Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Colorado not enough, Traeshon Holden disrespectful, Brady vs Brees

Episode Date: October 13, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to an insane ending in Boulder with #18 Kansas State staving off Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders and the Colorado Buffaloes despite a late game su...rge by Shedeur Sanders and the Buffalo offense in the Big 12 showdown. Later, Unc and Ocho rip Oregon WR Traeshon Holden for getting ejected over spitting on an Ohio State player, New Orleans Saints DE Cam Jordan calls Drew Brees the GOAT and much more!03:18 - Show starts03:32 - Intro05:30 - CU loses to K State12:58 - Oregon beats Ohio State28:00 - Alabama v South Carolina32:42 - LSU v Ole Miss36:23 - Texas v Oklahoma43:26 - Penn State v USC53:00 - Tom Brady55:56 - Cam Jordan on Brees(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:44 We thank you for your support. We thank you for voting. And we thank you. We thank you. We thank you. Ocho, as I mentioned at the top, the Kansas State Wildcats go into Boulder, Colorado, and come away with a victory. 38-21, Colorado down for much of the ballgame. Found a way to take the lead late in the ballgame. And when they needed a defense to get a stop, Ocho, they couldn't get it. As the Kansas State go in, get a very tough, hard-fought victory, 31-28. Tell me what you saw, what you liked and what you didn't like.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Man, listen, what I didn't like is them being at a disadvantage. Colorado not having Brother Horn, not having Travis Hunter. I think it put them behind. They lost their three top receivers. All went down. Yeah. All three of them being gone and being behind the eight ball so early in the game and still being able to be in it towards the end. Obviously, as far as defense is concerned, not being able to get a stop when it was needed most.
Starting point is 00:06:39 But I think still having three of your top receivers down, this is a testament that the fact that they were even still in the game to Shador Sanders and some of the defensive series that they did have to keep them in the game so towards the end, they were even in the game to begin with. Because if this was Colorado of old,
Starting point is 00:06:57 the game would have been over a long time ago. So listen, I'm not really trying to say it's a good thing that they did lose, but I do see the improvement. Yeah, I see the proof in the pudding and them getting better and still being able to compete without some of the top dogs, even in the loss.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I saw some Ocho. They couldn't stop the run in the first three quarters. They did a better job late in the ball game. I think they had 11, 12, 13 yards. Ocho, you can't let a team run the ball like that on you. I don't care what level of football you play. If you can't stop the run, you can't win. And again, another thing that I saw, Ocho, at early on,
Starting point is 00:07:44 they were bringing pressure to get to Shador. Late in the ballgame, that was just four-man pressure. That was just four guys. And they weren't even bringing the extra man. Early in the game, they were bringing the extra man. They were bringing the extra guy, yeah. You know what happened. You know, as the game goes, you get to those late quarters.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Now, you know, them boys get tired now. You get tired, you get lackadaisical, you get lackadaisical. Your technique, you know, it squanders a little bit. But, I mean, listen, they almost had it. You know, kudos to the Oregon State. I'm not sure about Oregon State. Kudos, I don't know why I'm thinking I'm a goddamn alma mater. Kudos to Kansas State.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I mean, it was a good game. And the fact that the game was this late i think it was perfect because if it if it had been a blowout i think everybody would have been pissed yes i'm i'm up past my goddamn bedtime but it was a very exciting game i enjoyed it despite them losing it was good i'm mad i'm mad all the top three offensive weapons went out yeah but i still think i i think uh they played well enough they had a lead because remember they went up they went in front 28 to 24 so they ain't got nothing to do with offensive weapons so you got the lead right now that comes down to your defense can i say something yeah even though it comes down to defense think about the points
Starting point is 00:09:05 that would have been on the board if you did have those weapons think about if travis hunter was there for that last series where they were where they threw that ball what do you think would happen yeah i mean and he was there i'm just saying i'm thinking about the what ifs if they were playing or if travis hunter was in i think it might be a 14-point difference or swing as opposed to it being 28-24 and you go away with that win because that might be an interception on that throw that Brother Aby threw. Yeah, that's probably a Trav side.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yeah, well, it was. That's who was taking Trav's place. Yeah, I mean, you're up there in press coverage and you open the gate. I mean, why get in press coverage if you're not going to put hands on people? Yeah. And that's what you're there for.
Starting point is 00:09:52 If you're not going to press back off, you put yourself in a decided disadvantage if you land up in press coverage. Because think about it, Ocho. You got a backpedal. You open the gate, you get a guy free release. Yeah. Hey, unless you fast as all outdoors, you got to put your hands on him.
Starting point is 00:10:16 But like I said, I mean, I saw some things. I'm glad they were able to get that corrected, that rush defense. Right. But then the pressure. And so you started to see as the game started to wane to go on, Ocho, K-State felt they didn't need to bring pressure, but they just, it was just
Starting point is 00:10:32 four men, and they did a lot of ETs and TEs, which I mean, tackle twist, tackle end twist, and it was confusing the offensive linemen because they were staying too long. Normally when you see it coming, you shove the guy onto the tackle, you shove him onto the guard, and then you wait to catch the other
Starting point is 00:10:48 guy that's coming around. Right. And it seems like they caused a lot of problems, but Shadur ran himself into a couple of problems also, Ocho, because they had a twist one time late in the game and he thought he could spin up out of it, but bro, you spun right into the way the back blocked him. Right into
Starting point is 00:11:03 the twist, yeah. Right into the way the back blocked it. Right into the twist, yeah. Right into the way the guy blocked it. Look, I know people are going to say, man, that last play, you got to live with it. Because you know he likes to push the ball down the field on the fourth down play. I'm sure people are thinking it should have been a pass interference. I wouldn't have been upset.
Starting point is 00:11:24 They probably said, well, he probably couldn't catch the ball. How many times you seen somebody make a catch? You like, I don't know how he caught that. So you don't get to determine what's a catchable ball or not, because you don't know what a guy's capable of doing. If they threw the flag, would I have been upset? Like, oh, I don't think that's a PI, but they didn't. So ain't no sense enough, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:45 believing a point now, Ocho. The game is over. I just wish the C.U.'s defense could have got that stop right there. Yeah. Because I think that win would have done a lot because you went on the road, you beat UCF, and now you come home and you beat a ranked Kansas
Starting point is 00:12:01 State team. So that would have been a situation where you can consolidate two quality wins. Now, obviously, UCF is falling on hard times, but to string together, that's what they need to do, Ocho. They need to string together a couple of quality wins to give them some
Starting point is 00:12:18 confidence. But, you know, give Kansas State credit. They didn't panic. They were in control of this ballgame for pretty much the entirety of the ballgame, Mocho. The quarterback throws a pick and gets a run back. Hell, I thought he was going to run it back. He kind of tripped over his own guy. But lucky Shadu was able to get the ball into the end zone.
Starting point is 00:12:37 But for the most part, and then that last drive, he made big throw after big throw after big throw. So give the guys credit. They found a way to win the ball game. And that's what you have to do when you're on the road. Who does Colorado have next? You talk about they need to string together some wins. Is there a possibility that they can string together someone based on the schedule so far?
Starting point is 00:12:57 Or you think it's going to be difficult? They're in Arizona. They're in Arizona or Arizona coming down? They're in Arizona next week. Okay. Okay. That's a good one. That's winnable. It is.
Starting point is 00:13:15 The number three Oregon Ducks hit a 19-yard field goal with just under two minutes remaining and hold on to beat the number two Ohio State Buckeyes. Lined up at the Ducks' 36-yard line with six minutes left, the Buckeyes' final snap ended when quarterback Will Howard scrambled up the middle. Howard was 28-35, 326 in three touchdowns, one on the ground. Dylan Gabriel had one of his best starts of his career
Starting point is 00:13:45 hitting 23 or 34 passes 341 yards three touchdowns of his own the two teams combined for 963 yards of total offense ocho yes sir what is with these quarterbacks man i don't think he was thinking about the situation oh okay what okay. What's the situation? Situational awareness should have kicked in long before that to know you can't do that. And that's, we just talked about this two weeks ago about a guy running out of bounds. He wouldn't even throw the ball in the guy from Tennessee. He ran out of bounds, Ocho. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:23 This guy slides. For what? You do realize you don't have the first down. There's only like seven seconds on the clock when you snapped it. Let's get to the ball game. A very exciting ball game. A back and forth
Starting point is 00:14:40 ball game. I mean, this is what you expect to see when two and three meet. You know what? I don't want me personally. I don't want to see the second-ranked team blow out the number three team, and I don't want to see the number three team blow out the number two team. I want it to come down to the wire just like this.
Starting point is 00:14:58 This is what I want to see, what I see. When I watch what's supposed to be two of the best teams in the country lock horns, this is what I want to be two of the best teams in the country, lock horns. Yeah. This is what I want to see, Ocho. Yeah. I say when I first watched it, honestly, I'm just going to be honest with you. I thought Ohio State was going to dominate.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I thought they were going to dominate the game strictly from a receiver standpoint with the receiver they have and the quarterback they have. I thought they were going to go in there and just run up and down the field all willy-nilly, but it wasn't nothing like that. It was nothing like that. Oregon's defense surprised me, especially the front interior, and the DBs played very well. Obviously, there were some balls caught,
Starting point is 00:15:41 but I didn't see the receivers from Ohio State just go crazy like they normally do against everybody else. Jeremiah Smith had had somewhat of a good game. He's he's a man amongst men, even though he's a freshman. Other than that, I mean, it was it was a it was a really, really good game. Like you said, a good matchup between two and three. I just thought it was going to be lopsided and oregon oregon came to play some goddamn ball but they really did ocho these are the type of games that oregon normally lose they play a bigger physical team yeah big guys up front that dominate
Starting point is 00:16:16 both the offense and defensive line these are the games that oregon normally lose But if you look at them, they ran the ball 31 rushes 155 yards. They threw the ball at 23 completions 341 yards. That lets me know that like, okay, they came to play today. They're like, we got to make a stand. And they got, you know, teams like Ohio State,
Starting point is 00:16:40 Michigan, they like to play bully ball. And a lot of times, Oregon doesn't get the type of offense and defense of linemen. These SEC teams and the Big Ten, you talk about Michigan and you talk about Ohio State get, but today
Starting point is 00:16:55 they put on their big boy pants. They put on their big boy pants and they play big boy football and they match the intensity that we normally see because when we think of Pac-12 team, although Oregon is in the Big Ten now, we think finesse. Yeah. They play physical football today. They buckle it up.
Starting point is 00:17:17 They fasten their chin straps and they came to play today, Ocho. They play today. And we don't normally see. I'm watching Oregon get in big games today, and we don't normally see. I watch Oregon get in big games like this, and they normally went to bed. They did not lay down today. They came to play, and it's like, we're not
Starting point is 00:17:34 leaving this field without a victory. Yeah, that defensive line played very, very well. I'm not sure how to pronounce his last name the right way, but I think it was number 10. I think it's number 10 for Oregon. Either D-Tack, who d tackle with the dn but he played one hell of a goddamn game but he played i don't want to say i don't want to say his name wrong but i don't want to be disrespectful but young bull if you see this boy you're the real deal but i think he's more than two oh yeah
Starting point is 00:18:01 but see that's a lot of guys that's what they get a lot of uh amer But see, that's a lot of guys. They get a lot of America, Samoa. They get a lot of Hawaiians. They get a lot of that Samoa, those big Pinesse Sewell. Yeah. The Holodinatas and those guys. They get guys like that. Right, right. And so normally they don't have enough of them.
Starting point is 00:18:21 It's not a problem. They get one or two. They need three, four, five, or six of them. But they played the way they played today, the way they ran the football today. James had 23 for 115. E. Stewart had seven for a buck 49. And Dylan Gabriel, you see he jumped in the portal.
Starting point is 00:18:38 He was at Oklahoma last year, Ocho. He came here. They gave him the bag. That's why teams are paying $750 to a million for a top-light quarterback because that's the difference. And you know what's good? You know what would have been the head storyline? Who would that?
Starting point is 00:18:52 If the Ducks would have lost, holding and getting ejected for spitting at the OSU quarterback. Ocho, what's going on with Ocho? When did this happen? Where the F did I go? I mean, he lost his temperament. Lost his temperament a little bit. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Especially in the game. You can't do that. You can't hurt your team. You can't hurt yourself like that, for one. No. Damn the team. I'd have hurt him. He wouldn't have hurt the team.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I'd have hurt him. Yeah. I think I just grew up at a different time right people would have beat you within an inch of your life for spitting on them do you understand how disrespectful that is oh you talk about when you in your time they would still beat you with okay okay i'm just making i'm just making sure i'm i'm i'm confused though because also i'm start you starting to see an uptick right of of incidences like this yes like it's cool no man no no i don't think they think it's cool i think
Starting point is 00:19:54 they don't they don't fear the consequences of doing so you know i maybe not in a football game i'm just saying in general in life in in general, you know, during this era, especially social media area where everything is recorded, everything is for somewhat of attention. But, you know, in this instance, he needs to learn from this. You can't do it. You won't be able to do it at the next level.
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Starting point is 00:25:09 Bro, do you know how disrespectful that is, Ocho? Yeah, yeah. To spit on somebody. I don't think people understand how disrespectful it's viewed and seen as opposed back then when we were growing up. I wonder if they still view it as bad. Nah, they don't look at it because I can honestly say, Ocho, in my time, that incident with Romo,
Starting point is 00:25:36 he was a teammate of mine that spent on J.J. Stokes. I'd never seen that happen before in a game, in a little league game, in Savannah State. Like I said, man man i could have just imagined bro i'm talking about somebody they will hurt you yeah and these kids now they think it's so cool and what we're sharing you know a the motions nah motion go get somebody effed up that's what emotions gonna get somebody man y'all stop this foolishness. Okay, somebody beat you. Somebody scored a touchdown on you.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Somebody juked you out of your shoes. Somebody blocked you. Bro, stop that. Man, you're going to get hurt. You're going to catch the right person on the wrong day. And uh-oh, and I'm sorry, ain't going to help your ass. Right. Man, y'all stop this, kids.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Y'all need to stop this. Y'all need to, first of all, you need to learn some respect. Because I don ass. Man, y'all stop this, kids. Y'all need to stop this. First of all, you need to learn some respect, because I don't know who taught y'all. That's rude. Man, Porter and Barney, Porter didn't play that bull, John. That's fitting. Oh, hell no.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah. Man, please. I was thinking to myself, I said, man, what are these kids? What are they thinking? When did they think that was cool yeah I don't think they think it's cool but times are different times are different kids are moving different the music is different
Starting point is 00:26:56 I mean everything is different as opposed to how it was obviously when we grew up it's just different in general yeah but it just goes to show you because certain things you wouldn't even attempt You know, when we grew up, it's just different in general. Yeah. But it just goes to show you because certain things you wouldn't even attempt. Oh, no. No.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Back then? Absolutely not. No. Boy, it took an act of God and 10,000 soldiers to get me off his ass. Man, don't do that. Man, that is one of the most disrespectful acts that you can do to someone. Hold on. It was to who? An agnodon and 10,000 soldiers.
Starting point is 00:27:34 That's a good one. Ocho, can you just think about it, Ocho? I want you to think about it. You mad at somebody and you like... Nah. That ain't what i'm thinking if i get mad at you i'm not thinking that i'm not thinking about spitting on somebody because if you were to spit on somebody whatever happens to you after that yeah i ain't got no problem with it. Right, right, right, right, right. That's how I operate. So whatever, whatever,
Starting point is 00:28:07 whatever happens to you after said act, I rock with old boy. Right. No matter what. No matter what. Man, that was excessive. So was your act.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Y'all need to stop this. Y'all need to stop this. Yeah, that's a. So was your act. Mm-hmm. Y'all need to stop this. Y'all need to stop this. Yeah, that's a nasty one there, boy. That's a nasty one. Boy, that thing. Woo! Yeah, that thing. Like I said,
Starting point is 00:28:40 like I said, Ocho, I think the mindset, because things that, like calling somebody, like I said, Ocho, I think the mindset, cause things that like calling somebody, like calling somebody to be word, what growing up, my grandfather, the two things,
Starting point is 00:28:53 boy, don't you spit on somebody and don't you kick somebody? Cause he was big. He said, boy, your feet made for walking. Yeah. You say, son,
Starting point is 00:29:02 you wouldn't need kick a dog. So you put your feet on somebody you telling them they're a dog or worse right he didn't play that if you want if you want to get your ass tore up let somebody come in the house and say that oh shannon kick me or kick even even even playing around Ocho no that man did not play that he was very very big on respect
Starting point is 00:29:34 he demanded it so he said look you don't kick people you don't spit on people above all else you keep your hands to yourself that's how he was he preached that to us he told his daughters
Starting point is 00:29:50 hey don't you hit no man he said because if you hit a man a man gonna forget that you're a female because he said you're trying to challenge him he said you acting like a man he gonna treat you like one now a man hit you you come tell me and I deal with him. Or your brothers will deal with him.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Learn that very own. I ain't putting my hands on nobody's daughters because I got daughters. I ain't going to put my hands, I don't spit on nobody. I ain't nobody will ever tell you, will ever tell you, Shannon Sharp kicked him. Well, I did kick, I tried to spit on nobody. I ain't nobody will ever tell you, will ever tell you, Shannon Sharp kicked him. Well, I did try to kick Winston Moss. I tried to kick him in the head. Tried to kick him in the heaven.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Because he got a bad. I got a pass on him, Ocho. And he got up. Man, you know how you get up off the ground, Ocho? Yeah. This ninja got up off the ground on my helmet. Oh, he pushing off for you to get up. Oh, my helmet with my head.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yes. Hold on. With your head on the floor. Yeah. My head was on. Yes. Man. Man, I try.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Boy, I try to kick him so hard. But. Man, these kids, they just. It's a different time. Oh time mojo i'm glad i haven't got enough i'm glad i haven't got enough out the way i'm glad i haven't got enough out the way whoo alabama survives against the carolina game cox 27 25 alabama made a lot of made a late defensive stance and held off the game co 27-25. There were several signs of concern, including whoo!
Starting point is 00:31:29 They were up 14, Carolina scored 19 straight, the Bureau of Washington, but has not translated well to the physicality and style of playing the SEC. Yeah. But beating the game, Cox keeps the Tide alive in the SEC Championship and a playoff berth.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Listen, But beating the game card keeps the Tide alive in the SEC championship and a playoff berth. Yes, sir. The Alabama that I'm used to watching, when I am watching college football or I have the opportunity to watch Alabama, it's missing. That mystique, that aura, that utter domination on both sides of the ball, not only in the interior, in the secondary as well. When I look at Alabama, I normally see players that are going to play on Sundays, not just any play. I'm talking about players that are going to be superstars, players that can change the dynamic and the trajectory of a franchise in the NFL. I just don't see that right now. I don't see that right now.
Starting point is 00:32:24 And a team like Alabama shouldn't be struggling like this. I'm not saying the opponents that they're playing at a school that they're playing are inferior. I'm just saying I think other schools have caught up in terms of having the same type of talent. Everything that the, how do you say, the even, the playing field is even. It is even tremendously where they just can't dominate like they once did. Yeah, they can't run the football.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Jalen Monroe has to understand Ocho. He doesn't have a defense that's good enough to overcome the turnovers. The mistakes, yeah. Yeah, he had another two turnovers today that put them in harm's way. I mean, he was 16-23 for 209,
Starting point is 00:33:09 a touchdown, but he had two turnovers. Not good. He had 18 rushes for 36 yards, two touchdowns, but they can't run the football, Ocho. 38 carries, 104 yards. That's not Alabama. You know what they can do?
Starting point is 00:33:25 What? They can drop back and throw the ball to Ryan Williams every play. Well, that would be good if they could protect him every play, which they can't. Yeah, you're right. You're right. That's the problem with them. They gave up two, three, four.
Starting point is 00:33:43 They gave up four sacks, nine tackle for losses. That's the quickest way to get your beat, Ocho. But look, South Carolina's better than you think. Remember, they went to the last play of the game.
Starting point is 00:33:54 They had LSU on the ropes. LSU just beat number nine, what, Ole Miss? Ole Miss, yeah. So, Carolina's a little better than their, you know, their record is 3-3. But they could have easily won this game,
Starting point is 00:34:10 and they could have easily beaten LSU. But this is not the Alabama. Look, we saw some things that caused us calls for pause, even in a win against Georgia. They were up, what, 30-7? Yeah. And Georgia ends up coming all the way back and taking the lead
Starting point is 00:34:27 if only for, you know, one play. They took the lead and the next day, you know, Alabama comes out, the next possession and 75-yard strike to Ryan Williams. But, yeah, this is not the Alabama we're used to seeing. The physicality
Starting point is 00:34:44 on both sides of the line, offense and defensive line, they don't dominate the Alabama we're used to seeing. The physicality on both sides of the line, offense and defensive line, they don't dominate consistently like we're used to seeing. Right. I think the left tackle is really good. I think Proctor, I think the left tackle, he's probably going to be a high draft pick, Ocho. But it's not what we're used to seeing.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And you're playing the SEC, bro. You got to be physical. Very. You got to be physical. Very, you got to be physical. You got to be physical. Ain't no way that finesse. Nah, bro. You got to be physical. You can have some razzle dazzle, but you better have, Hey, but you better have them boys on that offensive defensive line that can move, that can move some people. And right now they're not doing that on a consistent enough basis. They're they're five and
Starting point is 00:35:25 one they still have a a chance to get to the SEC championship uh for a birth in a college football playoffs but they got a tough test again next week they're on the road in Knoxville we hey boy that's gonna be a good one so this is one of those games like we talked about last week or maybe was it week before last about the atmosphere yes oh yeah so it a week before last, about the atmosphere? Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They'll have 100,000 in there easy. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Absolutely. Alabama? Oh, yeah. That's going to be a good one. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Number 13, LSU rallies to beat number nine, Ole Miss, 29-26 in overtime. Nussmeyer threw a big game-tying touchdown pass
Starting point is 00:36:06 to Aaron Anderson in the final seconds of Revelation, then hit Kyron Lacey for a 25-yard scoring strike on the first play of LSU's first play of overtime, completing the stunning comeback victory over number nine Mississippi. LSU, look,
Starting point is 00:36:24 that first game, Brian Kelly blamed everybody except Brian Kelly. Right. And they've been kind of living on the edge the last couple of weeks. But the mark of a team, good team, is find ways to win. And that's what they've been able to do the last couple of weeks. So they keep finding ways to win. Yeah. what they've been able to do the last couple of weeks. They keep finding ways to win. 22 of 51.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Three touchdowns for Nussmeier. He did have the two interceptions. But Ole Miss should have won this game. They should have put this game away, but they keep... Ocho, you know what happens. Let a team hang around long enough. Long enough. And they'll find a way
Starting point is 00:37:04 to beat you. Give them too much confidence yep um he had two receivers over 100 yards uh lee had nine for buck 32 harris had seven for 102 um but like i said you left him around long enough and had 84 total plays 84 total plays uh well lsu passed the ball 22 or 51 337 three touchdowns two interceptions but you know give lsu credit look they got talent oh yeah they got that they got talent you gotta find a way to put it all together though yeah yeah if they find a way to put it all together like that let's let's say that 2019 lsu now i don't think they had that kind of talent 2019 not like that but a whole lot of college teams ocho had that kind of talent in the history you got to go back you got no you got to go back to miami yeah yeah yeah you got to go
Starting point is 00:37:58 back to that usc team when they had ronnie lot and they had marcus allen and they had you know uh uh who else was on that team um dennis smith you know they had lynn kane they had Marcus Allen and they had, you know, who else was on that team? Dennis Smith, you know, they had Lynn Kane. They had all those guys on that team. You got to go back to find teams like that before you are. The old Miami, when they had Danny Stubbs and Jerome Brown and Testa Birdie and High Smith and Irvin, they've had all those guys. They had a whole lot of teams that had that guy, especially offensive talent.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Now, offensive talent, you talk about a number one overall quarterback, a top five wide receiver, a top 20 wide receiver in Jefferson. You had, who else? Clyde Edwards-Alaire. Yeah. Who else was on that? What was the other guy? I think he ended up going to Carolina.
Starting point is 00:38:47 So they had three receivers drafted, two in the first round. Your quarterback goes number one of all. Your running back goes in the first round. You had the best offensive line in football. No, there hadn't been a whole lot of teams. Now, LSU don't have that kind of talent. Hell no. Not even close.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Not even close. Hell no. But. kind of talent. Hell no. Not even close. Not even close. Hell no. But they got more talent than you think they got. Yeah. Wow. Somebody had 18 total
Starting point is 00:39:20 tackles, 10 solo. Wow. Very, very funny. Sack, tackle for loss? Go ahead. No, I was getting ready to talk about another game, but I don't think we didn't get to it yet. I'll wait until we get there. Oh, okay. We got
Starting point is 00:39:40 okay. It wasn't a pretty performance, especially for the rocky first quarter, but the number one Texas Longhorns took their of business won 34-3 over the rival the red rebel shootout um 30-43 number 16 oklahoma to remain the only unbeaten the only unbeaten team in sec the longhorns got off to a slow start saturday with more penalty yards 15 than that offensive yards 13 in the first quarter. Quinn Ewers was sacked in the first play, the game's first play, then intercepted two plays later.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Ewers finished with 199 passing yards and ran through a touchdown, while the running game earned 177 yards on 30 carries. Texas held the soonest to 234 yards, 3.4 yards per play, with a good chunk of that yardage coming when the game was already well, well, well, well out of hand. Texas
Starting point is 00:40:31 planted a longhorn flag through the Oklahoma-Baker-Mayfield jersey. No love lost, Ojo, in the Red River rivalry. Listen, it's supposed to be a rivalry, right? At the beginning, it felt like a rivalry, but as the game went on and kept going on, it was supposed to be a rivalry, right? Yeah. At the beginning, it felt like a rivalry. But as the game went on and kept going on, it was lopsided.
Starting point is 00:40:49 It was one-sided. So I was sitting there with excitement, had my cigar, had my little coffee. I say, okay, Quinn, yours is back. You know, Oklahoma. Let me see what this rivalry is all about. Well, Oklahoma. Let me see what this rivalry is all about. Well, hell. It really wasn't much of a rivalry based on what I saw. Nah.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Oklahoma ain't what it was. At the beginning, Oklahoma put up a good fight. I said, okay, we got a game. Oh, we got a game. And as time went on, man, it was nothing like that. It wasn't a snooze fest. It wasn't a snooze fest. It wasn't a snooze fest, but it was enjoyable to watch Brother Edwards, Ewers, Ewers work, being back from injury.
Starting point is 00:41:35 You know, despite the turnovers, you got to fix that, especially if you have to play an even better team, you won't be able to overcome those mistakes. But it was, eh, it's't be able to overcome those mistakes. It's not what I thought it would be. They beat Texas defense. The way they sold it to me, it wasn't what I thought
Starting point is 00:41:54 it was going to be. It is a rivalry. They've been playing each other probably for over 100 years, but Texas is really, really good. Especially that damn defense. They're really, really good. Yeah. Especially that damn defense. They're really, really good. Sark has done a great
Starting point is 00:42:09 job. He understands in order to compete for national championships, being around Coach Saban, he knows the type of player that he needs to get. He's a great offensive mind. If you're a wide receiver, quarterback, running back, you're going to run a pro style
Starting point is 00:42:26 offense he's going to help get you prepared to go play in the NFL and so this is the best team that I've seen in the SEC but guess what they got the Bulldogs coming to town next week in Austin
Starting point is 00:42:40 hold on George ain't been looking too bright they self tonight. No, no, no, no. But you know what, Ocho? It used to be you played defense in the SEC. Right. But now if you can't score points,
Starting point is 00:42:53 you can't win. Right. And the days of the way Alabama played defense and they would hold you down and you score 10 points. That's over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:04 That's over. You better go win these games 41 to 34. You better win some games 38-31, 38-35, Ocho. Them 20 to 10s. Yeah. And day's over. That's over. That's over.
Starting point is 00:43:18 The game's too wide open. It's too wide open right now, Ocho. And so – and it ain't coming back. It ain't coming back. Texas is just better right now than Oklahoma. Brent Venable better be real careful. Because they got Bob Stoose up out of there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:34 It ain't good enough to win eight, nine games. Some programs, it's not good enough to win eight, nine games. Right. You need to challenge for national championships. You need to be winning 12 and 13 games. Well, you know, in order to do that, you know what you need, man. You know what you need. Y'all be your boosters.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Y'all better come on, come on, man. Yeah. Well, they'd have a better chance. But when Gabriel, Dylan Gabriel, Oregon quarterback, he was at Oklahoma last year, Ocho. Right. You know, hey, that Nike money. You know, hey, $750 to $1 million for a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:44:13 For a 19, 20-year-old kid. Can you imagine if you was getting NIL back when you was 19? Yeah. 75 a month, 85 a month. Boy, listen. But yeah, when you look at it,
Starting point is 00:44:33 Ocho, Texas is just better. Yeah. Ain't no way, you left that game saying, you know what, Oklahoma,
Starting point is 00:44:40 we ain't even mad at you. Right. It's just better than we are. Yeah. It's just better than we are. Yeah. It's just better, Ocho. Sometimes you have to open your mouth and say that. Mm-hmm. Or as we say, mouth.
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Starting point is 00:49:47 Tyler Warren caught 17 passes for 224 yards, tying an FBS record for most catches by a tight end in the game and posting the second most receiving yards in school history. Lincoln Riley took responsibility for the Trojans blowing a 14-point halftime lead with the Trojans falling. In 3-3, Riley said they have a chance to win all six games despite playing one of the hardest schedules in the country. Hell, you had an opportunity to win all six of the first games you played. Oh, yeah. To put yourself in a position to win these games is freaking hard to do
Starting point is 00:50:18 to begin with. I get it. We have to do a better job at the end of games. I'll have to do a better job. We've got to be able to finish, and all that falls on my shoulders. That's why they call me head coach. That's nice to hear a coach
Starting point is 00:50:33 taking accountability and not blaming on anybody else. But most of the time, it does happen more often in college as opposed to the NFL. Yeah. I mean, look, you got a 14-point lead. Ain't nothing in college. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Not with the way they throwing the ball. You get one three and out. You get one three and out. Another team get the ball. Before you know it, they don't throw it. It's a tie ball game. Yeah. Now you got a ball game.
Starting point is 00:51:02 But what I don't understand, Ocho, at some point in time, you know the guy cooking. You got to make some adjustments. Y'all just going to let the guy just keep catching the ball? Well, you know what's funny when you talk about making adjustments? Sometimes you don't have the personnel to stop the person that's actually cooking. I'm going to stop him. I can't stop.
Starting point is 00:51:21 I'm going to stop him. Right. I'm going to make him. Ocho, the guy had, okay, he had 17. He had more catches by himself than the rest of the team had to combine. Combine. He had 224. The next close was 53, then 39, then 33, then 26.
Starting point is 00:51:37 I'm going to make somebody that had 53, 39, or 33. I'm going to let them get some of them yards. Right. Because I know the tight end killing me. Let's see if somebody else can beat us. But at least try Ocho Del. Listen, that's
Starting point is 00:51:52 what I said. Sometimes you ain't got the personnel. The adjustments you want to make, you're trying to make them. You know you can't make them because you understand what you got on your side. And that individual sometimes is just that special where you can only hope to contain them, but she ain't stopping.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yeah. Yeah. That was, uh, that was not a good look. Uh, the Ant and Lynn, uh,
Starting point is 00:52:15 came over from UCLA. I wasn't doing their UCLA and they paid him a lot of money. Yeah. I've been, no, I know, I know the kid when he was a little bit bigger than Christian McCaffrey I played with his dad
Starting point is 00:52:27 Anthony Lynn so and I thought after what they did over the didn't they beat LSU I think they beat LSU over the night when they made that was LSU yeah and I was like okay defense but it's the same thing Ocho
Starting point is 00:52:43 the defense sucks again it's the same thing, Ocho. The defense sucks again. It's sucking again. I mean, and I don't know what Lincoln Riley got to do because his defense sucked at Oklahoma. That's what got him beat. I mean, when you think about college football, especially today in this era, are defenses really that good? think about college football, especially today in this era, are
Starting point is 00:53:05 defenses really that good in general? In general. They're not dominating. They're not suffocating. Keeping teams from scoring, you might be lucky to score 14.
Starting point is 00:53:21 You're just not getting that anymore. Everybody putting up 30, 40-something goddamn points every goddamn week. You ain't shutting up. First of all, the likelihood, I mean, like the Georgia defense, I don't know if we're going to see that again.
Starting point is 00:53:37 When they was holding people to 10 points, 12 points before the season. Do you know how difficult that is? Do you know how much talent you have to have on your team to be able to hold another collegiate team, the 10, the 12 points a game? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:55 It ain't happening anytime soon. But, well, you can do it if you got seven, eight first rivals on your defense like Georgia had. Oh yeah, most definitely. You get Walker, who's the first overall pick, and then you get Jalen Carter, you get
Starting point is 00:54:11 Jordan Davis, and you get Nicole B. Dean, and you get all those first round picks that they took. Green Bay got like two of them on their roster. That's seven. He ended up getting cut, but he was a first round pick so they had like six or seven first rounders on defense yeah you can do that
Starting point is 00:54:29 but how many teams how many teams gonna have six seven first rounders it ain't likely I mean but today you can get you about six or seven first rounders depending on how much you willing to pay for right well I mean you you might have a situation where you get like,
Starting point is 00:54:46 you get like the Bosa brothers and you get, what's the other guy named? He was the commanders and he was the 49ers. Now he's with the Saints. I mean, you know, you had those D, the string of defensive men. You had Nick Bosa. From Ohio State. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Ohio State, all those D linemen. Yeah. That come out of there. But yeah, it's hard, O Ocho to go in there and say okay we're going to shut this team down nah y'all hold them and let us get a couple extra possessions against them so we get up 14 and that way when they
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Starting point is 00:56:40 the canes miami was on a buy alab Alabama survives 27-25 over the South Carolina Gamecocks. Tennessee win 23-17 over the Gators. LSU, touchdown, first possession of overtime. Number 13, LSU, 29. Number nine, Ole Miss, 26. And Clemson Tigers seem to have found their footing. 49-14 over the Wake Forest Demon Deacons.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Oh, Joe, which game do you feel had the biggest playoff implication tonight? Oh, let me see. The biggest playoff implications? Oh, The biggest playoff implications. Maybe that Oregon-Ohio State?
Starting point is 00:57:39 No. No. I would say LSU-Ole Miss because both of those teams would have had with about five-6 games left 2 losses already I don't believe it LSU only has 1 loss right but if they had a loss
Starting point is 00:57:54 oh if they would have lost that's why it had such a playoff implication because think about how many games you got left and you already got 2 losses because look at Oregon Oregon doesn't have Oregon or Ohio State have a loss. You know you're right. They were both undefeated.
Starting point is 00:58:09 They were both undefeated. So even if they lose, Ocho, they're not going to fall out of the top 10. LSU, you're going to probably drop maybe to like 19, 20. Ole Miss, you're going to free fall. Because you just had a horrible loss just last week. You know what I should have did? I should have went Alabama,South Carolina. Because if
Starting point is 00:58:25 Alabama had won, which almost happened. No, if they'd have lost, you mean. I mean, if they would have lost, they would have had two losses. I don't know. Knowing the way FBS does the whole, they was going to squeeze them in any goddamn way.
Starting point is 00:58:41 No, because Alabama still has to go on the road to LSU. They got to go on the road to Tennessee. They still got Auburn, which is, you know, the Iron Bowl. It can get ugly. It definitely would have been doomsday. But again, another thing,
Starting point is 00:58:58 Ocho, guess what? That's two losses. Yeah. And then they'd have been back to back. I guess unranked teams. Yeah. So, absolutely. That would definitely not have been back to back against unranked teams so absolutely that would definitely not have been good for them Ocho Tom Brady's long path to becoming a
Starting point is 00:59:14 minority stake owner in the Las Vegas Raiders are finally at the finish line the NFL's finance committee has reviewed Brady's bid and plans to bring it to other franchise owners for a vote Tuesday fall meetings in Atlanta. Brady will need at least 24 of the league's owners, 24 to 32 league's owners, to vote affirmative. According to Adam Schefter, the committee will not bring Brady's ownership to stake a vote if it wasn't sure it would be approved.
Starting point is 00:59:41 If and when Brady is approved, he will be the new owner of approximately 10% of the Raiders as part of a group. Yeah, because that'll take up all his little money. Oh, yeah. Because I think the thing is, Joe, is that these franchises,
Starting point is 00:59:59 you saw the Commanders go for $6 billion. Yeah. 10% of $6 billion is $600 million. And you know who. That was that's a simple math.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Do you understand how much money these folk have, man? Yeah. We sit here, we look at athletes' contracts and we look at the huge numbers. And do we, do we, I wonder if people like actually understand when you think about it to them,
Starting point is 01:00:33 to the ones, if they, if we make that much, imagine how much the owners make, imagine how much the people that own the team, the minority owners, the majority owners. The numbers are crazy when you sit back and think about it. I think people really don't.
Starting point is 01:00:54 It's mind-boggling. So I don't know what the Raiders are worth. Hell, I think, what you call them, I think Davis is a minority. He's the majority owner. worth. Hell, I think, what you call them, I think Davis is a minority. He's the majority owner, but he doesn't own it all like, you know, say like the McCaskies. Virginia McCaskie, I think her and her son
Starting point is 01:01:16 who's Coach Hallison, that's his daughter. Right. Or, you know, the Lions, the Fords. The Fords. Yeah. Because I think he turned it over to her dad or to her daughter. I think her daughter runs it now because
Starting point is 01:01:32 the Ford, see, that's how you're married. Ford married a Firestone era. So we got a car. We need tires. Boom. There we go. We rolling down the road. See what I did on Joe? We rolling. Hey, that was a good one. That's what
Starting point is 01:01:47 happened. He married the Ford. William Clay, Mr. Ford, he married the Firestone daughter. So, we got tires. You got cars. We got tires. Let's do this. We good. We good. That's all.
Starting point is 01:02:03 That ain't nothing but business, man. Keep it business, man. Yeah. Yeah. Cam Jordan believes that the greatest quarterback of all time is Drew Brees, not Tom Brady. Jordan shared his hot take on Armond St. Brown's podcast saying, Drew Brees is the best quarterback of all time.
Starting point is 01:02:24 There's nobody who has the completion percentage that Drew has. There's nobody that has the five, most 5,000 yard season that Drew has. It took Tom Brady an extra two years to break Brees record. If you're talking about accomplishments, yes, Tom Brady. But if you want to look at stats,
Starting point is 01:02:41 uh, Pat, your stats, okay, put your stats because Drew got those. When he left, there were so many records, so many that he owned. Now your stats. Okay, put your stats because Drew got those. When he left, there were so many records, so many that he owned. Now after Tom retired, Tom Brady played another two years and broke most of them, I believe.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I like the argument. I like the argument. You taking Drew over Peyton? Hell no. Hell no. I mean, listen, i love the argument this cam doing he's going to take a forest quarterback you know i like that then we talk about drew being still one of the best yes all time yeah no matter what but now we're comparing them to the greatest of all time so now So now you got a little bit too much dip on your chip. Cam? Yeah. I love you. I love you. I love you. He's holding
Starting point is 01:03:30 on with his guy. I love how you can find ways to try to put your quarterback in a shadow light to where you feel he's better than Tom Brady. But that's just not the case, no matter how you try to splice it. No matter what numbers you use, no matter what percentages
Starting point is 01:03:45 you may use, Tom Brady's the best to ever play. There's not, I don't know if there's ever going to be a situation where voters, people, put Drew over Tom or Peyton. I just don't see a scenario. Hold on, if he's
Starting point is 01:04:02 talking about voters, people, who else would? Now, I'm just saying, I don't see a scenario where, you know If you talk about voters, people, who else would? I'm just saying, I don't see a scenario where you're like... Right. Yeah, that's what I think. Yeah. And it's not a bad thing. No. Drew's still one of the best of all time.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Yes, I agree. You're comparing him to the greatest of all time. Yeah. So then there's a little bit of disconnect. Your Wi-Fi, it ain't got all the goddamn bars right i agree but i i think had and you look at drew's completion percentage you look at those 5 000 yard season had he had more super bowl appearances yeah now we can have an argument. He has two. He has an MVP. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Now we can have an argument. But with one Super Bowl appearance, one Super Bowl MVP. Not enough. Yeah. I don't know how we get there, Ocho. And he had, like I said, the completion percentage. I think what he completes, 70% of his passes. He had four or five, 5,000 yard seasons.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And, you know, yeah, he had four or five, 5,000 yard seasons. And yeah, you know, yeah, he did have, um, what, uh, uh, y'all passing yardage. I think he might've had the touchdown record,
Starting point is 01:05:11 but you need, you needed a few more. I mean, let's just say he has three or he has two or three. Let's just say he has two Superbowls, three MVPs. That was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I don't think he quite did this, Ocho, but I can see what people will say. Like Tom has seven Super Bowls, five Super Bowl MVPs. Right. He has five, yeah, five. And three regular season MVPs. Right. He has five, yeah, five. And three regular season MVPs. Peyton has five regular season MVPs,
Starting point is 01:05:52 two Super Bowl appearances with two different teams, and a Super Bowl MVP. But he has four appearances. So he went two with the Colts, two with the Broncos. Yeah. So you're like, okay. I think Drew would need
Starting point is 01:06:09 something like that in order. Would need something like that for us. But I get, look, that's your teammate. I got to rock my teammate. Yeah, always. Because they ask me, well, who do you want to be your quarterback, John? Man, why do you say it?
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