it burned right here though.
Yeah, it's smooth.
Oh Joe, you took it down.
Hey, you keep talking since you're feeling good.
Go ahead.
Hey, chat, I'm feeling good.
It's my first time, really.
It's my first time, you know, I mean, for those that don't know in the chat,
I'm not one who consumes alcohol.
A lot of people will probably remember when we hit 1,000 subscribers.
in Vegas for that show, I just let it hit my, I let it hit my lip.
I ain't really, really drink it.
So this is my first time ever, ever.
For those that actually know me personally, no, I don't drink.
So this is my first time ever.
And I thought, why not, why not have my first drink tonight for my 58 birthday
and tasting some of the ons la Portier, one of the smoother cognates on the market?
I'm excited.
I'm happy.
I hope my kids are watching
if my kids are watching
I love y'all
your daddy finally had a sip of alcohol
because all my kids drink
and I don't
my kids are of age
outside of that
for those you who are wishing
me happy birthday
thank you
I love you
I appreciate the birth
and what do I have
planned today for my birthday
I'm gonna have a cigar
after the show tonight
I'm gonna go to the gym
because I feel wired up right now
I feel good. I feel energized. And, um, and I, like, I look good for 58. Like, look at me.
Like, I'm using my, I'm using the right camera, right? So it, you, you can see everything visually.
Like, like, I look good. Right. And I, I'm, I'm thinking about at 58, if, if I could start,
like, a modeling career. Is it too late for that? Is it too late? Because I think I should model
because I'm six for like, I'm, I'm, I'm going to let you drink alone, though, Joe.
Oh, you go, hey, A, A, L. Oh.
Hey, Uncle, I'm feeling good, boy.
I'm feeling good.
Ocho, see you get your little ginger rail.
Okay.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me get my cup too.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I'm feeling, I'm feeling.
I'm going to get fucked up.
Chat, I got a feeling this thing about to go off the rails.
Yeah.
Hey, chat.
Hey, chat.
Well, we out here, boy.
Hey, yeah.
Hey, which one I pour first?
The chaser or this?
Put that on the bottom.
How much I put?
Huh?
Your need, uh, just go ahead.
Just pour a little shot.
I'll tell you when to stop.
Oh, shit, I've been pouring all this time.
I can't see.
Now, you're pouring?
Okay, yeah.
All right.
Now, go ahead and put, yeah, you good.
Now, what you got, what you're chasing it with?
Oh, Lord.
Boy, you're going to be wide away.
Hey, don't, don't, don't drink that.
I ain't got, I ain't got, I ain't got nothing else here.
You ain't got no soda?
Yeah, my refrigerator,
Why I ain't spending no money?
Oh, Lord, have mercy.
So I'm gonna use this, right?
How much I'll pour in there?
Don't pull that.
Well, chap, you know what the cat said
when he got to tell caught in the washing machine?
He said, it won't be long now.
It won't be long now.
Look at it killed old Bill.
It did not take his breath.
A little green hornets went up Bill nose
and tickled old Bill to death.
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Dolphin's owner, Stephen Ross, after careful evaluation and extensive discussion, since the
season ended, I have made the decision that our organization is in need of comprehensive
change. Ocho,
are you surprised that
the Dolphi let Mike McDaniel
go? No, I'm not surprised, don't
I'm not surprised. I think Mr. Ross, he
wanted to change. I think change was inevitable.
Obviously, when Tua was bench,
you can see what direction they were probably
going to go down. Once that happened,
Tua, obviously saying some of the things
he said, with saying he sees
no problem and starting somewhere else
and trying to get
things back rolling on another team.
A fresh start. Yeah, a fresh start.
So, I mean, you saw this coming still.
Is Q and Eric Quinn Ewers?
Is he the answer long term?
That's also up in question.
So the dolphins are in disarray right now where there's really no true answer.
Whatever coach does come in there, I mean, he has his hands full.
He has his hands full.
They have some spots that need to be filled on the officer end.
They have some spots that need to be filled on the defensive end.
Outside of that, is it, God damn it, is it a job that's going to be sought after?
Maybe, maybe not.
But they got a long way to go.
They got a long way to go for one to be able to compete in the AFC, AFC East, let alone.
You got Drake May and you got, and you got Josh Allen.
Yes, yeah.
Drake May is in his second year.
Josh Allen's probably in his eighth year.
They're still fairly young.
So you got to deal with both of those guys for the next decade plus.
Yeah.
That's how you got to bill.
Don't worry about the Jets.
You got two teams that's in front of you.
They got, they, there's some, I mean,
the Jets are worth, think about it.
If you can imagine, Ocho, the Jets are, the Jets are worse off than the dolphins.
Well, hold on.
They, honestly, they might be equal now because neither one of them have a quarterback.
Yeah.
Neither one of them have a quarterback.
I still, I still don't know, you know, you know, the jury is out on,
on and if yours is is the answer long term.
No, he does.
So, I mean, that, that puts you right back at square one.
He didn't show enough.
It's not like a situation like the Saints and Tyler Shook.
He showed enough.
They said he's definitely our quarterback going into 2026.
Right.
Ewers didn't show them enough.
That young man played really well when given the opportunity.
Yeah.
But let me ask you this.
The John Harbaugh automatically because now I don't know if this is true,
but it's being reported.
Right.
For him to even consider.
you're going to have to get rid of your general manager.
He's going to want his own guy in.
Right.
He's going to want someone that was connected at the hill.
Right.
I don't see John Harbaugh taking that job.
I don't see him taking that job because obviously if you take that job and you know
that the one thing that you need to compete in this NFL is a quarterback.
And if that's not in place, your time there's going to be real short.
Yeah.
Your time there's going to be real short.
So I think John Harbaugh will probably pick a place where there's already a quarterback in place
and you can build from that point on.
Well, if that's the case, the Giants is perfect.
They got a quarterback in place.
That's a good one.
That's a good situation.
The Giants is the best situation because they have a quarterback in place.
The Raiders do not have a quarterback in place.
The Jets do not have a quarterback in place.
The Titans have a quarterback in place.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
I like that one.
I like that one.
Arizona, they don't have a quarterback in place.
Also, I think they're quarterback.
I think for some reason, I don't know why.
I could be wrong, but most of the time when I make these guesses when it comes to the NFL,
I've been right like I was with the Bears and the Panthers.
But I think Kyla Murray for some reason might be going to New York.
I think Caller Murray might be a jet.
To the Jets?
Yeah, I can see that happening.
Yeah.
And outside of that, I'm not sure what the Dolphins do.
I'm not sure what the Dolphins do.
Maybe Flacco.
Maybe Flacco comes in for a year.
Flacco can get just five, six games, maybe.
Maybe the Falcons.
Wait a minute.
Look at what they got defensively.
Look at the skill position players.
Now they got to do something with Pits.
Yeah.
I think he's shown enough that he's going to get,
he's going to probably move to the top of the front
to the line as far as paid and tight end.
Right.
With that being said, you got D.
You got Bejohn Robinson.
You got Drake London.
London.
You got guys that can make plays.
Right.
Quarterback.
What are we going to do at quarterback?
Well, Pinnick Jr.
be back.
He'll be back next year.
Will he be ready by the start of the season?
Ocho, for me, it would just, it would have been hard for me.
And if I'm a general manager, Ocho, I'm not sure I can make this.
A guy with two ACL injuries at that position, I don't know if I can make that.
I don't know if I can pull the trigger, Ocho.
Hold on that.
What you mean?
You talk about the number eight pick in the draft.
You ain't got no choice.
I'm saying, if I'm the general manager there, I'm not saying I can make that pick.
Right.
Not with two already, Ocho.
Right.
And knowing how much he sets you back.
back if, if I just, I just would not be able to, I just would not have been able to make that pick.
But Stephen Ross looked at first, I mean, because you have to think about it.
It didn't happen Monday.
I think it happened what today or yesterday, the firing of McDaniel.
It happened this morning.
So it didn't happen immediately.
So like he said, I do believe Stephen Ross gave this careful consideration.
Yeah.
I do believe he put a lot of thought into this.
But I think with Troy, Troy's like, if you look, if you're rebuilding, if you're rebuilding,
You want to go in a different direction.
Sometimes you got to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Let the hair go at the hide.
It's just the way it has to be, Ocho.
Right, right, right, right.
Because you say if you want to fengue everything, that you want to clean it,
you got to let that go.
Hey, I'm supposed to finish the whole thing tonight?
No, you're not supposed to finish that tonight.
Maybe maybe a couple of weeks.
I ain't too far.
I ain't too far.
Now, look, I didn't got a little bit of that.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's full silversy.
Yeah.
You're just hold up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
After the news broke Tyreek Hill posted a cryptic Kevin Hart damn gift.
There's going to be a lot of changes.
They're going to be a lot of changes.
They're moving on at the quarterback position.
Obviously, they've got a new head coach.
You're going to have a new head coach.
They're going to have a new general manager.
Tyreek with a big salary number like he is coming out of the injury.
more he probably going to be maybe a June 1st designation but I don't see him being back there
look they got Devon A. Chan they're going to need a receiver I think they need some help on
the offensively they need a lot now I don't know their cap situation but they need they need a lot
do you think you think there's any scenario in which I know Tyree has the high number you think
there's any scenario where he comes back not with that injury I'm
I don't I don't that's that's tough that's tough because we we see many players come back come back from injuries and and I think about someone like Tyreek even if he's not as fast as he was before he's still going to be faster or step faster than everybody else I agree but are you willing are you willing to put 30 million 35 million dollars to see if he's he's he's back I don't think you would be I don't think I don't think I don't think I don't think I don't
fake a team now they might put some incentives give him a contract where he can maybe
make 10 make 15 million and he get incentive to get it under 2025 right but I just did that
that that number that that worries that I just I don't see it I don't um who know maybe
Kansas City I think Kansas City needs offensive line they need a lot of offensive line help
they're going to have to do a lot of restructions of contracts uh you know my homes is like
$70 plus million.
They're going to have to do something with his.
CJ is a big number.
They're going to have to do something with his.
I can see Carlopters.
They do something with his.
Would I be surprised if they traded Trent McDuffie?
I would not.
Well, listen, he's up.
It's time for him to get paid.
Exactly.
He's time for him to get paid.
I'm not sure you want to,
do you really want to let your centerpiece go outside of Chris Jones
on your defense and let Trent McDuffie go and scrap and start all over?
You have no way you can count on in the back end?
You got to do something?
I wouldn't do that.
You got to do something with Rashid Rice.
Already?
You got to realize,
this was his third year.
Oh, snap.
It is his third year.
Golly.
You know,
Trey Smith got a big number.
I don't think Trey is going anywhere.
The right tackle.
He's probably due for a restructure
or a flat-out release.
Right.
They've got to tear this thing down
and build it back up, Pocho.
They've kicked the can, and now they're towhorts.
And so they can't kick it any further.
Right.
They can't kick it any further.
So, but I think, I think with John Harbaugh being available, he's at the top of everybody's list.
Because he's a proven commodity.
He's been their night, 17 years.
He's won the division.
He's made the playoffs.
He's won a Super Bowl.
But I, I was listening today with Todd Monkin.
And Tom Muggett said, yeah, I could have had a better,
we're going to talk about that?
Okay.
We're going to talk about that a little later.
That's a, that's a subject end of its own self.
So we'll talk about that a little later today.
I mean, not today, tonight, in the subject.
But I think, I think John Harbaugh, I think, you know,
the Giants, if he wants a situation that has a quarterback,
I think the Giants is the best situation for him.
Now, that's a very tough division.
but you have the quarterback.
If I got that guy in place, Ocho,
I can build pretty much from there.
But without that guy,
it's too much of an uphill climb.
Yeah, absolutely.
So we'll go ahead.
What are you going to say?
No, I'm going to say absolutely.
I mean, without a quarterback, you inhale.
You're going to always be in hell.
Unless you have that centerpiece to be able to build a team around offensively,
unless you got one hell of a goddamn defense,
you got to have one hell of a defense to even goddamn compete.
Look at all the teams.
The top 14 teams defense, scoring defense, they're in the playoffs.
Now go look at their quarterbacks.
Trevor Lawrence was the number one overall pick.
Bryce Young was the number one overall pick.
Matthew Stafford was the number one overall pick.
Trevor Lawrence was the number one overall pick.
CJ Stroud was a number two overall pick.
Look at the quarterbacks that's in the postseason this year.
Look at both nicks.
The only guy that probably wasn't a first rounder was party.
Jalen Hertz was a second rounder.
Yeah.
But if you go back and look at the teams that made the playoffs,
Aaron Rogers, first round pick,
Sam Darnel, number three, overall pick.
So you see what it is.
The top 14 teams scoring team defensively in the playoffs.
Now look at the quarterbacks.
Yeah.
You're like, oh, okay.
Oh, my bad.
Oh, you were talking about that?
Oh, by bad.
All right, less than two days after yet another heartbreaking season, ending loss,
Raven's owner Steve Bichotty pulled a plug on John Harbaugh's tenure in Baltimore.
According to Jared Bell, of course, it's not a stretch to suspect that Bichotty's decision
was influenced by the deteriorating relationship between Harbar and Lamar Jackson.
Last week, Harbaugh rejected contention by Baltimore columnist,
Baltimore Sun columnist Mike Preston, that a riff between the coach and the dynamic quarterback existed.
Still, I'm seriously doubting that Preston, a well-respected journalist who has covered the Ravens since their arrival from Cleveland in 1996.
I know Mike Preston very well, created a smoke out of thin air.
There's also Jackson's strained relationship with Todd Monkin reportedly weighed heavily into the equation that led Harbaugh's ouster.
According to the athletic, Harbaugh became a buffer between the quarterback and the coordinator.
Regardless, over the past six season, the Ravens have lost the NFL-Intyreact.
high 10 games after blowing a double-digit lead in the second half.
That pattern certainly connected the dots to the underachievement.
So blaming Jackson's for Harbaugh-Auster doesn't cut it,
considering a bottom line that extends beyond the team's most important player.
Todd Monkin said that he could have had a better relationship with Lamar,
whatever reason they didn't connect.
This is not the first time.
that a quarterback, and normally it's the quarterback and the head coach
and the offensive coordinator is a buffer.
Normally it's not the head coach that's a buffer
because normally it's the coordinator that's a buffer between quarterback and head coach.
Right.
And you know what?
I wonder why that is, though.
Why wouldn't the officer coordinator and the quarterback get along?
What type of rift can that be?
Listen, if you're going to have a relationship or if there's any relationship that needs to work
extremely well and everything you, all ideology need to align,
is the goddamn awful of the coordinator and the quarterback.
Yes.
Like, y'all, y'all can't have a riff.
I'm not sure how that can happen.
Obviously, maybe there's something Lamar wanted to run that he didn't agree with,
or maybe there's some things that he wanted Lamar to run,
and, you know, he didn't agree, he didn't agree with it.
But you can't have a riff, you can't have a riff,
especially not between those two.
The person actually calling the plays and you're the quarterback,
that that's a relationship that has to be on the same page.
Todd Munkin accepted blame for why Lamar Jackson and the Ravens regret
in his third season as a team offensive coordinator.
Monkin said today, I didn't coach Lamar well enough.
I didn't have a good enough relationship as I could have.
I didn't do things we needed to do this year to win enough games to give ourselves a chance.
I believe that.
I really wish Lamar would have been healthy and seen what we kept building on.
When we were from 23 and 24, then we just never got it going.
That's what you have to live with.
Lamar and I, Lamar and I, to me, had it good.
good relationship. Could it have been better? Yes. Lamar and I never had an issue. Munkin isn't
expected to remain with the Ravens. Of course not. If he hadn't, if he didn't have a good
relationship, for what? You're going to let Marr go and keep Munkin? Yeah, I mean, it's impossible
to repair at this point. And the fact that is that as a quarterback, what are he going to be? I don't know
if he wants to be there then. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Because normally guys, also normally guys
doesn't do well with demotions.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Hold on.
I'm the offensive coordinator and now you're telling me I'm just a quarterback coach.
Well, he can't work with Lamar.
Oh, now I'm a receivers coach.
I go from being an offensive coordinator to be in a position coach.
I don't know if that's going to work coach.
Obviously, if he is going to stay there,
is there any scenario where Lamar might not be there as well?
What if Lamar is going on to green and passes?
Well, Lamar's under contract.
Now, he could.
I don't see him doing that.
but he could request, you know, Trey, want to get out of there?
He could.
Yeah, I mean, listen, when it comes to the NFL, when it comes to the business side of things,
ain't no telling.
I don't think it's far-fetched, especially now that they're trying to start over from scratch.
I don't see a situation or scenario where you let someone that is as important and as special as Lamar is,
still one of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL.
you don't let that type of player get out your building.
You just don't, no matter what people may think about him,
no matter what you may say about his playoff success
and not being able to reach a Super Bowl at this point,
still, he gives you your best chance to win
on any team you put him on.
He just does, whether you like him or not.
But we got to stop this notion, guys.
Lamar was it now.
Munkin's first year, DeOcho, he wins the MVP.
Last year, he's 41 and 5.
And most people believe he should have won the MVP last year.
He wasn't healthy this year.
And now all of a sudden, Todd Monkin can't call plays?
Why do y'all do that, Chad?
Why?
Why do you do that?
He won an MVP in his first year there.
His second year, they went to the NFC championship.
They went to the FC championship game.
They lost a heartbreaker.
Three turnovers.
Next year, Lamar had one of the great,
probably one of the five great quarterback seasons.
41 and four.
And now Lamar struggled this year with injury.
and they missed the playoff and not Todd Muckett terrible.
Yeah.
Listen, it's hard.
It's hard to remain consistent.
I don't think people understand.
It's hard to remain consistent and always play at a very high level.
Sometimes things don't go well.
Injuries.
Lamar was hurt.
Ocho, he was hurt.
Yeah.
How many games did he miss?
He missed like three games.
And when he first got back from injury, you could tell he wasn't the same.
Maybe the game against Pittsburgh was as healthy as his being,
but he was not his.
healthy as you've seen Lamar late in the season.
Right.
Y'all got to stop doing this.
He, okay, y'all ran grow.
He won the MVP, Ocho, his first year, full year of starting.
He wins the MVP with Greg Roman.
Now all of a sudden, things go sideways.
You don't like Greg Roman.
Todd Munkin comes in.
His first year, MVP, the next year, 41 touchdown.
There haven't been a whole lot of quarterbacks.
But throw 40 plus touchdowns and have single-digit interceptions.
With this man had 41 and four.
Tom Lamar's hurt this year he's hurt y'all know he's hurt his hamstring and now all of a sudden Todd Munkin terrible
why didn't you say that when he won the MVP yeah I didn't hear anybody say Tom monkey was terrible
right they went 41 and four last year Todd you didn't say Tom monkey I mean think about it
no Joe you are a drop pass away from from from the beating a buffalo last year
Buffalo last year.
Your three turnovers.
Lamar turned the ball lower,
but Zay Flan was going into the end zone.
He's going to extend the ball and Sneed punches it out.
Come.
Yes.
They've got to do a better job of finishing.
Do we, did you get that stand?
I mean, Ocho, guess who gave up the most yards this year?
DBs?
Two of them played for,
two of them played for the Ravens.
44, number two.
One gave up 831 yards
The other one gave up 813 yards
Oh my goodness
Followed by Riley Moss
But the Bronco fans collection tell me great
And I hear my guy
Keith Keith to leave tip
Oh man Riley Moss like that
Well he gave up the third most yards
And he was the tie for first and penalties
I don't know how that's a great corner
But okay I take your word for it Keith
You play corner longer than I did
I never played corner to be honest with you
But I'm gonna take your word for you
You said he good with those numbers,
where he don't give up no touchdowns.
But how many of those yardage
and how many of those penalties led the points?
See, people look at, see,
that's what you've got to be careful of, Ocho.
Well, he didn't get up a touchdown,
but your PI led the points.
Yeah.
The yardage that you gave up,
that 50-yard bomb that you tackled about the two,
led the points.
Right.
But I just want Ravens fans.
Don't put this all on Todd Monkey.
You can't.
Because Lamar had two of the greatest
Can you see it on your screen, Ocho?
Okay, the most yards allowed in coverage in 2025 per next gen stat.
Marlon Humphrey gave up 831 yards.
Nate Wiggins gave up 810 yards.
Amit Robinson from Detroit gave up 808 yards.
Riley Maals gave up 806 yards.
And Sanstriel from the commanders gave up 780.
Damn.
Hey, you know, hey, that's, hey, that's, that's, that's, that's,
Tough too. That's tough. And obviously to me, I say it all the time. I think defensive back is the hardest, hardest position to play. You know, outside of the quarterback position, you know, having to deal with dudes, man, running at you full speed. They know where they're going. You don't. And you're doing everything backwards as fast as you can. I mean, it's a tough spot. That's why I commend the Derek Stingleys, the JC horns, the Pat Sotanes, well, Gonzalez. And them dudes got one hell of
of a task and they play it very well at the highest level.
Yes.
And it, it's,
it sucks.
And you look at,
you look about some of the teams,
especially when it comes to Wiggins and Marlon Humphrey,
and they don't have no front.
They don't got nothing on that first level.
So you got the goddamn cover for,
hell, all goddamn day long.
All day long.
You don't have that problem in Denver.
Oh, no.
Mm-mm.
Look, I think a lot of this maybe has,
because Ocho, as Jared Bell reported wrote for the USA Today, and I know Jared very, very well.
He covered me, speak to Jared, is that the Ravens haven't been able to finish.
Right.
Remember, they had Buffalo at the beginning of the year, Ocho.
They gave that up.
They had Buffalo last year to playoff.
They gave that up.
Yeah.
They're not able to finish game.
This year, they had Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh come back.
They have Pittsburgh again.
So what I will say is that this notion,
oh, come fourth quarter, we're going to rotate.
What?
You're not in the solar system.
Let the stars and the planets rotate.
Dang, here we get your big ass in there.
I ain't rotate nothing.
Especially when I need to cloak,
Ocho, that's what I got it for.
I got six foot three, 250 pounds.
And you mean to tell me he's on the bench
where I got a 5-5-7 or a 200-pound back?
Hell no.
Yeah, that may all make no sense.
Maybe Steve Ashati is reported that Steve didn't report to Eric DeCosta.
He reported straight to Bashati.
And I said Bashati should have been very upset
because I'm asking, I'm paying a guy,
I've given a guy raised that I had a two-year deal on,
I tear that contract up and give him more money.
Yeah.
He on the sideline?
Yeah.
He rushed for the second most yards this year.
He had the second most one of the yard games this year.
Why is he, when we're trying to close the game,
why is he on the sideline?
Why do we just, I get it, Ocho.
We up 20, we up 20 points or something like that, Ocho.
Right.
Hey, you die on this series, Derek.
Okay, cool.
But in a situation like this,
that's if we're on solid footing,
Ocho, every game matter because we squanded so many games before.
So every game is almost doubled
because we can ill afford to lose any momentum.
Right.
So I'm sure Steve was upset.
It's like, John, what are we doing?
I don't care about no rotation.
As a matter of fact, I went down there and got my car rotated.
That's the only rotation I know about.
I paid Derek Henry $19 million a year.
I want him in the game.
It's that simple.
But look, I think John Harbaugh is a phenomenal coach.
but I thought it was time for him to leave.
Yeah.
Same thing.
Andy.
Oh, Joe, Andy Reed is a perfect example.
Right.
Oh, in Philly.
In Philly.
Yes.
Okay, okay, okay.
He goes to Kansas City,
and Andy Reed is arguably a top five coaching NFL history.
Right.
He goes to five Super Bowls.
He wins three of them.
I think he has what,
the third most wins,
third or fourth most wins all the time?
when you can buy a regular season and postseason,
maybe this is a situation for John Harbaugh.
Right.
John inherited a very good team.
Because what he inherited was a Ray Lewis,
Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs,
Hello de Nata.
I don't know if y'all know this, but they were pretty good.
Oh, it was nice, man.
They was nice.
And Joe Flacco come postseason,
he looked like Joe Montana.
Joe Flacco never looked in the regular season like he looked in the postseason.
Look at who he beat.
He beat Tom Brady twice.
Should have beat him three times.
Yeah.
Remember Lee Evans dropped the touchdown, Ocho, with like 30 seconds that would have
gave him the victory.
Hey, old Lee Evans, what?
Yeah.
I forgot about Lee.
Beat Peyton Manning.
I mean, in that run they went to the Super Bowl, he beat Andrew Luck.
He beat Peyton Manning and Tom Brady just to get to the Super Bowl.
Mm-hmm.
But you got dang.
Henry in your backfield, you got to give him the ball.
I understand, don't you? When you pay a guy the kind of money that you're paying Lamar,
your tendency is to want to throw it.
Yeah.
Because...
Wait, if not even throw it, at least make sure the decisions that are made,
they come by him.
The ball goes through him.
Yes.
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