Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Coach Prime joins, Sterling Sharpe HOF, Ocho vs. James Harrison

Episode Date: February 9, 2025

From Radio Row and the Mahalia Jackson Theater in New Orleans, Unc and Ocho recap the Best moments from Super Bowl Week. Top stories include Deion "Coach Prime" Sanders giving Ocho an intervention on his relationship, Unc gets emotional as his big brother, Sterling Sharpe, is officially elected to the NFL Hall of Fame, Ocho wants to fight Pittsburgh Steelers legend James Harrison and much more!03:53 - Deion Sanders joins the show for an intervention17:00 - Stephen A. Smith weighs in on Josh Allen as MVP32:24 - Sterling Sharpe getting inducted into the Hall of Fame52:00 - James Harrison shows up to schedule Ocho vs. James Harrison fight1:02:46 - Louisiana’s own Master P joins the show(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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how y'all doing oh yeah Oh yeah. How y'all doing? Okay. Oh, it's your turn. He's going to clean, he dirty. It's your turn this time. What's up, baby? It's your turn this time.

Man, what happened? You know what happened. What? You know what happened. Yeah. Me? You remember last time, September? It was your turn. Yeah, I remember that.

Oh, boy. You remember that? It was your turn. Yeah, I was under the bus. I was under the bus. Oh, holy, oh. You remember that? You remember that? It's his turn this time. What I did? You showed your natural butt, man. Huh? You can't call me and tell me to call your lady.

Right. And to try to get you back in the game. And you ain't tell me what got you out the game. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. My bad. Yeah. My bad. Yeah. My bad. You can't put me

in them compromising situations. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I called to say, baby, let me just pray with you for a minute before we get started. By the time she got done, I was cussing. And you know I don't cuss.

I say that. What? He do what? You got to stop. I ain't do what? You got to stop. I ain't do nothing. You got to stop. Hold on. Listen to me.

Like. Stop. She went through my phone. No, dog. No? No, dog. Oh, that wasn't it? No, dog.

It was something else? I ain't going to tell them, but you know. You know what? You got to slow this Lamborghini down. Hold on, it's a new year and I got baptized. I got baptized. I know that water dirty. I know that water dirty.

That water nasty. You got to stop, dog. You too old for that. Already told him he too old for that junk he doing. He was having sex on live, not me. Yeah, but... doing what he was he was having sex on lab not me how did i get in this you started all this

i didn't say nothing i want to know what position you was in when you was making them sounds. What position were you in when you were... Backing out the microphone. Okay, my bad. It's your time. Nah, but listen, let me tell you something. Okay, let me ask you this.

Hold on, hold on. Let me ask. Okay. Call it. Anytime, bro. I need a favor. Man, what you need, O. Okay, let me ask you this. Hold on. Hold on. Let me ask. Okay. Call anytime, bro. I need a favor. Man, what you need, Ocho? You know I got your dog. Man, me and my lady beefing, man.

You know, she went through my phone. She found something. She got in one of the seats. He didn't tell me that part. Huh? I ain't getting none of that. Oh, you ain't getting none of that? I just got dog.

I need you to call. Okay. But see, this ain't the first time. Okay. This, you know, it's history. It's history. It's history. It's like on my rules. Okay. But see, this ain't the first time. Okay. You know, it's history. It's history. It's like, I know my role. So he, okay. Hey, dog, I need you. I know my role. Hey, dog,

I need you. See, when he calling me, he a really yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause he know I'm coming in with Jesus. You got the Bible? If anybody can pray him back in, I can get him back in there. You got the Bible? If anybody can pray him back in, I can get him back in there. You got the Bible? The Bible's just...

But you got to understand, listen, 2024 for me, I got baptized in 2023. So I found out throughout the year that shit was weighing off. It was weighing off. So what I did was, listen to me now, stay with me, stay with me. I called you because there wasn't nothing I could say. Yep. Every scripture in the Bible says those things I wish not to do is those things I find myself doing. Right.

That's you. Right. That's Proverbs. Proverbs 4.12. You got to stop now. You don't want, you don't, you don't learn two scriptures. You're trying to use them like it's a stone. You're trying to use them like it's a slingshot.

You can't do that. This man here always talking about Proverbs. He don't know nothing about Adverbs. He learned two scriptures. All he know is Adverbs. Let me tell you something. What would make me mad about him is grandma taught him more than that. Yeah. You ain't know grandma. Oh, you ain't met grandma.

Grandma got me right in there one day on the porch. But you can't get baptized every year. Huh? You can't get baptized. Yes, he can. You treat baptism like life is renewed. Don't do that, though. Because, you know, he got to be in church to baptize. I just want him to go.

I went to church. That's what they did today. That's what I'm trying to tell you. No, they did it in the head. They did it in the head like that. It's more than that, though. You can't treat baptism like you get your registration renewed. No, I don't every year Yeah, it's too soon now. Because we ain't even got. Time. We ain't even got help. Hold on, time.

It ain't too soon, though. I'm on the big couch. Okay, okay. You don't get the big couch. Okay, hey. How he chastising me and he. I ain't chastising you. He ain't throwing a stone.

He just trying to help. Yeah. But you can't put me in a situation. He need help. Right. You right. Yeah, but I'm at the doghouse now, though. Now, you should be at the dog house.

But guess what? Guess what you learned? Guess what you learned? Time. Who do the best hair? People that hair messed up. What you said? The ladies that do the best hair, their hair be messed up.

Yeah, all the time. I give the best hair to my best hair. And the nail people too. And the nail people too. The nail people, like, they nails be too hard, but they can do some nails. So you right. Tell him I asked you this time. You was just at the ceremony.

I ain't done with him. Huh? I'm not done with him. Hey, we got to know. We got to know. Okay, all right. Josh Allen wins the MVP. Who?

Josh Allen. Josh Allen won the MVP. He did. They got Lamar out of both trophies. Yeah. They got him out of the offensive player and the MVP. They got to stop this, man. I said the same thing.

No, no, no. There's nothing against Josh Allen because Josh Allen can play. He balled. Let's just get this straight. And you leave him alone because he wear my shoes every game. So leave him alone. Every game, faithfully. You got to be kidding me, dog.

I just left. They must have did it when I walked out. You walked out the other day. Hey, Tom, somebody say that was a DEI. That was a DEI MVP. Because you and I had a conversation, and I said, Tom, Lamar just won first-team all-pro quarterback. If he won first-team all-pro quarterback, that means 50 men and women

thought he was the best player. How can you have a guy that's the first team all pro quarterback and he doesn't win MVP? The guy won MVP, was second team all pro quarterback. I know somebody that was, had better statistics than everybody

but one person as a quarterback and he won the Johnny Unitas award, but he finished eight in the Heisman. How does that happen? Oh, my bad. He's my son. That's how that happened.

But it's the games they play. It's the games they play. They make the rules. Who is they? Don't be talking about them. Say who they is.'t be talking about them. I don't need to decide. Say who they is. Don't be doing that. They don't need no more context. But I'm just saying, they make the rules.

Therefore, they get to choose regardless of what Lamar Jackson did today. Josh Allen could play, though. Yes, yes, yes. I ain't never said he couldn't play. But at the time, if he was first-team all-pro quarterback, would you have had a problem with him winning the MVP? No. But also, the offensive MVP, he should have won offensive MVP.

Offensive player to you? Yeah, player to you. I'm sorry. Before being the MVP? Yes. He should have swept both of them, actually. So what message is that telling you? Key sweat.

Something, something just ain't right. Something, something. Something, something just ain't something. Just ain't right. Hey. Time off. Are you back in there? Are you back in the house? I can't hear you.

You heard me. Rell. Where she at? She here. She really here? Where she at? Where she at? In the back.

Rell, where you at? Come here. Yeah, we here to come here for this, Joe. Rell. You back, though? She here? You back? Come here, Rae.

Back where? In that. Nah. She coming out. We still in separate houses. What? We still in separate houses. You still in separate houses?

But you eating? I'm in therapy. So what you doing at night? Huh? What you doing at night? What am I doing at night? Yeah, you heard me. Let go to strip club.

Anybody say Hornig and him. You want to go to strip club? Why are you going to strip club? I can goig or him? You want to go to the strip club? Why are you going to the strip club? I can go. For wings? No, no. Fives. Where's she at?

She gone. You were there when the Hall of Fame Award announced. Yeah. I was there. I'm happy. Eric Allen. You know I'm going to go back. I'm happy.

I'm happy. Here we go. Come over here. Come over here. Come over here. Come over here. Come over here. Good Lord, girl. That nigga lost his mind. Do you remember our conversation?

I do remember the conversation. And we're not going to tell everything, but he showed his natural, didn't he? He showed his bare ass. Oh, Lord. So is he back? He working? No, didn't he? He showed his bare ass. Oh, Lord. So is he back? No, not yet. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

So we not together? And don't be trying to check online either. You see what he's trying to do? He's trying to put it on the front. Hold on, hold on. In front of my company? This is my family. Answer the question. Are we together or not?

Hey. I ain't going to say let the dog back. What's wrong with you? What if that was your sister? Or your daughter? You heard me? Remember that trip we talked about by going to the DR? Excuse me? The trip we talked about by going to the DR. Yeah, we're going to the DR now. We're going to the DR. Who me? The trip we talking about by going to the DR. Yeah, we going to the DR now.

We going to the DR. I'm sorry. Who is we? We? You and me. Hold on. You just said all us going. We already planned this trip. Don't y'all want to see us go to the DR?

No. No, it wasn't the DR. I don't want to go to the DR. You just- It was Columbia. You just clowned me. We going to Columbia. You ain't going to the DR. Y'all need to go to Bible class It was Columbia. You just clowned me. We're going to Columbia. You ain't going to DR. Y'all need to go to Bible class.

Where we need to go? Bible study. Bible study. I mean, you know what? Single people? No, only married people go to Bible study, huh? No, don't do that. No?

Uh-uh. Don't do that. Don't you do that. Don't do that. Now y'all want me to go after you came out here clowning me. You joined in. Well, she said we ain't together, so I'm going to the DR.

I'm telling everybody what happened about him and you. I'm not discriminating. You told us we going. All y'all said we going together. I'm going. I don't know about y'all. I got to work. Me too. You know how many jobs he got.

Oh, no. Hold on. We can work from out there. What do you mean we can work from out there? We got Wi-Fi in the DR. Did he ask for forgiveness? Mm-mm. No.

Chad, come on. Hey, what you need to do is put in. You didn't ask for forgiveness? Hold on. Yeah. Huh? Anybody say honk in here. What you said?

Nope. Did you ask for forgiveness? Yeah, from the Lord. That's a good one now. That's a good one. What do you, instead of wifi, you need to, hey, what you need to do instead of that I on the end, you need to put an E.

Yeah. Wait, hold on, say it again. Instead of that I on the end of wifi, you need to drop that I and put an E. Y-hmm. Wait, hold on. Say it again. Instead of that I on the end of Wi-Fi, you need to drop that I and put an E. Wi-Fi. Close enough. She got to work for this. You hear this, man? Lord Jesus.

Huh? You just getting deeper and deeper. I'm about to exit the stage, y'all. You know what? Rel will be coming back later. When you walk out, Rel. Walk in front of him. Walk in front of him. He trying to trip me.

Alright, baby. He ain't crazy. Look at him. You don't have to walk like that real see you gotta stop dog we had this conversation what i do wrong everything no i'm good i'm good you're not good stop saying that you're selfish we in front of company you're selfish they don't know what i'm talking about But you selfish That's why I stopped calling you That's why I stopped calling you

Y'all understand we're like brothers He's the little brother that stays in trouble He's the big brother No he's the middle brother that I'm trying to Stephen A Smith I'm swinging on him Where's Stephen A. Smith. I'm swinging on it. Where's Stephen A.? I need a job.

I'm swinging on it. You can work with me. Huh? I got a job for you. What you want me to do? Receiver. You want to be a receiver coach? Assistant?

Wait, I can come coach at Colorado? Yeah. What's the pay? What's the job? What's the job? What you need me to do? A lot. If the money right, I'll be there. Can you teach what you did?

Oh, that's a good one. I don't know if they got feet like this, but I can teach. What's Stephen A? You asked a question. You talking about you want a job. He asked you a question. You're talking about you want a job. He asked you a question. Can you teach what you did? He asked me, can I teach what I did?

Have you seen somebody be able to do what I did back then yet? I see some people with good feet, not quite like yours. You were special. I'm going to give it to you. You were special. There go your answers. Well, maybe the people that had feet like yours weren't trying to teach it. Now, the question is, can you teach?

I can teach. I can teach. I just want to know the pay. I could be in Colorado tomorrow. I could do nightcap from Boulder. You know what? We both could do nightcap from Boulder. Let's go. I like that. I like that.

I like that. I like that. Are we good? Are we good? Y'all good? And now, coming to the stage, Steven A. Smith. I like he a stripper or something the way y Stephen A Smith.

I like his stripper or something the way y'all come. Hey. You see the wall? You see the wall? That's that money wall. What they do, baby? Y'all hire him? Good to see you.

Y'all hire him? Say see you. Y'all hiring? Say what? I want to be on first take. We got the people here in front of you, so I want to get us out. Oh, you've been working out too. My dog's been working. What day? I want to make sure y'all hit us.

What day can I join first take? What day you join first take? What day? The day I tell you. Okay, okay, okay. We getting somewhere. That's enough. Anything you want to share?

No, not yet. You sure? I'm good. Life is good. Life is good. I can't complain. It's good to see y'all. Thank y'all for coming out with my boys.

It don't get no better than what they doing, and we know what the hell he's been doing. So it's all good. I'm in good company tonight. We've been talking about this, and we've been going back and forth. Josh Allen won the MVP. Lamar Jackson was first-team All-Pro quarterback,

which is, I'm surprised, I'm shocked that it happened. What are your thoughts? I'm kind of glad Lamar didn't win it. For real? Let me explain. That's the setup. You got two league MVPs.

Every other individual in NFL history who's had two league MVPs have won a Super Bowl championship. Lamar, if you will be quiet and let me explain, I will make sure you understand my explanation. What I'm saying is if he had won three, then the heat on him next year would have intensified even more. And we'd highlight his failures more instead of appreciating his greatness more. Josh Allen winning the MVP. Well, congratulations. Now what you going to do? Because we going to talk about you the same way we talked about Lamar Jackson now.

Because now you are MVP. Where's your chip? And if we're not going to talk about him not having the chip, we can't do that to Lamar Jackson either. That's why. I like it, but I don't love it. I understand it. I like it, but I don't love it. I understand it. I like it, but I don't love it. I understand your philosophy. I understand how you flip that. Brilliant. That's what I expect from you. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to

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He was the most valuable quarterback in the NFL to his team, to our league, to his offense. Am I right or wrong, Mr. Stephen A. Smith? I'll give that to you, but allow me to retort. We walked into this season and we looked at Baltimore and the acquisition of Derrick Henry. And we said, they're monsters. They're going to win the AFC. We saw Josh Allen. He lost Steph Stefan Diggs. He lost Gabe Davis. He had a rookie wide out in Keon Coleman. He didn't get Amari Cooper until the middle of the season, and he was balling out. Up until the last week of the season or so, Shannon and I, along with everybody else, was debating who was the MVP.

We were leaning towards Lamar Jackson, but it wasn't like we had summarily dismissed Josh Allen because he had played on an elite level and he didn't have as much to work with. So you're absolutely right with what you're saying. If we're able to look at Lamar Jackson and say, there ain't no need to discuss nobody else because nobody else was even close. But we know that wasn't the case with Josh Allen because of the personnel that he was working with, the absence of expectations, how he had exceeded expectations.

And because of that is why I feel the way that I feel. Looking at this game, Kansas City going for an unprecedented three-peat. You got the Philadelphia Eagles that were here just three years ago. This is the second time they're here in three years. We know what's at stake. We got Saquon, who had an unbelievable season, offensive player of the year.

You got Jalen Hurst, who played unbelievable, had to run turnover, and they ended up losing that ball game. If you had to to bet your money who do you like in this game on Sunday well you don't bet against Patrick Mahomes you don't bet against Patrick Mahomes however if you want to roll the dice and take chances because there's more money out there to get if you take a risk. You look at Philly. Philly collectively is the better team. They are. You look at our, and then we talk about Saquon Barkley, 2,005 yards rushing. He's been electrifying.

But we didn't mention this enough. Do y'all know their offensive line averages 6 feet 6, 328 pounds. Some big boys up there. I mean, these brothers plug holes as wide as Broadway on a Sunday morning. If you can do that against Kansas City's defense, Philadelphia Eagles are going to win the championship. But I think you've got to do that because Patrick Mahomes is on the other side. You're going to have to do that in order to win this game.

He really answered the question. If you were a bad man, who are you putting your money on? I would bet on Philly. I would take a chance to bet on Philly. Okay. But I recognize that I'm taking a chance, but I will still bet on Philly. Right. You said Patrick Mahomes several times.

I like that. Since I got into this coaching realm, I look at coaches a lot differently. I have a lot more respect for the coaches than what they're doing. Andy Reid is unflappable. Andy Reid has never been just flat out outcoached in a one-on-one battle for it all. Andy Reid will have his team ready and prepared, and he will have a few wrinkles up in sleeves for situational football like we hadn't seen before. So I know we're talking about Patrick Mahomes,

but Andy Reid plays a major role in this whole situation. And if it was Coach, Coach is going toe-to-toe. Ain't no contest. There you go. I mean, I respect Sirianni, but he ain't no Andy Reid. There you go. Over the last year,

we've seen you kind of get into politics. We see you at 2%, 2.5%, 3%. People are talking about Stephen A. Smith. He's resonating. What made you decide to say, you know what, I want to branch out into politics. I want to talk politics. I've been this way all my life. I was neutralized to some degree by my employers first the Philadelphia Inquirer then CNN then Fox Sports then the SPN they wanted us you know the industry itself and I've talked to you about this personally Shannon I told you the beauty of athletes the greatness of this brother the greatness of all three of y'all

what the thing that you know but you can't fully appreciate because you've never been constricted to that level is that y'all have a level of freedom and independence that less talented individuals like myself that had to go through the maze of corporate America has to experience. And so it comes with restrictions. You're an employee, not an independent contractor. There's a healthcare plan that comes with it. That's the benefit. The hazard is that it has restrictions everywhere. You can't do this. You can't do that. You represent the brand, not just yourself. We want you pigeonholed here. We want you marginalized here, et cetera, et cetera. But what they didn't know about me is that all

my life, I mean, as much as I love sports, watching presidential debates was like a Super Bowl to me. Watching a gubernatorial debate was like a Super Bowl to me. I love the volleying back and forth. I love having at least a speck of knowledge about the issues that affect us. To me, I don't even consider it politics. I consider it social commentary. It ain't politics when I'm talking about the economy, healthcare, immigration, education, crime in the streets, et cetera.

You know, that's real life issues that I deal with. I'm from Hollis, Queens, New York City. I'm from the streets of New York. That's real life issues to me. And so when I see a bunch of people who don't look like me, who don't share my cultural identity, who don't have my experience, who don't walk the streets and haven't walked the streets the way that I have. My attitude is you might know the issues, but you don't know the true impact that it has on everyday people. And I'm one of those people. I don't give a damn what kind of success I have I still roll back to Hollis I still pull up at a White Castles I still go in the park in New York City I still

I am who I am and so when the opportunity finally presented itself and I was able to branch out it was courtesy and this is where all of y'all play a role. Prime was an independent dude, always preached about independence. You came with Club Shea Shea. And then after that, Nightcap. And when y'all came about, and y'all were doing your thing along with others like The Pivot and others, I said, hold on. You've been holding me back, holding me back, holding me back.

But these other fellas got their own platform Well, I got my own now. I own and operated 100% What's the problem? And they were like we can't say anything and so when I went there and did it they were like wait a minute now You doing sports? That's us So we can't stop you from doing it, but we'll be damned if you gonna just have a sports show right then This should be for us. I said, I don't want a sports show.

And when I told them pop culture and entertainment and politics, they're like, go ahead. Because nobody thought that I would resonate because they didn't know. And so finally they said, oh, damn. He had the Situation Room. He on Hannity. He on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow or somebody else. He's on Politico. He's on News Nation. What the hell is going on? And all I said in response was here I come. I told you I was coming. And the goal is to resonate and to make a

difference and affect our community and all communities in as much of a positive way as possible and that's what I'm doing right now so they saw it they put me on Bill Maher on HBO real time with Bill Maher they wanted me on they put me on The View and they said oh shit this brother is real he it's something special going on here and then everybody started calling and I'm like this this ain't new. This has always been me. If you if you think about the conversations we've had off the air, think about the things we talk about. Think about the things I've shared with all three of y'all at one point in time or another. And all of y'all have espoused words of wisdom on me. And I'm always appreciative of that.

But I'm an independent thinker and I got my own mind and I use other people to edify me, to educate me. But when I know the issues, I ain't scared of a damn thing. If I know my facts, I'm going raw. And that's what I'm doing. Amen.

Proud of you both. Look at your brother. Right there. Hey! What they do, Hall of Famer? Boss man, what they do, baby? Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. No, no, no.

Get back to work. My knee's bad. No, my knee's bad. Thank you very much. It's been a long day and even longer trying to get here from over there. But thank you for staying. Hopefully we can get you out of here shortly because I got to get up early in the morning again. But a tremendous day. It's an honor and a pleasure to follow that guy for a change. And being the first brothers inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That's loud.

Don't you cry up here. Don't do that. I want to know, you have to tell me, tell the people out here, understanding and knowing all you've been through, where y'all come from, what it took to make it to the NFL, the struggles having to leave the game early early what this night means to you it's um it's kind of interesting uh Oach because I never wanted to be in the hall of fame I never expected to be in the hall of fame this is not

something I asked for this is not something I Fame. This is not something I asked for. This is not something I wished for. This is not something I prayed for. Because when I left the game, the only thing anybody ever talked about is what I didn't do. Now, I'm okay with that. I am. I'm okay with what I put on film. I'm okay with that. So I never had any expectations. This is not like

Christmas to where, you know, you want a skateboard or you want a bike or you want them pair of Jordans. This isn't like that. So for me today is kind of interestingly surreal because I didn't want this. This is not something I wished on myself. But, you know, being there and seeing my friends that are in the Hall of Fame that were more excited than seem like I am right now, but they were genuinely happy. My good friend, Terrell Owens, I hope I'm not doing anything wrong by putting Terrell's business in the street, but T.O. cried. T.O. and I go way, way, way back to before he even got in the league, and he was so happy for me that he and I had about a good 45 second moment to where we just kind of, we kind of got wrapped up in each other and the history and the time and all that. So it's been

a really good day, Oach. But let me tell you, I haven't gotten there yet. It's gonna take a little more time to get there. Yeah. congratulations. Thank you, thank you. And I know, hey, been a long time since you seen that guy speechless over there. Yeah, you know, your little brother loves you, man. Yes, he does. When he talks about you, he talks about the man that,

your only man that he's ever hoped to be, to measure up to, because he knows he couldn't do it. And anybody that knows you, and anybody that knows him knows how he feels about you. Me personally, you know how much love I've always had for you. No doubt. Let's get some tissue, man.

We need some tissue up here. For those of you who might be too young to remember, we religiously talk about Jerry Rice being the greatest receiver in NFL history. Those who know football before T.O., before Randy Moss, we would all mention him because he was that sensational of a wide receiver. He was big time. And so to then watch you transition into the business before your brother did, you did a hell of a job talking the game of football, teaching the game of football,

working with cats in the industry and showing us the way as well and had that pedigree. There's so many people that followed that played in the NFL and now doing television. You were doing it before most, and you were doing exceptionally well. And so for me to see you have this day is well-deserved, and I'm just happy for you. It's long overdue, but it's here. Congratulations.

Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations. I think the thing is why I get so emotional when people ask why. I say because I had GPS to get to where I'm going because I had to follow him. You see, he did what he did with no navigational system. He had no MapQuest. He had no Google. He had no instructional manual. I had all of that because I got to walk in his footsteps. A lot of what I learned, almost everything that I learned, I learned from him. My grandfather was very, very hard on my brother. And I didn't understand why until my grandmother said, Barney, why are you so hard on Spanky? That's what we call it. He said,

Mary, everything that little one is going to learn, he's going to learn it from him. It's his job, because we're not going to be around Mary alone. It's his job because we're not going to be around Mary alone. It's his job to teach him how to be a man. It's his job to teach him right from wrong. He's going to follow everything that he does because that's what he sees all the time. For my brother to do what he's done with no guidance, with no instruction manual, to get to where he got,'ve ever wanted to be was him. He was my hero.

He was my role model. He taught me to shoot a basketball. He taught me to throw a football. He taught me how to catch. He taught me how shoot a basketball. He taught me to throw a football. He taught me how to catch. He taught me how to tie my shoes. I'm not the man that's sitting before you today. I watched everything that he did. I hung on everything that he said.

And then you heard me tell this story that he's only three years older than I, but he's more like my father. My sister's eight years older. She's more like my mother because everything that they did was what a mother and a father would do for a child. I'm not here. I'm not the man that I am. I'm not the person that I am. I'm not the friend that I am. I'm not the father that I am without seeing how he did things. He's we're brothers. We're a lot alike, but we're very different because I've always had to fight. Everything

came so easy to him. I was so small. They call me peewee and I just I could never understood. I never understood why I couldn't beat him in certain things. He was always prouder of things that I did as opposed to what he accomplished. He was much more happy when I got drafted than he did. He went first pick in the seventh round. I mean, first, the seventh pick in the first round. I went seventh round 192. He was so excited. He would just call and say, I

mean, he just and y'all don't know what this moment means. Not just to our family. My mom is going to be extremely excited. I'm extremely excited. A high school coach who coached my mom who also coached he and I. But this is a and God heard prayers I didn't even know he was listening to. There'll be a time that you and I'll have a conversation. We'll talk, mapping everything out, guests that you want to bring, and the party and the entertainment that you want.

Bro. Bro. I've said it before. We give every dime. Take myself out of the hall just for you to be in. I measure my life in summers. I don't say years. I figure I'm pretty got, hopefully, pretty healthy.

I got 20 summers left. I'm good now. I'm good. Love you. There's only two men, guys, I've ever told that I love. My son and my brother. God have mercy.

It was so hard to keep this a secret Stephen A when I got the call and I had to get him to come to my home and they wanted to go do it in Glenville I said bro I haven't been to Glenville in 13 years he gonna know something up if I tell him to come down there. So I can lure him to the house. Still, he hadn't seen me in my home in six years. So if I call and I tell him to meet me somewhere, he's going to think something's wrong.

Like, bro, what's up, bro? He's like, what's up? I said, man, just come to the house. He's like, I'm in town. He's like, you all right? I said, yeah, bro, I'm good. I'm good. I just, you know, I'm in town and you know, you close by. And he had

surgery on his eye. He had a detached retina. He had a bubble placed in his eye. He almost lost the vision in his eye about three months ago. And said he had some blurred vision in his eye. He went to the doctor,

and the doctor said, we got to perform surgery. They couldn't perform surgery that afternoon because he had already eaten, so they got him in the next morning. So that's what we've been dealing with. Had a lot on my plate dealing with that because I worry.

I'm the warrior of the family. I think that's my responsibility now. But, bro, I'm so happy. I'm so proud of you i'm getting there it's it's hard to explain because you don't want to put your emotions on someone else but you you know and i think that the easiest way to explain it is we've all experienced, I think, Christmas. You have a list and you're hoping that you could get two, three or four of those things. I never wished for this. I never wanted this.

And I said it tonight out loud for the first time. And the reporter was like, what do you mean you never? I'm like, man, you don't understand. I only wanted to do one thing. And that was play. I didn't want to be an all pro or pro bowler or all that. I just wanted to play. And I got to do that for seven years. And I'm good. And then the Hall of Fame comes around and they're like, okay, you've been out five years. You know, Sterling Sharp is on the list of 25. You know, he would be a shoe in if he played longer. But they never talked about what I did. And I was like, if it wasn't enough, wasn't enough. I'm okay with that.

I slept real good before I found out I was going to the Hall of Fame. And I slept good after finding out. But I really didn't have any aspirations on winning this. It is a tremendous honor. I know exactly what that means. I went through it with him and that was the greatest athletic achievement of my entire life was going on that journey with him through the Hall of Fame. Me going in will not exceed when he went in. It won't do it. It's not going to come close. That was probably the happiest I'd ever been

because I knew where he came from going to Savannah State, a college he said he wasn't going to go. That's one of the times that I told him what he was going to do. So I knew how hard he fought. And I mean, there's not a lot of opportunities for us in sports to where I know what Stephen A's journey was like to get here, or I know what Chad's journey was like to get here. I know what his journey was like. And all my prayers were for him. I'll embarrass him about one story. I paid all his bills. He was in the NFL. I paid all his bills until my daughter was born because that was mine.

Because I wanted him to always have better than what I had. He had a Mercedes before I did. He couldn't afford one, but he was driving one. And then he wanted to go to a beach party and he drove my new one and wrecked it. I junkyard it. He junk, yeah, that's what he said. I junkyard your car, dog. Wait, what?

So you have to understand that, that we are, we we're brothers, but we are, we're one side of the same coin. We'll say different things differently and we'll do different things differently, but we think alike. And, uh, God is truly, you know, um, and I will tell you this story and I'm going to be quiet. A guy said to me, if you go in the Hall of Fame, are you going to do like everybody else and thank God because you think God wanted you to be a Hall of Famer? If there is a God. And I said this. I said, my own brother stood up and said. If you would have played longer, there's no question in my mind that we would be the first brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That was in 2011. Since he said that, I have not had one catch, I have not gained one yard, and I have not scored one touchdown, and we are the first brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

So you tell me if there is a God and that I should give him some glory. And so, you know, for me, that is what I'm probably most proud of is everybody used to say, you know, Shannon, stop trying to be like him. You can't be like him, Shannon. Stop trying to do what he does, Shannon. You can't do what he does. Stop trying to imitate him, Shannon. Be your own man, Shannon. I am so happy to say he didn't follow me around. I followed him. Thank you. Class of 2025 Pro Football Hall of Famer, Sterling Sharp.

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No, you lost your mind. Huh? You lost your mind. Debo! Debo is a killer, dog. Debo nasty, too. He who? Debo.

Debo strong. He physical. He violent. That ain't got nothing to do with fighting. What are you talking about? Yes, it does. Why are you scared? Man, that shit don't mean nothing, nigga.

It means nothing. Deebo walk out like Deebo. Deebo, don't look at him like that. He gonna run. Deebo got some freesia. Hey, I mean, like, that shit work on, like, regular people, man. That shit don't scare nobody, nigga. What the fuck are you talking about, boy?

I'm on whatever you want, boy. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Shannon. Huh? I need to be a part of this. Because I want to buy the gates. It ain't going to be no regular ring. I'm putting gates up high. Because he going to try to get up out of this. Because I want to buy the gates. It ain't going to be no regular ring. I'm going to put gates up high. Because he's going to try to get up out of there.

Me? Yes. I want high gates. It's the octagon. I want high gates. He's the octagon. He want the MMA. No, no.

I want high gates so he can't get out. Hold on, hold on. So what you're sitting here telling me is you know how I am. You know how I'm built. You know the cloth I'm cut from. And you don't believe in me? Because a nigga look like that? Yes.

Yes. All right, bet. Yeah. Hey, all I'm saying, we sit, let me paint the picture for you. All four of us in prison. Yeah. It's getting ready to get dogged.

Me and Shannon We walk out Cause we in the next sale And Debo's just sitting up there eating some chips Looking at you Something going down that night It ain't gonna be Debo It definitely ain't going to be Devo. It definitely ain't going to be me.

I'm just trying to figure out, look, I understand that y'all played in the same division. And, you know, I don't think y'all ever beat Pittsburgh. But what makes you think that you can beat this man? He put his pants on, right? One leg at a time, just like me. What did you talk about? Yeah, but the difference is his pants don't fit Mickey Mouse. But he's a large. Exactly.

It's funny. I mean, I think we look at aesthetics, we look at size, we look at somebody being big. We look at a nickname like Deebo, and we mistake that with, okay, he can whoop everybody. Not everybody. No. he can whoop everybody. Not everybody. I didn't say everybody. Who came up with this foolishness? Who came up with this foolishness? What foolishness?

No, come on, man. Everybody in the NFL is scared of Deebo. What? Everybody in the NFL is scared of Deebo still. Wait, when was the last time you played, though? A decade. When was the last time you played? Last time A decade. When was the last time you played? Last time I played?

Yeah. Last time I played was 17, 18. We lost to Philly. Philly Super Bowl. That's a long time ago, and we still skate. I did the same thing you did. Lost Super Bowl. Do you ever watch people work out like his tapes?

What do you mean? I work out, too. Not like that. I don't need to work out like that. That ain't my strength. That ain't my strength. That ain't my forte. But I know I have a certain skill set that I've acquired over time. So you're going to stay outside and just jab?

Yeah, kill it, nigga. But you know he coming? Who? He coming. Coming where? You know what? Can I have the ring size cut down? So you don't want him to be able to run?

I don't want him to be able to do nothing. I ain't throwing no towel in. Everybody going to be able to, all his people in the corner going to be butt naked. Ain't going to be no towels. It sounds like the whole crowd, nobody believe in me, and it's just how it was when I was growing up. Nobody believe in me.

Can we take a poll? Who got Ocho? Yeah! Yeah yeah let you go nigga what too bad they ass ain't gonna be in the ring with you who got Debo see what

just happened was the women who like thugs and like they dudes to come home when they want to, they the ones yelling. All the fellas like, Demo, they know you're going to kill you, dog.

See, you got a select crowd. I like that. I like that you got an audience. Don't worry about it. Just set the fight up, man. Oh, it's going to happen. Just set the fight up. I'm not a betting man. Can I bet on? I'm not a betting man, but I bet on this one.

You bet on what? You heard me. What you said? I'm not a betting man, but I will bet on this one. I'm betting too. Who you betting your money on? Who you think? Me?

I'm betting on Devo on 30 seconds. Over under the first round. Huh. Over under the first round. Huh? Over under the first round. No, no, no, he gonna run. He gonna run. He in shape now, he gonna run. So he ain't gonna catch you in that first round.

It's gonna be by round three. He said he wasn't running. Oh, he running. That's what he said. He said he wasn't running. That's the philosophy, he gonna run. Deebo, he's gonna run. Who gonna run? You gonna run. Ibo, he's going to run. Who going to run?

You going to run. I ain't never ran from nobody in life. I ain't never ran from nobody in life. You ain't never done this. Huh? You done this once or twice. I've been fighting since 87. What are you talking about?

No, I ain't talking about that type of fight. What's the difference? It's a big difference. Man, y'all scared, man. First of all, you're different. What do you mean we're scared? We ain't got to fight. I ain't scared. I'm just saying, man. You're going to beat that nigga scared, man. First of all, you different weight class. What you mean we scared? We ain't got to fight. I ain't scared.

I'm just saying, man. Nigga, beat that nigga ass, man. What I got to do with me? I don't care how big he is. We going to thump. They trying to help you out. They trying to talk some sense into you. I don't need no sense, nigga.

No, D-Bo don't cut no deal. I'm going to take all them chains off your neck when I knock your ass out, too. I bet you won't. Yeah. Yep. Hey, dog. Can I have the 85? Matter of fact. That's the only thing I want. I bet you won't. Yeah. Matter of fact. That's the only thing I want. I give you all that other shit.

Oh yeah, I want the bracelet. Hey Tab, you want to take your name too and call me Ocho. You want that cross bracelet? Ooh, I want that cross bracelet for sure. Well, you know how to get it. Hey, B-Boy. That's the only way to get it. I love it. You know how to get it. Hey, D-Bo. D-Bo. That's the only way to get it. I love it.

You know how to get it. Yeah. Well, you know how to get it. You got the right one. There ain't nothing other people be scared of you. D-Bo, when you knock him out, can I get the third bracelet? Well, mama told me don't mess with nobody that's scared of you because they pull a gun or a knife.

I'm glad you want to shoot me. I don't got no gun. He ain't going to shoot you. I want to shoot you. No, I want the third one. I want the third one. Yeah. Whoa, whoa, dog.

Whoa, whoa, hold up. Everybody picking what they want. Yeah. I want the third one. I want the third one. Oh, yeah. Whoa, whoa, dog. Whoa, whoa, hold up. Everybody pick it, what they want. Yeah. I want the third one. Yeah, pick what you want. What's that shoe you with? 11. I want them. Yeah.

It's funny, y'all. It's funny y'all don't believe me, but it's all good. I believe in you. I'm going to shock the world. You going to shock the world? I'm going to shock the world. I believe I'm going to get that bracelet. I'm going to shock the world.

Hey, that one I believe in. D-Boy ain'm gonna get that bracelet. I'm gonna shock the world. That's what I believe. D-Boy ain't cut no deal either. He ain't cut no deal. Like, it ain't gonna be no fake, fake spec either. I don't care nothing about that. He don't get down like that. I don't care nothing about that. Is that a day date?

What are you talking about cut a deal? What's a deal? I'm saying you don't cut deals. You're not going, you know, like they did the other thing that we just saw that everybody wanted to see with Paul and Tyson. That's what I'm saying. You ain't cut no deal. Oh, no.

You ain't cutting no deal. You ain't cutting no deal. Cut a deal for what? This will be the first time I'm actually saying this to kill somebody and get away with it. Dog. Don't go in there, dog. Hey,

you let that shit scare you? It scares me? Yeah. Yeah, I ain't got a fight. That nigga scared me. I'm built different, man. Man, I ain't got to fight. I ain't got to fight. That thing scared me. I'm built different, man. Man, go ahead and get your name. Make sure you go, make sure you rail everything in rail name. I'm built different.

In rail. Make sure you put everything in your name, baby. Hey, can I get some insurance on you? Yeah, make sure. Keep it cute, nigga. All right, man. Good. Keep up.

All right. We still right here. Ain't nothing but air and opportunity. All right. I got, I got. Hey. We got to pay this. Hey, no, you take it off. Yeah. We still right here. Ain't nothing but air and opportunity. You go out there. You go out there. Hey, no. Take it off.

That's what I'm waiting on. Take it off. Take it off. That's what I'm waiting on. Why they do that at? Take out that chain in a fight. What? Right in your face. I thought it was about to go for the hoodie.

I was waiting for it. about to go for the hoodie. I was waiting for it. Set the fucking date, man. Fuck you. Nah, nigga, fuck you. It does. August, August. What is happening?

Can I be your manager? You masked the tape. You soft. You mushed. Ocho, I'm sorry. Ocho. You had to show me. Can I manage you?

Huh? Can I manage you? I want to be your manager. Nah, nah. You don't even believe in me. No, no, no. Let me tell you what I'm going to do. I want to be your manager. Nah, nah, you don't even believe in me. No, no, no. Let me tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to let somebody in the crowd be my manager and you get some of the purse. Okay, let me tell you what I'm going to do because I'm his manager.

Because we're going to blow this fight up. We're going to make a lot of money off this fight because we got some big drawers. Not drawers, but drawers. But I'm going to make you a lot of money because I'm going to have every part of your body rented out. The bottom of your shoes, your back,

I'm going to, they're going to see everything when he knocks you out of here. I'm going to have, I'm going to rent this part out. I'm going to have everything on you. Boost mobile on your neck. I got you, dog. Make all your jokes.

No, I'm dead serious. Make all your jokes. But when you fall, don't be trying to congratulate me. Boy, I know I believed you. I knew you could do it. I don't want to hear none of that shit from none of y'all.

You ain't gonna hear it from me. You ain't gonna hear it from me. I know. I'm gonna say, you know what I'm gonna say? Show your ass up to work tomorrow. I'm gonna climb up under the ring so I can talk to you when you fall. Oh, you're going to be the conscience.

I'm going to get up up. Stay down. Don't you get up on your bottom. Get up, dog. You got it. All right. Don't worry about it. You're killing him.

You're killing him with your face. I'm just trying to figure out, why not boxing, something that you do? Why would you want to go MMA? No, because I want to go MMA? No, because I want to make sure he's comfortable in something that he's good at. Or he thinks he's good at. Also, what I'm going to do, man, I ain't going to even lie. I don't want to punish your face, break everything in your face, break your bones or nothing.

What I'm doing, I'm going to choke you out. And I'm going to choke you out, and I'm not going to let go. And the ref is going to have to choke me out to let you go. He mean this stuff, man. Do you see this dude, man? Ain't no way in the world I'm getting no to let go. And the ref going to have to choke me out. He going to let you go. He mean this stuff, man. Do you see this dude, man? Ain't no way in the world I'm getting no Divo. That shit don't scare nobody, man. It scares me. Y'all weak, man.

And as your manager, he afraid for you. I'm telling you, dog. You know they say the loudest one in the room is the weakest one in the room. If your manager come in all white. If your manager come in all white. Why you come in all white? Because your manager come in all white. Why you come in all white? Because it ain't going to be no towel. I'm going to just flip in the rain.

I'm tired. I'm tired of talking. Just get a date. We're going to set it up. Now coming to the stage, Louisiana's own, New Orleans' own, Master P. We got P here. We got my dog here Where's P? There you go

We got my P Did you see when I played Bada Bada in the meeting room? I had to educate the youngsters. They didn't know nothing about Bada Bada. Come on, man. Yeah, yeah. So we started off in the morning. Like whenever I walk in, we play some kind of music.

And I had to educate them about, we about it, about it. We about it, about it. P, let me ask you this. Yes. You built this empire on music, and you branched off to do other things. What was the mindset when you started this empire? Well, you know, I grew up in the projects, Calio projects out here, and I ain't had none. I live with my grandparents and she had 12 kids.

Me and my brother made 14. I just wanted to make it out the ghetto. I wanted to get my grandmother a house one day. And that just pushed me. It pushed me and it pushed me. And I said, whatever they could do, we could do it. And so ever since after then, I've just been building and grinding and hustling and went from selling no records to over 100 million records independently. But you were one of the first to have a distribution deal that was in your favor. You also was one of the first to have entrepreneurship that wanted to do things outside of music. How did you develop that mindset, though? I mean, I guess like anything else like this, man, I guess when you when you're hungry and you're poor, you can really do your body because you always got to have a why. My why was I ain't had nothing.

I got to make it up out of here. A lot of people was dying young. A lot of people didn't get opportunities that I was't had nothing. I got to make it up out of here. A lot of people was dying young. A lot of people didn't get opportunities that I was able to get. And I'm like, I'm going to make the best out of it. There's going to be no limit to my success. And that's what I call my company, No Limit. You know, B and I had an experience together. I mean, he's at the top of his game.

And you're talking about an athlete. You know, you're talking about two sports. But this man was multi, just understand with talent. So he came to Dallas to play. They had the trial for the Mavericks. And when I tell you he had it, he had it, right? So they called me over there to holler at Pete. Because Pete still had that hood in him.

What I mean by that is he, you know, Pete went to practice and I'm like, Pete, you can't go to practice deep. You can't do that, dog. Pete's like, man, I'm giving them buckets and I'm doing this, I'm doing that, man. What's going on? I say, dog, tell me about what happened. Man, you know, we was running wind sprints and I

was winning them. I said, you can't do that. And I was doing it. You can't do that. You know the stars that they have and you got to let them make it yeah because this is their team do your thing but you got to let them make you know the politics it's politics and everything y'all think about it right and that's what makes the trailblazers trailblazers we got to think outside the box. I've always thought outside the box when I was telling, you know, Deon when I was in Dallas, right? It was tough because I know I was putting the work in. I had it.

So I grew up with Steve Nash. So you know me, I'm already on him like, man, Steve, like, man, you need to chill out. But, you know, that's the way we was raised down here. It is like we was just raised tough. Like a lot of kids today don't have to go through what we had to go through. And at that time, New Orleans was the murder capital of the world. And it was like a privilege to be able to go outside and play basketball.

And so I always was just tough when I played. And then I was like one of the fastest ones on the team. I'm number one in all the drills. So I'm thinking I'm in. Right. But like Deion said, that don't matter. I mean, we got to give this man a round of applause for what you did in college football, my brother.

Because this is what I want to tell y'all, right? This man actually changed the whole game of college football because they never wanted to see us do what you was able to do, bro. And it's incredible because now when I walked into this man's locker room, I was like, man, hold up. I went, they got a ball, but they got all this stuff. I'm like, man, this is crazy. This man did really change the culture right there.

This was the hood for real. It was love, but it's like you see everybody having fun. And I think the difference is a lot of players want to play for you because they want that type of atmosphere. And I appreciate the difference is a lot of players want to play for you because they want that type of atmosphere. And I appreciate you for coming to support it. Yeah, man, you know, I got people like our sidelines in Boulder. You've been there, Shaq. It looks like the BET Awards. Everybody on the sidelines. Hey, Pete, listen, you've launched everything, bro, from music to food products, even a basketball league.

And you've been able to build generational wealth. What advice do you have to the young artists and young entrepreneurs looking to do some of the same things you've done, especially those right here from your hometown? Well, first, y'all put your trust and faith and go. That's the most important thing. And don't be afraid to put the work in because they say work without faith is dead. And so a lot of people think, oh, I'm going to just pray and God going. No, you got to really put the work in. You got to grind.

You got to go to work. And then God going to give you all those blessings. If you do right, you have integrity. Because one thing that I learned in this world, this game of life, you know, you have to have integrity because that's doing the right thing when nobody's looking. So most of us only want to do the right thing when somebody's looking. So when you do the right thing and nobody's looking, you're going to be all right. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain.

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