Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Colorado squeaks by, Ceedee Lamb gets paid, Josh Allen Overrated?

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Deion Sanders and Colorado barley beating North Dakota State, San Francisco 49ers WR Brandon Aiyuk and Dallas Cowboys WR CeeDee Lamb signing massive contract extensions, Cincinnati Bengals WR Ja'Marr Chase holding in, and much more!03:30 - Show Starts04:47 - Colorado beats NDSU13:37 - Brandon Aiyuk gets paid20:00 - Cowboys extend Ceedee Lamb33:00 - Bengals won’t Pay Chase45:00 - Kadevious Tony54:45 - Josh Allen overrated?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Shador Sanders, 26-34. 445 yards, four touchdowns, one interception. Travis Horn had seven catches for $1.98. Travis Hunter, seven catches, $1.32. And three tubs. They win the game. But I saw a lot of the things that I saw last year, Ocho. Yeah, a little bit.

Not as much. Not as much. Obviously, North Dakota State is no slouch. They've beaten some very, very good teams throughout the years. There have been many upsets that they've had when they have played. There was no slouch. So for Colorado, this is a good game for them to start with, to get a test based on the players and the recruits that have come in, the players that have transferred to see where they have improved and gotten better than last year.

Of course, there would be some mistakes. Some of the things that we witnessed last year would still creep in a little bit. But I think this is good study film and study tape on where they need to continue to improve. Now, where I think Colorado improved best is in the interior, on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. The skill position, you know, Horn and Travis Hunter did what they did. But to me, more impressively is Shador Sanders. His calmness in the pocket, his pocket presence. He's really not much of a dual threat, but what he was able to do from the pocket extending plays

when he could and having Horn and Travis Hunter finish the deal off on the receiving end of the ball was good. I don't know, Ocho. They still can't generate pressure. And when they bring pressure, they're not gap sounds.

That's why the quarterback hit his head on the goal post late in the ball game. We saw on the Hail Mary, you're taught to knock it down. What did the guy try to do? Interception? And the guy ends up letting the guy catch it. The ball's in the end zone. I have a question, but one thing about

it though. Now you say the guy hit his head on the goal post. If you think about it, in the second half, the Colorado defense, they played extremely well outside of that one drive. They held North Dakota State to really not much or nothing in the second half outside of that series towards the end of the game where it really wasn't significant. But what I wanted to see, I thought this year, Ocho, they were going to be able to get up there. I thought they would be able to get up still disciplined. You have you have to feel what do you do? You have to feel on Thursday, you line up offside.

What happens? You stop them and Shiloh late hits the guy. It's the same thing. That was last year, the undisciplinedness. If you're trying to win, the one thing you can't do is beat yourself. And I'm sure time is telling them, guys guys we can't yeah as you go up now look north dakota state we know what they represent at the level of with the fcs in which the level they play at they're one of the premier teams in all of fcs in the history of that of that division

right you into a conference is it bro these teams are are going to be better than North Dakota State. It just didn't work out. And you can't make those silly mistakes that you made against this team. I thought, okay, you know what? I'm sure time is preaching, guys. We can't beat ourselves. Guys, they brought Sapp in, one of the premier D-liners in NFL

history, to be able to rush four and get home with four without having to sacrifice your back end by bringing extra guys. Well, they can't get there. They can't consistently get there. They've got to sacrifice and then guys lose their responsibility and guys are running free. You just can't, that's just,

you just can't have that if you want to get to where you get to. Yeah. You take the win, but I always say that. You heard me say it all the time. You never accept anything in a win. You wouldn't in a loss. When you're accepting a loss. Yeah.

But listen, you're right. But you have to understand it's week one. Everybody's back. They're not really settled in. Everybody back to playing football against an opponent, not yourselves.

So they're going to be mistakes. There are going to be good things. There are going to be bad things. There are going to be things that you can correct. There can be things that you can build off based on the game tonight. Now, as the competition continues to get better week to week, that means the margin for error becomes that much smaller with the better teams you're going to play.

Now, again, I'm going to say that North Dakota State is no slouch. They were a good team to open up with, to see where you are as a team offensively defensively and special teams and where the coaches and the staff can do a better job from their perspective you know depending on who you play but i mean i think it would to me the eye test based on what i saw i think it was a good outing and a good start for prime and the Buffs. And I'm shit hell. I look forward to who they plan next. I think it's Nebraska. That's going to be

another good test. They had 49 yards rushing. What couldn't they do last year? Run the football. And when you can't run the football, what does that do? That put pressure on your offensive line? And your quarterback. What happened last year?

Shador took too many hits. If you can't run the football 49 yards on 23 carries. What am I going to do with that, Ocho? In college football? Where they're holding the size of an 18-wheeler? Yeah, most of the time. What am I supposed to do in college?

What am I supposed to do with two yards a carry, Ocho? Yeah. I mean, Shador yeah most of the time yeah what am i supposed to do in college what am i supposed to do with two yards of carry hotel yeah i mean should i mean should do it basically and and trav had to stand on the heads tonight trav had to catch everything look at the look at the catches that he was making yeah hey hold on how about the one on the goal yeah when the dude with the dude mushing his face mask for the third touchdown and he still caught it. Even the second touchdown when the ball was kind of slugging down, he caught it and got both feet down. Even on the third down, he ran an override.

He made an outstanding catch on that. They're going to have to get better at running the football. You can't put that kind of pressure on your offensive line. You can't put that kind of pressure on your quarterback by having 49 yards rushing, averaging two yards of carry. You're not going to win on that. You're going to be in the same situation because as you step up

and we saw what happened, as they stepped up in talent level against teams, Chador started taking a pounding. They're just going to have to do a better job. They've got to get better. They went and got 42 new guys, a lot of guys out of the transfer portal. They had guys leave via the transfer portal, but this isn't good enough.

In order to be and to get to where they want to be, Ocho, this isn't good. Look, I ain't trying to be Debbie Downer. I'm trying to be realistic with you fans. I just can't keep it a buck with you. And y'all know how I feel about time, but this isn't nearly good enough. And I understand it's the first game, but what I needed to see, I didn't see nearly enough. I saw Shador do this last year.

I saw Horn do this last year. I saw Travis Hunter do this last year. But guess what? I saw them not be able to run the football. I saw Shador have to run and make plays with his legs. I saw the defense not be able to consistently get off the field, especially on third downs. That'll get you in trouble.

You know the most important down is third down. So you do a great job stopping on first and second, and then when you get to third down, okay, it's first down again. Eventually, Ocho, you know what happens. You let a team go 50% on third down. You start letting the team get 60% on third down. You're asking for it. Oh, yeah, that's demoralizing it. That's demoralizing now.

That is very demoralizing. Again, the adjustments are going to have to be made on the defensive side of the ball and I'm sure they're going to get that. They're going to do that. And that's the great thing about the season. That's the great thing about even at any level of football. It's about getting

the kinks out, getting the film out, going back, watching it and seeing what you can do better and improve the week to week. That's all you can do. There are definitely teachable moments in this where you can say, look guys, we were off the field on third down and we lined up offside. Yeah.

We're off the field on third down and we get a late hit. Those are the things that are coachable. And you just like, Hey guys, we can't have this. We've got to be a sound. We got to be a sound, we've got to be a physically sound football team.

Let's play hard-nosed football. Let's get at them in the trenches. Hey, let them know they're in a fight, but we're not going to do anything that costs us, because it's already difficult to win a game, but when you give a team extra possessions, when you give a team silly penalties,

now you're setting yourself up for failure and you're asking to get beat. Ocho, now it's time for our next segment, News Cap. News Cap. No matter what. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

The staring contest came to an end today, Ocho. When the Niners and Brandon Aiyuk agreed to a four-year deal worth $120 million, a deal that would keep them in San Francisco through the 2028 season. Aiyuk accepted the same deal that had been on the table since August 12th. San Francisco will enter the 2024 season as the only team with eight players earning an average salary of at least $15 million or more. You have Nick Bosa earning $34 million. Brandon Ayuk earning $30 million. Debo, $23.8 million.

Trent Williams, $23 million. He's holding out. Javon Hargrave, $21 million. Fred Warner, $19 million. Christian McCaffrey, $19 million. George Kittle, 15 million. In 2023, Brandon Ayuk had a breakout season, leading the Niners in receiving yards, 1,342,

while finishing ninth in the NFL in receiving yards per game, almost 84 yards a game. He was second in yards per catch, 17.9, and first in yards per target, 12.9. He was second team all pro. His return means the Niners could have the same 11 starting on offense from last year as soon as they get

Big Trent back into the fold. Ocho, what do you think about this? That's a great thing. That's a great thing for you because I understand how pivotal he is at offense. Obviously, Debo is good at what Debo does, who I consider a Swiss army knife in that offense, being able to do multiple things from the slot.

I don't really see him much as an outside receiver that can kind of get open on the muscle. I see that as Ayuk and what Ayuk does very well. He can also move to the inside and do dicey and create mismatches in that way. Another important factor, outside of the signing of Brandon, I, you can understand how good he is and how efficient he is,

how important he is to the offense and Brock Purdy, Trent Williams. You got to get him in. Trent Williams. Trent Williams is one. I thought who would have gotten his deal first before Brandon. I use, because I think they can miss some games without I,

you get receiver and they can find that production somewhere else. Maybe not as efficient as IU, but missing the best left tackle in the game, you know, week one or week two can, can hurt you a little bit because there's a huge drop off without having big trend in there. Now we talk about the best tackle in the game,

really solidifying the blind side of the quarterback, but I'm happy. I, you got his money. He was very, very deserving of it. I don't like the fact that you missed so much time in training camp because now you have to go from zero to 100 miles an hour with not much time to prepare for week one.

But it is what it is. And I'm happy for young Bull. I'm happy for him. And the continuity. The continuity of keeping that damn offense together makes it that much easy for Shanahan and that offense hell and the entire team to make another run to make it down there to new Orleans again. Well,

I think the thing is with Trent is that you could always slide a protection away from him knowing he can take the best rusher and neutralize it every time. You don't have to worry about sliding to help Trent. Trent got this. And so now you take your back, you take the offensive line, you slide in a different direction and now you can help, you know, have

the back cheat his way out on the opposite side knowing Trent's going to neutralize that side. I agree with you, Ocho. I'm glad you got this deal done. I think he had earned this. He had proven he had gotten better year after year after year. And when some of those guys, when Debo was down, when McCaffrey was down, Trent missed a couple of games,

he stepped up his level of play. Now, they didn't win all those games, but he showed that I can do my part. You can depend on me. You can count on me. And he played extremely well. And he was rewarded for his hard work and I always like to see that. I like to

see guys get rewarded and get what they've earned. I've shown you I've been healthy. I've been there and I'm not just a receiver. When Christian runs the ball and when the running back has the ball, I do a great job blocking and knocking guys. The jailbreak, the bubble

when we get the ball to Debo, I'm blocking when knocking guys up. He's a competitor. The jailbreak, the bubble screen. We get the ball to Debo. Yeah. I'm blocking. We run tight end screens to Kittle. I'm blocking. We run the screen, obviously, to McCaffrey. I'm doing a great job of blocking. So I like to see guys get rewarded for their hard work.

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reconciled bonus $38 million. The deal would pay him the second highest average salary, $34 million per year, coming in just behind Justin Jefferson of $35 million. After the deal was announced, C.D. had said he wants Jerry to stop

playing games and play Dak Prescott. You look at our numbers together, they're at the top of the charts. I have no doubt that they're going to get the deal done. We all know Dak wants to be here. Jerry wants Dak here, so let's just get under control and kill the speculation. The big news out of the day,

Dak had a very tense press conference, Ochoe when asked yeah he's next that replied not really sure not my focus anymore to be honest with you told you guys that really can't ever say it uh we're really my focus uh would it would i would you like it to be done by week one i think it says a lot if it is or if it he said i think it says a lot if it is or if it isn't. I think it says a lot if it is or if it isn't. However, it doesn't really matter to me, to be honest with you. What does it say if it's not done?

That's just how people feel. Which people? I don't know. You're right about that. Dak was told, Jerry Jones said Wednesday about the contracts talk are more about the franchise can do and can't do. Yeah, I understand that. That's business and the nature of the game

that we play. Yeah, I mean, I stopped honestly listening to the things that he says to the media a long time ago. Doesn't really hold any weight with me. Wow. Wow. Listen, you saw an interview. You saw answers

from a quarterback that's frustrated, that's sick and tired of his owner. Always chirping, always talking, saying things like, oh, we're all in, but not living up to his end of the bargain. Talking a lot of cash shit, but not cashing the goddamn check. Now, obviously, he had no choice but to do it with CeeDee Lamb because the market is what the market is. And if you look at CeeDee's numbers statistically in almost every category, it's warranted based on what he had to pay him. Like I said before, when we talked about Dak and his contract, if I was Dak, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even resign because I would hit the market understanding I have the leverage, I have power and you know with the way jerry is treating you if you think about other quarterbacks in other situations when a time

like this has come up they don't hesitate in taking care of their quarterback of the future they don't hesitate there are no problem there are no no owners in front of the mic saying what is good and what isn't good yeah it just gets done so him playing with you like this it lets you know how you know i understand business is business but there's nothing to wait for there's no reason you've been there the whole time you've done everything the right way dac has said all the right things now i know on the field people can can be very critical of that when it matters most he hasn't come through. Regular season, beautiful.

Playoffs, they've always fallen short. But again, there is no replacement for Dak at this time. So right now, despite what's happened on the field, in between the lines, in the postseason, there's no other replacement. So you do have to do what's right by that quarterback that's gotten you to that point of being in the playoffs. I mean, obviously, you can be very critical of them in the postseason but it is what it is this is where i disagree with you where you say if i was that i wouldn't even want to sign okay let's just say

for the sake of argument i i i hit the market can you imagine what the raiders would give him next year why you can you imagine what the raiders would give him next year you got to make it the next year? Why you? Can you imagine what the Raiders would give him next year? You got to make it the next year. He ain't finna get it. He ain't not going to get hurt. You said that before when he broke his ankle. Remember that? You remember that?

You say God got it. Did he break his ankle? Yeah. How much time did he miss? Yes, sir. Rest of the season. Damn. Yeah.

So you want 60 million. They come to you and got 57 and a half, 58 million. You're going to turn're right. So you want $60 million. They come to you and got $57.5, $58 million. You're going to turn that down and say, no, I want to hit the market because I want $60 million? Or do you take that deal? Or think about this. Are you sick of this shit? Are you sick of this fucking circus?

Think about that. Do you want to deal with that for another four or five years? Do you want to deal with the pressures of your owner at the goddamn mic where you got to make a speech like like suge knight did back at the damn awards back in the day you get tired of your owner or in front of the mic come on over here to you know i you know i'm not saying no name but you know you know what i'm trying to reference. He might be tired of that. I think other players might be tired of it as well. Stop continuously adding pressure to us that already comes with the star itself.

The product sells itself. You don't have to be the front and center of attention. I continue to say the same thing over and over. Now you saw a quarterback that did an interview that is sick and tired of it. This is what you get. All he does is talk, but there's no action behind what he's saying. He's made it abundantly clear with his statement.

He wants to be the focus point, the focal point. He wants to be the guy that gets the credit when they win. And he doesn't have a problem. He let it be known. He let that be known. But nobody surprised him. It's not like Jerry is breaking. He's not like it's an Amber Alert. It's interrupting anything

to bring you news that Jerry wants to get credit for the success of the Cowboys. That's who he is. That's why he ran Jimmy off. And so for me, Ocho, I just think the thing is, look, Dak just wants to... See, the problem that Jerry

has, Dak has never embraced Jerry like Tony Romo did, or like some of the other players. He's always Heisman posed him. Yes, you're the owner. Yeah. I'm not buddy, buddy. I'm not going to your house.

I'm not doing all that. I'm going to do my job. You pay me accordingly. Yeah. And I'm going to keep it like that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Straight business.

And that's how— Strictly business. That's how Dak has kept this relationship with Jerry Jones. And Jerry likes to get – he likes to get buddy. You know, he and Mike was good. You know, he and Tony Romo, he has this guy. Jerry normally likes the guys that he drafts because he's like, I drafted you. So, obviously, I like you a lot.

And, you know, hey, these are my guys. But Dak's like, nah, nah, bro. I think you full of it. And so I see it for what it is. I'm not fit to play with you, and I'm not going to have you play in my face. I'm the quarterback until otherwise noted, but I'm going to do my job,

and I'm going to start worrying about what you say because what you say don't mean nothing. A lot of times you just talk the talk because they give you a mic, and you're going to say some of them countryisms, and everybody's going to laugh, but I don't think what you be saying is funny. Yeah, not at this point.

That's what Dak is looking at it as. Listen, if you know us, you know, I'm going to say it without saying the wrong thing, but if you know us and you're able to read between the lines and understand mannerisms, even though you're in front of the media and having to

portray yourself in the right way, being the quarterback of a franchise, a historic franchise, is that? You can read between that. Sure.

You know what he's trying to say. You know what he really, you know what he really want to say. You know what Dak really want to say. Honestly, I've never heard a player say that about an owner, but we don't normally get owners

that get in front of the mic and try to dominate and try to dominate a press conference, try to dominate the headlines. Yeah. Well, look. When Jerry came in, Al Davis was that guy. And Jerry learned a lot of what he knows about being an owner from Al Davis.

And so basically he's taken over that role is that Al, nobody was going to be bigger than Al Davis or the Raiders. That wasn't going to happen. Right. Jerry looks at it the same way. Nobody's going to be bigger than Jerry. That's Raiders. That wasn't going to happen. Right. Jerry looks at it the same way. Nobody's going to be bigger than Jerry. That's why he's not going to hire no coach with no name. He didn't even have you. He hired Bill Belichick.

He hired Sean Payton. Huh? That's why he got rid of Jimmy. He was never going to be bigger than Jimmy because Jimmy won. Jimmy won at college. Jimmy won in the NFL because Jimmy knew the players that he got because he tried to recruit a lot of the players that played in college

ball that was coming into the league. Jimmy tried to recruit them. So he knows what's going to work. That rubbed Jerry the wrong way. Right there, that's called sabotage. You can't even get out your own way for your team's success. I want it, but I need to get the credit for it.

I'd rather lose my way than win somebody else's way. How about that? He would rather lose his way than win someone else's way. And that is why you continue to get the same results end at the end of every season because you're trying to do it you can't you will let me steer the boat oh cho damn it i'm gonna sink it yeah i'm gonna sink it no you won't no i asked you i'll let you ask let me do it earlier and you wouldn't so now i got to sink the boat you wouldn't let me steer it so i'm gonna going to sink it. Yeah, and you know,

I don't think the fans even realize what's going on. I don't think they realize what's going on. Continuously, every year, continuously every year, you're sold a dream. And you buy into that dream. A lot of times. And in the postseason, you finally wake up. And then you go to sleep,

and you get sold a dream the following year. It's Groundhog Day. It's the same thing over and over. A lot of these fans, Ojo, some of these fans, a lot of them, the older guys, they were fans of the Cowboys before Jerry even got there. That's him.

And then a lot of these fans, when you know who the owner was, but he wasn't this outspoken when Jerry was there, and they were winning, how can you not? I mean, it's kind of like if you're 7, 8, 10 years old now and you're a Chiefs fan, how do you get away from that

after you've seen what Patrick Mahomes has done? If you grew up in Boston, you was born in the early 2000s, and all you know for 20 years, so from the time you was a baby and the time you was 20, all you know is the Patriots winning. How did you get away from that? Even when they have lean years, you've seen it at its best. A lot of people see the Cowboys went 21 straight seasons. They never had a losing season.

They were always winning. Coach Landry, you find Coach Landry as soon as he got there. Coach Landry was a mythical figure. I can't have you here. I got to get you out of the way. Let me bring this college coach in there. We don't even plan for the, oh, damn. Man, hold on.

They winning. Oh, shit. Two Super Bowl back-to-back? Oh, I got to get you up out of here because you're going to be, you're about to turn into another Tom Landry. Yeah. See? See how that work?

And plus, and you knew it was about that because the man wouldn't put him in there. He wouldn't put him in the ring of fame. He's the second best coach in Cowboys history, and you wouldn't put him in the ring of honor. You made that man wait all this time. Yeah. That's personal. That's Yeah. That's personal.

That's personal. That's personal. But again, and you wonder why you're not getting the results you want to because you continue to try to do things your way when your way is not working. But yet again, here we go again. A new year coming around. 2024. Let me try it one more time.

Get in front of the mic. Now your quarterback is sick of the bullshit. I love how y'all talking about Shannon in this game one. But see, y'all get mad at me when I tell y'all things, and then, oh, oh, oh, bro, I know what game it is. I say, but did you see anything different in game one from Colorado this year that you didn't see last year? Oh, Shador helping the season last year with over 500.

Travis Hunter was sensational. Horn was fabulous. What about the defense? What about the costly penalties? But don't worry about it. We're going to circle back and I want y'all to say the same thing. We got a subject we're going to talk

about a little later today about Kadarius Toney. Who's Toney's coming on show? That's my guy, baby. Well, you better get him on the Bengals. Because he's available. Oh, he's going to be somewhere. You ain't got to worry about that because he's still a special talent. He's going to be in Kansas City.

He still is. Well, obviously, you know, his days were numbered when they got Hollywood Brown. His days were numbered with his behavior and dropping of the passes. They wouldn't have got Hollywood Brown if he was doing what he was supposed to. They wouldn't have drafted Xavier Worthy.

Think about it. They traded. He was the first round pick. They still... Yeah. I keep telling you, you won't listen to me. How many times have I told you? They'll tolerate you until they can replace you.

The moment they can replace this young man, what do they do? But anyway, we'll talk about that a little later. We'll talk about it a little later. Let's go ahead and talk about this there. If the Cincinnati Bengals want to get an extension done with Jamar Chase before the season starts, it looks like they're going to have to write a pretty hefty check uh to make it happen chase wants a new deal that would make him the highest paid player in nfl history that title currently

belongs to justin jefferson who got a four-year extension worth 140 million dollars in june chase is looking to blow that deal away he's not looking to blow that deal away instead he wants to be the highest paid by one cent so it appears to me to get the deal done it will take 140 million dollars and a penny like i don't know where that came from i'm not sure that report came from i'm not sure how true that report is now what i do know is i said it before when we were on here i i said well no i was i don't know i was on it was on. I think it was with Adam Shetler. I said, I don't think Justin

I don't think Jamar Chase is touching the field until he gets the deal done. Obviously, he is making minimum wage for the type of receiver that he is in this NFL. He's a top three receiver based on what he's done so far and based on what he's going to do. We understand his potential and what he

can be for the Cincinnati Bengals. If you watch the Cincinnati Bengals offense, it is run through Joe Burrow, the quarterback, but the main threat is Uno. We all know that when they break the huddle, defenses make their adjustments and their alignments based off where Uno goes. We know that. Now, no disrespect to the Bengals, they have a great receiving core and some great depth at receiver, but there's a difference in Uno and everyone else. Now, I also see T. Higgins as 1A. I don't really see him as a number two, but it's still different. It's still different. There's a reason he was drafted where he was drafted in the first round, because he is that great. He is that

phenomenal. He is a difference maker. He can hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere on the field. And we understand the importance of that and what he brings to that team. Joe Burrow knows that. So at some point, Joe Burrow is going to have to interfere because he understands like, we always start the season off slow. We always start 0-2 out the gate, 0-3 out the gate sometimes. This year is different. Teams in the AFC North have gotten better. The Browns have gotten better. The Steelers have gotten well. They've gotten better.

Hey, wait. Well, hell, the Ravens have gotten better. You can't come in here playing around. The culture has shifted in Cincinnati. Things are different in Cincinnati from top to bottom, the way they do things. And I think still, I think they will get it done.

I don't think he wants to be the highest paid, but he will be top three. Of course he does. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, they, they, they not, they not doing that. But here's the thing. They not going to make you, they not, they not, I don't they they not they not doing that but here's the thing they're not gonna make you they not they not i i don't know he's he's going to be paid within you know top three now i i just

i don't know i can't speak because things have changed based on what they're willing to do but i know one thing and i said if people were making fun of me uh you said he wasn't touching the field and he went to practice and y'all thought because he went to practice oh okay now he's holding me no yeah yeah he holding in and the one thing that one thing i know based on what i know about jamar is he mean business he mean business and he he ain't finna play about his money because he understand what he's done he understand his worth his value and i'm sure the fans understand that well actually they don't because none of them have been on his side based on what i've seen on twitter so far they're like well you signed the contract you need to obey your contract and i didn't even want to get in that argument you know but for some reason fans are

always on the owners in the in the teams the team side you know But it's crickets when they decide to cut a player who is also in the contract and it's always crickets. But that's a whole other story. Because the players team, team colors really don't change. That team really doesn't move. And the thing that's working against Chase is that he has two years left.

CD had one. CD had one. CD was a franchise. I think they franchised CD, right? Oh, he had one. CD had one. Well, CD was a franchise. Yeah, CD was I think the franchise CD, right? Oh, he had one year left. He had one year left. He had one year left. Jefferson had one year left. Chase has two, Ocho. How do we get there after two?

Let me see. Let me talk to you about that. When it comes to special players, right? There are very few of them in nfl when every team there's maybe one maybe two if you're lucky like 49ers you got a trent williams you got a christian mccaffrey special special bangles jamar chase uh i can go i can go down every team. Everyone has a special player that is deserving of said contract despite how many years you have. There's a thing that I call doing right by individual

because you know what value they bring to your team in regards to how many years are left on a contract. I understand the way business works. I understand he has two years left, but in good right and in good faith, if it was me as an owner, I know what value he is. Would you have to be willing to give up something? You can't say, well, give me that and give me the game because I'm giving you the game because you want security, right? So what are you going to give me in turn for this security? You got two years, not one. You're not at the end of the deal. You got two years left because you and I, we got to, you know, when you run a business and I run a business, I got to look at it from a standpoint.

Yeah, I want everybody to eat. But what do I get in return for giving you this? I'm giving you financial security a boatload of it two years earlier than I have to really theoretically Ocho four years because now you can play those

two years and I can pick up that fifth year option that's two and I got two franchise tags so theoretically I really don't have to do anything for four years. So what it. Well, actually, you don't want to piss him off either. What I'm saying.

You don't want to piss him off either. What do I get in return? You have to give up something, Ocho. Because if I come to you with two years left, what are you going to give me? So you got to give me some leeway, Ocho. Yeah, I'm sure you will. I mean, listen, it's those that work upstairs

that are going to get that done, but they have to have... They don't be wanting to pay nobody, Ocho. You don't back Brown, man. Well, listen, if you look at some of the off-season acquisitions now, we open up the wallet now.

That's to bring you in. We open up the wallet. That's why I said the culture has shifted, especially when it comes to paying players. But I think they're going to get it done. He's not touching that field without an idea. I can tell you that. I don't have a problem.

I can tell you that. But if he's slotted somewhere, if he comes in like CD, then I think that's the problem. I don't think the Bengals have a problem giving him an extension to put him in that

top three, top four. It's just that with two years left, we can't put you number one. You go vote Jefferson. And when Jefferson numbers, with two years left. Right. We can't put you number one in the penny above Justin. Yeah, you pole vault Jefferson. Right.

And when Jefferson numbers, if you go back and look at it through the first three years, Jefferson's numbers are better. Yeah. Oh, wait, listen. They better, but Chase is right there now.

Yeah. He right there with him. And think about it. Right there with himself. I mean, 1,900 receiving yards one year, all those catches. Last year, he missed, 1,900 receiving yards one year, all those catches. Last year, he missed, what, seven games and still had over 1,000 yards.

Yeah. So, yeah, look, you're splitting hairs because each week you're like, I want this guy, I want that guy. One week it might be JJ, next week it might be CD, next week it might be Chase, It might be Devontae. It's your preference. What do you like? But when you start getting that number with two years left,

I think that's what the sticking point is. I don't think they have a problem with giving it. They're like, are we really trying to... Look, the Bengals don't want to set that precedent for everybody, for others, because they look at like, hold on. Because you know, owners call and say, Mike, what are you doing? Are you about to start that precedent that we got to go give receivers?

Because normally that's reserved for quarterbacks. Quarterbacks for the longest time, Ocho, after that third year, you go to them early because you know, hey, it's only going to get more expensive. More expensive. So normally that was reserved for the quarterbacks. Chase said, hold on, wait a minute. When Joey went down,

hey, I'll still give you that work now. So I see both sides of it. Obviously, I want the players to make as much money as they can. Because, and you know what's coming. And it's going to come sooner than later. That 18th game is coming, don't you? It's coming.

They about to do a way when he's preseason game, you got two preseason games, 18 regular season gamese it's coming they about to do away with when he's preceded the game you have two preseason games 18 regular season game it's coming so i don't blame the player look i'm trying to load up i'm trying to get as much as i can i'm trying to get back to the table as much as i can so when i get that 18 game i get that extra check and i got that money i got the extra money to hey i'm okay with it so i don't have a problem because I know what's coming. You know what's coming. Think what? That deal doesn't end

until 20... What is the new CBA up? 2020? 2030? They got a long way to go. Yeah. They just went to 17 three years ago. Think about how long it was. They went from 12 to 14, 14 to 16. Think about that long it was. They went from 12 to 14, 14 to 16.

So think about that. And they're about to go from 17 to 18 in less time than they went from 12 to 16. Yeah. Hey,

it is. It is. Listen, I really hope they get it done, huh? I don't know. I really hope they get it done. We need to get, we need, we, we, we, my bangles, we need to hit the ground running week one against the Patriots at full strength. Week one.

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The Chiefs didn't get what they wanted long term as a 2022 midseason trade with the Giants that allowed them to acquire wide receiver Kadarius Toney, who was released this week. General Manager Brett Beach felt the deal was one of the best he's ever made. I don't think we're sitting here for a third straight Super Bowl championship had we not made the trade. From that standpoint, we'd do it all over again in a heartbeat. I agree. In the fourth quarter, the Chief we do it all over again in a heartbeat. I agree.

In the fourth quarter, the chief Super Bowl win over the Eagles two years ago, Tony scored a touchdown. And another, he set up a punt return with a 65 yard touch, a punt return. Tony wound up playing just 20 regular season game for the chiefs. He caught 55 passes,

score four touchdowns. But one of those games was a notable injury that dropped passes. Beach added, we're certainly disappointed. I think he's disappointed. We really like the kid, and I know people have different takes on Kadarius,

but I know in this building, he's a bright kid. I'm certainly sure there would be things that he'd do differently in regards to just some of the offseason and the stuff taking care of his body I think it's a process I think he's a really smart kid I do think he'll figure it out he was actually a

lot of fun to be around I just hope the kid that he can get a little good luck on his side and stay healthy what you think of it Joe? I like him I love I love him I love Kadarius, a phenomenal talent, if you watch him play when he was at Florida if you watch him play with the Giants

if you watch him play early that's why they traded him, Joe, stop he was hurt you can't say that he played well with the Giants let me finish listen, he had flashes of brilliance and greatness that I saw in college.

I enjoyed it. They traded for the Chiefs. Listen, let me finish. Let me finish. The Chiefs traded for him based on what they saw and the potential and what he could do with the ball in his hands. Why did the Giants trade him? There was some good days.

There was some good days because of the injuries. There were some good days. There were some good days with the Chiefs now, except some good days. There were some good days with the Chiefs now, except for those moments. Now, you say it all the time, the game of football is about moments. Now, the moments we remember about Caderius, Tony, were big moments.

That interceptions, important drops. Lining up offsides. It is magnified. Yeah, the offsides. It is magnified, not only because the team you're playing for but it's the Super Bowl champion team at that with arguably the best quarterback of all time on the team as well so everything is magnified even more but again like the GM said there were

some good times we wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl we would have had some of the some of the opportunities we had if it hadn't been for his contribution during that time. Now, it wasn't as perfect as we'd like it and it come into fruition as we'd like. But if he would be able to do the trade again, like he said, he would do it again because of what Kadarius Toney was able to contribute. I just hope he matures. Yeah, obviously, he needs a little luck as far as staying healthy, but he needs to mature. And, you know, we all don't mature at the age of 21. Sometimes it might be 21. Sometimes kids come in, they're already mature.

Because they had to be mature a lot sooner than they really needed to be. And so you can see that with the way they conduct themselves when they get to the NFL. Some kids, they might have to be 24, 25. And some never mature. They never ever get it. But I

hope he, because this is an opportunity, you waited a lifetime to be in this position, you worked your ass off. Clearly, God has given you the ability. But he just needs to understand you got to grow up. People ain't finna babysit you. I am not finna pay you an exorbitant amount of money

and babysit your ass. I need you to be an adult. I don't think that's asking too much. I think he's going to be alright. He's going to land somewhere. Sometimes a fresh start to change his senior is all you need. The receiver room

over there now is completely full Sky Moore and Rasheed Rice and Xavier Worthy and Hollywood Brown. So I understand the numbers crunching and it is what it is. He'll get a fresh start somewhere else. And once Kadarius Tony gets that confidence back and understanding

I'm him because you were him before you got here. If I can get that Kadarius Tony that had that confidence at Florida, like, boy, you finna get that work. How many guys you know in college had confidence? The NFL is a different animal, Ocho. I know, but listen, especially

when you get to the NFL, it's about one thing. It's about one thing. You gotta understand. Remember, our game is 90% mental. It's 90% mental. Everybody is equivalent when it comes to skill and speed and all these other intangibles that we talk about. But once you got it up here,

Oh, it's a, well, damn, you say change of scenery. You said that when he got me to the Kansas city, she changed the scenery. Now he's at Kansas city.

If you can't play in Kansas city with that Andy Reed offense, and he let them guys play, just go practice hard. I'll let Patrick Mahomes throw it behind his back i'll let you travis you know what i thought you i'm gonna throw it to you you catch it and then you throw it to cadarius tony i'll let you guys do anything you want just play hard well damn oh joe right yeah yeah hey maybe that come maybe maybe that's the part of the match racing about maturing that needs to happen.

Understanding the significance of your role and how important those roles are. And sometimes you don't realize what you got until it's gone. Sometimes you don't realize what you got until it's gone. There are very many places you're going to continue to go before you're out of the league, Ocho. There are a lot of talented mocos that's on the street now. You know that. Yeah, shit, I'm right here. I'm one up. Nah, you old.

You old. That's a young man's game. There. They start trying to rearrange their roster once the guys get to 30. So you know. Yeah. But that's the thing. I just think the thing is i wish somebody could

get to him um and talk to him like bro you're not gonna get very many more opportunities and the only reason he's getting opportunities now oh so he's a first round pick oh yeah if this guy was a fourth or fifth round pick six round pick it's over but because you understand why i'll pick it's over. But because he's the first round pick, it's like, you know what? I'm sure a lot of people had him high. Some people took him off their draft board because of some issues. Okay, that's understandable. He's not the first

guy. He won't be a last guy that has some red flags and team took him off their draft board. That's okay. Everybody isn't for everybody. But when you get these opportunities, Yeah, you got to make the most of them. You got to make the most of them. But you But when you get these opportunities. Yeah, you got to make the most of them. You got to make the most of them.

But you know why he gets these opportunities? You keep saying, we keep saying he was a first round pick. You know why he was a first round pick? That motherfuckers could. But they cut them. They cut them too. You see a lot of first round. And you see the guy from Minnesota.

Finney. The safety. Georgia, all those talented guys, the Vikings released him. They cut first-round picks when you don't play well. Hey, you know what? I saw a list. Was it Georgia or Alabama players? I think I saw a list of all the first-round picks that he did with the Georgia or Alabama. And all of them were cut I'm I'm I'm not sure what's wrong or where the disconnect is coming from with not being able to transition where they don't fit

in the NFL I don't know it's weird bro I mean yeah I think the thing is Ocho is that a lot of times yes uh they get great coaching obviously Kirby Smart's one of the best we know Coach Saban we don't really have to do a whole lot of talking about him but you're right I mean everybody that goes to these big schools ain't gonna make it it's just you're gonna get an opportunity

because you went there but at the end of the day bro you got A and that's the thing I really like about the NFL. It ain't like college. You got to be a player. You got to be A.O. Cho. You got to play.

Yeah. Oh, man. It was easy for you. You can't be a liability. It was easy for you because you had a brother. Sterling Sharp couldn't catch no balls for the Broncos for me. That might have gotten like, oh, okay, he's got a brother that was a first-round pick. Oh, he's an all-pro.

Triple crown. Okay. Okay. I gave him an opportunity. But at the end of the day, what can you do for the Broncos? The starting shot couldn't help them win no game. He was helping Green Bay. And so that's how they look at it. I understand you went to these programs

and you back-to-back national championships and you was an SEC defensive player of the year. Bro, you need to show me that here. I know what you did there. That's why I drafted you. But I needed you to do some of that here. In today's game,

Mocho, they can't wait because they're going to have to pay you too much money by that third or fourth year. They couldn't bait. Yeah, they got to. They. Yeah. They couldn't bait. Listen, yeah, they got to.

They couldn't bait. They got to. They're trying to find the next one. And they're going to find it too, Ocho. That's what they, they're going to cut bait. Hey,

I thought y'all had no money. If y'all stop cutting all these players. Oh, they got money now. Don't let them tell you they don't. Josh Allen was chosen as the most overrated quarterback. Damn. Stop cutting all these players. Oh, they got money now. Don't let them tell you they don't. Josh Allen was chosen as the most overrated quarterback. Damn.

As the most overrated quarterback in the league as a part of an anonymous survey of 103 NFL players. In a survey conducted by ESPN, 11 players voted Allen as the most overrated quarterback, placing him just ahead of Jalen Hurts and Tua, who got 10 votes apiece. Talk of the law. Tua. One of the NFC players who voted for Allen pointed ball security as the reason, saying too many turnovers.

So because he turns the ball away. But is he not good? Okay, but anyway, we get to that in a minute or two. Allen also had the most total turnover in the nfl since he entered league 2018 which is 102 however his 221 combined passing and rushing touchdowns during that same time frame his second in the league only behind my homeboy his 53 career rushing touchdowns are already second most in the NFL by a quarterback only behind Cam Newton

who has 75. Ocho, what's your take? Do you believe Josh Allen is overrated? Fuck no, he ain't overrated. God damn, no damn well he's not overrated. Now coming from his peers, and I'm sure

this was probably offensive players too that did this this survey and sometime when it comes to these surveys i try to think to myself did players really vote on this did the players really vote on this because even the players whether you play offense or you play defense you understand how good josh allen is despite the goddamn interception despite the goddamn turnovers you understand how good josh allen is despite the goddamn interception despite the goddamn turnovers you understand how especially is and what he means to the buffalo bills so i kind of take stuff like this with a grain of salt but i i do understand where they're coming from based on what he's done falling short in the playoffs i could i could see if you brought if you mentioned that and brought that up um other than that man half of the reason why the buffalo bills have changed and got back to

their winning ways outside of not reaching uh the super bowl is because of josh allen the quarterback and i would add stephon diggs and being a part of that contribution as well and their success so i'm curious to see how it's going to turn out this year without that type of player offensively at the helm. So much of the load to me is going to have to be on Josh Allen until Keon Coleman gets his self in a rhythm and gets going and they find that rapport

together in chemistry. So, um... Overrated? No. I don't like it. Who else was on that list? Who else was on that list? Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts overrated? No, I don't like it. Who else was on that list? Who else was on that list? Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts overrated?

Well, I think the thing is, he took a step back. Whatever the case may be. Yeah, but he was hurt. Who cares about that? He was back down. Was his paycheck hurt? He couldn't even run.

His paycheck hurt. He couldn't even run. Oh, Joe, you know know when fans see that number one out there they see hurts on the back that chick he got paid the same whether he was hurt or not yeah that's how it works nobody cares well if you hurt oh joe go sit down because you can't use her as an excuse if you're gonna go out there playing yeah now listen they started 10 and 1 last year right when the goddamn kitchen sink fell out excuse if you're going to go out there and play. Yeah. Now, listen. They started 10-1 last year, right?

When the goddamn kitchen sink fell out the second half of the season. Now, I don't know if that was on the offense, but the games that I did see, that defense stunk that shit up. Jalen Hurts had double the amount of turnovers that he had the year before. So who's that on? Yeah.

That's on him. That's on him. That's on him. He played bad. And a lot of the things that was going on when people shouted, you're a hater. Man, see, you always

talking about black quarterbacks. You never do this. I say, what y'all doing? Y'all accepting things and win. You never would at a loss. And then when the bottom fell out, man, you were right.

How you know? No, no, no, don't want me now. But y'all was dumping on me earlier. I tried to warn you because I'm just using playing 14 years in the league, studying, watching these guys. I'm telling you, I said, hey, there's

danger ahead. I'm the check engine light. Now I've been telling you, you know what ass that you check it. I'm the check engine light. Now, I've been telling you you know what ass, that you come, hey, I'm your check engine light. And I've been warning you. So when it puts you down side the road, what happened? Man, I don't know. You do know. The check engine light been on for two months

and you didn't get a check. You didn't adhere to the warnings that I was giving you. But now, when I got your undivided attention when you're at home in the playoff, after you done got the brakes beat off now, when I got your undivided attention when you're at home in the playoff, after you got the brakes beat off you, now I got your undivided attention. Now

you want to change it up. Well, you always pick it on Lamar. They ain't talking about Lamar. I'm talking about the Eagles. That's what I was talking about. We'll talk about Lamar at a later date and time. Right now, let's address your Eagles. And see, that was the problem. You know what? That's the thing, Ocho. People have gotten

so used to lies that the truth sounds like hate. Oh. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on now. Hold on. That's what it is. Boy.

Boy, that's a good one there, boy. Hell no. People have gotten so used to the lies that the truth sounds like hate. But everybody keeps saying, Shannon, you hate it. I need somebody to tell me. A guy that's accomplished what I've accomplished. I've done. My resume is picking apart. 13-5 in the playoffs.

Pro Bowls, All Pros, All-Decade Player, Hall of Fame. Tell me why I would hate on any player. Because only one player currently playing has as many Super Bowls as I have. That's Kelsey. So tell me the players that I'm hating on. I'm waiting. Oh, what y'all gonna do?

Y'all wanna compare me to a quarterback? Y'all wanna compare me to a defensive tackle? I mean, what y'all wanna compare me to? I ain't got no problem. Kelsey better than I was. Gronk better than I was. I got what I could out of my ability. I ain't gonna never hate.

But I will tell you like it is. But you ever notice, like I will tell you like it is. But you'll never notice. Like I tell y'all, when these players that y'all think I be hating on, when they see me, um, you hard, but you fair. You call it like you see it. So what y'all be saying, y'all be seeing y'all fans.

And I get it. Hey, you supposed to support your guys, but I ain't got no dog in the fight. My job is to be when guys play well, I say they play well. When guys play bad, when Patrick Mahomes was playing bad, I said he played bad. Y'all ain't have no problem with that.

I gave the nickname Mahomeboy. Y'all ain't have no problem with that. But y'all come up with every excuse. Oh, they should have run the ball oh they throw the ball too much he ain't got no help well damn he had no help in one mvps but when he loses we gotta blame somebody else no i'm just telling you you turn the ball over the playoffs you're gonna lose you're going home it's really simple it's always been like that ocho and you pay double in the turn up you play you pay double for turnover And you pay double in the turnovers. You pay double for turnovers in the playoffs.

Double in the playoffs, yeah. So, I'm going to keep telling y'all the truth. Y'all know it. But I guess, I don't, does he turn the ball over too much? Yes. Yes. That's what's holding them back. But he ain't overrated.

He ain't overrated. Not even close. Two things can be true. He ain't overrated. Not even close. Two things can be true. He can be a turnover machine and he can still not be overrated. So I think sometimes we can play the two things together and say, well,

because he turns the ball over so much, he can't be that good. No, he that good. You don't put up the numbers. I mean, think about it. He's second. I mean, Josh Allen's only been in the league about five or six years,

and the man got 53 rushing touchdowns. He's going to have, think about it, a quarterback with 100 rushing touchdowns. This guy's going to have 100 rushing touchdowns by the time his career is over, Ocho. Which is crazy. There ain't a whole lot of running backs that got 100 rushing touchdowns. This guy's a chance this guy might have 400 passing touchdowns and 100 rushing touchdowns

which will be crazy crazy insane insane but at the end of the day, you know that position is measured by one thing, Ocho. Playoffs and wins. That's it. That's it, Ocho. All that other stuff, you can throw for a gazillion yards. Hey, when it comes time to the playoff, you better throw for a gazillion yards or you better find a way to get your team

because that's what, like I said, the thing that's most impressive about Brady is that Brady, within the first couple of series, he could tell what type of game he needed to have in order to win. Oh, man, this is going to be a nip-tuck game. I can't turn it over. Okay, 150, 175 yards with no turnover is going to win him. He says, I'm not going to beat my team.

I'm going to let somebody else help us beat them. And that's what you got to do. That's what Brady was great at that. He knew, uh-oh, okay. All right, boys, let's go. I'm going to have to throw for 400-plus today. Or I'm going to need to throw for 175 and a touchdown and keep the ball out of harm's way.

And I don't think enough court. Mahomes has gotten good. Look at that. Over the last couple years, we normally used to see Mahomes throw for 300, 400. Look at that. Look at the game that he had against Philly in the Super Bowl. Did he throw for 200 yards in the Super Bowl?

No. Efficient. Decision-making at its finest. It took overtime. I think he got over 300. Critical. Critical moments, not turning the ball over. That's what you got to have.

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