Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Coach Prime deserves credit, LSU upset by Georgia, Jeanty vs. Hunter

Episode Date: November 17, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson discuss Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders, Shedeur Sanders, Travis Hunter and the #17 Colorado Buffaloes impressive performance vs. Utah. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Travis Hunter being the Heisman favorite, rip the Coach Prime naysayers, react the Carson Beck and the #12 Georgia Bulldogs rallying to beat the #7 Tennessee Volunteers in an SEC showdown, debate if Boise State RB Ashton Jeanty or Colorado Buffaloes 2-way player Travis Hunter should win the Heisman trophy and much more!03:50 - Show start04:13 - Intro05:56 - UGA wins 31-17 over Tennessee08:24 - CU beats Utah29:43 - Florida v LSU37:47 - Oregon v Wisconsin44:40 - Ashton Jeanty50:17 - Money Williams and sister raising younger siblings after parents’ death53:00 - Jerry Jones believes Witten could be an NFL head coach54:44 - Larry Csonka1:00:55 - Seahawks planned to draft Deebo and Metcalf in 20191:02:12 - Netflix boxing Paul v Tyson(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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college football playoff selection committee bracket after they had fell out after 28-10 lost to Ole Miss. Tennessee, first three possessions in the second half, ended at a punt. Well, it's really simple for the Bulldogs. When they take care of the football,

they're as good as any team in the country. When they don't, they can get their ass whooped by any team in the country. When they don't, they can get their ass whipped by any team in the country. Most definitely. I mean, from the previous games that I've watched Georgia play, it all came down to Beck. It all came down to the quarterback.

And when the quarterback, he was abysmal and he turned the ball over, those are the games that they happened to lose. Tonight, no turnovers. They played well. Now, Tennessee did keep the game close for the majority of the game. From what I saw after I landed,

obviously, I tried to watch as much as I could when I was on a plane traveling from cal from boulder you know to cincinnati so i mean it was it was kind of close and then obviously at some point the better team you know that they ran away with the game yeah yeah if you go back and still look at georgia there are three games there are two games i know and i think back to back right which back through three interceptions and they still won those games one because they're the mortality of the team but when you play teams that's on your level and you turn the ball over you get beat a la alabama

a la omis yeah and so that's and you know they make it to college football playoff clearly all those teams will be on their level as long as he takes care of the football, they have a chance to go very, very far. When he doesn't, he plays down to their level, maybe even underneath their level, you can get beat. But the Bulldogs seem to be right or wrong

last week as they win 31-17 over Tennessee. Tennessee looked good early on in the game, but like you said, Ocho, in a 17-17 ball game, coming out of the half, you want to try to get some momentum, and they couldn't get anything going. Three first and second half punts to start it, and Georgia got the lead and didn't look back.

And so give the Bulldogs credit. Give Kirby Smart credit for having his team ready to play. You know they're going to be tough to beat at night between the hedges, and they come away with a 14-point win over the Tennessee Volunteers by the score of 31-17. Number 17, Colorado, continues the roll as they beat Utah 49-24. Travis Hunt was at it again, plays both sides of the ball. He had an interception, and he had a touchdown run.

His stat line, five catches, 55 yards, one carry, five yards, a touchdown, three tackles, an interception, and a pass breakup. Ocho, what other college player you know can put up a stat line like that? Travis is now the Heisman favorite, according to DraftKings Sportsbook. The Heisman

frontrunner is now just 89 yards shy of 1,000 receiving yards this season. Ocho, when you look at this game, you were there. Yeah. Think about this. Yes, sir. They had three turnovers, and they put up 49. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. So that tells me that's another 10. Let's just say for the sake of argument, that's another 10 to 14 points. So you're looking at a 59. You might be even looking at a 63-point gain minus those turnovers. I thought Shadur started off a little shaky early, but he got it going.

And that's the mark of a great player, Ocho. When you can play, you struggle early, you don't play your best football early, but you turn around and you look at the stats, you're like, hold on. That man was 30 of 41 for 343 touchdowns yeah he was yeah but there was but there was a long lull in between that though yes there's a long lull in between that and i remember being in the team meetings yesterday obviously let me talk about my experience in boulder for

one i want to thank deon sanders i want to thank prime i I want to thank obviously the Colorado staff, the players, the program in general, and for the hospitality. They rolled the red carpet out for you, boy. I rarely go anywhere. So I had a Saturday off. I had the opportunity to go out there, and it was

unbelievable. Obviously, I think my last time in Denver, I remember John Lynch was a safety for the Broncos, and i think champ might have still been there if i'm not mistaken now that's how long that's that's how long it's been since i've been there so i didn't know what to expect and um and it was it was just as beautiful as i remember from back then anyway on to the game the first quarter i remember in the team meeting room one of the first things prime talked about that was the offensive coordinator i want I remember in the team meeting room, one of the first things Prime talked about, it was the offensive coordinator, I want 14 points in the first quarter. I want 14 points in the first quarter.

I don't want any turnovers. They got the 14 points in the first quarter. They did have a turnover on the first possession. Outside of that, there was a lull in the game. I think maybe between the second and third quarter at some point they they got it they got it going a little bit a little bit but there was too much talent and i hate when they allow teams to stay around too long yes yes we talked about that last week there's no reason utah should be able to hang around that long and make the game look as close as it was i love how now all of a sudden the conference is now when Dion was getting beat

last year everybody was talking about I thought I told y'all I told y'all now they win it oh the conference ain't any good oh Utah on their third quarterback what an agent too so is every team that they beat on their third string quarterback right right is every team they played isn't any good because it seemed that seemed to be the narrative that y'all

want to bring y'all do anything y'all can to try to undermine the man's credibility in what he's been able to do. You're talking about a team that was two years ago, they won one game. Last year, they won four games. And all y'all was y'all had your pom-poms, you had your skirt up

in there kicking your heels. I thought you were the Rockettes. Celebrating. Now, you're going radio silent. Now you're talking about they're on their third string quarterback. But had they lost, what would you have said? I told you all the Colorado isn't good. I told you Deion can't coach. You made that excuse. Well, Shadur is not any

good. He's at Jackson State. He wouldn't be doing that at a power five, but that dang it, he's doing it at a power five. O'Brien can't coach. He's doing it at an HBCU. When he's doing it at CU, he's doing it at a power five. Now the conference isn't any good. I've never CU. When he's doing it at CU, he's doing it at a power five. Now the conference isn't any good. Yeah.

I've never seen, I've never seen it so that you'll do anything that people would try to say and do anything they can to try to undermine a man's credibility, his ability to do what he's done with the team. He told y'all, he said, we're coming. Give us some time.

But y'all won't demand. Nick Saban didn't go to the college football playoff. He didn't'all, he said, we coming, give us some time, but y'all want the man. Nick Saban didn't go to the college football playoff. He didn't go to the national championship game his first year. Yeah. Y'all gave him grace. Y'all didn't say when he was started winning, all the teams ain't any good. So why y'all do that with time?

Well, you know why, you know why. And for one, you have to think prime marches to the beat of his own drum. Prime has his own style of coaching. Prime doesn't follow the script on the way coaches should act and behave in, in,

in a certain manner. He doesn't wait and it works the way he does it. Everything he has to think about prime from whether it's the football field, whether it's playing baseball, whether it's playing football, whether it's coaching, everything he does and touches, it turns to go and has success coming right behind it. Sometimes it might

take a little bit. It might take a little time but in Colorado's instance for example yeah, aren't they in their third year? He done turned a collegiate program around. Two years. Years. But you know how I don't think people understand how difficult that is

to do. How you gonna get players to come to Boa La Corada? Because a lot of times, Ochoa, you have to get your type of player. You know the type of player that you want. Right. Okay, this is the type of player I want as a wide receiver. These are the type of running backs that I'm looking for. These are the type of O-linemen.

These are the type of D-linemen. These are the type of skill position players that I'm looking for. Right. And you might have a few on your roster, but when you go 1-12, ain't a whole lot of good-ass players on that roster. I'm just going to tell you like it is. I mean, you go 1-12,

there's not a whole lot of good players on that roster. And so he basically had to flip the roster. And he didn't do it traditionally, he had to go through the portal. You know how difficult that is, though? People saying 1-12, and then you have to deal and think,

we're in the NIL era. We're in the NIL era. So that's even that much more difficult to compete with the teams or the schools or the boosters. Because you ain't got that NIL money. Not like that. I mean, they have some, but they're not competing with the SEC teams. They're not competing with the Big Ten teams.

They don't have that kind of money. When you look at the top 20 programs, they're not even close to that kind of paper. Right, right, right. It's different. It's different. And so when you look at it, I'm happy for him. Yeah, I'm biased. I've known him 30-plus years.

He was in my Hall of Fame class.. Yeah, I'm biased. I've known him 30-plus years. He was in my Hall of Fame class. We worked together, and so I have a great relationship with him. But I don't have a problem giving somebody credit. I think that's what you should do. You don't give them what they deserve. You give them what they earn. I think he's 8-2. 6-1 in the conference, no matter what.

So the conference isn't any good. So why the hell did they pick him to finish 6-1 in the conference. No matter what. So, the conference isn't any good. So, why the hell they picked them to finish second to last in the conference if it ain't no good? They said they would go pick. They'd be lucky to win four games. Yeah. They're going to finish second to last in the conference. In that bad conference, that y'all say bad,

they will pick to finish second to last. Now, they're tied for first in the conference. Now what? Listen, they, whoever they may be, will always continue to discredit Deion because of who he is. It's because of who he is.

That's all. Because if it was anybody else that was able to do something like this, of this magnitude in such a short amount of time, the praises would be just as high. The praises would be just as high the praises would be just as high because oh my goodness you know how you how impossible it is to do something like this at a program in such a short amount of time it's commendable nobody wants to sing him his praises simply because it's him take out the personal vendetta that you might have against dion and give the man his credit that he deserves for what he's been able to do. Sometimes people have a problem with a black man being outspoken. Wait a minute.

Wait, whoa. Let me give a pen and paper because I know you're going somewhere. I know you're going somewhere with this. You know how it is, Ocho. Yeah. We're supposed to be humble. We're supposed to be thankful that we just got an opportunity to do that. How dare you be so boisterous? How dare you be so boisterous?

How dare you be so outspoken? Why you can't be coach-like? Why you gotta have chains? Why you gotta have prime on your sleeve? Why you gotta have a cowboy hat when you do interviews? Yes, sir.

Yeah. If you qualify for the position, right? If you qualify for the position, right? If you qualify for the position to be a leader of men, to be a head coach and you got a little melanin, you have to qualify and be times 10 or greater.

Yes. And your counterparts. Correct. Let me go somewhere real quick. Think about Obama as a president Obama has to not only qualify but he has to speak his way he has to carry his way he can't have none of the shenanigans

that 45 is able to get away with oh that's not Roman you can't wear a brown suit you can't have a cup of coffee in your hand when you go into Air Force One because got to be able to salute the military and our hands need to be empty. Look, we get all of that. We understand that.

But let me ask you this. Let's just say for the sake of argument, and that's what we're doing here. We're having a conversation. Let's play devil's advocate. Let's just say Coach Prime would talk to his players and do his players what Kelly, Brian Kelly, does to his players at LSU. What would be said? It'd be the headline story.

It'd be the headline story. He can't get away with that. You understand? He doesn't have the complexion for the protection. There's certain things that he can and can't do. Now, he would get chastised for that type of coaching. Of course. Now, I'm not sure if Brian Kelly's

history is that of screaming at That's his history. He's done it everywhere he's been. Okay, so that's him. And people would be used to that in that style of coaching. But Prime can't do that. Has Prime not been like he's been everywhere he's been? How you think he got the name Primetime?

Right, right, right. Somebody just magically came out his butt. He's been calling himself Primetime since 87. Right. Definitely 40 years. He's been this way. Did you not see him on draft? Did you not hear the story about he went,

I've got the team on the interviewing. He asked him, where are y'all picking? They said, such and such. Well, I ain't going to be there. He got up and walked out. He dilly-dally-dallyed around at the combine. Had everybody like, man, you're going to run? He comes in, takes his sweats off, runs 4-2.

And out of there. And left. Hey, that's funny. They know exactly who he is but this is what happens when you don't conform this is what happens when you don't conform to the way they think you should be once you're in a position of power yes

a leader of young men they want you to conform and do it in a structured organized environment like a goddamn do it like we do yeah no no no no no that's not prime and it's never been prime. Never has. Never.

It is not going to be him. He's going to, he caught, he has a way that resonates with the kids today. He talks to him on, in a language in which they understand. Yeah. And he gives it to him in the most simplistic term,

because how you do some things is how you do all things. And football is a microcosm of life he's like i'm not just trying to great i'm just not trying to put guys in the nfl i'm trying to make great husbands i'm trying to great make uh make great community men i'm trying to make great leaders so at the end of the day yes i want all my players to graduate because i understand all of them are not going to the NFL. But whatever they choose in their life, I want to make sure they're successful. And I want to make sure I've given them the tools in which they can use to become successful.

But somehow people, you know, if I don't like you, because here's the fruit of the poison is tree. Yeah. If I don't like if I don't if I don't like the tree, any fruit that it bears, I don't like you, because here's the thing, it's fruit of the poisonous tree. Yeah. If I don't like the tree, any fruit that it bears, I don't like it either. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. I heard something I ain't never heard before. Say that again. It's fruit of the poison. It's a criminal justice term. Okay, the fruit of the poison is the root of the tree?

No, I said it's the fruit of the poisonous tree. So if a tree is bad, any fruit that it bears. So if I don't like Coach Prime, anything he touches, I got a problem with. I got a problem with CU. I got a problem with Jackson State. I got a problem with Trinity Academy. I got a problem with Shadua.

I got a problem with Trav. I have a question. Now, what I don't want to happen is I don't want those that are in positions of power who are able to make certain decisions. Let's say, for instance, Hall of I mean, not Hall of Fame voters, voters for the Heisman. I don't want voters that are voting for the Heisman to allow their hatred or their dislike for prime and his coaching style and the way he carries himself and the way he conducts himself and the way he coaches to affect that of the players that are deserving of that goddamn Heisman, especially number 12. Let's not do that.

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the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and me now on Audible. I personally think, Ocho, they realize that they're looking at the best player that they've seen in college football in an extremely long time. The amount of snaps that he plays, the impact that he has on both sides of the football, not only offensively, but defensively. He can flip the game just like that. The catch that he made,

the touchdown run that he had, the pick that he had. There have been, there only been a few, there only been a few guys like that. Yes, sir. That they was like, like,

when I played, there were a few guys that I stood up and watched. Barrett Sanders, when Barrett Sanders was on the field, you didn't few guys that I stood up and watched. Barry Sanders, when Barry Sanders was on the field, you didn't sit down, you stood up and watched because you want to see what he's going to do. But Jerry Rice,

there are a few guys that when they came and you, you had to see, cause you needed to see it. And the jumbotron wouldn't do it justice. You needed to see it for yourself with your own two eyes, watching that man do what he does. Yeah. Go ahead. Where were you when Peter work was that Florida state? needed to see it for yourself with your own two eyes watching that man do what he does yeah go ahead where were you when peter work was that florida state i was in the league where were you

when randy moss was at marshall i was in the league where were you when tavon alston was at west virginia yeah i was uh we played we played hold on we played i played randy in 2001 and i played when i went back to devere um but you know you you realize that you know you realize that it was special he could do things that very few people if not any could ever do his god-given ability he's a he can run fast you know i heard coach saban say something today um it was a lot of the great coaches. I think it was Coach Belichick. It was Coach Saban. It was Coach K. And it was somebody else. I forget who it was.

And Coach Saban said, talent isn't talent unless you can use it. Wait. Say it again. Give it to me one more time. Talent isn't talent if you can't use it because how many times we've seen guys have talent when they do it on the corner

yeah they can play basketball they can run that football catch the football throw the football they can play basketball yeah God gave you that ability

and for you to squander it right is to to not take advantage of the gift is demeaning yeah to have that ability right and to abuse it. But, Coach, congratulations. In his post-game news conference, Tom had this message for the Heisman voters. He said, don't allow their hatred for me to interfere with our kids' success. They gotta stop that.

Y'all gotta stop some of y'all like that. Y'all gotta stop that. Man, give these kids what they deserve. Man, I had my turn. I played 14 years, yeah? They had 14 years to hate that. Man, give these kids what they deserve. Man, I had my turn. I played 14 years. Yeah, they had 14 years to hate me. Now let it go. Let it go.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Let it go. But they won't. You know how they are. But this is the thing. Brother 12 is going to extend himself so far ahead in the Heisman race they're not going to have a choice

but to bless him they're not going to have a choice they ain't going to have no choice we've seen stuff like this but not to this extent he's doing something special that's never been done before you can't take that away from him

you can't take that away from him. No. You can't take that away from him. That young bull got the anointing, man. He got that oil on him. I know it's not Sunday, but I'm not going to preach tonight, but I'm going to save it for tomorrow's show. He's special.

There's no question about it. He's special. You just want to try to get the ball. And to hear Tab talk like, hey, you try to get the ball in his hands without disrupting your offense. Yes, sir. Because you can. You know, Ocho, you know, sometimes you can feed the ball and you get all the other guys.

Now Aiden's just standing around watching. And then when it's their time, he's like, well, hell, I spent the last – I spent the last quarter of a half watching y'all get the ball to trail. So I think Pat does a great job of spreading the ball around. I think Shadur does a great job. I think Pat does a great job of calling plays. Shadur does a great job of spreading the ball around. You see Shepard has an unbelievable – has two unbelievable catches.

You see Webster. And then Trav. Trav had a quiet day receiving, but he made a big fourth-down catch. He got a huge pass interference call. So those are the things that, you know, that goes unnoticed because he didn't score points, Ocho. But we understand it was fourth and five, and he caught a big first down that put him at the six-yard line. Next play, he threw the ball to Shepard. We see the pass interference that he got called.

Hold on. What about the 50-50 ball he caught in between two players? Yeah, that was on fourth down. That was fourth down? Yes. Yes. They went for it on fourth down. Man, he nice, too.

Oh, yeah, for sure. And so that's what I love. I love that about Pat doing a great job of calling plays and she's doing a great job of spinning the football guys played well to get Miller you think about it Miller had 6 for a buck 08 in the touchdown Webster 10 for 77

but hey and the big punt return remember Ocho he had a punt return he almost got loose on the kickoff return but the punt return he said okay y'all keep on playing with me. Sheppard had five for 71, two touches. Trav had five for 55. But this is what we know.

If they can protect Shador just a little, he can flat out spin it. Man, listen. He can flat out spin it. If you give him any time, he going to kill you. You can run man. You can run zone. He's able to read everything, regardless of defensively. Give him

three seconds. Matter of fact, give him 2.5. Depending on who you're playing. Because as the competition gets a little better, as the competition gets a little better, especially if you talk about playing in the Big 12 Championship, you're gonna need that goddamn offensive line as stout as possible.

Florida defeats LSU 27-16. Brian Kelly goes in on Chris Hinton Jr. Hold on, that Chris Hinton? Like, his dad was an offensive lineman. He was a part of the trade for Elway. If that's Chris Hinton, I think that might be Chris Hinton's son. But he was a part of the trade for elway if that if that's chris and i think that that might be chris hinton's son but he's a part of the trade in 84 in 83 you said he was hilton i thought he was hitting chris hilton jr uh on the sideline after he missed time to jump on the deep ball

bf incoachable who the f do you think you are? LSU, third straight loss. LSU's lost to Florida for the first time since 2018. This came despite running 92 plays and having the ball for more than 41 minutes. Kelly's win streak of 10 win seasons will end at seven. Kelly won double-digit games in each of his last four years at Notre Dame and extended it with consecutive 10-win seasons in Baton Rouge.

But losing three in a row to Texas A&M, to Alabama, and Florida makes it impossible to get them past nine. Ah. Man.

Hold on. How you gonna tell the man to be? So the man mistyped his jump. Right. And so you think that's coaching? You know what the funny thing about it? Is the coaching part that he's talking about is not coming from just missing that jump.

This is an accumulation of things that he probably has done wrong and they keep talking to him and he keeps making mistakes. And because he's not listening to the coaching, they think the coaching and the mistakes that he's made previous to that play is why he said what he said.

It got to be. It got to be. I'm mad. They need to, you know what? They need on these airlines when I'm flying, they need to have TVs on these airlines. They got TVs on the airlines.

I was on Southwest. Southwest TV. There's a reason why you played 32.14 for a ticket well i was just trying to get to cincinnati on on in in the most fiscal way possible okay that's a discount southwest is considered a discount carrier you know I don't like the way you just said that I'm not saying it in any kind of way I'm just telling you what it is called listen it's not a discount carrier

because it's Southwest because the plane regardless of the name that's on it all you're doing is paying for the name because American Airlines and Delta and United it's the same name that's on it, all you're doing is paying for the name, huh? Because American Airlines and Delta and United, it's the same planes as Southwest use. It's the same plane.

But they're not considered discount. Let me ask you a question. Talk to me. Ocho, all I'm saying is what they're referred to as. Discount carriers. You're getting mad at me. It ain't my fault. I'm not getting mad. I just don't like the way you, let's say like a pair of jeans, right? A pair of jeans. ass. It's concarious. You get mad at me. It ain't my fault. I'm not getting mad. I just don't like

the way you, let's say like a pair of jeans, right? A pair of Levi's jeans. You get a pair of Levi's jeans for $32, right? You go to Louis Vuitton, Louis Vuitton got that same material. They take the Levi's off, they put the LV on there, and they charge you $1,900.

It's the same guy. When you go to those doors, the TJ Maxx, the Rosses, what are they considered? Are they considered high-end or are they considered discount? They low-end. They're considered low-end. So why are you getting upset

with me? Because that's what they can refer to Southwest and some of these... I didn't say there's anything wrong with it. I just don't like the way they construct the wordplay to make it seem like these. I didn't say it's anything wrong with it, Ocho. I just don't like the way they construct the wordplay to make it seem like it's a bad thing when it's really all the same thing. All you're simply paying for what people don't seem to realize

or understand, you're paying for the name when the product is really the same. Ocho, that's with anything, Ocho. You're right, you're right, you're right. I mean, you go buy meat at one place, you can buy an eight-ounce filet at one place and go to another place that's high-end and they're going

to charge you double the price. But you know that. Because where are you going to eat it? Yes. The fact that we talk about it, I don't think people know or understand that what we're talking about. But they think they're getting something better because the price is higher when all in actuality, all you're doing is paying for the name.

Yeah. And you go to Costco. Yes. They'll stay. They should sell shrimp and crab claws. You go to one of these high end food grocery stores. Yes. And it's going to cost you more. Yes. It just it just is what it is. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you flying Southwest, but I'm just saying that's what, because they have to,

in order for them to consider themselves that, they got to cut costs somewhere, Ocho. Right, you're right. They can't give you a first class ticket for $200 while the same ticket on Delta is $2,000.

They got to get their money from somewhere. first class ticket for $200 while the same ticket on Delta is $2,000? I mean, they gotta get their money from somewhere. Somebody say, Southwest got TVs, Ocho. Shit, not the one I was on. Like I said, I don't know. I don't know. I've never flown Southwest. Back on topic. Florida has been abysmal this year,

right? If I'm not mistaken. Florida. Oh, yeah, yeah If I'm not mistaken. Florida. Oh, yeah, yeah. I had a chance to fly. I said, nah, I'd rather go through Salt Lake, go to hell, and then I'll be ready to come home. But I'm not doing that. But you know,

you don't ask. You don't care. That's okay. Hey, sit like this here. If you were late coming to work because you was all cramped up because boo. Oh, man. Listen, I was...

It was Jay Pharoah. My old faithful, they have no spare airlines that would give me in time from Boulder so I don't think you're going to be able to find them anytime soon who in bankruptcy spirit

you know the game you file bankruptcy so you can get yourself out of debt so they ain't have to pay how you getting in debt how you getting in debt the airline business is. They ain't just, so they ain't had to pay. How you getting the debt? We going to be all right. How you getting the debt? Yeah. I mean,

with that, no, the airline business is tricky, huh? It ain't tricky. The airline business, just business in general is very tricky.

I mean, I hear other airlines say they having a record setting years. Like who? Delta. You do know, you do understand Spirit

is still the safest airline to fly, right? No, it's not. Hey, despite their financial issues. They're not. Just because you said don't make it true because I used to read the report. Read the report.

Pull it up. Pull it up. Pull it up. Okay. I'm going to let you have that one. But I think there's a situation where another player from LSU was yelling at Brian Kelly on the sideline. They cut away.

But see, here's the thing. Oh, sure. Here's the thing. Now, when he was reaming out the coach, when the coach was reaming out the player, they kept the camera on him. Yeah. But as soon as the player started giving it back to him, they cut away. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know they're going to do that.

For one... No, no, no, no, no, no. My parents and loved one had to see you ask me what the F am I doing. Right. Asking me who the F I think I am. Right. I would rather the cameras cut away from the player as opposed to the coach

because I'd rather the cameras save the player because they're going to use that against him when it's time to go in the draft. So when are they going to use anything against Brian Kelly? They didn't use it when he was at Cincinnati. They didn't use it against him against Notre Dame. But you see what they're doing?

You see what they're using against? He has a complexion for the protection. He can do that. You see what they're using against? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Ace Cole here. Let me turn this AC off, man.

God, Lee. Number one, Oregon Ducks survive in Randall in Madison, Wisconsin at Camp Randall. They beat the Badgers 16-13. Jordan James rushed for 115 yards and a tying touchdown on 22 carries to help the Ducks win their first 11-game season and for its first 11 games and for the second time in school history. Wow. The Ducks also won their first 11 games in 2010, went on to reach the BCS Championship game before losing to Cam Newton-led Auburn Tigers.

Oregon won by outscoring Wisconsin 10-0 in the fourth quarter. The Ducks also erased a fourth-quarter deficit in victories over Boise State and Ohio State this season. The Ducks, quack, quack. Hey, they... I don't understand. The top teams in college football... What don't understand the top teams in college football. We don't,

you understand weekend and week out. They up and down. There is, there's no dominant fixtures, the Georgia's, the Alabama's, they dominate the entirety of the season, obviously until they get to, until they get to the playoffs,

everybody's up and down depending on who they're playing. There's no reason Oregon should be struggling against Wisconsin. There's no reason. Teams that are playing are supposed to be challenging for a national championship. It just shouldn't happen. Everything just seems so inconsistent. And I swear for God, I think it's because, I don't want to use NIL as a reason why, but it's even the playing field with all teams across the board. No, quarterback play.

What teams are successful in the NFL? Look at the quarterbacks. You think it was that bad? The quarterback play for Oregon was that bad today? No, they're on the road. Wisconsin is not an easy place to win, but you know, you're dealing with 18, 19-year-old kids, Ocho. for Oregon was that bad today? They're on the road. Wisconsin is not an easy place to win, but you know, you're dealing with 18, 19-year-old kids, Ocho. These are not

professionals. They don't understand that environment. We understand what it's like to go and play in Pittsburgh. We know what it's like to go play in Kansas City. We know what it's like to go play in Buffalo. A lot of these kids haven't been in that hostile of an environment. Just playing on the road is various where you're playing.

Pittsburgh is different. You think that affect the kids? Oh, hell yeah. The atmosphere? Yes. Yes. That's new. It impacts professionals.

How many times we see they get propilities, get a procedure? Oh, yeah, because you can't hear okay, I thought you meant the hostile environment I mean, I hate maybe there's something wrong with me I prefer playing at away games and being

at hostile environments as opposed to being at home I want to be able to hear the snap count I want to be able to hear the snap count. Huh? I want to be able to hear the snap count. I like playing at home. I'm looking at the ball anyway because I can't hear... I'm looking at the ball.

I just need the ball to move. So whether I can hear the snap count or not, whether we're going silent, whether we're playing home or away, I'm not listening to the cadence anyway. But see, I can't look at that because I got a guy on my head. Oh, yeah.

You always got somebody on your head. Yeah, I can see. I can't be looking. But see, you're always looking somebody in your head. Yeah, I can see. I can't be looking. But see, you always looking in there like that. Yeah. As a tight end, you got a little grace because he has to give you a full yard, right? Yes. Okay. Okay. No, he ain't no full yard.

His helmet just can't be all the line of scrimmage. And I'm normally crowding the ball because I want to be as close to getting to where I need to be as possible. I ain't trying to be back. Some people are like, bro, why you a yard and a half off the ball? Damn that.

Getting a little freedom. Yeah. Hell yeah. No, yeah, exactly. But the Dubs survived, and it looks like this is probably going to be them and Ohio State again in the championship game, huh? Probably. And it's the Indy?

Because that's where it was last year, I think. That's where it normally is. The Big Ten is normally in Indy. Yeah. Yep, Lucas Oil, yeah. So it's going to be a very interesting game, but that's the mark of a good team. You find ways to win.

You outscore the opponent in their building by 10 points, and you squeak out a victory 16-13, give the Ducks credit, do they have another game? I think they played 12 and then they got the championship game I think they still have three games left, they play

they play Washington. They got Washington next week. And then they got the Big Ten Championship. In two weeks, they got to buy next week. Okay. In two weeks, they got Washington. And then they got the Big Ten Championship. Go ahead, Ocho.

They got to play Oregon State, though, right? Or they already had Civil War. They already beat y'all. You didn't have to say it like that. They think about taking y'all off the schedule so y'all ain't no competition. They beat y'all off the schedule so y'all ain't no competition. They beat y'all 49-14, just like they did when you was there.

You sure? Oh, actually, when I was there, the four months I was at Oregon State, we did win the Civil War. We won that game. Just FYI, just throwing that out there. I think they might have canceled it. They feel bad for y'all.

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So what's he at now? A little, a tick under, um, 2000. He's an 1893. Oh, Joe, how many games left? There's three games left. Ain't it?

He got, he got two games in the regular season. He, he, he don't get that 2000. Oh yeah. He don't get a 2000. No. The question is, is He going to get that 2,000. Oh, yeah. He going to get that 2,000. No, the question is, is he going to get Barry's record? He's about 736

yards behind Barry. So, will they count the playoff? No. Yeah, they do. That's a lot. That's almost a full season worth of work in a three-game span. The question is, is he going to make the college football playoffs?

Because they got two games. Do they have a conference? Do they have a conference championship? Yeah. People talking about the Cowboys going to draft JT. No, they won't. That's too obvious of a pick.

A running back going that high? Yeah. They have a proper championship. So they got two plus the championship. And I'm assuming they're going to be in it. Yeah. Yeah. So who do they have left?

Oh, man. He's about to go for 300 against Oregon State. Where they play us last? It don't matter. In Corvallis, they can play y'all on the moon, can play y'all in the parking lot. He going for 250. I don't think so. He might go for 120.

But I don't know about two nothing, not on us. Yeah, on y'all. But see, the difference is, how many games has he played now, Ash? 10 or 11. See, Barry rushed for 2,611 games, but Ocho. So he needs 735 yards to get there.

Is 700 yards rushing possible in a game, in a college game, Ocho? No. No. No. And if it is, the conference is you know what. I'm not going to say that. Yeah, I don't think. But the kid's playing. He's having an unbelievable season.

He's going to win the Doe Walker, which is the best collegiate running back in college. And rightfully so. Do I believe he's going to get invited to the Heisman? Yes, I do. I believe he's getting brought into the ceremony. But it's my estimation that Travis Hunter is the best collegiate football player. Absolutely.

That's no knock on anybody else. No. I mean, listen, no disrespect, but a blind man can see. A blind man can see what Travis doing is special and deserves to win the Heisman. It's deserving. There's no hate. There's nothing you can say. You can't

talk about, oh, he's padding stats. I saw all kinds of stuff on Twitter today from certain people, certain analysts, talking about, oh, the numbers he's putting up. He's putting them up in garbage time when the game doesn't matter. Like, come on. Trav? Yeah, man. Like, come on, man.

You're just trying to find any type of angle, just any way to be negative. If you watch the game of football, whether it be college, high school, NFL, what Travis Hunter is doing is special. Stop with the shenanigans and trying to find something negative to say. God.

Yeah, I agree. Also, Deshaun Mitchell had a hell of a game against Benedict last week. He had 12 catches for 227 yards and two touchdowns. Why is that important? The 227 yards in a single game set the record by a Savannah State receiver, breaking the record held by Shannon Sharp, set a 1989 of seven catches, 221 yards, and two touchdowns. You got to go suit up.

You got any eligibility left? You got to go get it back. No. I'm glad, Ocho, that hopefully I inspired him. I mean, look, I mean, for the most part, I'm probably the most famous football player to come out of savannah state and i'm glad i could inspire him because i didn't really have anybody to look to because i didn't they were there was really no numbers

oh joe that i could like man i want to get that right right i mean there wasn't nothing like that and so for him to go get that i mean like i said, I'm surprised that he hadn't got it yet. But after 35 years, dude, salute, salute, salute the young boy. John Mitchell, congratulations. And he's first team all-conference as a receiver. I think he had like 49 catches, 913 yards and nine touchdowns. So anytime a Savannah State Tiger does something, at the wide receiver position, at any position,

here's Savannah State Tiger, bro. I'm proud of you. I salute your success. Congratulations on everything that you've accomplished. The breaking of my record, being first team all-conference, Savannah State, baby. That's what we do. There's a very cool story coming out of Tennessee. Money Williams

lit up the number 11 Tennessee on Wednesday night, scoring 30 of Montana's 57 points. Wow. 57 points on 8 of 15 and 473. He was incredible. Off the court, Williams had a pretty rough year. He lost both of his parents since November, and now he and his older sister are having to take care of his three younger siblings.

Vols beat writer Mike Williams, Mike Wilson posted Williams GoFundMe after the game and the donations have been pouring in from Tennessee fans looking to help. Tennessee fans have been donating thousands of dollars and $128,651 have been raised with a goal of $150,000. That's dope. Wow. That's dope. Wow. That's dope. That's very dope. That's really dope. I think that, I'm not sure if that story in itself

has been made public or as far as globally, you know, statewide, but that can extend way over the $150,000 mark. Oh yeah, for sure. I'm sure it will. Way over the $150,000 mark. Very, very, for sure. I'm sure it will. Way over the $150,000 mark. Very, very fast. If the right outlets

push that story. Yeah. Damn, that's commitment. It is. It is. I'm going to get his information. I'm going to donate also because we need to get that

restaurant that the people walked out on. So make sure we have the team get that information so we can get, get them taken care of. But that's an unbelievable story. Uh, my,

uh, money, bro. I am sorry. So sorry to hear about your, about your mom and your dad. Um, but you and your sister stepping up and doing what your mom and dad would be

so very proud of you doing, um, taking on the responsibility of your younger siblings. And I know that's a tall task. I mean, because you really haven't had an opportunity to grieve because you have to be a parent now. And, you know, while you might want to grieve, you realize that you got three younger brothers and sisters

that's counting on you to be the fill-in parent now. So, bro continual success keep your head up unbelievable um puts everything in perspective lets you understand what's really what's important and what's really really really really important and family is the most sacred thing and uh i'm glad uh the tennessee uh fans did are doing what they're doing but uh let's go ahead and uh get that thing get it up uh get that thing on up to a couple of hundred thousand maybe even half a million um so buddy we got you bro jared jones believes jason whitton could be an nfl head coach he has something you can't draw it reminds me of our other tight end

head coach in detroit right now oh lord have mercy oh what you want to bet what you want to bet what you want to bet? What you want to bet? What you want to bet? You hear him talking? Hey, at what point does it end, huh? It don't. At what point does it end? Like, how do you take? Give the fans what, you know what?

I'm going to let you talk about it, man. You told me not to say much when it comes to Jerry. So I'm going to let you take the floor. Reminds me a lot of our other tight end. He's a head coach up in Detroit right now. Is that why you cut him? But anyway, should there be any

comparison to Dan Campbell? Do not compare Dan Campbell and motherfucking Jason Witten. Don't do that. Jason Witten was a great tight end for the Dallas Cowboys for many years. Put up some great numbers. But from a coaching standpoint and a coaching perspective, Dan Campbell is a different type of coach. There are very few coaches in the NFL like Dan Campbell.

I can name maybe like that, like player-friendly coaches that you just want to run through a wall for. Dan Campbell. Dick LeBeau. If you've ever played for Dick LeBeau or if you've met Dick LeBeau, you're Mike Tomlins. You're Harbaugh's. You're Mike Shanahan. No, not Mike. Did I say that right? Kyle. Kyle Shanahan.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The young one. Player-friendly. Understandable. Play the yeah. The young one. Player friendly. Understandable. Play the game. Understand the game. There's a certain energy, certain aura that they bring to the culture. You know, just don't do the comparison. Come on. Jason Witten, Dan Campbell.

And this is no knock on Jason Witten. The football player. But from a coaching perspective, he doesn't even have that type of mentality. He doesn't even carry himself the same way as Dan Campbell to be compared to him. Like, what are we doing? Is the Cowboys on the bye this week? They've been on the bye all season.

Or they play the Texans. They've been on the bye all season. What you talking about? For sure. For true. People talk about this year, they tank. No, just keep doing what you're doing. You get the first pick. You don't need to do anything different. What you mean to tell me y'all can play worse than what y'all playing? I mean, in order

for you to be as bad as the Cowboys is, you got to practice that, Ocho. Yeah. I mean, you got to go out there and practice to try to lose. Say, look here, check this out. When that man hit that hole like that, I need y'all to step to the side. When I throw you the ball, you hit it up in there and let somebody pick it. Right. Man.

Larry Zonka is once again getting calls about another team that's trying to join the 72 Dolphins as the NFL's only undefeated teams throughout the season. That's regular season and postseason. Zonka, a Hall of Fame running back who powered Miami to back-to-back world titles

in addition to helping the 72 Dolphins go 17-0. See similarities between the team, his team, and the 2024 Chiefs. It's fun to talk about a team that kind of reminds me of the Dolphins. The attention to detail. They're willing to take care of business. Not worried about their own statistic, but about winning. It's reminiscent.

And I kind of get a kick out of the quarterback and that coach. It brings back memories. Yeah. I don't know if Andy... Andy don't remind me of Coach Shuler. No. His personality is a lot different than Coach Shuler's.

And I don't think the Chiefs are... Yeah, I don't even think... Honestly, the Bills are 3-1 against the Chiefs in the regular season. Yes. That's a different thing. I have the Bills winning the game tomorrow. I have the Bills winning the game tomorrow

just for the simple fact that Josh Allen and what they've been able to do offensively, him not turning the ball over, them being able to move the ball up and down the field, whether it be the pass, whether it be the run with Dalvin Cook, some of the creative things that they're doing and not putting Josh Allen in harm's way, where he's normally turning the ball over a lot.

This season, he's protected the ball very well. And the Chiefs have started so slow. They've started so slow. And I know when it counts, most Patrick Mahomes has come in and clutch on those drives where you just got to have it. He always delivers like FedEx and Amazon,

but I have the bills winning tomorrow. And that's no slight to the Chiefs, but if you are going to lose, this is a game you want to lose and get that win, get that taste out your mouth now, and then carry yourself on into the back half of the season and pick up where you left off.

I think the Chiefs are two and a half point underdogs. See? What did the DraftKings say in the line-in? Vegas all in my business. The Bills are underdogs? Wow. What?

Yeah, that's what I thought. Wait, the Bills are underdogs? The Chiefs are. I was finna say. Come on now. Yeah. The Chiefs are underdogs. Two points. Okay.

Hey, Ocho, somebody did a chat talking about, oh, my grandma's single. What about your grandma's granddaughter? Is she single? That's what I'm looking for. That's what I'm looking for. I don't know who told you. They done told you wrong. Hey, but I think, you know, you might, looking for I don't know who told you they done told you wrong I think you know you might

listen I don't mean I know we talking football right now but you need someone around your age though somebody that got something going on somebody that's a little seasoned they got people that's younger than me got stuff going on I mean stuff that you can relate to

I can relate to anything. That's why we have a podcast that talk culture. We talk sports. We talk about everything. Because, you know, the younger you go, they like to be outside. They like to be outside. I'll be outside, too. You just don't see me.

See? I'll be outside, too. Yeah. I'll be outside too yeah i'll be outside with him okay okay okay okay oh man they look at ojo they say you only as young as the woman you feel i feel 30 ish okay okay i like that hey you you could date you can you date 30 can you listen can you date 30 and deal with the games and the indecisiveness the overthinking the analyzing the not the not knowing what you want to do and like i mean look oh look it's just like all 50 plus year old men are not is not stable. It doesn't know what they want to do.

Not all 30 years. There's some obviously. Yeah. There's some 30 year old that's that's more grounded than others. Right. No, no, I'm looking for. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah see you came you stuck inside who you you stuck what you mean you stuck inside you got to work on you working on something right now let me handle this let me handle this hold on i. I'm working on these 37-11 jobs I got. Is that

what you're talking about? That's what I'm saying, but you keep focused on that. Let me focus on this other stuff. Okay. I got you. I'm with you. The Seattle Seahawks have planned to draft both Debo and DK Metcalf in the second round of the 2019 draft,

but the Raiders backed out at the last second and screwed Seattle over. Ocho, would this have been the scariest receiving duo ever? You know what? They would have been a scary receiving duo, but who was going to get them the goddamn ball? That's the most important part. Listen, a team is only as good as— Russ played with DK?

He didn't have Russ throwing him the ball. You said they wouldn't. Oh, so DK was supposed to go to Seattle? Yeah, they were going to trade. They were going to trade, but the Raiders backed up out the deal. Okay, now that would have been nice. You had me thinking they were supposed

to be at the Raiders together. No, no, no. They were supposed to be at Seattle together. That would have been nice. Wait, no. Russ, no, no. They were supposed to be in Seattle together. That would have been nice. That would have been... Hey, hold on. Wait, no. B-Smoke... With Russ.

With DK, huh? Uh-uh. Okay. Yeah, that would have been nice. That would have been nice. Yeah, I don't know about the best receiving group ever. Ever? Hell no.

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Ocho, in Netflix's first live stream professional boxing event hey man 60 million households tuned in to watch Jake Paul face Mike Tyson

the 27 year old Paul defeated Mike uh via unanimous decision Ocho what did you think about the fight

what did I tell you was gonna happen man I told you it was gonna come down to stamina and conditioning. Jake Paul won round two to eight. Round one, for people in the chat, round one, if you're paying attention,

when Mike came out there and applied pressure and opened up and volume punched a little bit, just a little bit, And he scared the shit out of Jake. If you watch go back and watch round one again and Mike was actually Mike for a little bit. Even a 58 year old Mike made Jake Paul uncomfortable. Uncomfortable.

He's not used to that. You can't train for that kind of that kind of fighter. I don't care who you spar with and how many rounds or hours of sparring you do. You can't. After round one, I'm not sure why Mike stopped. I'm not sure why he stopped applying that pressure. He was standing tall.

What you mean he got tired? The same reason when people running and they get tired and they start walking? Yeah, yeah. That's why. You're talking about, man, why you stop? I was tired. You're right. He caught Jake with that left hook maybe twice.

He didn't throw the uppercut not once. He didn't throw the uppercut once. Then I seen there were some rounds in the later rounds where Jake hit him across the head and he was backing up. He was biting on his... He always keeps his guard high. It was very uncomfortable for me. He was biting on his, biting on, you know, he always keep it high. It was just, it was,

it was very uncomfortable for me. It was very uncomfortable for me to see Mike, to see Mike going backwards, uncle, to see him going backwards. Mike, don't fight off his back foot on Mike. Come forward,

baby. It just, listen, kudos to Jake, you know, kudos to Mike for getting there and, um, living out a dream allowing

his kids i saw his you know what he what he wrote on twitter uh on x excuse me what he wrote on x about his kids being able to see him standing there against somebody you know 30 20 some years younger or whatever man and i'm glad you were able to fulfill that that dream or whatever it might have been being able to get back in the ring after 22 years, I salute you. Um, but I mean, it is what it is. It wasn't what I thought it would be. It wasn't what I thought it would be.

I think Jake, he stepped off the gas a little bit in the later rounds. So he would knock Mike out. If I think if he wanted to, if he applied pressure, he could have knocked Mike out if he wanted to. He, uh,

but he didn't. So, I mean, it was cool, but it wasn't what I thought but he didn't so I mean it was cool but it wasn't what I thought it wasn't what I thought it would be this is exactly what I thought it would be yeah if you look at Mike

if you look at Mike training and hitting the pads with that the pads don't move that velocity yeah even the pads don't move but listen it's different but we didn't even get that that velocity, even the pads don't move, but listen, it's different. But we didn't even get that.

We didn't even get that type of mic, that coming up under and just letting it go. That round one, I was like, oh, shit. Boy, Mike's going to kill this motherfucker. And then when round two came, it was a wrap. Oh, Joe. You know how it is, man. You know boxing.

Yeah. You've got to be well-conditioned. Very. It's different. And because the thing is, it's not that you're just running. You're throwing punches. Yeah. So you're using every part of your body. Mm-hmm.

Your arms, your back, your shoulders, your legs. Your core got to stay tight. You got to be mentally focused because you don't know where punches are coming from. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, sometimes you can get to fatigue mentally. That'll drain you. Yeah.

Yeah. And then, you know, Mike. I mean, I don't know what people were thinking. I got exactly what I thought. Yeah. I saw a 58 year old fighting. His legs. And fighting doing a cardiovascular. I could see Ochoyear-old fighting. And fighting doing a

cardiovascular. I could see Ocho if it was like weightlifting. Like you got older, you got guys in their 50s that are still strong. But it doesn't require the cardio, the lactic threshold that it would require

as a boxer. So I don't know what people thought they were gonna get. Like, oh, Mike Mike retired 22 years ago. Why? Because he didn't have because he didn't have the desire.

What you doing? Hey, his leg Mike, his legs weren't up underneath him either. They was underneath him that first round, though. That first round? Hey, he scared the shit out of Jake, boy.

My legs be up underneath me for that first round. I know he thinking in his head like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Mike, what you doing? Ocho, my legs be up underneath me for the first round. It's just when they asked for that second and third one, I ain't got nothing for them you know what I'm saying I'm big as fix

matter of fact speaking of speaking of boxing I'm glad you brought this up it's called Misfits Boxing a bunch of content creators YouTubers and they have a Misfits Boxing one of their fighters called me out today

Anthony Pretty Boy Taylor and he asked me can I make 175 pounds and they have a Misfits Box and one of their fighters called me out today. Anthony Pretty Boy Taylor. And he asked me, can I make 175 pounds or can I make 180? And I told him, I can make whatever you need me to make. So at some point in the future now, I might have to,

I need my nightcap trunks. I need my nightcap robe. You know? And so I'm going to... I ain't put you in all that nightcap gear so you get knocked out so I'm, I'm, I'm going to put you in all that nightcap gear. So you get knocked out. And they see, they see it. All they're going to see is my face and your face on the truck.

Hey, Hey, one, Hey, one, one, one. Hey, I got you, man. Yeah, I got you, baby. We good. We good. We good. We good. So I'm, I'm, I'm going to make sure I'm going to get that in the works too.

So that, that'd be a good event for all. I'll tell you what I'll tell you. I got a perfect person. You could fight. What? No, I'm fighting him. I want good. So I'm going to make sure I'm going to get that in the works too. So that would be a good event for all. I tell you I got a perfect person you could fight. What? No, I'm fighting him. I want him. Speed. You could fight Speed. Who? Speed. Who's that? The content creator, YouTube guy. No, he too little. He too little. No, he say he ready. No, he too little.

I want to fight an actual fighter. He say he want Floyd Mayweather. Oh, come on, man. I'm just telling you what he told me. Yeah, I know. He tell you, but sometimes people just be talking just to talk. Thinking it's what they want.

Everybody got a plan to get punched in the mouth. Yeah. Hey, Anthony. Anthony, pretty boy, Taylor, man. Whenever you're ready, baby, talk to me. Send a contract. It got to make sense. It got to make sense. And one thing about these hands,

they fly, baby, and they do deliver. I ain't talking about Amazon. But see, I don't know if them hands been updated yet. Oh, they been updated. I ain't stopped training boxing yet. I've been, the past four years, you got to think, I've been training now seriously, taking it actually seriously since 2021. The problem is, I ain't really had nobody

to fight. I've been waiting on Andre Ward. Andre Ward running for me. He's scared. I think that's what you call a shit fight. Who? Logan Paul should fight Andre Ward. Jake Paul should fight Andre Ward. No, no, no. Why not? You're going to get the man hurt. Don't do that. Get who hurt?

Jake, what you mean? He can't get in the ring with an experienced fighter of that magnitude. ring with an experienced fighter of that magnitude. That's an elite fighter. You're talking about you want to get in the ring with it? I beat Andre Bordas. I'm different.

I'm a fighter. How about you fight Jake Paul then? Oh, how? What you mean how? Easy. Get in there, put gloves on, put trunks on, boots boots and go to work all right cool tell jake tell jake send me the contract matter of fact oh listen to this think about this right quick jake is from cleveland ohio right think about how this would be he's from

cleveland ohio i played in cincinnati we can have the motherfucking fight right at paycor Stadium. We could fill the whole stadium at Paycor, right? Boom. Netflix, what have you, or whatnot. Battle of Ohio. Okay, guys, I'm putting it right now. I'm going to be looking for a new co-host. When does this fight take place?

I'm going to go ahead. Applicants, get your applications in. Need to be versed in a lot of different topics you can talk football talk basketball i'm sure you can research things on track and field you gotta be able to spell too yeah now that's that's your say but we're doing it we're not doing a spello anymore uh and and culture related you need to know r&b you need no pop you need to think no things that's going on. Because Ocho fight Jake Paul or Andre

Ward, unfortunately, I feel I'm going to have to have me a new partner. You won't. You won't. You know, that's going to pay dividends for us. You know, not only are we the best podcast there is. How is it going to be a dividend for us if I got to get a new partner? It ain't going to be Uncle Ocho no more.

Yeah, it is. Man, listen. Come on, man. It's going to be Uncle No- us if I got to get a new partner. It ain't going to be Uncle Nocho no more. Yeah, it is. Man, listen. Come on, man. It ain't going to be Uncle No-No. Nah, I'm going to be good. I'm going to be good. See, listen. Think about imagine me coming out. You walking me out. You know how they be having rappers walk them out? You walk me out. You know, you and Ash

walk me out. You know, I got my robe. I'm far as the ring because my knee bad. I can't walk that far. Man. I'll be telling Jordan, man, hey, how far is this thing up here, man? He be talking about, man, it's just right around the corner. I said, man, you should have got me one of those

little cards. Hey, I think that would be dope, man. Just think about it. Nightcap. Ocho versus Andre Ward. Ocho versus Andre Ward. Ocho versus Jake Paul. We might come out better in a wrestling match. No, no, no. Man, listen.

God bless me with these hands for a reason. Now, you people think I'm a feet fast. You should see these things. Here you go. Huh? You should see these things right here go. But anyway, okay. we back on we back on back on back on subject but i'm look first of all i'm glad netflix had this so they can get the

king's out because look i don't think it's gonna be that many people watching football on christmas but it just goes to show you i mean this they're gonna have no 60 million people watching i mean maybe what what you think it 12 14 15 million yeah so it's it's jake has done a hell of a job jake has done a hell of a job to be able to to get that many people to tune in to a fight like that yeah i mean you think about when they have like 70 something thousand and at&t stadium oh yeah to watch a 27 year old fight a 58 year 58-year-old. Yeah. Yeah. Commendable. Commendable. Jake, very commendable what you've been able to do over the past four or

five years. Commendable. Who do you think Jake should fight next? You? Okay. Might as well. You know, you got to deal with somebody that's much more athletic than you, someone that's in shape, that has stamina, that has the footwork of a motherfucking cheetah,

that can move, that can dodge. I can fight on the inside. I can fight mid-range. I can fight from a distance. I can dance on you. I can hit you when I want to. Don't get in the pocket, don't you? Huh?

Get on your bike and just run around. No, no, no, no, no. I ain't getting on my bike. I mean, I ain't getting on my bike. I've been training. Listen, I've been training with goddamn Bozy Ennis and Jerome. Mike Tyson was training too. Let me finish. My confidence is out the roof right now because of the people in the toolage who I've been able to train with and absorb information from over the past four years.

You hear me? Yo, I ain't listening hold your head up now hell you hold your head up now all right listen when it happened when it happened and the first thing you say when we come on the show after i fight the first thing you're gonna say is boy you was right you was right i didn't know you had it like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told you. I don't just be talking. Well, I hope that's the case.

I hope real ain't rubbing your mouth like you. Wait, who? Real. He left me. She'll be there. I mean, something happens. She'll be back. She'll be back. She ain't gonna let you go out like that she still care how you know because she does you don't you don't you don't be with somebody as long as you two have been

together and then all of a sudden your feelings just go away in two weeks or three weeks or a month she still care i mean just like you still care. And, and, and, you know, Hey, everybody tries to put on a brave face. I'm doing so good. But when you alone in your private moments, I know, Hey, everybody's going through it. Everybody's going through it. Been there, done that. I don't know. Even when you, even when you talk to them, I don't need, Hey, I was good before I met you. How you think I got this far? I didn't know even when you talk to them I was good before I met you

how you think I got this far I didn't know you I didn't know you until I was in my 40s so what did I do the first 40 years damn babe I miss you

I sure wish you'd come back I'm sorry that's what you say to yourself you gotta stand you gotta stand on that for a little while just like women say things that

I can do without you, you're not the only this blah blah blah, get it everybody's been there it's only one me, I don't give a fuck where you go it still ain't gonna be me you can go high, you can go low you can go in the middle, but it's still me it's only one me, it don't matter

it don't matter what you get you still ain't gonna get this I still i still look i think both of you guys realize i think both of you guys are special uh there's only one rail there's only one you there's a reason why you guys got together something brought you guys together yeah you've had issues before maybe not to this magnitude but hey things happen uh but at the end of the day, it's going to be, it's going to take two people getting into a room together, two people having a conversation and whether or not this is something that you two really want. That's what it comes down to.

One can't want it. The other, and you either got to go all in or not, but it's not easy. I know when you've been someone I've been in relationships where I've been there a long time and, uh, Hey, and when it's fresh, whoever party, hey, sometimes, hey, I've messed up and try to flip it. I don't care. Leave. Damn, baby, please don't. I'm saying to myself, please don't look at that, though.

Hey, remember that Martin episode? When he tried to get mad, he said, Gina, leave. I don't care. Get out of here don't get to skip nah i'm but i'm i'm good i'm good though i'm good though i'm good though listen it is i got a singular focus right now i got a single focus and oh definitely helpful you have something to occupy your time my energy busy busy? My energy and my time is devoted to Ike. It's devoted to Inside the NFL.

It's devoted to Apple. It's devoted to Pepsi. It's devoted to all these things, all these blessings. When my cup is running over, that is my singular focus right now. It's devoted to DraftKings. I can keep going. I got to stay aligned

and I got to stay anointed, you know, because the oil, God done put the oil on me, right? He done put the oil on me. He's blessed me in a way that I couldn't imagine. You do realize rail was in your life when all these things happened. Come again, press play. Rail was in your life when everything that you just had happened, the Apple, the DraftKings, the Pepsi,

the inside the NFL, this, the that, you know who's by your side, right? Okay. I'm just putting that out there. You're doing that

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