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How did the local sports culture, you know, influence you as a kid?
And did they in any way shape your competitive driving?
Yes, because, you know, PG County, where I'm from, they call it Basketball County.
You know, we got KD, Marquez Fools, Michael Beasley, Delonte West.
So many people I'm forgetting just off the top of my brain right now.
But so many dope.
It killed my basketball dreams real early, first and foremost.
Because you hooping against dogs every night
dogs every night and i had i had a pup in me i ain't gonna lie with you i had a pup in me man
and so it allowed me to really focus on making music full-time at an early age because i know
i didn't have a chance with hoops man so on that sport but as far i mean redskins now the commander
culture is crazy like i grew up watching santana moss j Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Sean Taylor, RIP.
Watching you tear us up, you know what I'm saying?
Watching you tear us up, Ocho.
And even the Wizards, you know, like, loved the John Wall, Brad Bill era.
So I say all that to say because, unfortunately, the sports team, you know, Wizards had some good years.
We had a couple good years with the Skins.
We had a great year with the Commanders.
But because those good years were so few and far between, it was real fans, like real deal fans.
Like if you love the Commanders, you don't halfway like them.
You love them.
Same with the Wizards.
You know, right now we in the rebuilding phase.
We got Bilal, you know, doing his thing. We got Alex Sa. Jordan Poo with the wizards you know right now we in the rebuilding phase we got balau you know doing his thing the alex saw uh jordan pool hooping you know so it i guess growing
up more so of like that um even football we got stefan diggs you know the diggs brothers both
from maryland as well stefan he hooped at maryland at the terms as well so um i mean this is a real
big like just sports coach out there for
sure who haven't you collab with give me your dream collab someone that you haven't been in
studio with that like man i would love it can be male or female someone you'd like to be your dream
you know you took the words right out my mouth ocho you took the words right out my mouth i ain't
gonna lie i'm glad you said it for me. But since you said it for
me, I'm gonna take my second option.
My second option. So my first, Ocho.
Yeah.
My second...
Can they... Can we do
Dead or Alive? I'm going
to the grave. Okay, I'm going to the grave. I'm going
to the grave. Yeah, sure.
I'm going Marvin
Gaye. I love Marvin Gaye.
I love Marvin Gaye.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is Al Green still alive?
I think he's still alive.
He is.
Okay.
I don't know.
Yes.
Okay.
I love some Al Green.
I'm just going to the folks I sampled because it'll be cheaper than sampling them. I'm nodding.
If you guys saying this, folks, you know, excuse me.
Marvin Gaye, Al Green. cheaper than sampling them i'm not and if you guys saying this folks you know excuse me uh marvin gaye al green and mike might not i don't know how me and mike will combine that's that's
just the business side of me thinking honestly that's just all business thinking of mike when
he's obviously one of the greatest of all time but yeah i'll green a marvin Gaye man oh you know a Barbara Mason now I'm going Barbara Mason all day
wow
do you believe do you believe Marvin
Gaye is the greatest
R&B singer of all time I gotta say he from Maryland
too DC
just point that out there
matter of fact you know
before you answer that right and you think
you think about that answer about Marvin
Gaye being the greatest R&B singer of all time, I will say this.
For those of you in the chat that have probably never seen it, Marvin Gaye sang the greatest Star Spangled Banner at the 1984 NBA All-Star Game.
I've never, ever heard a Star Spangled Banner sing in that manner, in that type of tone.
Legendary singer and songwriter Mickey Howard shared a striking memory from the height of her career.
After winning a Soul Train Music Award, she's a devoted fan of Anita Baker, saw her idol backstage expecting congratulations.
She was instead met with sharp criticism, a sharp comment as Anita whispered, put that award on your mantle because it's the last award you're going to get.
The remarks stung Mickey, leaving her with mixed emotions.
Reflected on that moment, Mickey Howard explained how serious and competitive
artists were in that era, particularly those who achieved legendary status.
She noted that performers like Anita Baker, Chaka Khan,
were intensely focused
on their craft
with a passion that extended
to even casual interactions
like Chaka's unwillingness
to lose at a game of cards.
Chaka Khan,
Anita Baker,
Aretha Franklin.
So this divaism
ain't just started
because they want to make it seem like it just started with Whitney and Mariah and Beyonce. So this divaism ain't just started because they want to make it seem
like it just started
with Whitney and Mariah
and Beyonce.
So we're talking about
before they even born.
The Patti LaBelle's of the world?
Man, stop playing.
What you talking about, man?
Yeah.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Didn't Anita Baker
kick Babyface off her tour?
I don't know.
Chat, help me.
Chat, am I right?
I think her and Babyface had a tour,
and I think Babyface was getting a little bit more attention or praise
or something, and I think she kicked him off the tour.
Now, I could be wrong if I'm speaking out of place.
Anita Baker was going at it with somebody.
I can't remember exactly who it is.
Anita Baker and somebody.
I can't remember.
Another artist from back then.
They've just been taking pop shots at each other on Twitter.
Y'all, hold up.
Y'all remember when they had, hold on, they had these women singing.
I think it was Mariah.
I think it was Aretha.
Yeah.
They had Christina Aguilera.
They had them all out there on choke.
And they, hey, you're not fitting out to do me.
I got that Aretha saying, y'all better stop playing with the queen now.
Every time one would go, another would go higher.
And another would go higher.
And another would go higher.
Stop playing.
Now we could do this all night.
How y'all want to do it
yeah so uh yeah oh listen and anything that everything is gonna be great when you want to
be great at whatever it is that you're doing you know when it comes to music yeah hell it could be
the corporate world if you're trying to climb that goddamn ladder, sports, football, basketball.
I mean, that's just what it is.
You know, anything else that you're doing in life where you're not trying to be the best and the greatest at it,
you're just wasting your time unless you're just doing it for a check.
You know?
Nah, them women, they want to be wanna be I mean Shaka
and Patti LaBelle
and Aretha
I mean you know
when you talk
yeah
Stephanie
hey
yeah
oh she
hey
that woman
she by this tall
she got a son of lungs
on her
grass
yeah
hey
go back
that stuff that she did
with uh
Teddy Pendergrass
hey what's that y'all better stop playing a little Stephanie Hey, go back to that stuff that she did with Teddy Pendergrass Hey
Y'all better stop playing a little Stephanie
Hey, sometimes I come across them old
You see them old women sing
Old clips of those women sing
I wish
They just don't make them like that like they used to
I wish I was able to see Tina Marie
live.
Oh.
Hey. I hope not to remember Tina
Marie in an absolute crime.
What you? Man, I
got all that, man. Go back and listen to Fire and the Fire.
We come from the same era of music, man.
You know?
I remember when
Kevin Reed was at
an absolute apex
on Rick.
Talk about breaking
I did not know
until I was grown.
When you hear the voice,
you would never know
unless you see her.
You would never know.
Ain't nothing white.
Oh, no.
Ain't nothing white.
Ain't nothing white about that.
Christina Aguilera.
Christina Aguilera.
Another one.
Ariana Grande.
Yay, Taz.
Ariana Grande.
Yeah.
Tina Marie.
Were you going to say Melba Moore?
Melba Moore.
I do know about Melba Moore, man.
Yes. Hey, Melba. I do know about Melba Moore, man. Yes.
Hey, Melba.
You follow me on Facebook. She always hit me up.
Hey, Melba. How you doing? Yeah.
I didn't know if I actually
ladies. Legends. Icons
in the game, man. Oh, Joe.
Jaleel White is catching heat online after
saying he feels Family Matters
is left out of legacy black entertainment
and Family Matters always ranking last
on the polls of favorite black shows
underneath Martin and Feminine Single.
Whoa, whoa, I don't understand what you mean.
If it's not a good story, it's not a black story.
Family Matters is a legacy
when it comes to sitcoms back in the day.
Family Matters, Martin,
is all under the same umbrella.
I mean, I'm not sure what you're
talking about a different world. I mean, need I, need I keep going living single? Um, I mean,
I mean, it just is. And what he can't worry about is when publications or media outlets
talk about, let's talk about the culture, the culture in general, and how that show resonates
with all of us when it comes to family. The Cosby show.
Family,
all that is under the same umbrella.
Oh, absolutely.
That wasn't nothing.
And the Cosby definitely
wasn't no damn hoot.
He's mistaken.
I'm not sure where he's
getting his information from.
But,
listen,
it resonates with all of us.
It was okay, but bro, it is.
Okay.
Listen, it's okay, bro.
You got, I think, I think the show was on seven years, seven years.
You had a nice run.
You can't concern.
You can't concern yourself about how the culture feels about certain shows.
It's okay.
It's okay.
That doesn't make any
less. You were
phenomenal in the role that you played.
Urkel is one of the roles
that we'll remember
forever.
But I don't think
many people think Family Matters
was as good a show as Martin.
As good a show as Living Single. As good
a show as A Different World. As good a show as... They're good a show as living single as good a show as a different world as good as show they're all special and they're all not they all it's okay different
they all something different you know you know yes family matters was a family dynamic
family dynamic built i mean the cosby show was a family dynamic now if you want to watch something
else then you watch a different type of show that didn't give you that family dynamic.
But it was fun.
Family Matters was great, man, from top to goddamn bottom, man.
Life lessons, you know, all type of stuff they gave us, along with laughter.
Yes.
But it's okay.
But look, I disagree. but it's okay but look i i like i disagree um i don't think because it wasn't a hood story
isn't why it's ranked underneath living single and some of those other shows i just think those
other shows were better that's just me now there are some people that say hey i like family matters
and that's fine too but martin was appointment viewing living single was appointment Buick. Living single was appointment Buick. Right.
It just was.
And ain't nothing wrong with that.
I mean, Martin,
people will still watch the eyebrows of Martin to this day.
They'll be showing them clips.
Your first time seeing it.
Which is weird.
And Martin's show,
the Jamie Foxx show,
it just happened to be
one of them ones.
They were special
in their own right.
But that doesn't take anything away from
what family matters, what to some people.
It's all a preface to what you like.
It doesn't.
It was a good point.
Right.
I'll tell them
what you wanted to fight Pam.
Yeah.
Lil' Roscoe.
I mean, and Lil' Dudecoe? I mean,
a little dude.
Man, listen, man.
Lil' Roscoe, yeah.
Martin was great, boy.
Martin was great.
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up on you at practice last time you didn't want to race me because you were scared let's do 100,000
40 meters oh shoot boy I ain't I show I show Speed going to have to get out of it.
Listen, he's quick.
But Tyreek's strength is his start.
He right now.
Bam.
He gone.
That would be a good one.
I mean, 100,000 speed ain't nothing.
Man, look here. If I'm a professional, I'm ain't nothing. Man, look here.
If I'm a professional, I'm not doing anything.
I ain't pulling no hamstring.
I ain't doing none of that racing no cash.
He's living his life.
He's playing football.
There's more to life than just football.
There are other things outside of football.
No.
He hurt himself.
He's going to have to pray.
Now what?
What you going to say, Ocho?
That's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to get hurt on their job, on their dime.
Because you do realize non-footballers,
they put you on a non-football list.
They ain't got to play.
You realize that, right?
No, they won't.
Ocho, I'll tell you what.
I'll bet you now.
I'll bet you if he hurts his hamstring,
they will put him on, and he's not ready to go,
they're going to put him on the non-football injury list.
Why would you do, Ocho, tell me what does,
I just want you to tell me this.
Tell me what does Tyree get out of this.
It's still great content.
He's in the NFL.
There's nothing good coming out of this.
There's nothing.
I'm out of town.
Kids have some fun.
Oh, come on, man.
Don't be a Debbie Downer.
You got to live some, man.
Sometimes, listen, outside of football, you got to spread your goddamn wings.
It's okay.
You're not going to get hurt.
It's 40 meters.
Tyreek been running since he was four years old.
He going to be all right?
That's a different type of running, though, Joe.
It's a drive.
He's playing football right now. It ain't nothing but a drive fade. It's a go-round. It's a different type of running though, Joe. It's a drive. He's playing football right now.
It ain't nothing but a drive fade.
It's a go crowd.
It's a go crowd.
That's football.
If he gets hurt playing football, he's covered.
It's just like how many guys you heard got hurt on jet skis,
got hurt on skiing? I ain't never heard that.
Never.
Never.
Especially someone
that all they do is just
run. That's it. And they run really, really fast.
Yes, sir.
But here's the thing.
There's a difference between running a 40 and even Tyreek running football
because you have to understand, when you're coming out, Ocho,
you're like, man, I got mad.
That apple, that carrot is the NFL, and I got to get there,
and I'm chasing it.
I don't believe Tyreek can run 4-2.
Like he did when he came out. run 4-2. Right now?
Like he did when he came out. No, he's not.
You know, you...
Right.
Yeah.
No, I'm not saying right now.
I'm saying if he trained,
if he would have trained,
I don't believe he'd run that again.
He's going to run a 4-3, though,
right now.
Hey, you know the difference
between 4-2 and 4-3?
You know the difference?
Yeah, I do.
It's still a couple steps.
You can reach out and touch.
You can still reach out and tap the 4-2 dude on the shoulder.
It's like...
I mean...
No, the 4-2 dude is going to tap the 4-3 guy on the shoulder.
The 4-3 dude ain't tapping the 4-2 guy on the shoulder.
Yeah.
But Ocho,
but Ocho,
there is
nothing to lose.
You got to
have some fun.
Let them have some fun.
They can
watch content,
man.
Ocho,
Ocho,
Ocho,
you got content.
Do you know how many
highlight plays
Tyreek got in the NFL?
Oh,
he got content. I don't know the NFL? Oh, he got content.
I don't know if you just saw.
He got content.
He don't need to get no more content.
We don't need to talk about it, but he got great content.
Over the last year and a half, he's produced great content.
He's produced great content.
Hey, he trying to outdo me, huh?
Hey, hold on, hold on.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
Hey, he think you slick.
Hey, Ty, hey, Reed, hey, Peter, you think you slick, huh? Hey, hold on, hold on. Hey, he think you slick. Hey, Reed. Hey, Peter, you think you slick,
huh? You think you...
You ain't finna upstage me, boy.
You ain't finna upstage me, because...
Yeah. Hey, Tyree,
Future,
Nick Cannon, all y'all trying to, you know,
trying to stunt on me.
Cheeto,
he about to change his name to Bunnyrat. I'm coming to see y'all Cheeto, he about to change
his name to Bunnyrat.
I'm coming to see y'all.
Wait,
hold on.
Listen to me.
Hey,
your boy still making
a show.
I ain't even playing.
Huh?
I ain't even playing.
I might pop out 10.
Yeah,
like that.
Well,
how you doing,
man?
Oh,
Lord have mercy.
Gow, gow. Hey, that boy was moving,? Oh, Lord have mercy. Gout Gout.
Hey, that boy was moving, huh?
Ranking Usain Bolt's world record as the fastest 16-year-old human.
Gout Gout.
Gout Gout ran 20.04 in the Australian All-School Championship in Brisbane on Saturday.
Gout Gout broke Usain Bolt's world record.
World 16-year-old of 20.13 seconds from 2003.
Gout Gout turned 17.
I just like saying Gout Gout.
Gout turned 17 on December 20th.
Only man in history that have ever run faster at the age of 17, 20.4 at age 17 is Arian
Knighton. He ran 1984,
Boat ran 1993.
These are adult times
and me, just a kid,
I'm running them, Gow said.
It's going to be great future, for sure.
I mean, he's long.
I mean, if you
look at him, Bocho, he look like he's taller than six foot.
He got a Usain Bolt frame.
He's not as, I don't want to use the word thick.
Pause.
He's slender.
Yeah.
Okay, he's 16.
He's strong.
You're putting weight on that.
He's strong because in order to run and do what you're doing,
you have to be able to hold and maintain the offense speed.
Yeah, you got to hold it upright for him.
He's nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I love – I love – I mean –
Right.
I don't – I didn't love running per se,
the type of running that you got to do to be a professional,
to be a track and field athlete.
But I just love watching it.
I love watching it, and I love seeing these young kids.
It's kind of like the kids that run the 400, I forget his name, from Maryland.
That's running, he's running 44, from Maryland that's running
he's running 44 what he run 44
20 something I just
love seeing these kids and hopefully
they don't flake they don't burn out
because that's those are some really
fast times at really really
young ages like you said
those are grown he's right those are grown men
times and you're 16
still a teenager
Arian Knighton you know turned pro hell he was like a He's right. Those are grown men times, and you're 16. You're still a teenager.
Arian Knighton, you know, turned pro.
Hell, he was like a, what, a sophomore, junior in high school.
He's like, what am I getting out of this?
Let me go make me some money.
Oh, yeah.
I'll race y'all, but I'm getting paid for this.
But congratulations, gal.
I'm trying to think, what would I really want?
Sports? I need some sports memorabilia.
Like something from, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like LeBron, some shoes, a Jordan shoes, Kobe shoes, a jersey or something.
But I already got, I already got.
I don't want no film stuff.
Yeah, I got this 40,000 ball already.
LeBron's boss.
Hey, but it was so funny that night when I
when I turned the ball around
and it said
1,000 points
oh that was hilarious
28,000 man look here
somebody just got a lot of money
a lot of money man 28,000 dollars look here somebody just got a lot of money a lot of money
$28,000
that you can't wear
listen they're
$28,000 now
imagine what they
what they're gonna be worth
when they hold on to them
for a few years
there's no place
like home
there's no place
like home
that's classic
there's no place
like home
oh yeah
you know
what kind of dog
that was
that Toto was
uh wait don't say nothing don't say nothing he gotta be some tiger terrier oh yeah you know what kind of dog that was that Toto was uh
wait don't say
nothing
don't say nothing
you gotta be
some type of
terrier
wait wait
wait wait
wait
Skarnix
he is
wait wait
wait
Toto was
was black
right
yeah
I'm trying to
think
how many
terriers are
there
oh yeah
that's a
that's a
crazy group,
and they win more best in shows than any other group.
Probably not.
You never know.
Huh?
He's a Caron.
Caron?
He was a Caron Terrier.
K-E-R-R-Y?
Caron.
Oh, damn.
C.
Okay.
Damn.
What do you mean? I told you I was the judge, remember? I loved it. What you mean?
I told you I was the judge, remember?
I went to the dog show.
I loved it.
It's one of the most fun events to be a part of.
The only thing I hate, man, because now I'm like, damn, I want that dog.
I want that dog.
I like to have that breed.
I like to have that breed.
Now you need a little bit of this.
I really need to get a farm.
You don't need no farm.
You don't need no farm. Because you won't have time to tend to have that breed. Now you need a little... You don't need no farm. You don't need no... Because you won't have time
to tend to all the animals.
I want me a little
miniature cow, a miniature goat,
a miniature horse.
You know what's funny?
I always wanted a ferret
for some reason. I never did get one,
but I always wanted a ferret. They just seemed so
cool. I don't think they live that long, Ocho.
No.
Animals, I mean,
animals don't, I mean,
especially when you like domestic,
I mean, you got to understand, Ocho,
like in the wild,
they're not going to live long
because, you know,
they get hunted,
something eats them.
So average.
They should live longer
if you domesticate them.
No, that doesn't make no sense.
No, I think like,
I know, but obviously
if you do and then
obviously, you know,
they...
Ash, when you get there
and talk about Ash
and Big Bo,
look what you got on my...
Biofarb in Texas.
Hey, if you move to Texas,
I'm going too I'm saying
we have the discipline
at our big age where we can move to Texas
and be okay and focus
we can have a singular focus on work
and nothing else
here's the thing it's like when you're recovering at it on work and nothing else.
Here's the thing.
It's like when you're recovering at it,
whatever the case may be,
let's just say,
let's just say, let's just say, Ocho,
I drink, and I'm
alcohol. Ocho,
I gotta drive by a bar every day.
I gotta drive by a package store every day.
That's a good thing, huh? Because you know what? The more you do it, the more you drive by that bar,
the more you drive by that bar and create that discipline not to go in, the easier it gets over
time. If you and I move to Houston, listen, if you and I move to Houston, regardless of the jungle of beautiful, gorgeous, curvaceous women that they have out there at our disposal or at your disposal, I'm not available.
But anyway, imagine the more you're able to do it, the more you see them, the more you see them out.
You don't say nothing.
And you got them blinders on like you're a horse in a Kentucky derby.
And you can't see nothing but nightcap. You can't see nothing but ESPN. You can't see
nothing but club shea shea. Over time, it becomes easier. It becomes routine.
Ocho, how many times you go into a restaurant and that guy hand you that dessert menu
and you full
and you order dessert
or you order coffee
I don't get dessert
but I'm with you
when you say coffee
thank you
I'm with you
when you say a latte
exactly
that's a completely
different scenario
based on what we
no
no
no
I ain't going
so well
Houston is off forget it we ain't going. Houston is off.
Forget it.
We ain't going.
No.
Yeah.
Maybe, maybe I might be thinking about Nashville.
Hey, I mean, listen.
Nashville, Tennessee.
I like Nashville simply for the music.
Tennessee.
The music.
The different genres of music, of live music you can go watch and attend, but to live, no.
And it's an up-and-coming city that's getting much better.
It's getting much better, but I don't want to live there.
I don't want to live there.
The music, the jazz, the jazz bar.
I need focus.
You can focus in Houston.
I need to be somewhere I can focus.
You can focus in Houston. Everything need to be somewhere I can focus. You can focus in Houston.
Everything is so clear, so crystal clear.
Are you shy?
That's where you want to go?
Wait, wait, wait.
What we got?
What we got?
What we got?
I know you're excited about this.
McDonald's.
McDonald's will bring back the snack wraps in 2025.
But one thing they said it.
He might not come when you want him, but he's always on time.
He might not come when you want him, but he's always on time.
On time.
Well, McDonald's is bringing back the snack wrap, baby.
That's what I'm talking about. But the
funny thing about it is, and the timing is great,
is the fact that the snack wraps are coming back
in 2025, and I can't even have
McDonald's until the new year.
See how...
See how God works?
He don't make... Hey, listen. So you be probably, that's right
on time.
He don't make no mistakes. He don't make no mistakes.
Ocho, a woman from your crib, Miami, has unveiled her Christmas girlfriend package on social media.
She says, I'm providing a great service for the holidays for single guys.
She wrote above the photo featuring three different packages.
Okay, Ocho, Christmas package, girlfriend package,
silver, $250. You get a present. You get two hours at dinner. Yeah, I'm saying no. You have to pay
a $250, gift her a present. You get two hours at dinner with her. She'll wear a matching outfit and she'll tell you a few jokes. Okay. The gold package,
$450. She also gets a present, three hours at dinner, cute backstory of how you guys met,
photo with the family. The platinum package, $600. Plus you have to give her a gift. You get six hours with her, with your family.
All prior packages
say, I love you
in front of your family. A kiss
on the cheek. I'll help you
watch. Ocho, I'll help
your mom with the dishes.
Hold on. 600. Close friends,
close with your family.
Hold on.
For $600?
And this is $600 American dollars.
And all we get
is the kiss on the cheek?
Yeah.
And plus you got
to buy her a gift.
Isn't that part of the package?
Part of the $600 package
was to give me a gift?
Man, nigga, please.
Yeah.
Oh, excuse me.
My bad.
Yes.
Man, girl,
you're going by yourself
and hell no.
You? I mean, she currently on your... Yes Man, girl, you're going by yourself Hell no You who?
I mean, she curvy, Ocho You see her, she curvy, Ocho
You can go to Instagram and find a bunch of curvy
Curvy, I'm not sure what
That ain't nothing special
That's a dime a dozen
It's a thousand of them
Matter of fact, you know what?
Now that I think about it
It's a thousand of them That ain't even charging that price Matter of fact Matter of fact You know what Now that I think about it What's your bank
Y'all like
That ain't even charging that price
Nothing
Cause they might actually
Like you
What are they charging
Okay
Now you told me
Now you've been telling me
For the last 18 months
A uh
Now that's what you told me Now all of a sudden you're telling me somebody's
gonna like me for me yeah based on name and resume alone they gonna like you
you ain't even got to do nothing
which father guess what thank you and i'm naive enough. They don't like me for who? Did you forget who you just told me who I was, who I am and what I am?
Are you sure that for me? You're right. They do like me for me.
Matter of fact, you ain't even got to do nothing.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Okay.
You think so? I don't know that good
that good little package
whoa whoa whoa
you just saying
I mean
but I'm just saying
that good little package
the holiday is coming up
why couldn't it be for you
huh
you ain't gonna try it
mm-mm
no
hey and plus I ain't going home
so I ain't going to be with the family
just for you and her for Christmas
nah hey
my family going to be Jordan and Ash
going to be
yeah yeah I might get that whole packet Yeah.
Yeah.
I might get that old package for Jordan.
Jordan, you want that platinum package?
Jordan, don't be a bro-head like Birdman.
Man.
That's funny.
I don't know what they got.
Hey, look.
Hey, Ocho, you keep saying the economy is bad.
People try to make a hustle. The economy is bad.
Like, you hustling backward.
Because it's the people that hurt customers,
the customers that are going to be able to afford those packages,
the deluxe, the platinum.
Listen, they ain't going for what she got listed on there.
You better
raise it to a thousand
and have something. That's not a Bitcoin
package. A happy
something? Talk about a kiss on the cheek.
Ooh. Damn.
Talk about
a kiss on the cheek.
Like that shit about him?
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Here's the thing with relationships.
Yeah.
It's always tough.
The breakup is always tough.
If you're not the one that wants to get broken up with.
Right.
See, if you want to do the break it up, it's easy.
Hey, I'm done.
This ain't working for me.
But when you want to be that and but at the end
of the day
if they're not trying
to hear that
I can't bet
I'm not trying to beg you
now listen
I ain't gonna run after you
now I might
I might
I might jog a little bit
you know
I might
I might
I might speed walk
yeah yeah yeah
you know
but hey this this we talked about it last night I might speed walk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we talked about it last night with JR. You know, there are times in that pain and being in that fetal position
and understanding that hurt that comes with that,
something that was an intricate part of your daily routine.
Yeah, for sure.
And having that gone, it can be rough.
It can be rough.
Regardless of how tough and how much pride and how much ego you got, you know,
I don't wish that pain on nobody, man.
Ocho.
If it doesn't hurt hurt you didn't care enough
come on Nash
I'm not telling you
what somebody told me
I'm telling you what I know
because I invest a lot
in whatever I do
so that's why
when I lost
it hurt me
that's why I had to go home
I couldn't be around people
because I know
what I put into that game not just the game that people because I know what I put into that game.
Not just the game that week, but I know what I did that offseason.
When you're in a relationship and you don't get the return
or say the investment.
You can't get that back
and then that individual
doesn't want to be with you anymore.
And then you start,
then you start questioning yourself.
So I'm looking in the mirror.
Well, shit,
what the fuck wrong with me?
Look at me me look at this
who don't like this chocolate
oh talk to me now
and and what hurts sometimes
Ocho
is that
as the thing is starting to
fray
they give you the worst of themselves but
immediately give somebody else the best of themselves.
Ocho,
I ain't doing it. Ocho, stop. Ocho, I'm done.
I'm done, Ocho. I'm done.
Hey, I'm done with this. I'm done.
Let's just move on. Ocho, let's just move on.
What are you talking tonight? Let's just move on, Ocho.
Let's move on. So when things are
ending, they give
you the worst of themselves
and give the new person the benefit of the doubt and they get the the worst of themselves and give
the new person the benefit of the doubt
and they get the best version of them.
Oh!
Boy, if you had an
awesome thing, boy, I'd give you $100
right now, boy. If you had
an awesome burn right now,
you could have my whole thing.
Hey.
Well, you
appreciate it.
Bro,
I didn't look.
Oh, Joe,
I know I joke a lot
and
but
I've had,
I spent a lot of time
by myself
and analyzing.
I'm very self analytical.
I look at
and I analyze
things and I see things for what they
truly are but
they call me Creflo no dollars
but
but that I think
that's what really hurts
and that's why
like a lot of times Ocho like when you leave when you leave a relationship, you really have to, you really have to, like, let it go.
You have to, like, I don't, you know, I can't follow because I've been that, Ocho.
I know because I've broken up with people and gave them the worst of me and immediately gave somebody else the best.
I've done it.
Because I'm not telling you what somebody's told you,
told me.
I'm telling you what I know and I'm telling you how human nature is.
And so that's,
and I remember and I'm thinking to myself,
hey,
you are now shattered.
Why couldn't you be like that?
Then
it's tough, boy. Why couldn't you be like that then?
It's tough, boy.
It's tough.
It's tough, man.
I remember in like yesterday,
I made, look,
and this is really the first time.
I remember my homeboy.
He called,
he said,
homeboy,
how you doing?
I said,
man,
I ain't good.
He said,
homeboy.
He said,
I know you will never,
you would never ask me to,
but if you need me to, I'll call on your, on your behalf.
When somebody, when somebody that's close to you and they say,
I'm willing to extend myself, I remember talking to my sister and she would always send me
things every morning, every morning when I wake up, because obviously she's on East coast,
I'm in LA. So by the time I get up at, you know, I was getting up because I had to be to work at
four Ocho. So I'm getting up at three 15. Cause I got to take the dogs out, let them do what they need to do.
I need to take a shower and I
need to get to work. So she would always send me these things.
And I remember getting home and I was
about to go to bed. I was about to take a nap
after the show. And I remember she
called me and she said,
how you doing? I said, I'm alright.
I said, I'm alright, but...
She said, Shannon.
Yeah.
It was quiet.
She said,
she said, how long you been, Shannon?
Mm-hmm.
I said, all my life.
She said, you've been big.
You've been strong.
You've been resilient. You've been strong. You've been resilient.
You've been loving.
You've been caring.
Because this woman entered your life,
you're still going to be Shannon.
Don't let this situation change you, Shannon.
You're still going to be my baby brother, and I'm still
going to love you.
And
it was, obviously
my homeboys, Bucket and Burns, they called
and they checked on me. But it was my brother
and sister, because they're like my mother
and father, even though we brothers and sisters
is the relationship that we have.
And I remember
this when it really dawned on me, Ocho,
that I was really in a dark place.
And my brother's never said this before
and he's never said this to me since.
He said, if you need me,
I'll come out there.
At the time, how old am I?
This was 2006.
So I'm 48.
Right.
Yeah.
48,
49,
about to be 40.
I was 49.
He said,
if you need me,
I'll come out there.
That's when it really dawned on me.
I was like,
damn,
he really worried.
My brother really, he had never shown on me. I was like, damn, he really worried. My brother really,
he had never shown me.
Now I know later after talking to him,
he's been other situations that he's been worried about me,
but he never,
but he never let me know that he was worried.
That was the first time in 49 years that I could see,
I could tell that he was worried.
Man, I remember, I don't know,
what the heck?
How long?
How long?
I'm good.
Told my brother, I said, I'm good.
He told me a while Ocho
this happened
uh
I'm talking about
God damn
I'm talking about
six seven months though
it did Ocho
it did
it did
hey boy that was but Ocho. It did. It did.
Hey,
boy, that was... Sunshine
follows rain, Ocho.
I'm better for it. As I look
back, there are some things that
I wouldn't have
had I not...
Did that relationship not
dissolve? I'm not here because i turned away a lot of things
because i didn't want to be away from home because i didn't want to be away from her
because you know she
well i need to go make you know i'm turning down 50,000 gig because she's not comfortable. Help people up.
And what he's, why does he want to be with you?
Right.
Right.
She started to believe like, yeah, why do you want to be with me?
You're this and you can have this, that, that.
Come on.
I acted all that in when I decided to be with you.
Do you not, do you not think about that then?
Why is it an issue now?
Stop worrying about why I chose you.
Right.
I did.
Why is unimportant?
Because in this situation, Ocho, yeah, I'm who I am.
And you are who you are.
But should I not love you just the same?
Should I feel differently because you don't have this name?
You don't have this title?
I'm just, I was confused about why she felt that way.
Why?
I hate when women ask me, you can have anybody.
Why me? You know what? Now that I think about it, I promise when women ask me, you can have anybody. Why me?
You know what?
Now that I think about it,
I promise you go try to find one of them.
Anybody's right.
And leave you to F alone because you're unsure of yourself,
which is going to make you unsure of us.
And then long as there's doubt in your mind,
you're never going to be able to fully give yourself to me.
Yeah.
But like you just said earlier,
God don't make no mistakes.
Haiti,
1987,
Chad,
will you grow your hair back?
Love you guys,
man.
Thanks.
I will do.
I was growing my hair back.
Um,
if I go into campus,
I'll be on campus in about three months.
I'm looking forward to beating the shit out of Keith Lee.
I'm not sure I'm going to schedule that fight, but when I do go into a fight camp, I will grow my hair out.
Won't cut it.
Look scruffy.
I won't cut it until fight night.
So at whatever point this comes into fruition, because he done broke the check, his ass can't cash.
Oh. into fruition because he done he done he done broke the check his ass can't cash oh yeah but you know
sometimes Ocho when you dealing with
situations and we'll get back to this yeah those
shoes is that a lot
of times it's the outside right because
when I was in college all her girlfriends
was in her ear right
oh he ain't did I was like do, all her girlfriends was in her ear. Right. Oh, he ain't. I was like, do you understand?
Why are you over there?
I ain't round about.
I said, but you know your girl's trying to holler at me, right?
Why they telling you you shouldn't be with him?
I don't know what you see in him.
They the same ones.
When they catch me and you not around, they asking the same. I'm saying to myself, they're the same ones. When they catch me and you're not around,
they're asking the same, I'm saying to myself,
they're asking the same questions.
Why you with her? You can do so
much better. As a matter of fact,
you know what's funny?
Is the one doing all the talking?
Why you with him? You ever notice they're always single?
You ever notice they
never had nobody?
They're bouncing from
pillar to post
or they bouncing
misery loves company
but they want you
in the same situation
they in
no consistency
nobody you can depend on
consistently
come hell or high water
you know
well you know what
I know he always
gonna be there for me
no matter what
and guess what
while they talk about I don't know why
I guarantee you right now they'll switch positions with you
but they don't know why
why you want to be with him
but they'll switch positions with you
and be with him
I don't know why
women like that I ain't never been
in no situation
that's who you want to be with take off I don't know why women like that. I ain't never been in no situation. Yeah, enjoy it.
That's who you want to be with?
Take off.
I ain't going to let you,
I ain't going to let you,
I ain't going to let you mess over my boy.
Now, if I see something,
oh, I'm telling.
Don't leave him.
Don't leave his boy.
Don't do,
and don't be talking about,
it ain't what you think.
It's exactly what I think.
So whatever you think I think I'm thinking, that's what I'm thinking. ain't what you think. It's exactly what I think. So whatever you think, I think I'm thinking.
That's what I'm thinking.
I'm going to tell you.
That's what I thought.
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We dive into the competitive world of streaming.
What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.
There are so many stories out there,
and if you can find a way to curate
and help the right person discover the right content,
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It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.
The things that happened were so bizarre and insane,
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