Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Darius Acuff Jr. SHINES in WIN over High Point + Nebraska OUTLASTS Vanderbilt in THRILLER + Texas UPSETS Gonzaga + Cam Boozer & Duke DOMINATES TCU + Houston TAKES DOWN Texas A&M + Michigan State TOPS St. Louis

Episode Date: March 22, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Arkansas hanging on to beat High Point to advance to the Sweet 16, Nebraska beats Vanderbilt at the buzzer and Texas u...psets Gonzaga to go to the Sweet 16 and much more!   04:45 - Arkansas beat High Point 17:40 - Nebraska beats Vanderbilt 23:00 - Texas beat Gonzaga 27:00 - Duke beats TCU 39:35 - Houston beats Texas A&M 1:00:50 - Michigan St beat Louisville 1:05:05 - Michigan beat St Louis 1:08:50 - Bracket Check In (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:44 This is what March Madness, which should be Nebraska, Wandy. Woo! And Vandy almost hit the shot of the shots. Wooey. Y'all know who I am. How many favorite, Unk? That is my partner and co-host,
Starting point is 00:04:56 to Cincinnati Bingle Great. He's a former pro bowler and an all pro. And he's in the ring of honor in Cincinnati. That is Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. And he's a seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks. Universe of Arkansas alum. And his team is advancing. That is ISO, Joe Johnson.
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Starting point is 00:07:05 Darius Aikov finished with 36 points. John Collier-Pryor was making 17th trip to the Sweet 16. When asked Arkansas when who's the difference in the team, Collie Pard didn't miss word. I think it's that kid, Darius A-Cove.
Starting point is 00:07:20 We put it in his hand, and I trust him, and the team trust him. He was sensational a night again. Joe, he was sensational again tonight. Okay, Ocho. Yeah. It's cuffing season, baby.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Huh? Yes, it's A-Cuff. It's Cuffin season. Listen, Hey, man, that's why I say in the tournament, okay, Ocho, you got to have a great guard play.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Give high points some credit. Give the kid Martin credit because he came out and he answered the bell. You know, he took on the challenge and playing against A-Cuff. Went bucket for him. He had 30 points.
Starting point is 00:07:55 It was a great game. I just think the poise and patience that we play with down the stretch, especially A-Cup getting to his spots, Anka-Ocho, that's the difference in having, you know, great guard play, you know, in the NCAA tournament. So I'm glad A-Col is on our side, bro. Yeah. He looked great. I think he's the one guy who can continue to boost his draft stock throughout this tournament.
Starting point is 00:08:19 He continued to keep playing at this high level that he's playing at. He's going to be undeniable, fellas. He's going to be undeniable. Yeah, Uncle Joe Boy, A-cup was nice. A-Cup for nights. He was aggressive. I mean, he didn't take over. He did what he needed to do, you know, when he wanted to. When they had to have a point, when they had to have points in general,
Starting point is 00:08:38 he was able to put the ball in the flow, get to the rack. I knew he was good, obviously, watching highlights, but now being able to watch the whole game and get a better understanding. Okay, yeah, he had bought. He really liked that. Yeah, because he's good. He can get to the rim. He got the midi.
Starting point is 00:08:59 He can shoot the three ball. He's super duper quick. I like the fact that the other guy was going right back at him. Martin was going right back at him. Like, bro, I ain't going to let you light me up and I just sit here and take it. Well, you take this back at you. And they were going back and forth. And see, Joe, that's what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Because when you talk about a guard, you're talking about a guy that's going to have the ball in his hand. See, Big, somebody got to get them the ball. Absolutely. We saw Eady. We saw Eady against Purdue. in Yukon. Yeah. He didn't have the guy
Starting point is 00:09:26 to keep getting him the ball. Right. But the difference was Yukon has to find Castle. Yeah. Who had the ball
Starting point is 00:09:32 in his hands. Yeah. So it's a big difference because now I got the ball and I know how to feed Klingan. Yeah. Who was also on his squad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And so A Cuff, man, you're right. Joe, I think he's definitely increasing his draft stock. It's going up. Me personally looking at him, I didn't think he was going to get out of the top five. It's going to see,
Starting point is 00:09:49 it's going to be even harder now for him to get out of the top five, considering how Well, he's playing because like you said, Joe, he has an NBA body. He's big. He's physical. He's strong. He can play at the rim.
Starting point is 00:10:01 He got the mid-range. He can shoot the three ball. He can't quit. Yeah. Oh, man. Everything that you want in a guard. Man, his senior year in high school, Uncle O's Joe, A-Cuff shot. I think he shot, I think he shot like low 30s in, from the three-point field goal from
Starting point is 00:10:18 a three-point percentage. Yeah. This year at Arkansas, bro, he, he, he drastically, improved that. Like, that was my only concern about him coming into college. I knew he was great attacking, getting to the bucket, shooting the floaters, getting to his midi. But the way he shoot the three ball with effortless, you know what I mean? The poise, the confidence that he has. That's what these scouts are looking for, man. They're looking for a guy. When he gets under pressure, when he's under duress, is he stressing or is he calm? Is he cool,
Starting point is 00:10:48 collective in the moment making plays? Bro, he's all that. He's all that. Hey, I tell, I keep keep tipping my hat to him because he keep breaking records. I want to give High Point credit because the guy Fletcher who came off the bench, Unc and Ocho, the boy was a load. The boy was getting money out there. He had 25. Yeah. I said, man, he would give him that work.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Yeah. So High Point surprised me. I can see why they beat a lot of great team. Yeah. But you can see why they came back and beat North Carolina. There you go. It makes sense to me. There you go.
Starting point is 00:11:20 It makes sense to me. And had you not had a guy like, A Cuff, you'll probably lose that game. Yeah. The difference is North Carolina didn't have anybody could take the game over. It didn't. Arkansas had someone that could take the game over.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Now, they did get contributions from a lot of other people, Richmond and 3rd, Malik Thomas, Ewan. They had guys that can contribute North Carolina. Once a high point withstood that onslaught, they had that 19 point lead.
Starting point is 00:11:47 And as they started to chip away, Hubert Davis didn't have anybody that they could just give the ball and say, calm it down. Absolutely. You're okay. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Now, hey, get us in a, hey, get us a good shot. Get us in a good rhythm. Let's just relax, take a deep breath. Hey, we knew they were going to make a run at us. Yeah. Now let's weather this storm. Hey, everybody. Long as you don't blow the roof off the house, we good.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Right, right. Inside, long as we don't, hey, long as we don't come outside and get into the weather, we're good. And they didn't have that. But the night Arkansas had that with A-Cuff, he's special. He's a special kid. He had, I believe he, he's a, he's a special kid. Joe, I agree with you. I think he has what it takes to be, to play out a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I'm not going to be surprised if he average somewhere between 15 and 18 points a game next year, depending on where he goes. Oh, yeah, I think where he gets drafted definitely plays a huge part in that. But, okay, Ocho, it's a lot of great guards out here. There's a lot of good guards playing in this tournament. But, I mean, dude, a cup of game changer, man. Like, I'm talking about, I'm talking about seriously. When it comes down to the clutch, it was 83, 83,
Starting point is 00:12:52 were probably two and a half minutes left. And, bro, he just took over the game. You don't have to tell him nothing. That's instinctively in him. That's who he is. That's who he's been the whole season. He won SEC freshman of the year, SEC player of the year.
Starting point is 00:13:08 As a freshman, he was probably 19 years old, man. Yeah. You were a high point played Wisconsin. They came back and beat Wisconsin. Yeah. Hey, Uncle Joe, as good as he is, with his ability to understand game and understand situations,
Starting point is 00:13:22 Wherever he gets drafted, based on the situation, are they going to allow him to be the same player he is at Arkansas, even though he's so young? Or will they, I don't want to say working in a little bit. Obviously, I would assume if he if he gets picked that high, he's going to be the starter. Well, that's my thing. I think where he gets drafted is more important than anything because I want him to go to a team, Uncle Ocho, will they give him the ball, let him just play. Yeah, he's going to make mistakes here, rookie.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It's part of it. But let his learning curve be, you know, give him, give him some leeway. You know what I mean? Versus, you know how they do some of these guys. You come in and make a mistake. You got to come out and sit down. Let him play through the mistakes. Let him learn through the mistakes because he got the talent.
Starting point is 00:14:05 It all depends on where he goes. You see a guy like a Dylan Harper. He goes what? Top three in the draft? He comes off the bench because you got Castle and you got Wimby. So you have to be, where does he go matters? It's going to determine, like Joe said, does he have a lot? the ball or is he a situation where it comes, look at Suggs.
Starting point is 00:14:24 When you got Ban Carroll and you got Wagner, it is hard for you to do your thing because the office is running to those two guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it all depends. If he goes somewhere, let's just say he goes to somewhere, I'm trying to figure out where he can go and be the guy. He can't go to the Wizards because they got trade in AD. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I mean, if you look at where the Utah, Utah probably going to want the Bons. Yeah, well, maybe. And you still got Laura marketing and you got Triple J. So where can he go? I'm trying to think of teams. I know where you can go. Do you pair him with Jai?
Starting point is 00:15:03 If he goes to Memphis, do you pay him with Jock? That's what I'm going to say, nah, I don't want to pair him with Jai, but I think they're going to get off a Jai and you might want to replace him. They might be. I don't really want him to go to Memphis, man. I ain't going to lie to y'all, man.
Starting point is 00:15:16 What's wrong with Memphis, Joe? I just don't want him to go to Memphis, Ocho. That's right down the street from you, though. No, I know, but I want him to go to Memphis. He won't, he won't, he won't, he, he don't know if Memphis is, can set him up for success. Yeah, I don't. I really don't. I'm going to be honest with.
Starting point is 00:15:34 They traded, they traded away JJ and gave away so many great pieces, bangs, Brooks. Like, I mean, nobody know what they're doing for real. Right. You know, they're doing it. They're trying to get the right. You got Kyrie coming back and you got Cooper Flagg. Yeah. I mean, Sacramento, you put him in Sacramento, they're going to be okay, but they're not winning
Starting point is 00:15:55 no games. Yeah, he can, now you put him in Sacramento and you let him lead, he's probably going to, he's probably going to average 20. Yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah, you put him in one in them situations and say he's going to go off. They may not win a lot of games, but he's going to show his talent. He's going to have the talents on display. Man.
Starting point is 00:16:09 So that's, that is, it is so important. A Cup finished game with 36 points scored 12 of the Razorbacks 15 in the final five minutes of regulation. He also had six assists to join Chris Paul as the only freshman to begin the NCAA tournament career with a consecutive 20.5 assists game since freshmen became fully eligible to play in 1973. Joe, Arizona take care of business against Utah, A-Cuff lead Arkansas over the Wildcats in the Sweet 16. Can he? Can A-Cuff take down Arizona? Because Arizona at one point in time was ranked number one this year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:45 They got a solid squad. So they're going to have the handful. Hey. This is where it gets sticky right here, fellas. Mm-hmm. You hear me? But, but, but if I, if I, if I'm correct, now, I know my bracket got Arkansas winning it, don't it? You do?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Oh, okay. Okay. Well, I don't think we need to talk about nothing now. I got Arkansas winning. We, hey, hey, hey, it ain't nothing personal. It ain't nothing personal with Arizona, man. It's just business. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yeah. We got some business to tend to, and we're just a couple people in our way, man. All right. Hey, Joe, you feeling good about that, huh? I'm feeling great, Ocho. What you talking about? I feel you. You know, Arizona nice over there, huh?
Starting point is 00:17:25 Yeah, we're nice, too. Did you not see? Oh, yeah. Hey, I see you. But, you know, you're going to need more than A-cup now going against them giants, man. It's okay. It's okay. Somebody else will step up.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Yeah, it is. Joe, y'all had four guys and double figures. You didn't get much. The problem is, Joe, the thing is, what concerns me about you guys is your bench. You only got two points. And basically, like you said, you play seven guys. You played Wagner. He played 22 minutes.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And Sealy played one minute. Hoo! You can't afford to get anybody in foul trouble? Yeah. Hey. Go ahead. Our starting center, he nicked up. So he may even come back next game.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Ewing, he comes out of the bench. He gave us 14 and 12 tonight. Now, he's been starting since the tournament started. He's been playing great. He's been playing unbelievable. But our true center comes back. I think he'll probably play the next game, considering that we'll probably have, what,
Starting point is 00:18:22 at least a week off, right? Yeah, y'all probably play next Thursday, next Friday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're in a good place, man. We get back home, make sure the boys get some good rest. Make sure we work, though. We've got to put in that work. You can't exhale.
Starting point is 00:18:39 You hear me? No. Hey, hey, hey. I can see it, man. I can see it. I know you, I know you on Ocho can see it, but I can see it. I see it.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I see it. Hey, I can see it, Joe. Hey, on my bracket, who I had to win the whole thing? I think Magnet State. Come on. You got Arizona. Don't do me like that. Who I got to win?
Starting point is 00:19:03 You got to win the whole thing. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, this is going to be a good one, Joe. Oh, yeah, this is what a rubber meets the role right here, Ocho. Yes, sir. They got to win first before they can come see you. They got to play you, them boys. Hey, who they play Utah State, Arizona do?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Arizona played Villanova. Villanova? No, Utah State. Yeah, this is my, yeah, I lost this one. Yeah. Utah State. Utah State, hey, Utah State better than you think. Hey, they showed me something.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Oh, yeah. Hey, look, look. Y'all talking that smack because High Point was better than what I thought. I know Utah State pretty good. They better, hey. Yeah. Them guys out there bad, hey, they got a whole lot going on. on. There ain't no party. It can't be a whole lot of party.
Starting point is 00:19:45 There ain't no alcohol. They can't do that again. They can't do that again. Study and play sports. That's it. That's it. Nebraska beats number, number four, Nebraska beats number five Vanderbilt, 74, 72. We almost had an all-time buzzer be guys from Tyler Tanner. But the half-court bang shot goes in and out. It was just, he hit it so hard. But Nebraska hangs on and they're going to the sweet.
Starting point is 00:20:12 7472 Fred Hoyberg. Nebraska Cornhuskers, 28 and 6 takes down the number five Vanderbilt Commodore's 27 and 9. Daniel game was going back and forth. Vanderbilt had to leave for a while, and I was like, okay, Vanderbilt might do it. But then here come the Cornhuskers. Vanity nice, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:35 They play hard. They had a great year. They had a great year this year. They were 5C. I hate the SEC team loss. I like for the SEC teams to continue to keep dancing, but I think I had Van did I have Van der Bell. I got damn, hey, Joe, Brad, Nebraska came out on fire, boy.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Man. But them first, what, I think what, but eight, maybe eight or ten points? They were getting money. Them boy were getting money. They were getting all. Everything were falling. And that's what it seemed like, too. When you play in them environments, bro, it's like you got teams and guys
Starting point is 00:21:09 who play way above their head. You're like, hold on, bro. You wasn't even on the scouting report. I mean, I'm trying to figure, well, I can see, I can understand why Nebraska, because if you look at it, first of all, the game really shouldn't have been this close. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Because if you think about Nebraska shot 56% from the floor, 47% from the three. Yeah. They made 70% of their free throws. They didn't get out rebounded. They had more assists. They did have four more turnovers. Yeah. The game really shouldn't have been this close.
Starting point is 00:21:37 No. Because the other team shot 41% from the floor, 35% from the three and 58% from the free throw line. I'm trying to figure out how the game come down to a two point ball game. That damn, Tanna and brother Nicol.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Man, hey, Tana got some game. He'd be getting to it. Yeah, he's nice. Yeah, that was a great game. That was a great game. It was. It was. I mean, these are not matchups that we would normally seek.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I think one of the things that, look, we love March and Man just because of the unpredictability. Yeah. You never know what's going to happen. But we also get matches that we never see. Absolutely. So now we don't have to speculate. Because it's automatically assumed what this team is in this conference,
Starting point is 00:22:19 if they played that team, this mid-weighed team with that team, they would win. You automatically assume that. But this is why you lined it up. This is why you throw the ball up in there. This is why you kick the ball off and this is why you send someone to the mound. Because you don't know what's going to happen. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And it's one game. It's not a series. It's not the best three out of five. It's not the best four out of seven. It's not the best two out of three. It's one game. In a one game, it's not who is the better team. Who plays the best on a given day or a given night?
Starting point is 00:22:49 That determines it. And we like to see this because I like to see. I like to think my team has a chance. Yeah. And in one game, they do. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:22:59 This is why people pay so much attention. Because, you know, even though a team may be a higher seed than you, them seeds really don't really matter, bro. Now when they throw that ball up and we get in between them lines and we start competing, it's going to be your will versus mine. Mm-hmm. Uh? I got Arizona.
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Starting point is 00:27:28 I got Purdue advancing. But wouldn't the brackets look like now? Huh? It ain't looking good. It ain't looking good. Yeah. If Arkansas continued to win, Joe, it's going to be hard for us to catch, Joe. Hey, who?
Starting point is 00:27:49 Me and you? Both of you. Both of us. Oh, no, no, I don't know about that. Because he's already substantial ahead and he got Arkansas. Because he's fake about it, Ocho. You got Arizona cutting down the nest. If Arkansas beats Arizona, you got no chance to win the national title.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Yeah, I don't, okay. Hey, Joe, listen, it ain't nothing personal, it's just business. Okay, what you, I, I'm going, I'm going for the wildcast, boy. Oh, man, look. Hey, listen, hey, I love you like a little brother, man. That's how you at?
Starting point is 00:28:19 Hey, no, I'm just saying this business ain't nothing personal. This ain't nothing personal. This ain't nothing personal. What you did to me on Monday and you come back on Saturday. That's what you're going to do? Yeah, hey, hey, listen, like, like they say, like they say, you never think about the past. You always worry about the future.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Okay. Huh? If you dwell on the pads, that mean you ain't doing nothing to pray. Hey, that means you tread water. I got you. I got you tread water. You got you got to be going forward. Hey, look, I knew you was an op from day one, though.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Damn, Joe. I knew you were out from day one. I ain't going to see here and hold you and act like I'm surprised. I'm not, I know. See, I know I already know you can. I know how you move. I know how you operate. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yes, sir. You hear me? So it don't surprise me that you're going against the grain. I, I, damn. Yo, I'm not going against the grain. I'm trying to win my goddamn bracket, Joe. Number 11, Texas takes down number three, Gonzaga. By the score 7468, Texas with four guys in double figures,
Starting point is 00:29:20 Mataz, Pope, Swain, and Cody, all had double figures and points. They overcame Graham Ike. Ikee, I guess how you say his day, is the Ike, Ikekeke. How he overcame, they overcame history. 25 points. The difference, you know, bench points played a role. But it was a good game. Texas played well.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I didn't, I mean, watching Texas a little bit this year, I was like, ain't no way they're beating Gonzaga. Yeah, I ain't think so neither. They're another SEC team or team that I've seen play a few times this year, especially against my razorbacks. I didn't see this neither, guys. But they play well. This is why, like I keep saying, we're in March, neutral sites.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah, no home court advantage. Yeah. Seating don't matter. I mean, both teams took care of the ball. Texas had five turnover. Gonzaga had seven. The rebounds were very close, 34th, 29 in Gonzaga's favor. Assess was close, 21 to 20.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Steels was five to four. Bloss was two to one. Offensive rebounds were nine to four, nine to five, excuse me. So, yeah, I mean, you get a close ball game. So it was a type of game that we thought we would get. But I didn't think Texas, you know, giving up their health to scale to the up and down season. I didn't see, I didn't see, I didn't see Texas playing this well and winning this ball game. I ain't either.
Starting point is 00:30:48 But you look at their field goal percentage on 52% Texas shot. That's, hey, hey, hey, Uncle Ocho, I don't care who you playing. You let them shoot 52% from the field. You're going to lose a lot. You're going to lose a majority of them games, brother. That's why I was surprised by the other day. they shot, well, what you call it, we see why they won. They shot 56% from the 4, 47% for the 3.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And I was like, how was the game even that close for it to come down to a heed that could have also lost you the ball game? Who does Texas play next? They play the one of Miami Purdue. Should be a good ball game. Miami Purdue. Miami Purdue should be a very, very, very good ball game. Texas has 11 NCAA tournament wins at the double-digit C, the most of any programs. Since the seating began in 1979.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Okay. In 1979, everybody knows that's the bird magic. Mm. That was in, I think they ended up playing in Salt Lake City. In the, in the championship. That was really what put, that's what really put it on the map. The NTA championship. That's part of Mark's madness on the map.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Prior to then, ain't nobody care. Yeah. But you know what you got. Magic. That was a couple of years after Roots came out and you had everybody put for this guy, everybody pulled for that guy. Hey, hold on, a couple years after what? Roots came out.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Oh, but. Oh, boy, you bring back some good memories, boy. Yeah, Ruth. And they bring about some good memories because they had a lot of fights in high school after these people. Yeah, oh, yeah, I know you. They brought some memories there. They're like, hey, I don't know why y'all put that on.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Y'all caused it problems in our neighborhood. Hold on. We had to watch it in class. You watch yours in class? We watched it at home. We didn't watch it. Boy, they had a council school. Boy, there was so many fights going on.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had to watch out. Yeah, you're talking about watching the class. The last thing, they didn't want you to watch it at home. It was history class, too, for me, huh? And then obviously, we had to watch it. It was not series, what do you call them? Multiple, um.
Starting point is 00:32:53 There was a mini series. Many, yeah. Oh, yeah, okay, mini-series. So we had to write a paper on it. And, man, listen. Do Blast. TCU. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:33:12 About the score of 80-1 to 58 is the tail of two halves for Cameron Boozer. Yeah. In the first two points, he was 0-1 on the first half. Two points on 0-1 field goal and plus the minus plus minus five and 15 minutes. In the second half, he was 17 points on seven or nine shooting plus 20 in 19 minutes. Joe, he got it going in the second half. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And you can see, they had it going. They didn't need him to do a whole. whole lot, but, I mean, they shot 55% from the floor. They shot 87% from the two point, uh, the free throw line, excuse me, 20 of 23 from the free throw line because they're so big. Man, they're tall team. Huge, but. They're, I mean, hey, and they get offensive rebounds.
Starting point is 00:33:57 They get put back. You ain't got no choice but to file them. Yeah. And the horn frogs were overmatched. And, uh, man, booze is, he's something. Hey, he's something. He started off slow uncle, Uncle Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:09 But boy, he made Camboozza made that thing look so easy in that second half. Yeah. Yeah. I think. The problem is that when he's struggling, you got to put some separation between you. Yeah. You can't be down. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And he's struggling like he's struggling. He's giving you 22 and 10 on the season. You got him at two points. You better, hey, you better be, and you need to be in front of them by about six to ten points. Yeah. I agree. I agree. What I noticed was Glenn for me is that.
Starting point is 00:34:39 you know, he averaging what, what do you have in, 22, 22 again? 22 and 10. Even though he only had two points in that first half, Uncle Ocho, it wasn't like he was like one for eight, one for nine. You know what I mean? He finished seven for ten from the field. So he was patient, and in the second half he turned it up. Man, that's poised from a young guy, a young freshman,
Starting point is 00:35:02 who I think is going to have a tremendous pro career. I mean, he's a monster down there, bro. Yeah. He, you know, he got the body type. Hell, he already built like his dad. Yeah. He already built like booze. And you think he's better than pops at this stage?
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah. Coming out right now, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Right now, yes. Now, will he be a better pro? I don't know. Bruze was an all-star.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah. Turn himself as a second round pick, end up getting a big-time deal from Utah. Yeah. So I don't know what he'll be. Will he be better than his dad? But if you were to project him right now, if you look at him right now,
Starting point is 00:35:39 He definitely better than his dad as a freshman, hell. Yeah. His dad didn't come out. But as a freshman, yes. Is he a better college player than his dad? Yes. Will he be a better pro than his dad? That remains to be seen.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Right. But this kid's flat out damn play. Yeah, he can play. It's nothing flashy about his game. Like, ain't nothing going to jump off the screen. Yeah. Kind of on like on some Tim Duncan type stuff. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:02 Like, he just get it done, bro. It may not look as pretty to some, but it's effective. It's effective. Yeah. Yes. And, but Duke, I mean, you get, Malik Brown gave you 12, and you got Sarr gave you 14, and Evans gave you 17. Even Caden Boozoo, who had an outstanding game the first round, he gave you nine.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah. They got 10 points. I mean, they don't really depend on the bitch. It's those starters that you have to worry about. Yeah, everybody was in double figures except one person. Mm-hmm. And so that's what you have to worry about with Duke. They come at you.
Starting point is 00:36:40 that they're, look. A good T.C. To convince those guys to play together because, look, all these guys are four and five stars. Yeah. All these guys were the guy at their prospective schools. Yeah. Now for the greater good, we need you to sacrifice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's a lot easier said than done. Oh, yeah. Because everybody thinks they got an opportunity to be a damn lottery pick, a top five pick. Hello. I can't be no top five. I can't be no top five pick, you know, I need, hey, let me, I need to get me like 15 and 10. 15 and 8, 20 and 8. And you're talking about share the ball?
Starting point is 00:37:13 Hey, no, no, uh-uh, uh-uh. And you know, some of these guys Joe probably average 25 and 15, 30 and 8. What did you talk about? In high school. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's a difference. That's a difference. See, in high school, you can be the best because you might be playing with less talent.
Starting point is 00:37:31 You know what I mean? Yeah. Once you get the college, power five, bro, everybody on the team talented. Yeah. You know what I mean? The cream going to rise to the top. But for the most part, I just feel like when you get to college
Starting point is 00:37:41 you can kind of see the separating factor of a lot of guys. You know what I mean? Guys who really got that it factor, you know, they start to show it. And it shows up in close tight games, bro. And you get a cut, you go to do you with you as a guy in college. You hear me? Yeah, they ain't just, I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:00 just like any time, you go to New Big Time, you go to Ohio State, you go to Alabama, you go to Georgia. You can play in high school, you're a damn good high school play. Yeah. They ain't just giving no, no arbor. Look, they might have a, one or two guys that they did a favor to for this big booster or somebody got a legacy scholarship or something like that. But for the most part, they top 80 guys?
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah. They legit. Yeah. Well, you obviously, you don't have that many guys in basketball. These guys can play. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Ain't a one star.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Ain't a walk on. He comes out there on senior night and his dad said, I'm proud of your son. You stuck it out for four years. Yeah. You get to get me. Hey. Hey. Hey.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Hey. Hey. Hey. You don't get that no more? And look, hey, you think you, you think, you think you're going to come in here and it's going to be smooth selling them dudes put in work. Okay, Ocho, we did a training camp when I played for the Brooklyn Nets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:52 We did a training camp in Duke. And, man, they got an NBA facility, bro. This ain't no, this ain't no pee-wee stuff. You hear me? Yeah. Look, the guy, you go to those programs. You know why you go there. Yes, I can get a great.
Starting point is 00:39:09 education in a year? In a year? I'm trying to get to the age level. You're not going to stay there long enough to graduate. Now, you might eventually go back and take online classes and get your degree. But you ain't get no damn degree in no one year. Right, right. You look at all them guys, they won and done.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Kyrie, one and done. Cooper Flagg, one and done. Zion, one and done. Ingram, one and done. Tatum, one and done. Yeah. Laitner, they stay in four years. Grant Hill, Thomas Hill, all those guys.
Starting point is 00:39:43 It ain't like that no more. It was different. They're gone. I'm coming to Duke. You know why I'm coming. Because I remember, hey, I remember the coach that you're talking about they mess up your program. I ain't, I ain't recruiting no one and done.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Okay. John said, I take them all. Coach Cal said, I take them all. Can't beat them join them. You right. Hey, son, you want to be one and done. Come on. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Hey, you got to be the gateway to the league. You got to fall in line. You know, you got to keep up with the Joneses. These young dudes ain't trying to be in school no more than one year. That's it. You got to be special, though, now. I just left four. I just left school for four.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I just left school for 12 years out of the school. How long? You think I want to do this upon another vote? Absolutely not. Man, I'm trying to get this thing. I'm trying to be, hey, I'm going to class until after, until after the, year. When the new year hit, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Hey, Uncle Joe. What's up? But who the best to come out of Duke? Well, who the best Blue Devil to come out of their play at the next level? You talk about just as a college player? Yeah. Chris St. Layton.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Chris and Layton, yeah. Damn, y'all answered that fast. Yeah. As a college player? Now, you're talking about who transitioned and became a pro. That remains to be seen. Probably Grant Hill had the highest ceiling. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:06 But he got hurt because Grant could do. at all. He was LeBron before LeBron. The guy that 6'4-8 could handle the ball, could initiate the offense with an outstanding defensive player, could score the basketball. He was going to be sensational. Obviously, injuries robbed him of that. But as a college
Starting point is 00:41:22 player, it ain't even close. Nobody at Duke close to Christian Leitner. I got a question. I got a question. Obviously, we know what Kyrie can do in the NBA. I didn't watch college, I didn't watch college basketball back then. So how far was Kyrie from what he is in the NBA, as opposed to when it was at Duke?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Was he far off or you could already tell him? You got to realize Cairoi got hurt. Caii only played like maybe 15 games. Yeah. That's it? Yeah, he got hurt. He got hurt. He hurt.
Starting point is 00:41:46 He hurt his foot. Ocho, he got hurt and still win number one. Yes. That's how special he was. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:54 But when he played, now, he played in the second half of the season, Ocho. Now, he got there getting money. He wasn't out there to his bull driving now. Yeah. Yeah. Man, y'all need to stop. As a college player, wasn't nobody close to Christian Lake. Wait, who they said?
Starting point is 00:42:07 That is a college player. You can make a case that Christian Layton is a top five college player of all time. Back-to-back national championship, they took down the mythical team in a UNLV. I don't know if y'all remember that Saturday when they went up when they played LSU. Do y'all remember what they did to the Fab Five? Man, y'all better get that man his credit. I'm not saying what he transitioned into. I'm talking about as a purely college player.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Ain't nobody touching him at you. The chance said, no. They're talking about Grand Hill. Grant Hill was the second option to Crystal Leightner. Bobby Hurley was a second option. Thomas Hill was a second option. Although, Chris DeLatner
Starting point is 00:42:43 and the shot that he hit against Kentucky. Oh, yeah, I remember that. I remember that. No, he was real. He was real. He was real. He was real. No, Crystal Latelyt was really good.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I couldn't stand Duke. That joke or dare. Nobody can stand Duke. Hey, but you know. That dude there? Now, if you talk about like, transition, like the ability. He wasn't fast.
Starting point is 00:43:09 He couldn't jump. But that Joker just did everything right. Man, that joke will back, do you up and under, get your A&1, got your being in foul trouble, like, damn. Yeah, yeah. Somebody beat them. Yeah, A-O-JO and night. And I was so happy when UNLV beat them beat them,
Starting point is 00:43:23 they'll beat the brakes off of him in the national championship. And then the next year they come back at I bet, damn. They didn't beat, they didn't beat, they didn't beat, they didn't beat UNLB in the national championship because we knew that was going to be the national, that was the national championship right there. And then he followed up again and got it back to back. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:40 When the last time you saw an S-A team go back-to-back? Hell, Duke, might be the last team to go back to back. Florida, Florida, Ihorford, I-Horfer, Florida. At Florida. Florida, what, 0-607? Yeah. Yeah. That's hard to go back to back.
Starting point is 00:43:58 A big guy out, had Yolkeem Noah, Corey Brewer. Yeah. They had a nice squad. Yeah. It ain't, man, it's hard to go, it's hard to go back to back. In college? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Especially. It ain't like it used to be where guys actually stayed all four years. Right. Them guys gone. I won a national championship and I'm the guy.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I mean, for Florida, for Al Horford and Kim and Brewer, for them to come back and try to do it again. Yeah. Boy, they must, hey, they really love the college life, guys. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:44:36 Most of them guys, they gone. Because they weren't even getting NIL back then. Hell not. I mean, for what we know. Man, I... Yukon went back to back, right? Do you con go back to back?
Starting point is 00:44:50 Did you? Yeah. So, Yukon went back to back 23, 24. Florida went back to back, what, 06, 07, and then did anybody go back to back in the 90s other than Duke? No, my razor back, they went to the championship game back to back, but we lost to UCLA in 95. 95.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah. That's when they had the O'Bannon boy. Yep. Yep. And Ty's Edney, right? Yep. Yep. You know a little something, something, don't you?
Starting point is 00:45:30 That boy will be locked in over that on it. Yeah, man. You know, y'all had Todd Day and Corners Williams. You all had a little choir, though. Yeah, they had some hard-working boys, boy. Yeah. But, hell, Coach Richardson, you had to have no choice but to be hard-working. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Houston, number two, Houston Cougars beat Texas A and, 8857 of Cougars freshman Chris Sinnak Jr. continue to play well-finished with 17 points, 9 rebounds as they out rebounded the Aggins 46 to 29. And Big 12, all defensive selection, Emmanuel Sharp, now my cousin, put together the movie footballer, 18.9. He ain't got the e-on-his name.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Cougars 4th, the aggregate, 11 turnovers, and just 35% shooting. Hey, Joe Sampson got them boys playing. Now, they play. Did Texas A&M leave? they game at home? What they... I mean...
Starting point is 00:46:21 Hey, Joe, they're Texas Indian them, they couldn't get nothing going. They damn they had nobody no goddamn double figures except one person. They only are the other way.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Hey, well, I'm gonna tell y'all something. Uncle, you're right. Coach Simpson be having them boys roll and they play defense. That's why do you see Texan NM only with 57 points? Them boys, hey, they don't play. They got some dogs.
Starting point is 00:46:43 They got some dogs under that basket. Didn't nobody really, I mean, they... Didn't nobody really just. just stand out. I know Sharp played well. But Slimmer didn't really do a whole lot. That's the freshman phenom, but they got a win. I mean. You know who played well?
Starting point is 00:46:57 Who? Masterpiece, son, Mercy. He was stroking it. Yeah. I seen it call out the bitch, 22 minutes, 12 points. Yeah. He could shoot it. Yeah. He said he can shoot it. Now, I mean, I mean, people sending me videos that this kid when he's at, I think it's at Notre Dame. Oh, yeah? Um, high school, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I see he be out there working in L.A. with Chris Johnson. Yeah, he can play. Yeah, Houston tough. Hey, they're going to beat. They're going to be there at the end of the day. When you're talking about being in the thick of Houston going to beat her. They're relentless, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:33 They're on the defensive end. Yeah. Wasn't he coached Samson. Didn't he coached in Oklahoma? He coached you, the Griffin. Didn't he coached Blake Griffin in Oklahoma? Yeah, he coached at Oklahoma. He coached at Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:47:44 They ain't played no defense like this. No, sir. He gets, hey, and he's playing, he's playing 11, 12 guys. I mean, he's playing 13, 14 guys. But the thing is, when you play, when you play that hard, you can't play them guys that many minutes. You got to have, you got to be deep. And you got to have a thing.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Because you're asking guys to pick up 94 feet, Joe. Mm-hmm. Well. You're asking an awful lot. And I understand these guys are young. They're 17, 18, 19 years old. And when you know, you 17, 18, 19, you could, you know, you could, you could, you could, uh, you could run all day.
Starting point is 00:48:17 But to play in the tournament to play because it's such a quick turnaround, it's only a day rest in between. Yeah, when you get to, when you get to them, you know, especially like the first round and second round, they play two games around, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's tough. But when you got a week off like this, you can regroup. Oh, you good? Yeah, we get back to the drawing board, man. Hey.
Starting point is 00:48:43 You don't feel good, a little good. You don't go back there, feel a little good. and everybody pat you on the left. Yeah, yeah. Don't relax, though. Don't relax. We got to stay locked in. Woo pig, now.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Yeah, what's really good. Okay, I'm a lock-head, Joe. I'll lock it on Monday. But right now, I get back home, you know, something's something crack. Listen, listen, listen, we take care of this tournament. Now, you, hey, in June, we all be at the draft now. Hey, hey, let's stay locked in.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Hey, hey, if I'm saying, hell long. Hold on, Joe, you know what I'm saying? So, soon as the tournament over, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. About ageing guy already. got me a coach. Hey, I understand that, but you got like two, three more of the guys on this team
Starting point is 00:49:21 who can go with you now. Yeah, okay. Joe, you know you was gone. After the tournament, but you was gone, Joe. You didn't stick around in Arkansas. Well, the Chinese man, one gone. I'm out. I'm out of there.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Listen, I'm going to go to go to you. I did what I came to do, bro. I ain't gonna like to you y'all. I came to school for basketball. That's it. Yeah, yeah. Hey, what's your major? Eligibility.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Right. That's my major. Right, right. Boy, I ain't going to lie to you. Hey, I didn't get no academic scholarship. I came to play football. That's it. So as long as I can stay eligible to play football,
Starting point is 00:49:59 hey, I'll be all right. I'll tell you, I'm trying to tell you. Hey, well, you think y'all going to load me or would all these 23, 24 hours a day, boy, please. Mm-mm. Oh, sir. We're on the quarter system, though. So it was different.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Y'all was on a semester. I don't know what it's like. We had quarters, so we had three quarters. Three quarter, I'm saying. So you want the class every day, though, right? Every day. Every day. Hey, that quarter system, it's six or eight weeks.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Something like that, Ocho. Yeah. Because we had fall quarter, winter, quarter spring. Right. And, you know, I don't know, maybe they do now. But HBC, when I was in, Savannah State, they didn't play for no summer school. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick.
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Starting point is 00:54:34 Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, they did? Before they had no money sent me to for summer school, so I had hit them fields. I had my school clothes. Hey. Oh, man. Hey, you know, I know you're in development of study. You might want to come to summer school and, you know, try to catch, you know, get a head.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah. I said, who paying for that? You know, like, colleges, my brother, South Carolina, I don't pay for them to go to summer school. Oh, yeah? My brother ain't come. Once my brother went there, my brother never came back home. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:19 He was gone. He was gone. He was gone. Yeah. Right. We ain't got no money to pay for no summer school, bro. Class is probably like, if classes wasn't that much, Joe, probably like $500. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:33 But if you take three classes, that's $500, and you got to get on the meal playing. That's another two. What? $7,500? $50? Where are we going to get that money? Well, that's a lot of money back then, huh? Man, hey, think about how many kids who were putting that type of situation
Starting point is 00:55:49 and couldn't get it done or just didn't have a means to, you know, to be able to even go to college, bro, but had the talent. Man, please. Hey, hey, you better know somebody. Hey, I don't know where you're going to get that from. Not no $7, $750 in 1986, $86. Oh, no. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Ash, how much is $17.50. Back then in today's money. In 1986, 87, 87, 88. But that's, hey, Joe, that's big cash back then, boy. Boy, what? Like to be able to have that, to spend, you know, to pay for classes? You know what you got to be making? That's $5,000 in today's money.
Starting point is 00:56:39 So who got $5,000 in three months? What? Oh, hell no. And you got to pay for books. Oh yeah And you know When you on scholarship Ocho
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah You can, hey Joe You know You can drop a class Man I don't like this F this I dropped this class I'm telling you Hey night classes
Starting point is 00:57:00 Man I mean I think I'm in the hole y'all I ain't coming back I'm done No I took I tried night class
Starting point is 00:57:09 One time Once I don't know what it is I've done Took a nap Ocho I'm you Joe I don't took a nap
Starting point is 00:57:16 I'm good I said man I got to get this nap I got me an hour and a half, two hour and a nap. Right. Man, soon as that Joe will start talking. Yeah. You're out of there.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Hey, hey. I said, man, I went right over there to the deed office. I dropped that class. Hey, that's because you're disinterested. Well, when you be disinterested or something, hey, it's hard to lock it. Oh, yeah. Man, look here. My daughter, she ain't on scholarship.
Starting point is 00:57:41 She owns Shannon Scholarship. Yes, sir. She's dropping classes. Uh-oh. I like Kayla. You get your money back? Hell no. Oh.
Starting point is 00:57:52 There's no damn money back. You drop no class. That's tough. What the hell? I said, you know what? You're trying to be a professional student. I got something for you. I got something for you.
Starting point is 00:58:07 You tried to stay here myself eight years. Because it's everything peachy. You got a nice apartment. She got her own apartment. Her brother got his own apartment. You got both of you got vehicles. Meal playing, paid for a book. Oh, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:58:24 No, you got to come up on out of here, baby. Come on up out of here. Come on up out of here. Hey. Yeah, but when you on scholarship, Joe, hey, man, this playing hard as hell, man. This teacher tripping. Drop. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Drop. Up. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey, I'm telling y'all, man, I had 23, they had me pound down with 23 hours a day. When I was getting out of class, I literally had 30 to 45 minutes to get to the gym because they're practice about to get ready to start. Man, please, there ain't no way y'all think I'm from to be in class all day and go straight to practice. What time you start class, Joe?
Starting point is 00:59:07 8 o'clock, 8 o'clock, 8 o'clock in the morning. I started class at 8 o'clock, 8 to 9, 9 to 10, 10 to 11, 11 to 12. No. Go eat lunch. Practice started at 3 o'clock. I nap for 90 minutes because we had to walk to practice. We couldn't drive to practice. So we had to walk to practice.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Rain, sleep, doesn't it matter. You walk to practice, get dressed, go practice, walk back. Just enough time you have like 30 minutes to eat, eat dinner. Yeah. Go get your school, get your homework done. Hey, hey. College is different, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:41 But all you got to do is just be disciplined in your time. Time management is very important in college. Because, you know, you got X amount of time for class. You got practice. You got, you know, homework, study. Study hall. That's it. We ain't had no study hall.
Starting point is 00:59:57 No? No, we had study hall. We hadn't going to no study hall. No, you, you, hey, you had to go to study hall at the University of Arkansas. Yeah. You don't care if you went in there and took you a nap and sat out and read a book. As long as you're in there. You got to be in now.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Man, look here. That calls money. Because you had somebody overseas study hall. Oh, yeah. They ain't had that, Joe. They ain't had that, as a matter of state. I'm not saying what they might not have now. I'm just saying from 86 to 89, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:00:32 No, no. And the thing was on Friday, because, you know, during the season, we travel on Friday. Yeah. So you got to go by, get your home, get your homework, get your work, get your work what you got to be doing, that you might, I have that you got to meet. Boy, it was rough. I was like, Lord, have mercy.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Man, hey. I said, man, I got to, I got to get on, get this thing here, man. I remember them day. I remember them day. Yeah. He, hey, hey, boy. Got to work out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I was a good student, though. I was a good student. I just didn't apply myself in high school. Same. That's me. Same. But, no, no, no. We ain't have no film study.
Starting point is 01:01:15 That was the thing, Ocho. I think I watched maybe two films in college, two pieces of film in college. Wow. Yeah, I don't watch things. You, Ocho. Everybody played man. Yeah. What was no own defense?
Starting point is 01:01:28 Everybody played man. Wasn't no point in watching none then. What? I think we watched Georgia Southern, my senior year, and we watched Central Florida, my sophomore year. Not the only time we watched film. Hmm. That was it. Oh, Joe, you watch film in college?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Yeah. At Oregon State, yeah. Definitely. And then once I got to the NFL, but I was a, I was a rat, boy, when it came to watching film. I ain't know how to watch film. What hell I'm looking for?
Starting point is 01:02:05 What I'm supposed to be? Joe, I watch it like, what I'm looking for. Oh, you understand. Okay. Yeah, you learn what to look for once you got to the next level, though, huh? Once they told me what I'm looking for. For, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:15 You know, because I was a tight end. Okay, now I got to learn the front. You got an overfront, you got an underfront. An overfront, they got four down linemen. An underfront, they got the down linemen, and they got a linebacker on the ball. Right. Now three, four, they got three down linemen, two linebackers. Four linebackers, actually, they got a mic, they got a wheel, a Sam, a mic, and a plug.
Starting point is 01:02:37 So, okay, now you got an underneck, okay, he's in a wide nine. He's in a cowboy, which is a slight nine. Okay, he's in a cell. He's in a five. He's in a shade. He's in a tilt. He's in a cock. Man, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Okay, Shannon. In this front right here, they like to play this coverage. Okay, okay. So, okay, let's try to tie a coverage to a front. They don't play this coverage in the underfront. They only play this coverage to an overfront. So now I come down, I don't see a line back on the ball. It's an overfront.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Okay. They told me they don't play this coverage to a overfront. an overfront. Yeah. They play this coverage to an underfront. So now I got a head start on the old show.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I said, okay. Yeah. I feel it good, Ocho. I'm like, yeah, y'all are my under. I know what y'all liens. Y'all is going to pay this coverage. I feel the good about myself,
Starting point is 01:03:30 Ojo. Then all of a sudden, they start off in the overfront and then here come the line back and walk his ass up on the line to an over, to an underfront. Oh, Lord.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Damn. What coverage they like to run in this underfront? So once I got the hang of it, I'm like, okay, I got it now, I got it. I didn't get it. I didn't get a hang of it until year two, Joe. Joe and Aunt, you know, understanding what I'm watching.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah. Once I got to understand what the defenses were doing and knowing what my assignments is and understanding where the danger is, based on each play and based on each coverage. Yeah. Yo, that's when the entertainment and the shit talking started. Like toward the end of year two.
Starting point is 01:04:16 That's when I started to feel a little bit more confident because it no matter what you do, I know exactly once that ball hike, I know where every, I call it a red area. My red area is where it's dangerous based on the route concepts that we run in. So I know once that ball snap,
Starting point is 01:04:33 I know exactly where each and every person got to be. Yep. So I could just go out there and play freely and I don't have to think. Yeah. If I had to think, but, nah, I ain't, I ain't doing it. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Shit. Hey, hey, and basketball, it's different. Hey, look, my rookie year, see, I wanted to play so bad. I had to know, I had to know all of the commands, plays, and that was the
Starting point is 01:05:00 hardest thing because as a rookie. Yeah. So your opportunity is going to come few in between. You know what I mean? You ain't going to get many, but the ones you do get, you want to make them count.
Starting point is 01:05:08 You got to make it happen. Man, y'all should see me. They've been to drew two plays up in the hudder. I come out there and I, like, damn, what What do you say we got? Joe, that's me.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Hey, hey. Joe, that's me, Ojo. Hey, that's me. They had to run past me, ugly. Hey, come on, get over there in the corner. We're going to go through. I'm like, okay. Ocho, they put me in motion.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Yeah. They put me emotion. I go by the quarterback. I stop. What I got again now? I'm getting it. God. They got it.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Hey. Hey. Hey, man, like, hey. Hey, but that's funny, boy. Man, they just clobbed me. That's like, hey, Steve Bairwaters say, sharp. You know damn well. You didn't know that play when you left the damn hurdle.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Why you let that man go through that snap, that cadence? And then you talk about he ready to snap the ball and you're talking about what you got. You know that you didn't know what you had before you left the huddle. Oh, shit. That's funny, bro. Man, that thing was so embarrassing, man, Ocho. Man. Man, there, I swear.
Starting point is 01:06:22 I did not, I said, man, I said, ain't no way this man like me. This man doesn't cuss me, don't call me. I said, Lord, have mercy. I say, I know I'm not this done. Why, I can't remember these damn plays. They're like, Sheldon, we can't put you in there because you don't, son, you don't know what they do. I mean, you're athletic, you big, you fast, you strong, you willing, you'll block.
Starting point is 01:06:51 But son, you don't know. what to do. I know that feeling, but. I was a man, I just call my brother, man, I'd be cry, be crying for it. He said, bro, what's wrong? I can't, I just can't, I can't learn this issue. He said, you putting, I said, man, you're putting too much pressure. Shanna, you can learn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:10 He's a chef. Let me call me, he's a chef. He's a chef. Just, just relax. You're putting too much pressure on yourself. You're okay. Hey, just, hey, you remember, think about all the stuff we used to young. You memorize everything. Everything. Memorize that playbook, memorize that playbook, like you memorize all the other.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Hey, boy, I tell you, I tell you what my grandma used to tell me. How about you memorize whatever you got to do, especially when to come to school, the same way you memorize them goddamn rap. Hello. Yep. Huh? You know, every goddamn lyric there. You know, every lyric there, every goddamn song. but you don't know what the hell
Starting point is 01:07:50 you're supposed to be goddamn doing in school. Nope. You know, high school is bad. I just, man, I owe you I couldn't get it. I was like,
Starting point is 01:07:57 Lord, have mercy. I say, I know I'm not dumb. I say, I know I'm not dope. Is it? I mean, I'll be playing,
Starting point is 01:08:04 hey, I'll be playing Jeopardy. I'll pretend I got the clicker. I'm stopping. I'm getting them right guessing. The man told me to play. I can't remember the damn play. It's.
Starting point is 01:08:16 But boy. Once you get it. They messed up when they let me get the plays. Yeah. Once you get it. The mistake that they made is that I had, I was able. Because what got me, though, is that, Ocho, you know, they move you around. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Okay. I'm a Z, but I also got to learn slot. Mm. And now I also got to learn the X. Yeah. You see, you have to understand, Ocho. The tight end is X in Dan's offense. It's not Y.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Right. So now the Z receiver is a win. the Y is the X receiver. Come on, man. It doesn't make no sense. Everybody knows the Y is the tight end. The Z is the receiver to the tight end side, and the X is on the ball on the weak side.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Why you do all this? Say, whatever, man. Y'all don't want me to play. That's what y'all do. Y'all change this because y'all didn't want me to play. I'm coming up with every excuse, guys. Why I can't learn this damn playbook. There's too many plays, bro.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Man, you, I want you tell you, Joe. What they install on Monday, what you don't get, they go on the Tuesday. Yep. What you don't get on Tuesday, they're going to Wednesday. They go on the Thursday. They go on the Friday. They go on the Saturday. And then they're going to come back and put some of Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Starting point is 01:09:48 Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. And you don't fall behind now. Don't miss a day. boy it's going to be here but one thing about it, Joe, once you know what you're doing, once you're comfortable with the offense, you know, you've been with a team
Starting point is 01:10:03 for a year or two or maybe three. You're comfortable and then you can play freely. You don't have to think, and you just recall, boom, he called that play. You come out the huddle and you already got a plan in your head on what you got to do.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Absolutely. What they put out there in front of you? Yeah. Man, it's one of the greatest. Michigan State beat Louisville, 7769. Jeremy Fears submitted this place in Michigan State history as the Spartan marks on to the Sweet 16 with a win over Louisville. With 16 assists, Fears became the first Big Ten player in the last 50 years with 27 dishes over two games in the NCAA tournament span.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Passing Magic Johnson 25 in the 1979, Sweet 16, and the Elite 8. Fears 16 assists are also the most by a Big Ten player in an NCAA tournament game in the last 50 years. Michigan State looked good. You know, Louisville is missing their freshman phenom. I forgot his name. He's probably going to be a top 10, top 12 pick, Uncle Ocho. Yeah. He didn't play.
Starting point is 01:11:12 He hadn't played in the NCAA tournament for whatever reason. I like Michigan State because they play hard and they hang their head on defense. They're going to scrap. That's always Izzo staple. There you go. You know, Izzo. they take on the mantra of the coach, bro. They play hard, they scrappy.
Starting point is 01:11:29 You know, they don't give up nothing easy. They got great guard play, which could take them a long way. But I don't know offensively, they don't really have their scoring power that you need to kind of advance. I think they play great defense. But when you play against some great guards, it ain't going to be a lot different. Yeah. man that car he got some ups he's looking to flush everything hey he's looking to he's looking to poke on everybody don't hey okay now like you're going to block somebody you're going to be on his poster
Starting point is 01:12:03 that man scratching his back with that basketball you're me yeah he's scratching his back yeah yeah he nasty he nasty he nasty he can get up he can get up he can get up Michigan state look good though they look good 16 assists that's That's a lot of assists in college There ain't no record of none No I don't think so what's the most What's the NC record for assist in the game?
Starting point is 01:12:33 Yeah Damn Well you know the NBA record is 30 By Scott Scott Scouts Orlando Yeah You think somebody Yeah one game
Starting point is 01:12:53 Yeah one game Somebody gonna pass that one day though Oh 19 in the tournament game Joe Who has it? Who has it? Oh I don't know know who they have no earthly idea. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Well, Rhondo was close. Rondo had a couple 24. I think Rondo had like a 26. Yeah. You're going to have some boys who can fill it up. Who playing with you? I know that. They got to be able to shoot.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Joe, they probably take you out. What's that? They probably take you out because you're going to have a big, once you get like 20 or since, you're probably blowing somebody out, Joe. Yeah. I know, man. You probably post somebody out.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Unless everybody's shots falling, though, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Unless you come down and you got about 15, 16 in the first half, assist, yeah. I'm going for it then. You got to get off to a great start, man. Yeah, the difference in the ballgame,
Starting point is 01:13:59 I mean, Louisville went to the free throw line six times, and Michigan State went to the free throw line 19 times. So you got a plus 10. you got a plus 10, just on file shots. Yeah. Yeah. Louisville short-handed. It's just,
Starting point is 01:14:20 yeah. Tournament time, man, if you ain't full strength, them doing weaknesses is going to get exposed real quick. Yep. Michigan beat St. Louis, the Billicans, the Wolverines had nine blocks. They're most in the NCAA tournament game since blocks were first tracked in 1985-86,
Starting point is 01:14:44 and the Billicans were out rebodied 42 to 27. Lindenberg scored 25 points. What did they call him to something, LeBron? What they called Lindenberg? They came to first Michigan player with 25 plus points and no turnover than the NCAA tournament game since Glenn. Man, Glenn Wright, man, I don't even want to talk about Glenn Rice
Starting point is 01:15:03 because, man, that Joe got so God, don't go hot Joe Ocho and Joe in 1989. Yeah. Because that's when they ended up firing their coach because he took a job and he wanted to stay on the coach. And Bo Schimbergler, who was an athletic director, but now we want a Michigan man to coach a Michigan team. So they gave it to the assistant coach.
Starting point is 01:15:23 And man, that's when they had Glenn Rice and Terry Mills. I think Romero Robinson was on that team also. But boy, William Robinson? He went off. Cooked every, I think every like 30 in the tournament. They ain't winning, did it? Yes. Did it?
Starting point is 01:15:43 Yes. Yeah, they called him the Dominican LeBron. That's what they call Lyndon, Lindenburg, the Dominican LeBron. Michigan now has the first Big Ten team to record back-to-back NCAA tournament games with 90-plus points since winning the title in 1989. Yeah. Michigan got some boys over there, boy. Look at what boy.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Hey, Joe, the boy, tall. Oh, they, man, because I was a Tar Hill fan. Man, they cook the Tar Hill. That's what they had J.R. Reed. Oh, okay, okay. You see that boy out there at there, 7-3? Man, ain't a boy at all, Joe. For Michigan?
Starting point is 01:16:22 Yeah. Man. Yeah, Michigan looked good. They, Glenn, I mean, he couldn't miss. Joe and Ocho is like every time he shot the ball, that issue went in. It was cab. Now, he can fill it up. He was cooking.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Glenn Rice at Michigan. He can school their ball now. Miami Heat Glenn Rice, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Charlotte Hornet, Green Rice. I think he ended up.
Starting point is 01:16:49 playing with the Lakers, too. Yeah, he won a championship with the Lakers. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Glenn. Steve Fisher was the coach. He ended up, he was the coach for also with the Fab Five. Oh, Steve Fisher was, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Mm-hmm. What conference St. Louis in? Glenn Rice average 30.3. Damn. Hey, he would, Joe, I'm telling you, he was cooking. Man, you know how hard that is to do in college, man, average them type of points in college? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:29 That's hard, bro. You got to be one of them special ones, though, huh? Man. Even if you're special, the average 30-Ocho? Because they zone you. Okay. You got to, now they'll allow you to play zone a little bit in the NBA. He was 30 and 10.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Damn. Oh, he was cooking. I'm telling him he would cook it. If anybody, if old as I am, bro, Glenn Rice cooked. But I think if I'm not mistaken, I think it took Ramil Robinson the putback. He ended up, they ended up,
Starting point is 01:18:03 I think they beat Seton Hall for the championship. But, hey, Mr. King, Michigan was cooking folks. Oh, there you go. Hey. I'm waiting on the hurt.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Man, they got chat, GPT, doing everything else, selling houses and all kind of stuff. It's bad. I'm waiting on. on that hurricane game tomorrow. Okay, what your dude got a lot of green up there, though? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yeah, what you would? Hey, Joe, I told you, Joe. I told you, I'm coming. Y'all were making fun of me, talking about, I'm picking mascots. I know what I'm doing, eh? I don't watch it much, but I know when it's time to win and compete,
Starting point is 01:18:54 I'm going to do my due diligence. Me and you, me and your next game gonna be a tell-tale, boy, because Arkansas play Arizona. When we put y'all out, you might well pack your bags on, boy. Hey, I told you, there's nothing personal, Joe. I'm not your up. I'm your brother.
Starting point is 01:19:13 You're a up. You're a brother. I'm not an op. Listen, I'm a brother from the cloth. Hold on. Oh, man, I got that man so far in my review mirror, man. Stop playing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:24 For real. Okay. Boy, if it weren't for me having BYU going so far, it's there ain't going to be a landslide for, real. You'll see. I ain't, you know what? I ain't gonna do too much time wrestling.
Starting point is 01:19:37 You hear me? Okay. I ain't gonna do too much of that. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Boy, I was on that, I was on that treadmill the day on their woodway. Getting, get my cardio right. I had that. Yeah, I was on that what you call them. I was on my bike today, too. I'm about to get me a ski urg. Oh, unc, unc. I had them, I had them, I had them 10 pounds in my hand while I was running.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Yeah. And you're throwing them things? Yeah, just shoulders. Getting them shoulders, right? Right. Right. So you know, you know, you know them shoulders to burn out real quick, then. That's why I'm training.
Starting point is 01:20:15 That's why I got my own little 24-7 going on with him. Okay. And you're going to need more than that. No, no, I'm good. No. Hey, wait, listen, but you're going to need about six, seven, eight months, now. Hey, you remember a big boy and Mike Tyson Punch out? Who's that big Bob boy?
Starting point is 01:20:30 Hey, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got something for you. I got some for you. I'm telling you, whatever you throw, whatever you thought, I'm going to see it. I'm going to catch it. I'm going to catch it for you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Whatever you throw, I'm going to catch you with my hand. Okay. I got you, brother. I'm just telling you, man. It's what I do, you know. Joe, you got to understand I have a history and background and combat sports, Joe.
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