Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Cody Rhodes wins, South Carolina takes down Caitlin Clark, Coach Cal to Arkansas

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Cody Rhodes beating Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania, South Carolina finishing their undefeated season being Caitlin Clark & Iowa, and the breaking news that John Calipari is leaving Kentucky to become the coach at Arkansas. 0:00 Introduction04:40 Wrestlemania 40 reaction13:00 Lady Gamecocks win National Championship vs Iowa16:05 Dawn Staley thanks Caitlin Clark for her impact on Women’s basketball34:00 Breaking news - John Calipari leaving Kentucky for Arkansas50:40 Reports that Micah Parsons is “wearing thin” in Dallas59:30 Exec says Jerry Jones may be trying to sabotage Dak as new contract looms #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but I believe and what I've been assured is that we do have enough to fulfill all orders. So thank you very much for doing that. Ocho, let's get right into it and let's start with WrestleMania. Cody Rhodes, the American Nightmare. He finishes the story. He took down

the tribal chief Roman Reigns with his patented move, the crossroads. And he is now the universal, undisputed, heavyweight champion of the world in a match you had to see with a lot of interference. Seth Rollins stuck his nose into it. John Cena, the Undertaker.

And lo and behold, there was The Rock also. An unbelievable match. We had two championships change hands. We have two, not one, but two. A men's and a women's new universal champ. Let's start with the match tonight, Ocho. I know you watched it. Cody Rose, the new

universal, undisputed heavyweight champion of the Rose. He takes down the tribal chief, Roman Reigns, in a match you had to see. Yeah, listen. Wrestling, listen, wrestling for me, you know, it was, it's been a very, very long time since I've watched wrestling.

But being that we were going to talk about it tonight, it's my first time watching since I've watched as a kid. Obviously, when I watched Hulk Hogan, Jimmy Superfly, Snooker, Andre the Giant, you know, back in those days, the Dusty Rhodes, the original,

the original Dusty Rhodes. That's Cody, rest his soul, that's Cody Rhodes' father. You know, and the funny thing about it is I haven't watched it in so long, I didn't even realize until I watched Cody tonight and got a better understanding, but wait a minute, well, that brings everything full circle. Yes.

It made it that much better for me to be able to be back in front of a TV, watching wrestling again. And one thing about the wwe right now i don't want to say it wrong it's wwe correct yes yes one thing about them sometimes they've been known to to drop the ball on the way scripts are written or the way shows are set up but But tonight's WrestleMania was one for the ages. It was one for the ages and they didn't miss. They didn't miss a beat at all.

And it was dope. Roman Reigns, who had the title for what? Almost 1,000... I forgot. Over 1,300 days. Yeah, over 1,300 damn days. Now we have a new champion, man.

Congrats to Cody. And I'm excited. I'm excited to see what's next. Now you got me new champion, man. Congrats to Cody. And I'm excited. I'm excited to see what's next. Now you got me sucked back in the wrestling. Now I got to play catch up. I got to play catch up. This was, I think if I'm not mistaken, it might have been the first big event that the new chiefs in town, the new CO, Triple H, he takes over for Vince McMahon. We know what happened.

We don't need to get into that. And they bring The Rock this is the first time that Rock's put the trunks back on and actually wrestled in over eight years and so with Triple H's vision and with Rock, the great showman and the great businessman that he is I think WWE is in

great hands, but back to Cody Rhodes the American Nightmare, all the thing that he's ever wanted was to make to Cody Rhodes, the American nightmare. All the things that he's ever wanted was to make his dad proud. The American dream himself. Dusty Rhodes, the man with the bionic elbow. The figure for a leg lock. Hey, he's here to tell you George's own, Mariela George's own. Cody Rhodes

is at the top of the order in the WWE. A tremendous match. It was a bloodlines match because Roman Reigns and Rock won last night. So he got all the interferes. He had all the help that he needed. So they stacked the deck against Cody Rose and Cody Rose would not

be denied tonight. So he put him in his patented move, the crossroads. Not once, not twice, but three times. And it was over the roof, counted him out. And Cody Rose, the new universal heavyweight champion of the world. And I got an opportunity to witness it. three times and it was over the ref counted him out and Cody Rhodes the universe the new universal heavyweight champion

of the world and I got an opportunity to witness it you know what's funny do you know what is what's the name of Cody Rhodes finishing move

you know the name of it Crossroads the Crossroads I'm finna try I'm finna try that on real I'm finna try that hey I just I just got my TikTok going

so I think my first video on TikTok is going to be me trying to do the cross rolls on real, I'm going to see how that goes it was unbelievable like I said, I think the thing with Triple H and I in charge of the WWE they brought Rock back into the fold and you know Rock is the great

showman and you look at him, he hadn't been had the trunks on in a very, very long time. But Rock was made for this. He had an opportunity growing up to watch his father, a la Cody Rhodes. And he went to the family business and then he branches off and become what we know him to be today. The Rock, one of the greatest entertainers, not only in professional wrestling, but box office in Hollywood as well. Cody Rhodes didn't want to hand out. He said, I'm going to do it the hard way. And they fought. Every chance

he got close, he was never able to cross the finish line. But tonight he stands atop of them all. The American Nightmare, Cody Rose, is your new Universal Heavyweight Champion of the World. And it was a tremendous match. I'm

sure, I mean, box office, two-night event, over 144,000 people attended. It was so big they had it at Lincoln Financial Field, the link in Philadelphia. They had it in a football stadium. That's how big professional

wrestling is. It was unbelievable. Man, my favorite was when the lights went off, you already knew what it was. You heard that music coming up. I thought he was walking up, but when they cut the lights back on, there he stood. The Undertaker. Yeah.

Legend. Bad. And when he powerslammed Rock, get it? That was unbelievable. But the previous match on Saturday night, it was The Rock and Roman Reigns took on Cody Rhodes and Seth Rollins. It was epic. And because Rock and Cody Rhodes had won,

it was a bloodline match. And because he won, they got interference. So, you know, the deck was kind of stacked against Cody Rhodes, so to speak. But somehow he found a way to dig down. He wouldn't be denied tonight, and he won. Ocho, we also had an excellent women's match. Oh, my goodness.

Between Io, Sky, and Bayley. They're former partners in damage control. They were friends. Yeah. Hey, and you know what happens when one friend has something the other won't. Yeah. I got to get it. I got to have it. We're the other won't. Yeah. I got to get it.

I got to have it. We're going to set friendship aside, but I got to get it. And Bayley got the women's title back after beating former friend in fraction, Ayo Sky. What did you like about this match? Because Ayo Sky is very athletic.

I mean, she had to be a gymnast probably at some point in her career. Yeah, it was good. It was very exciting. Again, for me, the funny thing about it, a lot of people won't believe this, but for me, this was my first women's match to actually watch. It was my first women's match to actually watch. You could tell that A.L. Sky, I don't want to say her name the wrong way.

A.L. Sky. She's very athletic. You probably had the background, a gymnast background, and also a dance background as well. And you could tell because of her athletic ability in the ring. So it was exciting for me to watch. And kudos and congrats to her. Yes.

And was that Saturday night when we had the three black women? Jade Cargill. I don't have the names in front of me, but I think that was the first time that three black women had teamed. Bianca Belair and Naomi teamed up and they wrestled it was unbelievable congrats to those guys it was an unbelievable match but we have a new

women's champion and her name is Bailey she takes down Ayo Sky former damage control friends Ayo Sky and that's what happens Ocho when there's something on the line and we had to take that thing away from it. What else we got?

Oh, we mentioned Triple H. I thought he did an unbelievable job. He's kind of been working in the background for the longest time. I think, if I'm not mistaken, he's Jim McMahon's son, son-in-law. Right. And he's kind of been lurking in the background. He's kind of been prepping for this day to come. We knew this day was

going to come. It came probably a lot sooner than everybody anticipated. But I'm sure they had a plan in place that when Jim McMahon stepped aside, and probably he stepped aside a lot sooner than he wanted to, this was the natural progression. This was the picking order in which it would go.

And I think the best thing they did, they brought Rock back into the fold, made him a partner, gave him the name The Rock back. Rock has a great show, a great eye for talent. We had him on the show on first take, and he talked about he wanted to be even global. He want wrestling to be even bigger than what it is. And no better person to take it abroad than one Dwayne DJ Rock Johnson. So I'm excited for Rock's role. And he's going to continue this WWE reign.

And it was great to see him back in the ring with the Trunks. Congrats, Rock. Congrats, Triple H, WWE fans. They're the winners. There are no losers tonight. I understand that Roman Reigns is a little disappointed as is A.O. Scott, but the wrestling community is very pleased with what they

saw today. Ocho. Most definitely. Next segment, it's time for our segment to get started, and it's called a News Cap. News Cap. Don Staley and the Lady South Carolina Gamecocks have done it again. For the first time since 2016, the NCAA has an undefeated national champion, and it's the Lady Gamecocks of South Carolina. South Carolina capped off a perfect season, 38-0,

with an 87-75 win over the Iowa Hawkeyes, avenging last year's Final Four loss that ended an undefeated season. As has been the case all season, it was South Carolina's depth on full display. The Gamecocks had four players in double figures, led by a career high by freshman Tessa Johnson, who had 19 points. Star center Carmela Cardosa chipped in, who was the most outstanding player of the Final Four. She

had 15 points, 17 rebounds, and I think four blocks. Tiana, Tiana, Tiana? Tiana, pow, pow. Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. Chipped in with 14. Chloe Kidd had 11 points and 10 rebounds. Raven Johnson.

Raven Johnson. Raven Johnson. Raven Johnson. Last year, she was the young lady that Kaitlyn Clark, if you remember watching the game last year, she was like, I ain't even worried about you. She said, I was on a revenge tour. She was a primary, after the first quarter, she was the primary defender on Kaitlyn Clark.

And they wore down. They made it very difficult. She had 18 points in the first quarter. She finished up with 28 points on 10 of 28 shooting. 13 of those points came in the two minute span in the first quarter. I would jump back to a heart, a hot start leading the game. But I felt very,

very good because I knew the size of the lady game. Yeah. No, did it. Pete Paul's down. You'll see it. I just, I just, cause you know, very, very good because I knew the size of the Lady Game. Rock, yeah. No, did it. Pete Paul's now. I'm just saying. I just knew that. I just, because, you know, I know they just waiting.

They waiting to get us, Ocho. They waiting on you. We knew the, I'm talking about in basketball terms. Don't y'all be going to this. So I'm going to go ahead. I'm just the one time I'm saying it for Ocho and I on nightcap. No, did it. We knew the Lady Game cars were too big for the Iowa Hawkeyes. That size, six

foot seven Cardoso. You had Watkins who got in foul trouble who had 20 rebounds against NC State on Friday night. Kitts is another big rebounder. So we knew the likelihood because if they miss a shot, they was getting second chance after

second chance after second chance. If I'm not mistaken, I think they out-rebounded them 50 to 29. So that's a plus 21, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. And the depth. Iowa plays basically five girls. Yeah.

Kaitlyn Clark wore down. I don't care what anybody tell you. She wore down. But you know why, Ocho? Because she's responsible for damn near all the scoring and facilitating everybody else because there's no one else that can really take you off the dribble so if she doesn't create something nobody does anything right and so Raven Johnson hounded her for the entire for the entire second to third quarter and so Don Staley

completes her second national championships in three years. And she gave Kaitlyn Clark help for popularizing the women's game. And let's take a look at what Coach Staley had to say. I have to congratulate Iowa on an incredible season. Awesome. Awesome. And I want to personally thank Kaitlyn Clark for lifting up our sport. She carried a heavy load for our sport. And it just is not going to stop here on the collegiate tour. But when she is the number one pick in the WNBA draft,

she's going to lift that league up as well. So, Kaitlyn Clark, if you're out there, you are one of the goats of our games, and we appreciate you. That's dope. That's live. Thank you. That's live. That's live. Ocho, you need to get some light, man.

I can barely see you. I don't see nothing but teeth. You calling me black? Nah, I'm calling you midnight. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me turn my light up a little bit. Let me turn my light up a little bit. Yo, I don't even think you got your light on.

It's on? Hell, the eclipse was yesterday. Or Friday. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Can you see me now? Yeah, that's better. Yeah, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. You know, I had my lights dim.

I had my lights dim because, you know, I had a little romantic dinner here earlier. But anyway, listen, this is what we need more of. This is what we need more of for Ms. Dawn Staley to come out and pay kudos and pay tribute to what Caitlin Clark has done for the game of basketball, especially women's basketball is phenomenal. It's phenomenal. We need more people to do things like that. As far as giving people their praises, giving people their flowers while they can smell them. Kaitlyn Clark, again, had a heavy load, and she is responsible for a lot of us that have really never watched women's basketball before, and I'm one of them.

I'm just going to be honest with you. I've never watched women's basketball, but because of Kaitlyn Clark, because of Angel Reese, obviously Juju Watkins as well, Tessa Thompson and some of those girls at South Carolina. It had me tuned in the entirety of the season, you know, trying to see what was going on week to week. And it was exciting. It was exciting. Tonight's game was very exciting. And I was a little spooked at the beginning because I got off to a fast start.

Yeah, I got off to a fast start like, oh, oh, no. I mean, what's going to happen? Some adjustments are going to have to be made. But at one point, once South Carolina was able to come back and not tested Thompson, Miss Johnson, once Miss Johnson got on Kaitlyn Clark in that second half of the game and contested almost every shot and made things a little bit more difficult for her and not as easy, I say, oh, man. It's going to be a long night. Think about the more difficult for her. Yeah. And not as easy. I say, oh, man, it's going to be a long night. Think about the way she defended her.

Yes. I'm going to make her go right. Yeah. If you get all the way to the basket, I got six foot seven there to protect me. I got six foot four there to protect me. I got kids. So I'm going to keep you going to your right.

I'm going to stay on your upfield shoulder. I'm not going to let you spin back because I know you want to go left and get that three ball off. Right. And so even if you make difficult shots, I'm going going to let you spin back because I know you want to go left and get that three ball off. Right. And so even if you make difficult shots, I'm going to make you exert a lot of energy. You watched it as the game kept getting, she wore down and wore down because Raven Johnson picked the pockets two or three times.

Something we don't normally see. Uncharacteristic turnover. We saw the frustration level start to rise. But that was because Carolinaolina they had a defensive game playing we're gonna make okay we understood that they played really good their supporting role played really well against yukon right i'm gonna see if you can do it again i'm gonna see if you can do it again i don't believe you can you know the funny thing the first the beginning of the game the first seven eight shots if i'm not mistaken none of them was caitlin clark so

supporting cast was playing well from the beginning, but they weren't able to sustain that throughout the entirety of the game. I think for the Hawkeyes to have won the game, Katelyn Clark would have had to have taken that game over and scored a damn near 60. She would have had to score 60. She would need to get an efficient 40-plus.

Yeah. An efficient. You know, when you go think about it, Ocho, she got six of those 10 points she got over the last three quarters from the free throw line. So that means she only got four points on shots. So five of 20 over the last three quarters. So that

lets you know. And it takes a lot. They did a great thing. they took her off the ball because a raven johnson is picking her up 94 feet hounding her every chance she's good okay we're gonna let somebody else bring up the ball we look at it uh they had three players play at least 40 minutes they have another player play 35 minutes and they played one player played 27 minutes so they got two they got uh uh their bench players gave them no points and played a combined total of 18 minutes right where watkins gave him 14 minutes gave him three points and five and five rebounds fagan gave him five gave him 18 uh minutes off the bench gave him six them six points. We got Johnson.

Gave them 19 points. Fulwiley gave them nine points, 18 minutes. You see the difference? Yeah. Now, mind you, most of those girls from Iowa play young. Excuse me. I'm going to say girls. I don't want anybody shouting. I call them girls. The young ladies played a large heavier minutes the other night.

Right. That's a quick turnaround. Yeah. 40 minutes. You play 40 minutes. I don't give a damn if you're 18. I don't care if you're 20, 21. That's a lot of minutes. Right. And you're playing it. That's action-packed. So the mind has to stay focused because a lot of times you get tired mentally way before you get tired physically.

It's the mental that convinces that you are tired physically. And so I thought Don Staley stuck the gun. I'll allow my players to play. A lot of coaches, once that thing got six, nothing, eight, nothing,

they'd have called timeout. Don said, hell, y'all got us in this. No, no, no. Listen, let me tell you. Wait a minute now. You can attest to this and everybody in the chat can attest to this.

Don Staley don't call no timeouts. Remember how your grandma, your mama used to look at you in church and she'd get that look from the choir, from the choir stand and you misbehaving in church and she'd give you that look. And when you get that look, you know, well, you better tighten up. Don Staley ain't calling no timeouts. Look at Don Staley's facial expression to her team from the sideline, she gonna look at you. That is, that's the timeout right there. If you pay attention,

Dawn Staley give everybody that look and you already know what it mean. All right, now, tighten up. I ain't calling, I ain't calling no timeout. It's Dawn Staley give everybody a look and they get, they get it right together. Did you hear what she said? She said, we had scouted them. We was running their sets on Tuesday before we got here.

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best for them to stay in that zone, and unless you hit shots outside, they're going to punish you. Well, the thing is, even when they miss, because you got Cardoso, because you got Watkins, you got inside 6'4", 6'5", 6'7". You got height

length. 51, I rebounded was 51 to 29. Yeah. South Carolina had 18 offensive rebounds. 18 offensive rebounds. Mind you, Iowa only had 29 rebounds total. Listen, along with Camila Cardoza, she obviously had 15 points.

She had 17 rebounds by herself. 17. 17. By herself. 17 By herself Yeah Listen Listen Kudos to Dawn

For one Kudos to the Iowa Hawkeyes Kudos to all their players Especially Caitlin Clark But what Dawn Staley Has been able to do At South Carolina In such a short amount of time

She deserves it Yeah She deserves For one They went 38 What 38 no they went 38-0. What, 38-0? They went 38-0 this year. The 10th team to go undefeated

throughout the entire season. 74-1. 74-1 the past two seasons. And she's only been there three years and only lost three games. Yeah. No, she's been there longer. The last three years,

their record is 109-3 with two natural champions. My bad, my bad. But they need to do. They need to do right. They got to do right by Miss Daly now. Well, we need been there longer. The last three years, their record is 109-3 with two natural champions. My bad, my bad. But they need to do. They need to do right. They got to do right by Miss Staley now. Well, we need to back that. They just gave her.

She's making, she's the second highest paid behind Kim Mulkey. Now, yeah, we need to redo that, baby. You just did it. We need to redo it again. We need to redo it again.

We need to back, we need to back, we need to back the bring, back the bring truck up one more time. Just truck up one more time. Just one more time. Because you know what's going to happen now is they're going to go back again. Oh, yeah.

That's a young team. Because what do you think all the young ladies are going to want to go play now that are coming out? Coming out of high school. Everybody going right to South Carolina. You do realize her starting five from last year went to the WNBA. Yeah, they gone. The only person that's leaving now is Cardosa. All those girls are freshmen.

I was right back. Young ladies are freshmen and sophomores. So they're going to be back to contend with it again. Paul Wiley was SEC tournament MVP. Cardosa was the most outstanding player in the Final Four. They got these young guards coming back. She's a defensive-minded head coach. She says, offensive take care of itself if we get after people.

But you know what? When she put Fulwally in, the pace changed. Yeah. Because now she can take it, go it go man if she'd hit that move she hit a move Ocho went behind her back behind her back up on the other side

if you'd hit that without a lift I'd have threw my team out the window hey she the real deal she been doing it all season she been doing it all season she has been

that was a really good game Ocho a lot has been discussed about Kaitlyn Clark's gold case excuse me she's a D1 women's all-time leading scorer in history. Most three-pointers in women's history. Big 10 career points leader.

Big 10 assist leader. Most points in the NCAA tournament. Beat Shemika Holt's throw by one, 484.79. The John R. Wooden Award. Two-time AP Player of the Year. Two-time Naismith Player of the Year. Three-time unanimous first-team All-American. Three-time Don Staley Award winner. Three-time Big 10 Player of the year, two time Naismith player of the year, three time Unanimous First Team All-American, three time Don Staley Award, three time

Big Ten player of the year. She is one of the GOATs, but she can't be in front of Stewart. In my estimation, the greatest women's college basketball player is Breonna Stewart. Breonna Stewart? Okay. Four titles, four outstanding MVPs, three time player of the year,

three time conference player, four time conference player. three-time player of the year, four-time conference player. Until somebody do that, don't talk to me. Right. Okay, so are you saying she's one of the GOATs, but she can't be the GOAT because she wasn't able to solidify it by winning a championship? Remember, we had this discussion. You can be great.

Right. Can't be the greatest. Not empty handed. Not empty handed. I think there are a lot of people that will argue the fact with that because there are some great ones that have, let's say NFL for that matter. There are some great

players. There are some great players that have played this game for many years. You understand how difficult it is to win a Lombardi trophy. But the resume speaks for itself at times. Sometimes how difficult it is to win a lombardi trophy but the resume speaks for itself at times sometimes you're not able to win a to win a lombardi but you are great within your own right based on the accolades and what you were able to do throughout the entirety of your career between those lines right does that take away from you being the greatest if you were never able to win a trophy you still be i still be, I believe you can be great.

You can be great. I think the thing is when you start looking at the greatest, I think what you put up there, the reason why we say LT, LT with all his stats, without Super Bowl rings, we wouldn't say he's the greatest defender. But not only, but what gives him the bump, LT was a league MVP, Award that only quarterbacks win. Running backs win.

LT won that award from the other side. He and Alan Page, since the merger, are the only two to have ever done that. I don't believe in my lifetime we'll see it again, Ocho. I don't believe we'll see a defender, especially with the rules, the way they're set up for the offensive guys. You're going to have too many quarterbacks to throw for 4,800, 5,000 plus, 45, 50

touchdowns. So it's going to be really, really hard for a defender to win that award. Caitlin Clark is a great, great player, but how do we put it in front of a Breonna Stewart, who has four championships, who has three, has basically a lot of the same awards Stewart, who has four championships, who has three, has basically a lot

of the same awards, but four titles and four most outstanding players. Or Shemekal Toholsbaugh, or Cheryl Miller, or Diana Taurasi. That's unfair. Because they tell me

at the end of the day, it's all about winning. Yeah. And what they will do, I think what she's been able to do is she's been able to give the game of women's basketball a different type of visibility, a different type of exposure. I'm not sure how to explain it, but she was able to do that.

Maybe the times are different now. Maybe times are different now as far as social media is concerned, as opposed to it might have been there when Breonna Stewart was playing and some of those other young ladies were playing, but now it is heightened to the gods when it came to Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese and those young ladies that are playing in today's game. Again, it had people watching the game of women's basketball they have never watched before, and they were everywhere. They were everywhere. I can't even, and I apologize, and I apologize to anybody in the chat that watches college basketball. I can't name any of the men's college teams that are playing, let alone name any of the players that are playing in the goddamn tournament, but I can tell you about 10 women that are playing.

Yeah. Like, that's the impact that they've had on the game so far. But I think for her and what she was able to do for the game is more than just not winning championships. Her impact is much larger. She brought it visibility. I think with her and Juju Watkins, I think because the talent is so spread out with herself,

Kaitlyn Clark et al., with Juju at USC, Cardosa, and the Lady Gamecocks, and you got Paige Beckers. And so you got the game is so spread out. I've been watching college basketball since they had the first one, the Lady Teamsters, a lot of tech. When they beat Cheney State, they won back to back. And then they ended up getting beat by Cheryl Miller.

And they won back to back. And then the first undefeated team was Texas, led by the great Clarissa Davis. And so I've kind of followed basketball, or women's college basketball, through the time I remember when UConn finally burst on the scene in the 90s, with

Rebecca Lobo, Tennessee dominated. Tennessee won three in a row, was going for an unprecedented third, and they got knocked off, if I'm not mistaken, by Duke. I think that was 99. Shemekah's whole claw and Tamika Ketchum, that team.

And so I've kind of, you know, followed the women's game, and I know a lot of the great players. And so, yes, I think Kaitlyn Clark is fine, but it's just hard for me to put her in front of someone. Because I said, like Cheryl Swoops, go back and think Kaitlyn Clark is fine, but it's just hard for me to put her in front of someone. Because I said, like Cheryl Swoops, go back and look at Cheryl Swoops

and I think that was what, was that what? 90, like 93, 94? When she put Texas Tech on her back. Right. Drop 47 in the National Championship game. 16 of 22 against Ohio State, I think think when they had Katie Smith.

Watch. That's what Caitlyn would have had to do. Score points like that, but do it efficiently. Right. But I thought Caitlyn Clark was the best player on the court. South Carolina had the better team. And they wore her down. They made her work extremely hard.

They fought hard. Raven Johnson and Bre work extremely hard they fought hard raven johnson and breeden they fought hard over screens they didn't take the easy way out well i don't want this contact let me go up on the screen right no the game plan force her right big girls when she you still get close step up be ready to ate be ready to get them hands up yeah they understood this assignment they carried out the assignment. And that's the most difficult thing because, you know, it don't take great players a half inch. That's all they need.

That's it. A half inch. And it's because he can score like that. But give South Carolina tremendous credit. They did a great job. You can't rewrite history. You can't make up for what you lost last year because you was there, and Kaitlin Clark had an unbelievable job.

She scored 41. But they came out with a mission today. They were on a mission today, and they win. So congratulations to Dawn Staley and the Lady Gamecocks of South Carolina. They win the Women's College of Nashville Championship 87-75 over Iowa Hawkeyes. Ocho, we got some breaking news. After 15 years at Kentucky, John Calipari

is finalizing a five-year deal to become the next head coach of Arkansas. Calipari's longtime friends with John Tyson. You know him. You like chicken, right? He's the Tyson food empire, and he's a huge razorback booster now mind you john calipari is making 8.5 million dollars a year so in order to get him to

leave a blue blood right and go there what must they be paying him what do you think but if i'm kentucky but if i'm kentucky why am i upset about him going what does he want what does he want think about all the number one overall draft picks. Derrick Rose was the number one overall draft pick at Memphis State. They didn't win the national championship. Anthony Davis, they won with him. John Wall, he had John Wall and Boogie Cousins. Yeah. Ain't win nothing.

He had Carl Anthony Towns. He had Shea Gilgis Alexander. He had Devin. Oh, yeah. Yes. He had all those guys. Number one overall draft pick. Derrick Rose, Carl Anthony Towns,

John Wall, Anthony Davis. And you know what he got to show for it? One national championship. I ain't going to mention Devin Booker. I ain't going to mention Shea Gilgis. I'm not going to mention all those other guys. Probably 15 number one, not number one overall, but 15 first round picks.

Oh, Jamal Murray. He's had 35 first-round draft picks. Tyler Hero. And he got one title. He done had some gangsters over there, boy. He done had some gangsters. How about I do some. I'm going to name some of the names.

Anthony Davis. Devin Bookers. Shea Gilgis. Tyrese Maxey. Malik Monk. John Randall. julius randall john wall bam out of bayo tyler hero jamal murray eric bledsoe pj washington demarcus cousin carl anthony towns emmanuel quickly wait he got one title all in window. 35 first round draft picks. He got

one title. Don't give me Hey, and I think coach, I've met him on several occasions. I think he's a great individual. Right. But he's underachieved based on the talent that he's had. So, I mean, are these, I'm trying to think, obviously, when

these players were here, did they have the supporting cast? A lot of them played. John Wall and Carl Anthony Towns, John Wall and Boogie Cousins was on the same team. Damn. That means the other team that they had to play, the team that the year that Boogie was there, the year that John Wall was there, then who in the hell won that

year that was that goddamn great? I remember Carl Anthony Childs, they lost to Wisconsin. Wisconsin? Wisconsin? That's when what's the guy's name? Oh, man.

Is it somebody in the NBA right now? Yeah, Frank. He in the NBA right now yeah Frank he in the NBA but he play about as much as me and you play in the NBA he get them count of minutes me and you get Frank the Tank was the team at Wisconsin that much better than the team at Kentucky not what happens is Ocho

those teams realize if we get this young team in a situation because they used to beat everybody because there's so much talent in it see I get you in a situation you haven't been in that's why you see underdogs you see underdogs win what do they do they get the team

that's supposed to be superior to them get them late into the ball game you look up like oh my goodness we got a fight in our hands it's too late you're in a fight boom so now we get them in the deep water

see early in the game you got all your strength see I get you late in the ball game now I can drag you out to the deep and drown you but if you do have all that talent, if you have a John Wall, if you have a Carl Anthony Towns, I'm thinking about them on an NBA level and understanding how good they are

in the NBA. Well, hell, in college, you ain't that far off than what you look like in the NBA. I'm thinking they should run away with the goddamn game, especially when you're taking into account the other three players that's on the court the hard part is that all of these guys

all these guys was five stars you can't give him a whole bunch of shots and not give me five I was a five star too guess what I was Mr. Basketball in Georgia I was Mr. Basketball in California I was Mr. Basketball in Florida I was Mr. Basketball I was Mr. Basketball whatever state I was in guess what I was Mr. basketball in Florida. I was Mr. basketball. I was Mr. basketball, whatever

state I was in, guess what? I was Mr. basketball too. See, now when you say something like that, the first thing I think of, well, hell, if you got five people that were Mr. basketball in their respective states in high school, then it should make it that much easier in college, regardless of who you playing.

But see, when I was Mr. basketball in California or in Florida, guess who got the bulk of the shots, Ocho? You can't get 25 shots, 25 shots, 25 shots, 25 shots, 25 shots, can you? But listen, if everybody is Mr. Basketball, wherever they from, right? That means they're already efficient. So if you got five Mr. Basketballs on the court, everybody has to be efficient. So it's not,

it's not making any sense to me. If all of you are good. Could you be efficient with three catches? It depends on the route. Don't throw me, don't throw me three shallows. And I got three for 20.

They're going to throw you one dig or out and a bang eight. Okay. I see got three for 20. They're going to throw you one dig or out and a bang eight. Okay. I see where you're going. You see the thing is, Ocho, it's hard when a guy used to get as many shots as he wants. And now, look at Michael Jordan.

Did you ever think Michael... Dean Smith is the only guy ever to hold Michael Jordan under 20 points a game. College coaches don't build systems around players. College coaches expect players to come in and run their system. Their system, okay. And when you

entrench, that's what it is. So, he's leaving. Calipari produced 35 first-round draft picks since his arrival in Kentucky. One national championship,

one runner-up, four Final Fours. Look at what Jay Wright. Jay Wright won national championship with Jalen Brunson, and we see what Jalen Brunson is doing. Josh Hart, Dante DiVincenzo. Is any of those guys, Devin Booker, Shea Gilgis, Tyrese Maxey, Julius Rambler, John Wall, Boogie Cousins, Carl Anthony Towns?

No. Nah. Nah, that's crazy. So if he's leaving and he's making 8.5 a year, he's getting at least 10 to 12. Who's the highest paid college coach right now, you think? Gee, probably would have been him. Because all Baby Bill self.

Hey, what's the It was Cal. What's the coach that used to be at St. John that looked like he was in the movie Goodfellas? Oh, Coach Karnaseka? No, no, no, no, no. He was at St. John. Oh, Rick Pitino? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where is he at?

He's still at St. John's. Bill Self. Bill Self is the highest player in Kansas. He probably will make it 8.8, 9. Okay, okay. 9.6. So he at bare minimum, he leapfrogged that. Okay.

But Coach Cal felt the pressure. You keep going out in first, second rounds, and you get all these, you got all these first-round picks. It's not a good look. Yeah. And I talked about this. We had this with Coach Greenberg. I said, Coach, he's unachieving.

Yeah. Any way you slice it up about guys staying, freshmen, and they're not going to be NBA players, he's unachieving. By no stretch of the imagination can you look at somebody. If Alabama and Georgia and Clemson had all those first-round picks going to the NFL and they only had one title, people would say Nick Saban, Dabo Sweeney, and Kirby Smart underachieved. I got you. I got you.

I got you. You're right. You're right. I like it. Bill Self makes $9.6 million. Coach Cavill's making $8.5 million. Coach Izzo, about $6.2 million. Bruce Pearl, $5.7 million.

Rick Barnes, $5.7 million. So, with that being said, for him, come on now. The upper league. Arkansas was a nice one when Coach Nolan Richardson had 40 minutes of hail. That ain't Kentucky. It's the same conference, but they're not a blue blood. Yeah. They're not.

I mean, I'm sure the recruits, I mean, recruiting players are obviously going to want to follow Mr. Calipari there. Yes. He's going to look. A lot of people didn't like to recruit those one and dones because it says messes up because you recruiting guys and they're going to be gone after one year. Right. But you see what Coach K did. He started recruiting one and dones. Can't beat them, one year. Right. But you see what Coach K did. He started recruiting one and dones. Can't beat them, join them.

Right. The greatest key to survive is adaptability. Right. Stop talking about the NILs. It's here to stay. Yeah. Go to your boosters

and say we need $25 to $30 million to get the players that we need to get. Right. Either coming out of high school or in the transfer portal. Stop complaining. It is what it is.

It's here now. I like that. We see a lot of coaches scurrying away, Ocho, because now you don't have the advantage. Yeah. Man, you go look at Florida Park a lot. Go look at all them Dodge cars. All you see is challenges.

Charges. Charges. You see what's in there? Yeah. Now, how you got 50 guys and they are like the exact same type of car? Everybody.

Everybody. I like that quote. Nobody want no Chevrolet. Nobody want no Ford. Everybody want a Dodge. Yeah. I like that quote you just said, now.

What's that? The greatest key to survival. Yeah, say it again? The greatest key to survival. Yeah, say it again. The greatest key to survival is adaptability. Yeah, I got to use that. You got to be able. The greatest key to survival is adaptability. I like that. That's a good one now.

It's here. NIL isn't going anywhere. The transfer portal isn't going anywhere. Yes, guys want to know how much time that I'm playing and how much money can I make. Just like that. Straight business. Strictly business.

All I want is my coach. I don't care if my coach was two months older than me. He could have been two days older than me. How you going to help me get better? And when I come to you with a question, I need you to give me an answer. Don't tell me you're gonna get back to me.

I need you to know. Because hell, if I got, if you got to get back to me, I might as well go and ask somebody else. I might as well figure it out on my own. Right. I come to you. Have answers.

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That five-year deal, I guarantee you, is going to be probably $60 million. You got to blow it by the water, Ocho. Why would I leave Kentucky at $8.5 million to go to Arkansas? And you think Kentucky didn't have a chance to actually match what Arkansas was offering? He knows. He knows the pressure. That's a pressure cooker.

Right. When you get those type of guys, when you Alabama and you get those five stars, when you're Georgia and you get those five stars year after year, hell, they're trying to get Coach Day out of Ohio State. Bro, look at all this talent you got and you ain't won no title. Yeah. Nah, bro. Nah,

when you keep getting those guys, you get Joey Bosa, you get Nick Bosa, and you got Chase Young, and you got CJ Stroud, and you got all these receivers, Jackson Smith, and you got Marvin Harrison Jr., and you got Chase Young, and you got a C.J. Stroud, and you got all these receivers, Jackson Smith, and you got Marvin Harrison Jr., and you got this one, and you got that one. You need to show me something.

Yeah. They say they almost get that. You had Justin Fields, and I ain't got nothing? Yeah, they almost get that on that. Almost? Almost, almost. Almost. Almost. Nah, uh-uh. I can't do no one on that. Almost? Almost. Almost. Almost. Nah.

I can't do no with no almost. Hey, because there's going to come a time, the man, you're going to stand before the man, and the man's going to say, you almost got the helmet. Is that what you're trying to hear? You. Oh. No. Don't tell me that.

Let me get a redo. You got to do. no don't tell me that let me get a redo you gotta do you know it's it's it's it's sports it's very simple once you get to a certain level now if you want to play say hey hey it's a learning experience but that's for kids right right right that's for kids you get to college you get to the nfl right it's about winning because you get paid a king's ransom to win not to try hard no that's what kid that's for five and six year old five to ten year old right so baby you tried your best you tried hard that's all you can no no no no no but once you get to that next level it ain't it ain't no try hard you don't get paid millions to try hard you get paid millions

to do to win yeah right so don't let anybody tell you oh oh they gave no no no no no great effort

not for kids right you start making money you gotta keep in mind now we done played at the highest level for a very long time. You also understand how difficult it is to win.

How difficult it is to put together a team that can function and be efficient year in and year out. It takes time to build a team. Trying to keep a team around or keep a unit together that has the chemistry to make it easier to win. But one, it's hard getting a goddamn quarterback. You got to get your quarterback in place first. That's the damn hard part. Because until you get that situation fixed, you can't

work on nothing else. No. That's the first and foremost. You have it. And when you have Justin Fields and you have No, that's the first and foremost. You have it. And when you have Justin Fields and you have C.J. Stroud and you have what you have, and look at all those receivers that they had. Yeah.

It's hard to say they didn't underachieve. You're right. You're right. When you put it like that, you're right. Look at what they had, Ocho. Look at that. Look at that. I mean, look at all those D linemen.

Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, and Chase Young, all won Defensive Rookie of the Year. Mm-hmm. Look at those receivers that they had. Look at the running back, that offensive line. That's all I got? Hold on. Didn't Denzel Ward didn't

all those running all those DBs yeah didn't have some boys come out of that now top draft picks I ain't talking about no I ain't talking about no

bottom of the draft probably underachieved so Coach Cal is moving on is moving on I is moving on. I believe that deal is going to be somewhere around $60 million, $55 to $60 million.

I don't see him moving. Like you said, I don't see him moving for, oh, a five-year deal for $50 million. Nah. For me to uproot my family. It got to make sense. It got to make sense. It gotta make sense. Man, that's crazy.

And even to a dummy, dollars make sense. C-E-N-T-S or S-E-N-S-E. If it make dollars, it make sense. Yeah, most definitely. And the more dollars it make, hey, Ocho, you know they say, money talk,

but cash screams. Ah! You guys see him screaming, Ocho. I'm just saying. Especially the right amount. Huh? Especially the right amount. Think about what's

a lot going on. What people would do for money but ain't the root all lever it's the pursuit of it yeah yeah by any means according to reports michael parsons has worn thin within the Cowboys organization. Shan Sharif of 105 to 3, the fan reported, I've heard from way too many people this offseason. I'm talking about at least four different people that have told me that Michael has worn thin there. I don't know how much of it is true, how much it's actually hurt his reputation.

I think the latter. I don't know whether this is behavior or some type of typical superstar. I don't know how damaging it is but all I do know, I've heard far too many people that if Michael Parsons was out there there would be a decent amount of people inside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco smiling a breath of sigh

relief. That's a lie. A damn sure is. That's a lie. Why do they it's not even... They aren't even in their off-season program. They're not even in their off-season program.

So why somebody even make up something like this in general? For what? Try to hurt his bargaining power? No, no, no. Because think about it. You got two superstars that's up.

You got... Now, here's the thing. Think about it. Trayvon Diggs took $3 to $4 million of the market value to state. Yeah. I don't believe you're going to be able to get CD for $3 to $4 million.

And I know damn well you ain't going to get Micah. No. Now, Micah might be willing to cut you a deal the second time around, but the first deal is going to secure three generations.

Yes, sir. And you say, well, his bargaining power, his bargaining power is what it is. When you turn on the film, the stats are what it is. Who he is and what he is as a player, it's already set in stone. You can't change that. Whether you don't like the way he is personally

or whatever people are saying, oh, he's wearing thin. Fuck wearing thin. I know what the fuck he did. I know what he does. You didn't release that. My bad, my bad, my bad. God damn it.

I ain't never heard. Think about it, Ocho. You didn't hear nothing in the first year. You didn't hear nothing in the second year. You didn't hear a thing in the third year. Oh, now we're sorry. Now he's trying for the man to look for an extension. Now we got problems.

Now we have problems. Now he's wearing thin. No, he's not. I know a guy. Reminds me of a guy. Who's that? Shannon Sharp played 14 years in the NFL, 10 years at CBS. You never heard one thing about Shannon Sharp being difficult to work with. Right.

Didn't hear anything the first six and a half years. Now Shannon Sharp's on his way out the door. Shannon's difficult to work with. You know how they do. It's always the game. It's always the game. Go ask them same people. Nothing.

I don't even go there. It is what it is. But thank you very much. Thank y'all. But I know how the game plays. Yeah. Yeah. But why are they playing it now

at this time? It makes no sense. You're going to have to pay him either way. Because if you don't want to pay him, got, you're going to have to pay him either way. Because if you don't want to pay him, now what you're going to do is, what you don't want to do is you don't want to piss him off.

You don't want to piss him off. Because now you got this coming out, coming out of it. And it's coming from inside those doors. Of course. It's coming from inside

those doors. Trayvon Diggs just cheated. That's that weird shit. Shaking my, that's that weird is shaking my head. Appreciate you listening. Now you. Now you cursing. Man, I'm just...

You know what I'm saying? I just put it up on the thing and I just read it verbatim because you know I usually say ish. But that's what happens when they try to damage someone's reputation. Now, like I said,

put that out there. Because he heard the thing, Ocho, no matter what's said, somebody is going to believe it's true, no matter what. Right. Right. You're right. But I know one thing. I don't care what you say about him.

I don't care what you say about him. I know what I get When that goddamn whistle blow On that field I know what you get on First, second, and third down I know what you get I know what he can do The numbers

And the film And the eye in the sky Don't lie It never has It never will But if the players Here's the thing, Ocho Teams

Ask players to do things they never do themselves. Yes, sir. Which is give discounts. Tell me the time. Go ask Eric Shanks at Fox. Go ask Sean McManus. He's getting ready to retire, but David Burstyn is taking over. Go ask Jimmy Pataro or Bob Iger.

Who's that? What's the other one? NBC. I don't know who's at NBC. Go ask them. Did the NFL, when them contracts came up, did they give them a discount?

Absolutely not. Now, here's the thing. This is what we know. The NFL had two years left on their original existing contract.

They, the players signed the agreement. They gave them 10 years of labor peace and the NFL came back to the network. Say, we got 10 years of labor peace. We want to redo the deals. Now, I ain't telling you what somebody told me.

I'm telling you what I know. I know. Look at what Netflix, two and a half billion. Yeah. Amazon, a billion dollars. Paid over $ million dollars just to have a Black Friday game. Now you got a Christmas Day game on Wednesday, a game on Thursday, a game on Friday, a game on Saturday and a game on Sunday. Stop playing with me.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just not checkers. And that's the game they plan. Yes. That is that. That is the game they playing. It's always been a business. When you understand the business, then you're able to separate the two. When you understand it's a business, then you're able to separate the two.

No matter what owner is smiling in your face, no matter what your owner is telling you, understand at the end of the day, y'all are not friends. It is a business. Yes! And conduct yourself as such. And not go out there and play with a smile on your face. And remember, it's still a kid's game, but at the end of the day, it is a business. The NBA

owners and the players look at themselves as partners. The NFL partners is NBC, it's Fox, it's ESPN, it's Netflix, it's Amazon. It's not you players. That is the difference. So our partners,

when they talk about partners, look how the owners talk. Look what they say. Look how Adam Silver, when he says, our partners, the players. NFL talk, Roger Goodell says, our partners, Fox, ESPN,

CBS, NBC, Netflix, Amazon. Just saying. Gil, who just donated $200, says, drunk ass, is drunk. This ain't nothing but old teeth.

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a nice little gift, man. Came in the mail for me, man. Remember the other night I wore the colorful jersey? Yeah. George Campos, man. He signed a jersey for me, man. George Campos. I thought that said compost jersey for me, man. George Campos.

I thought that said compost. No. It's a legendary goalkeeper from my beautiful, beautiful Mexico. A friend of mine, Miguel. Miguel Lozano. I know you're watching, Miguel. I appreciate you. Thank you for subscribing.

George Campos, when you see this, man, thank you for the jersey. I'm'm gonna frame this up and hang it up But um, what I'm gonna tell you you remember when I got in trouble I got fine $30,000 and the boy and we get Miguel Who's responsible for getting the Jersey to me and getting assigned by George? He sent me a sombrero. Remember when I scored one time? Yeah, you know, yes, I'm bro. I'm one time? Yeah, you had a sombrero, yeah. I put on that big sombrero and poncho. Miguel is responsible for that damn poncho and sombrero.

He sent me all the way from Mexico, so it was a real one. As a matter of fact, he's responsible and he owed me that 30 grand back for that. So, Miguel, when you see this, I need that 30,000, please. I appreciate the jersey, man. George Campos, if you see this, I love you and I appreciate you. Hey, Michael, keep doing what you're doing. Don't stop, man. George Campos, if you see this, I love you, and I appreciate you.

Hey, Michael, keep doing what you're doing. Don't stop, Michael. Because guess what? You know, the Cowboys, they might be the biggest brand, but they ain't the only team to play money. Hey, that was a good one right there. That was a good one. Check this out, Ocho. An anonymous exec says Jerry Jones could be sabotaging Dak Prescott.

Mike Sandoz of the Athletics spoke to numerous anonymous NFL executives about free agency moves for all 32 teams this offseason. And for the Cowboys, one exec insinuated that Jerry Jones was sabotaging the roster to depress Dak Prescott's price. The exec said, if the guy wants $60 million a year, you know what we're going to do instead. We're going to have an average team, and you're going to play worse, and then you'll get a better price.

What did I tell you, Ocho? Remember what he said? Jerry said at first he said he was going all in. Then he said he needed to do more with left. Now, did he say if it's a lie? He told it. Yeah. Listen, you got to be able to read between the lines.

Yeah, you got to be able to read between the lines. Cowboys fans, this is the person that is running the show. This is the person that says the team that he's been a part of are similar to that of the Cowboys when they won Super Bowls. He'd rather play the game than give Dak, the team, and the fans what they deserve. A team that is adequate enough to compete year in and year out. No, you know what? I know I got to pay Dak. So how can I sabotage things so I don't have to pay him

and his value is not what it should be elsewhere either. Can I do you one note, Joe? Come on, man. How about this here? I remember the man when he made Tony Romo the highest paid player in the NFL.

Name the time Tony Romo had to pay the tail end of his contract. How many playoff wins Tony Romo got? I ain't saying nothing. I know it is what it is. I'm just asking you guys a question.

I don't understand. He treated Tony Romo like he was Peyton Manning, like he was Tom Brady, like he was Drew Brees. I don't understand. Help me understand. Maybe you might have a better understanding on what he's trying to do. What is he doing?

What is the point? What are you trying to prove? Dak is one of the few players that hasn't imposed Jerry. He keeps him at arm's distance. All the other players have ingratiated themselves with Jerry. That's not how Dak's been.

It's a business. It's a business, right? Who are the partners? It's not the players, if I'm not mistaken. We just talked about that. Yes. It's business. Keep it as that.

And Dak is one of those that has kept it as that and understands that. Especially with, listen, there have been so many times that Jerry, I'm not going to say has thrown Dak under the bus, but he ain't meaning right. He ain't meaning right and he ain't meaning well. So many times. I mean, because when we look at

it, if I'm not mistaken, he released Emmett. He released Larry Allen I think Troy retired or maybe he released him before he retired same thing with Mike so all this notion about oh Jerry loves his stars

check and see what he did with him well it's a business boy it will always be that no matter who you are now when you can play him when you're young that's a different ball game it's a different story what have you done what have you done for me lately oh okay during the 2001 offseason troy eggman was waived the day before he was doing 70 million seven year contract extension ultimately announced announced his retirement on April 9th.

Now, hold on. Now, that's the quarterback that won three Super Bowls and was a Super Bowl MVP. Every time. Wait, wait, wait, wait. How much was he due? You said $70 million? A contract extension of $70 million, a seven-year extension.

But you gotta realize, in 2001, $10 million a year was a lot of money. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially back then. Yeah, yeah. Yes. So, I think he had, oh, concussions. Was it concussions or it was bad? Bad.

He ultimately announced his retirement on April 9th after failing to find another team. Failing? Oh, due to the back injuries, probably. I guess they say it's back injuries. Nobody wanted to touch him. Remember Emmitt wound up going to Arizona?

Arizona, yeah. Larry Allen goes to San Francisco and makes the Pro Bowl. Didn't Larry Allen make two more Pro Bowls? Larry was good, bro. Good? Hell, I'll make a case he's the greatest lineman ever played in the NFL. Larry, man, I was with Larry a few times at the Pro Bowl, bro.

But that joker there was strong, bro. So, well, that's what we Cowboys are doing. We know what y'all trying to do, Cowboys. Baca, keep doing what you're doing. Dak, hold your head, baby. I got you. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them.

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