Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Dolphins still alive, Russ bests Daniels, Chiefs remain undefeated

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from Week 10 of the NFL season including Tua Tagovailoa and the Miami Dolphins taking down Matthew Stafford and the Los Angeles Ra...ms on Monday Night Football, Russell Wilson and the Pittsburgh Steelers taking down rookie QB Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders, Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs remain undefeated and much more!03:00 - Dolphins beat the Rams07:41 - Unc and Ocho make a mock draft09:40 - Mike Williams vs. Aaron Rodgers11:56 - The Cowboys quarterback debate17:46 - Lions vs. Texans25:10 - 49ers beat the Bucs29:05 - Steelers beat the Commanders37:00 - Chiefs versus Broncos39:00 - Who’s surprised by the Jets?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:11 See DKNG.com slash promos for deposit, wagering, and eligibility restrictions, terms, and responsible gaming resources. Ocho, the Dolphins defeat the Rams by the score of 23-15. Tua was 20 of 28 207 one touchdown one interception uh they ran the ball 22 times for 67 yards not a whole lot but uh tour did just enough three sacks one turnover matthew stafford was 32 of 46 293 no touchdowns no they didn't score they kicked five field goals they They missed one. He had one interception, got sacked four times.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Puka Nakua had nine catches for 98. Cooper Cupp had seven for 80, but none of them got the ball into the end zone. And it was three possessions back to back to back to back where the Dolphins turned it over and then the Rams turned it over and then the Dolphins
Starting point is 00:04:03 turned it over again. So with that being I, yeah, I think that's how it went. But it was three consecutive possessions in which a turnover occurred. But Ocho, the Dolphins get the win by the score of 23-15 over the Rams. They do it on the road. They move to three and six. So now with seven games to go, what do you think the chances are the Dolphins go on a stretch here, win some games,
Starting point is 00:04:30 and get into the playoffs? I mean, listen, in order for the Dolphins to go on a stretch, Tua's going to have to play perfect. He's going to have to protect the ball, not throw any interceptions, and Mike McDaniels has to get that passing game going the way it was going last year. Every game, Tyreek Hill was hitting his head off the goalpost.
Starting point is 00:04:46 They was putting Tyreek in position to make plays. They got to get the ball to Waddle. They need a third person who I would say was Odell Beckham. They need to find a way to integrate him into the game plan as well. Because, for one, if you're going to double goddamn Tyreek, you're going to single up or sometimes, depending on what defense they play, you're going to double up goddamn Waller as well. They got to find a way to add Odell
Starting point is 00:05:10 Beckham as a threat to the passing game to open things up a little bit more for the run game. Most of the N.A. Chan, they was okay tonight. Still not enough if you want to go on a seven-game win streak in the next nine games. The chances of them actually doing it is very difficult. No, they got seven games.
Starting point is 00:05:26 No, they got to win seven of the last nine, in order to make the goddamn playoff. No, no, no, no. They can't win seven of the last nine because there's not nine games left. Wait, what? Oh, it's Monday. There's only seven games left.
Starting point is 00:05:36 What week is this? This is week nine. No, Unc. They're three and six. Okay, okay okay okay if my math served me right so that's 9 3 plus 6 is 9 you right you right
Starting point is 00:05:50 actually they got 8 so 17 games they got 8 games left right okay okay okay so they gotta win damn 7 of the last 8 nah Ocho I think the question is now if they get in that means you might cause the last eight. No, Ocho, I think the question is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Now, if they get in, that means you might cause are they going to be three teams from the NFC North? Because it might come down to them in Cincinnati because I think you and I both believe
Starting point is 00:06:18 Baltimore and Steelers are going to get in. Oh, yeah. One will win the division. The other will be probably the top wildcard, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:24 OK, you got Kansas City, right? And you're probably going to have – looks like it's going to be Houston. So if you got Baltimore, Cincinnati, you got Kansas City, you got Houston. And Buffalo. That's five. You only got two spots left. Hold on. You left off the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:06:43 You didn't even say Pittsburgh. No, I said one of those will win the division and the other will be the top wild card. That's two. Right. Buffalo, three. Kansas City, four. Houston, five. Okay. You got Cincinnati. You got Cincinnati,
Starting point is 00:07:00 Miami, Denver. Yeah. Denver? What you threw them in there for? Because Denver is what? What's their record? Five and four or four and four? The Broncos are five and four? Hey, listen, listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:07:17 See, the Broncos are five and five, Ocho. Listen, I know they at 500. I know, listen, this ain't the Make-A-Wish Foundation. The Broncos ain't going nowhere. The Broncos ain't listening nowhere. The Broncos. You do realize there are two games clear of the Dolphins in the win column. Two. You do understand.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It takes a snap of the fingers for the Dolphins to look like the Dolphins are old and they turn that thing around and go on a run. We can't compare the goddamn Denver Broncos offense to the Dolphins. Hold on. But you're comparing the Dolphins of the Dolphins of old that can just snap a finger and get on the road. So what are you doing? That's the only reason they don't look right offensively and Tyreek and Waddle's numbers are down this year is because Tua was out. That's the only
Starting point is 00:07:51 reason. So what's the likelihood of Tua? You counting on Tua? You willing to bet any amount of money that Tua's gonna stay healthy the rest of the year? Of course! Current mock drafts. Number one overall pick, Travis Hunter. Number two overall pick, to the Giants, Shador Sanders. Number three overall pick, Travis Hunter. Number two overall pick to the Giants, Shador Sanders. Number three overall pick, Cam Ward, quarterback, Miami.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Number four overall pick, Cleveland Browns, McMillan, the receiver out of Arizona. Number five, Will Johnson, quarterback, Michigan. Number six overall to the Patriots, OT, Will Campbell. Number seven, D-line, Mason Graham. Eight, Abdul Carter, Edge, Penn State. Number nine, Nick Scorton. What is that?
Starting point is 00:08:36 Kurt Scorton? Edge, Texas A&M. And then Kevin Banks Jr., OT, Texas. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like that little mock draft.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Who is that? That's Mel Kiper shit? I don't know who that is. I don't know who that is. Okay. We might, hey, we might start our own mock draft. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't watch enough tape.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Man, we don't watch no tape. We can't. I mean, look, I ain't got the time to sit down and break down the tape i got too much over i'm playing right now with five shows two nights uh two uh uh espn shows and a show once two shows a week with club shea shea i absolutely have you know what's funny when i when i think about it you know without having a without having to dive deep into it you know from the surface level, from a fan watching collegiate games, I can kind of tell you who is that boy and who's not.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I don't need to sit there and watch 200,000 hours of goddamn film to tell you, oh, that young fella there, he can play. When you turn on the film, there are 22 people on the field. If you really like that, outside of that 22 on film, that individual always pops out. He always pops out. people on the field. If you really like that, outside of that 22 on film, that individual always pops out. He always pops out. Always.
Starting point is 00:09:51 You can tell who's who. And that's pretty much it. That's my piece. I am not male. Mike Rogers pokes a little fun. Hashtag red line at Aaron Rogers. After Aaron Rogers called out Mike Williams for running the wrong route and they lost to the Bills, Williams took the high road.
Starting point is 00:10:10 After Williams made a stellar debut in the Steelers, he posted on IG celebrating his first game. Williams added three hashtags. Whole lot of hashtag number two was we back, and number three, hashtag red line. The last one was a direct reference to Rodgers' criticism. Aaron Rodgers told reporters after Monday night loss to Buffalo, Williams was supposed to be on the red line on the practice field
Starting point is 00:10:34 five yards from the sideline. Hey, see how he threw Mike Williams under the bus? He's up. Ocho, that's his history. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I like the subliminal shot, though. Yeah. I like it. I like the little jab. Hey, the Steelers don't play the Jets this year? I don't know. The Steelers play the Jets or they already played them? Probably not. Probably not.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Probably not. Either way, listen, I like it. I like the fact that it was bothering them. Listen, nobody likes to be thrown under the bus. Especially not the quarterback. Thank you. That hurt.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Because, do you know how many times we could, hey, what about that effed up interception you threw? Oh, yeah. What about that fumble you had? What about that read? What about that heart read that you missed? There's always stuff to go around, but you're mindful that, look, everybody's in a stressful situation.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Our job is to go out there and win all the while while somebody's trying to hit you in the back of your damn head. Yep. So, I'm not, look, my job is not to try to embarrass somebody. When I get on the sideline, yeah, I would yell. I would try to keep it to a minimum because I know the mics would go try to pick up anything that I said. Or the cameras going to play. But most of my thing, correcting, was done once we got
Starting point is 00:12:08 into the building, away from prying eyes of fans, media, cameras, or whoever. Oh, everybody was like, Cooper Rush can lead this team. Look at him. He's so much better than Dak. Who said that? Man threw for 45 yards. Who said he was better than Dak?
Starting point is 00:12:24 But they were trying to be funny. Cowboy fans. Jerry had people believing that he was good. Jerry said that? Man threw for 45 yards. Who said he was better than Dak? But they were trying to be funny. Cowboy fans. Jerry had people believing that he was good. Jerry said that? Even Troy and Tony Romo said, hey, there might be a frenzy for Cooper Rush. He's a very good quarterback. He's right back there in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:12:41 That goddamn media dollars. They don't say anything to support the young fella, man. I understand what he's saying, but you knew he wasn't better than Dak no matter what. I knew nobody was, bro, he'll back up. He can win you a couple of games here and there until your starter comes back. But there wasn't nobody going to put their franchise in his hands. I understand.
Starting point is 00:13:01 You know what's funny? For them to be able to say that. And understanding that he is a backup and he wouldn't be the future of your franchise, especially putting the keys in his hands for success and being able to compete at a high level week in and week out. We need to take their credibility card, too. I'm just saying it's okay for them to do it, but if it's us, we're here at a different standing when it comes to saying certain things about certain players. You got to hear that.
Starting point is 00:13:32 But I try, Ojo, I try to be a, look, I try to evaluate what my eyes tell me, what my experience tells me. I don't look at where he plays. I don't look at the position that he plays. I just basically go by what my experience tells me. I don't look at where he plays. I don't look at the position that he plays. I just basically go by what my eyes tell me
Starting point is 00:13:48 and what my experiences tell me. That's how I evaluate a player. And I know some people are like, well, you don't like this guy or you don't like that guy. It's not about like or dislike. My job is not to like or dislike. My job is to offer an honest critique
Starting point is 00:14:01 of said player, said teams. I try to do that to the best of my ability. I understand when fan bases, certain fan bases don't like what I say, but if you check my history, I've criticized Tom Brady, Tony Romo, some of the great quarterbacks. When you play, when you play well, I got no problem saying you play well, but when you play bad, I think I owe it to the fans that watch me to say that you play bad. When I say you,
Starting point is 00:14:29 Ocho, what fans got to understand, when I say a player is playing bad or plays bad, that doesn't take away anything great he has accomplished.
Starting point is 00:14:39 If you've been an all pro, if you've been an MVP, a defensive player of the year, or whatever the case may be, that doesn't take away from that. You've already won that. That can't be taken away. I'm talking about a specific game or a stretch
Starting point is 00:14:53 of games. That's what I'm evaluating you on. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. You're right. I like it. And sometimes people like, you're trying to diminish the guy no how can I diminish what he's already done it's like hold on what's that
Starting point is 00:15:10 the old wheel of fortune I know you don't remember this Ocho and a lot of people in the chat but Chuck Woolery used to be the original host of wheel of fortune and they used to what you do you spin the wheel and they would let you buy stuff so if you won $2,500,
Starting point is 00:15:26 you can buy a microwave for $300. I would like to buy that his and her bicycles for $750. So you can buy stuff with the money that you won. And once you buy a prize, it was yours to keep. You only lost if you had money
Starting point is 00:15:42 and you hit bankruptcy. So I'm like the wheel of fortune. Once that guy's accomplished that, I can't take it back. He's done it. But I think for someone to feel that because they're an accomplished player and they're above reproach, I disagree. I vehemently disagree. I stringently disagree.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Those are some big words, man. Hey, bring that back to me again. Yeah, but hey, I ain't never heard that before. What kind of, what kind of, what do you, what, disagree, what? Stringently? I stringently and vehemently disagree. Oh, vehemently. Okay,
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Starting point is 00:21:06 He tied it up with a 58-yarder as the Lions rallied to beat the Texans 26-23. Jared Goff threw five, one, two, three, four, five interceptions. Cinco, cinco, cinco. Cinco interceptions. This one is going to hurt because there's no way you're supposed to lose a game, Ocho, at home when the opposing team turns it over five times. Houston held a 23-7 lead at the break, only to watch it evaporate. The Texans lost three of their last four games, fall to six and four.
Starting point is 00:21:42 They're still atop the AFC South, and they're getting Nico Collins back next week, which should help. But Nico wasn't the reason why they lost him. Not having him wasn't the reason. Big question about this team. Sealing remains after tonight. You got to win this game, Ocho. You have to. You're at home.
Starting point is 00:21:59 You're up. But CJ, bro, you can't come out of halftime and throw a pick. Ocho, how many times have people, a fan, a listening audience, a viewing audience, how many times have you heard Ocho and I say, if you're late with that out ball, it's going to get picked if the guy can catch. Now, if he can catch, he's going to pick it. If he can't catch, he's going to knock it down. But it's not going to be in completion when you're late.
Starting point is 00:22:21 He's off. He's in a cool position. So that tells you automatically you can't be late with it. Right. Because he's driving, Ocho. He's already that way. He's driving. And if anything, if you're going to miss, don't miss inside.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Miss wide and outside. It's incomplete out of bounds. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be one or the other. You can't leave it inside. It is going the other way. Give Clark Davis a lot of credit because he made a heck of a play on the ball.
Starting point is 00:22:46 He had two outstanding interceptions. I don't know why CJ on the first interception put so much air on it. Ocho, what did he think? That Carlton Davis was going to give up on the play? Yeah, you know what? I think, was it the pressure? No, he rolled out of the pocket. No, he rolled out of the pocket.
Starting point is 00:23:03 The one he threw in the end zone that Carlton Davis got. Yeah, yeah, they picked off. Their tank was open. No pressure. There was no pressure on him. He had an easy throw. He even directed and told him to – and I don't know why he didn't put it more on the line
Starting point is 00:23:17 because Carlton Davis sees that he's beat. So he's running full speed. The last thing you want him to do is have an opportunity to break that ball up when he's that wide open. I know you don't want to overshoot him, but you got to put it more on the line. Yeah, we still have more questions than answers about the Houston Texans. They've lost three of their last four. The turnovers are starting to mount.
Starting point is 00:23:40 CJ is starting to turn the ball over a lot more than he even did last year. And they're a good team. they're a really good team they didn't run the ball particularly well tonight uh give detroit a credit because they got a good defensive front now that was they played that game without uh z the darius smith but when you look at matt mcneil and pasqua uh pascal they clogged that middle. They do a great job of collapsing the interior. Now, when they get Z, he's going to bring the heat off the edge. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:13 It's going to be nasty, especially on passing downs. And their secondary is improving game by game. Branch and Joseph and those guys, they're getting better and better and better. They're getting better. We got to get Terry on Arnold to be a little bit more patient. Be a little more patient. Look back for the ball. Too many pass interference plays.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Too many holding penalties. Every single game he's getting called for something. Sometimes two and three a game. They might have could have got him on that last play on that third down. They could have easily called it. Yeah, they could have called it easily. They let it go, though. They let it go.
Starting point is 00:24:47 They didn't want that to be the deciding factor, you know, in the game. But, I mean, he got to work on that. You know, using your eyes, man. Playing with your eyes, using your instincts, and stop being so handsy. And look back for the ball a little bit. Look back for the ball. Some of them, you know, it's different.
Starting point is 00:25:03 If you look back, I know most DBs, they panic when they can't see and they see the receiver's eyes get big. But if you look back for the ball early, man, and keep yourself in position, nine times out of ten, you'll be able to make a play on the ball. And most of the time, you'll be able to pick it. Yep. And I think the thing is, Ocho, I'm watching this game.
Starting point is 00:25:23 The Lions offensive coordinator got afraid to call his game. They started just handing the ball off to Gibbs and handing the ball off to Montgomery. I'm like, bro, it's third and seven. Y'all let the 50-yard line and y'all hand the ball off? A straight dive? Because they had gotten, I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:40 I'm looking at some of those interceptions. Ain't no way in hell golf thought those guys were open. Them guys wasn't even close to being open, Ocho. I'm like, bro, look, I get it. You know, it's kind of like anything else, Ocho. You know, you get a touchdown, it's easy to get another touchdown. You know, you get a sack, it's easy to get another sack because normally we say things happen in bunches.
Starting point is 00:26:02 You know, you get a bunch of sacks. You get a bunch of catches. You get a bunch of touchdowns. Same thing with bunch of catches. You get a bunch of touchdowns. Same thing with interceptions. Guy throws one and all of a sudden he throws another. Damn, that's two. And another. And in his mind, he's like, well, hey, I might as well just keep slinging it.
Starting point is 00:26:15 But the Lions and the coordinators said, hell nah, because you're killing us. Yeah, yeah. Most definitely. That's why he stopped. That's why he stopped calling the normal offense and what we're seeing. So how can we get the ball out of golf's hands until we feel he's a little bit more comfortable?
Starting point is 00:26:32 They started screening him, screening him to death. They throw the swing, they had Gibbs on one side, on the opposite of the quarterback, and they run in behind and throw it to him. Sewell gets him a great block. They run a drill break screen to Armond St. Brown for the touchdown. They started doing everything they could.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Hey, one, two, three, throw the ball. That's perfect, though. You know what Ben Johnson is doing when he does that? Yes. You know what? Let's get him comfortable again. Let's get him in rhythm with some easy throws, get the ball out of his hands.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I don't want him to think, Ocho, because he's thinking too much now. Yeah. Get it out. Get it out right away. One, two, three, hey, scream. One, two, three, jailbreak. One, two, three, quick out. One, two, three, stick route. I don't want you thinking because you're killing us.
Starting point is 00:27:16 As a matter of fact, you're probably hurting your damn self too because you don't say, hey, I was thinking about something. I hope you don't hurt yourself. I'm like, bro, what are you doing? What do you see? But this is a good team, bro, what are you doing? What do you see? But this is a good team, Mocho. When you can go on the road and you turn the ball over five
Starting point is 00:27:31 times and you still come away with a victory, this is a good team. This is a very good team. They're very well coached. They did not panic. Campbell, I couldn't hear what he said, but I think I could try to read his lips. I think he said about defense need to come out here and shut him down
Starting point is 00:27:48 the first drive and right on cue Carlton Davis gets a pick. And now all of a sudden we got a ball game. What a lead that could have been extended. It could have been 26 to seven. It could have been 30 to seven. Now all of a sudden, boom. But hell, if I'm not mistaken,
Starting point is 00:28:06 what'd you call him to come back and give it right back to him? He threw an interception. Yeah. Golf. He did. He did not play well today. Not at all. It was a sloppy game. It's funny. This probably makes no sense. It was a sloppy
Starting point is 00:28:20 game, but it was a good game at the same time. Yes. The 49ers defeated the Bucs 23-20. in the return of Christian McCaffrey. The 49ers emerged victorious with the biggest story of the side was on the sideline when a scuffle between Debo Samuel, long snapper, Tabor Pepper. After the game, Debo explained what prompted the heat exchange occurred after kicker Jake Moody's third missed field goal of
Starting point is 00:28:45 the game normally I don't even get like that but just frustrated in the heat of the battle you know real close game I kind of got out of character but I'll talk to Moody and we'll get past it Moody responded with a rough outing by drilling a 44 yard game-winning field goal as time gotta loosen everything up gotta loosen everything up as a kicker you got one job got nothing else. You do one thing five, six, seven, eight days out of the week. I'm talking about eight days. It's only seven.
Starting point is 00:29:11 All you got to do. You got one job is to kick. So when they ask of you to do that one job that you do do, you know, you're going to miss. You're human. It's the NFL. You want to be as perfect as possible. That's the reason why you practice. If you fall short of being being perfect it'd be better than most but you can't miss three kicks that could have cost you the game today three come on that most of the time
Starting point is 00:29:35 if you drop three balls as a receiver likelihood you unless you're a number one or elite player, probably not going to be playing. But what happens if Debo fumble the ball and they lose the game and the guy goes up there and grabs his face mask? What if he drops two passes on the last drive and we lose the game and he grabs his face mask or he gets in his face? You think Debo going to be cool with that? Probably not. So that's why you have to look.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And I get it. Look, you and I both been on the sidelines. We've seen kickers miss it. We've seen, you know, guys do things. And yeah, it's frustrating. It is extremely frustrating. But you also have to understand. Now, the way football work and the football gods,
Starting point is 00:30:18 they'll put you in that situation to have you drop a pass or to have you. They get you right every time. They get you right every time. They get you right every time. Yeah. But like I said, look, I know they're frustrated. They're not having the season that they expected. They're 5-4.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I can assure you the 49ers thought they would be better than 5-4 after nine games. But you know what's funny about the goddamn 49ers? They always go on an F and run when it counts. This is the first time they won back-to-back games, so they could be on to something. Who do the 49ers got next two to three games, Ash? They got Seahawks at home, at Packers, at Bills.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Seahawks at Packers at Bills. Ooh. Ooh, that's a good one. Mm-hmm. Oh, them tricky. I'm playing the Seahawks. What Seahawks team are we going to get, you know? Man, Seahawks been –
Starting point is 00:31:13 They've been bad too. I mean, Geno been putting up big numbers. I think Geno – He been turning the ball over. Yeah, Geno in the league, I ain't passing, ain't he? He was. Yeah, he was. I mean, Purdy's going to be up there knocking.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Well, Geno had a big – I think Geno had a big game when they played Monday night no they were on a bye week Seattle was on a bye Seattle was on a bye but Purdy had an outstanding day he was 25 of 36 353 excuse me two touchdowns clean game
Starting point is 00:31:42 no turnovers he fumbled but Jennings got it Excuse me. Two touchdowns. Clean game. No turnovers. He fumbled, but Jennings got it. Ended up recovering it. I had a good game today, buddy. You were balling. Oh, Jennings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Pearsall had a big day. Four for 73 on a touchdown. His first touchdown. C-Mac came back. Six catches, 66 yards. Debo was five for 62. It killed him. Great touchdown. Purdy did a great job of finding him in the back of the end catches, 66 yards. Debo was five for 62. It killed him. Great touchdown.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Purdy did a great job of finding him in the back of the end zone, Ocho. He had three for 57 on the touchdown. Pearsall had four for 73 on the touchdown. Yeah, I mean, but this is the type of game that Purdy needed because they were unable to run the football. Russ versus the Rooks. Steelers get the win against the Commanders, 28-27. At halftime, the Steelers had 97 yards of total offense.
Starting point is 00:32:29 They finished with 312. Russ was inconsistent. He was 14-58, 14-28, 195 yards, three TDs, and one INT. Daniels, who entered the game as an MVP candidate, did not have his best game, completed 16-32, 194, 194 yards.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah, he missed a couple of throws that he liked to have back. He had Luke McCaffrey on a crossing route that he really would, really, really would love to have that one back. But give Russ credit because Russ, I think at one point, was like 9 of 20, but he picked it up. George Pickens made some big-time plays. And Fryer Muth came up clutch for him, made some big-time plays. Austin had a couple of big catches, and they were able to go on the road.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Man, I'm watching this game, Mocho. Did you see how many people raving them terrible towels? Yeah. Hey, wait. I said, hold on. I was like, I got to go back and look. I got to see if this is Washington or this is Pittsburgh. When the Steelers play away, they travel extremely well.
Starting point is 00:33:32 So wherever they playing at, basically, it's their stadium. The Steelers will make it their stadium, no matter how far. No matter how far they playing. It don't matter. You know why, Ocho? Why? Because the Steelers were really good in the 70s. And a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:33:48 Right. Now, they got kids. They grew up watching the Steelers. They became Steelers fans. And a lot of times, kids become fans like their parents of the team that their parents root for. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:34:02 So, when you go, you're absolutely right. When you go on the road, I'm looking. I'm like, hold on. Washington got the ball. Why the crowd is in the prison? Why they waving the towels? I said, Washington don't raise no towels.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Oh, yeah. And I'm like, let me go. I said. They take it there. Take your stadium over. Take your airport. I'm like, oh, my goodness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:26 That was a good game, though. It was. It was. And I was listening to some of the Commander fans. They were upset about taking the L today. Do y'all realize y'all are at the top of the division? Do you realize you just lost only your third game? Do you realize the quarterback that you do have at the helm,
Starting point is 00:34:42 you have a decade plus some of winning football with him as your quarterback. Nothing to hang your head on about losing today. It's cool. It's cool. I'm happy for Russ, though. Three starts. He's 3-0. A lot of people question Mike Tomlin putting him
Starting point is 00:34:59 back in as a starter. I wouldn't call it a gamble, but the gamble that most people say it is, it's paying off. Yeah, absolutely. And he said it himself. Yeah. Ocho, he said it himself.
Starting point is 00:35:12 He was a long ranger on this decision. Okay, okay, okay. But, and he said, but he also said, this is why they paid me the big bucks to make these decisions and I'm able to stand. And the one thing that you know
Starting point is 00:35:23 about the Steelers organization, they're always going to back their head coach. That's why they've only had three since 1969. They had Chuck Knoll, they had Coach Cowher, and now they have Mike T. There's a reason. They're not swayed by the media. They're not swayed by the fans
Starting point is 00:35:40 talking about fire this and fire that. That's not how the Roonies operate. They don't care about that. The Steelers run their record. They sit firmly atop the AFC North with a 72 record, but they haven't played any division games. They got two games against Baltimore, two games against Cleveland, two games against Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:36:01 We're going to find a lot more about the Steelers, a lot more about the Steelers, a lot more about the Ravens, and a lot more about the Bengals over the next six weeks because I think they got – in the next six weeks, Ocho, I think they got the Ravens twice and the Bengals twice. Yeah. Hey, I mean, I'm thinking about the damn Steelers sitting atop of the goddamn AFC North. And who would have ever thought?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Last year, you didn't even have a quarterback. No. Last year, you didn't even have a quarterback. And, you know, you're bringing Russell Wilson, you're bringing Justin Fields. Then you have two. So I'm thinking, well, hell, they got a quarterback carousel going on. They definitely going to be last in the division. This is how I'm thinking as a player.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Yes, I agree. When there's quarterback controversy, it's too much turmoil. It's too much going on because one time they'll put one in and he might not play well because there's pressure because he knows, damn, I can't make any mistakes because if I make any mistakes, they're going to put an old boy in there. Yes. So you're not able to play freely.
Starting point is 00:37:01 You play very conservative football. So I'm thinking, yeah, the Steelers ain't going to be nothing today. But Justin Fields surprised me the first three weeks. They might have went through at some point when they put Russell in, but Justin Fields played well. Now Russell get the goddamn job. He's at the helm, and he cooking.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah. He cooking. So he keep making Tomlin look good. The thing is though but in order for this to be a success Justin had to do what he was doing because imagine if he goes 0 for so now all of a sudden you're trying to get to 500
Starting point is 00:37:34 instead of being 7-2 Mike Tomlin knows his team he's around this team he knew how his team would respond he knew he was making a very very tough decision but he knew he had the type of guys in the locker room that would back his decision because they trust him. He's given them no reason
Starting point is 00:37:49 not to trust him. The organization trusts him. And so we should have had faith. I should have had faith in Mike Tomlin knowing over the last 17, 18 years, he's been nothing but exemplary. Mike Tomlin would ask postgame about the similarities,
Starting point is 00:38:05 the difference between Jaden Daniels and Lamar Jackson. Man, be real slow comparing people to Lamar Jackson. That's a multi-time MVP. That's Mr. Jackson. We'll see Mr. Jackson in a few days. Yeah. Yeah. You can't compare the two.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Now, there are two things that they do alike. They can run the ball. They can throw the ball. But they're two completely different type of players altogether. I mean, look, just because somebody is black and they can run the football and throw the football, that'll be their Lamar. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you. You will never be able to change
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Starting point is 00:43:11 Let's get to this game. The Chiefs stay undefeated with a blocked field goal. The Chiefs lead the NFL in seven. One possession wins this season. The most one score game by an eventual Super Bowl champ is nine. Both by the 2015 Broncos and the 1986 Giants. Hey, Broncos played good. Hey, can I tell you?
Starting point is 00:43:31 Didn't I tell you? I would be surprised. They got damn Broncos D. The boys play good. Yes, they always play good. This is a divisional game and most of the time when you play within the division, the games are always
Starting point is 00:43:47 close. Again, the Chiefs look like they've looked the entirety of the season. Always finding a way to win. It's unfortunate, but the Broncos should have won this game today. Obviously, it came down to a blocked field goal at the end.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I'm going to let you slide because I was going to say, if your I'm going to let you slide because I was going to say, if your team lost today, I don't want... But listen, I only have the energy right now. You know why I don't have the energy right now. So I'm going to let you
Starting point is 00:44:17 slide tonight and just say that it was a good game. It was a good game, even though I was impressed with the Broncos defense. You got a heavy heart right now and a lot on your mind. I do understand. No, I don't got no heavy heart. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:44:34 You got a heavy heart. You got a heavy heart. I do. Hold on. Let me take let me take my shades off. So you can see my ass. I'm good. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:44:46 He don't mean it. Remember what I told you? Listen. Stay with me real quick, right? No. No. We don't get right back to football. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:57 You know how to compartmentalize, right? Yes. You know how to manage your expectations, right? Based on situation, right? Okay. I'm going to leave it at that let's talk about the game I'm good boy now you done fired the coach
Starting point is 00:45:13 you done demoted the offensive coordinator well the defense gave up 31 well you know the offense is allowed to score more than six absolutely cause that's the one thing I love about football it's not like when you play one on one you play gave up 31. Well, you know, the offense is allowed to score more than six. Absolutely. Because that's the one thing I love about football. It's not like when you play one-on-one, you play make it, take it. I make a basket, I take it back out again.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Now, in football, I score a touchdown, I kick it up to you. You can score two. But they're not going to have nobody. Ain't nobody else to fire. Ain't nobody else to blame. You fire Salah. See, you got to be. You fired Salah. See, you gotta be careful
Starting point is 00:45:48 when you do things for the wrong reasons. See, a lot of this has to do with him being mad at the Packers for drafting Jordan Love. So I'm gonna go show you that I still got something left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:04 If you're not... Ocho, you've heard me say it a Yeah. If you're not, Ocho, you've heard me say it a lot. If you're not careful, you'll become the bad thing. You despise the most of the person, the guy that preceded him. What did he do?
Starting point is 00:46:14 He got mad because they took a quarterback. And where did he go first when he left green Bay? That's the same thing. Same, same thing. Same, same thing. I mean, Devontae Adams had 13 targets. He called six passes for 31 yards.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Damn. You probably think that I could have stayed where I was, did exactly this and kept, uh, I think the state income tax in, uh, Jersey, uh,
Starting point is 00:46:47 New York, wherever it is by 10%. I paid nothing. If the state income tax in New York, New Jersey has got to be like 10%. 10 who? I catch, I catch all the end of my career.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I'll pay you back later. What's that? Jersey is 10.75, almost 11. Because he stays in Jersey, so we don't have to do New York, but he stays in Jersey. Nobody stays in the city. New York's 11, so he's playing 10.75%.
Starting point is 00:47:22 That's crazy. Well, you know, I had ideas. Yeah. How did you wrap? Who? But here's the thing. Oh, Joe,
Starting point is 00:47:34 that's the thing. You just think, see what Peyton. Because remember when Peyton got to Denver, they went 13 and three, they won like seven, eight games in a row. Had the number one seed. Baltimore did come in and knock them off in the divisional round.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Peyton finished second in the MVP voting. The next year, they go to the Super Bowl. Peyton, they break all the records. Peyton, over 5,400 pass yards, NFL record. 55 touchdowns, NFL record. Go to the Super Bowl. The following year, Peyton throws 39 touchdowns. We see what Tom does.
Starting point is 00:48:09 His first year there. So we're like, hey, they do it, ain't they? You expect Aaron to do the same. Those are two natural-born leaders. Natural people gravitate towards them. You don't see Aaron as a leader, huh? I mean, just your own personal opinion. Outside of the dumpster.
Starting point is 00:48:34 All I know is what I've read. What I've read with coaches. Oh, okay. I see what you mean. Not coaches, excuse me. What I've read with the reports about the CEO, Mark Murphy. Aaron, don't you be the problem. They don't consult with him.
Starting point is 00:48:54 They didn't consult with him when they hired. They didn't consult with him when they let somebody go. Damn. The mere fact of how he does things when Mike Williams, oh, I was expecting Mike Williams to do this and he redlined and he was supposed to redline. He got, bro, why would you do that? You can't throw your play under the bus.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Why would you do that? Name the time you've ever heard Peyton Manning. Name the time you've ever heard Peyton or Tom Brady because this is the guy that he wants to be in the category with. When has Tom Brady ever thrown somebody under the bus? When has Peyton Manning ever thrown somebody? They'll eat it. They'll eat it and then have the conversation with
Starting point is 00:49:40 the guys like, look, you know I was expecting you to be on the red line, right? Not run the end cut. Yeah. Every chance he gets. What does he do? You saw him in Green Bay. Yeah. Hey, speaking of Mike being on the red line, you know they had that exact same play today.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Mike had just had that exact same play today with the cover zero and the corner for sitting there squatting, waiting on the slant, waiting on the pass real quick. Bro! Ocho, you can't stand that far inside. You can't give a receiver that kind of free release
Starting point is 00:50:11 to let him just run straight up the field. And he's standing inside, which made it even worse. And pushed him even further inside. Yeah, that was a good play. That was a good play by Mike. These guys here, Ocho, these guys are too good.
Starting point is 00:50:28 If you don't put hands on them... Oh, but remember it was coming zero, so it was off, huh? Remember? He was sitting off. Yes, but Ocho, you can't be that far inside. He was tripping. Think about it. You're already two yards inside.
Starting point is 00:50:44 If he stim you inside, now you're going to be three to four. You give that guy so much area to just throw the ball. And Russ throws as good a deep ball
Starting point is 00:50:52 as anybody. I call it, like they call it a little moon ball. And you, right down in the bucket. You ain't got no chance to recover.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I don't care how fast you is. No, no, you can't cover him back. And he give him a big target because he got all this to drop it over. He ain't got to drop it down what we call trying to, he don't have to drop it down the chimney. I got a big old radius that I can throw it into. I can throw it here.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I can throw it here. I can let you catch it over here because I'm not worried about the DB is so far behind. And then if I throw it over his shoulder, I can use my body, Ocho. He's got to come through me to break the play up. Yeah. But
Starting point is 00:51:35 I don't think it, I don't know. Maybe Jeff's fans are surprised, but I'm not. I, hell, I'm surprised. Honestly, I thought things would have been different I was giving Aaron Rodgers his praise for what I felt he was going to be able to do on the field I didn't really care about the stuff he was doing off of it
Starting point is 00:51:52 do whatever the hell you want to off of it but I'm thinking I'm expecting him to look like maybe not the Aaron Rodgers of old just give me 50% of that give me 50-60% of the old Aaron Rodgers of old, just give me 50% of that. Give me 50-60% of the old Aaron Rodgers. And I thought, you know, the Jets, they're going
Starting point is 00:52:10 to be on one. They're going to be fired. He's talking about Cayenne water and lemon. Who's that? How'd that work out for him today? Cayenne. Yeah, Cayenne water, Cayenne pepper water and lemon. Oh, it's the fountain of youth.
Starting point is 00:52:25 He even had the kicker that drilled the field go, oh, yeah, this thing is working. Bro, that stuff don't work. Look, I understand all that cleanse and you go to these holistic places and they give you all that stuff. Did I get it? I ain't never heard no cayenne. I know about the porous cayenne. Cayenne pepper, they put cayenne pepper and they put water, lemon.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I mean, what was he had? I've discovered a fountain of you. Bro, clearly you don't watch your foot play because ain't nothing useful about you. I'm not breaking any new chat. Do y'all think there's anything useful about Aaron Rodgers' play? Cayenne pepper and water. Does he move like he once did?
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