Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Eagles dominant, Cam Newton upset, Goodell wants to expand

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley and the Philadelphia Eagles improving to 8-2 after they defeat Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders on Thur...sday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho empathize with Cam Newton after he said he felt erased and forgotten by the Carolina Panthers organization, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell wants to expand the regular season to 18 games and much more!03:50 - Show start04:14 - Intro05:50 - Eagles v Commanders18:30 - NFL What-If Standing27:10 - Lamar’s struggles with Steelers42:30 - Jets interim head coach45:20 - Cam Newton believes he has been erased by Panthers58:46 - Goddell wants to increase season to 18 games1:02:30 - Coach Prime will privately intervene if wrong team drafts Shedeur1:07:30 - Bryce Underwood not tempted by Michigan(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:06:00 it in black. We dropped that last week. Quantities are limited. Make sure you go grab yours while supplies last. Again, thank you for your support. Ocho, the Eagles beat the Commanders 26-18 after being held out of the end zone. In the first three quarters, the Eagles exploded for three touchdowns in the fourth quarter. Saquon Barkley scored two of those touchdowns. He racked up 198 total yards.
Starting point is 00:06:25 He had a 26 carries, a buck 46, two TDs, ran one down to the one-yard line, and I think Jalen Hurts ran that one in. So the Eagles have now won six straight games, expanded their lead to one-and-a-half games because the Eagles haven't had their bye week yet, if I'm not mistaken. And so they have a one-and-a-half game lead because they beat them head-to-head. But they have a two-game lead. Well, one-game lead because it's 8-2 to 7-4.
Starting point is 00:06:52 But the Eagles look really good once they got it rolling. The Eagles did – Washington did a great job in the first three quarters, Ocho. Keep them out of the end zone. Make them – try to kick field goals. They missed a couple of those, but tonight I thought Washington, the Eagles defensive line, did a great job pressuring Daniels
Starting point is 00:07:12 and it got him off kilter. This was the worst game of all the games that I've seen him play since he's been a pro, Ocho. This was by far his worst game. Skipping balls, the pressure got to him and it took him out of his ball game. What'd you see? I mean, most definitely. I'm kind of upset obviously to take some of the pressure got to him, and it took him out of his ballgame. What'd you see? I mean, most definitely.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Most definitely. I'm kind of upset, obviously, to take some of the pressure off of him. I would have liked a little bit more efficiency in the running game. I'm not sure who the offensive coordinator is, and I need Terry McLaurin to open his mouth. Cliff Kingsbury is the offensive coordinator. Okay, I need Terry McLaurin. He got to say something.
Starting point is 00:07:46 He's too much of a nice guy. A player of his caliber to go through a game like that and have a goddamn cardio. He ran the goddamn Boston Marathon out there tonight. He ran the Boston Marathon out there tonight. I know he had a young working
Starting point is 00:07:56 Q-On. I don't want to pronounce his name the wrong way. He's really good. Q-On Mitchell. Did I say that the right way? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:08:04 He's the he's the real deal but you do not you do not allow a team to dictate you being able to get the ball to your best weapon offensively i think i think he could have helped tonight obviously the first three quarters of the game the commanders were i don't want to say controlled it because it was it was somewhat of a boring game in the beginning. Obviously. They did do a good job of controlling the Ocho. I thought they did a great job. Yeah, great job. But by the time they got to maybe the third quarter,
Starting point is 00:08:30 maybe around the fifth minute of the third quarter, the Eagles took over. Once the Eagles took over at that point, I mean, it was – they had their way. Qyon Mitchell. It was Qyon? Qyon. Qyon, yeah. I'm not sure if Young Bull is going to see this, but you're the real deal, boy. Youian. Kian. Yeah. I'm not sure if young bull, young bull gonna see this boy,
Starting point is 00:08:46 but you the real deal, boy, you the real deal. I think the Eagles defense at this point, they have 11 takeaways in the last six games. If I'm not, I'm not, but I don't know what the fuck big banjo did.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I don't, I don't know what he did because this is the same team from last year, the same defense for last year where the bottom fell out the last 10 games of the season. And they playing outstanding football. They playing outstanding defense. And I'm not sure what the difference is in last year and this year. But, man, they look completely different defensively. And if they keep this up, they keep this up.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Listen, we might see them boys in New Orleans now. Those first-round D linemen are starting now. Those first-round D-linemen are starting to play like first-round D-linemen. Jalen Carter and Jordan and Sweat and Kobe Dean, who's a linebacker. They're starting to play like high-round draft picks, like they should be playing. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Well, you see that young boy, Reed Blankenship? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's good. He's really good. Cooper Dejean? Dejean, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's good. He's really good. Cooper Dejean? Dejean, yeah. Man, I don't know. Listen, I don't know where they got them from, but them boys are balling, man. Yeah, I like Blankenship.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I like Blankenship a lot. He's good. He's not the greatest in coverage, but hey, he's a thumper, but he's where he's supposed to be. So if you beat him, you've done something really, really well to get yourself open and you should be commended for that.
Starting point is 00:10:10 But I think the biggest thing is that I've noticed is that defensive line is taking the game over. How many third and ones, Ocho, do we see the Washington Commanders not convert? We saw them on fourth and one. Now the bobble snap, I don't know if it was supposed to be a handoff to the running
Starting point is 00:10:26 back or what it was supposed to be, but that bobble snap threw the timing off and now Daniels have to escape the pocket. They did a great job of stopping him. The Eagles go down the field, score. Shaquan runs it in from about 23 yards out. They come out, the next play, two plays, they throw a pick, and the next
Starting point is 00:10:42 thing you know, Shaquan hits his head on the goalpost again and basically ended the game. You can't do that on the road. Turnovers, you can't turn the ball over. But I just thought they did a terrible job on – hold on, let me see. Team staff. Because I thought the Commanders did a terrible job on third down.
Starting point is 00:10:59 They had to be awful on third down. Yep, they were. Three of 12. That's the difference in your ball game. And you had a lot of manageable third downs, Ocho, that you could have converted and kept yourself on the field, get yourself a rhythm,
Starting point is 00:11:12 and try to push the ball, try to get that score instead of 7 of nothing. Maybe get it 14, maybe get it 17. But because you kept getting off the field on third down, 3 of 12. The difference, the Eagles were 9 of 16. You see the difference? Now, the Eagles were nine of 16. You see the difference?
Starting point is 00:11:29 Now, all of a sudden, they staying on the field, Ocho, giving themselves more opportunities to get points out of drives. Yeah, but listen, again, I just, I hate, I love Terry McLaurin, right? I love him. You know, he's not very boisterous. He's not one that complains or but a game like tonight is one of those where you go to your coordinator, you get on the phone, you call upstairs,
Starting point is 00:11:51 you talk to your quarterback, and just tell him give you the ball. But the coordinator's on the sideline. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You still might talk to the receiver coaches upstairs now. Because everybody's not on the field. Right. Whoever's up there, man, make a call. Do something because he's not the type to to be a distraction but in a game like tonight there were no big plays on there were no big plays you you can't he's your best player on
Starting point is 00:12:14 offense you got to find ways to get in the ball if they're doubling put him put him in motion put him in position condense the space do something just to get him in a rhythm to get your offense going so on some of those even manageable downs, stop running the ball. Stop running the ball and find a way to hit the best play on offense. It just wasn't a good game for the Commanders after the third quarter. Yeah, and because they didn't get any separation, so now all of a sudden the touchdown puts them in the lead like what it did. It was, you know, the Eagles what Eagles missed two field goals.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And so now all of a sudden they get they make some field goals. And it's a 10-6 game. And where it should have had, you should have had more separation when you had some momentum. Now they score a touchdown. They go for two, try to make it 14-10. It's 12-10. OK, you fourth down. You don't convert.
Starting point is 00:13:03 You give the Eagles the ball. They go right back down the field and they score a touchdown. And guess what? You't convert. You give the Eagles the ball, they go right back down the field, and they score a touchdown. And guess what? You come out, you get the ball back, you throw a pick. And in two plays, Saquon hits his head on the goalpost. Well, now it's under five minutes to go in the ballgame. You got an uphill struggle because you haven't been explosive all night.
Starting point is 00:13:19 So now you got to nickel and dime your way down the field, which is going to take time off the clock. So what? When they scored, what did they have? Oh, Joe, like less than two minutes by the time they got the ball, less than two minutes. And so when they ended up scoring, it's 30 seconds on the clock. Yeah. Now you've got to hope you've got to get the onside kick
Starting point is 00:13:41 and you've got to score a touchdown and get a two point conversion all in 30 seconds you know what it shouldn't even come to that honestly it shouldn't come to that because you had three quarters where you actually were owning the game i hate i hate using that word you were owning the game you were having your offensively but you weren't putting up any points you weren't scoring no points. All those field goals that were missed, those field goals that were missed when you got the ball, you got to get points, you got to get six,
Starting point is 00:14:10 got to get three, got to get something, but you were getting nothing, and you got to the third quarter, your defense couldn't hold up no more. They did a good job holding Saquon, you know, the first and second quarter. Yeah, they did a great job of bottling him up. Yeah, it wasn't nothing like that, but here you
Starting point is 00:14:25 can't do it the whole game you got to put some points on the board and i'm i'm gonna keep saying it you got it you got to be able to take some shots and get your best offensive weapon in the game like man goddamn terry mclawn ran the goddamn boston marathon tonight man that wasn't nothing damn cardio. Ocho, we talk about this a lot. The momentum. When you got the momentum, how much separation can you put between you and the team? Because the momentum's going to swing. The likelihood of a team having momentum for the entirety of the game
Starting point is 00:14:57 is not very likely to happen. When the other team gets the momentum, how much separation have you put between yourself and them? Right. See what the Eagles did when they got the momentum, touchdown, touchdown,
Starting point is 00:15:09 touchdown, boom, game over. Yeah. Yeah. You had the momentum. You had seven points. You got a field goal.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Now to score the touchdown, touchdown in the field, go ties you to touchdown. Give, give them a lead. You see, you see the difference. That's what I tell them. When you get the momentum, touchdown, and the field goal ties you. Two touchdowns gives them a lead. You see the difference? That's what I tell them. When you get the momentum, hey, look,
Starting point is 00:15:30 if I know you're going to hit me in the head with a hammer and I got first swing, I'm trying to knock your head off. Oh, yeah. Because I already know what you're going to do to me. It's kind of like that power slap, Ojo. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. If you going first, you better lay his ass out.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah. Because when his turn come up, he going to lay your ass out. So that's the difference. When you have the momentum, you better put some distance between you because if you don't, when they get it, they're going to jet off from you. So, yeah, I think the thing is, like I said, Ocho, this was the worst I've seen Jaden Daniel plays. And maybe, you know, he was dealing with some type of injury.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Maybe he gets an opportunity they get 10 days so you get a lot uh a lot a longer break the typical week you know week you got you know what three extra days so you thirds it you get friday saturday sunday so you got three days and then the next week i don't know if they have a buy excuse me when did the uh uh when Excuse me, when is the bye? When is the commander's bye? Okay. Oh, thanks.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Next, or the following sunday following that's monday they play monday night when is the next game okay today is the 14th sunday so they play the following sunday week okay yeah so yeah um but look you go back and you look at some things oh you look at like hey guys we had an opportunity in this game we just get you got oh joe if you go on the road and you go three or twelve on third downs yeah you can't you know you can't win the ball game like that and you was in it late into the third quarter you were in this ball game as a matter of fact you were winning this ball game you weren't in it you were winning it yeah it late into the third quarter. You were in this ball game. As a matter of fact, you were winning this ball game. You weren't in it. You were winning it.
Starting point is 00:17:28 And, you know, the third down conversion, like I said, they have some third and very manageable. Because that's all you can really hope for. When you're on the road, Ocho, if I can keep it third and one to three, or, you know, five yards or less. Yeah, you love it. Yeah, because now I can run it. I can throw it.
Starting point is 00:17:43 You start getting third and nine third and eight third and twelve everybody know and their mama know you're gonna throw the ball but give the eagles credit after you know struggling a little bit early in the season they kind of picked it up they're playing extremely well right now i think they won what six in a row um eight and two four and one at home as they take a commanding lead in the NFC East with a great performance tonight. Saquon has been Saquon all year. I think it's universal, the two best backs in football right now. King Henry.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah, King Henry and Saquon, they're playing extremely well. I think Saquon took over the lead as far as rush with that 146 performance. We're going to see what King Henry can do, play the very tough rush defense of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I wouldn't be surprised that after Sunday, Saquon is still in the lead as far as rush yards.
Starting point is 00:18:35 That's what I'm saying, Ochoa. When you gave him, when you only give him 11 carries, you only give him a small amount of carries, and you end up losing the game in Cleveland. That'll be something we can discuss later, but anytime something interesting went viral today the nfl what if standing if all of the one position games were flipped uh cincinnati bingos would be number one they'd be eight and two the broncos also would be eight and2. The Jacksonville would be 7-3. Buffalo would be 6-4. The Chargers would be 7-2.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Baltimore would be 6-4. Steelers, 5-4, so forth and so on. Dang, Ocho? Yes, sir. Why y'all can't win no one possession games, man? Yeah, man, that's what it comes down to. That's all it comes down to. Sometimes it comes down to one possession.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And the funny thing about it, I think for those that I don't want to call those that are in the chat casual fans. I know the Eagles did not lose to the Cleveland Browns. I'm talking about the Baltimore Ravens. King Henry. Guys, will y'all listen? Y'all, I think y'all tune in to some of these shows just so y'all
Starting point is 00:19:41 can say, oh, you made a mistake. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. Baltimore Ravens lost to the Cleveland Browns. Ocho and I talked about them not giving King Henry enough carries. He only had 11, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:58 No, he had 16, but he was averaging six yards a carry. He averaged like he'd average like a, no, he averaged four and a half yards of carry right but i'm saying come on guys damn listen yeah shit listen what school y'all went to shit hey but but listen funny thing about it you got to think how many how many plays you run in the game what 60 67 average is about somewhere between 60 and 65 give or take you know you know, you get some penalties. They call a play Ocho, and it doesn't really count because you got a penalty.
Starting point is 00:20:29 But somewhere 60 to 65. If you're really cooking, you might get as many as 70 to 75. Let's say 70 to 75 if you're not cooking as much, 60 to 65. And the funny thing about it, out of all those plays, one to three of those plays make the difference in the game. Yes. One to three of those plays make the difference in the game. Yes. One to three of those plays make a difference in the game. That's how important it is. That's how it comes down to that one possession
Starting point is 00:20:51 making a difference and you actually having a winning record and you not. Eagles had 70 plays. Washington had 63. You see? 60 to 65, you cook a little bit, Ocho, you get many 70 75 making the most of your opportunities
Starting point is 00:21:08 you just go ahead Ocho what were you going to say it all comes down to making the most of your opportunities making the most of those plays that you do have yes and and Ocho it's a situation where when that play happens
Starting point is 00:21:24 because all plays aren't created equal. All penalties aren't created equal. You create a penalty and you got the ball and you back your team up. You create a penalty and you give a team a first down when you're trying to get the ball back. That's different than you committing a penalty in the first quarter or the second quarter. So all plays are like, well, no, no, no.
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Starting point is 00:26:34 And when you're not going to get an opportunity to get the ball back to do something about it. So all plays, you're absolutely right. It comes down to a handful of plays every game. And the team that executes the best in those situations, and that's why, look look as bad as we if patrick mahomes and patrick mahomes doesn't look like patrick mahomes and what we mean by that ocho we know at this point in time he's normally in the top three as far as touchdown passes he's not there now i think he has 12 touchdowns eight interceptions that's not patrick mahomes but in the one possession game when when he needs to be Patrick Mahomes that we all know and love, he's that guy.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Every time. Let me say one thing real quick. If we have any Eagles fans, I want you to understand how special Young Bull is, man. Keon Mitchell, real quick. I just want to go from week 1 to week 11. Who he's covered in the number of yards and catches each player's had week one against the Packers Keon Mitchell whoever the number one receiver is one reception six yards Drake London one reception five yards week three
Starting point is 00:27:38 Chris Olave two reception 23 yards Mike Evans two receptions 19 yards yards. Mike Evans, two receptions, 19 yards. Week six, Amari Cooper, one reception, 10 yards. Week seven, Malik Nabors, one reception, nine yards. My own, Bengals' own, legendary Jamar Chase, two catches for 19 yards. Against the Jaguars, whoever the number one is, had one catch for 11 yards. Week 10 against CeeDee Lamb, two catches for 14 yards. Week 11, Terry McLaurin, zero receptions for zero yards. Keion Mitchell, boy, if you see this, boy, you're the real deal, boy. And you're lucky I'm not playing no more.
Starting point is 00:28:12 But I salute you for what you're doing. Quinn Young. This is the legendary run for a rookie, boy. But, yeah, he's playing really good for a guy. What is he, a rookie, second-year player? Yeah. Man, he a rookie, boy. Young boy, a rookie, second-year player? Yeah, man, he a rookie, boy. Young boy, a rookie, man.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Shit, man. Hey, when I see stuff like that, that make me want to get out there. That make me want to get out. Man, what you trying to do? No. It makes me want to do get better at my job
Starting point is 00:28:38 so I can have something to do right here. Right here. I feel you, but when you see somebody putting up them kind of numbers against some of the best in today's game, I don't want to know what you're going to do against me.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Uh-uh. No, you had your turn. Let the bellboys have it. It's raining out there. It's cold out there. They're hitting out there. You ain't falling. When the last time you fell on the ground?
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yesterday. Yesterday. But see, listen, this is how I feel. When I see stuff like this right and i have an appreciation for superior db play this is superior db play we witnessing from young bull right so i like i'm thinking about myself and my prime so i want to see how you know he would match up against me so i i just i don't know it's a hypothetical it's just something that i always do i insert myself in today's game and today's era.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Just wondering how it would be if I was playing in this past happy era. Yeah, I think it's natural. I think the quarterbacks of yesterday, Danny and John and Montana and Young and all those guys think about, man, if we could play in this era where they couldn't attack the quarterback like they could when we played, like they have those rules where they protect the receivers like they didn't have when we played in our era,
Starting point is 00:29:52 the incidental contact, all that other stuff. Sure, it's just natural to see, man, I wonder what my numbers could have been. I don't know what my numbers could have been, but I know they'd been better than what I ended with. I don't know what they would have ended with, but I know they'd have been better than what I ended with. They most definitely would have been, but I know they'd been better than what I ended with. I don't know what they would have ended with, but I know they'd have been better than what I had.
Starting point is 00:30:06 They most definitely would have been better. I do know that. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, Chad, if any of y'all know Keon Mitchell, if you know his Instagrams, if you know his Twitter, please let him know in the offseason. I would like to get some one-on-ones just to see what that, I want to see what that worked like.
Starting point is 00:30:22 You feel me? And that's pretty much it. Lamar says he can't explain his one-in-three record versus the Steelers. just to see what that, I want to see what that worked like. You feel me? And that, that's pretty much it. Uh, Lamar says he can't explain his one to three record versus the Steelers heading into Sunday's road showdown against the Steelers. Lamar was asked why he struggles against the Pittsburgh more than any other team. I don't know what it is,
Starting point is 00:30:35 man. Last year we were supposed to, huh? Defense last year, but he's a two time MVP. Yeah. But you're going against the Steelers defense. I'm not calling this goddamn steel curtain, but he's a two-time MVP. Yeah, but you're going against the Steelers' defense. I'm not calling them this goddamn steel curtain,
Starting point is 00:30:47 but they play defense extremely well. Not only that, this is a divisional opponent. Every time you play a divisional opponent, they know all your tendencies. They know what's coming. So why he have such success against Cincinnati? Don't do that. The Bengals.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You ain't had to do that. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm just saying. He's 1-3 against the Steelers. He's 17-5 against everybody else. Yeah, you ain't had to do that, though. You ain't had to bring up the Bengals. You ain't had to take no shot
Starting point is 00:31:13 because we talk about the Bengals. I ain't taking no shot. You took a shot. The reporter asked him, why does he struggle against that team more so than any other team in the league? I told you. I told you i told you the defense the defense the difference is and you just said it just now the the steelers defense is very
Starting point is 00:31:31 very good they're very very good now the bagel defense you know i i don't mean no disrespect we are not what we should be to be able to compete with the ravens offensively and lamar jackson that goddamn running game that that that. That's the answer. Now, what team has the personnel to deal with Lamar Jackson and goddamn King Henry? The goddamn Steelers. Yeah. I think Highsmith is out. But you got T.J. Watt.
Starting point is 00:31:53 You know, you have a solid mid-level game. Goddamn Joy Porter Jr. playing goddamn good football. Man, shit, man. What more can you ask for? And then you got Mike Tomlin, the goddamn genius over there. He said, I don't know what it is, man. Last year, we were supposed to beat them, but things just didn't go our way.
Starting point is 00:32:14 The football gods weren't on our side, but it's a whole other year. It's a new year, and I'm looking forward to this game. Lamar's 1-3 against the Steelers. He's 17-5 against the other AFC North teams. Pittsburgh is the only team against which he's thrown more interceptions, seven, than he has touchdown passes, four.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah. Things might change. I think, obviously, out of all the games that are slated for Sunday, this might be the most interesting in the best game of the year. Outside of the Bills in Kansas City. Outside of the Bills in Kansas City, this might be the best game.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Well, look, I think people are looking forward to this. This game is a rivalry game. This is an opportunity for the division. I think the division lead will be on the line with this one. And so the Ravens would have the advantage because they beat the Steelers
Starting point is 00:33:04 head-to-head. Obviously, the Bills, we've seen these teams play so many times in the playoffs. I think Kansas City is 3-0 against them in the playoffs, but I think they've only won one regular season game against the Bills, and so that's the only thing that matters. The Bills in the regular season are 3-1 against the Chiefs. Yeah, but 0-3 in the postseason. That's the only thing that Patrick Mahomes caresills in the regular season are 3-1 against the Chiefs. Yeah. But 0-3 in the postseason.
Starting point is 00:33:26 That's the only thing that Patrick Mahomes cares about. If you look at Brady, there are a lot of guys that had winning records against Brady. Well, not a lot of guys because Brady didn't lose. No time. Regular season, postseason, preseason. That joker, man. I don't think
Starting point is 00:33:41 we're going to ever see anything like that. Not the amount of games that he played and relative to wins and losses ocho i don't think we're gonna see that again i don't i don't i honestly don't i mean you got to think about it the man had what they won the division damn near every year except the year he got hurt so we can't hold that against him but when he he played, they won the division, and they're going to win normally about 11 games. Even in a bad year, good year, they're going to win 14.
Starting point is 00:34:11 A bad year, they're going to win 11. And so he did that for damn near 20 years. Or my bad, for 23 years. Yeah, I don't think we're going to see. We're not going to see that again. It's like guys in baseball, when they won five guys, pitchers won. I don't know if we're going to see. We're not going to see that again. It's like guys in baseball when they won five guys pitchers won. I don't know if we're going to see another 300 game winner in baseball.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I know we ain't seeing no 400. That's what Walter Johnson did and Sandy Koufax. You're not seeing that. Guys winning 353 games. You're not going to see that anymore. Guys winning 200. I think Brady was damn near won 300 games. Ain't no NFL player winning 300 games games don't you it ain't it ain't gonna happen but uh i'm glad i got an
Starting point is 00:34:51 opportunity to see it i'm glad i'm old enough to see some of the greats um i remember when montana came into the league and got an opportunity to play when he was in the league and play with elway and marino and and uh steve young and a lot of these quarterbacks. But to see Peyton and hey, I was in the league when he was my Pro Bowl quarterback in 2001. Peyton Manning, Steve McNair. But it's always great to like you have a greater appreciation when you see what the game was and where it is and how it progressed. And to see the young guns come in. So it's always great. I'm glad you you say that i'm glad you just said that and i talk about
Starting point is 00:35:29 this all the time i have a a group chat with most of the bangles players that play with me in that 2005 season tj you know sean big willie cory dylan uh peter war and we talk about where the game is today and how the game was when we played and most of them taking a consideration that the game is today and how the game was when we played. And most of them taking into consideration that the game was a little bit more difficult during our era and the era before us, as opposed to how it is now. And today's era of football is they use the word for mental lack of better terms, a little,
Starting point is 00:35:59 a little watered down. Yeah. I don't know. It's not nearly as physical. We know that we understand. And the thing is, we understand why we understand the trauma, the thing is, we understand why. We understand the trauma,
Starting point is 00:36:07 the head trauma, the repeated trauma. And they're trying to make the game as safe as they possibly can. And I think we all want that. I know fans like this put flags on them. But guys, the league is not trying to get sued for billions and billions of dollars. You keep getting sued, your company goes bankrupt.
Starting point is 00:36:24 But this is what we need to say. This is what we need to say. We're trying to make the game safer, but on the backhand, we're just trying to make sure we can protect our ass so we don't get sued. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:33 But everybody knows, yes. But you know that. Everybody knows that. But in the process, look, it's an inherently dangerous game. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's an inherently dangerous game. We're trying, yeah. It's an inherently dangerous game.
Starting point is 00:36:45 We're trying to make the game as safe as possible. But in the process of making it safer, the physicality, a lot of the physicality has been legislated out of the game. Yeah. I don't have a problem with it. I'm glad it wasn't there when I was there
Starting point is 00:37:01 because the kickoff like that, how am I going to show you what I've done if I don't come down there and bust somebody's ass. Yeah. I'd be Ocho that, just standing still and let the guy catch the ball. And then I take off. No, I need to get ahead of steam. And run down there and try to peel somebody's cap.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I'm trying to split your dome. Yeah, split his dome up. Huh? Man. You got me hyped. You know, I used to be, I was the wedge buster. My rookie year. You ain't no wedge buster. You know, I used to be, I was the wedge buster. My rookie year. You ain't no wedge buster.
Starting point is 00:37:26 You too little. You ain't got no bricks in your back pocket to bust a wedge. Oh, ask Marvin. If you see Marvin, I was a wedge buster, huh? No. Because back then, you do realize they could have a three and a four man wedge. Yeah, and they used to link arms. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You wasn't a wedge buster. We played the Ravens, right? My rookie year. We played the Ravens, right? My rookie year. We played the Ravens, right? I was the wedge buster. I went down and Adelius Thomas. Remember Adelius Thomas? Yeah, I know AD. Yeah. They had Adelius Thomas in the wedge. Man, I ran right through him.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I don't know about that. I'm joking. Crack this face mask. We're going to have to find some footage of you b both being in the way. Hey, I can get the footage for your NFL films. You have to get that footage because
Starting point is 00:38:12 that wedge, I wanted no parts of the wedge. Let me play my three. Let me get on down there and protect the numbers. Ain't nothing coming up the numbers. I'm built different. I was a savage on the field you you wasn't built like you ain't got you you ain't got no bricks in your back pocket
Starting point is 00:38:31 it ain't about the bricks i got this right here huh i got this right here everybody got this oh cho why you think they took the wedge out because it didn't matter how much hard if you think about it you one man let's just say you 250 and they got a thousand pounds. What you going to do with that? But see, you got to be, listen, physics, baby. Physics. If it's four men, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Out of the four that's right there, there's always a weak link. You always pick on the weak link. If you get in jump, if you get in jump, you don't, you don't, you don't try to fight the swole, dude. You pick on the weak link and you swing on his ass first to set the tone. You do realize that. That's what I used to do with the wedge.
Starting point is 00:39:09 The weak link was the Darius Thomas. So I ran through him to let the rest of the motherfuckers know I ain't the one. Not the Darius. Guys, normally the wedge consisted of two D linemen and an offensive lineman
Starting point is 00:39:22 or two offensive linemen and a defensive lineman. Yeah. Like, man, that shit don't scare me. I don't care what position you play. You know what time it is when I'm on the field, though. Yeah, I know. Think about it, Ocho, how you ran into Ray and he spattered you and he wasn't looking.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Imagine when them Jokers looking at you. Don't do that. Don't do that, Unc. Don't do that. Now, the whole world saw me shoot. I tripped over my goddamn shoe lace, now. I don't care if you that there barefooted. Come on, man. Come on, now. Meanwhile, another day, another shocking story coming out of Commander Stadium.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Russell Wilson found a slithering surprise in his locker room before the team game against the commanders last sunday in the visiting locker room the steelers found a snake coming out of the bottom of russ locker before the game and had to deal with it eventually someone came in and handled it removing the snake from the locker room cam hayward said before the game i go out warm up come back in and i'm right right everybody was like a little bit shocked when i came in and i was like what's going on? There's a snake in our locker room. A snake? And it was coming from the bottom of Russ's locker.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Everybody was thrown for a loop. A snake in our locker room? Hey, y'all. Listen, we talking about, you know, at the stadium, you know, Pines Field. I'm thinking about the surroundings. No, that was in the Commander Stadium. Oh, the Commander Stadium?
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah. Somebody did that shit on purpose, huh? Somebody did it on purpose? Check this out, Ocho. It's just another day in the Northwest Stadium, which is one of the NFL's worst. Commander's owner, Josh Harris, said the team hopes to have a new stadium by 2030,
Starting point is 00:41:01 but the location of the new stadium is unknown. I think they were trying to get one in Virginia. I think they were trying to get one in Virginia. I think they were trying to go to the Virginia area. How far is that? Richmond is about, I think, 30, 40 miles. Oh, that's bad. That's bad.
Starting point is 00:41:17 The fans might complain. Because I think this is the land they're talking about. Where is this? How far is Richmond from? Yeah. Because I think if I'm not. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, Ocho, I know they have training camp. Right. If I'm not mistaken, joe i know they have training camp if i'm not mistaken in richmond
Starting point is 00:41:47 but i know they were they were trying to uh orfk and then the stadium that they build now it was named after i think the other one i forgot who owned it before uh daniel snyder purchased it uh but i think they were gonna try to go to to Northern Virginia or something I'm not really sure but I know there was you know I mean where you going to get land in DC right I mean that ain't bad so they moved it
Starting point is 00:42:16 they're in Ashburn now okay they were in Richmond right yeah they moved to Ashburn their new training facility is in Ashburn just opened this year and so you know they're trying to get a new facility. A lot of it used to be they pass a sales tax and they charge hotels X, Y, and Z. But a lot of the fans like, nah, we ain't taxing them no more. Y'all got billions and billions of dollars to build your own damn stadium.
Starting point is 00:42:40 We ain't putting the bill no more. So that's why he's like 2030 which is what 6 years from now yeah it's not called FedEx field it's not I'm sorry I know when you look I get it I remember it was ORFK
Starting point is 00:42:59 we played at ORFK that was back in the 90s and then FedEx field who owned it? What was the guy's name? Nah, Jack K. Cook, rest his soul. He owned it way back then. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Who did Dan Snyder buy it from? I forget the guy's name. He had some sons that ended up selling it. They bought it from Jack Hickok? Okay. Okay. But look, I think the Commandos are in great hands now.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Josh Harris and his team, they got the money. They're going to make the, you know, they just need to get that stint of Daniel Snyder up out of there. It was a cesspool. Now you got professionals running in the organization. You know, magic is a part of that. And so I'm excited to see what the commanders,
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Starting point is 00:48:55 We got to make the tackles. That's really it. We don't really need no presentation. I know where he's coming from. When did it? But us, as professional athletes, we got to be able to make tackles, me included. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:09 You had McBride stop. You swung him around. He got loose. He hurt another guy and went for another five, six yards. Here, I mean, look. Go ahead. For one, McBride doesn't get the credit he deserves. McBride might be top three tight end in the NFL right now.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Oh, he balling his ass off. That nobody's talking McBride might be top three tight end in the NFL right now. Oh, he balling his ass off. That nobody's talking about. He might be top three. No disrespect to Kelsey. No disrespect to Kittles. No disrespect to Mark Andrews. But McBride, he might be the best tight end in the NFL. Laporta at Detroit?
Starting point is 00:49:38 Huh? Laporta at Detroit? Remember you forgot about him? Hey, them boys, man. Listen, man. You got Ingram and Jacksonville. You got Likely, who's on the bench. He's not really on the bench.
Starting point is 00:49:49 But they started two tight ends. Yeah. Yeah. Look, Ocho. And I did a Marshawn Lynch podcast today, and we were talking about the tight end position. I think the thing is now, the only difference between me, the 90s,
Starting point is 00:50:03 when I first got into the league, and now there's more guys to do it with. Yes, sir. difference between me, the 90s, when I first got into the league, and now there's more guys to do it with. Yes, sir. Back then, there was only a handful of guys that can go get you a thousand yards. Myself, Ben Coates, Gonzo, Tony Gonzalez came in at like 96, 90, so basically like 99. He kind of got found his footing and did that. But like you mentioned, you mentioned the guys.
Starting point is 00:50:22 You mentioned McBride. You mentioned Kelsey. You mentioned Kittle. You mentioned Lap guys. You mentioned McBride. You mentioned Kelsey. You mentioned Kittle. You mentioned Laporta. You mentioned Hawkinson. Evan Ingram. Mark Andrews. Fryer moved. I mean, they got Goddard. They guys now
Starting point is 00:50:35 is just so many of them. They're so big and they're so athletic. I don't want to leave out Knox and Kincaid as well. Yeah, I want to leave them boys out now. They not, they nice. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. That goddamn McBride, man. I don't think because he's so far out West,
Starting point is 00:50:52 maybe because he plays for Arizona. Yep. He get the credit. He deserves as a, the other team that, that we always happen to see on TV constantly, but he makes, he making a name for herself.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Yeah. I like, I like that. Um, you know, they Tampa, I like that. You know, Tampa, I like K.Dotten. I've always liked K.Dotten ever since he was a rookie. But the guys are really good now, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Guys can make plays. Guys are athletic. They're big. All the guys, 6'3 to 6'5, somewhere around 245, 250, 255. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I love whether, hell, we left out Njoku. Njoku? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I love to see where the position
Starting point is 00:51:32 is heading. Cam Newton believes he's been erased and forgotten by the Panthers. I'm like, damn, I gave this city everything. He says he's not even in any pictures of him inside the stadium. Damn! They ain't got no pictures of my dog that's what he said i don't know i haven't been i haven't been to the stadium since i played in it i i don't uh i think i've been to the panther stadium maybe once um but i mean it's
Starting point is 00:51:59 sure for everything that he has done for that team obviously getting them to a super bowl him being an mvp at MVP at one point as well. I'm not sure where he is statistically when it comes to the quarterbacks that have played for the Panthers organization. But for what he has done and the legend that he is, I mean, I would think he would have
Starting point is 00:52:14 some type of memorabilia, pictures. Shit, hell, a goddamn statue. I think he also belongs in the Hall of Fame. I would think Cam is the Hall of Fame quarterback as well. I'm not sure if there was any type of riff with belongs in the Hall of Fame. I would think Cam is the Hall of Fame quarterback as well. I'm not sure if there was any type of rift with him and the owner, whoever. Obviously, Dave Tepper. If Dave Tepper is the owner, I'm not sure if there was any bad blood when Cam might have left.
Starting point is 00:52:35 But to me, me personally, watching Cam and what he's done throughout his career, Chad, I don't know how you guys feel about it. But I think he should be remembered as the legend that he is. And what he had done for that organization. Chad, what are your thoughts? Because Unc left, so it's just me and you guys right now. What do you think? Should Cam, what, ring of honor, name on the stadium? Maybe saying a statue outside, that might be a little too much because he wasn't able to win you know win them a championship but what cam has done his resume speaks for itself and um how he galvanized that that that that
Starting point is 00:53:10 stadium uh the kids the fans uh that community hell and that goddamn team for that matter what y'all think okay okay okay okay the chat agree with me yeah yeah the motherfucking chat agree with me i love y'all chat that's what i'm talking about yeah yeah yeah Ocho we lost Ocho you got me I'm right here I had lost connection yeah look Ocho
Starting point is 00:53:53 Cam is one of the two best players one of the three best players four best players so if you like Smitty you like Julius Peppers you like Luke Keekly Cam Newton Sam Mills those are your five best players I don't care to rank them
Starting point is 00:54:08 you can rank them wherever you want to right but those are your five best players and you talk about a franchise that's 30 years of age
Starting point is 00:54:15 so therefore I believe your five best players they should always have a montage on somewhere when you walk into the stadium
Starting point is 00:54:23 when you walk into the facility, those five players should be always present. Yeah. Yeah. And most definitely your quarterback. Most definitely your quarterback. So, um...
Starting point is 00:54:42 So, like I said... You forgot... that's six players you forgot McCaffrey well I just don't think he played long yeah he's one of the best players you put it
Starting point is 00:54:51 but you forgot Thomas Davis Julius Peppers yeah is in the Hall of Fame Luke Keekly is going to the Hall of Fame yeah
Starting point is 00:55:01 Steve Smith is going to be in the Hall of Fame yeah Cam and Sam Mills I think Sam Mills is in the Pro the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Steve Smith is going to be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Cam and Sam Mills. I think Sam Mills is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Okay. So I believe those are
Starting point is 00:55:12 your five best players. Right. In Carolina football, in the very short history of the Carolina Panthers. Now you can rank them. You can say Cam is this one or Julius Peppers
Starting point is 00:55:22 or Keekly or Smitty, whatever the case may be. Because all those guys played, youppers or Keekly or Smitty whatever the case may be because all those guys played you know Keekly retired early because the trauma he's like nah I'm done with this I want to be you know hey I want to be a normal functioning human as I
Starting point is 00:55:36 start to get into my mid 30s 40s so forth and so on we know what Pepp is we know we know what Pepp is we know what Smitty was, but Cam Cam kind of put him on the map, man. Yeah. Cam was
Starting point is 00:55:52 him. Cam was him. Smitty, look. Smitty what Smitty did with he and Jake DeLong? Yeah. Smitty was that dude. Smitty was that dude. Yeah, smitty was a nice name man please remember him and him and musim musim bahami yeah yeah they were nice oh they did they did a number man hey
Starting point is 00:56:13 um it it did like i said i i look i don't know the history i don't know what temper is i don't know why hey look i remember when when uh josh McDaniels, when he went back to Denver, he took everything down. He took everybody, all the fans. My pictures, Elway, TD, he take all of it down in the facility. Yeah. What the hell? We starting over.
Starting point is 00:56:42 It's a new day. Bruh, stop. Get your ass up out of here talk about a new day we legends yeah what the hell you talking about just cause you take the pictures down they not gonna forget us
Starting point is 00:56:54 nah never that I don't know what you thought hey bro please yeah take a look yeah pussy I said bro I don't know what pussy. I said, bro, I don't know what you thought. I said, bro, do you understand
Starting point is 00:57:09 what John Elway means in that building? Do you understand what TD, myself, got? Hey, bro. Hold on. Not just in the building, outside the building. Yes! And a lot of people that worked with us in those
Starting point is 00:57:27 Super Bowl eras, they were still there. Yeah. They're like, what are you hoping to accomplish? That'll be like somebody coming in and they taking down Gronk's picture, they taking down Brady's picture, or you go to the Steelers and ain't no Bradshaw in the building. Ain't no Mingo. Ain't no Franco. Ain't no Ham, Lambert, Mel Blanc. What?
Starting point is 00:57:51 Swans, come on, bro. Tripping, man. You can try to start a new path. Okay, granted, I understand. But there are certain guys in a building that they ain't going nowhere. They're going to always be the people that are going to remember them forever because of what they accomplished.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Legacy being cemented is what that means. Legacy being cemented. Bro. I didn't know. Obviously I had people that were working there. There's like, man, shut up.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I hate it here. I was like, well, they say he was awful. He was awful because he didn't know how to talk to people. All he knew how to do was yell, scream, and curse. Oh, he one of those? Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Because he tried to do everything like Coach Belichick. Yeah, yeah. Bill ain't play that shit, boy. But Bill had the resume to pull that shit off. You hear me? Yes, yes. There's a reason why not a whole lot of Coach Belichick disciples aren't successful. You know why? Because they don't
Starting point is 00:58:51 have their own personality. They try to do everything like him because he suppressed their personality for so long they adopted his. But that's not them. Not at all. Not at all. But I feel bad for Cam but I feel bad for Cam.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I feel bad for Cam. Now, I don't know how he got treated when he went back. I know the love and adoration that we get when we go back to the building. We go to the facility or we go to the arena. We're given love and respect. So, I don't know how Cam was treated if he went to the facility. I don't know how many of those people who were there,
Starting point is 00:59:27 but they know who Cam Newton is. They know what he means to that organization. But, you know, every... How do you treat him when you go back to Denver? Really? Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Come on, Shane. Talk to me. Hey, but listen. How do they treat me when I go back to Denver? You hear me? Oh, I don't care. Anything. There's not anything. If I cause aid, I need some shoulder pads.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I'm going to have shoulder pads in two days. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Listen. When I go back to Cincinnati, you know what I'm saying? Boy, I would never want for nothing in that city you hear me no
Starting point is 01:00:10 I would never want for nothing in that city Mike Brown Katie Troy this is how much they like me oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I like
Starting point is 01:00:19 I like that I like that I like that I like that that's my lock that's my nameplate hey uh Subot 50 33 32 I like that. That's my lock. That's my nameplate. Hey,
Starting point is 01:00:26 on. 33, 32, 5,280 feet above sea level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, these are the logos. I think they stick stickers. Yeah, I see you. Okay. Nah, they, hey, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Look, and I've only met the Walton Penner family that runs the Broncos. Mr. Bolin, his estate ended up selling it. But when I would go back prior to Mr. Bolin, he had dementia and stuff and he went away and someone else ran it for him. But Ellis
Starting point is 01:01:18 ran it. But they were great to me. Mr. B told me, said, look, I say, well, he's like, you come back anytime you want to. I said, well me Mr. B told me, said look I said, well, you know, he's like you come back anytime you want to I said, well, Mr. B, I ain't got no nameplate, I ain't got no, he said your face that's your ID
Starting point is 01:01:35 he said, you will never have to worry about anything, any game you want to come to, home or road you my guest that's how they treat you boy that's how they treat you boy any game you want to come to home or road you my guest that's how they treat you boy that's how they treat you boy
Starting point is 01:01:49 I went to the Super Bowl I had four people in a suite that seat 16 and food it was me, Ray Crockett and I think one other person I'm like what the hell if I do we gonna have a whole week.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Hell, I don't know about seven, eight more people. Yeah. It's a good day. Super Bowl in New York. It was like four of us in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Look, I think it'll be the same thing with the Walton Pinter family. Look, I stay out of their way. I don B took Mr. B. Look, I think it'd be the same thing with the Walton Penner family. I don't you know, look, I stay out of the way. I don't bother nobody. I don't really ask for anything occasionally. But I pay for stuff now. If I need tickets, somebody like, hey, man, can you get me tickets? I call the ticket people. I'll just pay for the tickets. Same thing with the Ravens. The Ravens are good to me. Hey, Ozzie. I'm good. That's one thing about the Ravens. I mean, some of the fans don't think thing with the Ravens. The Ravens are good to me. Hey, Ozzie, I'm good. That's one thing about the Ravens. Some of the fans don't think I like the Ravens, but
Starting point is 01:02:49 I know when I go back into that building, I know how they treat me. I know how Steve Bichotte treats me. I know how Ozzie and Eric DaCosta and all those guys. A lot of people are not there because they kind of aged out on show, but I know how they treat me. I know how I haven't been in a long time, but they know the players.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I know how they respect me and they still got pictures of me up in the building. Yeah, I got I got pictures, too. I got pictures, too. Hey, but you know what? You know what I don't do? Which is funny is most of the time you would think, you know, obviously when you're so far removed from the game, but the love is still there. It's still there, man. It's still there. The fans, the people in the city in general, I can go anywhere and I don't want for nothing.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I could take advantage of going to the games and, you know, getting tickets, but I just go to one game a year. That's it. I go to one game a year. I pay for all the tickets now, Ocho. Anything they need from me they know I'm there they know
Starting point is 01:03:46 and they still allow me to be incorporated not in just the team but some of the stuff that they have going on some of the engagement with the fans they still allow me
Starting point is 01:03:53 to be a part of that man it's just a good feeling man it's just a good feeling to have to get your flowers to get your flowers when you really have no value anymore
Starting point is 01:04:02 outside of what you did for them back in the day and the fact that they still remember that and the fans still appreciate that to this day, man, it's a dope feeling. That's all you want. Three things early
Starting point is 01:04:14 on that I knew. I wanted my teammates' respect. I wanted my coaches' trust. I wanted the fans' appreciation. Yeah. Yeah. I tell you what, there's not a fan that ever watched me play in Denver or Baltimore. Thought, man, man, he, he loafing. He bulljabbing.
Starting point is 01:04:30 They know I gave it everything. Every, every Sunday, every Monday. Yeah. They know they got the best out of 84 and 82. Oh yeah. And at the end of the day, that's all, that's all, that's all the fans want. They want you to know that they're paying their hard-earned money to see you, and they want you to give it all.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I'm sorry to hear that, Cam. You were going to get that. You were going to get some goddamn entertainment, huh? You better be ready to laugh. For sure. For sure. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, he hopes to
Starting point is 01:05:02 expand the regular season to 18 games within the five years. We hope to be at 16 international games within five years, Goodell said today. Goodell confirmed that expanding to 16 international games will require increasing the regular season to 18 games. We're looking to change our format to 17 in three format or to maybe 18 regular season games, two preseason games that will open up more inventory to allow us to play more globally. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:31 I like it. I like it. Listen, with the way the rules are set up right now, with the way the rules are set up right now and allowing players to recover, they don't practice as much as they used to as opposed to when we were playing, they don't have two days.
Starting point is 01:05:44 The nutrition, the facilities, everything has been heightened. Everything is more advanced now. So adding whatever plan it is that he wants to do, I'm all for it. I think the players are also for it because now the more games you add, come on, talk to me, man. At the end of the day, if it makes dollars, it makes sense. And the players understand what comes with that you know and probably you'll probably add another bye week too oh yeah you
Starting point is 01:06:10 gotta have two bye weeks you absolutely have to have two bye weeks so i think oh so you're gonna be playing damn good football damn good and say patty's day yeah yeah because if you have two bye weeks oh joe well no it all depends are we going so either you move the season up or you push it back because if you're only going to play two preseason games does that mean you come to camp at the same time and play those two preseason games and now you're playing football in august or do you put or do you stay on the same schedule you come you come in to camp later play those two preseason games still start after labor day and now you realize with two bye weeks you put a with extra bye week now you're playing the second week of february now you're at the third week
Starting point is 01:06:55 yeah well listen those are things that that they're going to have to work on i think from a player standpoint with the way the rules are uh with the practice, a little bit more lenient, a little bit more player friendly as far as rest is concerned. And I like it. There's nothing I can say. You know, from a negative standpoint, that's pretty much it. I like it. The thing is, though, the record, is the Ocho, because you're adding two games. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:28 So now the receiver record, the touchdown record, the yardage record. Everything should have an asterisk by it. Everything should have an asterisk by it at this point. Because, I mean, 18 games, Ocho. Now somebody's really going to get 2,000 yards receiving. Yeah. Cause I mean, 18 games,
Starting point is 01:07:45 Ocho, somebody, I mean, now somebody is really going to get 2000 yards receiving. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's a possibility,
Starting point is 01:07:57 but that's the only way Ocho you can increase revenue. You've got, because what you, I mean, what are you going to do? You've got to have more games. The networks pay for more games. That's the only way you can increase revenue. Whatever else you can do it
Starting point is 01:08:09 is by games. I mean, now, do you add another playoff team? Maybe. Maybe. It all makes sense. It all makes sense because it makes money at the end of the day. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,
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Starting point is 01:13:12 during the draft process if the wrong team drafted Shador. Time said, yeah, but I'm not going to do it publicly. I'll do it privately. I'm going to be a dad until the cows come home. And that's with Travis as well. Ocho, you like that?
Starting point is 01:13:28 Yeah, yeah, most definitely. Most definitely Archie Manning was able to do it. You know, there are very few people that are in positions to be able to make this kind of call. I think it's very important for the growth and maturity and success of Shador to go to the right team, go to the right situation, it's very important. It's imperative that he does. And Prime is going to see that
Starting point is 01:13:53 when it comes to Travis Hunter. That motherfucker can go any goddamn where. He's going to make a splash. He can go any goddamn where. He can play on all 32 teams. Hell, he can play on a 33rd team. It ain't even one. It ain't even one yet. Yeah, and it ain't even one. And he can play on all 32 teams hell he could play on a 33rd team it ain't even
Starting point is 01:14:05 it ain't even one it ain't one yet yeah and it ain't even one and he can be successful but for the quarterback position is very very very important and it's imperative that prime is there doing this entire journey for him in the transition from college to whatever team he does from college from to whatever nfl team he goes to very very important very important yeah i like it hey that shit can ruin you boy oh for sure you go to the wrong you go to the wrong situation huh man especially it's hard to recover the quarterback position don't you yeah man especially the quarterback position because the corner you can kind of do your own thing look time was still time even atlanta and they wouldn't win in no games oh yeah he was still prime time oh yeah you still showed him he was still box office to see yeah oh yeah quarterback
Starting point is 01:14:56 go to the wrong situation you get hell beat out you and now all of a sudden people talk about you a bus yeah yeah and a lot of it's not where you go i mean look obviously you want to go high but i want to go to the right situation so if that means instead of going one two i go three and i go to an ideal situation right with somebody that has an offensive i'm a quarterback i need offensive i need somebody on the office at least my coordinator he needs to know what the hell he's doing even Even if you give me a defensive-minded coach, like the commanders, but they got Cliff Kingsbury,
Starting point is 01:15:30 who's very imaginative, what you need in today's game. You can't have these archaic schemes because the game is so much more sophisticated now. But also, more importantly, wherever he does go,
Starting point is 01:15:47 having a great offensive coordinator, but there's no point in having a great offensive coordinator and having a great quarterback like Shador coming out of college, being able to do and have the specific skills that he does have, you have to be sure he has the pieces around him. You got to get the
Starting point is 01:16:01 motherfuckers in the building. That's the only way it's going to work. What? Oh, Joe, you look, you know. When you go high, you go into a crappy situation. Yeah. You can't win the Super Bowl and be picking first. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:17 You don't say you're the Lakers. The Lakers won the title and then got James Worthy the next year. How is that fair? Yeah. Not at all. You ain't going to have to worry about that in football. That ain't happening. Alright, let's take a look at this right now. So right now, based on the records right now, who would be
Starting point is 01:16:33 picking first in the NFL? Jacksonville. Okay, who would be second? Giants. God damn it. I like that. I wonder howants. God damn it. I like that. I wonder how Prime would feel about it. Matter of fact, I get to Colorado in the morning.
Starting point is 01:16:51 I'm going to ask Prime myself. Matter of fact, I'm going to pretend I'm a reporter. Prime, how do you feel about your door going to the New York Giants? You got Malik neighbors. They're probably going to clean house. I'm not sure the ball would probably be there. Oh, they're cleaning house. They ball.
Starting point is 01:17:04 But the question is, forget Malik neighborsik neighbors who's gonna be the coach who's gonna be the coordinator i can tell you who's gonna be the coach let me tell you who i work with him every wednesday on inside the nfl he does have uh uh coach belichick he does he loved the mara family he was the d coordinator there see see? See what I'm talking about? Now that's breaking news. Now that's breaking news. So when Bill Belichick is the head coach for the New York Giants and Shador Sander
Starting point is 01:17:34 goes second to the New York Giants, you heard it here first. Mel Kiper, eat your heart out. Huh? Mel Kiper break down college players coming into the league you don't
Starting point is 01:17:47 you talking about Adam Schefter oh well Schefter too and Louis Reddick I said it first make sure make a chat
Starting point is 01:17:53 make sure I get the credit that ain't what Sweet Lou does either Sweet Lou I'm just naming some of the people that I admire that's all
Starting point is 01:18:01 yeah also it seems that Bryce Underwood won't be tempted by the massive NIL offer from Michigan. On 3 reported that the Wolverines are prepared to offer the elite quarterback
Starting point is 01:18:12 recruit four years, $10.5 million NIL deal in hopes of flipping his current commitment to LSU. Underwood posted on Instagram stories seemingly confirming he will decline the offer. Oh, he's going to decline the offer to go to LSU, so I'm assuming
Starting point is 01:18:27 LSU must be paying him a bigger bag than what Michigan is offering. If I was Underwood, I would decline the LSU offer and take my ass to Colorado. How about that? Take them apples. Man, look here, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:18:43 A lot of these kids come from situations man look here we talking about last night 375 changing somebody's life what the hell is 10.5 oh yeah oh yeah and I forgot to tell you
Starting point is 01:18:59 most of the people 98% of the people agree with me that $375,000 is a lot of money. It's life-changing money. Ocho. Hey, we don't got to touch it again. I just want to throw that out there. But see, I think the chap missed the point.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I didn't say it wasn't a lot of money. I say, but for that $375,000 to last you a lifetime, people say, well, people don't work, only make $20,000. Yeah. And what do y'all say? You're struggling. So imagine you have to spend
Starting point is 01:19:31 for your lifetime. I said the lifetime and you cannot work. I'm not saying somebody gave you a lifetime. You can't be saying they can't work now. The man got to have a job. That's what I said. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. You said he could live. You said hey, man, 375. I could live off 375.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Okay, see, that's not fair. You can't take the scenario and make it your own. He on the run. You make it seem like he could just go in there and slap his ID down. Hey, let me get a job. Here's my social security number. Here's my ID from
Starting point is 01:20:03 the States. He can't do that. He got to lay low. He's going to have to go find a job. Here's my social security number. Here's my ID from the States. He can't do that. He got to lay low. He's going to have to go find a job that pays him cash only. And they don't give a damn because here's the thing, Ocho, when you spend your money, people are going to wonder why. Man, why did you keep coming in here in Eastern Europe with American money? I guarantee you, you let show up in miami and they go to the store and every time they showing up with a a different currency yeah people get some speak first of all people know this hell anyway they're like what the hell is american living in the middle of eastern europe yeah yeah yeah but yeah yes 375
Starting point is 01:20:45 375,000 is a lot of money yeah if somebody gave you that and you were able to get a job let's just say you made 20,000 25,000 yeah now you put 10,000 with that you're straight you're Gucci good I'm good but
Starting point is 01:21:01 you think about it Ocho if you make 20,000 a year and you got that 375 gotta last you a lifetime Yeah, good. I'm good. But you think about it, Ocho. If you make $20,000 a year and that $375,000 got to last you a lifetime, that's only going to last you 19 years. Hey, it's all on your financial discipline, baby. It's all on your financial discipline. You got to make the right decision.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Now, that's very difficult for some people. You got to eat. You got to sleep. You got to make the right decision. Now, that's very difficult for some people. You got to eat. You got to sleep. You got to buy clothes. What you going to be? You going to be the Beverly Hills Billy? You going to be Jethro Bodine? Shit, that's what I look like right now. Have a rope around your waist for a belt?
Starting point is 01:21:36 Or a shoelace? Yeah. Yeah, this joke. Let me tell you, I don't know if you yeah this joke man they got but Ocho let me tell you I don't know if you know but insurance company
Starting point is 01:21:49 first of all they don't want to pay out their damn money anyway right and they know you because think about it they already pinpointed that he's somewhere
Starting point is 01:21:55 in Eastern Europe so they already got they already like hey they gonna get that money mm-hmm oh yeah you done scammed them too
Starting point is 01:22:03 oh they gonna get that money yeah and then and guess what think about all the people hey you know what money? Oh yeah. You done scammed them too? Oh, they gonna get that money. And guess what? Think about all the people. Hey, you know what? FBI, he wanted. Man, I think I saw that guy. I think he the guy that work at the shop. Yeah. And guess what? Somebody gonna
Starting point is 01:22:19 turn his ass in on you for $25,000. $50,000. More definitely. Better than me. I'd be like Leonardo DiCaprio and catch me if you can. Frank Abagnale. I'm going to keep it moving. That's it. $10.5
Starting point is 01:22:37 million is an 18-year-old. That's life-changing money. Yeah, it is. That's more than life-changing money. Oh, $10.5 billion for hell yeah well 10.5 billion is life changing money for anybody that's not a multi-millionaire to the average
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