Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Chiefs late-game miracle, Josh Allen's MVP case, Drama in Philly?

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs defeating the Los Angeles Chargers on a last-second FG, Josh Allen's six touchdown performance in a ...Buffalo Bills loss to the Los Angeles Rams, Philadelphia Eagles WRs calling out offense in win over Carolina Panthers, Russell Wilson and Steelers beating Browns, and much more!05:15 - Introduction07:10 - Chargers v Chiefs20:50 - Rams v Bills27:15 - Vikings v Falcons38:47 - Eagles v Panthers55:15 - 3.1 million dollar bet on eagles to beat panthers1:01:50 - Steelers v Browns1:08:30 - Saints v Giants(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:47 11 a.m. Eastern Time? I mean, I don't know who got cute with this bullshit, but okay. We can die. The Chiefs survived with a joint game-winning field goal to defeat the Chargers
Starting point is 00:08:03 19-17. This is Kansas City's ninth consecutive AFC West division titles, and it came courtesy of a joint field goal. Ochoa, look. Yes, yes, there are, you know, luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. But if you look at it, the third down, I mean, Mahomes is running for his life the whole night, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Ain't a whole lot of quarterbacks can do what he's doing because he's jumping, throwing the ball, Ocho. He's getting out of harm's way, scrambling. Different arm angles. Yeah. He is. Yeah. And, you know, you're like that final drive, that doink. But if he doesn't make the play that he's making on the second down, on the third down,
Starting point is 00:08:48 they're not even positioned to get a doink attempt at a field goal. Let alone that situation, that third down. I mean, they tick me off with some of the, they got a third and one and they throw a pass. And then they come out the next possession and they run it on first and 10. Why didn't you just run it? You know, the fact that they're trying to throw everything off, they're trying to keep the charges unbalanced.
Starting point is 00:09:09 They're trying to keep them unbalanced. What you think, what you think we're going to do based on our normal tendencies. If you, if you studied and watch film, we're going to do the opposite. Yeah. We're going to do the opposite.
Starting point is 00:09:20 So it's 31. You think we run him the ball right up the gut with Pacheco? We're not. You know what? Now we'll throw it this time. It's 37. You think we throw the ball right up the gut with Pacheco? We're not. You know what? No, I'm going to throw it this time. Yeah. It's 37. You think we throwing the ball now?
Starting point is 00:09:29 You know what? We're going to hand it off to Pacheco. Right up the A gap, the B gap. I'm like, what the hell is y'all doing? Yeah, I was asking myself that very question. I looked at a stat, Ocho. At one point in time, the Chiefs had 19 pass attempts. They had given up three sacks and 12 pressures.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So only four times had Mahomes had a clean pocket. You look at the total yards. The Chargers had 288. The Chiefs had 298. The Chargers had 94 yards rushing. The Chiefs had 96 yards rushing. Now you see why the game was close. Because look at the stats. The stats were
Starting point is 00:10:06 basically, so now basically you got, you're dealing with a 12 yards of separation between the two teams. Right. Therefore, you're going to get a game like this. But Mahomes is always really good when he has
Starting point is 00:10:22 to be good. And that's the mark of a great. That's it, Ocho. Every time. Hold on. I got to say, you know, sometimes, you know, sometimes you slip up, but he's not having any slip ups. Every game, every time, every call is going your way. The ball is bouncing your way.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Every time. Can somebody else get some? You're going to have to listen. You don't want it to be a one possession game because you know you don't feel comfortable. He's Tom Brady. With two minutes left
Starting point is 00:10:58 in the game, you need to be up by 21 points against the Patriots. Because if it's a one possession game and he needs a field goal to beat you, oh, he's going to get a field goal range. If he needs a touchdown to beat you, nine times out of 10, it was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Right. And that's what we're seeing with Patrick Mahomes. Yes, yes. I mean, look, you talk about 14 years of playing, 20 years of covering it, another 12 years of watching it as a kid. I ain't never seen nothing like this, man. Nah. I ain't never seen nothing like it.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I ain't going to sit here and lie and say, oh, I'm just one team. Nah. Even the Patriots, and the Patriots used to get breaks, but not all these breaks in one season. They might get about four or five breaks one season, four or five breaks the next season, but like, they got ten breaks in one season. four or five breaks the next season, but like they got ten breaks
Starting point is 00:11:45 in one season. Back to back. In one season. It's unbelievable what they're able to do. Look, it's not so much the offense, because look, the offense, and this is a fine
Starting point is 00:12:02 way to play, but you see their defense is starting to show some wear, Ocho. That back end, that back end can be had. And now Spaz has to bring pressure in order to, well, he. Say they ass. Now listen. Go ahead. Speaking of tonight's game, listen.
Starting point is 00:12:23 The fact that Quinn Johnson, Smart, Jordan Palmer, they have to be better. Tonight's game, that goddamn pass where Herbert missed the post route. He missed two of those. Two of them, right? That's 14 points. You can't miss those passes against a team like Mahomes. You have to hit those plays. You hit those plays.
Starting point is 00:12:48 That's the difference in the game. I kept saying it to myself. Matter of fact, I'm mad. Ladd McConkie, if you see this, I'm mad as you. Because if you played, if you played, the game would have been different. I guarantee y'all would have won. I guarantee y'all would have won if you had played. You know, they didn't. game would have been different. I guarantee y'all would have won. I guarantee y'all would have won if you had played. The receiving court,
Starting point is 00:13:08 they stepped up, but they didn't step up to the magnitude they needed to to win the game. You just got to hit those throws. You got to make those throws. We used to say this all the time. When you get the Patriots, they're going to give you an opportunity. Now, you're not going to get many of them, but you got to catch the ones that
Starting point is 00:13:23 you do get. When you get those opportunities, and those are walk-in touchdowns, that's what they are. You don't have to do anything spectacular. You don't ask your guys to make outstanding catches. Hey, all he did was nod. I don't know why. I'm thinking the mic back is supposed to continue to run down the hole. I don't know why he stopped.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Now, I get Cook. You got to buy it because he runs the seven route. That's your responsibility. So he ran a great route. He got him off his spot. Herbert, you got to put that on him. Even if it's not a walk-in touchdown, it's got to be a 30, 40-yard gain, Ocho. But you can't flat out miss it.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Miss him. If anything, on the throw at least. Yes. Don't miss him. Don't miss him long. Miss him short. Miss him short. Miss him short.
Starting point is 00:14:16 But Kansas City, this is their ninth consecutive AFC West title. They've had a run. I mean, somebody's going to have to knock him off the podium, and it's going to be hard. Look at the Patriots. The Patriots won how many? The Patriots probably won like 18, 19, and Brady's 20 years.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And so you're going to have... And Mahomes got at least, barring Andrew, everybody hopes that doesn't happen, you're going to have to play some of your best football to beat him because Kansas City's not going anywhere because as long as they got him and you got to realize he's not even 30, Ocho. So you're probably going to have to deal with this for another decade. Another decade.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Now, go ahead. You know what else? They are playing. They're not playing as efficient offensively. And the defense can be had. Yes. So when you play against a better team, the only team I think that can give them hell in the AFC
Starting point is 00:15:14 is probably the goddamn Bills. And the Bills already beat them. Yeah. Now, the problem with the Bills playing the Chiefs is the fact that in the goddamn playoffs, the goddamn Chiefs are 3-1 versus the Bills. As opposed to the goddamn regular season. 1-3.
Starting point is 00:15:30 1-3. 1-4. Something like that. I think it's going to be interesting. They do play the Steelers. So we'll see what they can do with the Steelers' defense. The Steelers can make plays. The Steelers won,
Starting point is 00:15:40 and we're going to talk about this game later today. Hickens didn't play, and they still found a way to get 27 points on the board Russ is playing extremely well I don't know if God was busy and he didn't hear Jameis that he was going to deliver him from turning the ball over
Starting point is 00:15:55 but for whatever reason that prayer didn't get answered today so it's going to be very interesting to see how the Chiefs match up with the Steelers. What are you doing? Hey, you got me. My camera tilted, man.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Am I tilted to you? You look tilted, yeah. Hell, I thought I had vertigo. Damn, man. Other way. Yeah. How it look now? Tilted.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I'm just going to have a tilted camera. Come on. But Kansas City wins on a doing field goal. They win by three. 1917. No, they win by three 1917 you know they went by two excuse me 1917 um Mahomes was great he had to come out of game winning drive and he did what he had needed to do and uh they win the ninth consecutive division title and I think they moved to 12 and one right so yeah they have four games left 12 and one yep that's crazy, yeah, they have four games left. 12 and one. Yep. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Next game, Chad would really like, yeah, they would like for you to fix that. Also, your camera, I mean, it's really crooked, bro. It's like, Oh, it is?
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yes. Hold on. Hold on. Y'all, y'all, y'all be with me now. Huh? Is your camera like this? Because that's how it's shooting. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:17:40 No? No. Dang. You got it sitting on something? Nah, I got it on the same thing it's always on. I think I tightened it down a little. I think I tightened it a little too tight. Yeah, go back, go back, go back, lead it back.
Starting point is 00:17:58 It needs to go that way. It seems like it's like, yeah, now you go back a little bit more yes no too much too much too much god damn boy you think I ever you ever think I'd be in a car with you driving this joke on the interstate it did
Starting point is 00:18:16 chat man y'all think I'd be in a car driving with this dude here, man? Hey, hold on. Hey, I'm scared. I'm scared to mess it up now. What you mean mess it up? It's already effed up.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Damn. It's like your camera's like this this and it needs to be like this right hold on hold on hold on have mercy that's the best we gonna get you know he ain't play no Legos he ain't never build nothing so he don't really have
Starting point is 00:19:11 I think it's a desk it ain't me I'm out of town I'm not home I'm in Connecticut so I think it's the desk the desk is lopsided and it's causing the camera not to be you know like well they don't have a book they don't have something that you can put slightly upon it to adjust for it being lopsided and it's causing the camera not to be, you know, like. Well, they don't have a book.
Starting point is 00:19:26 They don't have something that you can put slightly upon it to adjust for it being slightly. I mean, clearly you never had a three-legged table when you was growing up. You didn't have, everything was clearly not. Actually, actually, actually, actually, when I was growing up, we didn't have no tables at all. Matter of fact, when I was growing up, we didn't even have furniture. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Well, you're in. Yeah. So. Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, chat, if I'm lopsided. If anything, if y'all want to tilt your head to the side a little bit. I tilt my head to the side.
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Starting point is 00:25:39 The Rams pull off the upset of the week. The Rams defeat the Bills in a week 14 thriller as the team combined for 12 touchdowns, 86 points, zero turnovers, and if I'm not mistaken, no sacks. Josh Allen is the second player in NFL history to record three passing touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns in the same game. He joins Hall of Famer Otto Graham of the Cleveland Browns, pulled off
Starting point is 00:26:10 the feet when the Browns defeated they won 56-10 in the NFL championship game over the Lions. The Bills allowed scores on six of nine possessions. The rush defense allowed 94 yards rushing in the first half
Starting point is 00:26:25 and the team's lead leading 14-game streak of at least one takeaway ended. Ocho? Yeah. Are you concerned about the Bills now? You know what? I'm really not concerned about the Bills. Honestly, I'm not concerned about the Bills.
Starting point is 00:26:41 If they were going to have a game like this, let's get it out the way now. Obviously, the Rams offense has always been high power. Cooper and the Cougar are just coming back and just getting into rhythm as far as the offense is concerned. So you got a glimpse of what they can do when they are fully healthy.
Starting point is 00:26:59 So I'm not really concerned, you know, with McDermott and the Bills. I think they're going to be fine. If you look at the number Josh Allen put up today, no turnovers, right? Nope. No turnovers today. But he played very, very well for a quarterback that needs,
Starting point is 00:27:14 if quarterback that needs to win a game. Defensively, they gave up, what, six to nine? Six to nine possessions? Yep. With what, touchdowns? Yep. Now, that's the back end. That's not on Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:27:25 That's not on the Bills. That can be fixed because the Bills defense is good. Outside of that, I think this is the game that got away from him. It is an upset. I consider it a goddamn trap game. I consider it a trap game. But if you're going to lose, let's get it out. Let's get it out of our system now.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Let's get it out of our system now. So we're going to fix whatever we need to fix before we get to the goddamn playoffs. You know what I think about the thing that I think that, look, Tom, when I think about Tom Brady, I think the thing that's most impressive about him is not, yeah, the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:27:57 I don't want to say the most, yeah, seven Super Bowls are impressive. All the records that he has are very impressive. But Tom understood early on in the game what type of game it was going to be. It was going to be. He knew that early, too. Early. And so knowing that, he knew that, you know what, guys?
Starting point is 00:28:20 We can't have, we can't settle for field goals, and we can't miss possessions where we come up empty-handed. Remember, Buffalo spotted him 2014. Right. So you put yourself behind the eight ball. So now you've got a hope, and your defense is already struggling. The likelihood of your defense shutting them down twice will allow you to get back in the game.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And then when you got it, you didn't get a touchdown. You got a field goal. Yeah. So, you gotta, you're gonna have, he's gonna have to be mindful of that. And that's the thing
Starting point is 00:28:50 when I'm talking about Joe. Joe, Joe is, he knows his defense is terrible. At least, at least Josh is like, man, this is an anomaly.
Starting point is 00:28:58 My defense hadn't played this bad all year. Yeah, right. We hadn't played this bad all year. Hmm. Joe knows his, from, from the, man, we, we, we gonna suck this year. Yeah, right. We haven't played this bad all year. Joe knows from the – man, we're going to suck this year. I got to be – no, for real talk though, Ocho, man, look here.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Not only can I not turn it over, Ocho, guess what? I've got to score damn near every possession because if we go down – if we get the ball first and we don't score when i come back on the field we're gonna be down points the question is how many is it gonna be three or is it gonna be seven but we're gonna be down points ocho and and josh i mean look i mean what he had 420 something yards of total offense just by himself ojo crazy work six touchdowns crazy work and but yeah you suppose you put up numbers like that you're supposed to win the game you're supposed to win you should but you can't spot it oh you can't spot a team now you got to realize you're on the road right you spot a team 14 you're gonna catch hell catch hell coming. Oh, trying to come back?
Starting point is 00:30:05 Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Especially if your defense is struggling like they were struggling today. But Ocho said he's not concerned. Josh Allen, I still think he's the MVP front runner. But Saquon is right there on his heels. Josh Allen was 22 of 37, 342, three touchdowns, zero interceptions,
Starting point is 00:30:30 no sacks. He led them in rushing, 10 carries, 82 yards, another three touchdowns. Shakira was 5 for 106 in the tub. Amari Cooper played extremely well, 6 for 95, but he did have 14 targets, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Matthew Stafford was equally as impressive. 23 of 30, 320, two touchdowns, zero sacks, zero interceptions. Puka Nakua, 12, buck 62, one touchdown. Cooper Cupp, five, 92, one touchdown. Tutu, three for 45. Tutu. One touchdown. 2-2. 3 for 45. 2-2. 2-2. Miami's finest.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Dade County, Liberty City legend. Yeah. That's the game. Look, when I go to a game, that's the kind of game I want to see. I ain't going to lie. Everybody talking about defense and big heads. Damn the big heads. I want to see some points on the board.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I go to a baseball game, I want to see 12-11. I want to see 10-9. I ain't coming to see no 2-1. I ain't coming to see 1-0. I'm not a baseball game, I want to see 12-11. I want to see 10-9. I ain't coming to see no 2-1. I ain't coming to see 1-0. I'm not a purist. I want scores. I want points. NBA, I want you to see y'all get up and down. I want to see 135 to 130,
Starting point is 00:31:36 131, 133. I want points. I ain't trying to see no 85, 90, 85 to 92 ball game. I ain't no purist like that. I want to see points because that's where it's headed. That's what I've grown accustomed to. So now don't pick the game that I come to.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Now all of a sudden y'all can play defense and I got to watch a 10-7 ballgame or a 10-9 ballgame. Nah, that ain't what I'm here for. The Vikings beat the Falcons. Oh! Huh? The who? The Vikings beat the Falcons. Oh! The who? The Vikings. Well, Sam
Starting point is 00:32:08 Darnold earned himself a contract, boy. It might not be with the Vikings, but he earned a contract with somebody. But go ahead, I'm going to finish. The Vikings beat the Falcons. The Vikings beat the Falcons 42-20 behind Sam Darnold's first five-touchdown game. The win was the sixth in a row for Kevin
Starting point is 00:32:24 O'Connell's club, who improved to 11-2. Kirk Cousins in his last four games, zero touchdowns, eight INTs. Ocho. Sit him down. Sit his ass down. Ocho, is it time? Now, they're only one game back.
Starting point is 00:32:41 They're one game back at Tampa. Is it time for them to sit Cousins down and play Penix Jr.? Understanding the business, understanding the business and how the business works, and based on what Kirk Cousins has done in his resume from the past, they're probably going to keep playing him because they're only one game back from Tampa. If it was me, if I was the coach, if my name was Mr. Was, damn, what's the head coach's last name?
Starting point is 00:33:10 Oh, you're talking about Atlanta Falcons? Yeah. Raheem? Yeah. Man, listen, I was about to say D'Amico by accident. Yeah. If I was Raheem, listen, if we won game back
Starting point is 00:33:25 and he playing like that I'm going to switch to Pennix anyway even though Pennix doesn't have the experience that god damn Kirk has and Kirk has the god damn experience
Starting point is 00:33:33 and he playing like that well hell I might as well take my god damn loss and if we going to lose and lose this way I'm going to lose with my rookie and get some experience
Starting point is 00:33:39 I'm going to lose with my first pick my eighth pick in the god damn draft man Kirk Cousins what what are you doing, boy? Do you need LASIK or something? Maybe you need LASIK. He playing bad.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I don't know what it is. He playing bad, Ojo. Ain't no way around it. He playing bad. You can't throw four interceptions last week, right? Yep. You can't throw four interceptions. Then you go back, you watch film, you practice all week long,
Starting point is 00:34:04 and come back the next week and then throw some motherfucking moat. Something ain't right. You trying to throw the game? You betting somewhere? Something ain't right? Come on,
Starting point is 00:34:20 man. What you doing? Guys, we have a playoff opportunity at hand yeah you know we think well enough to i mean actually the nfc south is motherfucking horrible honestly you think about it it's that's why everybody has a chance raheem did say raheem moore is the head coach um raheem did say that cousins is their starting quarterback after the game. You know, coaches lie all the time. Coaches and owners lie all the time. I mean, didn't Dave Kanellis just say that before he benched Bryce Young?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Didn't he say that? You know, in the next day, what happened? Or maybe a few hours later? Oh, Sam. I mean, not Sam. Bryce. Damn it. He benched Bryce and put in Andy Dalton.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And put in Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So listen, you take anything coaches and owners say with a grain of salt. With a grain of salt. I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow morning, tomorrow morning or maybe Tuesday in the off day, they make a change and a statement comes out, Penning Jr. is now the starting quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I would be very surprised they did that because considering they're only one game back. If they were, you know, a couple of games back, I see you make that. Because still, Tampa has to play. Tampa has to go to play the Cowboys. They got a tough schedule. It's not like they, you know. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Time out, time out, time out.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Did you hear what you just said what you just said don't even go together you said you just said Tampa still gotta play the Cowboys they got a tough schedule
Starting point is 00:35:53 they do they got some games on the schedule that uh well okay how about you mention mention the tough game
Starting point is 00:36:01 don't mention the Cowboys how about that how about that okay uh no disrespect to them I'm just saying okay check this out they got the charges they got the charges the tough game, don't mention the Cowboys. How about that? Okay. No disrespect to them. They got the Chargers. They got the Chargers next week.
Starting point is 00:36:12 That's a good game. The week after that Sunday night, they got the Cowboys. On the 29th, they got the Panthers. And on the 5th, they got the Saints. And you know what's funny? The Saints are playing really bad right now.
Starting point is 00:36:28 You know what's funny? The Panthers are making it a game no matter who they're playing. Yeah, we're going to talk about that. Let's say that. We're going to talk about that because we got some words for legit, for legit.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I ain't going to jump down. Oh, you're talking about Xavier. Legget, legget, leg it, leg it. Sam Donald and the Vikings haven't discussed the long-term deal. They're not. They just drafted a quarterback with a top-10 pick. What are we discussing? No.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah, but it's a good thing, though, huh? It's a good thing for Sam because his resume. The other teams that need a quarterback. Yes. The other teams that need a quarterback. So he's setting himself up beautifully. The only problem is, depending on where you go, you ain't going to have no goddamn Justin Jefferson
Starting point is 00:37:09 and Jordan Addison at your motherfucking disposal. And Hawkinson. That won't matter. And Aaron Jones. Oh, man, shit. But don't get me started, boy. So, Bayer, this is not to take away anything from you, Mojo. Don't mess up his bag. Don't mess up his bag.
Starting point is 00:37:27 He's playing extremely well. Yeah. He is. There's no denying that. But I hope you got similar weapons. I ain't saying you gotta have those exact weapons, but you better have close to them.
Starting point is 00:37:43 It ain't too many like 18 and 3 out there now. Too many out there like 18 and 3. Yeah. Yeah, we'll be at. I don't think I'm not surprised that Minnesota is not
Starting point is 00:38:03 thinking a long-term deal. Now, if they didn't have a quarterback, if they hadn't taken a quarterback in the top 10, okay, yeah. Or whenever they took J.J. McCarthy, okay, I get that. But I got a quarterback that's a first-round pick that I believe is the quarterback of the future. Why am
Starting point is 00:38:20 I going to give this man a long-term deal? I mean, $40 million. $40 million. Wait a minute. Good question. I got a question for you real long-term deal? I mean, $40 million. Wait a minute. Good question. I got a question for you real quick. J.J. McCarthy, what was his injury again? What is his foot?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Was it his foot? It might have been. I'm not sure what it was, Ocho. Don't start me to lie. I want to say it was a lower leg. So I don't know if it was an ACL. I don't know if it was a foot, legs. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Because he's so young, do you think they need to have security with the way Sam Darnold is playing? Do you think they can rely on J.J. McCart to be the quarterback of the future? I'm not having no $40 million insurance policy. Okay. Okay. I'm just curious. I just want to know, Chad, what y'all think?
Starting point is 00:39:05 Should the Minnesota Vikings pay Sam Darnold so they have a census security once J.J. McCarthy comes back? He tore his meniscus. Oh, okay. That's not bad. That's not bad. And he's young. And that's probably his first serious
Starting point is 00:39:22 injury. That's not an ACL. That's not a serious injury. That's not an ACL. That's not a PCL. That's not an Achilles. That's not a patella tendon. Knock on wood. I mean, obviously, any injury is. All injuries are minor.
Starting point is 00:39:39 They're major as long as they're on somebody else. On you, they're major. On somebody else, they're minor. But he didn't, like I said, he didn't have, you know, they erred on the side of caution. We got Sam Darnold. We got a guy that's been in the league. We got a guy that we believe we
Starting point is 00:39:54 can win with, with the talent that we surrounded him with. You know, you got Jetta. You got Addison. You got Hawkinson. You got Aaron Jones. Son, if you don't turn the ball over, if you don't turn the ball over, if you don't turn the ball over with the defense, the Brian Floyd's got that defense flying around,
Starting point is 00:40:10 we'll be okay. You just got to make sure. Well, see, that's the good thing. See, that's the good thing. So maybe it's not a bad deal. You sign into a short-term deal. It don't have to be four or five years. It could be two.
Starting point is 00:40:21 It could be two or three years. Listen, and allow J.J. McCarthy to continue to develop behind him one more year. Because he hadn't had a chance to develop yet. J.J. McCarthy was going to be a starter. You don't want to throw him out there, huh? After coming off an injury, though. They was going to throw him out there out of college.
Starting point is 00:40:37 He was the starter. Yeah, but now you're behind eight ball times two. Because now, you don't have a year under your belt. you don't have a year on your belt, you don't have a year on your belt, and you're coming back with an injury on top of that. So it's even worse. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:40:51 How they looking for the Falcons? They gave Kirk Cousins all that money, and you got Michael Pennington. So how they looking for them? Now you just said they need to sit Cousins down. But he got $80 million of their dollars over the first, no, he got $112 million over the first three years. Okay, well, he got $112 million over the first three years
Starting point is 00:41:11 and he got eight picks in the last two games. You making my point for me now. You know that, right? But Sam Donner ain't throwing no goddamn interceptions, though. Hey, but I'm saying that before he got on this streak, neither was Cousins. Remember how they were? I'm just saying that's a very expensive insurance policy.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you took J. McCarthy, he was going to be your starter. You were very impressed with him. Do I believe Donald has played his way into a contract for some team? Yes. Absolutely? Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I just don't believe it's Minnesota.
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Starting point is 00:47:38 Saquon set a new franchise, single season, Russian record moving past LaShawn McCoy's 1,607 yards in 2013. He took over first place midway through the fourth quarter and finished the game with 1,623 yards. The chance of MVP broke out to his achievement as it was announced in the
Starting point is 00:47:58 stadium. It was Saquon's night 100-yard rushing game this season, which is also the most in Eagles history. Hurts' numbers was pedestrian, 14-21, 108 yards. A.J. Brown had four catches, 43 yards, and threw his helmet in anger after a three-and-out, and Devontae Smith had four catches for 37 yards. What do the Eagles need to improve on? Brown passing.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Smith being on the same page, thinking about the same thing, seeing the right signals, just going out there and making it work. Yeah. Hold on. Carolina had a 16-14 lead
Starting point is 00:48:40 going into the fourth quarter. Even as the Eagles reclaimed the lead, Young led the Panthers on a final drive. Looked for a brief moment like he had won the game xavier leggett appeared to catch the ball in the end zone that our second down with 52 seconds left but it turned out it was an incomplete pass as the panthers fell short on third and fourth downs think about what that would have done for a young quarterback 98 yards one of the top teams in the NFC Ocho we're on the road yeah
Starting point is 00:49:11 at some point okay look Ocho and I gave you a pass because you dropped that one and you did this and you said you gotta be a better job now I'm tired of hearing my fault I'm tired of hearing my bad we'll get them next time well that was the next time. Why you diving
Starting point is 00:49:28 for a ball? Oh, Charlie, I do it. He's run. He diving for a ball he doesn't need to dive for. Right. It's comfortability. Confidence is not where it should be. I'm a little unsure of myself.
Starting point is 00:49:42 No, I'm unsure of my hands. So I want to try to get it into my body. That's why you see guys jump. I'm like, bro, why you jump for a ball that's going to hit you in your chest and you catch it in your bread basket? Because I'm unsure.
Starting point is 00:49:58 So I want to try to get as big a target in front of it as I possibly can, Ocho. Possibly can, yeah. Bro, Ocho, can you imagine what this would have done not only for Bryce Young, but for this team? They go 98 yards on the road. To win the game and upset, and upset the best team in the NFC. Well, that's an argument, but that's debatable.
Starting point is 00:50:24 But still. Back to the Eagles. What's going on with the Eagles? I mean, you're going to have games like this. You're going to have games like this. You got two alphas. One of the few teams in the NFL, and I say this all the time,
Starting point is 00:50:38 that have two number ones on their team, no matter what people may say. Two receivers, two different seal sets, they get it done two different kinds of ways, but it's two number ones. You got two alphas in Devante Smith and AJ Brown, but you're going to have games like this. They need to understand that you're going to have games,
Starting point is 00:50:55 but you don't have the numbers you want to get. No matter what you do, you're going to have Jalen Hursey going to have games like this with the numbers are low. We plan to give the team that you think you're supposed to be. The Carolina Panthers. They know goddamn slouch no more. They're playing against a team that you think you're supposed to beat. The Carolina Panthers ain't no goddamn slouch no more. They're playing well against everybody they play
Starting point is 00:51:09 to this point, if you're paying attention to them. Bryce Young is playing his ass off. That defense is playing his ass off, which is why the numbers were as low as they were today. There's a reason why. You're going to have games like this, AJ, Devontae Smith. I know it's about being on the same page.
Starting point is 00:51:26 You can be on the same page. And no matter which way you flip, if the other team has your number, it ain't going to work. It's nothing. It's nothing you can do. You know what's going to happen next year? You know what's going to happen next week? What? The motherfucking Eagles can go out there and they're going to have a field day in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:51:42 They're going to have a field day in the passing game. It was Saquon day to day. It're going to have a field day in the passing game. It was Saquon's day today. It's going to be games like this. I've had games like this. TJ and I have had games where we're playing a team. Oh, man, we're going to go out and have 400 yards, 20 yards a piece receiving. And it's going to
Starting point is 00:51:57 be nothing like that. But I understood game to game, it always varies and it always changes. If I say, AJ, you know what? Number 11, well, he ain't catching nothing today. We don't care what you do. We going to let Saquon beat us. If he do it, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:52:12 But 11, you ain't getting nothing. There's some team that will do that and don't care. Nothing about it. AJ saying, you keep saying it be games like this, but I see Saquon got 900 yard game. So why he ain't had no games like this? AJ say, I see three catches, I see four catches, like
Starting point is 00:52:32 in the last six weeks, I be I say three, four, five catches. What I supposed to do with that? Can I tell you something? Yeah. Can I tell you something? AJ Brown and Devontae Smith, you understand you motherfuckers are so goddamn great. The reason Saquon Barkley is still getting the numbers he's getting, because he ain't seen no goddamn eight, nine-man box, because you niggas is on the field.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Excuse my language. I'm sorry. My bad. My bad. My bad. I'm just getting a little passionate. That's how good you are. That's a testament to you.
Starting point is 00:52:59 That's why he get the numbers he getting, because they still W anyway. That's why he only had 40-something yards a day. You know what? If we're going to lose a day, it ain't going to be by number 11. It ain't going to be by number 6. We're going to let 26 get his numbers. We're going to let him do what he do. Are you surprised that they disforced their displeasure in the manner in which
Starting point is 00:53:22 they did? Because you know when you say we need to prove at passing, you know me on the same page, you know who that points back at, right? Yeah. Yeah, a little bit. I don't think they at that moment, in that present time and moment, understand it though.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Okay. Emotional. Think about Jordan Addison. Free me. Speaking out vocally about wanting the ball. Look at this motherfucker now. Jesus Christ. Ever since he said something.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Look at Jordan Addison. Going crazy. You know what? Let's find ways to put little young bull in position to make the plays. So next week, what is the offensive coordinator going to do? You know the young bulls are upset right now out there in Philly. Let's find creative ways to move around and have special design plays when the 15-play script and the next game we got coming up.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Let's find ways to get in the ball. Get in the ball early. Let them feel and touch the ball early so we got them the whole game. They're going to be all right, though. They're going to be all right. You've seen this before. I've seen it before you know so i i understand it i understand it but right now you're winning baby you're winning so they might say there's no room for it but your alphas need to touch the goddamn rock you got to make them feel like they are part of
Starting point is 00:54:40 the offense you got to make them feel like they're contributing to the success in helping the team win. That's all. I think what is happening is that it's tough when y'all don't get the ball early. AJ didn't get a ball thrown his way into the waning moments of the first half. That's too long.
Starting point is 00:55:04 I don't care if Saquon is going eight bananas. Come on, bro. You can't let me go 20 minutes, 25 minutes, and don't give me a rock. Offers according to this have to be self-aware. Yeah. They have to be self-aware. You know that. You understand the type of player you have.
Starting point is 00:55:23 You understand the type of dog you have at that position. He's different. You understand and know how he's built. You understand his DNA. You know how he is. Just let him touch it. It ain't got to be nothing crazy. It could be a slant.
Starting point is 00:55:37 God damn it, just throw me a smoke. Throw a smoke screen. Boom, just get it out to me. Let me get jiggy with it. He going to be okay. He good. But to wait 15 minutes towards the end of the first quarter and then he get a ball?
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah, it's tough. Come on, man. It's tough and, you know, the frustration starts to build. And, you know, look, people look at the Carolina like, man, they sorry. And then before you know it, you don't let them be in the game and now they playing with confidence. And now you don't have confidence because you're not doing the thing that you thought you were going to be doing because you see them on film. But the Carolina team that y'all probably watched at the beginning of, y'all watching tape on them, that's a different team than you watched the last three to four weeks now.
Starting point is 00:56:20 That's not the same team. They're playing different. Guys are making plays just not when they need to make the plays yeah they're leaving some of them plays out there some of them some of them come on baby
Starting point is 00:56:36 is it different than this is difference these plays is different than being good and being great. Yes. Yes. You start trending in the great direction when you make some of them catches. Because them catches that you're making is turning, how do you say it?
Starting point is 00:56:59 W's. W's. Yeah. The males turn to W's. Oh, yeah. The males turn to W's based on them catches. Yes. That you miss it.
Starting point is 00:57:07 That's when you start turning yourself into being great, not just a regular receiver. Bro, no. Baby, I need you. Boy, you got the opportunity to be more than just a number, boy. You got the opportunity to be more than just number 17. Come on, now. You better show me. Come on, boy.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Because what'll happen the quarterback gonna lose faith in you yeah lose faith well actually he doesn't have a veteran quarterback now a veteran quarterback will lose faith in you
Starting point is 00:57:35 now you you got a young boy like like Bryce Young he gonna keep coming to you nah he gonna keep coming you ain't
Starting point is 00:57:41 you got you got one of them veterans hey they don't play that you ain't got to keep coming. You got one of them veterans. Hey, they don't play that. That's why I said it. Like a Jonathan or a Tom. Oh, boy, they don't play that. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And you're talking about in moments like that? Oh, yeah. We ain't talking about the first quarter, Ocho. Hey, first quarter. No, bro. That's game winning time. That's moments. Game come down to moments.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And it seems like a lot of times the moments have been too big for him because we've seen it time and time again that he's been called upon. But it always happens like this, Ocho. Doesn't the ball always find the guy that's scared to have it in his hand? Yeah. Boy, that ball. Hey, throw in his hand. Yeah. Funny how that works out. Hey, throw me over there. Throw me over there. Let the ball talk.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Throw me over there. He open. But I still don't know why he dove. Bro, just keep running. Yeah. But when you don't have confidence in your hands, you try to get as much of your body in front of you as you possibly can. Listen, I know what you're going through.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I know what you're going through because I've done it before. I've done it before because I've lost my confidence. I've lost my confidence for a week, maybe two. And I'm all in practice jumping for the dig route. You know, not extending my hand until I get myself back in rhythm and get that confidence back. Yeah, I know what you're going through i know how you feel that's why i can sit here and talk about it i ain't gonna stand and act like oh yeah i was all nah i ain't gonna lie to you i drop a ball in front of everybody and i get to hear them little boobers a little bit
Starting point is 00:59:19 but that's just thing boy of course but that's sting. Of course. It take me a series or two to touch the ball and get my rhythm back and be like, boom. The thing is what happens, Ochoa, then all of a sudden you start to fight it. The ball comes up here and you double catch it. You know what I'm saying? You don't catch it clean. Because, you know, we like to catch the ball.
Starting point is 00:59:40 The ball go through here. Now the ball hit the heel of our hands. Pop up. You, oh, oh, oh. You're trying to catch it like uh uh uh-huh and then it start it starts to mess with you mentally yeah because i like i'm a hands catcher i know i'm a hands catcher and this is what i always used to tell the guys hell if you don't trust your hands why you think he should? Ugh.
Starting point is 01:00:07 That's a good one. That's a bar right there. Come on, now. Hurts was asked, did the conversation of being on the same page be happening this late in the season? Hurts, no, Hurts replied. I just say, no.
Starting point is 01:00:26 That's all you need to say. You don't need to say nothing else. No. Watch the Eagles' offense. Who the Eagles got this week coming up? All I know is I'm not. Oh, Pittsburgh. Now watch what happens.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Well, it better happen, because what can the Steelers do? He's not your quarterback. They can stop the run. I can relax. Guess what's going to happen? Guess can the Steelers do? He'll have to be a quarterback. They can stop the run. Yeah. Guess what's going to happen? Guess what AJ Brown and Devontae Smith are going to do? All right. Remember I said it
Starting point is 01:00:54 first. Hold on. Let me get this towel because I done messed up the flow. They're going to keep your deposit. This man got ashes all over the floor. No, I spilled the water. I spilled the water. You got ashes all over the floor nah I spilled the water I spilled the water you got ashes on the floor too I bet nah nah I got my ashes right here
Starting point is 01:01:13 oh smoking in the people room that's a non you hear me choking early I was drinking the water it went down the wrong pipe that's a non-smoking room. It's going to smell like smoke. Oh, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:01:30 I got stuff to get the smell out. Nah. I got Febreze. You see, I got Febreze and a candle from Bath and Body Works. I'm going to call them. Let them know you've been smoking in the room. You don't know what room I'm in. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Put your sink on. Whatever room you're in, it smells like smoke, doesn't it? And just to make sure they know, I'm going to send them this tape. But when they come in the room, it ain't going to work. Listen, I got, you got, listen, let me tell you what you do. You take a little thing of Fabuloso, right? Yeah. A candle
Starting point is 01:02:01 from Bath and Body Works, and I got Febreze and I mix it all together and I light it. And when I light it... That man about to blow him damn self up. You know, that Jerry,
Starting point is 01:02:18 like he's MacGyver. We call it Jerry, but you know what we call it? What? Henry. Oh, yeah,ed oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but uh uh leg uh leg it bro you got to make these plays man you too good of a player not to make these plays and they're going to continue the ball's going to continue to come to you until you make it yeah it's going to keep finding you it's going to keep finding you it's so funny when you don't even want it it's coming and the last thing you want is that when you home
Starting point is 01:02:49 and your fans start to boo you and that's what's gonna start happening now you're from that area they love you you're a hometown kid that made good but their fans they like they fans
Starting point is 01:03:04 and they expect so you drop a class in the first quarter you about to start to hear but they're fans. They like, they're fans. And they expect, so you drop a pass in the first quarter, you're about to start to hear the boos, bro. So I'm telling you, get out there, get on the jug machine. If you need to get some extra passes thrown your way by the backup quarterback, but hey, you got to bring your hands with you now. That's too many times. That's too many times you potentially put your team in harm's way.
Starting point is 01:03:27 It's time to put your big boy pants on. You're in the NFL. This ain't SC now. This ain't high school. This ain't Rock Hill. This ain't great. And now they say Mark's Corner. This ain't Somerville.
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Starting point is 01:09:14 or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, Joe, one of the largest bets ever reported on an NFL regular season game, a $3.1 million bet for the Eagles to beat Carolina. And it was $442,000 on the Eagles was in jeopardy until the last minute. So what, he bet $3.1 to win 442? Yes. So he won what, 442 grand?
Starting point is 01:09:54 442,000. But he bet 3.1 million. That's a nice flip, man. That's a real nice flip. They ain't no, bruh. No, I don't want that. I don't want, Ocho, I want to bet minimal and win maximum. How you bet 3.1 and you basically, you about to lose.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Well, about to, buddy. You said about to. Yeah, but I'm saying the objective is to bet $5 and win $5,000, not bet $5,000 to win $10. Well, what kind of, what were you gambling at like that? No, that's what I'm saying. That's what the draft came parlaying. Well, let's scare money don't make no money, baby. You got to put it on the floor if you're trying to earn it back.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Yes, I get that. But not that amount of money to win that little bit of money. Okay on the floor if you're trying to earn it yes i i get that but not that amount of money to win that little bit of money okay i see what you're saying you know if whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa man come on back down to reality with us regular folks now you talk about that that little bit of money 442 but you bet in 3.1 million he i thought it was 1.3 million No he bet 3.1 to win 442 Oh that don't make no sense right there That's what I'm saying yes Oh I thought it was only 1.3
Starting point is 01:11:13 No 3.1 Oh man that's dumb Yes if I bet 3.1 Ocho I'm trying to win 10.15 Yeah yeah yeah So you had me thinking I thought I could have swore when you said 1.3 that he bet 1.3. No, he bet
Starting point is 01:11:28 3.1 million and he won. It's kind of like that Mattress Jack. Yeah. Houston. What he bet? He bet 7 million on the Astros to win the World Series and he won 35 million.
Starting point is 01:11:43 That's okay. Now we talking. Hey, you know what, I got a question. Yes. I know mattresses, they sell and everybody need a bed. But ain't no way in hell
Starting point is 01:12:00 he got that kind of money from goddamn selling mattresses. Well, I think he'd be having, he'd be having like, if the Astros win this, the furniture you bought is free. So, yeah, so that's how, that's so
Starting point is 01:12:16 now, Ocho, I gotta try to get that, because you know, Ocho, you know people gonna come in and try to get some free stuff now. Yeah. I don't know, It's just a little sketchy, but okay. A little sketchy.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I don't know. You must got something in the magic. He's hedging his bet. So you got to be able to pay for the money that you lose for the furniture. So people come in there, you get a thousand people come in there, and they get, you know, $2,000, $5,000, $10,000 worth of furniture. So people come in there, you get a thousand people come in there, and they get, you know, $2,000,
Starting point is 01:12:47 $5,000, $10,000 worth of furniture. But you know, hey, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Yeah, yeah. Look, I used to gamble. I ain't play nothing like, you know, Dana be playing $100,000, you know, Dana Dana be playing you know 100,000 you know 25,000
Starting point is 01:13:06 100,000 a hand you know the most I would play the hand is probably like 12,500 12,500 that was like one or two hands I don't play like
Starting point is 01:13:14 but I ain't got the stomach for it now because I be because I used to I didn't look you played what yeah I played one hand couple of hands
Starting point is 01:13:22 12,000 a hand? Yeah. Did you win? I did. I won one, lost one, and I was like, the stomach, bro, because here's the thing. Like, when I'm playing smaller hands on show, I don't look at the chips on the table as money.
Starting point is 01:13:41 That's a chip. But when I put that $10,000 chip, now I couldn't get up. Now you start thinking, man, what can I do with $12,000? I'm good. Listen,
Starting point is 01:13:59 I don't understand. I'm just going to be honest with you. I done been around a lot of people that you like i done been around a lot of people that gamble i done been around a lot of people that got money and i never understood how they do it i never understood i just can't do it i never want to put my money in in harm's way and allow something else to be the reason why i lose it if i'm gonna lose it it's gonna be because of something i did if it's even, it's because of something I'm buying or purchasing.
Starting point is 01:14:27 I can't understand the concept of gambling for those that like to gamble. I don't like 50-50. Here's the thing. The thing is, Ocho, is that you're gambling on something that you have no control over. Because you're betting on games. It's not like you're playing in it. You're not playing the basketball. You're not playing baseball.
Starting point is 01:14:44 You're not playing football. At least if I shoot pool, okay, I'm shooting pool. Even if I'm rolling the dice, I got the dice in my hand. Especially if I'm playing hood dice. You know, I like to play hood. We used to play hood dice. I don't play... I don't play C-low.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Okay, okay, okay. But yeah, I just don't have the stomach for it anymore now. And so I haven't gambled. I think the last time that I gambled, me and Burns, this was way, way back. I think it was like the Mayweather-Holyfield fight. And that was the last time. And he and I was in there, and he was like.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Wait, Mayweather-Holyfield? I mean, Mayweather-Day La Jolla. Okay. Mayweather-Day La Jolla. That was the last La Hoya. Okay. Mayweather De La Hoya. That was the last time that I actually, he and I was at the table and we were gambling. But we used to gamble all the time. Wait, what, in $12,000 hands?
Starting point is 01:15:33 No, this was like in the 90s when I was playing. And I was making bread. You know, I made a little money. You know, a little money. I paid for it. Okay, okay, okay. Big money, big money. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:15:43 You know, I put it up there on show. Money played. Hey, that's what a dealer turn around. Money money. You know what I'm saying? I put it up there, Ocho. Money plays. Hey, that's what a dealer turns around. Money plays. You know what I'm saying? Come on with it then. Come on. Hey, cards gone money hunting.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Man, y'all better than me, boy. God, Lee, I don't understand. Man, it's like that sometimes. Russell Wilson threw two touchdown passes in the third quarter and the Steelers forced a key turnover in the fourth quarter to beat the third quarter and the Steelers forced a key turnover in the
Starting point is 01:16:05 fourth quarter to beat the Browns. The Steelers led 13-7 heading into the third quarter with Wilson and the offense pulling away with a touchdown pass to Van Jefferson and Pat Briarmouth to stretch the advantage to 27-7.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Pickens enacted for the rematch as the stage appeared to be set for a spicy rematch-7. Pickens, inactive for the rematch at the stage, appeared to be set for a spicy rematch. Instead, Pickens was held out of the game with a hamstring injury. With a win against the Browns, the Steelers emerged from a four-game divisional gauntlet with a two-game lead in the division. Though they've
Starting point is 01:16:38 secured another 10-week season, the Steelers have set their sights on much bigger goals, like winning the first playoff game since 2016, winning the first playoff game since 2016, hosting the first playoff game since 2020. They have a championship-caliber defense. They lead the NFL in takeaways, and the Browns added three more to that category for them on Sunday
Starting point is 01:16:57 and holding opponents to fewer than 19 points per game. Go ahead. I got a question. When George Picker's on the injury report during the week? I don't think he was. But all of a sudden he had a hamstring injury? I'm sure the NFL is going to want to talk to them if he wasn't on the injury report. That's something that they'll have to talk to the NFL about.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Man, man, fuck all that shit, man. Whoever's responsible for me missing out on the entertainment and the joy of having George Pickens and Greg Newsome pick up where Mike Evans and Marshawn Lattimore left off, I'm mad. If this was for disciplinary reasons, did I say that right? Yeah, disciplinary.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Why would it be disciplinary? What'd he do? I mean, we don't, I don't know. It just, I don't like the fact that they talking trash all week. That means he was ready to play. He talking trash all week. Greg Newsom talking trash. They got me hype.
Starting point is 01:17:59 You know, you got me hype. George Pickens and Greg Newsom. Y'all got me hype. I'm ready to see y'all go at it within the confinements of the game, of the game, still playing the game of football, but a little trash talk hitting and, you know, celebrating and talking trash to each other. You know, like a little Marshawn Lattimore and Mike Evans, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:18 a little Odell Beckham and Josh Norman. Like I was looking forward to that and I was robbed of that enjoyment today. I don't know why, but whoever's responding to me, Josh Norman. Like I was looking forward to that. And I was robbed of that enjoyment today. I don't know why, but whoever's responsible for me, whoever's responsible for me, not getting that entertainment from those two. Count your fucking days. Is that what I was looking for?
Starting point is 01:18:38 The man hamstring old choke. Nah, man. Nah, nah, man. Nah, man.
Starting point is 01:18:43 If you can stop playing, man, I look, I look, I look for i look vicariously live through you don't do that man whatever whatever got going on man come on pick man for real man come on man week in and week out i'm i'm watching you and i'm i'm a banger i'm waiting to see what you finna do each week and week out, boy, because you exciting. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know what you finna do. You know, you just be out there wilding, you know.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Come on. The man was hurt. No, man. Steelers look good, man. The Steelers look good. They had that little hiccup a couple weeks ago against the Browns, but they're good. It's going to be very interesting. They got the Eagles on the schedule. I still. It's going to be very interesting. They got the Eagles
Starting point is 01:19:25 on the schedule. I still think they got Kansas City on the schedule. So we're going to find out a lot more about the Steelers over the next three weeks. I mean, what more do we need to find out about? We're going to see when they play better teams.
Starting point is 01:19:42 When they play against better competition? I mean, Russell Wilson's going to rise to the occasion like he always has. Listen, Russell Wilson's the man of God. You know what happens when you're a man of God? God gives you favor. You know what happens when God gives you favor? You win in life at all that you do.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Everything you touch, boom, it turns to gold. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know because I'm one of them children of God too the thing I touched hey hey Pastor Ocho
Starting point is 01:20:10 Sunday they play Sunday they play the Eagles the following Saturday they play the Ravens that Christmas that Wednesday they play the Chiefs
Starting point is 01:20:19 well can I tell you what they're going to be? yes I'm going to tell you again turn to the book of Job, chapter 7, verse 5. He who put it before me, cup runneth over with whatever they need. And I'm going to make sure you're 3-0.
Starting point is 01:20:34 They got... And that's what their record is going to be. They got three games in 10 days. You didn't hear what I just said. I heard what you said. And they got... How many games they got? They got three games
Starting point is 01:20:45 in 10 days. How many days before Jesus rose again? Oh, well, they'll get some rest on January 5th because they got the Bengals.
Starting point is 01:20:54 He said they'll rest on that day. So, if they, if they best rather get Dubai, they'll be straight. They got,
Starting point is 01:21:01 they got a rest day coming on January 5th. Hey, you heard what I said, right? They got three games in 10 days. How many days was it before Jesus rose again? It was three, right? Sure. Jesus rose on the third day, right?
Starting point is 01:21:20 Yes. Jesus had 12 disciples, right? Yes. Two of the disciples went up and used Yes. Jesus had 12 disciples, right? Yes. Two of the disciples went up and used the bathroom. How many disciples left? I don't know if they would have been used the bathroom,
Starting point is 01:21:31 but okay, yeah. Yeah, two went to the bathroom and it was 10. So you get it? Yeah. Three games in 10 days. God has favor. Bam.
Starting point is 01:21:40 There it is. I think, I think Lamar go to church, too. I know Jalen go to church because he always got to cross on his sweatband. But hey, look, they got a tough schedule. They got a very, very tough schedule. You got the Eagles schedule they got a very very tough schedule
Starting point is 01:22:05 you got the Eagles you got the Ravens and I mean think about it you're on the road Eagles on the road Baltimore
Starting point is 01:22:12 and home your last two games at home home Chiefs home Bengals they got this in the bag the Bengals they got that in the bag
Starting point is 01:22:21 obviously it's gonna be good and you know what? Defense. Defense is going to carry them. Yeah. Defense is going to carry them. All Russell Wilson has to do is not turn over the ball,
Starting point is 01:22:34 and they're going to be fine. Take care of the football. The Saints beat the Giants on a blocked field goal. Giants fans have had enough of losing. Even before they saw the team drop an eight straight game, a plane flew over MetLife Stadium with the banner imploring ownership to get it together. Mr. Marr, enough. Please fix this dumpster fire.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Then the team went out there and found a different way to lose. This time, getting the game time field goal blocked in the final seconds of a 14 to 11 loss. Marr declined when asked about the playing. Why you declined to ask about the playing when they asked you about Kaepernick? You offered a lot of info. Never mind. We ain't gonna go to Ocho. These Giants are 2-11
Starting point is 01:23:18 and now have missed the playoffs 11 of the past 13 seasons. The Giants fell to 0-7 at home this season. They're averaging 10.1 per game at home. Neighbors said, they asked neighbors about that. He's like,
Starting point is 01:23:31 hell, I ain't played for the plane. Don't ask me. I ain't played for the plane. I did not play for the plane. He funny. He funny. You know what?
Starting point is 01:23:44 Listen, Giant fans, y'all might as well, y'all might want to chalk this season up because next year you're going to have a nice quarterback.
Starting point is 01:23:51 You're going to have a nice shiny toy. You know, I don't know. I don't know who it's going to be. I don't know who it's going to be, but it's going to be a nice new shiny toy.
Starting point is 01:24:00 And I know a guy that had on their roster that's playing really well right now. What position did he play on? Quarterback. Geno Smith. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:12 They ain't believing the young bull. Sometimes it takes for you going to somewhere for someone to see your true value. It takes sometimes you get these greener passes on the other side. Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, Gino Smith. Well, Gino wasn't going to be that in New York because they didn't have DK.
Starting point is 01:24:34 They didn't have Jackson Smith and Jigba. They didn't have Lockett. They don't have Noah Fant. They don't have a guy that can run the ball like Walker. They don't have a Carbino, Charbonneau, Carbino. So, and look, they, and they got Charbonneau, Carbino. Um,
Starting point is 01:24:45 so, and look, they, and they got, their defense is better than you would think. Now, are they the Legion of Boom? No.
Starting point is 01:24:52 But the defense is playing really, really well. And quarterbacks, I mean, look, he got guys that can make plays all over the field for it. It's really that simple. And so I'm glad he's not in New York because they still say
Starting point is 01:25:05 the guy can't play and sometimes you need to get somewhere where you got some weapons. Now, he's not a guy. He's not Brady. There have been very few guys that can elevate players. No matter who the player is, he can elevate them. But Geno got to a place that they believed in it and they got weapons.
Starting point is 01:25:21 They got a DK. They got a Jackson Smith and Jigba. They got Lockett. They got Fant. They got skilled position players, don't you, that can go make plays. Same thing with Baker. He got in a situation at Tampa and, well, we saw at Carolina, he had nothing.
Starting point is 01:25:38 The couple was better. It was even better than what it is right now. But he got some plays that guys can make plays for him, and he's playing exceptionally well. Sam Darnold, he got guys that can make plays. I mean, should we be surprised that he didn't make it in Carolina
Starting point is 01:25:54 and Baker didn't make it in Carolina? No. Right. Because they didn't have anything there. There's a reason why they got the first pick in the draft. There's a reason why they had the first, well, they got the second pick in the draft. They traded that to get the first pick. And there's a reason why the following year they had the first pick they had to live that away because chicago traded in the first pick the year before when they were second but no can't happen to a night hey i wonder he said you know the fans we got to make sure the
Starting point is 01:26:19 fans you know because you know the fans were not coming because of the anthem. I wonder how many fans showed up now. They standing for the anthem. It had nothing to do with no goddamn anthem, man. Moving right along. Hey, an anonymous Giants player gave OnlyFans model tickets to flash the Saints during the game.
Starting point is 01:26:43 What's he look like? You ain't got no video nah we got we got another we got uh the day is the night
Starting point is 01:26:48 we got about we got about 23 both days ah okay that ain't that ain't bad that's
Starting point is 01:26:55 that'll be we'll be right in January then yeah then we can go back to showing videos yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:27:04 I can't wait to show my video. The volume. The made for this mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during mental health awareness month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional wellbeing, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that
Starting point is 01:27:29 you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times, big economic forces show up in our lives in small ways. Four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. Small but important ways from tech billionaires to the bond market to, yeah, banana pudding. If it's happening in business, our new podcast is on it. I'm Max Chastin.
Starting point is 01:28:03 And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there.
Starting point is 01:28:32 And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco,
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