Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Derrick Henry dominates, Sanders & Hunter NFL future, Chiefs costly injuries

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders react to Derrick Henry’s 2 TD vintage performance for the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday Night football against Josh Allen an...d the Buffalo Bills. Later, Unc, Ocho and Coach Prime breakdown expectations for Colorado Buffaloes QB Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter’s future in the NFL, Kansas City Chiefs key injuries and much more!03:55 - Coach Prime Joins the show09:00 - Derrick Henry big night for Ravens on SNF17:00 - Colorado routs UCF29:55 - NFL future for Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter41:32 - Chiefs beat Chargers, injury concerns50:42 - Tua situation in Miami, Shedeur Sanders good fit57:10 - Eagles beat Bucs, Baker vs Brady comments(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 terms, and responsible gaming resources. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. It's started already. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. You watched the Baltimore Ravens demolition of the Buffalo Bills behind Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry. They were sensational tonight and they won 35-10. Thank you for joining us. I am your favorite on Shannon Sharp. He is your favorite number 85. He's from
Starting point is 00:02:55 Liberty City. He's a Cincinnati Bingo Ring of Fame honoree. He's a pro bowler, an all-pro. The guy that says he can take the guy in your bottom right deep anytime he wanted to. Yeah, I like him. Yeah, take him to school. That is champ Ocho Cinco Johnson.
Starting point is 00:03:11 You can just call him Ocho. The guy in your bottom right, he needs no introduction. Arguably one of the great... One of the great... Ain't nobody arguing. Arguably. Ain't nobody arguing. Ain't nobody arguing. Giveably. Ain't nobody arguing. Ain't nobody arguing.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Give me a minute. The greatest DB, one of the five greatest defensive players, when you look at what he was able to do, he created the term shutdown corner. Everybody talk about these shutdowns now. No, he locked it down. That is the head coach of your Colorado Buffaloes, the legendary Coach Prime, Prime Time, Time, Neon Dion, whatever you want to call him.
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Starting point is 00:04:19 success. There you go. I ain't getting my turn. Everybody else got a turn. I want my turn. All right. Go tell me. We got two minutes
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Starting point is 00:05:16 And again, he's already here, guys. I wish he'd leave me alone, but he's not. Can I order what y'all been talking about on him can I order some of that cause I there's a lot of need
Starting point is 00:05:28 Brian here for what I heard I ain't get my turn everybody that's got their turn I ain't get my turn I was sincerely worried and cared and concerned
Starting point is 00:05:39 and all that man I just wanted to know you alright cause it sounded like it just sounded like you put a hamstring. He got bad cardio too, huh? Just a carburetor. Something wrong with it?
Starting point is 00:05:54 I barely made it home, Ocho. I barely made it home with my phone ringing. How you hear about it this quick? What, you supposed to be at practice? I don't ask for nothing. I'm coaching my own business. My phone blowing up. Call your boy. I said, what happened?
Starting point is 00:06:09 Lord Jesus. I just went to Brandon Paul. I got another boy. Dak Henry runs over the Buffalo Bills. I ain't about to get nobody up there, Henry. I want to recap
Starting point is 00:06:24 what happened. Oh, Lord, have mercy. Get out of here. Don't start sweating now. I want my turn. Everybody else got their turn. You're going to be donuts tonight. I'm getting my turn. Man.
Starting point is 00:06:42 All right. All right. We're going to get to that. Let's get to the game. Once we get to the game, we can move on. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's get to the game. Once we get to the game, we can move on. Okay. Behind Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson was 13 of 18.
Starting point is 00:06:54 156, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Derrick Henry ran the ball 24 carries, a buck 99. The Ravens, 34 runs. That's not a carry. 24 carries, a buck 99. The Ravens carried 34. That's a lot of carries. 24 carries, a buck 99. The Ravens carried the ball 34 times, 271. Two touchdowns after that 275 performance last week against the Dallas Cowboys
Starting point is 00:07:14 as they moved their record. What are they, 2-2 now? The Ravens are now 2-2. The Buffalo Bills fall to 3-1. This was the first play from scrimmage. Derrick Henry takes off, goes down the field. Guys, you remember? Ocho, you remember a couple of weeks ago? I said
Starting point is 00:07:29 they need to put Derrick Henry in the eye. Let him dot the eye. He's not an offset back. He's not a zone read back. He's a long strider. Four yards is not enough. Put him at eight. Toss it to him or hand it to him. Go ahead, Ty. What you want to say? I remember a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Alright. That's not a bad one. That's not a bad one. I'm sorry. I got mad all out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I had to.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Because I know if it was me or you, oh my Lord, I might as well put on the Bulls that I suit on. God, you know you would have killed me. You would have had to block me. Okay. You know you would have blocked my number.
Starting point is 00:08:12 You already know. Hey, you remember how much I used to call you at Jackson? I called you three or four times a week, so you would have had to block my number. At least. At least. Okay, I'm done. There it is. 209 total yards. A buck 99 on the ground he caught a touchdown pass the ravens look very very good tonight and all three phases of the game
Starting point is 00:08:33 offense defense special teams the special team didn't really the kicking game really didn't come into play because when they got the ball down there they got the ball into the end zone the baltimore ravens are starting to look like the Baltimore Ravens. We expected them to look like Lamar Jackson. Again, outstanding performance for, what was he, 13 of 18, 156, two touchdowns, no turnovers. Derrick Henry, 24 for 199. I wanted him to get that.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Man, he wanted that thing bad. He wanted that two bills. It's something about two bills and 199. Somebody got to get you the word. Like, I have a staff, man. They tell, like, last week, just yesterday, they came and told me, hey, Travis needs 10 more yards to go for another 100 for his, like, sixth consecutive game.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So we was getting ready to try to get him a quick slant or something to get him his 10 more yards because we're aware of that stuff. But the game, it played out differently, and I didn't want to be insulting to throw him a ball when we're up, you know, by margin. So the staff tells you that they should have gotten that one more yard, man. Yeah, well, he needed six. No, he needed four because he had 196.
Starting point is 00:09:41 He came in, he got two. He got upset because on the last possession, they tossed it to him. And he wanted a straight handoff. He wanted to hand it to him. He didn't want to toss because he know the defense is going to be flowing because if you know you need that many yards, guess who else know you need that many yards? The defense.
Starting point is 00:09:59 They don't. They don't. But all these big plays came from the toss switch, though. That's probably why they did that. All these big runs came from the toss sweeps. But I didn't like it because what they did is they had the fullback. They had the fullback in the offset. So I like him straight up in the eye.
Starting point is 00:10:14 But when you watch this game, Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from the Ravens? Listen, they look completely different than what they looked the previous, what, week one? Week one and two that being able to run the ball i kind of feel sorry for the receivers uh i feel sorry for zay a little bit i feel sorry for aguilar uh mark andrews and likely because they're not getting they're not getting the touches i think they should because the running game is so efficient
Starting point is 00:10:39 especially tonight um the play action worked a little bit better because the running game was so efficient derrick henry doing what derrick Henry does. We saw the Derrick Henry of old that we saw when he was with Tennessee somewhat in his prime. Obviously being able to hit his head off the goal post. And I'm not sure how old Derrick Henry is. But what he went? 97, 95? 87. And nobody can catch him. He had a great win. There you go. What?uh. Couldn't catch him. He had a great win. He had a great win.
Starting point is 00:11:05 There you go. There you go. What? What? What you mean? I didn't tell you. It's a great win. Chad, what was I saying?
Starting point is 00:11:18 No, you got to stop, bro. I'm dead. I'm serious. He had good cardio, huh? He had good cardio. Yeah, good cardio. But, I mean, listen. When you can run the ball like that, when you can be efficient like they were tonight,
Starting point is 00:11:30 it makes it so much easier, and you're going to win a lot of games. Now, there are going to come teams. There's going to come a time where teams are going to stack their goddamn box. They're going to have their safety down in there. You're not going to be able to do that. Now, will you be able to win with your arm, and will the receivers be able to get open so you can still win games later on down the stretch when you
Starting point is 00:11:48 play different teams where the personnel is a little bit more stout as opposed to Buffalo was tonight? What do you think, Brian? I like it. I like see when you talk like that, that's kind of assuming that Lamar
Starting point is 00:12:04 can't make the throws, but he can. Oh, he can make them, man. He can make them. We can't say that. Yeah, he can make the throws, all the throws. He's more definitive between the hash marks, but he can make all the throws. That's a myth.
Starting point is 00:12:17 But they're going to have to stretch the field because even when you play eight men in a box like they did tonight, they played eight men in the box tonight, you still can't stop the big fella. When that line is moving and they got this misdirection and all these jets and all this stuff going, man, it's hard to stop the big fella coming down here. Ain't nobody trying to line up to hit that.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Ain't nobody doing that. They're making business decisions. They're making business decisions. If you don't catch him behind the line of scrimmage and you allow him to get north and south and he ain't going east and west, man, I don't want no part of that. It's a problem. I don't know how Tennessee
Starting point is 00:12:52 let the big fella go, man. And I don't know how Dallas didn't move on the big fella, man, because he's still nice, man. For sure. Jerry said he couldn't afford him. I don't believe that. Jerry can afford anything he want. Jerry can afford anything he want. Jerry can afford anything he wants. Jerry said, well, Tennessee's getting rid of him.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Why do we want him? Tennessee didn't have no threat of a quarterback, so they know they're coming into the game. We know Will Levis can't beat us. We know Malik will. You know what? You know what, Shelly? I'm going to tell you what.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I think it's because he's high profile. I don't think it's because of the money. I think Derrick Henry is high profile. That's a good thing, ain't it? Yeah, to us it is. But when you get ready to pay Dak, yeah. And CD,
Starting point is 00:13:39 that wasn't a good thing at the time because he's another high profile guy that you got to feed. You already got receivers out there acting like they're starving. So it's hard. Chad, you know y'all ain't never satisfied. You need to stop. But in the question of prime, if he goes to Dallas, are you going to use him so you can get the benefit out of him
Starting point is 00:14:01 that you would need? Baltimore is going to use him. I know John Harbaugh said, well, we didn't bring him here to run 30 times, but what about 24 to 25? Did you bring him there to do that? Because he can give you these. I'm not saying he can give you 199,
Starting point is 00:14:16 but he can give you well over 100 if you give him 20 to 25 carries. Well, week one, they did. That's why the criticism came. Week one, they did not use him. Then they went to Dallas and theyallas and they said hey man we ain't gonna mess this up hey man feed the big fella and he hunted he ate he ate that weak man he still has it he still got passion for the game i love the big fella in every aspect tonight's loss snapped the nfl record 43 game streak in which the bills had not suffered a loss by more than six points in the regular season. So they had
Starting point is 00:14:45 gone almost three seasons without losing a game by more than six points in the regular season. And the Baltimore Ravens beat them by 25. Through four games, Derrick Henry has 480 yards rushing, five touchdowns, and another receiving score. With he and Lamar dominating
Starting point is 00:15:02 a run-heavy offense, the Ravens are going to be tough. Because here's the thing. When you can run the ball like they can run at times, guess what happens? When you stick that ball in Henry's belly and he rolls over and he doesn't have it, lanes like 95 and ain't nothing on him. The throwing lanes get so wide because everybody is so afraid. Those linebackers are going to be,
Starting point is 00:15:24 because I don't want him to get ahead of Steen. If he get ahead of Steen, if I hit him at seven, he's going to fall to 10. If he gets to 10, he's going to 15, 20. When the running back bigger than the linebacker is a problem. Because DBs know that. We know that. Going into the meeting and the presentation and they're giving the scouting report and the game plan and you sit up
Starting point is 00:15:46 there, you look at it, son. He's like, hey, man, 6-3, 2-4, hey, man, come on, man. Then you just, immediately, I used to go visit the linebackers. Look at, man, what y'all want to do this week? Y'all want me to wear a neck roll or y'all want me to cover? What y'all want to do? Because look at my shoulder. My shoulder's made for suits.
Starting point is 00:16:01 They ain't made to be hitting Barry Henry. Hey, I got to let him pass the jump on his back time i can't hey ain't no way i'm talking about you hey hit him in his five and do what get a concussion yeah that's what the guy did tonight you see what he did he ain't come back in the game okay time let's talk about colorado colorado yesterday beat ucf-21. The Buffaloes, your team with 14-point underdogs, improved to 4-1, 2-0 in the Big 12. And Travis Hunter caught a touchdown. He intercepted a pass in the same game for the second time in three weeks.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And this is the fourth time in his three-year college career that he's done that. He struck the Heisman pose after he picked off K.J. Jefferson with a diving interception in the third quarter. I said yesterday, and I text you this, that I thought this was your most complete ball game in your tenure. You look at the way you guys ran it. You look at the way you guys stopped the run when you needed to stop it.
Starting point is 00:16:57 After y'all done built up that big lead, they started to get some cheap stuff. You look at the way you protected a quarterback. You look at the way you hunted the quarterback. Your special teams got two good field goals from your kicker. This was a complete game. When you were looking at the week of practice, you're going to break a practice. You're going into this game.
Starting point is 00:17:12 What made you feel so comfortable? Because I heard you after the game to say, how much we were supposed to beat him by 10. What made you feel so confident that you guys were ready to play? Adversity. You got to understand we respond to adversity we got a bunch of former pros that are coaching doing a great job of maturing these young men but it was a storm coming to florida or chad you know there's a storm coming so we had to
Starting point is 00:17:36 leave on wednesday to get to florida to beat the storm you know what that does that brings us together closer we in a hotel for a few days none but team we the walkthroughs the practices that we we went out and practiced thank god ucf allowed us their indoor facility we utilized that our guys worked their butt off studied a ton of film met with the coaches watching film walkthroughs it was just straight football and straight focus. And that was the difference. Us secluding ourselves and getting away from friends, family, and loved ones and just being locked in, man. That was the difference.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Ty, when you guys played North Dakota State, I said after the game, I said, I'm disappointed because, and I said, you never accept anything in a win. You wouldn't have a loss. Coach Saban said yesterday, winning when playing poorly is a kiss of death. You then said after the game, I didn't know that you had said this at the time. You said, guys, we can't be happy with just winning. We've got to dominate.
Starting point is 00:18:40 We've got to take the field expecting to dominate. It's too many people happy that we just won the game. Can you explain to those that's at home listening and watching what you mean by not being just happy winning, but expecting to dominate. As a coach, you know what you have, you know, what positions you're a little weary of, you know, what positions you're very strong in, you know who are the dominant players on your team.
Starting point is 00:19:03 And when you go out and you perform and you may lose the defensive battle as well as special teams, but you win offense and you score more points, you can't be happy. You're excited that you won. You're happy that you won, but you're not satisfied with the true victory because you know it could have went the other way with a bounce of this ball or bad pass or fumble or whatever. But when you excel on all three levels levels and that's what we did yesterday offensively defense as well
Starting point is 00:19:30 as special teams we excelled at all three levels for our first time in my tenure for the first time in a long time even dating back to Jackson that we were truly dominant at all three levels man and I'm proud of the young man I really am because it was a valiant effort to do so. You know what? I got a question. I'm glad you just said that. One of the things you just said, as a coach, understanding your strengths
Starting point is 00:19:51 and understanding your weaknesses, you know, and wanting everybody to come together. But how do you navigate that as a coach when you're playing against an opponent? I'm not going to talk about UCF, you know, in this instance. But when you go into games and understanding your strengths and the weaknesses of this instance, but when you go into games and understanding your
Starting point is 00:20:06 strengths and weaknesses of your players, how do you hide and navigate the weak parts of what you may have going on and hide them in game to where you can still be efficient in all three cases? You focus. I mean, we had been great versus the run. UCF was a running team. You know, we're going to make this game plan heavy defensively versus the run. UCF was a running team. You know we're going to make this game playing heavy defensively versus the run.
Starting point is 00:20:27 What does that mean? We got to get on these DBs all week long because they're going to have to play fast. They're going to be one-on-one quite a bit, man-to-man, and guess what? It's going to be at least two to three balls that you're going to have to break up. You're going to have to be there.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Travis, I need you to be Travis. You know, I need you to be you. I need you to do that. I just need you to make a play. I don't need you to win, but I need you to do that. I just need you to make a play. You, I don't need you to win, but I need you to break even. All right. I don't need you to win. I need you to break even. You two right here, I need you to be dominant. You really be truthful and honest about what you have and their abilities and you give them an attainable goal that they can secure. And that's what they did. They went out there and did that.
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Starting point is 00:23:01 Please do. I look at both of your offense and defensive line because you know that's the meat and potatoes of any team. Yeah, you can have all the fancy bells and whistles, but you need those pickup trucks and dump trucks. And that's what you did yesterday. Your offensive line, they opened up the holes, gave running lanes, and they did a great job of protecting Shador. I think he's only sacked twice.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Defensive line, they did a great job of stopping the run. They got after the quarterback i think you guys sacked him like six or seven times going into that game and you know i know sap is on your staff and he's preaching defense he want those guys to hunt guys we gotta hunt i know he's telling them they gotta hunt right did you feel comfortable did you know like damn ucf they want to run the football we've kind of been a little little lax at stopping the run but i feel comfortable going into the game today that we can do it. Yeah, we did.
Starting point is 00:24:07 We did. Coach Rob Livingston is doing a great job, as well as Pat Sherman, both of my coordinators. They're doing a wonderful job of game planning and getting us prepared. And I just add what I certainly, they cannot beat us at this. We cannot surrender that. We cannot
Starting point is 00:24:23 do this. Those are my additives that I make sure that we can't do, especially navigating through the game and understanding what's at hand during the game and situational football. Like a situation like going down before the half. We're
Starting point is 00:24:39 getting ready to take a shot. It's no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's get it. Tim O'Yar's might have got this. Tim O'Yar's might have got this. Let's dial up something. Tim O'Yar's got this. Tim O'Yar's got this. Let's dial up something. Tim O'Yar's, give me that. Let's get out of bounds. We got eight seconds. We need to do this within five to four seconds.
Starting point is 00:24:51 We need three seconds on the clock. We good. We got a timeout left. I'm going to use that. Boom. Man, Pat called a perfect play. We get out of bounds, hit the back on the shallow, going across the field.
Starting point is 00:25:00 He gets out of bounds. Mata hits it. Now we go ahead and momentum because they're about to get the ball to start the second half because we had the ball open it up. So there's a lot of situational things that coincide with what you're trying to do and what you're trying to accomplish as well. But the coordinators came up with wonderful game plans and we ran the ball effectively. Anytime
Starting point is 00:25:17 you just run the ball effectively and take some heat off too, it's going to be a problem because now it gets like 7-on-7 and when you give him that opportunity, Chad, you've seen it. When you give him that opportunity to sit back there and settle his feet, it's going to be a problem. But he makes him throw yesterday time on the move. I watched him throw that ball to Trav.
Starting point is 00:25:35 He's rolling to his left, and he has to throw it over. He has a guy in between him and Trav. So he has to put enough heat on it, but he has to put enough touch to get it up and down. The guy in front of him and he has the safety closing in on him. When you watch him, look, he grew up in your house,
Starting point is 00:25:53 you know what you got. But at any point in time, do you get impressed by seeing what he's doing? No, because my expectations are out of the room. I get mad. You know, I get mad at times.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Hey, dog, what's wrong with you, man? You know, like that happens and we have these intense conversations. But sometimes I have to dial back because I'm looking at it from this point of view and I'm hearing the call goes in. I don't know if this happens or that happens. And we don't know. But he knows. Right. right you know he could he could redial it and say this is what was supposed to happen but this didn't happen this is why this happened like he these quarterbacks he recant everything and he could tell you everything that
Starting point is 00:26:36 he saw because that's the first thing i asked what did you see what did you see and uh he and pat are wonderful together i mean you got to hear the chemistry going in. See, now it's a luxury because you got a quarterback that can see the field. And then the coach gets to talk to him until 15 seconds is left on the play clock. So that's almost like stealing, man, because now he's telling them, OK, they may come weak side. Oh, look at the front side of this. And Shador is already there. He's already right there. And sometimes, you know, he'll check off something.
Starting point is 00:27:04 We're like, oh, my God, he should have stuck with the play oh oh good job good job sometimes because he can see the game he can see the game tremendously well yeah speaking speaking of speaking of seeing the game uncle and i were arguing last night we were talking obviously watching watching travis hunter and what he's doing and how special he is. I'm talking about special. There haven't been many two-way collegiate players that can do what he's doing at such an early age and be efficient on both sides of the ball
Starting point is 00:27:34 at that level. I talked with Unk yesterday. I'm sitting here arguing with him. I'm telling you, Unk, I say, I believe Travis is a better receiver as opposed to DB. Now we have you here, so I just want you to DB. Now we have you here. So I just want you to. I ain't telling you nothing.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I ain't telling you nothing. I'm treating you like a pro scout. You're going to have to find out on your own. I don't have to find out because I've been watching. I've been watching myself. I know the answer. I know the answer. I know the answer.
Starting point is 00:27:58 No, no. What you're saying, see, this is what you're really saying. You've seen him with more opportunities at receiver that's why you feel that way if you see him on a day-to-day basis pat them feet and get down there and get that i mean and i know him like a book yeah right before that play if somebody dial it back before the play he made i say look man focus focus focus because they're getting ready to come at you i need you to focus and stay low and do what you do. Right. That's what I said to him on the sideline because I know him
Starting point is 00:28:29 and I know the flow of the game. And I know when a coordinator thinks he's tired up there, they may try to take a shot. They try to catch him sleeping or slipping. And he ain't getting ready to do that. That's just who he is. But I know the answer to that for sure. This is my problem.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Every week we got a ton of scouts come to practice and they ask me that question. What do y'all think he is? I say, I'll tell you what. If you put him on defense and don't let him play offense in the pros, you're going to look crazy because you're not moving the ball down the field and your best receiver is over there on the defensive side of the ball. And then the fans go.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Right. The fans going to start booing and they going to start saying, put Travis here. Now, if you put it vice versa, okay, now he's on offense and he's lighting it up, then your cornerback is getting killed, but you got him over there sitting on the bench and your best corner is sitting over there waiting for the offense to get
Starting point is 00:29:13 a turn and you get murdered. You're going to look like a fool as a head coach. So you got to allow him to be who he is. I'm thankful that God blessed me with him and God gave me a career where I could see the game from both sides and I could understand that no this is not an anomaly this is who this kid is yeah I gotta let him be him imagine if I was selfish and just was traditional and just played him on one
Starting point is 00:29:35 side of the ball we wouldn't see half of the plays that we've been blessed to see as a collegiate football player I would have robbed him of that greatness that he has, that he's displayed for us. Thank God that he came. He chose us. And he gave us a tremendous gift. You have a very unique perspective because when you went to Dallas, I don't know who the number two got hurt.
Starting point is 00:30:03 You were the full-time corner, but they had a package of plays for you. And they would run you on the reverse. They would throw the smoke screen to you. They put you down the field. You catch the post. You catch the over. So you have a very unique perspective of what it's like. Well, Shaq, it was a period of time that I was playing
Starting point is 00:30:19 a 100-9, 120-3 game. It was a period of games that I was playing that. So I understand the repetitions, but you know, guys like us, like Chad, you ain't get tired. That's the last thing we got playing this game. How you gonna get tired playing a childish game called football? Did we ever get tired in the hood
Starting point is 00:30:36 when we were growing up playing? Was there any timeouts when we grew up playing streetball? We used to be fucking at the bus stop. The only time we stopped is when you got to pause for a car to go by. Thank you. That's the only time you stopped.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I was always structured. I organized my bus stop to go play against other bus stops. Now, we going to school dead funky, but we won. But we won. So bad. So you don't get tired doing what you gifted and blessed to do man the kid don't tire
Starting point is 00:31:09 now we give him he has Sundays off Mondays and Tuesdays off so he starts working on Wednesdays so he can get his rest and if anybody got a problem with it I say do what he does I give you the days off I was going to ask you about that but how you say you give him Sunday, Monday and Tuesday off give his body a chance to recover
Starting point is 00:31:24 our normal off days are Mondays we're normally off on Mondays I feel bad that you say you give him Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday off. Give his body a chance to recover. Our normal off days are Mondays. We're normally off on Mondays. We do a 70%. If you played 60% of the snaps during the game on Saturday, you get Sundays off. That's my chance. That's my opportunity to get these other guys, to get them total focus from the staff,
Starting point is 00:31:43 to get them ready to play just in case somebody sustained an injury. But no, he gets a couple days off, then the third on that Tuesday, and he's ready to go in. How tall is Travis? Because standing next to him, he's taller than people think. People think he's... Travis is taller than me. Travis is about 6'2".
Starting point is 00:31:58 And he long. Jump out the gym. Jump out the gym. Like, if you see out the gym. Jump out the gym. Like, if you see him play basketball, jump out the gym. Like, all great corners are real lean, down low, got long limbs, and jump out the gym. I ain't never seen a great corner that can't jump out the gym. I ain't never seen it in my life.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I don't know, Tommy, you had ups like that, though. Who? I dunked the medicine ball. What? What? I didn't study medicine ball. What? What? I didn't study either. Think about that. Think about how high you got to get a medicine ball.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Oh, nobody wait. But it's a medicine ball. Let me ask you this, Ty. A lot of people are asking. Obviously, you want your son to go to a great situation. That's first and foremost. Yeah, you want him to go high. You think? You think? You want to go to a great situation. That's first and foremost. Yeah, you want him to go high. You think?
Starting point is 00:32:46 You think? You want him to go to a great... Knowing how you think, yes. High, you want him to go high, but sometimes going high means going to a bad situation. What about... Because everybody's like, well, will Coach Prime pull an Eli? Have you thought that far? You just go, hey, son, just
Starting point is 00:33:04 do what you're supposed to do. Everything's going to take care of itself, and we're going to after the season, we'll sit down and discuss what the next step is. Eli, a LeVar Ball, a LeBron, I'm going to put in a Cesar, Cesar, the boxers,
Starting point is 00:33:22 I'm going to put it all up. Yeah. All up. No, honestly honestly we've talked about it extensively I talk to most of the teams because they practice every day but I want what's best for him but I want him to be happy as well so you know you really don't get to dictate where your son gets to go because there's a draft
Starting point is 00:33:39 process but you know us you know how we are we know who ain't trying to win in the NFL you know that you know us. You know how we are. We know who ain't trying to win in the NFL. You know that. You know who's consistently in the basement year after year after year. You don't want that situation for your kids or your family members. Nobody. None of them.
Starting point is 00:33:56 We know what time it is. But you got to understand, Shador is suited for adversity. All our life, we've been on adversity. All our life we've been on adversity. All our life we've been hated and mistreated and talked about and lied on and just naysay. All our life
Starting point is 00:34:11 he ain't never had the red carpet rolled out to him. I'm not that kind of father. You know, he ain't got no silver spoon. He had a wooden spoon, the kind we used to put on the wall. He had one of these. Yeah, he said in an interview last week, he said, my dad ain't give me no trust fund. We don't work like that.
Starting point is 00:34:29 He had to earn everything he had. So he's suited to go to a team that's been up on adversity because that's what he's done all his life. He's been in adverse situations. I heard Mel Kiper say that cover two, they need to do away with the cover two because this is why quarterbacks are struggling. This is why teams are struggling so early in the season.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Man, what's your take on that time? Jack, I can tell you this. Don't they have two beaters on them? Yes. Okay. Why don't you just call a two beater? Why you got to get rid of the cover two? You can get them out there too. You can run them out there too as well.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Run them out of it. You can run them out that two. First of all, Jake, if they had a couple two on you and you playing tight end, you're going to tear that seam up. That linebacker ain't going to keep up with you on that seam. If he's running with you, we're going to put it back shoulder. Then what you going to do? You're going to go to work. And if they in that two, hell, all you got to do,
Starting point is 00:35:20 if you got some dogs on there, condense some goddamn splits. We corner out their ass to death. Or we go two yards outside the number condense some goddamn spits, we corner out their ass to death, or we go two yards outside the number, and we got them run that dig, dig their ass to death. Let me tell you, Cover 2. Cover 2, first of all, Chad loved Cover 2. You know why? Because he towed a corner up, and now he's one-on-one with a safety
Starting point is 00:35:36 that's not used to playing in space. So that was a murder. Honestly, I've always told coordinators and the pros, guys, if you're going to play Cover two, just put the safeties up front. Put the corners in the back. Because you want the corners, which are now the safeties, to come up and make the tackles.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Then you want those guys to defend the pass. But now you're dealing with a guy back there on the hash that ain't used to space. And Chad can't wait to get off that gym and see that joke and face him up. Man, please. It's all right. That's my cover two beat. I used to tell TD, Man, please. It's all right. That's my cover to be nice to tell TD.
Starting point is 00:36:07 TD, run him out of cover too. That's your job. Run him out of cover too. Make him drop. You're not finna stop us with this light box. You're gonna have to drop that. Play action don't kill it too though. Play action don't kill it too
Starting point is 00:36:18 because when you got a running game, he has to, you know, he has to take that fake. He has to stay still. So he won't let you get up. He going to let you get up to see him. He ain't got no choice. Time, let's look at your Colorado Buffalo schedule.
Starting point is 00:36:30 You off this week. You got K-State at home. Man, I don't want to talk about Colorado. I want to talk about you. Hey, Brian. Hey, Brian. Brian, ask him who Michelle is. I ain't goingna do that.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I don't bring nobody else into this. I just want to bring my boy into this. You said you wanted your boy. Yeah, just the sound effects. That's what I'm on. The sound effects. That was a fan. That was a fan going down.
Starting point is 00:37:03 He take off his shirt. He look like Superman, black Superman, black hero, black soldier boy, everything. He look like all that. I'm just trying to wonder that. Like Chad say, have you not been doing cardio? Because I know you. Yeah, I do cardio bad.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Time. I thought we had this conversation. Okay. Did you hear Gilly? Did you hear Gilly? I did not. That was good. we had this conversation okay just ask me did you hit Gilly did you hit Gilly I did not that was good
Starting point is 00:37:29 okay Gilly's was a good one Gilly had one of the best reenactments of Gilly yeah okay we stopped cause I could see you nah
Starting point is 00:37:40 you ain't gonna stop you ain't gonna stop you gonna stop for like 10 minutes you know if you get you know if you get sensitive you gonna get funny you know it's minutes. You know if you get sensitive, you're going to get funny. You know it's going to get funnier. I'm just letting you know. If I see your face tighten up a little bit, I'm going to keep going.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I can't get serious with you. We don't get serious. If it was me, oh my goodness. It would have been over. You already know. It would have been over for you. You ought to have been sitting in the parking lot waiting for me to get to work. I definitely would have done a couple shows from Boulder.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Definitely. And you would have walked up and said, man, let's go and get this over with. Because you know what it's going to be. Let's go and get this over with. Let's go to your office. Me and you ain't nobody going to be there. Let's go and get it over with. That's what I'm bad.
Starting point is 00:38:21 We had our talk. We got it over with. And I'm proud of you. You're drinking a lot of water. You got thirsty real quick. You got real thirsty real quick. I'm drinking my tea to keep my voice right. Did your coffee
Starting point is 00:38:34 get ready? I thought you were Rick Ross in that one minute. Man, y'all see what I go through, man. This is why I don't call him. I can't call this man because this is what happens. Chad, what you say when he first called you? Or did you call him? What you say?
Starting point is 00:38:55 I texted right away. I called. But everything good. I just wanted to make sure. But I waited a little bit because I know he was probably getting a lot of calls. So I was kind of nervous. So based on what happened, I'm like, well, damn, are we still going to be able to do
Starting point is 00:39:07 nightcap? So I waited about an hour or two. I checked and I'm like, hey, everything good? He said, yeah, I'm good. I just took one of them diamonds a little too early. Hey, once he made somewhat like a joke about it, I knew everything.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I'm proud of him. I'm proud of him because he owned it. I'm proud of him because he owned it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he could have tried to lie, play it off, and then all the fools talking about you staged it. Like, come on, dog. Ain't nobody going to do that.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Like, what's wrong with y'all? Ain't nobody going to stage that. He can't stage it. He don't even know how to work the goddamn phone. The first time on IG Live, that's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, but listen, if you're gonna stage it, at least you're gonna have
Starting point is 00:39:51 a highlight show. That wasn't a highlight. That wasn't a highlight show at all. That was a low light. Like, if you're gonna stage it, it's gonna be some of my best work. What's my name? Too Sweet. Who the baddies? Show them. You know, if I'm on stage, it's going to be sound effect.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I'm going to have roars. I'm going to have everything jumping off. Everything. Smoke. I'm coming out to smoke like I did in Atlanta. If I'm on stage, it's going to be. Oh, wait. I'm going to come out.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I'm coming out there like dancing If I'm going to stage, I was mad about that I was mad about my boy stage that and that carburetor blew up Alright, that's it I got mine, I'm done with it now I'm done with it now, let's it That's it I got mine I'm done with it now I'm done with it now Let's go
Starting point is 00:40:45 Let's go Hold on Go ahead Y'all keep going I'm praying the fan is not hot You better go Let somebody in What'd you say?
Starting point is 00:40:54 You say you gotta Turn the fan on or something Oh, I thought They been letting somebody in Y'all off this week, huh? Yeah, we off this week I'ma come out Y'all got K-State next week Yes, Lord I'ma come up there I'ma come You ain't coming up. I'm gonna come out. Y'all got K State next week.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I'm gonna come up there. I'm gonna come. Listen, you only time you come is I'm in Miami. It ain't no coming. You already home. This is the problem. You gotta understand. I got 37, 11 jobs.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I got 37, 11 jobs. You should be proud of me now. I done came a long way. I am proud of you. I done came a long way. You kept them. Yes, you came a long way. I kept them. I'm proud of you. Yeah. Because you have stability. Now you kept them. Yes, you came a long way. I'm proud of you.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah. Because you have stability. Now you're grounded. I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't got no choice but to be grounded. Okay, guys. The Chiefs beat the Chargers 17-10.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Rasheed Rice was carted off the field after colliding with Patrick Mahomes after interception. They fear an ACL tear. Now, there probably would be without Rasheed Rice. Hollywood Brown is out possibly for the season. Isaiah Pacheco went down. What happened to Hollywood? He'll be back in two weeks.
Starting point is 00:41:53 No. They put him on IR. They say they're looking at the season. I just said two weeks with four fingers. It can't count. Don't worry about it. I told you! He said two weeks! He said two weeks! bad. Don't worry about it. I told you. He said two weeks. He didn't make it two weeks. Yeah, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Don't worry about it. I don't know. Y'all got to be drinking on the show. Go ahead. When he was talking about time, that they was going to play a Sunday game, a Thursday game. So that's what he was trying to get. He was going to miss four games in two weeks.
Starting point is 00:42:23 That's what he was trying to get at. You know, you have to understand. I tell you what, that joker know how to run a final. He know how to run a final. That's his route. That's his route. That's his route. Ty, when we were discussing, everybody was talking about a three-peat.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And I say the reason why it's so hard, they say, well, who do you think the biggest competitor that's standing in their way? I say the Chiefs. I say injuries. Because you play longer every year. Your offseason is shorter every year. And think about it. They're down Rasheed Rice, who's their best receiver.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Hollywood Brown, who they brought in to help stretch the field. They drafted worthy. Isaiah Pacheco, the running back, he's gone now. So, I mean, that's three guys that you're relying on. It's tough it's tough it's tough because it's hard to maintain that passion year after year after year i know people listening and watching and saying no it ain't you get paid to do that yeah but you lose players you lose key players that may have i don't give a damn it might have been an l5 that might have been that dog that kept those special teams going so you lose players and it's just hard to keep that passion. Then everybody in
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Starting point is 00:45:34 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. got to get somebody. There's a bunch of receivers out there, though. There's a bunch of receivers. You like DeHop? You like a trade for DeHop? Ooh! DeHop right there? Yeah, I mean, he could be available. What is he still doing right there? He could be available. He and Tennessee are sick of Will Levis. That's what
Starting point is 00:46:15 he's doing. Oh, yeah. Ain't no balls coming at you. Ain't no balls coming at you. See, I can't say, I keep forgetting them here because I can't talk like head because I can't talk like that. I can't talk like that because, you know, my son might be drafted. You talking
Starting point is 00:46:31 like me and you talking on the phone. That's right. I forget. I forget. Hey, listen. Devontae Adams to the Chiefs. They're not going to trade him within the division. You forget that. Hold on. Amari Cooper. Listen. Trading players into the division is what everybody does now. They're not going to trade him within the division. You forget that. Hold on. Amari Cooper. Listen,
Starting point is 00:46:47 trading players into the division is what everybody does now. You're out your mind. Amari Cooper to the Chiefs? That might be a possibility because, you know, he probably won't out because they've been killing him. He's the last thing I know
Starting point is 00:47:00 going out of business. Right now, ain't nobody giving up until like week eight and they start positioning themselves for the draft. Ain't nobody giving up till like week eight and they start positioning themselves for the draft. Ain't nobody giving up this early. Listen, Andy Reid
Starting point is 00:47:09 come a calling. You never know. It's a lot of receivers out there that can play some ball, man. They got an opportunity. I'm telling you. I guarantee you they got some cats on the practice squad
Starting point is 00:47:19 that can get it in. I mean, we talk about make a difference right now, though. Yeah, it's some cats on that practice squad that can make a though. Yeah. Patrick Mahomes was 19-29, 245, a touchdown, one interception. He was sacked three times.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Kareem Hunt, who they picked up off the street. Remember, he was there in the beginning. I think he was offensive rookie of the year. His rookie season. He was there about six years. No, he was there a couple of years. Remember, he got that video surface, and they ended up releasing him, and he went to Cleveland. But they ran the ball pretty well.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And if you notice, the Chiefs are putting a lot of emphasis on running the football. Another 25, what, 26 carries, 101 yards, one touchdown, long of 13, Kareem Hunt, 14 of 69. Sabaji and P-Rod was five of 14. But hey, they got it done. They got it done. It was ugly, but they got it done.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And they've been winning games like this. Like I said, Patrick is not as sharp as we're used to seeing him. There's a lot of balls sailing on him. There's a lot of balls getting away from him that he would normally complete. Okay, okay. We ain't gonna do that. Name the receivers. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Don't look. That's what I'm trying to say. Kelsey had his best game of the season this year. They drafted Worthy, but Worthy is gonna have to learn how to run the route. Right now, he's just a seed guy. What's the guy they got from Tampa Watson
Starting point is 00:48:49 that's about it Sky Moore mainly plays special teams I'm not saying I really know these guys I really don't watch the pro game like I used to when I was employed by the NFL but I don't think they they have those I know Ocho's out there, man,
Starting point is 00:49:05 that's going to cause double coverage and you're going to have to deal with him. Yeah, like that's going to be a problem. So you're going to tighten up on some things because they could take some things away and I'm pretty sure they doubled Kelsey on passing down. They be foolish not to. Clearly, they didn't do a good enough job
Starting point is 00:49:20 of doubling the day because he had his best day. I think the thing is, when we look at Patrick Mahomes, you take away one of the best offensive weapons in the history and tyreek hill and he wins back-to-back superbowls back-to-back superbowl mvps and a regular season mvp so you know how that is when you get you raise the bar so this is what he's compared to he's compared to what he's done in his first six seasons as a starter. That's the comparison. Not anybody else. I don't care how great somebody plays in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:49:50 They don't get compared to Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes get compared to the previous three, four years of Patrick Mahomes. Andy Reid, let's understand the connectivity. Right. Andy Reid is arguably the best in the business. Yeah, for sure. The consistency over his tenure of not only being a head coach of Dern.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I think he was a tight end coach of Green Bay. You remember he was at Green Bay? Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, man. Everywhere he goes, he warrants success. He is who he is. You know what? The funny thing about it,
Starting point is 00:50:21 when we talk about Patrick Holmes and his greatness and him being compared to how he was in previous years. The fact that Tyreek left is a testament to how good and how great Patrick Mahomes is. So even with the lack of having an ultimate player that can hit his head off the goalposts like Tyreek and still winning two Super Bowls after that, bringing Xavier Worthy in this year. And as bad as the Chiefs look right now, even though they're winning, they look just like this last year. That defense is outstanding,
Starting point is 00:50:48 though. They look just like this last year. That defense is outstanding. I got a good one for both of y'all. I'm glad you said it, Ocho. You talk about Tyreek Hill, that made me think about Miami in the Tua situation. I'm being a father now, not a coach.
Starting point is 00:51:04 So that's a situation looming in miami right now right that okay two out for what two two more weeks after this at least three months he got to buy week two so they're about three months he got to buy week two let's say three more weeks so what would that record possibly look like in three weeks and if he uh wants another concussion that's that's got to be all she wrote that we're praying that don't happen. It's got to be. Even right now, we're like, I don't know. What should he do?
Starting point is 00:51:40 What should the Miami Dolphins do? They paid a lot of money because they just re-signed Tyreek for $30 million. They just gave Waddle, they gave him $28 million. But they just played two and the ink ain't even dry yet. Yeah, but what he's looking at if he gets
Starting point is 00:51:58 another concussion. You know, follow me. What I'm saying is that if he sustains another concussion or he's done, period. What do you do? That's what I'm saying is that if he sustains another concussion or or he's done period what do you do that's what I'm saying he said do you have a fire cell do you say look we're not going to
Starting point is 00:52:11 no you don't have no fire cell would you train one of the guys no no I'm looking at it I told you I started this off by saying I'm looking at his father not the coach oh you're talking about Tua. Tua, and he's...
Starting point is 00:52:30 What do you do business-wise if you're the Dolphins? Do you go into the draft and take a quarterback, which is what I'm saying, or do you say, Tua, let's check this out, let's see what we're going to do. Is his health more important than that? Hold on. I think in these
Starting point is 00:52:45 contracts, he probably he's probably insured on that contract for maybe not the full value, but probably 70-75% for injury. That would be an injury. So he would probably get a settlement. I would
Starting point is 00:53:02 say, Ochoa, at the time, what, $100, $150 million? Mm-hmm. Well, the thing about we don't know what the true value of these contracts are. You know how this stuff is. This is great, because this is what this also leads to. Let's
Starting point is 00:53:18 say because of the toy injury and things don't work out, and it leaves an open door, and they make a business decision and go into the draft and boom, it's your door to the dolphins. Look at that. See how God works? So you just got that revelation. See how God works?
Starting point is 00:53:32 That's why he brought it up. And you see how God works? He think he just thought of it. Don't tell him. Hold on. Stay with me now. God just brought that to me. I saw what you were putting down. I just picked it up. That's all.
Starting point is 00:53:53 There you go. That's where I'm at. Hey, he got his grading system with stars and cookies. Time. Come on. Wait a little while. You know, it take a while. Are you going to leave that dog alone? That dog going to run that five, that Look, it's time. Come on, break. Stay with him a little while. You know, it take him a while. Nah. You're going to leave that dog alone. That dog going to run that five, that eight, that skinny, that three.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Oh, he's trying to beat out you all day. He only want to run. He only want to run the speed out. He want to run the smoke right. He want to run the smoke right so he can catch it and get his head around. Anything across the middle, too. No, you ain't going to go across the middle. No, no, he wasn't doing that. He run that bang eight. He run that bang eight. He'll keep head around. Anything across the middle, too, man. No, you ain't going to go across the middle. No, no, he wasn't doing nothing.
Starting point is 00:54:26 He run that bang eight. He run that bang eight. He'll keep his skin in. Anything across the middle. He keep his skin in. He wasn't too keen on that slant. He wasn't too keen on that over. No, he'll run a slant on cover, too, because he know that safe and high.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Oh, yeah, yeah. Listen, anything in man-to-man. Don't do me like that, man. You know? Don't do me like that. That's easy. It depends on who the man was, though. It depends on who the man was. Hey, time. man to man. Don't do me like that, man. You know? Don't do me like that. That's easy. It depends on who the man was, though. It depends on who the man was.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Hey, time. I was talking. Do you see all these guys running these three-step slant routes? Can you imagine if somebody ran a three-step slant back in the 90s and you got Singletary, you got Offerdahl, you got all those thumper? Man, they'd have put their helmet right here. And they'd have never called another right here. And they'd have never called another one.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Hey, Brian, you know it's another issue I'm watching today? A lot of players, a lot of receivers, a lot of receivers are struggling with getting separation. And just regular man to man. Just regular man. The art of actually being able to run routes and actually get open, creating separation, is
Starting point is 00:55:24 gone. They're relying on the scheme and the officer coordinator to get their ass open. We can't touch y'all no more, so I don't even know how. I don't know how because we can't touch you past five and pretty much four, really.
Starting point is 00:55:39 So I don't know how. And a lot of cats are motoring. They ain't hard jamming no more. You know when we stood up there and got the things on. They're motoring out of there. They're getting up out of there. They open the door. They open the gate. If you open the door, flies come in your house.
Starting point is 00:55:53 I don't know why corners do that. That's right. Time, can you explain to us, because you the greatest to do it. Why would you be impressed coverage and open the gate? If you're going to open the gate, just stay off. Because you're scared. And what you fear in life
Starting point is 00:56:11 is always going to happen. You're scared. And he knows you're scared from the way you come up there. He knows if you're scared or not. He knows if you... First of all, I don't know why a lot of guys make shade inside. He wants you there. A shade outside. He knows if you, first of all, I don't know why a lot of guys may shade inside. He wants you there. A shade outside. He wants you
Starting point is 00:56:28 there. Where he don't want you is head up where you got to hit that shoulder, that shoulder. He wants you shaded. I don't know why they even do that. You know the worst thing I hate? Belly. Yeah. Belly. You already disbanded. Because I ain't never seen anybody make a play with their back to the sideline. How many
Starting point is 00:56:44 plays are made in a football game with your back to the sideline? None. Lord help me. And he wants that. Oh, you want to see somebody bailing. You got the whole rock tree, whatever you want. Patrick Mahomes has a record of 13 and 12 in games in which the Chiefs have trailed by 10 points or more. The only quarterback with a winning record in such situations since 1950
Starting point is 00:57:06 with a minimum of 10 starts. For context, Tom Brady is 36-61 in games in which he's trailed by 10 plus or more points. That's a lot of games. I mean, for Mahomes to be above 500 when he's been behind by 10 or more points and to be able to pull it off just as a testament to just how great he is. Now, if you imagine
Starting point is 00:57:31 not only great how great his decision making is when he's down by 10 as well. Because most of the time most quarterbacks fold. Your decision making is like a launcher. That's why I'm saying Brett. Brett is a gunslinger.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I wonder what Brett is on that list because I know he had some tremendous comebacks as well. The Bucs beat the Eagles before we get into the game. Remember, Baker said a few weeks ago, they wanted me to come in here, be myself, bring the joy back to football, for the guys weren't having much fun. Tom Brady said, I thought stressful was not having Super Bowl rings. This wasn't daycare. If I was going to have fun, I was going to Disneyland
Starting point is 00:58:09 with my kids. Do you have a problem, Ty, with what either guy said? No. Because I'm older, though. I understand what Baker's trying to say, and I understand what Tom has said. So it's a difference. I understand what he's trying to say. That's a what Tom has said. So it's a difference. I understand what he's trying
Starting point is 00:58:26 to say. That's a conversation I have with my sons all the time. Baby, I know what you're trying to say, but you didn't get your, you didn't flush your whole thought out. That's why I love you in this platform. You know why? Because when you was on CBS, you got 15 seconds. You had to get out of there. It was jump rope. It was like boxing jump rope.
Starting point is 00:58:41 You had to get out of there. You had to develop no 15 seconds, Chad. Y'all know that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you can't do that. But here you got long form. You get to exhaust your whole thought.
Starting point is 00:58:53 I know what he's trying to say. I have no problem with either take. But I understand, Tom. You understand, like, Tom, you know when you win and you win a lot and you win consistent, this is a stressful situation because the expectations. It ain't no weeks off because you expect to play at a high
Starting point is 00:59:12 level all the time. And you played, Mike was in San Fran when you was there. You know how Mike kept that offense. He stayed, and he became the head coach for us. He stayed on our necks. He stayed there because the level of expectations,
Starting point is 00:59:31 we expect to go out there and win every single week. And he told, I'll never accept anything in a win. I wouldn't in a loss. He says, I don't care about winning. That's not, we want to win. But he made us believe and play at levels that we probably didn't think we can play at consistently. But, oh, it wasn't no key, key, key, and a whole lot of key, key, key. No, no.
Starting point is 00:59:54 He's one of the best I've ever seen. I talked to him last year. He's like, Coach Brian, you know, if you want any of the cut-ups for my meetings, I filmed everything. I filmed everything. I filmed every darn meeting we had. If you want to hear that stuff, I will give it to you. I will come over there and teach you guys. I mean, this is
Starting point is 01:00:10 Mike Shanahan. Chad, let me tell you something, man. I've seen this dude diagram plays in a walk-through and tell the offense, safety's going to do this, the corner's going to do this, we're going to do this, and it's going to be a touchdown. First touchdown we scored in the Super Bowl against San Diego, I had seen him do that play at practice do this, and it's going to be a touchdown. First touchdown we scored in the Super Bowl against San Diego,
Starting point is 01:00:26 I had seen him do that play at practice several times, and everything he said was going to transpire. It did, and it was a touchdown to Jerry Rice. One of the greatest signal callers I've ever seen in my life. Back to the game, Baker finished 30 of 47, season-high 347 yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. He also had a rushing touchdown. He kept the defenders on their heels, spreading the ball around,
Starting point is 01:00:48 eight different receivers. Following the reeked three-dud Tampa mustered only seven points against a then-wetless Broncos squad, the Bucs got back on track against the Eagles, who rent down and did a number on the New Orleans Saints. Let's talk about the Eagles. What's going on with the Eagles? Why haven't we seen that level of consistency? Well, everybody putting it on Jalen.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Everybody putting it on Jalen Hurts. Y'all know it. Quit playing. Y'all know what's going on. Everybody putting it on Jalen Hurts. He's not a one-man game. It's hard. You don't give them all the credit when they win.
Starting point is 01:01:21 It's hard. You're missing A.K. Brown. You don't give them all the credit when they lose. You're missing A.K. Brown. You're missing Devontae Smith. Exactly. You mean he's missing a lot. That's right. But they're putting it on his back. You know when you get a bag,
Starting point is 01:01:34 they're going to put it on your back because he is what he is. Baker seemed to have found a home in Tampa. This is the best Baker has looked since he had that season in which they went to the playoffs. they beat Pittsburgh in what in the uh uh the wild card game if I think it was the wild card game I think they beat uh Pittsburgh they had that home game Baker played unbelievable whatever happened he fell out of favor in Cleveland he went to Carolina we know the situation in Carolina
Starting point is 01:02:00 is very chaotic uh the organ, it's not very good. Man, what's going on in Carolina, man? Tell me so we both know. I need to know. Like, what's really going on in Carolina? You might find out. They look good last week. You might find out. See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:02:24 See how he's playing? See how he's playing? See how you playing? See how you playing? See how you playing? What he saying? He want to play with you. He want to play with you. He want to play with you too much. You might find out.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I mean, did I, but I did. I'm going to ask you. Hey, Ty, what's going on in Carolina? Hey, what I'm saying is I hate it for the kid because you can't just take his confidence and throw it against the wall and you gave him nothing. You're talking about Brian Jones. Nothing. No support.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Yeah. No, thank you. No support. No, no, no help. No, no girth of talent around him to build something. He pretty much was ideal. Now, I'm not going to say on his own, but that's tough, man.
Starting point is 01:03:07 When you come from a program like Alabama and everybody you got is a five-star and they're better than the opposing team, and you're used to a certain tempo, a certain pace, a certain thought process going into the game, now you start slowly to lose that confidence, man. And that's tough.
Starting point is 01:03:23 That is tough, man. I told you, Prime, when he was up there, slowly to lose that confidence, man. And that's tough. That is tough, man. I told you, Prime, when he was up there, you know, and that's one thing you're a God-fearing man. You're a God-fearing man as well. But when you get on the podium and they ask you, this is how I knew his confidence was going. He was shot. And they ask you,
Starting point is 01:03:40 do you still have confidence? And his answer was, my confidence is in the Lord. That's not the time for that kind of answer. You can't say that. You can't say it ain't the time for the Lord. I know what you're saying. You said as a football player Right now? I know you got a relationship with the Lord, but I need to hear you as a man tell me you got this.
Starting point is 01:04:07 That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. I ain't one of the church folks to get in your DM because you know how church folks are. I mean, the church folks are. I got my tambourine on me. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 01:04:21 When you're that guy, we want to hear you say i'm as confident as i've ever been i've lost no confidence i believe in me my teammates believe in me we're going through a rough patch we're going to turn it around now they might you might not believe you gotta believe that sincerely though because yeah you might fool like i said i tell them i used to tell the reporters all the time i see a lot of people in this locker room got y'all fooled. Y'all think y'all made this and made that. Y'all have no idea. But when you run these guys nine hours a day, five, six days a week,
Starting point is 01:04:57 you can't fool none of your teammates because they see you all the time. Do you agree with this? Y'all tell me y'all agree with this. In our era, the guys that had the crispy, clean images were the worst. Were some of the worst cats ever. Yeah, that's me. Then the ones that y'all thought was the bad boys
Starting point is 01:05:14 was the best dudes ever. But the whole team adored. Y'all agree with that? Yeah, that's me. And we used to just sit back and say, Lord have mercy. When you find out, you're going to get hurt. You're going to get hurt. You took the word right out of my mouth.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I say, if y'all only knew. Right. But that ain't my place to tell you. You'll find out sooner or later. And if you don't, oh well. But that ain't my place to tell you. Oh well. That ain't my place to tell you.
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