Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Chiefs take down Falcons, Ravens expose Cowboys, Saquon Barkley 2 TD day

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocino" Johnson discuss Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs moving to 3-0 with a win over the Falcons. Later, Unc and Ocho dive into Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson exposing the ...Dallas Cowboys, question the Eagles game plan despite Saquon Barkley's 2 TD day and much more!03:18 - SHOW STARTS04:50 - Chiefs beat Falcons16:00 - Ravens beat Cowboys33:17 - Eagles beat Saints42:11 - Vikings beat Texans51:30 - Panthers beat Raiders59:00 - Rams beat 49ers01:01:50 - Bears beat Colts(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:11 ball game, 22-17 over the Atlanta Falcons. They get a stop on a fourth down. Algier couldn't barge his way through on 31, so the Falcons have to go for it on fourth and inches and B. John Robinson, the ball carrier. And here it is, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:05:27 They covered up all the blockers. And they say, Nick Bolton, you got to make a play. B. John Robinson, you either got to run him over or you got to make him miss. He didn't either. And the Chiefs get the ball back. But listen, Bolton scraped better than the goddamn butter knife. He scraped, filled that hole right away.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So there was really nothing for B. John Robin to be able to do in that instance. For one, I'm questioning the play call on fourth and inches. If they got the box stacked, right? Yeah. Everything's covered, right? Yeah. So what's the first thing you do? You do something outside of the tendencies on which you would normally run on a fourth and inches. Man, I'm play action, faking it out the belly, and got the tight end maybe coming out the backside
Starting point is 00:06:08 and doing something different as opposed to what they think you're going to do on fourth and inches. They think you know you're going to run the ball. Do the complete opposite. Surprise them. If you're going to go for it, throw the whole deck out. Throw the whole kitchen sink out. Do something different in that scenario. I mean, Spags knew he had the right play call, and Bolton made a hell of a goddamn play.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I think in that situation, Ocho, you go with what you... Because if they throw that ball on fourth and inches, what are you going to say? Man, you got Bjarne Robinson. You took a top-10 pick. You got Alger right there in the backfield. Okay, well, you ran the ball. You got a top-10 pick. You ran the ball, and you still got stopped. Okay. Well, you ran the ball. You got the top 10 pick.
Starting point is 00:06:45 You ran the ball, and you still got stopped. Okay. You got to give the defense some credit. Spags did a great job of covering everybody up. When you cover all the blockers up, somebody's going to be free. Now, you tell your back. Because he ain't no block. He's unblocked.
Starting point is 00:07:00 You either got to run him over, or you got to make him miss. Those are your only two options. Because now, you've taken all your wide receivers off the field. you either gotta run him over or you gotta make him miss those are your only two options because now you've taken all your skill your wide receivers are off the field you brought in big personnel so they know you're gonna run the ball and if we can't look first of all if we can't get an inch hell we don't deserve to win the game mojo all you gotta do is stick your tongue out that's it but did you hear what you just said yeah listen the game of football is all about mind games. It's a game of chess between the two coordinators.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Now, you just said they brought big personnel in. Yeah. When you bring big personnel in, what's the first thing? What's the first thought? Okay, you know what? They're running the ball. Hello? Common sense.
Starting point is 00:07:38 The first thing. Trickery. Bring in big personnel. Play action fake. Do something different than what they expect you to do to surprise them and catch them off guard. I guarantee you got the first. They also missed the pass interference
Starting point is 00:07:51 in the end zone. I'm going to ask you what you thought about the pass interference chat. Kyle Pitts in the end zone. That was supposed to be pass interference because he's all over Pitts before the ball even gets there and doesn't turn around to look for the ball. That should have been a flag in the one-yard line. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I just hate to look. The Chiefs are going to have to do a better job once they get in the red zone, Ocho, of scoring touchdowns and not kicking field goals. That almost cost them again because you see, they're getting down there, they're getting down there. I mean, they had it first and goal set up for a field goal. They had it like on the
Starting point is 00:08:23 15 or the 10-yard line and set up for a field goal. They had it like on the 15 or 10-yard line and set up for a field goal. Eventually, that catches up with you. Kick and field goal loses you ballgame. Touchdown wins you game. They were very, very fortunate tonight to win this ballgame. Like I said, Cousins is so hampered by his... He's never been
Starting point is 00:08:40 mobile. So you imagine, it's kind of like Marino. When Marino tore his Achilles, Marino was never mobile, but once he tore it, where do you really, it's kind of like Marino. When Marino tore his Achilles, Marino was never mobile, but once he tore it, where do you really think he's going now? And you see how hard it is for him to run that stretch play, Ocho? It's all he got. And he's thinking about
Starting point is 00:08:56 it so much, he almost bobbled a ball. He almost fumbled one. Trying to get out there to stretch, and Bijan did a great job of scooping it off the turf with one hand, but it's really difficult. Bijan did a great job of scooping it off the turf with one hand. But it's really difficult. Spag did a great job of putting pressure on him, knowing that he's not going anywhere. Where is he going to go?
Starting point is 00:09:13 He's never been mobile. He's never been the most athletic quarterback. He could get a first down here and there. But, nah, tonight I thought the Chiefs defense has been playing unbelievable. You have to give those guys credit, Ocho. You have to give them credit. They've been playing unbelievable. Andy Reid is doing a great job of manufacturing.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Because think about it. He's without Hollywood. He loses Pacheco. And so now he's just trying to find ways. Rasheed Rice did a great job, 12 for a buck 10. But nobody else. Kelsey, 4 for 30 on five targets. Juju, two for 17, but he had a big touchdown,
Starting point is 00:09:50 13-yard touchdown. Worthy. So really nobody, but again, you see what they're doing. It's very balanced. 39 pass attempts, 33 rush attempts. You see the balance? Yeah. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:10:06 When I think about it, I know we're talking about the Chiefs. I'm thinking about the opportunities that the Falcons had to close the game. At the end, when they had the ball, the last year they had the ball. Spags, man-to-man on the backside, Drake London, 6'4", 6'5", whatever it may be. Put the ball in reach. That's touchdown. That's touchdown. That's touchdown. He's slipping.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Listen, the corner's playing hard outside. He slips up to me. And Kirk Cousins throws the ball short. Not only does he throw the ball short, he throws it far inside. You put a little bit more touch on that. The game is over. You win.
Starting point is 00:10:41 You say it all the time. The game is about moments. Making plays at the right time, making throws at the right time, making throws at the right time, making catches at the right time, it changes the trajectory of the game. And that right there, he makes that throw, the Falcons win the game. They get that pass and appearance in end zone, they win the game. Well, I mean, you're going to get Patrick Mahomes, what?
Starting point is 00:11:02 I think he had two to three timeouts and the ball back. So all they need is a field goal. Unless you go for two and get that. So now you're 25, 22, a field goal only ties you. They need to touch down to beat you. Yeah. And that was a great release by London.
Starting point is 00:11:13 That's a young corner over there. And he knows he can't give up. He can't give up an outside release. So he's playing hard outside. London stabs him outside, releases inside and did a great job. Did a great job. getting – And then stacked him. Did a great job, and he started widening.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Hey, I got you on the trail. I'm going to keep your ass in the trail position. And I don't know if Kurt thought he was going to stay where he was and not – because your job is, when you release inside, I've got to get back on my point because I've got to be 42 and 4. I've got to be four yards from the sideline. That's where the ball is coming. Plus, I've got a headache inside on my point because I got to be 42 and four. I got to be four yards from the sideline. That's where the ball's coming. Plus, I got a headache inside that's in the center field.
Starting point is 00:11:49 So I'm trying to get away from him as far away as I can because that's problems. So, look, it's either you and I have the luxury of sitting up here against hindsight and guessing, and we do see a lot of things that maybe they should have done differently or they could have done differently. I'm not so sure I'd do anything. Atlanta, I mean, if you really look at Ocho, Vijay Robin has 16 carries for 31 yards.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Algier has seven carries for 32 yards. So it wasn't like they were getting a whole lot running the football. I think they tried to run the football. You got to keep them honest, knowing that you don't have a quarterback that has limited mobility. So I've got to keep you honest. I think the Chiefs run the ball because they're
Starting point is 00:12:36 trying to protect that offensive line. We got to get some play action because if we just drop back and let them tee off on us, that's bad for us. But the Chiefs go on the road. They won a very tough ballgame, 22-17 over the Atlanta Falcons. But I still think the Falcons are a good team, Mocho. I think they're a good team.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I think the defense is young. But offensively, I think they're going to be okay. I really do. I like Pitts. I like Drake London. I like Mooney. They got two backs, one's power, one's speed. They just got to find a way to stop kicking field goals stop her because they go down the field and then they'll go three four
Starting point is 00:13:12 five possessions where they do absolutely nothing but you know the closer you get to the red zone the more difficult it is to score unless you score from far out yeah now once you figure those issues out i think they're gonna be fine fine. On the defensive end, listen, they got them two young boys back there, man. Second team all pros last year paired together. And Simmons and Bates, they're going to be fine. AJ Terrell is playing
Starting point is 00:13:35 good football, obviously. People say, he's getting burnt. Listen, every DB gets beat. That's part of the game. And, you know, the Falcons are going to be alright. They're going to be alright. They competed tonight. They competed tonight against the Super Bowl champs from last year.
Starting point is 00:13:52 If you can play that against them, the plays that you missed, those moments that you missed, you capitalize on those. We're having a different story tonight. We're having a completely different story tonight on who won the game. They've got to find ways to win these home games. They go on the road last week.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Ocho, remember, was that Monday night and they beat Philly in Philly? They lose at home to Pittsburgh. They lose at home to Kansas City. These are the games that you've got to win and give yourself some confidence
Starting point is 00:14:16 because they could easily be 3-0. They could easily be 0-3. But you've got to find a way to win these one-possession games more times than not. So right now, they're 1-2 in one-possession games. I think it was a one-possession game. Maybe Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:14:32 kicked a late field goal that made it a two-possession game. But if I'm not mistaken, I think it was at one point it was a one-possession game late in the ballgame with the Steelers and the Falcons the first game of the season. But give the Chiefs credit. They found a way to go on the road and win. Patrick Mahomes, 26 and 39, 217, two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And if you go back and look at Mahomes, it's not like he's playing great, Ocho. He's missing some throws. He had Rice on a shallow, and he throws it back here. People don't realize how hard it is to catch a ball when you're running full speed
Starting point is 00:15:04 one way. The opposite way and the ball behind you. That's hard. Somebody that caught football for a living, that's a very hard throw, a very hard catch to make. But he lost the ball in the end zone to Justin Simmons
Starting point is 00:15:19 because he stared him down. Justin Simmons was on the far hash center. Watching his eyes. Watching his eyes. And you see it. Watching his eyes the whole time. He's like, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:15:32 But that's something Mahomes can work on. It's something that he can probably do extremely well is you get that snap out of the gun or from under center and stare right down the barrel. Yes. Stare right down the barrel. To hold him. And then hold him a little bit. Then throw the barrel. Yes. Stare right, stare right down the barrel. To hold him. And then, yeah, and hold him a little bit, then,
Starting point is 00:15:46 then throw the ball. But, I mean, obviously Mahomes wanted to, to have his eye on the target, so he knows when to let it go. But it gives, it gives the safety a key
Starting point is 00:15:54 to let him know where you're going with the ball. Yep. You're right. So, Chiefs hold on for a victory. They move to 3-0. The Falcons lose 22-17.
Starting point is 00:16:03 They fall to 1-2. Lost two games at home, which is not good. But they got a nice roster. I love what Raheem is doing. And hopefully they can find a way to win one of these one-possession ballgames. Ocho, the Ravens go on the road. The Ravens go on the road. Survivor late.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Boy, that was a good-ass game, boy. The Ravens go on the road. Survivor late scare from the Cowboys. Boy, that was a good ass game, boy. The Ravens go on the road. Survivor late scare from the Cowboys to secure their first win of the season. Dallas lost the second straight home game to fall to one and two and had some issues to work out on the defensive side of the football. The Cowboys have allowed 557
Starting point is 00:16:40 yards rushing through that franchise's history through three games since 1963. Derrick Henry ran 151 yards on 25 carries and two touchdowns. Henry has his 12th career game with 150-plus rushing yards and two-plus rushing touchdowns. Tied for the second most in the NFL, tied with LaDainian Thomason,
Starting point is 00:17:05 one behind the legendary great Jim Brown. Henry told James Slater he was looking forward to this one after wanting to play for Dallas. He lives, he trains in Dallas in the offseason. After the game, Jerry Jones was asked
Starting point is 00:17:19 about upgrading the roster. He says he doesn't think that's an issue. I like our personnel. Jerry is delusional when asked specifically about not going after derrick henry this offseason we couldn't afford derrick henry jerry you know that unfortunately jerry that isn't true but here's the problem ocho and it's rearing his head again after building up a big lead baltimore was up by 22 and they almost gave it away.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah. Listen, the Cowboys have some things they need to fix on the defense end of the ball. Now the formula is out there. It's been out there. But teams are watching the game. How do we beat or get ahead on the Cowboys? You run the ball.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Not only do you run the ball, you run the ball right downhill, right through their throat. You don't need no tricks, no motion, no nothing. Put a hat on a hat and run the ball. Yep. Run the ball left,
Starting point is 00:18:16 run the ball right, stretch left, stretch right. It easy, easy formula until they find a way until Coach zimmer finds a way to clog up that middle they're gonna have to oh joe i made a simple suggestion put derrick henry in the eye either solo or with a fullback he's not a zone read guy He doesn't need to be even with the quarterback. Put him in the eye.
Starting point is 00:18:48 He's an old school eye back. When you see what they did, when they started putting him in the eye and you put that record in front of him, you see what happened? He all of a sudden is 10, is 12, is 15. That's how you have to use him. The reason why you got Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry was not a zone read guy in Tennessee. He won offensive player of the year. He rushed for 2,000 yards, dot the I.
Starting point is 00:19:12 If you want the guy to have success like he had where you got him from, you've got to use him in the way that he was used, what made you fall in love with him to bring him into your fold. Yeah. That's an offensive coordinator. That's an offensive coordinator. That's an offensive coordinator. And I don't think what they don't want to do is they don't want to go away from what they're used to.
Starting point is 00:19:33 They don't want to go away from what makes Lamar Jackson comfortable. What makes Lamar Jackson comfortable is having that guy there running back on his left hip or his right hip. Now, you have to understand, you got to manipulate things a little bit and play to the strengths of your players. Like you just said understand you got to manipulate things a little bit and play to the strengths of your players. Like you just said, if you know the strength of what Derrick Henry does is based on the eye and
Starting point is 00:19:51 having a goddamn fullback in front of him, boom, have some packages where you do just that to make him comfortable, where he can play at his best and then have some, some packages or change or take Derrick Henry out and have some different in there. for your other running back where Lamar could be in the shotgun and have a running back on his left hip or his right hip
Starting point is 00:20:12 for the little RPO play action. Whatever you want to do. You want to give it to him. You want to keep it. Whatever it may be. But the scary thing about it is is when goddamn Derrick Henry is on that right hip or that left
Starting point is 00:20:28 hip, and he put that ball in his belly, they're going to react. And nine times out of ten, they're going to react the way ever 22 is going. I'm playing LeVar, because I don't believe Derrick Henry can hurt me from that formation. I don't believe it. Look what happened at the end of the game.
Starting point is 00:20:44 On the last play, the ceiling, when Lamar kept it. If I'm not mistaken, I don't think D. Henry was in the game. I think 43, who's 43? Hill? I think Justice Hill was in the game. I think so. When he kept it and got the first down?
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah. But if you see what blew the game open 45 rush attempts 274 yards the only thing i'm surprised about i thought lamar jackson would get 100 yards also i knew derrick henry was going to give it because they were going to give him enough carry so he could get 100 and if you can't rush for it when everybody else is rushed for 100 it's like hold on you it's like you watching game tape and you see everybody else torching that corner. Hey, coach, hey, he done gave up three.
Starting point is 00:21:29 He done gave up four wide receivers in a row. Got 100 yards. Hey, don't let him come in here and let him bail his ass out. Let's make it five. Yeah. Give Derrick – listen, John Harbaugh, look. You coached and been in the league longer than I have. But don't let your pride get in your way.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Derrick Henry is a workhorse back. And the more you give him the ball, the better he's going to get. Now, I get it's hard. In fact, it's hard to build a big lead like that and keep it because you're telling your coordinators, OK, let's not do anything. So you get ultra conservative. And what happens is you get a couple of three and outs and the opposing team offense comes on the field and all of a sudden they string together a couple of
Starting point is 00:22:12 10-12 play drives. Now you go another three out, your defense tired. Your defense is tired. The onside kick, Zay Flies, you got to understand that, bro. When that ball squibbing like that, you can't get it from the side. You got to do what you did the next time. You see what he did? He got
Starting point is 00:22:27 his body all the way over there. Listen, it's like playing baseball. It's like playing baseball. If you're a shortstop, get your body in front of the ball. So it can't get trying to pick it up from the side and trying to get cute with it.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Not that, because it's like a top. It's spinning like this. Exactly. And it's not going to take. See, normally, Ocho, everybody used to kick it, and they expect it to take that bounce. Take that bounce, yeah. They don't even do that.
Starting point is 00:22:53 It ain't going to take no bounce. It's going to keep spinning like a top. And so, and, you know, you see how shiny that ball was? That's not a ball that they rough up. Them kicking balls are different than the balls they actually play with. The balls they play with, they let you rough them up. They let you practice with them, and you give them to – those are different type of balls.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But I love the Ravens, the way they – I thought they could rush – I thought they would have rushed for at least 250. They got 274. So I'm not surprised by that. Go back and look at the Cowboys' history over the last five to six years. Look at the games they've lost
Starting point is 00:23:29 and look how the teams have run the football. This is not the first time. The Ravens played them a couple years ago and ran for damn near 300. Cleveland ran for 300. Arizona ran for damn near 300. The Packers, the 49ers, that's their Achilles heel
Starting point is 00:23:45 see the Cowboys are built to play with a lead that's why you got those edge rushers you get Michael screaming off the edge now when you got a hole you got something other to think about than running your ass up the field now you see Lamar Jackson zero sacks
Starting point is 00:24:01 they threw the ball 15 times. Think about this. An NFL MVP, two times, threw the ball 15 times. You know why he threw it 15 times? Because you couldn't make him throw it. You couldn't take the ball out of Derrick Henry's belly. You couldn't take the ball out of Lamar Jackson's belly. So guess what?
Starting point is 00:24:24 I ain't throwing it. Lamar Jackson, hey, don't worry about it. Run it again. Hey, John Harbaugh's on the sideline. Run it again. They running the ball. You know they going to run it. I know they going to run it.
Starting point is 00:24:38 You know they going to run it. Everybody in AT&T know they going to run it. It seems like everybody knew something about the Cowboys' defense because every time D. Henry getting twin, he getting 12, Justin Hill getting six. I'm like, bro, what y'all doing? Listen, it's funny. It's one thing to know it's coming,
Starting point is 00:24:56 but it's a whole other ballgame to be able to stop it. That's the thing. It's a whole other ballgame to be able to stop it. That's why it is so demoralizing. Because I know, I know when somebody tell you, Ocho, okay, after class, like Richard Pryor used to say, hey, 2 o'clock, I'm going to dot your I. Somebody tell you, okay, wait until lunch break. I got something for you.
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Starting point is 00:30:03 they ran it 45 times. 45 of the 60 plays, the Baltimore Ravens ran it. And the Cowboys could not stop it. That's crazy. I wish the game would have been close so they could have still had some creativity instead of just putting the ball off and allowing the Cowboys to hunker down because when they had some creativity, they couldn't do anything. When they
Starting point is 00:30:29 were dragging, when they were bringing Zay Flowers or Bateman across or they were tossing it, Cowboys had no answer. D. Henry started slide-stepping and he started using that forehand. B, get off me. We got a nasty stiff, man. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And he wanted to play for the Cowboys. He's like, bro, I ain't even got to move. I live in Dallas. I'm in my backyard. What was Jerry Jones' excuse for not going after Derrick Henry? At first, Jerry said they didn't need him. You know, they said $8 million was too much. But you gave Zeke $3 million.
Starting point is 00:31:03 So would you rather have Zeke, Didale, Deuce Vaughn, or would you rather have Derrick Henry? What y'all think of Cowboy fans? What would you rather have? You know what? You know what I think about? Would Derrick Henry and his style of play
Starting point is 00:31:19 fit the Cowboys offense? How about that? Let's look at it from that point of view. What do you think? He don't fit it. The I-back formation that he plays well out of. He don't fit Baltimore's offense, but you got to make some concessions to maximize it
Starting point is 00:31:33 because the biggest mistake people make in free agency, Ocho, they love a guy. They love a guy that played in a 43. Now all of a sudden you get him and you try to play him in a 34. You like a guy, you play a guy that he's mainly a zone corner and now you get him to try to play man.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Larry Brown was a prime example. Larry Brown was a quarter's corner. Played well in the Super Bowl, Super Bowl MVP. He go to the Raiders. Raiders are straight man across the board. Man to man, safety in the middle of the field. One year he was gone. So if you, if you fall in love with somebody, if you're in free agency,
Starting point is 00:32:09 and you're like, I like that guy, you better be willing to use him like he was used where you found him. Because if you don't, you're doing him a disservice. And fans are going to say, you're a bust. No, he's not a bust. He's not being used the way he was used before. And so that's on coaching that's on the organization derrick henry is not a zone back he's an i-back he's a bo jackson he's a herschel walker he's a reggie bush type of guy where you toss it to him mojo and you say son
Starting point is 00:32:40 pick your hole works really good with a full fullback you see when they put 42 ricard in there leading the way yeah okay i'm going one way or another hey wherever you go if you kick him out i'm going in if you pin him in i'm going out man i'm going out yeah that's what he is i mean it's not it's not rocket science but you have to look at what derrick henry is what was derrick henry at alabama i back what was Derek Henry at Alabama? An I-back. What was Derek Henry at that little school in Jacksonville? An I-back. That's what he... Ocho, the man is 6'2.5", 245.
Starting point is 00:33:14 You know damn well that man ain't no zone running back. And he a long strider. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So, the Ravens look good running the football, but they got to do a oh yeah oh yeah so if
Starting point is 00:33:26 the Ravens look good running the football but they gotta do it cause see teams look at the Ravens like hey guys no matter how far we get down
Starting point is 00:33:34 they're gonna give us a chance to get back in the game right teams feel that way Ocho they feel that way they could they could easily be they could easily be undefeated.
Starting point is 00:33:47 They could have even lost this game too. Yeah. So they got some things that they need to work on. They got time. Mm-hmm. I mean, I just look. Guys, if you got contained, Ocho, if you got contained, you can't let the back bounce outside.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Trayvon Dix, they did a great job. They's like, hey, we're going to clog it up. We're going to force the running back to bounce. When he bounced, the corner's right there. You got contained. You got to get him on the ground. Yeah. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:34:20 It's the same issues from last year. So you would hope you fix those issues, but the same issues from last year, they're just picking up where they left off. Allowing teams to do exactly what their Achilles heel was last year, this year. So I'm sure, you know, knowing Mike Zimmer, you know, having him when I was in Cincinnati, I'm sure he's going to do everything he can to rectify the situation. I mean, the defense that he runs is the defense that he runs. The personnel that he has is the personnel that he has. And maybe
Starting point is 00:34:48 it just doesn't match well when it comes to teams that come in and are choosing to run the ball straight down here. Yeah, but that's the thing. If you get a lead, and you get them on that turf where they can pin their ears back and they ain't got to play the run. But if you got to sit there and catch, and you know the Ravens,
Starting point is 00:35:06 they just want to keep hammering you and keep hammering you and keep hammering you. And the next thing you know, hey, guess what? They'll slide somebody, hit him in the flat, or Lamar keep it. See, I thought on the play before, when Derrick Henry picked up eight yards, I said, come back and fake it.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Let Lamar keep it. Or if he hits that throw to Mark Andrews, the ball game is over. See, those are the plays, Ocho. That's the difference. If Lamar can ever get those, because you know it's going to come like they ain't getting the ball back. They hot right now. I need to make sure I run about another three to five minutes off this clock
Starting point is 00:35:45 because my defense is what my defense is really because you see Dak had gone up and down the field up and down the field so now it's my job and Lamar as the leader as the captain as your best player I got it got it I got it but I'm not surprised by this. I thought they would do. I thought the Ravens would run the football at will. I thought I thought the game would. I thought they'd win by at least a touchdown. They probably should have won by more than a touchdown,
Starting point is 00:36:15 but they hang on to win at the end of the day. You got to win, but they got to do something by holding these leads. That's a lot of blown leads. A lot of them. They lost this one. They were able to hold on to Ravens win 28-25 go to one and two the Cowboys fall to one and two also the Eagles
Starting point is 00:36:33 didn't score in the first three quarters but still came back without their top two wide receivers and starting offensive linemen to seal the win steal a win over the previously unstoppable New Orleans Saints it's the first time yeah the Eagles scored zero points in the first three quarters of a game and won since 2000. Jalen Hurts still struggling with turnovers. Faced the third and 16 in the final minutes. Hit tight end Dallas Goddard. I don't know what the hell the Saints, the defense, they were playing.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Completion set up. Saquon's Barkley. Go ahead. Touchdown. Philadelphia defensive line dominated the Saints offensive line. I told you the key for me when we talked about it on Friday on first take. I said, I thought Jalen Carter. I think the defensive
Starting point is 00:37:11 line, I think they need to win this game. Not Jalen Hurts. Harassing Derek Carr all night, stifling the offense. They put up 91 points in the first two games. Didn't even come close to that. Dallas Garden had the most receiving yards for a tight end in Eagles history with 170.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Ochoa, what did you like about what you saw from the Eagles? Listen, not giving up, making the plays when it counted most. Obviously, Goddard had a hell of a game, but I want to know what the New York Giants were thinking again. I hate to bring it up again. The Giants or the Saints? No, the Giants and letting Brother Saquon go.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. Hey, Brother Saquon, they had 17 for 147 and two TDs. One of the reasons why the Eagles won the game today. No Devontae Smith, no A.J. Brown. Goddard had a great game, but who takes the pressure off Jalen Hurts after the
Starting point is 00:38:06 turnovers? Number 26? Yeah, for sure. Who puts the team on their back offensively and takes the pressure off Jalen Hurts? Number 26? It was a good game. They have to find a way, for one,
Starting point is 00:38:22 to get the two-star players healthy. We need A.J players healthy. We need A.J. Brown. They need A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith healthy. There's no reason with a team like that, an offensive team like that should have zero
Starting point is 00:38:37 points in three quarters of football. In three quarters of football, there's no way in hell at all. But listen, the Eagles defense, they played some good goddamn ball today. They dominated the line.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Because the Saints team that we saw last week against the Cowboys, the Saints team we saw against the Cowboys last week looked nothing like that today. Nowhere to be found. And that's a testament
Starting point is 00:39:03 to the defense. I don't know what, I don't know a testament to the defense. I don't know what they had to eat. I don't know what the Eagles defense had to eat. But they played some damn good ball today. Did you see that interception
Starting point is 00:39:15 that Hurst threw in the end zone that Honey Badger picked off? Yeah. Ocho. Yeah. That's quarter. He had a few errant throws like that the past, what,
Starting point is 00:39:25 two games in a row? Ocho. That's quarters. He had a few errant throws like that the past, what, two games in a row? Ocho, that's quarters. First of all, Honey Badger knows. They're like, he's supposed to come cross his face. That's Honey Badger. He knows he's not going to let you cross his face. And I'm not backing up anywhere because why? I'm already at the back of the end zone. I'm coming forward.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I'm not backing up. And it's like, well, he folds across his face. That's a 160-pound man. Honey Badger, that's not some rookie DB. That is Honey Badger. He knows the only place that I can get hurt is across my face. That's all. When Jalen Hurst stares him down he takes off and it's the same
Starting point is 00:40:06 thing that happened in the Super Bowl right Seattle ain't let you cross my face Malcolm Butler and you see he made a collision and boom he not lock it off because he
Starting point is 00:40:22 gets the head start all I'm saying in that coverage at that area, because honey badger is not going to retreat because he's already at the back of the end zone. He knows he knows the only place I'm vulnerable is across my face. He can't go behind me because then he'll be out of the end zone. So where am I? See,
Starting point is 00:40:42 when you're a student of the game, you understand where I'm weak and where i'm strong i'm strong behind me i'm weak in front of me so what i'm not gonna let you do is cross my face face yeah oh man did you he uh that was aj well you have to understand you can't call the same route for everybody just cause they can run the route. That's A.J. Brown. A.J. Brown, 220. Okay, it's going to be a collision. It might be an incomplete.
Starting point is 00:41:10 But if you run that with a 160-pound man and Honey Badger, it's going to be a pit. And you know what? That all comes down to play calling, understanding your personnel, understanding your players' strengths, and understanding your player's weaknesses. You don't put a 160-pound player receiver in that situation knowing that the chances of him making that catch and crossing someone that's seen it over and over and over as a veteran safety, you don't even call the play like that. Put them in that situation. That comes down to play calling and understanding your personnel. That's it. That's all.
Starting point is 00:41:48 That's all I'm saying. No, I'm just saying, look, that's quarter coverage. Why are you? Yeah. And like you say, you know, that's not AJ, a big receiver, a TO, a Megatron or Julio Jones, one of the, a Brandon Marshall, somebody that, okay. Is this going to be a collision and it's going to be an incomplete, but it's not going to be an interception.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah. And you know, everybody you just named, you know, Honey Badges is small. All they're going to do is big body and get right in front of them. Right. But see, you get right in front of them. You better look Honey Badge off because if Honey Badge, hey, you're not going to beat him to the point. Not if he
Starting point is 00:42:24 rejoins. You see how he read Dak last week? Yeah. And he beat CD to the point. If he thinks, oh, now you can get in with a double move. But if you double move him, where you going? Metairie? Because you're going to be out in the stadium.
Starting point is 00:42:39 He knows that. I ain't going nowhere. My feet are right here. I'm going to drive forward. He beat him to the punch. And then they're talking about, did you see that hit on Devontae Smith? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They talking about that was a dirty hit.
Starting point is 00:42:57 That wasn't no dirty hit. He's still up. Thank you. He's still up. Listen, as a receiver, if you know they got you wrapped up, stop fighting. Stop fighting. Make a business decision. Let your body go and go down.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Let your body go and go down. If you still up, you still fighting. Understand the pursuit is coming from all different angles. No, they're coming from where he caught the ball. Danger is not that way. Danger is coming from back here them linemen yeah exactly where you came from and what i don't know if they still do it but they used to hold his ass up i'm coming hold him up oh they're trying to put as many hats on you as they possibly
Starting point is 00:43:36 can yeah bro devante i understand you tough but bro a buck 60. You ain't dragging nobody nowhere. All you gonna do is subject yourself to take unnecessary hits. That guy is 300 pounds, and he's coming at about 12 to 15 miles an hour. They got you up. He's still, too. That's even worse.
Starting point is 00:44:02 It's not a dirty hit. He gonna learn. You gotta make a dirty hit. He gonna learn. You gotta make a business decision. You gotta give yourself up. If you know they got you wrapped up, you ain't going nowhere, you gotta give yourself up. Know when the journey's over. You gotta know when the journey's over.
Starting point is 00:44:17 That's good. Man, he is so tough. Okay? Okay. Hey, them D linemen hits, they different they different than a db here trust me way different trust me wait that's through 290 280 300 that's different than 185 200 and they coming to put pain so no i didn't i didn't believe that was a dirty hit. It's very unfortunate. I hope Devontae's okay, but
Starting point is 00:44:47 I didn't see that as dirty. It wasn't nothing dirty about that. There was nothing, nothing dirty about that play, Ocho. He's still fighting. Now, if he gets out of there, then what? Coach gonna say, why'd you let up? So, hopefully Devontae's okay, but I'll give the Eagles credit going on the road after a
Starting point is 00:45:08 heartbreaking loss last week to the Atlanta Falcons they go on the road beat the hottest team that team that was playing the best the Saints had scored 91 points had run rough shot over two teams hold them to 15 hold them to 12 points in their building and they win by the score of 15-12 Sam Darnold dominates the Texans 34-7 through three weeks the Vikings have been one of the league's best teams they won on the road against the Giants they defeated the NFC best 49ers in week 2 and now they beat one of the AFC top squads in week 3
Starting point is 00:45:40 their plus 55 margin of victory through three games is the second best in franchise history only behind the 1975 team. Minnesota went four for five in the red zone. Darnold threw four touchdowns on the day. It's the first time in his career that he's thrown multiple touchdowns in three straight games. Today,
Starting point is 00:45:58 they jumped out on the Texas and didn't let up. C.J. Stroud threw for 215 yards, two interceptions, one touchdown. And they struggled with Brian Flores' defense. And without leading rusher, running the football, Joe Mixon, they were sitting ducks back there. Houston scored a season-low seven points,
Starting point is 00:46:18 and the running backs had 11 carries for only 26 yards. In place of Mixon, Cam Akers' longest rush was nine yards. This was the first time CJ looked pedestrian. This was his worst game of the NFL. Now, obviously, he's due to have one of these games, but Ryan Flores did a great job of confusing it. He did a great job of pressuring it. He did a great job of disguising coverages,
Starting point is 00:46:46 and hopefully he gets another opportunity to be a head coach again because, you know, obviously, you know, some things that happened in Miami with Tua, and I think everybody deserves a second chance because we've seen some coaches that get second, third chances. And so hopefully Brian Flores, with the job that he's doing this year at Minnesota, with a head coaching job, comes available, and they will come available Ocho hopefully he's in line to get one of those jobs but what did you like about what you saw
Starting point is 00:47:09 from Minnesota well Sam Donald Sam Donald I don't I don't listen I don't know what happened when he was in Carolina I don't know what happened when he was in San Francisco but the Sam I don't know what happened when he was in New York but the the Sam, I don't know what happened when he was in New York, but the resurgence and the confidence that he's displaying at the quarterback position and having the number one pick go down and him stepping in and looking like
Starting point is 00:47:36 the savior for the Minnesota Vikings and they haven't missed a beat. They haven't missed a step offensively. Listen, he was 17 for 28, 181, 14 easy days. Pick it up right where they left off. I know Justin Jefferson is happy. I know.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Dog, people don't understand how important the quarterback position is for your success. If you have adequate play at the quarterback position, anything is possible. Anything is possible anything is possible and he's showing that despite the struggles that he's had early in his career and other teams found the right situation and look was look how it's showing up look how he's performing week in and week out even though it's only week three well listen he's gonna he's gonna be he's gonna be due for a game that doesn't look like itself like yeah but so far unbelievable well i think and he's he's playing for another starting job somewhere else too now he's playing for another starting job i think the problem that teams run into is that they want these quarterbacks to play early and they're not ready to play and
Starting point is 00:48:43 you're ruining them yeah and that it's like you draft the quarterback high well he's got to play early and they're not ready to play and you're ruining them yeah and that it's like you draft the quarterback high well he's got to play what do they do they clear the decks they don't have any veteran guys in there they don't have anybody that can challenge them and they just okay here you go and i think sometimes they'll be better served if they were sent six eight ten games maybe the entire season but they want them to play so soon. And if they're not ready and now you wreck the guy's confidence. Yeah. And I think that's what happened with Sam Darnold. I'm not saying he's going to turn around and all of a sudden he's going to
Starting point is 00:49:13 be Kurt Warner. You know, he's going to go be at a situation where he leads a team to the soup bowl. He's an two time MVP or something like that. But I think he's a good quarterback, but I think sometimes they force these guys to play and when they don't have much help around them, and then this is what you get.
Starting point is 00:49:29 And then everybody's like, well, he'll bust, he'll bust. No, you didn't put him in a situation where he could succeed. And so everybody wants the guy to come in, he a high draft pick, no joke, and play right away and be good. Be a savior. Listen call i call it a savior
Starting point is 00:49:46 because you got to understand if if you had the number one pick if you had the number two pick you know it's because you know collectively your team was bad the previous season and you're not just a quarterback away yeah hey listen sometimes but these young these young fellas man there's no development you know the transition from college to to the pros, it can be difficult. It can be crucial, especially if you throw them out there to the Sharks. And we've seen so many different examples of that. Now you have some anomalies like C.J. Strath, the way he played over the year. You know, there's some examples of people.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Hell, Patrick Mahomes even had to sit a year behind goddamn Alex Smith. He did. Carson Palmer, who was my quarterback, had to sit a year behind goddamn John Kidna. But when they did get in there and play, boom. Yeah. Give them an opportunity. Set them up. Set them up for success.
Starting point is 00:50:43 It's okay if the guy doesn't play the opening day. And I know a lot of guys, I want to be the day one starter. But are you going to be ready to be the day one starter? Because it's not just about day one. It's about day 101. Day 1001.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Because they're not just getting you, they don't just want you for one year. They're hoping you're a decade player. Or a decade and a half player. That's what they're not just getting you. They don't just want you for one year. They're hoping you're a decade player or a decade and a half player. That's what they're hoping. But in the NFL, it's all about confidence, especially that position. You have to believe you're the baddest mofo out there. I don't care who out there on the field. I'm the baddest.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And you've got to have that mentality. Right. But they did a number on Houston I haven't seen Houston look like this in a very long time Ocho and I've been following you know I've been following for about last 16-17 games you know last year coming up to this year
Starting point is 00:51:37 I this is the worst I've seen their offense look they confused them. They did a great job of getting after CJ. They picked him a couple of times. It seemed like Brian Flores had him confused a couple of times. There's no harm in that.
Starting point is 00:51:55 You do one of those games. You have 16-17. If you can go 16-17 games without having a dud, you're pretty good. You're going to have a pretty good career if it averages out like that. You won for 16 as far as bad games. But give Minnesota credit. Minnesota might be better than I thought, considering that they lost J.J. McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Aaron Jones has been a godsend because they moved on from Ollie Madison. Remember, they let Dalvin Cook go a couple years ago. But Aaron Jones, he comes in 19 for a buck or two. He's great at catching the ball out of the backfield. But Justin Jefferson, and they don't even have Jordan Addison
Starting point is 00:52:33 yet. Remember he hurt his knee. Yeah. When he come back, that makes them even that much more dangerous. That opened up the playbook even that much more. It's going to get scary. It's going to get scary. It's going to get scary. Minnesota Vikings sit atop
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Starting point is 00:55:27 It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.
Starting point is 00:56:13 To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction, those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring
Starting point is 00:56:58 to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity.
Starting point is 00:57:21 There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and me now on audible. The Panthers, a game, which you attended.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Office with Andy Dalton, Andy Dalton through three touchdowns in the first half, leading to a 21,7 halftime. The Panthers managed to put up more points in the first 30 minutes in Las Vegas than they did over the last two weeks combined, 13. Carolina's offense came to life with Dalton under center
Starting point is 00:57:55 as he connected with eight different receivers. Dalton finished the game 26 and 37, 319 yards, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. It amplifies Ocho. Yeah. That Bryce Young probably needed to sit and learn some things.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Hopefully he learned some things from Andy Dalton while he's in there. Meanwhile, check a look at this side. We're going to talk about this. Meanwhile, after the game, Antonio Pierce had this to say about his squad. Okay. No, they didn't. I think as the game went on, I don't think it was a team. I think there was definitely some individuals that made business decisions.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And we'll make business decisions going forward as well. Wow. Boy, you heard. Boy, I ain't even hear that. I ain't hear that till just now. Yeah. Either they're guys making business decisions, and we gonna make business decisions moving forward. Hey, that ain't nothing to play with now.
Starting point is 00:58:57 That ain't nothing to play with. Anytime a head coach says that, based on your play on the field, in a game that probably, you know, coaches, players, you're expecting to win? Shit. You mean business. And listen, I sent out a tweet two days ago. I sent out a tweet two days ago, and I don't know, I'm going to get to that in a minute.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I said, anytime a team makes a change, especially at the quarterback position, for some reason, coincidentally, they respond better. They play better. And that is exactly what the Panthers did. I owe the Panthers organization. I know the Panthers fans. I owe you an apology.
Starting point is 00:59:43 I owe you an apology because I was very passionate about the mention of Bryce Young. I was upset that it was benched because I had the understanding and having a rookie quarterback coming into a situation where a team didn't do well last year and expecting a rookie quarterback to come in. He's thrown to the wolves, out there to the Sharks, and is expected to be that savior. And maybe my wording was a little incorrect in saying that he didn't have anybody to throw to, but I was just, I'm mouthing off about the passion,
Starting point is 01:00:09 I'm mouthing off passionate about him being benched. Adam Thielen, I owe you an apology. Xavier Leavitt, owe you an apology. Deontay Johnson, boy, your ass showed the fuck out today, boy. I owe you an apology. Eight for a buck, 22 in a tail. Oh yeah, Mr. Canales, boy. I owe you an apology. Mr. Kanellis? Oh, yeah, Mr. Kanellis? Boy, I owe you an apology. Panthers,
Starting point is 01:00:29 Nation, I owe all you motherfuckers an apology. I'm sorry. You know, I can put my foot in my mouth. You know, I can show some grace. Please show me some grace. I was wrong. I was wrong. But what we do have is we still have 14 weeks to go. Now, you guys can string together some games with a veteran quarterback that is used, that has also been to the playoffs, too.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Now, we talk about a winning quarterback. This is Andy Dalton. Red rifle now. We used to get it done in Cincinnati. So you guys have someone good that Bryce Young can sit back and learn from that is used to winning, that has been to the playoff before and know what it takes to get there, someone that is efficient with the ball, as you saw today, he threw the eight different goddamn receivers
Starting point is 01:01:09 and everybody was able to eat. So again, my apologies, you know, for not fixing the words and just being passionate and more concerned with the benching of Bryce Young and not taking into consideration some of the things I was saying about the team in a collective way.
Starting point is 01:01:28 So, you know what? Y'all keep on pounding. Huh? Go Panthers, bitch. I mean, look. All it proves is that Bryce Young deserved to be bitch. That doesn't mean that he's not salvageable.
Starting point is 01:01:43 That doesn't mean that he can't be a good quarterback, but at this time it was better for him to sit back and learn. Maybe he can see some things. Hopefully Andy Dalton can help him and says, okay, tell me what you're thinking in this situation right here. Or like when he come off the field and Andy would get her and would talk to him. Okay. Tell me what you're thinking.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Cause that's what, you know, the guys would run around and something would get her and would talk to her. Okay, tell me what you're thinking. Because that's what, you know, the guys would run around and something would happen. I said, okay, so tell me, okay, it was this coverage. Tell me what you're thinking. What did you see that caused you to do that? And so hopefully, like I said, Ocho, these guys, number one picks, top five, top 10 picks, everybody expects them to come in
Starting point is 01:02:23 and be what they were in college right away. And that doesn't normally happen. They're isolated incidents where that may happen, but they're few and far between. Right. And so, with that being said, Andy Dalton,
Starting point is 01:02:39 that's normally what happens. Guys come in, guys make plays. You look at the way they ran the football, 31 carries, a buck 31, Chuba Hubbard, 21 for 114. Deontay Johnson. Hubbard was cutting up, man. Hubbard was cutting up, man. But also, do you look at today's game? I saw a lot of people.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Obviously, they watched the game. I found a lot of people on Twitter. And obviously, I extended my apologies to the Panthers fans and the players via Twitter as well. And then you have other people that aren't fans of the Panthers saying, oh, man, like, relax. They act like they just won the goddamn Super Bowl. They're going to be right back to the same Panthers again. They were just playing the Raiders. And I don't really see it like that. I see it as, obviously, you're playing with a veteran quarterback
Starting point is 01:03:26 that is used to being able to process a little bit faster, that's used to being able to get the ball out on time, and that's what we saw today. And I think, obviously, my outlook on the Panthers, based off their performance today, especially from the quarterback position, what Andy Dalton was able to do, is a little bit
Starting point is 01:03:48 more positive now that I've had the chance to watch them thoroughly, being at the game and being up and close and watching it field side. Listen, I'm excited for them, man. We're going to see. You keep stringing them motherfuckers together like you did
Starting point is 01:04:04 tonight, they're going to see. You keep stringing them motherfuckers together like you did tonight, they're going to be all right. Panthers win their first game of the season. Go to 1-2, 36-22. Who they got next? Who the Panthers play next? The Raiders were not able to build on that big monumental
Starting point is 01:04:22 win, come from behind win last week in Baltimore and they fall 36-22 to the Panthers fall to 1-2 the Panthers play the Bengals what? Panthers play the Bengals hold on where they playing at?
Starting point is 01:04:40 they playing at home or they playing at Cincinnati? where they play? they play at home in Carolina you know what? matter of fact I'm going to that game Are they playing at home or are they playing in Cincinnati? Where do they play? They play at home in Carolina. You know what? Matter of fact, I'm going to that game. I'm going to that game. I'm going.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I want to, if they are in the chat, if there's anybody that's a Panther fan that's in the chat, can you do me a favor? Send me a tweet after the show. If you have an extra ticket, I would like to come to the game. I know some of y'all might be a little mad and they might boo me if I come to the stadium, but I'm finna sit in there. I'm finna sit in there. I'm gonna sit out there with y'all, man. Yeah, I'm coming to the game.
Starting point is 01:05:15 They playing the Bengals too? Let's go. The Rams completed 14-point comeback against the 49ers without Puka Nakua, Cooper Cup, Stanford sliced and diced the 49ers secondary, evenly spreading his targets between Tutu Atwell, Tyler
Starting point is 01:05:29 Johnson, Demarcus Robinson, and Jordan Whittington. Juwan Jennings of the 49ers had a career day, hauling in a career-high three touchdowns on 11 catches for $1.75. His score, he's the first receiver to score three touchdowns in the game
Starting point is 01:05:46 since Terrell Owens did in week five of 2001 and he was the first uh with a 10 plus catch three receiving TD in the 49ers since Jerry Rice wow hey wow it's so I listen even though they lost, even though they lost, they still look good. Even with some of the players that they have that are missing. You know how you say next man up? Yeah. But sometimes they say, well, next man up really, really wasn't the starter because, wait, I forgot how you said it. What's that? If they were good enough, it was a trade.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Yeah, you told the next man up. If you were that good, you'd be starting. You'd be the man that's up. So it looks like even though some of the players are down, the next man up and just as good from a productive standpoint. Ocho, look, you going
Starting point is 01:06:44 to the Carolina game next week I'm not bullshitting that's why I forgot I'm going stop at the gas station get $20 on point six they got two tickets for you you trying to be funny or you serious they ain't hard to get
Starting point is 01:06:58 but they just you get a three piece wing dinner and some tater logs and two Carolina tickets for $15. Don't do that. Don't be like that. Don't be like that. Listen, you know what happens when you win a game? Based on
Starting point is 01:07:12 the way they perform today? Panthers fans, they're going to be excited. I guarantee that game will be sold out next week. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Three wings, two tater logs, large soda, two Carolina tickets, $25. But so you don't think it.
Starting point is 01:07:33 So, OK, so you don't think today's performance. No. Yes. The organization and the fans promise and hope. No. No, no. All right. I'm going to tell you how much. All right. I'm going to tell you how much.
Starting point is 01:07:46 All right. I'm going to the game. I'm not missing this. That's going to be good. And Carolina ain't nothing but a hip and a stop for Miami. More than a hip and a stop. I don't know where you're hipping to or where you're stopping at. Spirit.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Spirit. Get that. Ain't that a ticket? Ain't that about $45? Coach D. Shine as they beat the Bears. The defense held Chicago to 63 yards rushing, four sacks, three turnovers. The Colts gave up nearly 500 rushing yards to their first two opponents,
Starting point is 01:08:12 yet the Bears attempted 52 passes. I don't know why. Chicago had 247 yards in the first half and was shut out in the second. And shut out at the half after four straight runs and shotgun in a four-yard line and didn't yield a touchdown. This game featured two of the youngest quarterbacks in NFL, Richardson and Williams. Caleb Williams responded late, touchdown throw to Roma Dunzey
Starting point is 01:08:35 and Cole Komet, his first two NFL passing touchdowns. Boy, they got a lot to learn. Yeah, I couldn't miss this. This is the only game I couldn't see. Ocho, they got a lot to learn yeah i couldn't i couldn't miss this this is the only game i couldn't see oh joe they got a lot to learn they still it's hard they richardson is still trying both of them are still trying to make throws that they made in college and i keep they got they got the arm to do it though they don't you can't make them throws oh cho you not finna roll one way and throw back cross the field to pick i don't know what his richardson first interception
Starting point is 01:09:13 in the end zone even if the ball wasn't if it was gonna get picked he got three right dude round the guy and then he rolls and throw tried to throw across the field. The same thing with Caleb Williams. Bro, you're not getting away with those throws in this league. The guys are too good. You're not playing Louisiana Monroe. You're not playing the FCF team. These guys are the best of the best. They make you pay for mistakes.
Starting point is 01:09:42 So stop putting your team in harm's way. I think Anthony Richardson would be good, but he's got to stop making these mistakes and he got to learn some touch. Bro, I mean, sometimes he throwing the ball to the guy from me to this wall and he throwing it like he throwing it in the hurricane. Bro, some touch.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Yeah. And Caleb, you 52 times? Come on, bro. Come on, y'all doing. yeah and Caleb you 52 times come on bro come on what y'all doing I wish I wish I was playing in the offense when they throw the ball
Starting point is 01:10:11 52 times I wish because that's a receiver's dream you know how many listen some teams only ran 65 plays sometimes you only
Starting point is 01:10:20 run 65 plays and 52 of those are in the air yeah but that means you will probably lose if you throw the ball that many times you're probably gonna lose it ain't gonna be very many times now it ain't gonna be very many times that you win a game when you throw the ball that much you're behind you're probably behind and you're probably gonna
Starting point is 01:10:38 lose the game now if you want some stats that those are great but yeah you're not winning what if you throw it 52 times and you win in the game But you're not winning 52 times? What if you throw it 52 times and you win in the game? What if you throw it 52 times and you are fishing? What if you throw it 52 times and the quarterback is 48 for 52? Yeah, but Ocho, what are the like, normally when you throw
Starting point is 01:10:58 that many times, what are you? You're behind. And teams will let you do that so they don't give up anything cheap or deep. Right. Just keep them in front of us. Yes. I mean, some of the guys
Starting point is 01:11:13 and they just, I'm going to show you. I just want to know because Anthony Richardson said that the college was harder than the NFL. I want to know if he still feels that way. He said it last year. No, he said it this year. No, he said it this year. Before he got hurt. He said it this year.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Oh, he said it this year? I don't really think he meant that, though. I don't know about what he said. I don't know if he meant it or not. He would just be, he would probably be in position. If a girl called you ugly,
Starting point is 01:11:39 oh, she ain't mean that. That ain't what she meant. She said it. Nah, if a girl, I mean, nah, but you gotta listen. You know, a girl call you ugly, sometimes she flirting and she meant. She said it. Nah, if a girl, I mean, nah, but you got to listen. You know, a girl call you ugly, sometimes she flirting, and she really don't mean that. But, you know, sometimes she said to keep you humble.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Nah, don't keep me humble. My grandma called me ugly all my life growing up. I'm going to take your word for it. I'm done with you. Oh, ugly self, okay. Hey, I ain't going gonna try to convince nobody. Did you mean that? You remember the other day you said I was ugly.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Did you mean it? Nah, you said I'm good. I'm gonna keep it moving. You can't take it personal, man. I ain't taking it personal. I just, I ain't finna be. What I look like trying to somebody gonna call me ugly and they think I'm gonna be with them.
Starting point is 01:12:25 I mean, come on. Ocho, we grown. You do that in the fourth grade when you were in elementary school. You got a crush on somebody. You hit them with your ugly self. You make me sick.
Starting point is 01:12:40 We grown now. We don't play them type of games. That means she really like you. Nah, nah. Shoot, hey. I mean, shit, Real call me ugly sometimes. Yeah. We don't play them type of games. That means she really like you. Shoot. She real call me ugly sometimes. Was she mad at you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Exactly. When are women the most honest? When they what? When they're angry. Thank you. Maybe I am. Listen. I'm not the... when they what when they angry when they what thank you so probably maybe i am you know i listen i ain't i ain't i'm not done i ain't top 10 in the world i'm not strong six and a half especially with a haircut if i get a haircut oh long as i'm long as i'm above five i'm straight now when i ain't got no haircut and you know i ain't been on the waist i'm be i'm a phone you i mean look
Starting point is 01:13:27 yeah i mean i guess that's what you like i'm looking for like you said i'm trying to be i'm trying to be a strong six seven a seven yeah i mean you say if you you want your girl you wouldn't want your you want you so i mean you say, what would you say, Reels, what, nine, ten? Nine, nah, Reels, Reels. She probably, I give seven and a half. She is. Hey, Reels, you heard me. Nah, she ain't there.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Me say that. Hey, listen, my dog, man, she bought it. She bought a 10. I outkicked my coverage, though. You did? I outkicked my coverage. Listen, the only reason she with me is I won because of my personality. Okay, I can hear that.
Starting point is 01:14:17 I'm just being honest. If you can make a woman laugh, you can laugh. I ain't gonna say it. You know what I'm trying to say. You get up out of it. I get what you're saying. Quit. Quit. Yeah, yeah. But I look.
Starting point is 01:14:34 It just depends. I mean, look, everybody, you know, everybody, there's them lookers that, you know, that's gonna get you like. Yeah, yeah. You got some steppers that's gonna make you do a... Yeah. You got some staples that's going to make you do a double take. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:49 They walk in the room and everybody hears her. And then you got one. You got something. Did you see her? Nah. Listen, I mean, obviously depending on who you are, especially as a male, sometimes you want a seven. Sometimes you want a six and a half. Because you want a six and a half because you take a six and a half and you get a hair,
Starting point is 01:15:08 a feet, and a nails done. Get a face beat. Oh, she good. And then you ain't got to worry about everybody after. You ain't got to worry about the temptation. What you fail to realize, the moment you can get you a two. The moment Ocho saw somebody
Starting point is 01:15:23 going to want her because they want what Ocho got. That's how it works. Right, right. They can see a woman walk by a thousand times. Right, right. But let somebody, boy, that, bro, you saw her walk by this,
Starting point is 01:15:37 she been working in this office for four years. Yes, sir. She been single. Ain't nobody, she ain't mentioned nothing. No flowers have never come. No cars have never never come you've never seen her go out like oh i gotta go i'm going to meet somebody for lunch or for coffee but the moment somebody else show a little interest i've been there
Starting point is 01:15:57 man you know man you know stephanie look good mother they do that all the time ocho hey but you know like i said look i'm what i am i got a nice personality i can carry a conversation i'm what i am what you see is what you get uh you know like i said when i was when i was when I was growing up, Ocho, in college and high school, you know, you got a homeboy. Because women, a lot of times, you ain't going to see five or six tens together because they're going to be bickering. So you're going to find they might be one ten,
Starting point is 01:16:37 eight, seven, and they're going to be about three or four twos and fues. They're going to be a couple of twos and fues in there, Ocho. Now, the one thing about women infused they're gonna be a couple tools infused in there now the one thing about women they not gonna splinter guys if if if if five or six guys go out together and this one and the female say hey hey you know hey what you doing let's go get some hey bro check this out i'll holler at y'all hey such and such i'm going blah blah blah
Starting point is 01:17:02 women don't splinter like that. So you got to have somebody that'll take for them tools and fuels. You got to have somebody take one for the team. Right. That's why my homeboys would come in at the shop, I got you. But you know my girl, she ain't got nobody. He got her.
Starting point is 01:17:20 I'm going to break him off. I'm going to give him about $300. So he can go ahead and do what he need to do keep on occupying well I keep this one occupied but you're not going to find no 5, 6, 7, 10s together because there's too many strong personalities
Starting point is 01:17:35 and if somebody talked to one of them he'd be in my DM he'd be in my DM you know they'd be talking all that's community PP anyway. I ain't want it. So it's going to cause confusion. More times than not, women, they have, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:52 one or two that look really, really attractive. But, you know, they're going to have about three or four, two of them with them now, Ocho. Yeah, always, always, always. I'm going to say, I ain't taking one for the team. Nah, I wasn't either. I ain't going to, the team. Nah, I wasn't either. That didn't mean. Man, come on.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Come on, Shaw. No, ain't no come on, Shaw. No way. Come on, bro. Don't put your boy out there like. Man. But that happens, Ocho. But like you said, I look.
Starting point is 01:18:24 I can talk, carry on a conversation I got a nice personality hey here what it is hey am I 10 no I'm good I'm good I'm good what I am I'm 56 Ocho I move a little slow I got the same haircut I had
Starting point is 01:18:40 since 1972 starting to receive a little bit of talk but what you see is what you get. Well, I mean, listen, I mean, me, when I got a haircut, when I got a haircut and I put on some clothes, boy, I'm about a
Starting point is 01:18:56 nine and a half. I'm just going to be honest with you. I'm about all blue. When I really put that shit on, boy, I be somebody different. I walk different. I'm not cocky. I'm convinced.
Starting point is 01:19:15 It is what it is. But you rarely catch me in those occasions because I always look like a bum. And I always repeat the same outfit three, four times a know at a you know a weekend because i don't really care yeah i mean when you had a job where you dressed up every day 240 days a year shirt and tie shirt and tie 240 days out of 365 bro i you know i ain't really trying to dress up like that now i still you know have to dress up you know i don't have to wear a
Starting point is 01:19:41 tie don't wear a tie that much anymore but i still dress up two days a week occasionally three days a week man when i'm going you know like that's what you wear look at this what you get this is what you get now if you think you're gonna see somebody out there some lv or some dior g-bone that ain't me that ain't me now them young boys hey they can have all that they they got it. But that ain't me. So I'm going to address my age. I ain't coming in with all that other stuff. That ain't me, Ocho. I'm perfectly good at my athleisure.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Yeah, yeah. You know, every time I spring, every blue moon, I was springing a little high designer. Yeah. A little high. Air blue moon, air blue moon, air blue moon. Hold on. Where was I at you know. Yeah. Yeah, I do know something. Air blue moon, air blue moon, air blue moon. And you know, hold on, where was I at? Houston. Yeah. You know, Houston, I have a little designer short set.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Oh, you know, a little something. Okay, okay, okay. Do it together. You know, kind of with Houston. You know what happened in Houston. You know what I'm saying? What happened in Houston. David Houston.
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