Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Cooper Kupp future, Jerry Jones delusional, Busta Rhymes stops by

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Matthew Stafford throwing for 4 TDs in the Los Angeles win over Sam Darnold and the Minnesota Vikings on Thursday Night Football and question if the Rams should trade Cooper Kupp.03:30 - Show starts03:47 - Intro04:55 - Vikings v Bears22:45 - Jerry Jones45:00 - Busta Rhymes joins(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We have Buster Rimes and the Miz. But first, let's talk about the game, Ocho. Behind four touchdown passes for Matthew Stafford, the Rams get a win on Thursday night football, improve to 3-4, and the Minnesota falls to 5-2 after losing consecutive ballgames. The Rams got a safety on a missed face mask call. Sam Darnold was sacked in the end zone,

but it was clearly, clearly a face mask. And I don't know how the official that's standing two, three feet away from him missed that. So now it goes from an eight point to a 10 point game and the Rams get the ball back and they were able to seal the victory by taking knees because the Vikes were out of time out ocho yeah remember we say all plays aren't created equal well shannon i mean there are plenty of missed calls throughout the course of the game yeah if you missed that call

in the fourth in the first quarter you got three three and a half four quarters to overcome it when you down eight and you miss that call ocho right uh that's a you can't overcome that you can't there's a difference in the game it is it was a big difference in the ball game and i look matthew stafford played really well tonight uka nakua now you see why cooper cup is on the trade block you got a younger guy that's less expensive and that's the way sports work. It's just like that in the real world. If you get somebody that's younger,

okay, somebody that's been there 10, 15 years, you get somebody that's younger, that's on a cheaper salary, that can do the job just as well, if not better. Yeah. There's really no loyalty. You talk about loyalty in sports, there ain't a whole lot of loyalty in jobs either. Yeah, and there really no loyalty. You talk about loyalty in sports. Ain't a whole lot of loyalty in jobs either.

Yeah. And they never had been, never has been. That's the way to say, this is the, a dirty business. It always has been a dirty business, but some,

but for some reason, fans are always fooled into believing that it's a fair game for the players. And the first thing they bring up is, well, the players make millions of dollars, but they always ignore the business side of things. Again,

I'll, I'll, I'll state it again. Cooper cup didn't have a, a, a great game tonight, but Puka Nakua did. He picked up where he left off.

Matthew Stafford, if I'm not mistaken, coming into this game, he only had three touchdown passes in the past, whatever weeks it might've been. And tonight with a healthy cooper cup and a healthy pukunakua has four tonight the deep the offense look completely different so with with cooper cup being on the trade block with them going from from um what was it with the two and

five and that would two and four to now three and four if i'm not mistaken yep they're three and four with that with that being their record now i think that's off because now you have to think last year they went on an eight game stretch of winning seven of the last eight so who's to say that they can't do that now now that everybody is back healthy so i think and they obviously last year they made the playoffs and finishing 10 and 10 and 7 if i'm not mistaken and made the playoffs. They might can go on a run now and do the same thing, especially from an offensive standpoint, as good as they're playing. The question is

if somebody willing to give me the high draft pick that I seek for Cooper Cup, then I do the deal. Tampa Bay absolutely will. They have nothing. They have nothing. Let me clear this. Chris Godwin is out mike evans is out it's always next it's always next man up but the next man up is not going to give you the production that your mike evans your chris godwin will would

having a cool cup to come in in the offense that i'm sure he's familiar with because much doesn't change from team to team outside of the language and the plays that are called. That's pretty much it. And I think that guy was with Sean McVay, so that might be the same offense. Bingo. And so they might pretty much use the same language.

And the thing is, Ocho, when they say next man up, you might be talking about one man. You don't really talk about two. You don't hope you got, well, I got another guy that plays behind Chris Godwin that can be the next man. I got a guy that plays behind Mike Evans that can be the next man. Most teams don't have two guys that are going to be the next man. You might have one.

You might find have a diamond in the rough where somebody goes out and the guy can come in and give you very similar production. But the likelihood of you having two, three guys like we see some of these teams, and that's why Kansas City made the deal. I mean, you're out Rasheed Rice. You're without Hollywood Brown. And you get, you know, Pacheco. Now Kareem Hunt has come in and did an unbelievable job.

But the likelihood of you having multiple guys that can beat the next man up and give you the kind of production that the guys that you were counting on to give you that production is not very likely. So my thing that I have for the Rams is that what is the likelihood, Ocho? Let's just say for the sake of argument if we were to keep Cooper Cup.

Right. What's our chance? Can we win it all? Because once you've won it all, the only question is can you win it all again? You know what? I say it all the Because once you've won it all, the only question is, can you win it all again? You know what? I say it all the time. And for those of you that are in the chat, football doesn't start.

Football season doesn't start. Meaningful football. Let me add that to it. Meaningful football doesn't start until after Thanksgiving. Until after Thanksgiving. And with them being three and four now, to me, how the Rams organization and Sean McVay are looking on the inside, hell, if we went

on a run and won 7 of our last 8 last year and made the playoffs at 10-7, who to say we can't do it now? And go on a run. And go on a tear. I think it's possible. And because the 49ers are not what they were,

you see Seattle, you're right there with them. You see the Cardinals, you're right there with them. And so maybe that changes your outlook also. Now, if you were like where the 49ers were, what, they were 6-1, maybe 7-1 at this point last year? No. You're like, ah, no, we're not catching them. And so now, because there's a chance you can win the division,

there's a chance you will get a home. If a chance you will get if you win the division obviously you get a home game so maybe that changes the thought process but normally when somebody's on the trade block they don't pull them off especially if i can get what i what i want to get kansas city walked away because they wanted a long they wanted a high draft pick and they wanted the Rams to put some of that salary bill. Right. Rams like, nah, nah, we're going to hold on. Hey, we still got, what, 12 days, November the 5th? We're in the election Tuesday.

So we're going to hold on, and we'll see what shakes out. Maybe, I hate saying this, but you know what, Ocho? Maybe somebody else that think they got a good chance to make the playoffs or make a deep run, a receiver gets nicked. And add him to their roster. Yeah. I mean, just looking at it,

the only thing that makes sense to me, obviously, Tampa Bay, who has a winning record and probably wants to still continue to give Baker an outlet, somewhat of a security blanket and someone he can actually get the ball to. I mean, you just have to do something like that. I'm sure Baker has spoke to management and spoke to the people upstairs, obviously the head coach and officer coordinator about getting another target in there so that Offen can still have some type of consistency and rhythm with a receiver that he can count on consistently down in and down out.

And listen, it might happen. But again, if you take Cooper Cupp out of that offense, who was double tonight, I think then Pugna Kua now gets that attention. But Sean McVay's offense is so creative and being it's so creative and being able to, to find ways to get food in the pool open. Um, I think they would be fine if they were to trade Cooper cup. You see, uh, Cooper cup has five for 51 in the touchdown. DeMarcus Robinson had two catches for 35 yards, two touchdowns. Kyron Williams even cheat, uh, even chipped in and had a touchdown catch. So they do a great job of spreading the ball around.

Tutu Adwell, who's playing well. Should have had a touchdown. Stafford underthrew him. Yeah, underthrew him. And so, yeah, they do a great job of spreading the ball around. The tight ends chipped in tonight, had some big catches. Hunter Long had one for 18. Adwell had one for 18.

Kobe Parkinson had two for 17. That offense is really predicated on spreading the ball around. Now, he will. The hot man, they're going to feed you because we remember that triple crown season that Cooper Cup had. And he's had some other seasons

in which he's played well, but not that historic season that he had during that Super Bowl run. So, I like this offense. And, you know, maybe you're right. Maybe that changes things because the 49ers is not as powerful as we thought they were going to be. And they're not dominating that division.

And so it's like, hold on. We got a whole bunch of teams. Anybody can win it. The Cardinals can win it. Seattle can win it. We can win it. 49ers can get healthy. They can win it.

But maybe that does change, Ocho. Maybe that does change how they see themselves moving forward. And maybe you're right. Maybe they do pull Cooper Cupp, Buck off the trade block. But if I think if they get a third-round pick for him, Ocho, I think they're going to let him go because Sean McVay says, you know what? We got Puka. We got

Demarcus Robinson. We got Atwell. We can spread it around enough and we can make plays. Or look, Kyron Williams running the football. He ran the ball decent night. They kept they balanced it up defensively. They're okay. They're not great. Obviously when you lose one of the historically

great defensive players of all time and Aaron Donald, but they still can get out to the they still can get out to your quarterback. But it I would love to have seen what would have happened. Oh Joe, if we get that that that's a face mask. You can't miss that call in that spot

at that moment in that area. Because not only do you give them 15 yards in the first down, that's two points for the opposing team and you give the other team the ball. Oh, yeah. So you did three bad things. We don't get 15 yards in the first down.

You give them two points and you give them the ball. I'm like, well, damn. What the hell were you looking at? Bro, look, I understand. You OK? I mean, you ain't going to be able to catch no. Oh, they're like, hell, we try to get this red eye. You know, because they at LA, theyA. They got a red eye to probably leave

and go wherever they're going at 10, 30, 11 o'clock. Right. They're like, hell, get out here, get a shower. We could be at the airport, get this red eye. We get home in the morning, 5, 36 o'clock. Right. We stepping off a plane.

But the Rams win 30 to 20 over the Vikes. The Vikes dropped their second straight game. They were undefeated heading into last week. No longer they lose. Two consecutive games. The fall to 5-2. Two good teams now. Two good teams. Two good teams. But obviously the Rams look

good tonight because they have everybody back healthy on offense. Oh, Joe, the Detroit. That goddamn, hey, that goddamn, Jeff, before we go on with that goddamn Justin Jefferson man yeah man Lord have mercy well

you know they find a way to get him the ball Ocho he in this offense is what Cooper Cup is in the Rams offense when Cooper Cup

because that's what Kevin O'Connell came from and so they find ways to get him the ball they put him in the slot they'll stack him they put him in motion

they line him up outside now he lines up way more outside than Cooper Cup does And so they find ways to give him the ball. They put him in the slot. They'll stack him. They put him in motion. They line him up outside. Now, he lines up way more outside than Cooper Cupp does. Cooper Cupp is mainly a slot, mainly the motion guy. But they will do a lot of different things with Justin Jefferson. He's a good route runner. Cooper Cupp is a really good route runner. Because the thing is, when you play in this offense and they're going to throw you this many balls, Ocho,

you've got to be a good route runner because the quarterback got to know where you're going to be. You can't be drifting. You can't be doing your own thing because he's going to get – Jefferson's going to get somewhere between 150 and 175 targets. Hey, could you imagine? No, I can't imagine. So I don't even want to talk about it.

Could you imagine with them kind of that many targets or that many catches? Like I look at – I think the most catch they had in the season was 97. Yeah. 97. And I just think about, I look at some of the, some of the players, you know, 144, 133 catch. I'm like, well, God damn, I'm crazy.

If I was in that type of offense, what would my numbers had been if I was able to get that many opportunities to catch the damn ball. Like, that's crazy. The way the game has changed, you know. Well, you're going to get more hits. Well, it's hard to give somebody those kind of targets when they mainly play outside. If you look at the guys that normally get that kind of catches,

they normally play a lot of the slot. You look at AB. You look at the slot. You look at AB. You look at Michael Thomas. You look at Cooper Cupp. You look at the guys that get those kind of catches, Ocho. You ain't just playing outside because I can't scheme. I can't diagram enough plays outside the numbers. I've got to get you some catches in the middle between the hashes.

I've got to get you, you know, some jailbreak screens. I've got to get you a lot. I've got a hundred. I mean, screens. I've got to get you a lot I've got a hundred I mean, what? A hundred and eighty a hundred and ninety targets, Ocho? That's a lot of damn targets, man. That's at least ten to eleven targets a game.

Right. I mainly played on the outside. I didn't do much damage on the inside. TJ Husnazada obviously was an animal. He was an animal. He was an animal in there being able to rezone. Honestly, and I can be honest with you, there's a certain being inside like that,

it was a certain uncomfortability for me. Yeah. You know, I don't know why. There's a lot of car wrecks in there. Yeah, I enjoyed being on the outside. Man to man, you double team, and sometimes even with a double team the first person obviously if there's a double team and you're playing 55 man to whatever it might have been the person in front of me didn't exist yeah he didn't exist most of the time even with the double even with the safety shaded over on the hash carson knew

whatever the route concept might have been the person in front of me did not exist. Yeah. No, I'm going to beat him. Oh, man. And that's what I told John. I'm running everything off the safety. I'm going to beat him with my technique. Yeah. I'm going to beat the second guy with the throw. Bingo.

Bingo. I got him. Don't worry about him. I got him. You take care of the safety with the throw and i think that's one of the reasons why i didn't play on the end play on the inside much because you didn't really have to put me in there for me to be able to get open so if teams came in the game saying you know what we take you out the game no matter what we're not allowing you to do anything there'll be certain time where carson will go off script and right before i leave the huddle i'm coming to you anyway he just whispered i'm coming to you anyway so that that let me know okay whoever whoever's in front of me within arm's reach

it don't matter you don't even count because i'm running everything off the safety at that point and obviously just like you said carson with his arm was always able to you know the throw would beat the second man every time yeah i think and the thing is like i said, Carson with his arm was always able to, you know, throw and beat the second man every time. Yeah. And the thing is, like I said, when you play in the slot, you got to be really technical sound because you can't drift. Because a lot of times if you drift, that's going to be a headache for you. Because the quarterback got to protect you a lot.

Because a lot of times you don't see. And you see a lot of times when guys back shoulder the slot guy, he's trying to tell you there's danger in front of you bro i'm saving your headache i'm saving you for having them come on the field and asking are you okay where do you hurt yeah what's hurting you know i'm saying i'm trying to save you because a lot of times the quarterback can see what you can't and a lot of those collisions are instantaneous you catch bam at least ocho when you outside you got some time but if you notice you look if you notice, you look at Edelman, you look at the guys that played the

slots, the West Welkers, the Cooper Cubs, those guys, a lot of times it's catch, bang. Bang, bang. And so, you got to really, really take care of your body in there, because you're going to get hit a lot of times. And a lot of times, it's going to be, you know, you're going to get hit and you don't catch it.

So, hey, they try to put hats on you regardless because they want to make it like, okay, damn, I don't know if I want to go back in there and catch that other one. But this Detroit hangover is a real thing. Teams are now 0-5 after playing the Lions this season, as the Vikes did this past Sunday. So after you play the Lions, go on and chalk that thing up. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company,

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, Joe, life at the Cowboys practice facility is undergoing a lot of scrutiny this week. Big old profile on Jerry Jones and life at the Cowboys facility in general dropped on ESPN. The article focuses on how the Cowboys fans are allowed to tour the team's facility with a level of access that doesn't exist

anywhere in football. These tours come at the expense of the players' unhappiness and comfort. Several former Cowboys told ESPN that the tours were one of the biggest distractions of working in Jerry's world and contradictory to the Jones stated goals

of ending the 29-year Super Bowl drought. The article, of course, comes with more than a couple of tone-deaf Jerry Coats quotes. It's gold. When those players go through our complex out there and see the fans, I ain't never seen nobody at work got excited. Because normally it happens on your day off. They don't normally have tours during the week.

Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Normally, Ocho, normally. I don't know how it is. I can only speak two places. I've been to Denver. I've been to Baltimore. Normally, it's Tuesday. Or they'll come as we're starting to trickle out of there on a Saturday.

Right. But normally not when it's a normal work day. You're not having that. Jerry says, you know, the fan, the player, they love it. They love it. I've never heard any complaint. Really, Jerry? Hey, boss, let me tell you, I got a problem with you.

I don't like the way you do, but come on, Jerry. They're not going to say nothing. But again, Jerry is the greatest salesman of all time. I've never heard any complaints about the tours from staff. I've never heard any complaints about the tours from staff. I've never heard any

complaint of the tours from staff members or players. Not one time. But the most important thing is it wouldn't make any... Thank you. Think about what he said. He said he's never heard a complaint about the tours from staff members or a player. Not one time. But the most important thing is

it wouldn't make a difference anyway. Period. Because overall, they're swimming against the stream. If you search the article the word zoo, it comes up three separate times. These tours apparently generate close to $10 million annually, which is why

I keep saying, why does Jerry care if he wins the Super Bowl when he's going to generate $300 to $400 to $500 million regardless? Why does Jerry care if he wins the Super Bowl when he's going to generate $300 to $400 to $500 million regardless? Why does he care? Every year? Every year. Hell, he's getting $300 million just from the TV deal. Now you see, this is

separate from the TV deal. He has a deal with a local radio station. He has a deal with a TV station. AT&T has the naming rights. That's probably $20 million a year. All the other rights, the stuff that you see up in the stadium. He has his own individual merchandise deal. So he prints his own T-shirts.

Somebody makes a great catch. Somebody makes a great run. Zeke jumping over somebody. Zeke eating. Jerry prints those shirts. Boom. They out just like that. Yeah.

So what's the incentive to win? Ocho, if you can make, let's just say for the sake of argument, you and I caught a cut different. I got to go to work. But most people, you say, you know what? Whatever your salary is, we're going to double it and triple it, and you ain't got to go to work. I'm going.

I got to do something. But a lot of people say, hold on. You going to pay me to do nothing do nothing see Jerry don't make money see it doesn't bother Jerry if he doesn't win he gave y'all that sweet keep the fans now I can't tell the fans how I really feel it's like he said even if the players complain even if staff

members complain it's not gonna make a difference right so that's the problem Jerry nobody gonna tell you the truth. I heard Dak say, nah, it don't bother me. Dak, stop. You know he can't say what he want to say. Exactly.

I get it. You got to be PC. You got to. You ain't have no choice. Especially him. And if you there, you got to be PC. That's why a lot of these guys, excuse me, that are no longer there, it's an issue. Bro, I ain't trying i ain't

trying to i ain't trying to say i'm there to work it's not a zoo it's not it's not an amusement park right well it oh it is jerry's world is it it is for them it is for him but normally that's a place of work we're going to work let's hold on how many times do you hear players say let's keep the main thing the main thing same thing come on but the main thing the main thing to them is these tours and the money that it generates right because i saw it had a package you could play 30 you could play 50 or 70 or 90 yeah and it's all the time so you mean to tell me you couldn't do this on a saturday you can't do this on a Saturday? You can't do this on a Monday?

You got to do this on a workday? Because yeah, they're like, oh, I get a chance to see. I got a chance to see. I saw the back of Dak's head. Oh, I saw this guy.

And that's why because he's doing it when the players are actually there, then you can ask. Your asking price can be a little bit more because now you have access

to be able to have visual contact or maybe even speak to the players. So it's different. So basically, Jerry's World is no different than Jurassic Park when they had the tour. Goddamn movie. Same concept.

Same concept. If I go on a safari, Ocho, I want to see the elephants. I want to see the lions chase down the wildebeest or the gazelle. I want to see the cheetah get something. I'm going to see the elephants. I want to see the lions chase down the wildebeest or the gazelle. I want to see that. I want to see the cheetah get something. I'm going to see the hippopotamus.

I want to go see the big five or the big seven, whatever, the cape buffalo, the rhino, the hippo, the elephant, the lion, whatever the case may be. I want to see that. So if I pay for that excursion,

I'm expecting to see that. See, you better than me. You can't put me on the excursion. You can't put me safari because i'm gonna be the one out the goddamn car you ain't getting out that car i ain't worried about that i'm gonna be i'm gonna be the one out the car trying to pet shit i bet you won't because i'll let you huh hey guess what and all you're gonna see is real hey think about that think about this look see is real think about that think about all the crazy stuff out there you ain't do it Ocho

you're not in a zoo that's not a petting zoo that's real life that's what makes it that much more exciting yeah you ain't getting that in the car I know you rode the bulls but see the lions eat bulls what you think they do to people? Hold on. I ain't say nothing.

I ain't getting out by no lions, man. What you getting out to do? Everything else. Everything else you said, I'm... Hippopotamuses are more dangerous. The river horse is more dangerous than the lion because it's so territorial. Let me tell you something about hippos. They ain't got no lateral movement.

They run faster than you think. Oh, run about 20 25 30 miles an hour yeah that's in a straight line i said they ain't got no lateral movement hey remember how baby d was shaking uh maybe how baby d you know and friday was shaking um no what's the ice cube was uh uh day they were shaking baby d oh shit they were shaking baby d that's how i was gonna hit both yeah stop playing stop playing with me. You do the right thing. Just sit there sitting the Jeep that doesn't have a cover on it and just admire the beauty of the great land of Africa.

Cause that's what I'm going to do. That's what I'm going to do. I ain't trying to pet nothing. I don't go to the zoo. Look at the pet. Nothing. When they say you go to the zoo where I haven't been to the zoo in a while, but when they say don't tap the glass,

I ain't tapping the glass. Yeah. When they say don't feed the animals, don't, I don't, I haven't been to the zoo in a while. But when they say, don't tap the glass, I ain't tapping the glass. When they say, don't feed the animals, I don't feed them. I listen to what they say. I ain't trying to be no hero. I ain't trying to make no news. Oh, I did this. I did that. The first thing they do, just like when they

ended up killing Harambee, that big silverback. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep your eye on your kids. Man, that was messed up. He ain't bothered. First of all, he shouldn't have even been in that boat. That's first and foremost.

I hate to see the animals. I hate seeing them in there. I like to observe them in their natural habitat. Habitat, right. Yeah, they want to roam. These animals want to roam. They want to roam. These animals want to roam. I mean, they got... Lions can travel hundreds of thousands of kilometers.

A day. And he go... All they can do is, uh-oh, rock in there and, uh-oh, that's him. He lit. No. But, you know,

when you think about it, I think about captivity, you know, it's not a good thing. I'm not for it especially when it came to killer whales being in captivity oh yeah yeah understanding how they're treated but i think about all the people that love would love the opportunity that don't have the resource or the income or the revenue to be able to see some of these animals in their natural habitat

natural geographic that ain't their natural habitat. No, I said they don't have the resources to fly and go see them in their natural habitat. Good, that's okay. There are a lot of stuff we ain't gonna see. Right, right. But that's like, so in a sense, I kind of kind of feel a little sympathetic for those that can't

and have the ability to go to a zoo and see animals that they would never be able to fly to Africa or out the country to be able to see in their natural habitat. That's all, but I'm really not for captivity. I ain't either. I was reading where a killer whale, wasn't it San Antonio?

The killer whale started pooping in the water and just started splashing it on people. I said, get up! I wish I could have been off to the side pooping in the water long, long, long with it so he could splat. Get y'all ass up out of here. Yeah.

But Jerry, boy, Jerry, Jerry, man, Jerry just don't get it, Ocho. He don't. So you know what? Let him live his life as the ultimate P.T. Barnum, the greatest salesman, one of the greatest salesmen ever. And that's what he is. But he doesn't realize, he realizes,

he knows he's in the way, but he can't help himself. He wants that credit. He wants that adulation. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see. I want to know, does anybody know if he had these tours when Jimmy was there? Or when did they start these?

Wait, I don't think it started until they got the Jerry's World. Oh, yeah. I think that, no, that's not a Jerry's World. That's at Ford. That's at the Ford complex. Huh? The Star. That's what they call it, the Star. But it is sponsored by Ford. Doesn't Ford have their name on the building?

Yes. You see? Oh, you see? AT&T and Ford. So he got two big sponsors right that's right because he got a car he got a car he got the ford car sitting inside this okay you're right you're right cowboy drama doesn't stop there mike mccarthy clapped back at jerry in rare inter-management spat. Whoa, whoa, whoa. He did? First on Tuesday, Jerry went on the radio show saying, we're designing bad plays or we're designing bad concepts. The fact

that there's so much of that, but there's also some execution issues. There's some of it, of the talent. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, he said, I like our talent. I really do like our talent. I bet you do because you selected it. You're never going to, Ocho, more times than not,

people are not going to say it's my fault because if he said he didn't like the talent, what would that be? A direct indictment on him because he picked the talent. Mike McCarthy seemingly took the critique personally and responded to reporters on Wednesday saying, I talk to Jerry all the time. We have to go through self-scout. So I didn't see the comments personally. It responded to reporters on Wednesday saying, I talk to Jerry all the time. We have to go

through self-scout. So I didn't see the comments specifically. I don't think we have bad concepts and bad plays. I'll go back and check. You know what I mean? What did Suge Knight say when he got on stage? If you want to make a lot of money

and don't want somebody dancing to your videos, come to Dev Row. And people think Bill Belichick, if Mike McCarthy doesn't work out there, you think one of the greatest coaches of all time will come and join that circus so he can look like a clown too? No.

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But I remember, hold on. Ocho, do you remember just a week ago when Jerry Jones threatened a man when he was asking him about not signing Derrick Henry and some of the other things? You remember how Jerry snapped on him? Yeah, he was hot. He quit to point the finger. We're designing bad plays, a bad concept. You don't he? Yeah, he was hot. He quit to point the finger.

We're designing bad plays, a bad concept. You don't know the difference. You don't know the difference between a screenplay and a screen porch. So what the hell are you talking about? Jerry, you fooled people long enough. They hand you a sheet of paper. It says, okay, these are the guys that were scouting.

Jerry ain't watching no damn film. You don't think so? Oh, no. So you don't think, you know what, I'm glad you just said that. How many owners in the NFL are actually football guys? I'm talking about literal football guys. Even if they are football guys, they're not

watching film. Okay, yeah. John Mara, he grew up, his daddy founded the Giants. He ain't watching no tape. The Roonies. Okay. Their dad and granddad foundedants. He ain't watching no tape. The Roonies. Their dad and granddad founded that. He ain't watching no damn tape. Right, right, right, right. First of all, you know Miss Virginia McCaskill.

Hell, she's 90-plus years old. Her daddy was George Hallis. You know damn well she ain't watching no tape. Right, right, right. But they do have the green light to sign off on the players that they bring in and who they want. Yes. But Will McClay and the scouting department is doing all of that. And they hand Jerry a sheep. Now, he might say, well, I like this guy better than that guy.

But he ain't done no damn scouting. Jerry Jones ain't going to no seat. He might go down to Senior Bowl to drink. He go to the combine to drink and have the guys there. But Jerry, come on, man. Y'all know how this work. See, Jerry won't. I remember I said this.

He wants all the credit for the success and none of the blame. Now, he ain't say nothing about, oh, it's the concept. It's the play design. What about the players that you gave him? What about the running backs? You got three running backs backs and Derrick Henry got 400 more yards than all three of them.

How many more touchdowns does he have? Oh, but Derrick Henry wouldn't do that in our offense. Why? Because you know why? Because y'all dumb enough to not to know how to use him. You see what you see with Baltimore did? Put his ass in the capital I and not so much the offset

so we can maximize what Derrick Henry is. Right. That's funny. Why would I use a shower curtain for a carpet? That's not what it was made for. You see, Jerry, that just goes to show me. You don't know football. You just be talking.

And you convince people. Just because a lot of times people have a lot of money. People think they smart. And Jerry is a fabulous businessman. I will not take that away from him because he's worth almost 16 billion dollars. But Jerry don't know football. Yeah. And just because you I'm the general manager and I can do a great job, do a great job at what? I tell you what, you so smart, fire Will McClay. Tell Will McClay say, you know what, I don't want you to do no more scouting. Tell your scouting department, y'all take

the month, y'all take the year off. I got this. And let's see what you do. Hey, you know, you had a good one in there too. Now you're not going to get away with that one. What you said about that shower curtain again? Let me put that in my notes. I ain't got my pen and pad.

No, Ocho. I'm just saying what I'm trying to say is that you got to use the person or the item for what you purchased it for. Now, shower curtain is meant to be you use it as a shower curtain. You don't use it as carpet. You don't use it as a throw rug. So Derrick Henry is an eye back. Baltimore's scheme is

basically offset eye, zone read. But they said, you know what? We're not getting our bang for our buck with Derrick Henry. Lamar's done a great job compromising some of his game because he plays better in the zone read, but look at what the look out his office.

Look, since they put D Henry in the eye, right? And it mainly in the offset. I, and the zone read against Kansas city, some of that against the Raiders, but that man heals at eight.

Let him see he's sitting there. He can see the whole field because it's hard to see when you're on one side to see what's going on that's why I put him in the eye and I could oh he could scan he could look he looking straight ahead but out of his peripheral he can see okay I see wherever this thing where this thing is going how they're flowing you see what he

did to put him in the eye they tossed it the other night when he went 81 he saw Winfield Jr. coming down go ahead bye hit them burners on him other night when he went 81. He saw Winfield Jr. coming down. Go ahead, bye. Hit them burners on him. Went 81. Now, he didn't see the corner that came from the far to far.

It was on the offense's right, so it's the defense's left. He didn't see him until it was too late. But dude was booking. He met him at a point. Because when Henry was on this side, you could see it, Mocho. They were all 22. You could see it. I'm going to met him at a point. Because when Henry was on this side, you can see it, Mocho. They were all 22. You can see it. I'm going to intercept him at a point.

I don't even think, what you call him, sorry, me, Aguilar. Because Aguilar was running, and he didn't see him until it was too late. By that time, Henry had already passed him, and then he took his legs out from under. But, yeah, that just goes to show me. Dak took accountability today for the Dallas slow start offensively.

I say I played average below and average isn't good enough to wear right now by any means. It's never been good enough for me. I can't say that I've been happy or excited

after any of these games that I've played. I can play better for sure. And I expect to completion percentage in 2023. He had, he was second

at almost 70% in 2024 he's 24th pass yards he was third with four over 4,500 right now he's sixth he's tenth excuse me but don't let that fool you because think about how much they've been behind and they had to throw the ball to get back into the ball game uh pass attempts per game, he was a pass yards attempt. He was 6th at 7.7, 7.2, which is 17th. Pass TDs, he was 36th, tied for 1st. He is 8th

right now, tied for 15th. Touchdown interception ratio is 36-9, which was 2nd. Right now, he's 8-6, which is tied for 23rd. His passer rating was almost 106, and now it's 85.5, which is almost 86%, which is 21st. So you can see his numbers are down really across the board.

And like you said, he's played average. I think he's played below average. Right. But you put a lot of pressure on your quarterback, Ocho, when you have no resemblance of a running game. And you ask him to just drop back and throw the ball time after time after time. And teams have said, you know what? Really, you only got one weapon.

You don't have anybody else at the skill position that can beat us. You don't have a running back that can beat us. And I like Ferguson, but you don't have a tight end that can beat us, and you don't have anybody outside of CeeDee that can beat us. Yeah, right. So we're going to double him, and we'll take our chance with Tober. We'll take our chance with Ferguson. We'll take our chance with those three running backs

because we don't believe anybody outside of CeeDee can beat us. Offensive line don't block particularly well. They don't run block particularly well. They don't pass block particularly well. So, boy, you're in a bind. You got to be able to do one or the other pretty good, don't you? I say, well, hell, you know, as bad as the Cowboys have played defensively,

as bad as they were, as subpar as the offense has been playing as well, I see them actually coming out the bye and having a good game. Having a good game against the 49ers, who do have a good defense, but they're depleted on the offensive end by so much.

This is a game that the Cowboys can win. It's a game that they can win, especially if they can get ahead. I think they're going to be fine. So if you're a betting man, listen to me. You know, I'm not saying I have the script or anything, but I know and I have a feeling that the Cowboys are going to come out. They're going to win this game and probably string of, you know what of I'm not going to say string a few games along, but coming off the bat, I think they're going to win this game against the 49ers. How are they going to protect them against

Leonard Floyd and Bosa? How are you going to protect them? And even though they might not have them, the one thing the 49ers can still do is run the football. What can't the Cowboys do? Stop the run. They stop the run. What can't the Cowboys do? Stop the run. They stop the run. So, I think the 49ers

feel good. Obviously, they'd love to have their weapons on, so you're down Debo, you're down IU, you're down Jennings. You might be down Kittle, who has a sprained foot. We'll see how that thing plays out. You're without Christian McCaffrey, but you have a solid running game. But

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Everybody know him. That's Busta. What he do? Good work, Shannon. How you, family? Boy, I'm great. Life is good. Life is good.

God is good. God is great. It's amazing. I'm good. God is good. God is great. It's amazing. I'm busy. I'm working. But what we want to talk about is this project that you got dropping on 11. What's the date? It's 11-29-24.

November 29th, 2024. We're dropping this new album. It's called Dragon Season. I'm officially announcing this for the first time on your show. Ocho Cinco salute. Shannon Sharp salute. Congratulations also on winning the award for the biggest time on your show. Ocho Cinco, salute. Shannon Sharp, salute. Congratulations also on winning the award for the biggest podcast ever on the BET Hip Hop Awards and all of that.

We got to get you on, Buff, though. We got to get you on, bro. We cannot even complete this year without me coming and sitting in the throne and wearing that crown and talking that shit. Looking forward to it, and I salute you generals tremendously. And thank you for having me on tonight to talk about this new album and all

of the greatness that's going on with all of us. Well, he won't that smoke. Oh, Joe said he'd been in the lab with a pen in the pad. He said, I'm looking for you. Hey,

I'm listening. I'm listening to all of this talk. It sound great though. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Listen, it's one thing, it's one thing I always do,

but you know, you know me, you know, I like to talk a bit. One thing when I do talk it, I do thing I always do, but you know me. I like to talk but one thing, when I do talk, I do walk it. Now, when you put a mic in front of me, my penmanship is phenomenal. My penmanship is phenomenal. If you know, every time I visit New York, I always go around Harlem.

I go to the Bronx. I go all the boroughs to try to find all the battle rappers just to put them in their place. And they lucky if it wasn't for football, I'd probably be the best lyricist of all time. And I go for you, too. I got to laugh at that. That's just like a fancy song.

Still trying to get right. Sound good. I'm going to keep it a buck with you. Like I was saying a little earlier, you know, and I'm really not into being like a type of dude to repeat myself because I ain't no parent. You know, but I like to reiterate shit. I'm with every type of smoke. You know what I'm saying? I'm still waiting on a versus. And I want you to know, Ocho, I'm going to bust your shit front, backwards, sideways, left, diagonal, acute angle, obtuse angle.

However way you want to smoke. You know what I'm saying? I'm with the cigarette smoke. I didn't want to know what type of smoke you with, no bus. I'm with the cigarette smoke, weed smoke, the forest fire smoke, house burning down smoke. Whatever type of smoke you want, I'm with it. So, with that being said, if you want

to still stay on this particular topic, because you're going to lose in this conversation alone even before we get to the bars and shit. Or you want to start talking about something else? Come on, O.J., what we doing? Listen, one thing you're not going to do, you're not going to out-talk me. You're not going to out-talk me. That's my game and that's my lane.

I've always been famed for doing just that kind of game. So however you want to do it, we can do it. Because when I'm done with you, you're going to be a shoe with no laces. This ain't what you want. Say that again. Say that again, bro. I didn't hear that. Listen, this is my

game and I ain't talking about no fame. When I'm done with you, you're going to be a shoe with no laces. I'm going to have you grabbing your fingers by your faces. They don't play with me man What you talking about Your head and your ass Oh man

Yeah What you want to do I'm going to show you better than I can tell you After I finish plugging this project Once again everybody In the whole planet Please be clear Busta Rhymes.

I'm not taking my foot off the gas pedal. Nobody can't breathe. Fresh off of the Out of This World tour with my sister Missy, Mr. Mina Elliott, my sister Ciara, my brother Timbaland. One of the most incredible and successful tours for the entire 2024. I got to also just let it be known that my brother, Tribe Called Quest and my beautiful sister, Mary J. Blige, the queen of hip hop, R&B and soul, all just got inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this last Saturday.

All of these names have been a part of my legacy. I've been deeply into woven into their legacies and all of them in some way, shape, fashion has formed mold in me to become and evolve into what I am currently. And all of that is being some way, shape, fashion or form molded me to become and evolve into what I am currently and all of that is being put into this new album Dragon Season dropping 11-29-2024

Thanksgiving night, the morning of Black Friday y'all all know what to do not playing no games, we ain't showing no mercy and you know I think everybody just start, you know just thinking they plan and start readjusting with their next move and their best move is going to be because no mercy. And, you know, I think everybody just start, you know, just rethinking their plan and start readjusting what their next move and their best move is going to be. Because

like I said, prisoners is expensive. You know, when you compete, not just want to put them in the ground. You ain't got to harbor nothing. You ain't got to shelter nothing, close nothing, feed nothing. Just put it in the ground. So that's really what we're going to do when it comes to this music. And in that aspect,

everybody just needs to be careful because they know what time it is when it comes to bus rhymes. We got the love. We're going to be givers of love. But when we're respectfully competing, smacking DNA out of everybody's pores of their skin, that's really what the bottom line is.

When it's all said and done. Real talk. So, Buzz, going back because you come up in an era where guys competed guys you saw ll and cool modi you saw guys going at each other so you had no problem with what transpired this summer with kindred lamar and drake drake oh absolutely not i thought it was great i thought it was like for the sport and for the art of respectfully competing, you know, battles can be very disrespectful. Yeah. And, you know, for us, as long as it stays on. Yes, it's it's it's it's fun. It's entertainment. And it's also, you know, still sharp and still because it can happen to anybody. So, you know, if you're really in this thing and you're trying to classify yourself as a thoroughbred MC,

just make sure at any given time when somebody call your name and want to make sure that you're about what you say you're about, that you can get in your business. And that's really what it is. And it just was great to see it and it actually to me might have been probably one of the most incredible battles that I've ever seen since the inception of the hip hop culture I have Fat Joe I have Fat Joe and Fat Joe said

he was disappointed with J. Cole because they called him off the porch and he didn't come Joe says that when somebody calls you off the porch you got to see what they're talking about so Busta, somebody called Buster off the porch. You going? There ain't never been a time that I'm not going or that I haven't went.

You feel me? As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, if there ain't no vehicle to pull up to the goal, then the Uber or the Lyft better be on deck. We pulling up. You better believe that shit. I look forward to shit like that.

And I enjoy it because again as long as it's respectful competition and everybody know we ain't gonna take it beyond that i live for those moments because i come from everyone it wasn't no you know it wasn't on internet and it wasn't no social media platforms and you know you really didn't even it wasn't even about the mixtapes it was just about when you outside and motherfuckers see you and they could spit. If a motherfucker, no matter where you was at,

you could be in front of a pizza spot. If a dude want to pull up and start carrying on, like he won't smoke, you got to be with the shit. And that's the way that you actually got your buzz. It was word of mouth. It was people actually being in a moment in real time, watching motherfuckers get

busy as real MCs. And that's what I come from. I don't know it no other way. You know what I'm saying? I still live by that. I don't fix what ain't broke. I ain't here to change no rules. I ain't here to abandon the foundation this shit was built on. I might add a few floors to the skyscraper, but we're going

to stay with the foundation this shit was built on though. Right. Buster, being an OG, give us some of your inspiration because you in the era, you from the NYC, you from where it started. So who were some of the guys that Buster looked

up to and was like, man, I like that. That's me. That list is long, but I'm going to go through a few of the names. Rakim, Slick Rick, KRS-One, Run DMC, that that's me that list is long but i'm gonna go through a few of the names rock kim slick rick krs1 run bmc ll yeah yeah chuck b um this monkey um and i'm gonna take it i'm gonna i'm gonna move a little forward let's let's let's go from that generation to the generation after they lostlight Soul, Tribe Called Quest, Das FX, Far Side,

you know what I'm saying? Diggable Planets, let's say Slum Village from the D, Detroit. Yeah. Let's move on to the next generation. Let's go to, let's go to,

uh, Eminem. Yes. Kanye. Um, even Pharrell. Cause everybody thinks Pharrell just make beats. Pharrell is one of the most venomous MCs.

When he ready to put his pen to the paper. Um, got the salute Snoop dog all day, every day, even on Sunday. Snoop Dogg is dangerous as hell with it too. And let me just big up J. Cole. Let me

big up Kendrick. Let me big up Tyler, the creator. Let me big up... Did I say Slick Rick earlier? You did. Slick Rick was in that first group. He, KRS-One, Rock Him. Yeah, yeah.

And I'm going to be honest, man. I love some of these new MCs, too, from the now generation. Like, I'm a fan of Connie Donnan. She's incredible to me. I'm a fan of, I hope I'm saying his name right. This brother's name is Ohesavant. He's like one of them underground MCs that is one of the most lethal MCs that I've heard in a long time.

The incredible female MC and just dope MC, period. Rhapsody. Missy Elliott, my twin. You know what I'm saying? She's the first female MC to ever be inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to this day. You know what I'm saying? She's the first female MC to ever be inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to this day.

You know what I'm saying? But beyond just emceeing, she produced, she's responsible for writing the songs for your favorite artists, some of the biggest records to this day. That's why I don't see Missy Torrance too much, because Missy getting so much bags from writing everybody else's, she can sit at home and chill with her feet up. So, salute

to Missy, too. And I got a big up Rod Digger the first time. Yeah, Rod. Got a big up Rod Digger. She's unbelievable. And the one thing that I like about these female MCs, which is it almost feels like an injustice to call them a female MC, is because I know a lot of dudes that don't even want no smoke with them. So they're just incredible MCs. It ain't even about them being females.

But, you know, we say that because that's just the term that we was raised to describe our female MCs as. But if you're really asking me, I just think that they dope MCs without the prefix of the female part added to MC. I just think they are really some of the most dangerous pens and overall just brilliant minds and genius artists, period. You know what I'm saying? But again, like I said, my list is long and I'll keep going and going and going. There's also another new artist

by the name of Trillian that's incredible to me. You know what I'm saying? BK Gutter, T-Money, J-Doe. It's like I just like to keep my finger on the pulse of everything and just pay attention to all the different MCs that's not only surviving the test of time,

no matter how the music or the culture or the genre or the sound, not the genre, the sound might change. That's a testament to the resilience and the consistency and the ability to evolve of the elder statesmen and a veteran artist but i love to make sure that i'm in tune with what's new and fresh because

at the end of the day i also realize that as a elder statesman myself you can't put a timeline on greatness right and we got to show them better than we could tell them when we say that we got to prove that we're able to mean that by not only being dope in every era but being in tune and being aligned with every every every era of the game i got people blowing my phone up seeing us on this stream right now everybody want to call me right now niggasas, leave me alone. But in any event, in any event, my thing is, my thing is what is extremely important

is that we walk in our purpose and we embrace the newer artists and we give them the information and we school them and we lift them up and we support them and make sure that we are establishing a,

a gelling and a glue and a bridging of the gaps and killing that narrative about how you know we ain't really the respect ain't there the way it's supposed to be the respect is there tremendously

I think the people that's creating that narrative is the ones that's afraid of that mutual respect that our generations have because they know we're going to empower them and make it less likely for these uh culture vultures to rob them and take advantage of them so right you know i'm a i'm a big advocate of not only doing it myself which is why i work with a lot of dope new mcs but i'm a big advocate of making sure that my peers that are also elder statesmen do it.

You know, say, oh, I got a big up Queen Latifah, big up Shaw Rock, one of the first female MCs ever. I'm bugging. I'm leaving off names. As they come to me, I'm going to just start blurting it out. But, you know, that's something that's important primarily to me at this time in my career, working in our purpose and making sure that

we did it for the new artists the way they was there for us. Like Chuck D gave me my name. You know what I'm saying? Chuck D gave us the name leaders of the new school. Big Daddy King used to let me come to his crib and ask questions.

He put me on his albums. You know what I'm saying? He put me on his Prince of Darkness album and let me rhyme on a joint called Come On Down with me and Q-Tip. You know what I'm saying? These

brothers really was like, they gave us guidance. They helped give us the understanding that you got to move a certain way. You know what I'm saying? You got to rep the culture a certain way. This shit got to be done with integrity. You know what I'm saying? It's almost weird because

it's like, at that time if an mc wasn't really a mc that was respected by the culture or had the right credibility you know we're not like that now but back then we were so pro the culture and the the the the infrastructure and the laws and the principles and the the the morale and trying to be on the right side of the moral compass of the culture that if you wasn't done or was an MC in the culture, we could be in the same spot. Motherfucker want to introduce you to him, you wouldn't even want to go get

introduced to him because you ain't even want to be seen standing next to nothing that got whack juice on it. So it's kind of like it's the same thing now, but not as intense because we understand it's a different day, it's kind of like it's the same thing now but not as intense because we understand it's a different day it's a different time but it's always important to encourage mcs and artists that you know a lot of artists they do the rap shit they're not really looking to be you know mc and deep dive into the whole thing about overthinking lyrics and

being super surgical with the bars and all of that. Because again, it's a different time and it's simple. The thing is working for a lot of people. And when it's working for them, it's hard to tell them to fix some shit that ain't broke. Exactly. They get in the bag doing it their way, boss. That's a fact. And I respect that. And they could be doing

some bullshit in the street. So I'm going to support anything that anyone is doing that is going to be pro-life, pro-self-preservation, pro-giving other people opportunity once you're put in position to be the opportunity provider. But we also got to make sure that we uphold the integrity of the culture because we got to make sure people that's coming in this shit and doing shit that's going to add to the culture. Life. Add life to it. Add integrity to it. Shift the climate in a productive way. Make sure that we could all still be proud of

this shit. You know what I'm saying? Don't just come in here and try to use this shit just to get what you want for you. Make sure you're doing this shit with that intent but also knowing that this shit is helping you get everything for you. It sure you're doing this shit with that intent, but also knowing that this shit is helping you get everything for you. It's because of it why you're able to get all of this shit for you.

So make sure you be mindful and give a lot back to it. You know what I'm saying? Yes. I want to ask you this, Buzz. You collab with a lot of people. I mean, Janet Jackson, that song that you have with Janet and you've collabed with a lot of people. Who's out there that you song that you have with janet and you've collabed with a lot of people are they any who's out there that you haven't collabed with that you'd like to jump on the beat with um got his hand up bud yo ocho you sure you ready bro

yeah i'm ready i'm ready i'm ready because we can do this record like i said though i don't want you i don't want no friendship with you while we're in the booth bro okay okay okay okay so as long as you respect that then we're gonna get in you while we're in the booth, bro. Okay, okay, okay. As long as you respect that, then we're going to get in this. I respect that. I'm ready. All right, let's get to it. Y'all stay tuned for the Busta Busta and Ocho Cinco collab. Yeah.

Hey, I want you to do him too now, boss. Do him. Don't let him. Don't let him. Hey, don't turn him loose. Do him. Yo, Shannon, I live by what I say. My word, bro, regardless of who or what.

So I'm telling you, you're going to see it. I'm going to show y'all better than I can tell y'all. Yeah. When he get his ass busted, I still put the song out. The disclaimer, I'm putting it out there from now that we're not going to let Chad. We're not going to let Chad do this. Yeah. No, we're not going to let Chad.

We're not going to let Chad do the shenanigans where it's like, after he get his whole shit disintegrated in the booth, you know, we're not going to let him do the, you know, I don't think the song should come out because, you know, I don't know if I'm really proud of my performance or no excuses. It ain't going to be no cop and clean. It ain't going to be none of that, bro. So whatever we end up with, if you want to go back and rewrite, that's fine. You know, I done did songs with artists where we send each other the verses. And, you know, when one motherfucker feel like they're getting cooked, they go back and start adding shit. And then, you know, when you feel like you've got to go back. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.

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What you talking about, man? I mean, I'm trying to see What you talking about Everybody know what I'm talking about I've been talking And showing improvement For 34 years I ain't seen shit

From your side of The motherfucking fence, playboy Where you Where you at? Where you at right now? Right now I'm in the west coast Moving and shaking You know, it don't really matter. I'm on the West Coast. I'll pull up

on you right now. What's happening? Okay, cool. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to get off this. When we finish with this, I'm going to let you know the studio I'm at because I'm actually going to the studio right now. That's what I'm talking about, boss. Get him. I'm going to the studio now. Get him, boss. The session started since 8 o'clock, bruh. Okay.

That's what we're doing. I'm going to see you tonight. Wait, hold on. You in L.A.? I'm in L.A., bro. I'm in L.A. right now. I'm in Westwood. Good. You five minutes from where I'm at.

I'm in Westwood. That's what I'm talking about, bro. Yeah. Get him. Get him. Yeah. I'm in Westwood, bro. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So y'all heard it first. You know, Shannon said, who's the MCs that you may work for that you want to work with. I guess, you know,

Ocho Cinco was the first one and I ain't worked with that. We talking about now. So that's number one on the list. I haven't worked with big Sean yet. You know, I haven't recorded with, uh, uh,

me and Jake Cole. We, we, we got something, but I ain't, I ain't put it out yet. But, you know, I still want to do more work with J. Cole. I'm a big fan of J. Cole.

I'm a huge fan of Kendrick. I did work with him, but I want to do more with him. But I definitely want to work with Connie Diamond. I definitely want to do some work with these brothers called Coast Contra. They some new emcees from the the West coast and they are phenomenal. It's like, I see myself in them when they get busy. Want to definitely work with those brothers.

Like it's like the way they perform and the way they, the animation is like, I see young Busta Rhymes when I look at them, you know what I'm saying? And I definitely want to get busy with those brothers. So big up to Coach Contra. And there's a bunch of new dope MCs that I want to get with and really cook some dope shit in the studio with.

And maybe even just executive some of their projects, executive produce some of their projects. You know, just be able to be a, even if you're not actually collaborating on records together i just feel like with all of this incredible information that i've been blessed to receive over the years and throughout time i just want the opportunity to just just share that shit give the dudes and the females the artists that's really doing anything the opportunity to just take this information and make it theirs and evolve that shit into something

else, that's even more magic for the culture. That's the type of shit I'm on. You know what I'm saying? Buzz, let me ask you this. Yeah. Give me your NYC, your New York, Mount Rushmore. You get four hands, Buzz. You get four. Put four on there. Who you got?

Nas is number one. Rakim is number two. I got two spots left. You got two spots, boss. Make it good. KRS-One, Big Daddy Kane. You got LL. You got Hove.

You got to come on with it. Why is it only four, man? Because that's all we got on my Rushmore. This shit is all we got. I tell you what I do. Since it's you, I give you five spots. Give you five. All right, cool. Nas, no, Rakim, Nas, Big Daddy Kane.

Big Daddy Kane, that's three. You got Biggie, you got Ho, you got KRS-One. Do I include me? You can include you. You can. Busta Rhymes is on that motherfucker. And the last one is going to have to be a toss up between Hove and Big. Okay. I like that.

It's going to have to be a toss up between Hove and Big. Word. You know what? I got one question before you go. All right, King. What's the best advice you received throughout your career? The best advice you received throughout your career and who gave it to you? The best advice that I've received out of my entire career and my life for that matter was that the Most High has blessed me with every single gift imaginable and unfathomable and don't ever be selfish enough

to sit your ass at home and wait for that same God to come and give you food because you already have every blessed gift that could be bestowed upon you to go and get it for yourself and so many others. And once I realized that, I was told, understand that power and it comes with great responsibility because you are made in the likeness of the most high, which means you are almost like the most high. Go out there and show the people and show the world better than you could tell them that you are in the likeness of the most high period and i like and that and that came from my mom's

from a christian perspective because she was 70 adventist christ she is 70 adventist christian excuse me she's still here rest in peace to my. But I also got that from this brother that was a part of the 5% Nation of the Gods and Earths, and his name was God Khalid Fala. And when I was around 12 years old, I used to watch the Transformers on TV before I went to school in the morning. And I used to watch

Voltron and shit before I went to school in the morning. And these cartoons would come on between 7 o'clock in the morning and 8 o'clock. It's just like a half an hour each. So like, you know, when you're sitting in a crib and you're looking at the TV and you're seeing the Transformers, for example,

and you see Megatron and he's flying down from space and all these superpowers this robot got and Optimus Prime and Soundwave and Starscream and all of them, right? And then you're looking at these dudes with these names as these robots on TV and they're super powerful. And it's the Transformers.

But then you leave out the crib and you go to the little store on the corner. And all of the corner stores in the hood was owned by Spanish dudes. And we didn't know everybody's name in the deli so everybody's name was poncho so you're like yo poncho it could be a female he'd be like excuse me sweetheart poncho could you get me some charleston chews or could you give me some bubble yum candy or you know so what would happen is the guards would be in front of the store early in the morning and they would be over there with names like lord victorious and supreme justice and magnetic divine and you know these names reminded

me of the transformers and shit and then they was talking about how fast the sound traveling how much the earth's weighing and and and what's the total square mileage of the planet and the total square mileage of land and water. And I was looking at them like, I come from out of space. Y'all talking about, I took them out. How much the earth weighting,

they didn't teach us this shit in school. We are getting this shit from, and they was called the gods. And this is where I was learning a lot of things from that. Nowhere else was teaching young black youth at the time about who you were as black people. storing to this information because it felt like i was really being powered up like a pac-man video game when you eat the power pellet because i had information that i was storing just from listening to these dudes talk that would take me to school or that i would go to school with and i would start questioning teachers in the shit that they was you know whatever their curriculum was that they

was teaching and it didn't matter if it was social studies or science class or math. And I would really get into some shit like, why you don't, why you teach us the same shit about Frederick Douglass and Martin Luther King and Malcolm X every month? Why you won't teach us about these brothers that I know about

from the street corner, from these brothers that I'm building with or that I'm seeing building with each other? And why you always talk about, you know, things that it's like a repetitive thing. Like it ain't even about the growth. It's almost like forcing the stagnation on us because it ain't,

you ain't teaching me shit that's really useful in anything in life. Like it would just intrigue me. So I would question shit and then it would seem like I would. So I would question shit. And then it would seem like I would be in the disruptive challenge school. Right. I was being disrespectful to the curriculum and I was being told to stop interrupting and stop asking questions. It just made me feel like,

all right, this is really not a pro me establishment, but you know, we're going to still go on. We're going to do what we got to do, but I'm going to get this information and I'm going to apply it. And I'm going to share it through the other ways and other, other abilities that I have.

So from making music to making sure that I get to communicate with my peers and share the information when I see them, making sure that I'm able to give it to the generations after me. That's how I feel like I'm doing my duty and fulfilling my obligation with walking with my purpose in life. And I just feel like it's important to apply that even outside of that level of information and science, when it just come to common sense and right and wrong, share that shit with people so they have the right perspective because, you know,

30 seconds of impulsive emotional shit that you can't or that you're not controlling the right way at the time could become a 30-year sentence in jail. So, you know, as my brother Shabazz would always say,

you know, that 30 seconds of not controlling your emotion that could put you in jail for 30 years, learn how to just master that. And a lot of times it just takes a good couple that 30 seconds of not controlling your emotion that could put you in jail for 30 years. Learn how to just master that. And a lot of times it just takes a good couple of conversations to change the whole dynamic of someone's perspective and way of thinking.

Buss, we got to get you out of here on this one because we got someone else in the chat. No problem. We appreciate it. Go check out Buss. He's dropping his album, 11-29-24. Dragon Season. Thanksgiving. Dragons. There he is on the screen. Dragon Season. Dragon Season. Thanksgiving. Dragons. Dragon Season.

Buss, we appreciate it. TV, film, music career. Continued success, my brother. We'll see you down the road. Thank you, Shannon. Thank you, Chad. Salute. Yes, sir. Chad, for real, send me that line. Let's get in the studio. Don't run from me now, sucker. Yeah. I got you. Get Buss.

Get him. I got you. Sal Buzz. Get him. I got you. Salute. Appreciate that, Buzz. Love y'all. Love. Guys, we got another guy in the chat right now. Is he ready to go?

We got another guy in the chat. No, we're good. He's like two seconds. We're two seconds away. Guys, we really hope you guys enjoy Buster Rhymes. Met Buzz on a couple occasions.

He's unbelievable. He is a man of his word. He, hey, just like you hear him talk, that's him. That's his voice. He's unbelievable. He is a man of his word. He, hey, just like you hear him talk, that's him, that's his voice. 24-7. Hey, that name Busta Rhymes, there was an actual guy named Busta Rhymes.

He was a running back at the University of Oklahoma. I remember it. The Volume. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there.

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