Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Cordae joins the show, Jaleel White catches heat, iShowSpeed vs. Tyreek

Episode Date: December 14, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top pop culture moments of the week. Top stories include rapper and singer-songwriter Codae joins Unc and Ocho on the show and talks a...bout his dram collabs and how local sports culture influenced him as a kid, actor Jaleel White is upset over “Family Matters” not being considered amongst the best black shows, iShowSpeed responds to Miami Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill and much more!03:00 - Cordae talks about the local sports culture influenced him as a kid05:00 - Cordae’s dream collab07:00 - Minki Howard’s experience with Anita Baker11:50 - Jaleel White catching heat17:00 - iShowSpeed responds to Tyreek Hill24:52 - Unc is in the market for some sports memorabilia30:53 - McDonald’s Snack Wraps are back31:41 - A woman offers a Christmas girlfriend package38:00 - Unc and Ocho talk break up recovery, Ocho might switch up his hair style before fighting Keith Lee(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:17 But so many dope. It killed my basketball dreams real early, first and foremost. Because you hooping against dogs every night dogs every night and i had i had a pup in me i ain't gonna lie with you i had a pup in me man and so it allowed me to really focus on making music full-time at an early age because i know i didn't have a chance with hoops man so on that sport but as far i mean redskins now the commander culture is crazy like i grew up watching santana moss j Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Sean Taylor, RIP. Watching you tear us up, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:53 Watching you tear us up, Ocho. And even the Wizards, you know, like, loved the John Wall, Brad Bill era. So I say all that to say because, unfortunately, the sports team, you know, Wizards had some good years. We had a couple good years with the Skins. We had a great year with the Commanders. But because those good years were so few and far between, it was real fans, like real deal fans. Like if you love the Commanders, you don't halfway like them. You love them.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Same with the Wizards. You know, right now we in the rebuilding phase. We got Bilal, you know, doing his thing. We got Alex Sa. Jordan Poo with the wizards you know right now we in the rebuilding phase we got balau you know doing his thing the alex saw uh jordan pool hooping you know so it i guess growing up more so of like that um even football we got stefan diggs you know the diggs brothers both from maryland as well stefan he hooped at maryland at the terms as well so um i mean this is a real big like just sports coach out there for sure who haven't you collab with give me your dream collab someone that you haven't been in studio with that like man i would love it can be male or female someone you'd like to be your dream
Starting point is 00:04:57 you know you took the words right out my mouth ocho you took the words right out my mouth i ain't gonna lie i'm glad you said it for me. But since you said it for me, I'm gonna take my second option. My second option. So my first, Ocho. Yeah. My second... Can they... Can we do Dead or Alive? I'm going
Starting point is 00:05:17 to the grave. Okay, I'm going to the grave. I'm going to the grave. Yeah, sure. I'm going Marvin Gaye. I love Marvin Gaye. I love Marvin Gaye. Yeah. Yeah. Is Al Green still alive?
Starting point is 00:05:33 I think he's still alive. He is. Okay. I don't know. Yes. Okay. I love some Al Green. I'm just going to the folks I sampled because it'll be cheaper than sampling them. I'm nodding.
Starting point is 00:05:41 If you guys saying this, folks, you know, excuse me. Marvin Gaye, Al Green. cheaper than sampling them i'm not and if you guys saying this folks you know excuse me uh marvin gaye al green and mike might not i don't know how me and mike will combine that's that's just the business side of me thinking honestly that's just all business thinking of mike when he's obviously one of the greatest of all time but yeah i'll green a marvin Gaye man oh you know a Barbara Mason now I'm going Barbara Mason all day wow do you believe do you believe Marvin Gaye is the greatest R&B singer of all time I gotta say he from Maryland
Starting point is 00:06:14 too DC just point that out there matter of fact you know before you answer that right and you think you think about that answer about Marvin Gaye being the greatest R&B singer of all time, I will say this. For those of you in the chat that have probably never seen it, Marvin Gaye sang the greatest Star Spangled Banner at the 1984 NBA All-Star Game. I've never, ever heard a Star Spangled Banner sing in that manner, in that type of tone.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Legendary singer and songwriter Mickey Howard shared a striking memory from the height of her career. After winning a Soul Train Music Award, she's a devoted fan of Anita Baker, saw her idol backstage expecting congratulations. She was instead met with sharp criticism, a sharp comment as Anita whispered, put that award on your mantle because it's the last award you're going to get. The remarks stung Mickey, leaving her with mixed emotions. Reflected on that moment, Mickey Howard explained how serious and competitive artists were in that era, particularly those who achieved legendary status. She noted that performers like Anita Baker, Chaka Khan, were intensely focused
Starting point is 00:07:26 on their craft with a passion that extended to even casual interactions like Chaka's unwillingness to lose at a game of cards. Chaka Khan, Anita Baker, Aretha Franklin.
Starting point is 00:07:41 So this divaism ain't just started because they want to make it seem like it just started with Whitney and Mariah and Beyonce. So this divaism ain't just started because they want to make it seem like it just started with Whitney and Mariah and Beyonce. So we're talking about before they even born.
Starting point is 00:07:51 The Patti LaBelle's of the world? Man, stop playing. What you talking about, man? Yeah. Hold up. Hold up. Didn't Anita Baker kick Babyface off her tour?
Starting point is 00:08:05 I don't know. Chat, help me. Chat, am I right? I think her and Babyface had a tour, and I think Babyface was getting a little bit more attention or praise or something, and I think she kicked him off the tour. Now, I could be wrong if I'm speaking out of place. Anita Baker was going at it with somebody.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I can't remember exactly who it is. Anita Baker and somebody. I can't remember. Another artist from back then. They've just been taking pop shots at each other on Twitter. Y'all, hold up. Y'all remember when they had, hold on, they had these women singing. I think it was Mariah.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I think it was Aretha. Yeah. They had Christina Aguilera. They had them all out there on choke. And they, hey, you're not fitting out to do me. I got that Aretha saying, y'all better stop playing with the queen now. Every time one would go, another would go higher. And another would go higher.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And another would go higher. Stop playing. Now we could do this all night. How y'all want to do it yeah so uh yeah oh listen and anything that everything is gonna be great when you want to be great at whatever it is that you're doing you know when it comes to music yeah hell it could be the corporate world if you're trying to climb that goddamn ladder, sports, football, basketball. I mean, that's just what it is.
Starting point is 00:09:29 You know, anything else that you're doing in life where you're not trying to be the best and the greatest at it, you're just wasting your time unless you're just doing it for a check. You know? Nah, them women, they want to be wanna be I mean Shaka and Patti LaBelle and Aretha I mean you know when you talk
Starting point is 00:09:49 yeah Stephanie hey yeah oh she hey that woman she by this tall
Starting point is 00:09:56 she got a son of lungs on her grass yeah hey go back that stuff that she did with uh
Starting point is 00:10:02 Teddy Pendergrass hey what's that y'all better stop playing a little Stephanie Hey, go back to that stuff that she did with Teddy Pendergrass Hey Y'all better stop playing a little Stephanie Hey, sometimes I come across them old You see them old women sing Old clips of those women sing I wish They just don't make them like that like they used to
Starting point is 00:10:24 I wish I was able to see Tina Marie live. Oh. Hey. I hope not to remember Tina Marie in an absolute crime. What you? Man, I got all that, man. Go back and listen to Fire and the Fire. We come from the same era of music, man.
Starting point is 00:10:41 You know? I remember when Kevin Reed was at an absolute apex on Rick. Talk about breaking I did not know until I was grown.
Starting point is 00:10:55 When you hear the voice, you would never know unless you see her. You would never know. Ain't nothing white. Oh, no. Ain't nothing white. Ain't nothing white about that.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Christina Aguilera. Christina Aguilera. Another one. Ariana Grande. Yay, Taz. Ariana Grande. Yeah. Tina Marie.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Were you going to say Melba Moore? Melba Moore. I do know about Melba Moore, man. Yes. Hey, Melba. I do know about Melba Moore, man. Yes. Hey, Melba. You follow me on Facebook. She always hit me up. Hey, Melba. How you doing? Yeah. I didn't know if I actually
Starting point is 00:11:33 ladies. Legends. Icons in the game, man. Oh, Joe. Jaleel White is catching heat online after saying he feels Family Matters is left out of legacy black entertainment and Family Matters always ranking last on the polls of favorite black shows underneath Martin and Feminine Single.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Whoa, whoa, I don't understand what you mean. If it's not a good story, it's not a black story. Family Matters is a legacy when it comes to sitcoms back in the day. Family Matters, Martin, is all under the same umbrella. I mean, I'm not sure what you're talking about a different world. I mean, need I, need I keep going living single? Um, I mean,
Starting point is 00:12:11 I mean, it just is. And what he can't worry about is when publications or media outlets talk about, let's talk about the culture, the culture in general, and how that show resonates with all of us when it comes to family. The Cosby show. Family, all that is under the same umbrella. Oh, absolutely. That wasn't nothing. And the Cosby definitely
Starting point is 00:12:33 wasn't no damn hoot. He's mistaken. I'm not sure where he's getting his information from. But, listen, it resonates with all of us. It was okay, but bro, it is.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Okay. Listen, it's okay, bro. You got, I think, I think the show was on seven years, seven years. You had a nice run. You can't concern. You can't concern yourself about how the culture feels about certain shows. It's okay. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:13:04 That doesn't make any less. You were phenomenal in the role that you played. Urkel is one of the roles that we'll remember forever. But I don't think many people think Family Matters
Starting point is 00:13:20 was as good a show as Martin. As good a show as Living Single. As good a show as A Different World. As good a show as... They're good a show as living single as good a show as a different world as good as show they're all special and they're all not they all it's okay different they all something different you know you know yes family matters was a family dynamic family dynamic built i mean the cosby show was a family dynamic now if you want to watch something else then you watch a different type of show that didn't give you that family dynamic. But it was fun. Family Matters was great, man, from top to goddamn bottom, man.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Life lessons, you know, all type of stuff they gave us, along with laughter. Yes. But it's okay. But look, I disagree. but it's okay but look i i like i disagree um i don't think because it wasn't a hood story isn't why it's ranked underneath living single and some of those other shows i just think those other shows were better that's just me now there are some people that say hey i like family matters and that's fine too but martin was appointment viewing living single was appointment Buick. Living single was appointment Buick. Right. It just was.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And ain't nothing wrong with that. I mean, Martin, people will still watch the eyebrows of Martin to this day. They'll be showing them clips. Your first time seeing it. Which is weird. And Martin's show, the Jamie Foxx show,
Starting point is 00:14:40 it just happened to be one of them ones. They were special in their own right. But that doesn't take anything away from what family matters, what to some people. It's all a preface to what you like. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:14:50 It was a good point. Right. I'll tell them what you wanted to fight Pam. Yeah. Lil' Roscoe. I mean, and Lil' Dudecoe? I mean, a little dude.
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Starting point is 00:19:18 and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of all I've found. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. I show speed response to Tyreek Hill calling him out man I'm tired of hearing your ish I pulled up on you at practice last time you didn't want to race me because you were scared let's do 100,000 40 meters oh shoot boy I ain't I show I show Speed going to have to get out of it. Listen, he's quick. But Tyreek's strength is his start.
Starting point is 00:20:13 He right now. Bam. He gone. That would be a good one. I mean, 100,000 speed ain't nothing. Man, look here. If I'm a professional, I'm ain't nothing. Man, look here. If I'm a professional, I'm not doing anything. I ain't pulling no hamstring.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I ain't doing none of that racing no cash. He's living his life. He's playing football. There's more to life than just football. There are other things outside of football. No. He hurt himself. He's going to have to pray.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Now what? What you going to say, Ocho? That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to get hurt on their job, on their dime. Because you do realize non-footballers, they put you on a non-football list. They ain't got to play. You realize that, right?
Starting point is 00:21:06 No, they won't. Ocho, I'll tell you what. I'll bet you now. I'll bet you if he hurts his hamstring, they will put him on, and he's not ready to go, they're going to put him on the non-football injury list. Why would you do, Ocho, tell me what does, I just want you to tell me this.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Tell me what does Tyree get out of this. It's still great content. He's in the NFL. There's nothing good coming out of this. There's nothing. I'm out of town. Kids have some fun. Oh, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Don't be a Debbie Downer. You got to live some, man. Sometimes, listen, outside of football, you got to spread your goddamn wings. It's okay. You're not going to get hurt. It's 40 meters. Tyreek been running since he was four years old. He going to be all right?
Starting point is 00:22:01 That's a different type of running, though, Joe. It's a drive. He's playing football right now. It ain't nothing but a drive fade. It's a go-round. It's a different type of running though, Joe. It's a drive. He's playing football right now. It ain't nothing but a drive fade. It's a go crowd. It's a go crowd. That's football. If he gets hurt playing football, he's covered.
Starting point is 00:22:21 It's just like how many guys you heard got hurt on jet skis, got hurt on skiing? I ain't never heard that. Never. Never. Especially someone that all they do is just run. That's it. And they run really, really fast. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:22:41 But here's the thing. There's a difference between running a 40 and even Tyreek running football because you have to understand, when you're coming out, Ocho, you're like, man, I got mad. That apple, that carrot is the NFL, and I got to get there, and I'm chasing it. I don't believe Tyreek can run 4-2. Like he did when he came out. run 4-2. Right now?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Like he did when he came out. No, he's not. You know, you... Right. Yeah. No, I'm not saying right now. I'm saying if he trained, if he would have trained, I don't believe he'd run that again.
Starting point is 00:23:15 He's going to run a 4-3, though, right now. Hey, you know the difference between 4-2 and 4-3? You know the difference? Yeah, I do. It's still a couple steps. You can reach out and touch.
Starting point is 00:23:29 You can still reach out and tap the 4-2 dude on the shoulder. It's like... I mean... No, the 4-2 dude is going to tap the 4-3 guy on the shoulder. The 4-3 dude ain't tapping the 4-2 guy on the shoulder. Yeah. But Ocho, but Ocho,
Starting point is 00:23:47 there is nothing to lose. You got to have some fun. Let them have some fun. They can watch content, man.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, you got content. Do you know how many highlight plays Tyreek got in the NFL? Oh,
Starting point is 00:24:04 he got content. I don't know the NFL? Oh, he got content. I don't know if you just saw. He got content. He don't need to get no more content. We don't need to talk about it, but he got great content. Over the last year and a half, he's produced great content. He's produced great content. Hey, he trying to outdo me, huh?
Starting point is 00:24:21 Hey, hold on, hold on. Wait, hold on, hold on. Hey, he think you slick. Hey, Ty, hey, Reed, hey, Peter, you think you slick, huh? Hey, hold on, hold on. Hey, he think you slick. Hey, Reed. Hey, Peter, you think you slick, huh? You think you... You ain't finna upstage me, boy. You ain't finna upstage me, because... Yeah. Hey, Tyree,
Starting point is 00:24:37 Future, Nick Cannon, all y'all trying to, you know, trying to stunt on me. Cheeto, he about to change his name to Bunnyrat. I'm coming to see y'all Cheeto, he about to change his name to Bunnyrat. I'm coming to see y'all. Wait,
Starting point is 00:24:48 hold on. Listen to me. Hey, your boy still making a show. I ain't even playing. Huh? I ain't even playing.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I might pop out 10. Yeah, like that. Well, how you doing, man? Oh, Lord have mercy.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Gow, gow. Hey, that boy was moving,? Oh, Lord have mercy. Gout Gout. Hey, that boy was moving, huh? Ranking Usain Bolt's world record as the fastest 16-year-old human. Gout Gout. Gout Gout ran 20.04 in the Australian All-School Championship in Brisbane on Saturday. Gout Gout broke Usain Bolt's world record. World 16-year-old of 20.13 seconds from 2003. Gout Gout turned 17.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I just like saying Gout Gout. Gout turned 17 on December 20th. Only man in history that have ever run faster at the age of 17, 20.4 at age 17 is Arian Knighton. He ran 1984, Boat ran 1993. These are adult times and me, just a kid, I'm running them, Gow said.
Starting point is 00:25:55 It's going to be great future, for sure. I mean, he's long. I mean, if you look at him, Bocho, he look like he's taller than six foot. He got a Usain Bolt frame. He's not as, I don't want to use the word thick. Pause. He's slender.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Yeah. Okay, he's 16. He's strong. You're putting weight on that. He's strong because in order to run and do what you're doing, you have to be able to hold and maintain the offense speed. Yeah, you got to hold it upright for him. He's nice.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love – I love – I mean – Right. I don't – I didn't love running per se, the type of running that you got to do to be a professional,
Starting point is 00:26:49 to be a track and field athlete. But I just love watching it. I love watching it, and I love seeing these young kids. It's kind of like the kids that run the 400, I forget his name, from Maryland. That's running, he's running 44, from Maryland that's running he's running 44 what he run 44 20 something I just love seeing these kids and hopefully
Starting point is 00:27:11 they don't flake they don't burn out because that's those are some really fast times at really really young ages like you said those are grown he's right those are grown men times and you're 16 still a teenager Arian Knighton you know turned pro hell he was like a He's right. Those are grown men times, and you're 16. You're still a teenager.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Arian Knighton, you know, turned pro. Hell, he was like a, what, a sophomore, junior in high school. He's like, what am I getting out of this? Let me go make me some money. Oh, yeah. I'll race y'all, but I'm getting paid for this. But congratulations, gal. I'm trying to think, what would I really want?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Sports? I need some sports memorabilia. Like something from, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like LeBron, some shoes, a Jordan shoes, Kobe shoes, a jersey or something. But I already got, I already got. I don't want no film stuff. Yeah, I got this 40,000 ball already. LeBron's boss. Hey, but it was so funny that night when I
Starting point is 00:28:05 when I turned the ball around and it said 1,000 points oh that was hilarious 28,000 man look here somebody just got a lot of money a lot of money man 28,000 dollars look here somebody just got a lot of money a lot of money $28,000
Starting point is 00:28:26 that you can't wear listen they're $28,000 now imagine what they what they're gonna be worth when they hold on to them for a few years there's no place
Starting point is 00:28:34 like home there's no place like home that's classic there's no place like home oh yeah you know
Starting point is 00:28:41 what kind of dog that was that Toto was uh wait don't say nothing don't say nothing he gotta be some tiger terrier oh yeah you know what kind of dog that was that Toto was uh wait don't say nothing don't say nothing you gotta be
Starting point is 00:28:47 some type of terrier wait wait wait wait wait Skarnix he is wait wait
Starting point is 00:28:54 wait Toto was was black right yeah I'm trying to think how many
Starting point is 00:29:01 terriers are there oh yeah that's a that's a crazy group, and they win more best in shows than any other group. Probably not.
Starting point is 00:29:08 You never know. Huh? He's a Caron. Caron? He was a Caron Terrier. K-E-R-R-Y? Caron. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:29:19 C. Okay. Damn. What do you mean? I told you I was the judge, remember? I loved it. What you mean? I told you I was the judge, remember? I went to the dog show. I loved it. It's one of the most fun events to be a part of.
Starting point is 00:29:35 The only thing I hate, man, because now I'm like, damn, I want that dog. I want that dog. I like to have that breed. I like to have that breed. Now you need a little bit of this. I really need to get a farm. You don't need no farm. You don't need no farm. Because you won't have time to tend to have that breed. Now you need a little... You don't need no farm. You don't need no... Because you won't have time
Starting point is 00:29:47 to tend to all the animals. I want me a little miniature cow, a miniature goat, a miniature horse. You know what's funny? I always wanted a ferret for some reason. I never did get one, but I always wanted a ferret. They just seemed so
Starting point is 00:30:03 cool. I don't think they live that long, Ocho. No. Animals, I mean, animals don't, I mean, especially when you like domestic, I mean, you got to understand, Ocho, like in the wild, they're not going to live long
Starting point is 00:30:15 because, you know, they get hunted, something eats them. So average. They should live longer if you domesticate them. No, that doesn't make no sense. No, I think like,
Starting point is 00:30:27 I know, but obviously if you do and then obviously, you know, they... Ash, when you get there and talk about Ash and Big Bo, look what you got on my...
Starting point is 00:30:40 Biofarb in Texas. Hey, if you move to Texas, I'm going too I'm saying we have the discipline at our big age where we can move to Texas and be okay and focus we can have a singular focus on work and nothing else
Starting point is 00:31:01 here's the thing it's like when you're recovering at it on work and nothing else. Here's the thing. It's like when you're recovering at it, whatever the case may be, let's just say, let's just say, let's just say, Ocho, I drink, and I'm alcohol. Ocho,
Starting point is 00:31:21 I gotta drive by a bar every day. I gotta drive by a package store every day. That's a good thing, huh? Because you know what? The more you do it, the more you drive by that bar, the more you drive by that bar and create that discipline not to go in, the easier it gets over time. If you and I move to Houston, listen, if you and I move to Houston, regardless of the jungle of beautiful, gorgeous, curvaceous women that they have out there at our disposal or at your disposal, I'm not available. But anyway, imagine the more you're able to do it, the more you see them, the more you see them out. You don't say nothing. And you got them blinders on like you're a horse in a Kentucky derby.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And you can't see nothing but nightcap. You can't see nothing but ESPN. You can't see nothing but club shea shea. Over time, it becomes easier. It becomes routine. Ocho, how many times you go into a restaurant and that guy hand you that dessert menu and you full and you order dessert or you order coffee I don't get dessert but I'm with you
Starting point is 00:32:30 when you say coffee thank you I'm with you when you say a latte exactly that's a completely different scenario based on what we
Starting point is 00:32:37 no no no I ain't going so well Houston is off forget it we ain't going. Houston is off. Forget it. We ain't going.
Starting point is 00:32:46 No. Yeah. Maybe, maybe I might be thinking about Nashville. Hey, I mean, listen. Nashville, Tennessee. I like Nashville simply for the music. Tennessee. The music.
Starting point is 00:33:01 The different genres of music, of live music you can go watch and attend, but to live, no. And it's an up-and-coming city that's getting much better. It's getting much better, but I don't want to live there. I don't want to live there. The music, the jazz, the jazz bar. I need focus. You can focus in Houston. I need to be somewhere I can focus.
Starting point is 00:33:24 You can focus in Houston. Everything need to be somewhere I can focus. You can focus in Houston. Everything is so clear, so crystal clear. Are you shy? That's where you want to go? Wait, wait, wait. What we got? What we got? What we got?
Starting point is 00:33:40 I know you're excited about this. McDonald's. McDonald's will bring back the snack wraps in 2025. But one thing they said it. He might not come when you want him, but he's always on time. He might not come when you want him, but he's always on time. On time. Well, McDonald's is bringing back the snack wrap, baby.
Starting point is 00:34:06 That's what I'm talking about. But the funny thing about it is, and the timing is great, is the fact that the snack wraps are coming back in 2025, and I can't even have McDonald's until the new year. See how... See how God works? He don't make... Hey, listen. So you be probably, that's right
Starting point is 00:34:22 on time. He don't make no mistakes. He don't make no mistakes. Ocho, a woman from your crib, Miami, has unveiled her Christmas girlfriend package on social media. She says, I'm providing a great service for the holidays for single guys. She wrote above the photo featuring three different packages. Okay, Ocho, Christmas package, girlfriend package, silver, $250. You get a present. You get two hours at dinner. Yeah, I'm saying no. You have to pay a $250, gift her a present. You get two hours at dinner with her. She'll wear a matching outfit and she'll tell you a few jokes. Okay. The gold package,
Starting point is 00:35:08 $450. She also gets a present, three hours at dinner, cute backstory of how you guys met, photo with the family. The platinum package, $600. Plus you have to give her a gift. You get six hours with her, with your family. All prior packages say, I love you in front of your family. A kiss on the cheek. I'll help you watch. Ocho, I'll help your mom with the dishes.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Hold on. 600. Close friends, close with your family. Hold on. For $600? And this is $600 American dollars. And all we get is the kiss on the cheek? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And plus you got to buy her a gift. Isn't that part of the package? Part of the $600 package was to give me a gift? Man, nigga, please. Yeah. Oh, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:35:59 My bad. Yes. Man, girl, you're going by yourself and hell no. You? I mean, she currently on your... Yes Man, girl, you're going by yourself Hell no You who? I mean, she curvy, Ocho You see her, she curvy, Ocho You can go to Instagram and find a bunch of curvy
Starting point is 00:36:12 Curvy, I'm not sure what That ain't nothing special That's a dime a dozen It's a thousand of them Matter of fact, you know what? Now that I think about it It's a thousand of them That ain't even charging that price Matter of fact Matter of fact You know what Now that I think about it What's your bank Y'all like
Starting point is 00:36:26 That ain't even charging that price Nothing Cause they might actually Like you What are they charging Okay Now you told me Now you've been telling me
Starting point is 00:36:42 For the last 18 months A uh Now that's what you told me Now all of a sudden you're telling me somebody's gonna like me for me yeah based on name and resume alone they gonna like you you ain't even got to do nothing which father guess what thank you and i'm naive enough. They don't like me for who? Did you forget who you just told me who I was, who I am and what I am? Are you sure that for me? You're right. They do like me for me. Matter of fact, you ain't even got to do nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You think so? I don't know that good that good little package whoa whoa whoa you just saying I mean but I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:37:31 that good little package the holiday is coming up why couldn't it be for you huh you ain't gonna try it mm-mm no hey and plus I ain't going home
Starting point is 00:37:46 so I ain't going to be with the family just for you and her for Christmas nah hey my family going to be Jordan and Ash going to be yeah yeah I might get that whole packet Yeah. Yeah. I might get that old package for Jordan.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Jordan, you want that platinum package? Jordan, don't be a bro-head like Birdman. Man. That's funny. I don't know what they got. Hey, look. Hey, Ocho, you keep saying the economy is bad. People try to make a hustle. The economy is bad.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Like, you hustling backward. Because it's the people that hurt customers, the customers that are going to be able to afford those packages, the deluxe, the platinum. Listen, they ain't going for what she got listed on there. You better raise it to a thousand and have something. That's not a Bitcoin
Starting point is 00:38:53 package. A happy something? Talk about a kiss on the cheek. Ooh. Damn. Talk about a kiss on the cheek. Like that shit about him? Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving into that. May is Mental Health Awareness
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Starting point is 00:40:25 I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide, and hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal
Starting point is 00:41:32 that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra,
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Starting point is 00:43:09 Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest
Starting point is 00:43:35 global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. Here's the thing with relationships. Yeah. It's always tough. The breakup is always tough. If you're not the one that wants to get broken up with. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:00 See, if you want to do the break it up, it's easy. Hey, I'm done. This ain't working for me. But when you want to be that and but at the end of the day if they're not trying to hear that I can't bet
Starting point is 00:44:11 I'm not trying to beg you now listen I ain't gonna run after you now I might I might I might jog a little bit you know I might
Starting point is 00:44:20 I might I might speed walk yeah yeah yeah you know but hey this this we talked about it last night I might speed walk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we talked about it last night with JR. You know, there are times in that pain and being in that fetal position and understanding that hurt that comes with that, something that was an intricate part of your daily routine.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Yeah, for sure. And having that gone, it can be rough. It can be rough. Regardless of how tough and how much pride and how much ego you got, you know, I don't wish that pain on nobody, man. Ocho. If it doesn't hurt hurt you didn't care enough come on Nash
Starting point is 00:45:11 I'm not telling you what somebody told me I'm telling you what I know because I invest a lot in whatever I do so that's why when I lost it hurt me
Starting point is 00:45:19 that's why I had to go home I couldn't be around people because I know what I put into that game not just the game that people because I know what I put into that game. Not just the game that week, but I know what I did that offseason. When you're in a relationship and you don't get the return or say the investment. You can't get that back
Starting point is 00:45:52 and then that individual doesn't want to be with you anymore. And then you start, then you start questioning yourself. So I'm looking in the mirror. Well, shit, what the fuck wrong with me? Look at me me look at this
Starting point is 00:46:06 who don't like this chocolate oh talk to me now and and what hurts sometimes Ocho is that as the thing is starting to fray they give you the worst of themselves but
Starting point is 00:46:24 immediately give somebody else the best of themselves. Ocho, I ain't doing it. Ocho, stop. Ocho, I'm done. I'm done, Ocho. I'm done. Hey, I'm done with this. I'm done. Let's just move on. Ocho, let's just move on. What are you talking tonight? Let's just move on, Ocho. Let's move on. So when things are
Starting point is 00:46:39 ending, they give you the worst of themselves and give the new person the benefit of the doubt and they get the the worst of themselves and give the new person the benefit of the doubt and they get the best version of them. Oh! Boy, if you had an awesome thing, boy, I'd give you $100
Starting point is 00:46:59 right now, boy. If you had an awesome burn right now, you could have my whole thing. Hey. Well, you appreciate it. Bro, I didn't look.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Oh, Joe, I know I joke a lot and but I've had, I spent a lot of time by myself and analyzing.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I'm very self analytical. I look at and I analyze things and I see things for what they truly are but they call me Creflo no dollars but but that I think
Starting point is 00:47:39 that's what really hurts and that's why like a lot of times Ocho like when you leave when you leave a relationship, you really have to, you really have to, like, let it go. You have to, like, I don't, you know, I can't follow because I've been that, Ocho. I know because I've broken up with people and gave them the worst of me and immediately gave somebody else the best. I've done it. Because I'm not telling you what somebody's told you, told me.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I'm telling you what I know and I'm telling you how human nature is. And so that's, and I remember and I'm thinking to myself, hey, you are now shattered. Why couldn't you be like that? Then it's tough, boy. Why couldn't you be like that then?
Starting point is 00:48:28 It's tough, boy. It's tough. It's tough, man. I remember in like yesterday, I made, look, and this is really the first time. I remember my homeboy. He called,
Starting point is 00:48:52 he said, homeboy, how you doing? I said, man, I ain't good. He said, homeboy.
Starting point is 00:48:58 He said, I know you will never, you would never ask me to, but if you need me to, I'll call on your, on your behalf. When somebody, when somebody that's close to you and they say, I'm willing to extend myself, I remember talking to my sister and she would always send me things every morning, every morning when I wake up, because obviously she's on East coast, I'm in LA. So by the time I get up at, you know, I was getting up because I had to be to work at
Starting point is 00:49:40 four Ocho. So I'm getting up at three 15. Cause I got to take the dogs out, let them do what they need to do. I need to take a shower and I need to get to work. So she would always send me these things. And I remember getting home and I was about to go to bed. I was about to take a nap after the show. And I remember she called me and she said, how you doing? I said, I'm alright.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I said, I'm alright, but... She said, Shannon. Yeah. It was quiet. She said, she said, how long you been, Shannon? Mm-hmm. I said, all my life.
Starting point is 00:50:22 She said, you've been big. You've been strong. You've been resilient. You've been strong. You've been resilient. You've been loving. You've been caring. Because this woman entered your life, you're still going to be Shannon. Don't let this situation change you, Shannon.
Starting point is 00:50:43 You're still going to be my baby brother, and I'm still going to love you. And it was, obviously my homeboys, Bucket and Burns, they called and they checked on me. But it was my brother and sister, because they're like my mother and father, even though we brothers and sisters
Starting point is 00:50:59 is the relationship that we have. And I remember this when it really dawned on me, Ocho, that I was really in a dark place. And my brother's never said this before and he's never said this to me since. He said, if you need me, I'll come out there.
Starting point is 00:51:17 At the time, how old am I? This was 2006. So I'm 48. Right. Yeah. 48, 49, about to be 40.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I was 49. He said, if you need me, I'll come out there. That's when it really dawned on me. I was like, damn, he really worried.
Starting point is 00:51:45 My brother really, he had never shown on me. I was like, damn, he really worried. My brother really, he had never shown me. Now I know later after talking to him, he's been other situations that he's been worried about me, but he never, but he never let me know that he was worried. That was the first time in 49 years that I could see, I could tell that he was worried.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Man, I remember, I don't know, what the heck? How long? How long? I'm good. Told my brother, I said, I'm good. He told me a while Ocho this happened
Starting point is 00:52:26 uh I'm talking about God damn I'm talking about six seven months though it did Ocho it did it did
Starting point is 00:52:44 hey boy that was but Ocho. It did. It did. Hey, boy, that was... Sunshine follows rain, Ocho. I'm better for it. As I look back, there are some things that I wouldn't have had I not...
Starting point is 00:53:01 Did that relationship not dissolve? I'm not here because i turned away a lot of things because i didn't want to be away from home because i didn't want to be away from her because you know she well i need to go make you know i'm turning down 50,000 gig because she's not comfortable. Help people up. And what he's, why does he want to be with you? Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:29 She started to believe like, yeah, why do you want to be with me? You're this and you can have this, that, that. Come on. I acted all that in when I decided to be with you. Do you not, do you not think about that then? Why is it an issue now? Stop worrying about why I chose you. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I did. Why is unimportant? Because in this situation, Ocho, yeah, I'm who I am. And you are who you are. But should I not love you just the same? Should I feel differently because you don't have this name? You don't have this title? I'm just, I was confused about why she felt that way.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Why? I hate when women ask me, you can have anybody. Why me? You know what? Now that I think about it, I promise when women ask me, you can have anybody. Why me? You know what? Now that I think about it, I promise you go try to find one of them. Anybody's right. And leave you to F alone because you're unsure of yourself,
Starting point is 00:54:33 which is going to make you unsure of us. And then long as there's doubt in your mind, you're never going to be able to fully give yourself to me. Yeah. But like you just said earlier, God don't make no mistakes. Haiti, 1987,
Starting point is 00:54:51 Chad, will you grow your hair back? Love you guys, man. Thanks. I will do. I was growing my hair back. Um,
Starting point is 00:55:00 if I go into campus, I'll be on campus in about three months. I'm looking forward to beating the shit out of Keith Lee. I'm not sure I'm going to schedule that fight, but when I do go into a fight camp, I will grow my hair out. Won't cut it. Look scruffy. I won't cut it until fight night. So at whatever point this comes into fruition, because he done broke the check, his ass can't cash.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Oh. into fruition because he done he done he done broke the check his ass can't cash oh yeah but you know sometimes Ocho when you dealing with situations and we'll get back to this yeah those shoes is that a lot of times it's the outside right because when I was in college all her girlfriends was in her ear right oh he ain't did I was like do, all her girlfriends was in her ear. Right. Oh, he ain't. I was like, do you understand?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Why are you over there? I ain't round about. I said, but you know your girl's trying to holler at me, right? Why they telling you you shouldn't be with him? I don't know what you see in him. They the same ones. When they catch me and you not around, they asking the same. I'm saying to myself, they're the same ones. When they catch me and you're not around, they're asking the same, I'm saying to myself,
Starting point is 00:56:08 they're asking the same questions. Why you with her? You can do so much better. As a matter of fact, you know what's funny? Is the one doing all the talking? Why you with him? You ever notice they're always single? You ever notice they never had nobody?
Starting point is 00:56:23 They're bouncing from pillar to post or they bouncing misery loves company but they want you in the same situation they in no consistency
Starting point is 00:56:32 nobody you can depend on consistently come hell or high water you know well you know what I know he always gonna be there for me no matter what
Starting point is 00:56:40 and guess what while they talk about I don't know why I guarantee you right now they'll switch positions with you but they don't know why why you want to be with him but they'll switch positions with you and be with him I don't know why
Starting point is 00:57:01 women like that I ain't never been in no situation that's who you want to be with take off I don't know why women like that. I ain't never been in no situation. Yeah, enjoy it. That's who you want to be with? Take off. I ain't going to let you, I ain't going to let you, I ain't going to let you mess over my boy.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Now, if I see something, oh, I'm telling. Don't leave him. Don't leave his boy. Don't do, and don't be talking about, it ain't what you think. It's exactly what I think.
Starting point is 00:57:25 So whatever you think I think I'm thinking, that's what I'm thinking. ain't what you think. It's exactly what I think. So whatever you think, I think I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. I'm going to tell you. That's what I thought. The Volume. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi.
Starting point is 00:57:47 We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:58:16 In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:58:46 You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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