Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Colorado not enough, Traeshon Holden disrespectful, Brady vs Brees
Episode Date: October 13, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to an insane ending in Boulder with #18 Kansas State staving off Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders and the Colorado Buffaloes despite a late game su...rge by Shedeur Sanders and the Buffalo offense in the Big 12 showdown. Later, Unc and Ocho rip Oregon WR Traeshon Holden for getting ejected over spitting on an Ohio State player, New Orleans Saints DE Cam Jordan calls Drew Brees the GOAT and much more!03:18 - Show starts03:32 - Intro05:30 - CU loses to K State12:58 - Oregon beats Ohio State28:00 - Alabama v South Carolina32:42 - LSU v Ole Miss36:23 - Texas v Oklahoma43:26 - Penn State v USC53:00 - Tom Brady55:56 - Cam Jordan on Brees(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ocho, as I mentioned at the top, the Kansas State Wildcats go into Boulder, Colorado,
and come away with a victory.
38-21, Colorado down for much of the ballgame.
Found a way to take the lead late in the ballgame.
And when they needed a defense to get a stop, Ocho, they couldn't get it.
As the Kansas State go in, get a very tough, hard-fought victory, 31-28.
Tell me what you saw, what you liked and what you didn't like.
Man, listen, what I didn't like is them being at a disadvantage.
Colorado not having Brother Horn, not having Travis Hunter.
I think it put them behind.
They lost their three top receivers.
All went down.
Yeah. All three of them being gone and being behind the eight ball so early in the game
and still being able to be in it towards the end.
Obviously, as far as defense is concerned, not being able to get a stop when it was needed most.
But I think still having three of your top receivers down,
this is a testament that the fact that they were even still in the game
to Shador Sanders and some
of the defensive series that they
did have to keep them in the game
so towards the end, they were even
in the game to begin with. Because if this
was Colorado of old,
the game would have been over a long time ago.
So listen, I'm not
really trying to say it's a good thing
that they did lose,
but I do see the improvement.
Yeah, I see the proof in the pudding and them getting better
and still being able to compete without some of the top dogs,
even in the loss.
I saw some Ocho.
They couldn't stop the run in the first three quarters.
They did a better job late in the ball game.
I think they had 11, 12, 13 yards.
Ocho, you can't let a team run the ball like that on you.
I don't care what level of football you play.
If you can't stop the run, you can't win.
And again, another thing that I saw, Ocho, at early on,
they were bringing pressure to get to Shador.
Late in the ballgame, that was just four-man pressure.
That was just four guys.
And they weren't even bringing the extra man.
Early in the game, they were bringing the extra man.
They were bringing the extra guy, yeah.
You know what happened.
You know, as the game goes, you get to those late quarters.
Now, you know, them boys get tired now.
You get tired, you get lackadaisical, you get lackadaisical.
Your technique, you know, it squanders a little bit.
But, I mean, listen, they almost had it.
You know, kudos to the Oregon State.
I'm not sure about Oregon State.
Kudos, I don't know why I'm thinking I'm a goddamn alma mater.
Kudos to Kansas State.
I mean, it was a good game.
And the fact that the game was this late i think it was perfect because if it if it had been a
blowout i think everybody would have been pissed yes i'm i'm up past my goddamn bedtime but it was
a very exciting game i enjoyed it despite them losing it was good i'm mad i'm mad all the top three offensive weapons went out yeah but i
still think i i think uh they played well enough they had a lead because remember they went up they
went in front 28 to 24 so they ain't got nothing to do with offensive weapons so you got the lead
right now that comes down to your defense can i say something yeah even though it comes down
to defense think about the points
that would have been on the board if you did have those weapons think about if travis hunter was
there for that last series where they were where they threw that ball what do you think would
happen yeah i mean and he was there i'm just saying i'm thinking about the what ifs if they
were playing or if travis hunter was in i think it might be a 14-point difference or swing
as opposed to it being 28-24 and you go away with that win
because that might be an interception on that throw
that Brother Aby threw.
Yeah, that's probably a Trav side.
Yeah, well, it was.
That's who was taking Trav's place.
Yeah, I mean, you're up there in press coverage
and you open the gate.
I mean, why get in press coverage
if you're not going to put hands on people?
Yeah.
And that's what you're there for.
If you're not going to press back off,
you put yourself in a decided disadvantage
if you land up in press coverage.
Because think about it, Ocho.
You got a backpedal.
You open the gate, you get a guy free release.
Yeah.
Hey, unless you fast as all outdoors, you got to put your hands on him.
But like I said, I mean, I saw some things.
I'm glad they were able to get that corrected, that rush defense.
Right.
But then the pressure.
And so you started to see as the game started to wane
to go on, Ocho,
K-State felt they didn't need to bring
pressure, but they just, it was just
four men, and they did a lot of ETs
and TEs, which I mean,
tackle twist, tackle end twist, and it
was confusing the offensive linemen because they
were staying too long. Normally when you
see it coming, you shove the guy
onto the tackle, you shove him onto the guard,
and then you wait to catch the other
guy that's coming around. Right. And it
seems like they caused a lot
of problems, but Shadur ran himself
into a couple of problems also, Ocho,
because they had a twist one time late in the game
and he thought he could spin
up out of it, but bro, you spun
right into the way the back blocked him. Right into
the twist, yeah. Right into the way the back blocked it. Right into the twist, yeah.
Right into the way the guy blocked it.
Look, I know people are going to say, man, that last play, you got to live with it.
Because you know he likes to push
the ball down the field on the fourth
down play.
I'm sure people are thinking it should have been a pass interference.
I wouldn't have been upset.
They probably said, well, he probably couldn't catch the ball.
How many times you seen somebody make a catch?
You like, I don't know how he caught that.
So you don't get to determine what's a catchable ball or not,
because you don't know what a guy's capable of doing.
If they threw the flag, would I have been upset?
Like, oh, I don't think that's a PI, but they didn't.
So ain't no sense enough, you know,
believing a point now, Ocho.
The game is over. I just wish
the C.U.'s defense
could have got that stop right there. Yeah. Because I
think that win would have done a lot
because you went on the road, you beat UCF,
and now you
come home and you beat a ranked Kansas
State team. So that would have been a situation
where you can consolidate two quality wins.
Now, obviously,
UCF is falling on hard times,
but to string together, that's what
they need to do, Ocho. They need to
string together a couple of quality
wins to give them some
confidence.
But, you know, give Kansas State credit.
They didn't panic. They were in control of
this ballgame for pretty much the entirety of the ballgame, Mocho.
The quarterback throws a pick and gets a run back.
Hell, I thought he was going to run it back.
He kind of tripped over his own guy.
But lucky Shadu was able to get the ball into the end zone.
But for the most part, and then that last drive, he made big throw after big throw after big throw.
So give the guys credit.
They found a way to win the ball game.
And that's what you have to do when you're on the road.
Who does Colorado have next?
You talk about they need to string together some wins.
Is there a possibility that they can string together someone based on the
schedule so far?
Or you think it's going to be difficult?
They're in Arizona.
They're in Arizona or Arizona coming down?
They're in Arizona next week.
Okay. Okay.
That's a good one.
That's winnable.
It is.
The number three Oregon Ducks hit a 19-yard field goal
with just under two minutes remaining
and hold on to beat the number two Ohio State Buckeyes.
Lined up at the Ducks' 36-yard line with six minutes left,
the Buckeyes' final snap ended when quarterback Will Howard
scrambled up the middle.
Howard was 28-35, 326 in three touchdowns, one on the ground.
Dylan Gabriel had one of his best starts of his career
hitting 23 or 34 passes 341 yards three touchdowns of his own the two teams combined for 963 yards
of total offense ocho yes sir what is with these quarterbacks man i don't think he was thinking
about the situation oh okay what okay. What's the situation?
Situational awareness should have kicked in long before that to know you can't do that.
And that's, we just talked about this two weeks ago about a guy running out of bounds.
He wouldn't even throw the ball in the guy from Tennessee.
He ran out of bounds, Ocho.
Yeah.
This guy slides.
For what?
You do realize
you don't have the first down.
There's only like seven seconds
on the clock when you snapped it.
Let's get to the ball game.
A very exciting ball game. A back and forth
ball game. I mean,
this is what you expect to see
when two and three meet.
You know what?
I don't want me personally.
I don't want to see the second-ranked team blow out the number three team,
and I don't want to see the number three team blow out the number two team.
I want it to come down to the wire just like this.
This is what I want to see, what I see.
When I watch what's supposed to be two of the best teams in the country
lock horns, this is what I want to be two of the best teams in the country, lock horns.
Yeah.
This is what I want to see, Ocho.
Yeah.
I say when I first watched it, honestly, I'm just going to be honest with you.
I thought Ohio State was going to dominate.
I thought they were going to dominate the game strictly from a receiver standpoint
with the receiver they have and the quarterback they have.
I thought they were going to go in there and just run up and down the field
all willy-nilly, but it wasn't nothing like that.
It was nothing like that.
Oregon's defense surprised me, especially the front interior,
and the DBs played very well.
Obviously, there were some balls caught,
but I didn't see the receivers from Ohio State just go crazy like they normally do against everybody else.
Jeremiah Smith had had somewhat of a good game.
He's he's a man amongst men, even though he's a freshman.
Other than that, I mean, it was it was a it was a really, really good game.
Like you said, a good matchup between two and three.
I just thought it was going to be lopsided
and oregon oregon came to play some goddamn ball but they really did ocho these are the type of
games that oregon normally lose they play a bigger physical team yeah big guys up front that dominate
both the offense and defensive line these are the games that oregon normally lose But if you look at them, they ran the ball 31 rushes 155 yards. They threw
the ball at 23 completions
341 yards. That
lets me know that like, okay, they came
to play today. They're like, we
got to make a stand. And
they got, you know,
teams like Ohio State,
Michigan, they like to play bully ball.
And a lot of times, Oregon doesn't
get the type of offense and defense of
linemen.
These SEC
teams and the Big Ten, you talk
about Michigan and you talk about Ohio
State get, but today
they put on their big boy pants.
They put on their big boy pants and
they play big boy football and they
match the intensity that we
normally see because when we think of Pac-12 team, although Oregon is in the Big Ten now, we think finesse.
Yeah.
They play physical football today.
They buckle it up.
They fasten their chin straps and they came to play today, Ocho.
They play today.
And we don't normally see.
I'm watching Oregon get in big games today, and we don't normally see. I watch Oregon
get in big games like this, and
they normally went to bed. They did
not lay down today. They came to play,
and it's like, we're not
leaving this field without
a victory. Yeah, that defensive line
played very, very well. I'm not sure how to
pronounce his last name the right way,
but I think it was number 10. I think it's number
10 for Oregon. Either D-Tack, who d tackle with the dn but he played one hell of a goddamn game but he played
i don't want to say i don't want to say his name wrong but i don't want to be disrespectful
but young bull if you see this boy you're the real deal but i think he's more than two oh yeah
but see that's a lot of guys that's what they get a lot of uh amer But see, that's a lot of guys. They get a lot of America, Samoa.
They get a lot of Hawaiians.
They get a lot of that Samoa, those big Pinesse Sewell.
Yeah.
The Holodinatas and those guys.
They get guys like that.
Right, right.
And so normally they don't have enough of them.
It's not a problem.
They get one or two.
They need three, four, five, or six of them.
But they played the way they played today,
the way they ran the football today.
James had 23 for 115.
E. Stewart had seven for a buck 49.
And Dylan Gabriel, you see he jumped in the portal.
He was at Oklahoma last year, Ocho.
He came here.
They gave him the bag.
That's why teams are paying $750 to a million for a top-light quarterback
because that's the difference.
And you know what's good?
You know what would have been the head storyline?
Who would that?
If the Ducks would have lost, holding and getting ejected
for spitting at the OSU quarterback.
Ocho, what's going on with Ocho?
When did this happen?
Where the F did I go?
I mean, he lost his temperament.
Lost his temperament a little bit.
A little bit.
Especially in the game.
You can't do that.
You can't hurt your team.
You can't hurt yourself like that, for one.
No.
Damn the team.
I'd have hurt him.
He wouldn't have hurt the team.
I'd have hurt him.
Yeah.
I think I just grew up at a different time
right people would have beat you within an inch of your life for spitting on them do you understand
how disrespectful that is oh you talk about when you in your time they would still beat you with
okay okay i'm just making i'm just making sure i'm i'm i'm confused though because also i'm
start you starting to see an uptick right of of incidences like this
yes like it's cool no man no no i don't think they think it's cool i think
they don't they don't fear the consequences of doing so you know i maybe not in a football game
i'm just saying in general in life in in general, you know, during this era,
especially social media area where everything is recorded,
everything is for somewhat of attention.
But, you know, in this instance,
he needs to learn from this.
You can't do it.
You won't be able to do it at the next level.
He will play on Sundays,
but this is something him and his coach
will be able to talk about.
He'll look back and wish he hadn't done it.
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They need somebody, look.
They need to get their ass beat.
Ain't nothing, ain't nothing,
nothing. See, whipping somebody's ass, it jars their memory.
Oh, I ain't supposed to spit on something.
Bro, do you know how disrespectful that is, Ocho?
Yeah, yeah.
To spit on somebody.
I don't think people understand how disrespectful it's viewed and seen
as opposed back then when we were growing up.
I wonder if they still view it as bad.
Nah, they don't look at it because I can honestly say, Ocho,
in my time, that incident with Romo,
he was a teammate of mine that spent on J.J. Stokes.
I'd never seen that happen before in a game,
in a little league game, in Savannah State.
Like I said, man man i could have just imagined
bro i'm talking about somebody they will hurt you yeah and these kids now they think it's so cool
and what we're sharing you know a the motions nah motion go get somebody effed up that's what
emotions gonna get somebody man y'all stop this foolishness. Okay, somebody beat you.
Somebody scored a touchdown on you.
Somebody juked you out of your shoes.
Somebody blocked you.
Bro, stop that.
Man, you're going to get hurt.
You're going to catch the right person on the wrong day.
And uh-oh, and I'm sorry, ain't going to help your ass.
Right.
Man, y'all stop this, kids.
Y'all need to stop this.
Y'all need to, first of all, you need to learn some respect. Because I don ass. Man, y'all stop this, kids. Y'all need to stop this.
First of all, you need to learn some respect,
because I don't know who taught y'all.
That's rude.
Man, Porter and Barney, Porter didn't play that bull, John.
That's fitting.
Oh, hell no.
Yeah.
Man, please.
I was thinking to myself, I said, man, what are these kids?
What are they thinking? When did they think that was cool
yeah I don't think they think it's cool but times are different
times are different
kids are moving different
the music is different
I mean everything is different as opposed to how it was
obviously
when we grew up
it's just different in general
yeah but it just goes to show you because certain things you wouldn't even attempt You know, when we grew up, it's just different in general. Yeah.
But it just goes to show you because certain things you wouldn't even attempt.
Oh, no.
No.
Back then?
Absolutely not.
No.
Boy, it took an act of God and 10,000 soldiers to get me off his ass.
Man, don't do that.
Man, that is one of the most disrespectful acts that you can do to someone.
Hold on. It was to who?
An agnodon and 10,000 soldiers.
That's a good one.
Ocho, can you
just think about it, Ocho?
I want you to think about it.
You mad at somebody
and you like... Nah. That ain't what i'm thinking if i get mad at you i'm not thinking
that i'm not thinking about spitting on somebody because if you were to spit on somebody whatever
happens to you after that yeah i ain't got no problem with it. Right, right, right, right, right. That's how I operate. So whatever, whatever,
whatever
happens to you
after said act,
I rock with old boy.
Right. No matter what.
No matter what.
Man, that was excessive.
So was your act.
Y'all need to stop this. Y'all need to stop this. Yeah, that's a. So was your act. Mm-hmm. Y'all need to stop this.
Y'all need to stop this.
Yeah, that's a nasty one there, boy.
That's a nasty one.
Boy, that thing.
Woo!
Yeah, that thing.
Like I said,
like I said, Ocho,
I think the mindset,
because things that,
like calling somebody, like I said, Ocho, I think the mindset, cause things that like calling somebody,
like calling somebody to be word,
what growing up,
my grandfather,
the two things,
boy, don't you spit on somebody and don't you kick somebody?
Cause he was big.
He said,
boy,
your feet made for walking.
Yeah.
You say,
son,
you wouldn't need kick a dog.
So you put your feet on somebody you
telling them they're a dog or worse right he didn't play that if you want if you want to get
your ass tore up let somebody come in the house and say that oh shannon kick me or kick even even even playing around Ocho
no
that man did not play that
he was very very
big on respect
he demanded it
so he said look
you don't kick people
you don't spit on people
above all else you keep your hands to yourself
that's how he was
he preached that to us
he told his daughters
hey don't you hit no man
he said because if you hit a man
a man gonna forget that you're a female
because he said you're trying to challenge him
he said you acting like a man
he gonna treat you like one
now a man hit you you come tell me and I deal with him.
Or your brothers will deal with him.
Learn that very own.
I ain't putting my hands on nobody's daughters because I got daughters.
I ain't going to put my hands, I don't spit on nobody.
I ain't nobody will ever tell you, will ever tell you,
Shannon Sharp kicked him. Well, I did kick, I tried to spit on nobody. I ain't nobody will ever tell you, will ever tell you, Shannon Sharp kicked him.
Well, I did try to kick Winston Moss.
I tried to kick him in the head.
Tried to kick him in the heaven.
Because he got a bad.
I got a pass on him, Ocho.
And he got up.
Man, you know how you get up off the ground, Ocho?
Yeah.
This ninja got up off the ground on my helmet.
Oh, he pushing off for you to get up.
Oh, my helmet with my head.
Yes.
Hold on.
With your head on the floor.
Yeah.
My head was on.
Yes.
Man.
Man, I try.
Boy, I try to kick him so hard.
But.
Man, these kids, they just. It's a different time. Oh time mojo i'm glad i haven't got enough i'm glad
i haven't got enough out the way i'm glad i haven't got enough out the way whoo alabama
survives against the carolina game cox 27 25 alabama made a lot of made a late defensive
stance and held off the game co 27-25. There were several signs
of concern, including
whoo!
They were up 14, Carolina scored
19 straight, the Bureau of Washington, but
has not translated well to the
physicality and style of playing the SEC.
Yeah.
But beating the game, Cox keeps the Tide alive
in the SEC Championship and a playoff
berth.
Listen, But beating the game card keeps the Tide alive in the SEC championship and a playoff berth. Yes, sir.
The Alabama that I'm used to watching, when I am watching college football
or I have the opportunity to watch Alabama, it's missing.
That mystique, that aura, that utter domination on both sides of the ball,
not only in the interior, in the secondary as well.
When I look at Alabama, I normally see players that are going to play on Sundays, not just any play. I'm talking about
players that are going to be superstars, players that can change the dynamic and the trajectory
of a franchise in the NFL. I just don't see that right now. I don't see that right now.
And a team like Alabama shouldn't be struggling like this.
I'm not saying the opponents that they're playing at a school that they're playing are inferior.
I'm just saying I think other schools have caught up in terms of having the same type of talent.
Everything that the, how do you say, the even, the playing field is even.
It is even tremendously
where they just can't dominate like they
once did. Yeah,
they can't run the football.
Jalen Monroe has to understand
Ocho. He doesn't have a defense that's good
enough to overcome the
turnovers. The mistakes, yeah.
Yeah, he had another two turnovers
today that put them in harm's way.
I mean,
he was 16-23 for 209,
a touchdown, but he had two
turnovers. Not good.
He had 18 rushes for 36
yards, two touchdowns,
but they can't run the football,
Ocho. 38 carries,
104 yards. That's not Alabama.
You know what they can do?
What?
They can drop back and throw the ball to Ryan Williams every play.
Well, that would be good if they could protect him every play,
which they can't.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
That's the problem with them.
They gave up two, three, four.
They gave up four sacks, nine tackle for losses.
That's the quickest way
to get your beat, Ocho.
But look,
South Carolina's better
than you think.
Remember, they went
to the last play of the game.
They had LSU on the ropes.
LSU just beat
number nine, what, Ole Miss?
Ole Miss, yeah.
So, Carolina's a little better
than their, you know,
their record is 3-3.
But they could have easily won this game,
and they could have easily beaten LSU.
But this is not the Alabama.
Look, we saw some things that caused us calls for pause,
even in a win against Georgia.
They were up, what, 30-7?
Yeah.
And Georgia ends up
coming all the way back and taking the lead
if only for, you know,
one play.
They took the lead and the next day, you know,
Alabama comes out, the next
possession and
75-yard strike to Ryan Williams.
But, yeah, this is not
the Alabama we're used to seeing. The physicality
on both sides of the line, offense and defensive line, they don't dominate the Alabama we're used to seeing. The physicality on both sides of the line,
offense and defensive line,
they don't dominate consistently like we're used to seeing.
Right.
I think the left tackle is really good.
I think Proctor, I think the left tackle,
he's probably going to be a high draft pick, Ocho.
But it's not what we're used to seeing.
And you're playing the SEC, bro.
You got to be physical. Very. You got to be physical. Very, you got to be physical.
You got to be physical. Ain't no way that finesse. Nah, bro.
You got to be physical. You can have some razzle dazzle, but you better have,
Hey, but you better have them boys on that offensive defensive line that can
move, that can move some people.
And right now they're not doing that on a consistent enough basis.
They're they're five and
one they still have a a chance to get to the SEC championship uh for a birth in a college football
playoffs but they got a tough test again next week they're on the road in Knoxville we hey boy that's
gonna be a good one so this is one of those games like we talked about last week or maybe was it
week before last about the atmosphere yes oh yeah so it a week before last, about the atmosphere? Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They'll have 100,000 in there easy.
Oh, for sure.
Absolutely.
Alabama?
Oh, yeah.
That's going to be a good one. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Number 13, LSU rallies to beat number nine,
Ole Miss, 29-26 in overtime.
Nussmeyer threw a big game-tying touchdown pass
to Aaron Anderson in the final
seconds of Revelation, then hit Kyron Lacey
for a 25-yard scoring
strike on the first play of LSU's
first play of overtime, completing
the stunning comeback victory
over number nine Mississippi.
LSU, look,
that first game, Brian Kelly blamed everybody except Brian Kelly.
Right.
And they've been kind of living on the edge the last couple of weeks.
But the mark of a team, good team, is find ways to win.
And that's what they've been able to do the last couple of weeks.
So they keep finding ways to win.
Yeah. what they've been able to do the last couple of weeks. They keep finding ways to win.
22 of 51.
Three touchdowns for
Nussmeier. He did have
the two interceptions.
But
Ole Miss should have won this game.
They should have put this game away, but they keep...
Ocho, you know what happens. Let a team
hang around long enough. Long enough. And they'll find a way
to beat you. Give them too much confidence yep um he had two receivers over 100 yards uh lee had nine for
buck 32 harris had seven for 102 um but like i said you left him around long enough and had 84
total plays 84 total plays uh well lsu passed the ball 22 or 51 337 three touchdowns two
interceptions but you know give lsu credit look they got talent oh yeah they got that
they got talent you gotta find a way to put it all together though yeah yeah if they find a way
to put it all together like that let's let's say that 2019 lsu now i don't think they had that
kind of talent 2019 not like that but a whole lot of college teams ocho had that kind of talent in
the history you got to go back you got no you got to go back to miami yeah yeah yeah you got to go
back to that usc team when they had ronnie lot and they had marcus allen and they had you know uh uh
who else was on that team um dennis smith you know they had lynn kane they had Marcus Allen and they had, you know, who else was on that team?
Dennis Smith, you know, they had Lynn Kane.
They had all those guys on that team.
You got to go back to find teams like that before you are.
The old Miami, when they had Danny Stubbs and Jerome Brown and Testa Birdie and High Smith and Irvin, they've had all those guys.
They had a whole lot of teams that had that guy,
especially offensive talent.
Now, offensive talent, you talk about a number one overall quarterback,
a top five wide receiver, a top 20 wide receiver in Jefferson.
You had, who else?
Clyde Edwards-Alaire.
Yeah.
Who else was on that?
What was the other guy?
I think he ended up going to Carolina.
So they had three receivers drafted, two in the first round.
Your quarterback goes number one of all.
Your running back goes in the first round.
You had the best offensive line in football.
No, there hadn't been a whole lot of teams.
Now, LSU don't have that kind of talent.
Hell no.
Not even close.
Not even close.
Hell no.
But. kind of talent. Hell no. Not even close. Not even close. Hell no. But
they
got more talent than you think they got.
Yeah.
Wow. Somebody had
18 total
tackles, 10 solo.
Wow. Very, very funny.
Sack, tackle for loss?
Go ahead.
No, I was getting ready to talk about another game, but I don't
think we didn't get to it yet. I'll wait
until we get there.
Oh, okay. We got
okay. It wasn't a pretty performance,
especially for the rocky first quarter, but the number one
Texas Longhorns took their of business won 34-3 over the rival the red rebel shootout um
30-43 number 16 oklahoma to remain the only unbeaten the only unbeaten team in sec the
longhorns got off to a slow start saturday with more penalty yards 15 than that offensive yards
13 in the first quarter.
Quinn Ewers was sacked in the first play,
the game's first play, then intercepted two plays later.
Ewers finished with 199 passing yards and ran through a touchdown,
while the running game earned 177 yards on 30 carries.
Texas held the soonest to 234 yards,
3.4 yards per play,
with a good chunk of that yardage coming
when the game was already well,
well, well, well out of hand.
Texas
planted a longhorn flag through the
Oklahoma-Baker-Mayfield jersey.
No love lost, Ojo,
in the Red River rivalry.
Listen, it's supposed to be
a rivalry, right?
At the beginning, it felt like a rivalry, but as the game went on and kept going on, it was supposed to be a rivalry, right? Yeah. At the beginning, it felt like a rivalry.
But as the game went on and kept going on, it was lopsided.
It was one-sided.
So I was sitting there with excitement, had my cigar, had my little coffee.
I say, okay, Quinn, yours is back.
You know, Oklahoma.
Let me see what this rivalry is all about.
Well, Oklahoma. Let me see what this rivalry is all about. Well, hell.
It really wasn't much of a rivalry based on what I saw.
Nah.
Oklahoma ain't what it was.
At the beginning, Oklahoma put up a good fight.
I said, okay, we got a game.
Oh, we got a game.
And as time went on, man, it was nothing like that.
It wasn't a snooze fest. It wasn't a snooze fest.
It wasn't a snooze fest, but it was enjoyable to watch Brother Edwards,
Ewers, Ewers work, being back from injury.
You know, despite the turnovers, you got to fix that,
especially if you have to play an even better team,
you won't be able to overcome those mistakes.
But it was, eh, it's't be able to overcome those mistakes.
It's not what I thought it would be.
They beat Texas defense.
The way they sold it to me,
it wasn't what I thought
it was going to be.
It is a rivalry. They've been
playing each other probably for over 100
years, but Texas
is really,
really good.
Especially that damn defense. They're really, really good. Yeah.
Especially that damn defense. They're really, really good. Sark has done a great
job. He understands
in order to compete for national championships,
being around Coach Saban, he knows the type
of player that he needs to get.
He's a great offensive mind.
If you're a wide
receiver,
quarterback, running back, you're going to run a pro style
offense he's going to help get
you prepared to go play in the NFL
and so
this is the best team that I've seen
in the SEC
but guess what
they got the Bulldogs coming to town next week
in Austin
hold on George ain't been looking too
bright they self tonight.
No, no, no, no.
But you know what, Ocho?
It used to be
you played defense in the SEC.
Right.
But now if you can't score points,
you can't win.
Right.
And the days of
the way Alabama played defense
and they would hold you down
and you score 10 points.
That's over.
Yeah.
That's over.
You better go win these games 41 to 34.
You better win some games 38-31, 38-35, Ocho.
Them 20 to 10s.
Yeah.
And day's over.
That's over.
That's over.
The game's too wide open.
It's too wide open right now, Ocho.
And so – and it ain't coming back.
It ain't coming back.
Texas is just better right now than Oklahoma.
Brent Venable better be real careful.
Because they got Bob Stoose up out of there.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It ain't good enough to win eight, nine games.
Some programs, it's not good enough to win eight, nine games.
Right.
You need to challenge for national championships.
You need to be winning 12 and 13 games.
Well, you know, in order to do that, you know what you need, man.
You know what you need.
Y'all be your boosters.
Y'all better come on, come on, man.
Yeah.
Well, they'd have a better chance.
But when Gabriel, Dylan Gabriel, Oregon quarterback,
he was at Oklahoma last year, Ocho.
Right.
You know, hey, that Nike money.
You know, hey, $750 to $1 million for a quarterback.
For a 19, 20-year-old kid.
Can you imagine if you was getting NIL back when you was 19?
Yeah.
75 a month, 85 a month.
Boy,
listen.
But yeah,
when you look at it,
Ocho,
Texas is just better.
Yeah.
Ain't no way,
you left that game
saying,
you know what,
Oklahoma,
we ain't even mad at you.
Right.
It's just better than we are.
Yeah. It's just better than we are. Yeah.
It's just better, Ocho.
Sometimes you have to open your mouth and say that.
Mm-hmm.
Or as we say, mouth.
M-O-U-F, mouth.
Be honest about it.
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Penn State kicker Ryan Barker
converted a 36-yard field goal
in overtime to beat USC 33-30,
keeping the number four Penn State
undefeated season alive.
Tyler Warren caught 17 passes for 224 yards, tying an FBS record for most catches by a tight end in
the game and posting the second most receiving yards in school history. Lincoln Riley took
responsibility for the Trojans blowing a 14-point halftime lead with the Trojans falling.
In 3-3, Riley said they have a chance to win all six games
despite playing one of the hardest schedules in the country.
Hell, you had an opportunity to win all six of the first games you played.
Oh, yeah.
To put yourself in a position to win these games is freaking hard to do
to begin with.
I get it.
We have to do a better job at the end of games.
I'll have to do a better job.
We've got to be able to finish, and
all that falls on my shoulders. That's
why they call me head coach.
That's nice to hear a coach
taking accountability
and not blaming on anybody else.
But most of the time, it does happen
more often in college as opposed to the NFL.
Yeah.
I mean, look, you got a 14-point lead.
Ain't nothing in college.
Oh, no.
Not with the way they throwing the ball.
You get one three and out.
You get one three and out.
Another team get the ball.
Before you know it, they don't throw it.
It's a tie ball game.
Yeah.
Now you got a ball game.
But what I don't understand, Ocho,
at some point in time, you know the guy cooking.
You got to make some adjustments.
Y'all just going to let the guy just keep catching the ball?
Well, you know what's funny when you talk about making adjustments?
Sometimes you don't have the personnel to stop the person that's actually cooking.
I'm going to stop him.
I can't stop.
I'm going to stop him.
Right.
I'm going to make him.
Ocho, the guy had, okay, he had 17.
He had more catches by himself than the rest of the team had to combine.
Combine.
He had 224.
The next close was 53, then 39, then 33, then 26.
I'm going to make somebody that had 53, 39, or 33.
I'm going to let them get some of them yards.
Right.
Because I know the tight end killing me.
Let's see if somebody
else can beat us.
But at least try Ocho Del.
Listen, that's
what I said. Sometimes you ain't got the personnel.
The adjustments you want to make, you're trying
to make them. You know you can't make them because you understand
what you got on your side.
And that individual sometimes is just that special
where you can only
hope to contain them,
but she ain't stopping.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was,
uh,
that was not a good look.
Uh,
the Ant and Lynn,
uh,
came over from UCLA.
I wasn't doing their UCLA and they paid him a lot of money.
Yeah.
I've been,
no,
I know,
I know the kid when he was a little bit bigger than
Christian McCaffrey I played with his dad
Anthony Lynn
so
and I thought after what they did over the
didn't they beat LSU I think they beat LSU
over the night when they made
that was LSU yeah
and I was like okay defense
but it's the same thing Ocho
the defense sucks again it's the same thing, Ocho. The defense sucks again.
It's sucking again.
I mean, and I don't know what Lincoln Riley got to do
because his defense sucked at Oklahoma.
That's what got him beat.
I mean, when you think about college football,
especially today in this era,
are defenses really that good? think about college football, especially today in this era, are
defenses really
that good
in general?
In general.
They're not dominating.
They're not suffocating.
Keeping teams from scoring, you might
be lucky to score 14.
You're just not getting that
anymore.
Everybody putting up 30,
40-something goddamn points every
goddamn week. You ain't shutting up.
First of all, the likelihood,
I mean, like the Georgia defense,
I don't know if we're going to see that again.
When they was holding people to 10 points, 12 points
before the season. Do you know how difficult
that is? Do you know how much
talent you have to have on your team to be able
to hold another collegiate
team, the 10, the 12
points a game?
Yeah.
It ain't happening anytime soon.
But, well, you can do
it if you got seven, eight first
rivals on your defense like Georgia had.
Oh yeah, most definitely.
You get Walker,
who's the first overall pick, and then you get
Jalen Carter, you get
Jordan Davis, and you get Nicole B. Dean,
and you get all those first round picks
that they took. Green Bay got like two of
them on their roster. That's seven.
He ended up getting
cut, but he was a first round pick so they had like
six or seven first rounders on defense
yeah you can do that
but how many teams how many teams gonna have six
seven first rounders
it ain't likely I mean
but today
you can get you about six or seven first rounders
depending on how much you willing to pay for
right well I mean you
you might have a situation where you get like,
you get like the Bosa brothers and you get,
what's the other guy named?
He was the commanders and he was the 49ers.
Now he's with the Saints.
I mean, you know, you had those D, the string of defensive men.
You had Nick Bosa.
From Ohio State.
Yeah, yeah.
Ohio State, all those D linemen.
Yeah.
That come out of there.
But yeah, it's hard, O Ocho to go in there and say okay we're going to
shut this team down nah
y'all hold them and let us get a couple
extra possessions against them so we get up
14 and that way when they
get hot we already up
and we just go score for score after
that but the likelihood of
you just shutting a team down?
Nah.
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Today's top 10 results.
Texas, 34.
Oklahoma, 3. The number 3, three oregon ducks take down the number
two ohio state buckeyes 32 31 field goal with under two minutes what's the difference in the
ball game the number five georgia bulldogs take down mississippi state bulldogs 41 31
the canes miami was on a buy alab Alabama survives 27-25 over the South Carolina Gamecocks.
Tennessee win 23-17 over the Gators.
LSU, touchdown, first possession of overtime.
Number 13, LSU, 29.
Number nine, Ole Miss, 26.
And Clemson Tigers seem to have found their footing.
49-14
over the Wake Forest Demon Deacons.
Oh, Joe,
which game do you feel
had the biggest playoff implication
tonight?
Oh, let me see.
The biggest playoff implications?
Oh, The biggest playoff implications.
Maybe that Oregon-Ohio State?
No.
No.
I would say LSU-Ole Miss because both of those teams
would have had with about five-6 games left 2 losses
already
I don't believe it
LSU only has 1 loss right
but if they had a loss
oh if they would have lost
that's why it had such a playoff implication
because think about how many games you got left
and you already got 2 losses
because look at Oregon
Oregon doesn't have
Oregon or Ohio State have a loss.
You know you're right. They were both undefeated.
They were both undefeated. So even if they lose,
Ocho, they're not going to fall out of the top 10.
LSU, you're going to probably drop
maybe to like 19, 20.
Ole Miss, you're going to free fall.
Because you just had a horrible loss just last week.
You know what I should have did?
I should have went Alabama,South Carolina. Because if
Alabama had won, which almost
happened. No, if they'd have lost, you mean.
I mean, if they would have lost,
they would have had two losses.
I don't know. Knowing
the way FBS
does the whole, they was going to
squeeze them in any goddamn way.
No, because Alabama still has to go on the road
to LSU. They got to go on the road
to Tennessee.
They still got Auburn, which is, you know,
the Iron Bowl.
It can get ugly.
It definitely would have been doomsday.
But again, another thing,
Ocho, guess what? That's two losses.
Yeah. And then they'd have been back
to back. I guess
unranked teams. Yeah. So, absolutely. That would definitely not have been back to back against unranked teams so
absolutely that would definitely not
have been good for them
Ocho
Tom Brady's long path to becoming a
minority stake owner in the
Las Vegas Raiders are finally at the
finish line the NFL's finance
committee has reviewed Brady's bid
and plans to bring it to other franchise
owners for a vote Tuesday fall meetings in Atlanta.
Brady will need at least 24 of the league's owners, 24 to 32 league's owners, to vote affirmative.
According to Adam Schefter, the committee will not bring Brady's ownership to stake a vote if it wasn't sure it would be approved.
If and when Brady is approved, he will be the new owner of
approximately 10% of the Raiders
as part of a group.
Yeah, because that'll take up all his
little money.
Oh, yeah.
Because I think the thing is,
Joe, is that these franchises,
you saw the
Commanders go for $6 billion.
Yeah.
10% of $6 billion
is $600 million.
And you know who.
That was
that's a simple math.
Do you understand how much money these folk
have, man?
Yeah.
We sit here, we look at athletes' contracts
and we look at the huge numbers.
And do we,
do we,
I wonder if people like actually understand when you think about it to them,
to the ones,
if they,
if we make that much,
imagine how much the owners make,
imagine how much the people that own the team,
the minority owners, the majority owners.
The numbers are crazy when you sit back and think about it.
I think people really don't.
It's mind-boggling.
So I don't know what the Raiders are worth.
Hell, I think, what you call them, I think Davis is a minority.
He's the majority owner. worth. Hell, I think, what you call them, I think Davis is a minority. He's the majority owner, but he doesn't
own it all like, you know, say
like the
McCaskies.
Virginia McCaskie, I think her and her son
who's
Coach Hallison, that's his daughter.
Right. Or, you know,
the Lions, the
Fords. The Fords.
Yeah. Because I think he turned it over to
her dad or to her daughter. I think
her daughter runs it now because
the Ford, see,
that's how you're married. Ford
married a Firestone era. So
we got a car. We need tires. Boom.
There we go. We rolling down the road. See what I did
on Joe? We rolling.
Hey, that was a good one.
That's what
happened. He married
the Ford.
William Clay,
Mr. Ford, he married
the Firestone daughter.
So, we got tires.
You got cars. We got tires. Let's do this.
We good. We good. That's all.
That ain't nothing but business, man.
Keep it business, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cam Jordan believes that the greatest quarterback of all time is Drew Brees,
not Tom Brady.
Jordan shared his hot take on Armond St. Brown's podcast saying,
Drew Brees is the best quarterback of all time.
There's nobody who has the completion percentage that Drew has.
There's nobody that has the five,
most 5,000 yard season that Drew has.
It took Tom Brady an extra two years to break Brees record.
If you're talking about accomplishments,
yes,
Tom Brady.
But if you want to look at stats,
uh,
Pat,
your stats,
okay,
put your stats because Drew got those.
When he left, there were so many records, so many that he owned. Now your stats. Okay, put your stats because Drew got those.
When he left, there were so many records, so many that he owned.
Now after Tom retired, Tom Brady played another two years and broke most of them, I believe.
I like the argument.
I like the argument.
You taking Drew over Peyton?
Hell no.
Hell no. I mean, listen, i love the argument this cam doing he's going to take a forest quarterback you know i like that then we talk about drew being still one of the best yes all time yeah no matter
what but now we're comparing them to the greatest of all time so now So now you got a little bit too much dip on your chip. Cam?
Yeah. I love you. I love you.
I love you. He's holding
on with his guy. I love how you can find ways to
try to put your
quarterback
in a
shadow light to where you feel he's better than
Tom Brady. But that's just not the case, no matter
how you try to splice it. No matter what
numbers you use, no matter what percentages
you may use, Tom Brady's
the best to ever play. There's not, I don't
know if there's ever going to be a situation
where
voters,
people, put
Drew over Tom or Peyton.
I just don't see a scenario. Hold on, if he's
talking about voters, people, who else
would? Now, I'm just saying, I don't see a scenario where, you know If you talk about voters, people, who else would? I'm just saying, I don't see a scenario where you're like...
Right.
Yeah, that's what I think.
Yeah.
And it's not a bad thing.
No.
Drew's still one of the best of all time.
Yes, I agree.
You're comparing him to the greatest of all time.
Yeah.
So then there's a little bit of disconnect.
Your Wi-Fi, it ain't got all the goddamn bars right i agree but i i think
had and you look at drew's completion percentage you look at those 5 000 yard season
had he had more super bowl appearances yeah now we can have an argument. He has two. He has an MVP.
Right.
Now we can have an argument.
But with one Super Bowl appearance, one Super Bowl MVP.
Not enough.
Yeah.
I don't know how we get there, Ocho.
And he had, like I said, the completion percentage.
I think what he completes, 70% of his passes.
He had four or five, 5,000 yard seasons.
And, you know, yeah, he had four or five, 5,000 yard seasons. And yeah, you know,
yeah,
he did have, um,
what,
uh,
uh,
y'all passing yardage.
I think he might've had the touchdown record,
but you need,
you needed a few more.
I mean,
let's just say he has three or he has two or three.
Let's just say he has two Superbowls,
three MVPs.
That was like,
okay.
I don't think he quite did this, Ocho,
but I can see what people will say.
Like Tom has seven Super Bowls,
five Super Bowl MVPs.
Right.
He has five, yeah, five.
And three regular season MVPs. Right. He has five, yeah, five. And three regular season MVPs.
Peyton has five regular season MVPs,
two Super Bowl appearances with two different teams,
and a Super Bowl MVP.
But he has four appearances.
So he went two with the Colts, two with the Broncos.
Yeah.
So you're like, okay.
I think Drew
would need
something like that
in order.
Would need something like that
for us. But I get, look,
that's your teammate. I got to rock my teammate.
Yeah, always. Because they ask me,
well, who do you want to be your quarterback, John?
Man, why do you say it?
Because I got Super Bowls with John and I got a gold jacket with John.
I mean, what y'all want me to say?
Right.
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