Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Cowboys cooked on Jerry Jones Birthday, Davante Adams traded to Jets

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the hottest stories from week 6 of the NFL season including Jerry Jones, Dak Prescott, and the Dallas Cowboys getting demolished by the Detroit Lions, the Las Vegas Raiders trading Davante Adams to the New York Jets, and much more!03:16 - Bills-Jets09:56 - Deshaun Watson's poor play19:00 - DeMeco Ryans praises Jordan Love26:27 - Davante Adams to Jets28:00 - Ocho the best blocking receiver?30:09 - Cowboys firing McCarthy?41:47 - Happy Birthday Jerry43:00 - Ravens beat the Commanders(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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4-2. Jets fall to 2-4. What did you like? What didn't you like? Hey, what did I like? I liked the game in general. It was a good goddamn game. It was a very good game. The referees threw a little bit too much laundry. I wish they would get out of the way and let them play as played. Listen, on every play, before you go, before you go, on every NFL play, if you want to be technical, you can throw a flag on every play. There's something that goes wrong. There's a holding. There's some type of penalty on every single play on especially in interior you can do that i'm not going to say they were biased because they did play they did call it fair in spurts some for the bills some for the jets but i think it was just a little bit too much and it messed up the florida game especially when teams had advanced and gotten first downs and the calls were coming back but go ahead and i asked what you're gonna say

but when But when they went back and replayed it, how egregious were they? They got a call there. They were spinning the man. The guy tried to reach and you turn him. You can't turn him. You got to let him go.

Some of the calls in the secondary. It's like, it's 50-50. Get your head around. I know, get your head around. I said, get your head around. The one old DJ Reed got to get your head around. But again, he didn't impede him in any way. The receiver was coming back towards him.

I'm back towards him. So I think, I mean, it just like stuff, stuff like that, you know, it's still the game of football. And I think the rest just do too many goddamn too many damn flags. But on on the other hand on the other hand of that listen the jets win this game field goals as a kicker i understand the pressure understand the win you play for the win you kick you kick with the win understand which way is blowing and lead just a little a little towards the the opposite way the wind is blowing and the ball will carry right into the goalpost. It's

difficult. It's easier for me to sit here and say it, sitting at home as a kicker myself. But again, penalties. The Jets had over 11 penalties, but got them hundreds of some goddamn yards. But the game could have won the game. They could have won the game because the two field goals that they

missed, they would have been up by six. So the score would have been, what, 23? They would have won by three as opposed to losing by three. Well, where is the thing? The Bills missed a field goal also. Yeah, you're right. They did. So now you're looking at 26-20 and may potentially overtime.

But when you look at the Jets, and this is what I was afraid of, when you say we are quarterback away, you're under the assumption is your defense is going to be lights out like it was the previous year. And they're not. They're number two now. It's shaky as it

looks tonight. They're still ranked number two defensively in the NFL right now. The Bills ain't got nothing but Josh Allen. I knew you were going to say that. Josh got that cape on, man. He's basically Superman. He is.

The last player of the game, 72, you got one responsibility. You got contained backside. Tell me why you down inside. I just need to know because that's not your responsibility. So now, the coach is going to be looking at you and say, son, why didn't you play your responsibility?

Because you're trying to do somebody else's job. You didn't do your job and now you let the cows out of the barn. Had you just done your job, Ocho, now you got, now you get them off the field. You use your time out. You're going to get the ball back. But because you wanted to do someone else's job, Ocho. Now you got now you get them off the field. You use your time out. You're going to get the ball back. But because you wanted to do someone else's

job, you didn't do your job and boom. Tyron Smith got his ass whipped tonight. Who in the hell was that goddamn D and Tyron Smith was going against? Uh, uh, Ephanesia

S S Hey, I don't know what it was. He never got Tyra Smith on the first move, but the second and third move, it looked like Tyra Smith's legs were in concrete. It's like he couldn't move. Epinesa. Kick, kick, kick. Epinesa.

Listen, I don't play left tackle, but I know you kick, kick, kick that third kick. You hunker down. At the point of attack, you extend your hands and be able to move laterally left and right based on whatever moves he make. It's like his feet was in goddamn concrete. He couldn't move. Slow motion. Injuries of taking his toe on him.

He's lazy. He's lazy with his hands. Lazy with his feet. If you saw his footwork. Yeah. Ocho. And then they run a play. They got two guys he's pulling

and he whiffed the corner. Oh, yeah. Hold on. He whiffed. He just kept running. He just kept running. He didn't even try to get the corner. I know exactly what play you're talking about.

I don't know. He was bad tonight. I'm not one for calling things out, but watching replays and watching it on film, I'm like, well, come on now. This dude is embarrassing you. At the left tackle, you're supposed to be that boy. You're the money position.

You're the blind side of the quarterback. You got to do better than that. Man, that man whipped his ass Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers like what the heck you're supposed to be our best offensive line oh yeah most definitely we won a bidding war

against a lot of teams because look he's an all pro he's been an all pro he's been to a lot of pro bowls Ocho tonight just wasn't his night wasn't his night or was the person he was going against just that much better or was it just the off night though there's a difference let's hope it's an off night I go with that because

you can't have very many of those, Ocho. Because you play in the position, you get your quarterback hurt. Because he went by Tassie Mills so fast one time, Roger was just shaking his head. Like, what the? Yeah. He got up. He got up.

It looked so funny. I don't mean to be laughing. I don't mean to be laughing, but he got up. I know exactly looked so funny i don't mean to be laughing i don't mean to be laughing but he got up i know exactly what play you talk about and it looks so funny when aaron get up and i think they might have threw a flag on that play too for putting his weight on for putting his weight on him i don't i mean what you're supposed to do he just he fixed his helmet when he getting up and it just looks so funny you can see the disgust in his face and he doesn't want to show any type of mannerism because he knows the camera's on him right away. But you can see it in his body language. Aaron like, God damn, man.

Sunday was another rough outing for the Cleveland Browns offense, but there won't be any changes made to the quarterback position. Kevin Stefanski told reporters Monday that he won't be benching Deshaun Watson in favor of Jameis Winston. Following the 2016 loss to the Eagles. I think there were moments, obviously, that yesterday I think Deshaun gives us the best chance to win. You're not winning. Continues to give us the best chance to win.

And we need to play really good offensive football at his position and really at every other position. What you think? What you thinking? What you thinking? Let's think from a business standpoint. You understand how those owners are thinking? And you know, Kevin Stefanski doesn't pull the strings on that puppet. If I'm paying somebody that kind of money,

he's going to play, even if things aren't going well. I'm going to try to get my money's worth until I can't no more. I'm paying the guy $45 million. I'm paying the other guy $5 or $7 million. It doesn't make sense. Why would I

put him on the bench making $45 million? Yeah. Why would they make a change? Why would they make a change? Him saying Deshaun Watson gives us our best chance to win, is he wrong or is he right? What do you think? Do you think James Winston gives the Cleveland Browns a better chance to win

at the quarterback position? How about this? He gives you your best chance to win, but you're not winning. Okay. So how good of a chance is it? You think maybe it's the flat, the flashes of brilliance that you see just the flashes aren't as consistent as it used to be.

He says, I think Deshaun gives us the best chance to win, continue to give us the best chance to win. We need to play really good offensive football at his position and really good football at every other position to be successful. No crap. Sherlock. Wow.

Yeah, that is some, that is, that is some great coaching. That is man. That is some motivational stuff right there. We need to quarterback to play good and we need to play good at every other position. Well,

the quarterback has to play the best because he got the ball in his hands all the time. He has the ball in his hands every play. So his decision making and everything he decides to do with the ball impacts and affects everyone else around him especially offensively. Hell, even defensively. Because if you make mistakes then they always on the goddamn field

on the defensive side of the ball. I agree. Yeah. He's not playing well, Ocho. Yeah. But you keep saying, Ocho, you say he gives you the ball. Me, I didn't say. I'm just saying.

I was asking your thoughts on what you think. Should they make a change? Ocho, after three years. Yes, sir. I mean, it's tough. And I get it. When you invest that kind of money,

a lot of times, it's just like anything I get it. When you invest that kind of money, a lot of times it's just like anything. It's just like with an investment. When you put a lot of money into an investment, Ocho, it's hard to get off it. Yeah. It's hard to get off it, Ocho, because you want to see some kind of dividend. You want to see some type of return on your investment. Yes. Sometimes you got to cut your losses.

I got a question for you. I got a question for you. So fellas that's in the chat that you listen to me. Now think about this on much smaller terms, but think about it. You're dating a woman. You've been dating her for two or three years and you're thinking about all the money and everything

you've invested in this individual and you just and you keep individual and you keep on trying, you keep on trying and things just don't seem to be working out and going the way you'd like it to go in the right direction. But you keep thinking about all the time you spent,

all the money you spent and invested in this individual. Are you going to shelf her? Are you going to say, you know what, I don't want to do this no more? You know why? Let me tell you why. Because you don to shelf her? Are you going to say, you know what, I don't want to do this no more? You know why? Let me tell you why.

Because you don't want her to be what you think she can be with somebody else when you've invested all that in her. See, that's why a lot of teams don't want to get upset player. Because what if he goes and be somewhere else what we thought he could be here. You done bought 5, 10, 15 YSL, Louis, Hermes, Gucci bags, Balenciaga. You done

bought her a whip. She won't do right. Damn, but what did she do right over there? But think about this, don't think about this. What if you cut your losses to get the bags and everything you bought? Cause you can get that back. Right.

And then if she does leave and you get rid of that, think about it. Not being, that's an expense that is no longer on your, on your tab. It's no longer, it's no longer on your plate. And that's okay. I get it. That's okay. I get it. But a lot of people don't think like that because like you said,

you made a heavy investment. It's just like you buy a stock or you buy an investment property. If you don't want to get off it, Ocho, because you thought this was the run property, this was going to be your Netflix. This was going to be your Google. This was going to be your app,

your Uber, whatever the case may be that was going to be your time to hit a lick and that's the funny thing when it comes to investing that's something that we always need to learn and understand everything we invest in we're not going to get a return on everything we invest in we're not going to get a return on so you have to know when to cut your losses and And it's okay. Because at some point, that loss for you becomes somebody else's responsibility. Because they ain't doing right by you. Nine times out of ten, they ain't going to do right by the next motherfucker either.

So if a certain individual, if a certain player looks a certain way, it ain't like all of a sudden they're going to go to another team and they're going to be magic and all of a sudden turn around and be somebody else that they're not. I get it, bro.

I get it. At the end of the day, Ojo, look, we've all I say all, but I know I've had to cut losses. You what? It is what it is. Yeah, yeah, I cut a loss in a minute. Oh, you don't play, huh?

Ojo, it is what it is. Right, right, right, right. You win some, you lose some. Hell, I can have lost in a minute. Oh, you don't play, huh? Ocho, it is what it is. Right, right, right, right. You win some, you lose some. Hell, I can't win them all. Nobody. And I see guys in the chat, chat, oh, you sipping. Bro, you don't even know. Your woman probably been over right now.

Why are you over there bumping them? Everybody. Nobody. Ocho, the thing is, no guy thinks it's going to happen to him or them if you don't if i don't have that kind of well i don't have that kind of ego i don't have that kind of ego it can happen to anybody it don't matter who he is it can happen to anybody because the funny thing about it based on experience and i don't mean to be bringing up a past i don't mean to be bringing up a past but but listen, we family.

We family, I can be honest because I was on the other side of the spectrum. So I know it can be done because I was number two for years. Stay with me now. I can talk to y'all because we family. Yeah. So I know what can happen. I know the lies.

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Bill's fans are taking these quotes very serious. Many feel that Josh Allen is the second best quarterback in the league behind Patrick Mahomes. Me personally, I take Lamar Jackson, but that's another story. Ocho, do you believe that Jordan Love will be the best quarterback that the Texans have faced, even though they do have Josh Allen on their resume?

Yeah, probably. Probably. I think Josh Allen is very good obviously his resume speaks for itself despite um obviously the turnovers but he's good you can see what he's doing now and being superman not having elite players around him but still getting the job done but jordan love is really good jordan love is really good. Jordan Love, to me, is in the same bracket, in a sense, with Jaden Daniels, with a C.J. Stroud, with a Lamar Jackson. You know, he's somewhat of—he's also a dual-threat quarterback. He can run.

He can run. He can throw. Make all throws. Yeah. And to be young as he is, he's very promising, which is why they paid him what they did. And, I mean, I agree with him. I agree with him. Jordan Love is really, really, really good.

Really good. And the funny thing about it is, is you'd have to be a football fan, not a casual fan of the game. You'd have to be a football fan to understand how good Jordan Love is and actually watch those Packers games. Yeah.

Yeah. Like I said, I take Mahomes as first. Right. I don't put anybody next to him because you see what he's done in his six years of starting. It's off the charts. I mean, you don't get to four Super Bowls in six years. You win three with two MVPs, three Super Bowl MVPs. That's beyond what Brady has more.

But if you look at Brady's first six years and you look at his first year, six years, you look at Brady, Brady, they were a defensive team. Brady wasn't asked to do what my homeboys doing, but yeah, he,

he, he's phenomenal. I would take Lamar Jackson as my second quarterback behind my homes over Burrell and Josh Allen, but I can see people saying Burrell. i can see people saying burrow i can see people saying josh allen uh maybe cj uh jordan love purdy whatever the case may be but one two for me is my homes and lamar so hold on hold on now but who who. Who are our top five? So we got we got we got Burrow first. You got Lamar. So Josh Allen is Josh.

You got Burrow first. I said my home is first. OK. No, you said Burrow. OK, my bad. My bad. You know, I'm just thinking bangles. My bad. My bad. So, I mean, like talk to me real quick on your top five based on who you would say if they would ask you so you have you have um josh allen second before lamar i would take no i would take lamar second okay i would take i would take i would take josh third burl four and i would take Josh third, Burrow four and I would take I think I would take CJ fifth

how you put Josh out in the front of Burrow though I'm just curious I said I would take Josh out that's your preference yeah I mean look I think once you get past the first That's your preference. Yeah, I mean, look, I think once you get past the first two, I think you're kind of splitting hairs with Josh Allen, Joe O'Burrow, and CJ. I know CJ is only his second year in the league,

but I don't see a situation where he regresses. I only see situations where he regresses. I only see situations where he gets improved. Jordan Love is... You talk about Jordan Love over Dak. Yeah, I'll take Jordan Love over Dak. I'll take

CJ Stroud over Dak too. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! ah oh ah ah ah but you know the thing is most of the quarterbacks you can go week to week

I think the top two are kind of set because Josh Allen Burrow none of them playing as good as Jerry Goff is playing as good as anybody. Most definitely. And you didn't even mention him. That's what I'm saying. I think like it can go week to week. Like most positions can go week to week.

I think when you look at what Mahomes has done, his body of work, now at the end of the year, we can say, does he still deserve to be the number one quarterback? We'll see. Probably, because this is what we see from Mahomes every year, especially in the beginning of the season. It always looks like this.

The numbers aren't staggering. It's not crazy, but all of a sudden when it matters most, guess who always comes through in the clutch? Right. Every time. Every time. At some point, you're going to have three, 400, 500-yard games. They're going to come.

They're not going to come right now for some reason. They never come at the beginning of the season for them. It's always something. There's always an issue with the offense or the balls being dropped. There's no receivers. They're not catching the balls. That's what it was last year. This year, injury. Rasheed Rice is out.

Goddamn Juju steps up. Had the hell of a game. Travis Kelsey is going late. It's always something. Remember, the Patriots said, nah, we ain't got no use for Juju. Wrong system. He comes back, look at Juju. Wrong system. Juju comes out

when she pipes goes out Juju comes in 130 yard game like that off the rip just that fast just that fast but

quarterback can take average receivers and make them look really really good yeah that's what that's what the really good ones can do

but the quarterback it's so hard ocho because any given week you're like i take jerry golf no i take josh allen no i take cj no i take i'll take jordan love no i'll take joe i'll take josh and i mean you we've seen pretty deal where you're like, well, that boy pretty good. And you know what's funny? I always think about when you think about your top five chat, whoever your top five players are. I always think about it. Forget the stats.

Forget the numbers and all that stuff. I know all that matters. But if you were to put them on any other team, would they still be able to be efficient and be productive regardless of where they went, regardless of who was at their disposal as far as weapons are concerned? Could they still wheel and deal without being on the team?

Can you imagine Mahomes with Chase and Higgins? Can you imagine him with Waddle, Tyreek, Mostert, A-Tan? Hey. Listen. Or you put him in San Francisco with that running game, Christian McCaffrey, Kittle, Debo, IU, Jennings. Unfair.

But I think the addition of Devontae Adams, if it can happen at any point, the addition of him to that Jets team will help bolster that offense and giving Aaron Rodgers another threat and adequate that, that he knows he can count on and can win every goddamn down. I just had to throw that out there before we, we continue. So I don't know why the,

the, the, the football gods, if you're listening, let, let, let's make that happen. I thought tonight, I thought Lazard, I thought he and Garrett Wilson are starting to get on the same page. They're playing really, really well.

Obviously, Alan Lazard knows him. He played with him in Green Bay, so he knows. I mean, that throw down the middle for 24 yards, not a whole lot of receivers, unless you play with the quarterback knows that he's going to back shoulders this thing to me and I'm going to need to, Hey, it's going to be low. And it's going to be on my backside and I'm going to be able to have to go dig it out. Right. But that comes from experience.

That comes from playing with a guy. But if Devante were to go there, I mean, Hey, somebody's going to be the odd man out. Cause obviously it's not like they're going to throw the ball 50 times a game. So the question is, how healthy is Devontae? How soon are you going to be able to get on the field? I know he's been out for a couple of weeks. Oh, yeah. I'm sure he's healthy.

I don't think he's hurt. He eats Taco Bell. Okay, Taco Bell. I don't think he's hurt. I'm talking about he's I don't think he hurt. He eat Taco Bell. Okay, Taco Bell. I don't think he hurt. I'm talking about he going to hit the ground running, you know? Chase said, what's up, Uncarnated? Five as receivers. Did y'all take pride in blocking?

I know tight end is different, but on the Ravens, it seemed like they don't mind. Well, they're a running team. You got to block. Look at that Brees Hall run. Look at Mike Williams block. Look at Lazard block. That's the difference.

Anytime you see long runs by running back, the receivers are blocking. Look at the 49ers. Look at Debo. Look at Iyuk. Look at Kidd. Look at Kittle. If you want your running back to have success

if you want to have a successful running game your wide receivers have to block and you got to make it a point of emphasis and you got to make it important to them I'm probably arguably might be the best blocking receiver ever ever

ever because half the time I didn't have to touch nobody just run them off ever. Ever. Because half the time, I didn't have to touch nobody. Just run them off. Yeah. Ask my running back. Ask Rudy Johnson.

Yeah. Well, rest in peace. Cedric Benson. Larry's your baby. We had Larry Johnson for a little bit. You know that? Yeah, he was washed when he got to y'all. That's not nice. That's not nice, though.

When you do laundry, what you doing? You washing, right? So you clean yourself. Yeah, but he had nothing. He was on fumes, Ocho. He already had almost 800 caries in his body in two years. Ain't no coming back from that, Ocho. He was toting that pill, though. He was toting.

Yeah, he was toting that thing, boy. He wasn toting. In Kansas City? Yeah, he was toting that thing, boy. He wasn't toting it for y'all. Who else we had? Michigan running back, man. Last name was Perry. I can't remember his first name. He was good, but yeah, I took pride in my blocking, man.

I wasn't no Heinz Ward, knocking people out, but I did what I could I don't even know you was Cam Ward hell nah nah but you look at guys in the

West Coast system West Coast wide receivers you gotta block Ocho, after suffering the worst home loss of his time as owner, general manager, 47-9 to the Detroit Lions, Jerry Jones

backed head coach Mike McCarthy. When asked of a potential change, Jerry said, oh, I haven't even considered that. I'm not considering that. Just so you're clear, I'm not considering that. When reminded about his previous in-season coaching changes he made in 2010 when he fired Wade Phillips and named Jason Garrett interim head coach after a 1-7 start, Jerry became even more dispensable.

That would be a hypothetical. In that manner, do you think I'm an idiot? Jerry, is that a rhetorical question or is that one that you want a yes or no answer to don't answer do you okay well i'm not going to do hypotheticals with you about what i would consider coaching change in light of timing we're sitting here with i'm not at all the coaches the cowboys are three and three after the loss to the lions and i wouldn't just no no no that wasn't just a loss. No, no, no, no, no. That wasn't just a loss. All losses aren't created equal.

Yes, they go into the loss column, but they're not created equal. They're just one game behind the Commanders and the NFC East, but have lost their first three games at home for the first time since 2010. They've been outscored by 66 points. The Cowboys are 0-3 in the red zone today. Ocho, is it time to take

McCarthy out of his position? Before we even get to the players, before we get to the defense, before we get to the offense. The Cowboys lost today, right? Who was the first person we heard from? Yes.

The first person we always hear from jerry problem number one that's probably that's problem number one it always has been but you like you said like you told me he would never change because he feels he's the best person to be able to run that team but the cowboys did today it was very bad it was dreadful it was awful it was terrible it was frightful it was atrocious it was disgraceful it deplorable. I'm not sure if I have any other words I can explain the Cowboys showing today, offensively and defensively. It was bad. It was bad to the point where the fucking Detroit Lions were running stuff that I haven't seen in years that I ran when I was an optimist. When I was in Little League, they were doing trick plays that I did when I was eight years old. This is the NFL. This is the best of the best.

It's the NFL. It's the best of the best. How you throwing plays at a tackle? Because I have such little respect. This is what you call being disrespectful because we're on national television. We're going to run a lateral. I've never seen anything like that.

Ocho, we're going to call it. This is not the last play of the game where we're going to ladder it black and forth. We're going to call it. And guess what? Before that, we're going to call a play. We're going to play fake it, and we're going to try to throw a back shoulder to Before that, we're going to call a play. We're going to play fake it, and we're going to try to throw a back shoulder to it.

Not a tight end. Not a tight end. A tackle. Listen, I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on in Jerry's world. They've had three games at home. They lost all three games at home. Tonight wasn't, that wasn't a loss.

I really can't even conjure up the words i tried i tried to to give you a few synonyms on on what tonight was but i don't i don't i don't know what i don't know what i don't it is it is it mike mccarthy because they would that same mike mccarthy went 12 and 5 last year but that that's the, with the Mike McCarthy before that, the season previous to that, they went 12 and five as well. And it had a, it had a playoff berth, even though they,

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Their defense isn't very good. Their defense is not built to play from behind. No, but see, here's the thing, is that what normally happens is that The defense is not built to play from behind. No. But see, here's the thing. Is that what normally happens is that the offense can put pressure. See, they're built to play with a lead. And what happens when you can't play with a lead and you can't pin your ears back?

Because you got those guys that don't have anchors in their back pockets. You see how they move? You see how 184 yards. And look at it. Yeah, they don't just get beat. They get blown out. They get blown out. What did the Saints do to him?

What did Green Bay do to him in the playoffs? They put up 48. They got 47 on them today. Yeah. New Orleans put 40 something on them. The Ravens took the put out the gas too soon. They should have-something on them. The Ravens put out the gas too soon. They should have put 40 on them. And people keep saying, well, it's the defense, the defense.

Dak got three field goals. If I know my defense isn't good, I can't settle for field goals. I've got to get touchdown because I've got to match. Because if I don't, we're going to get too far behind. The best thing to happen is Dak threw that interception and got him out because what was going to happen is he was going to get some empty calories and people are going to say, well, Dak didn't see the game. Say Dak played well.

We've seen that far too many times. We saw it against the Saints. We saw it against the Ravens. We see it a lot. We saw it against Green Bay where he has these empty calories and you look at the stat and you're like, well, he didn't play bad if the defense could have gotten some stops. No.

He got three field goals. Three. Actually. Yes, sir. If you really think about it, Ocho. Yeah. They should have put 60 on. It could have been a 60 ball easily.

It could have been. But that would have been very. Changes. If they put up 60 points heads were probably going to roll and somebody would have had to lose their job it would have been too much pressure from the outside world but who hold first of all who are you going to put it first of all

you can't put Mike Zimmer in that job because his defense is trash so how you put him in that job as his defense is trash. So how you put him in that job is as the head coach. I don't know who's the offensive coordinator. Who do they hire? Cowboys. Right. I know Mike McCarthy calls the plays,

but who has the job title as offensive coordinator? Brian Schottenheimer. Right. He's not, you're not putting him there. So you're kind of stuck. Because guess what? That's Mike McCarthy's offense. That's not Brian Schottenheimer's offense.

That's Mike McCarthy. Because remember, they got rid of the other guy because they said they ran the ball too much. I mean, they threw the ball too much. They throw the ball way more now than they did when they had killed more offensive coordinators. They're still not happy with the running game. They're still not happy with those they have to run the ball way more now than they did when they had Kelly Moore. They're still not happy with the running game. They're still not happy with those they have to run the ball. So what's the answer there?

What happens, Ocho? You fall behind by 14. You fall behind by 21. So you don't really know. Look, do I? I think Dydell is okay I don't think he's great I don't think you're going anywhere with him

but you basically take your running game out because what do they do every game they fall behind and when you fall behind I ain't even work okay run it I dare you to because all you're going to do is run time off the clock because they don't really have anybody that can hit your head on the goalpost.

So with that being said, yeah, with that being said, this is bad. I don't know what's going on, but it's almost like CD and Dak has never played together. Ocho, you know he had 14 targets today

and caught seven of them. They put him in motion. He runs up the sideline. Dak throws it back. Chota, he keeps going. Right. He's looking for it over here. Dak throws it over there. Dak's looking for him to be over there. He throws it over there. so he's over here.

They got to give him the same thing. Ocho. Man, them guys have been together for five years, Ocho. What do you mean get on the same thing? Even after five years, they're supposed to be in sync, especially in year five. You're supposed to know what I'm thinking every time as a receiver. If you know

a guy's off and I'm coming in motion, I'm running down the field and he's already off of me, it's okay. You throw that thing back shoulder. If you know I have a guy pressed and he's up on me and I'm coming in motion and he's locked up, you let that bitch go. The two people on offense that should be in unison

is them two. If them two are out of sync, then everything is falling apart. They're not. In order for their offense to get a rhythm, if they can't run the ball like they haven't been able to do, in order for their offense to get a rhythm and everything to get in sync,

goddamn, goddamn foe. Damn, what number? CD where? Oh, 488. Oh, they got to be on the same page because that can kick that can kickstart your offense right there. You know what? Shit ain't going right. McCarthy, call

something from 4 to 88. Let's get us in rhythm. Every time. Ocho, at some point in time, we got to come to the realization. The Cowboys aren't good. You can say 4 to 88. You can say 4 to 1 and 4 to this realization the Cowboys aren't good. You can say 4-88, you can say 4-1 and 4-this. The Cowboys aren't good.

They're not good. I didn't say it. And it's okay to say that. But I think it's more than just that that's in the way of them actually being good. It's more than just that than them actually being good. Being good starts all the way from the motherfucking top. Because the Kansas City Chiefs are good,

but it starts at the top. The Ravens are good. It's always started from the top. The Steelers are good. They're rebounding back to being good, but it starts at the top. Just think about all the teams that are consistently good year in and year out, not living on what they've done in the past. Before Sunday, Ocho, the largest home defeat in Jerry era came in 2001.

They lost 36-3. They've been on three other home losses that have been larger margins of defeats in team history. For the third straight game, the Cowboys faced big halftime deficits. Remember, 27-6 against the Lions. They were down 21-6 against the Ravens. They were down 35-16 against the Saints. And at the wild card game, they were down

27-20. 27-20. No. 27-7 at halftime. Oh, by the way, happy birthday, Jerry. Oh, Joe. I don't know if you remember this, but there's nothing worse than getting the ass whipped on your birthday. I mean, something. Okay. 84. My bad. something. Okay. 84.

My bad, 82. Yeah, because you're older than my mom. Yeah, my mom turned 81 in January. Ojo, you know how you get your birthday and you figure you can say and do whatever you want to and get your ass whooped on your birthday by your grandma or your mom? I ain't even taking no chances back then.

I mean, how'd that feel, Jerry? Yeah. I mean, to get that feel, Jerry? Yeah. I mean, to get your ass tore up on your birthday, that's the worst kind. And then, you know you normally going to have your cousins over or something like that, and you showing out, oh, boy, you being managed, huh? There ain't nobody trying to be managed.

You just want to beat me in front of my cousin. The Ravens beat the Commanders 30-23 for their four straight wins. They fly with nine catches, a buck 32 at the half, the most yards in the half in Ravens history. He didn't see a target the rest of the game and the Ravens still roll. Lamar and company gobbled up 484 yards, 28 first downs. The 2024 Ravens are the first team since John Madden,

1971 Raiders with 150 plus rushing yards and at least one touchdown in each of their first six games of the season. Excuse me. They racked up 176 rushing yards on the day with the reigning MVP throwing for 323 yards. Ocho, are we looking at another MVP season for LJ? Hell yeah. See, the way he goddamn playing,

even with the slow start, even with the slow start, in order to dig yourself out that hole, you got to have the right person with that goddamn shovel. You hear me? And the person that got that shovel is Lamar Jackson. And he playing hell of a ball. Hell of a ball. Listen, he is a good thrower

of the goddamn fucking football. Yes. I heard Ryan Clark say something where he said at this point in just five games that Jaden Daniels is a better passer of the ball than Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson has showed, even though he was considered a running back coming out in the draft or saying he should have been playing maybe wide receiver.

He has honed the skill of being a good thrower of the ball. Yes. He's accurate. He got touch. He got precision. I mean, what else can you ask for? He can throw you a goddamn bullet, or he can touch that thing in there like a goddamn fairy.

He's good at what he does. If you watch the game today, I'm going to hike the game today i'm going to hike the ball i'm gonna get the ball and my first mindset is to throw the ball first to go through my reads i'm gonna read my progression hell if i got enough time i'm gonna go back to my progression again and if i got to run it i'm gonna run it but that's dangerous i think the most impressive thing about Lamar Ocho is that he's gotten better at throwing the football every single year. Yeah. And all we said,

we don't need, first of all, it would be unfair, grossly unfair. If his passing ability ever surpassed it, his running ability, that wouldn't even be fair. You'd have to outlaw it.

Yeah, that's not fair. The guy was 26, 20 of 26, 323, a touchdown and an interception. He got sacked twice. I can live with that. But Ocho, I remember after the first game, what did I tell the Ravens

they should do with Derrick Henry? Put him in the goddamn eye. That's when he's most efficient. Tosses and straight down motherfucking heel with the fullback, goddammit. Since they put his ass in the eye, that man is running wild. He's on pace

for another 2,000-yard season, which if he got 2,000 yards in another season because no back has ever done 2,000 more than once, just go ahead and put him in the hall. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Hey, listen. You know how difficult they're going to be to be? Yes. With the way they're playing right now? I'm not sure. At some point, you know, you always have a game. I call it a trap game. You always have a trap game.

I'm not sure when that trap game is going to come, where it just seems nothing goes right and nothing actually works. But with the way they're going right now, you can't stop him. Now, not only can you not stop the running game, if you can't stop the running game, it makes the passing game that much easier. That's what, because think about it. When Lamar's throwing the ball to the tight end, Mark Andrews, he's throwing the ball to likely.

They're so far open. Wide open. You you got to get that safety down because you can't stop him with the light box. And Lamar is dealing. I mean, he is dealing. I mean, he's hitting likely. He loves throwing to his tight end. Mark Andrews was always his favorite.

But now he has a guy in Zay Flowers. He's not that big, Ochoa. Oh, he can get open now. He can go now. Hey, he can go. Hey, they can't touch him in a phone booth. He can go.

Yeah, Zay, he's like that. He's unbelievable. He's playing. But the Ravens, they're playing unbelievable. They're playing unbelievable football because they are so balanced. Guess what, Ocho 26 they had 26 pass attempts 37 rush attempts

and they're going to chew the clock up because when you run the ball like they can run it it's going to be tough for you to stop them it's tough it's going to be tough for you to stop them it's really that simple and the rain look the commanders were good. I mean, you kept Jaden Daniels.

He was 24, 35, 269, two touchdowns. They didn't run the ball nearly well enough. And so the Ravens did a great job. They ran the ball 18 times for 52 yards. That's not good enough. That's less than three yards of carry, Alcho. You ain't putting no fear in nobody's heart

running the ball less than three yards of carry. But the Ravens, defensively, they got after him. They were sacked him three times. But that offense, when they're humming like that, they're going to be hard to beat.

I mean, listen, you know what the funny thing is? Even in a loss, even in a loss today, Jaden Daniels still look good. Even in a loss. But the thing you have to understand, you have to understand who they playing.

They ain't playing the goddamn Raven defense every goddamn week. Then you're not playing a juggernaut, a juggernaut of an offense like that every week. So I can see them beating everyone else in the NFL, if so happen they have to play them, until you get to, let's say, the playoffs, where the teams are obviously going to be that much better

since they were able to make it. But, I mean, listen, the commanders have no reason to hang their head. Obviously, you lost to a very, very good team today. But when you think about it, you run down, if you look at the rest of the NFL, how many teams do you think can really beat and play with the commanders right now with the kind of quarterback play that they're getting from Jaden Daniels? Ain't too many goddamn many. Ain't too many.

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