Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Fernando Mendoza HEISMAN MOMENT in National CHAMPIONSHIP + Bills FIRE Head Coach Sean McDermott + Titians HIRE Robert Saleh as Head Coach

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Indiana Hoosiers winning the National Championship by beating the Miami Hurricanes in a thriller of a game, the Buffalo Bills have fired Sean McDermott, and the Tennessee Titans have hired Robert Saleh as their new head coach and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 5:11 - Indiana beats Miami30:56 - Bills fire Sean McDermott47:10 - Robert Saleh to the Titans (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Come on, now. Oucho. You do know my daughter got a doctorate degree from Indiana, right? Oh, but your daughter, your daughter deserves the right to wear the shirt, not you? Why were you rooting for Miami? You didn't go to Miami. I was born in Miami. That's the only reason I was rooting for.

My daughter. So, hold on. You to play for the hurricanes. I said I was born. in Miami. Okay, my daughter, my money went to IU. Okay, I like that, I like that. I like that. Okay, okay. Oh, yours.

Okay, okay. You know, that was a good game though. That was a good game, very good game. Hey, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. The playoffs, most of the time, we argue and we fussed about the teams that made the playoffs, but when it got down to the nitty gritty in the championship game, the two right teams were there. Yes. The two white teams were there because this game was very, very good tonight.

I would have loved for you to do a little bit more offensively, especially in the first half. But I'm going to let you do the before we talk about it. I'm going to let you go. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the very, very exciting national championship game. The Indiana Hoosiers stand atop of the mountain. A perfect 16 and no record. They take down the hurricanes by the score of 27 to 21. One of the great. college turnarounds in college history. I don't know if we've had a better story than what we have tonight.

A team that's been a predominant body feeder for the better part of 100 years. And here they are kings of college football. Y'all know who I am. I am your favorite uncle. That is my partner and co-host, the one that's very disappointed. He's been losing a lot to me lately.

I can't wait to y'all see that video that we got coming out in a couple of weeks. By bad, by bad, Ocho, we ain't gonna talk about that. We ain't gonna talk about that. The Liberty City legend, he was born in Miami. He was rooting for the Cains. He's a little disappointed right now, but you know what? He could, he should not

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That link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday night, February the 5th, at the Earps Theater in San Francisco. Be there. You don't want to miss this one. The Indiana Hoosio, they did it. They won the national championship. My cousin, who got that pick, Ocho? My cousin, Jambari Sharp.

And you don't know him, man. Now he ain't my cousin. Now he ain't my cousin. You ain't no kin to him. You know, we, hey, that where you from, then? Where are you from? He's a sharp. That's all you need to know.

Hey, he, actually, he's from Miami. He from, he from down here. I got some relatives down there. No, you don't. I know I got relative down there. Down there and Cocoa Beach. Oh, down there, yeah, down there, Coco Beach, yeah.

Coco Beach. Yeah. Ain't none of us down in O'Coco Beach. Whoa, whoa, y'all, hold on. It ain't like y'all inhabited like y'all landed on Miami. The Johnson's, well, so now you, not all y'all Johnson's in Miami. Yeah, listen, Flowers, Johnson, Rose, Franklin. Yeah, we dominate down here in the side, in Miami.

A matter of fact, I might be wrong. I'm asking probably to check that. I think he is from Florida. Ask him you could check that. You got a fact check before people jump on top of my head now. No, Jamari Sharp. Jamari Sharp. I think he is. Jamari Sharp, he undercut a deep right.

I don't know. I don't know if Beck was thinking he was going to back shoulder him or what because the receiver. By that last play? Yeah. You came back shoulder that in the safety roll. In the middle of the field, you got to be, that's got to be a sideline throw. That's, he got to let that go.

He got to let it go. Oh, he went to my, he went to Northwest and he is from Miami. And he, he went to school with it. He went, that's Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah. I knew him from the career. But they won a national championship. after what we thought, many thought was a Cinderella season last year.

They won up last year. They won up the first team. Aren't they the first team to go a perfect 16 and no? No team has ever won 16 games. I think the most was 15. Clemson won 15 and I think LSU won 15. But now you got the college football playoffs. Now, plus they won the Big Ten championship and they won three games in the college

in the playoffs. Now here we are, we have a team that's won 16 games. That's crazy. Kurt Signetti, take a bow. What you've been able to do with this program in a short span of two years? Yes. Nobody can boast what they've done.

Look, I understand that there have been some progress of turnarounds, but not like this, Ocho. No, not that fast. Let's talk about the game and we'll talk about the program. But let me get Mendelza's stay. Mendoza was 16 of 27, 186. Kailun Black was 17 or 79. Roman Henry was 19 of 60,

so they ran the ball 43 times. for a buck 32. Carson Beck was 19 to 32, 232, one touchdown, one in the session. Mark Pletcher Jr. continued his heart, a hot streak. 17 carries a buck 12 and two touchdowns. He took off that long 57-yard run

to get him back in the game. Malacotoni, 10 catches, a buck 22, and a touchdown. Let's take Indiana first and then we'll talk about Miami. Hey. Go ahead, take it away. Go ahead. That goddamn, listen, Unk, Fernando Mendoza, I had an opportunity to see him in high school down here at Columbus High School.

He was good. I didn't know he would turn out to be what he is now. Cuban American, obviously his parents are from Cuba, his grandparents are from Cuba. And I'm not sure. Obviously, he would be the first Heistman winner to be Cuban American born, right? No. Yes. He would be the first Cuban quarterback to actually win also a national championship.

I mean, he put that team on his back, Unk. When they had to have it, that fought down. That was four down where he, that quarterback sneak? Yes, quarterback draw. How in the hell who called? You're talking about a ballsy call? That's signet.

Hey, listen, that's the one thing you don't expect with as far as they have to go to score. I wouldn't expectant that. Oh, Joe, it's fourth and five. You're not even expecting them to go for it. My point is. Let alone the play that they call.

Listen, listen, that was a great play, Mendoza right there. When he got that ball and took off, that moment in his effort to make sure I'm going to score by any means necessary

and jumping and diving and just, you know, putting his body his self in harm's way putting the ball in harm's way just to get that touchdown that lets you know how much this game meant to him

to ensure that they did win the game. Oh, Joe, when you, and I tweeted, I said, that call, forget, okay, you go for it on fourth down and you're in a dog fight and you know you really haven't been able to stop Miami in the second half so you know you're in a dog fight and points it at a premium

so the mere fact that he went for it and then the play that he called to go to get it I say man signet a siggs walking around with with pumpkins heavy heavy that's slightly disrespectful as good as as good as the hurricane defense played tonight obviously they were a bit but don't break defense you're going to make some play obviously in the air on the ground you're gonna you're gonna have some plays but to call that on fourth and four fourth and five and expect to get it as especially with that with that with that front four i mean come on man that that was a great call that was a gutsy call very very gutsy

uh uh oh cho for this the distance for me it was the distance fourth and one oh joe i get it i get it yes we we you i think you i think you and I agree with you to that fourth and one. Yes. Oh Joe, that's fourth and five. Fourth and five. And then the play in which he called, nobody saw this coming because you're like,

hey, this ain't no running down. And then for him, he breaks the tackle. He runs into another guy. Now he's got the first out at that point. He said, but I ain't satisfied. I'm greedy. I'm gonna get sweepstakes. I've already got the first.

Let me, and he lays out, he knows he's gonna take it. And then he brings back in, he takes the shot in the back. That was a hell of a call. Very. I don't want to be a coach, but I just know this. I ain't going for it on no fourth and five in that situation.

I'm taking that damn field goal. I'm just being honest. I'm taking the field goal. And I think a lot of other people would have taken the field goal on fourth and five. And I'm going to trust my defense. My defense is played well all night. I'm going to trust my defense and let them and let them finish the game off. But man, that was nice.

Mendoza played really well. God damn. Cooper was balled. He had five for 71. Malachi, Tony, did what he could offensively. They kind of kept him bottled up, especially in the first half. He got alive and they put Malachi in position to make some plays in the second half, but it wasn't enough.

Carson, back on that throw, I wish he would let it out, let it go. You got to let it go. Let it out there. It was almost like a cover two look in a sense. The corner stayed outside. knowing he had help on the inside. So the receiver was kind of sandwich. He was kind of sandwiched in a sense.

I'm not sure why Beck chose to go that way. And it's got to be one of those right. It's got to be over here because that safety is coming now. Oh, yeah, he's coming. Yeah. Now, he's coming because if you just throw it in the line in which he's on, it's going to be a collision and he's going to have to hold on to it. I would have preferred, like you said, lead him, but I would lead him over here.

Because if I leave, leave it right here, that safety is going to bust his head. And the simple fact, the DB was very smart. The DB was very smart on that. At the snap of the ball, he purposely used the sideline as his friend and widen all the way out so the receiver had no choice but to go inside. But release inside, yes. So the receiver reached inside, and it made it, it put, they put the goddamn safety right in position where he wanted to be.

The only way the receiver had a chance to make a play is the vet let that thing go all the way out there. Like, similar to it like a Randy Moss, Tom Brady to Raney Moss type throat. I'm letting them as far as I can. And knowing what they do, we threw the go ball 42 and four. The ball was 42 yards, yards, four yards.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all had the red line back in. I don't know until some people, some people is 44 and three. I don't know, but I'm just saying the way we did it, it's 42 and four. It's the same. 42 yards deep, four yards.

Is that the way? Yeah. Yeah, it's the same. It's the same. Y'all had the red line too back then? Yeah. Y'all had the red line on? What did you say, Ocho?

Y'all had the red line. You know, we had the red line painted on the practice field to let the receivers know the state that when you stack, you want to stack and stay on that red line, which was four yards from the sideline. Ocho, I don't care where you release. You can release it in there by the center. All I know is when that, when that, when the ball,

John's going to let the ball go. It's going to be 42 and four. Yeah. So if you want to release. inside if you want to run a shallow cross and then get back out there i don't care mike didn't care mike say you can release inside you take the best release but at the end of the day i need you 42 and 4 and like you said a job immediately if i get you i'm stacking you i'm not just going to run and then hope no no no no i'm will stack your ass because now i can't have john to always have to

make a perfect throw because if you don't stack him and you let that guy be in his hip there's only one place John Cthorida is going to probably be a completion and it's over here. Over here. Because if he put it like here, he's going to chop. Yeah. So I want him, and kind of like what Marvin Mills did, I'm going to, and if I have to slow down, you're going to have to come through me to get this ball. Yeah.

Uh, Ocho, I thought they let him play tonight, man, Miami was real handsy. Oh yeah. They were, they let a play. Hey, listen, did they, I don't think they called a PI the whole night. No, no, they missed something. Listen, they played it fair though. They played it fair. Now only did they let him play, they were very handy.

And obviously I see that as that as a part of football. So they were handsy, but none of the handsiness impeded the receiver and being able to make a play. The time. Well, I thought of some of those stop raps, I was like, oh, my goodness. Hey, hold on, hold on. Did you see at the beginning of the game, number five for Indiana? Yeah, a pond. Boy.

But hey, he nice. Oh, yeah, he quick. And he's very Denzo-Ward-like. Yeah, he's quick. He got quick feet. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't able to watch them the whole game, but just this technique and what he was able to do

in that first play, I was like, okay, they got some out there. I say, it's going to be a long night in the passing game. And I don't have the stats in front of me, but if you look at how many yards, the goddamn hurricanes had at halftime, I understood it was going to be a long goddamn day. Yeah, I mean, they gave up a block putt for a touchdown.

You let them convert. I think they converted, let me see. I know they, I think they conferred it two fourth downs on that one drive. Now, I'm not sure how. And I think, didn't that say that was the first time they had gone for the fourth down

in the college football playoffs. So in three games, just about everybody else was going for it on fourth down. They've been so efficient. They didn't need to. They were picking and getting everything they needed on first, second, and third down. Three of 11, okay.

IU went for two, they're two for two on fourth down. Indiana, you know, I'm excuse me, UM, three of 11 on third down, oh, Joe. That didn't help. IU was six or 15. They're normally a lot better than that. Penalty seven for 65,

38, one turnover. And Indiana dominated time of possession, over 36 minutes to a little under 24 minutes for the, for the Keynes. But when you look at what Signate has been able to do, he came from, if I'm not mistaken, he was on the staff with,

you remember the Ocho, he was on the staff with Coach Sabin. He was in Alabama too? Yes. And everybody come from up under that tree always has success wherever they go. Larry Kiffin, uh, Loxley, uh, Dan Lanyne. Uh, Ocho, when you see that, when you see his tree, ain't nobody in college football has ever had a tree like Nick, like coach Saban.

Yeah. Yeah. Uh, who else was, who else was there? Uh, the guy that was at Florida, the head coach at Florida. he was there. If I'm not mistaken, I think he was the receiver's coach. Oh,

Christopher was also on that staff. Christopher Ball, too? Yes. He was the old line coach. Dan Lannick was a grad assistant. Kirby Smart was the D coordinator. Mel Tucker was the D.B. coach. Lockley was there,

was the quarterbacks coach. All of them, yes, all of it was there. It's so funny. Everybody that's coming under that. Oh, Sarkesian. Everybody that's come under that coach and umbrella up underneath.

Nick Saving has had success. everywhere they went. Had some type of success everywhere they went. Ocho, what, look, I understand, like some programs have been down. Like what Jim, Jim Harbaugh was able to do with Michigan, but Michigan has always been Michigan.

Yes. We know them from Coach Schenbeckler, although they never won a national championship, but he always had them in contention. Yes. So what Jim Harbaugh was able to do revitalize a once-dominated program, Indiana,

their first Big Ten title in 58 years. I wasn't born the last time they won a Big Ten championship. The first undefeated season in 80 years. My mom was three years old. The first Hoosier to win a Hizman trophy. The first ever national champion, first ever number one ranking. And probably Mendoza is probably going to be

the first number one overall pick from IU. Absolutely. Indiana, National Championship included just eight, and five-star recruits, while Miami had 45, four-and-five-star recruits. If you go look at their program, what they did,

they took a lot of guys from lower levels, James Madison, that situation, and brought them in. Guys that are already proven that's already played at the college level, damn that potential, y'all might be good,

already know I've seen what you did at that level. Come on. Yeah. Because we heard, remember we had Serrado here. He said, hey, I played with him at J.M.

me say, you know what I'm about. Yeah. Let's go get it done. And those guys came there. This show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This is your boy, Nav Green, from the Broken Play Podcast.

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on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. This is the most impressive thing that I've ever seen in college football. How he was able to turn that program around so fast? Yes, because even if you look at Alward, Auburn is, look, Auburn has had players. They had Bow, and they had guys Ronnie Brown

and Cadillac Williams. They've had players. Andre Bruce was the number one overall pick in 1988. they've had players. What? And prior to camp, they had, they had Hizman trophy winners.

Bo won the Hizman. I think they had a nut. Bo might have been to all. Maybe Pat Sullivan. I think didn't Pat Sullivan win the Housman trophy? If I'm not mistaken, I think Pat Sullivan, they might have only two,

but I think Sullivan won the Hizman trophy. But we've seen nothing like this, Ocho. This is, this is crazy. Yeah. This is crazy what IU was able to do. Yeah.

such a short amount of time. It is. And now with the college football playoff, Ocho, well, if such and such had made it, they wouldn't have beat this team. If that would have did this, they wouldn't have beat that team. Well, they beat Ohio State, they beat Alabama. They beat everybody that you put in front of them,

they kick their ass. Just beat them. Yeah. Hold on. They beat them convincingly. They didn't just sneak by. It wasn't, no controversy. They beat everybody. fair and square with no questions.

None, none. I don't know, we ain't got nothing to really talk about. From UM, oh, so I thought they got out to a slow start. I thought IU defense was playing a hang of a game. They were putting pressure on back. And then all of a sudden, they couldn't get any more pressure on back. And I'm like, bro, on third and 15,

you bring a corner blitz. That's the time you play zone. Now it's third and five, third and six, you rush three drop eight. Huh? Oh, Joe, I don't care how, I don't care how many you drop. If you don't put pressure on the quarterback, guys going to find dead areas. Hey, every time. You expect man, it's even easier.

Zone. Zone. If you got you a very smart receiver, understanding scheme and taxes and what you're trying to do defensively, it's easy to find the zone. It's just pitch and catch, pitch and catch, pitch and catch, get your ass up for you or get down. One of the other. Get out.

This was a heck of a game. This is what Nash, that ish, the Ash Elmabot got beat 65 to 7 and all these blowouts that we've had. That ain't what it's supposed to be. No. It's supposed to be this. You're supposed to be on the, I don't know who's going to win this game on Joe. Right. And matter of fact, you know, I was upset.

I wanted to take my son to the game. Obviously, I looked at the tickets, I look at the tickets, everything, $5,000, $7,000. And I chose not to go to the game. I told my son, you know, probably the best seat in the house is probably sitting at home watching it from TV. But for those people that were able to go to the game, regardless of the price, this game today, regardless of how much a ticket was, it was worth the price of admission. Are you sure this game was in Miami? Because I saw way more red than I saw green and orange. Are you sure?

Are you absolutely certain? Are you willing to put this on your 12 kids? that this game was in Miami. The game was in Miami, but. So why are, so? Can I tell you why?

Yes. Can I tell you why? Yes. Because, because they priced all the real fans out. They priced all the real fans out. I mean, obviously the fans from Indiana,

you know, hey, they know, some people, you know, took their life savings. They took some money they saved up and they came and bought tickets

and hoped. Well, y'all ain't got no life savings? I mean, we do, but we ain't finished spending on that. Oh, y'all know what the outcome is going to be? No, we, no. You football.

Oh, now you're a Hoosier fan all of a sudden. Hey, oh, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Are you a, I just need you. Hey, you just, I'm going to, hey, you just go to order that case. Just order to go that case. What case?

Not what case. Chad, you see what I'm talking about? I'm going to have to put that pistol in his mouth. Wait, I'm going to ask you what case. I don't got no case. I'm going to have, ever have to put that fire on you, Ocho. No, I'm asking you honestly, what case. Chad, y'all hear what he said?

Not chat. He's talking about what case. I ain't get in trouble. You're talking about like, when you say case, the only case I know about is like when you got a case, like what you mean? I need you to order a case of Laporteur. Oh, man. Oh, I got you. Why you, oh, hey, matter of fact, I'm going to do it.

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Y'all see what this man trying to do? This man trying, this man trying to say, Since he's buying a case, the 5,900 is wiped out. But I thought that's what we bet on. The new bet was about the La Portrait. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that was a new bet. The old bet didn't go away.

Okay, okay, okay. So the old, okay, I got you on the 5900. And I'm going to bring cash to you at the live show in Santa Clara. Mm-mm, mm-mm. I got you. Mm-mm. I know you can't breathe in that, huh? No, I don't know how picking them playing it is.

Well, it don't be that kind. It'd be the, you know, it'd be the thin one. You got the thick one. Actually, I guess I need to call it by its real name before somebody talking about I'm trying to be anti-Semitic because if you use the word shiasty, you know, somebody and might say, well, he's being anti-Semitic. It's actually called a belloclava. That is the correct pronunciation of the garment that I had on.

So forgive me, anybody that took offense from me saying the word shiasty, I apologize. I apologize. Oh, Joe, this bella clobber. No, that's not the way that, um, that's not the way it works. I don't want to, uh, uh, we don't want no problem. Okay, I'm, I'm, I'm going to educate those on the outside coming in based on culture and where you're from, certain things are called different names. And what you just had on your head is not a, a barbaclott. It's a, it's a shi.

A who? Bella clava. I mean, man, I don't know about no bella, Bella clobba. I know by the goddamn schicey, though. I know about, I know about a, uh, Beanie with the eyes out when it's time to go. do a drill. You know, that's it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And all that other stuff they talk about, man.

I don't, you know, I don't, because you, like I said, people try to take anything that you and I say or any somebody from, that's not from that, and they try to twist it and try to make more of what it than it is. Right. And they missed that entire point. So anybody that took offense to anything that I said because, you know, you use that word

and people like, oh my goodness, he's being anti-Semitic. Everything is anti-Semitic. Now, so the Bella clava that I had on, that Ocho and I was going back and forth. We were having a good time. So anybody that took offense to that, me using the word shiasty, I did not mean to or intend to offend anyone.

And even though that was not my intent, although intent only matters to me. If you took offense to it, I sincerely and humbly apologize. I'm confused. How can a word offend someone on an item, a tearistic item? That shouldn't really offend anyone at all.

It's a long story, Ocho. Okay, my bad. Yeah. This show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This is your boy, Nav Green, from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season, the playoffs are here. But guess what?

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Oh, man. That's your fault, man. Per ESPN research, only four teams in the Super Bowl era have won a playoff game in six consecutive seasons. The 91-96 Cowboys won three Super Bowls. The Patriots, 2011 to 2018. One three Super Bowl. The Chiefs, 2018 to 2024.

One three Super Bowls. The Bills, 2020 to 2020-20. 25 did not play in a single Super Bowl. Now, I remember you and I had a discussion, Ocho. I posted it October 13th. I said, Ocho, he and Trump, you looked at me to my uncle. You think so? I said, absolutely.

Yeah, yeah, look at the success he's had. He wasn't able to win, he wasn't able to win a Super Bowl, but he was in goddamn contention every goddamn year. Two AFC, goddamn titles, six playoff appearances, six playoff appearances. And you still fight him. Look at the team. The Cowboys did it for. from 91 to 96.

They won one playoff game in six consecutive seasons. They won three Super Bowls. The Patriots did it from 2011 to 2018. Three Super Bowls, the Chief, 2018 to 2024, three Super Bowls, the bills, 2025, did not play in a single Super Bowl. I keep, I keep, see, oh my goodness. So I got a question for you too,

on, matter of fact, chat, y'all can chime in as well. Now, you think, about how do you think about the success the buffalo bills have had obviously reaching a fc championship game making the playoffs in general right so yes the head coach yes you're bringing a new voice you're bringing a new regime you bring in the coaches offensively defensively and new special team coaches now when you do that are you further away from winning a soup bowl or do you believe you're going to be closer to win one since you still have the same supporting cast and the same goddamn quarterback the they believe the head coach are taking them and i'd use you

the term all the time. They believe the head coach is taking them as far as they can go. They believe, hold on, because here's another scenario. What is Sean McDermott's background? Defense. Yeah. What has let him down every year in the postseason?

Defense. Remember he has scored 36 that lose to Baham. They score all these points. Come playoff time to defense is atrocious. Now, he fired Leslie Frazier. Because if I'm not mistaken, what Leslie Frazier, his, his de-coordinated when they gave up

that lead at a three-point lead with 13 seconds. I think Leslie Frazier was his head coach. And he wanted to keep Leslie on, but he wanted to call the plays. Right. They fired Leslie Frazier. I saw this for miles away. I said, boy, if he don't get it done this year

and everything has been removed, he was the best quarterback still remains. in the post season and it wasn't a hurdle that's best be but be funneled them right so many times before which is the Kansas City Chiefs I saw this coming but when I said it I remember to chat the chat just trying to get clicks you just say it stuff they ain't gonna fire that man yeah you was you was right unc you was right listen I listen I'm you was right I'm you was right I'm talking you was dead on you was dead on and I didn't believe it because what I tell you about Harbaugh and

about Harbaugh. But, you know, I kind of understood that. I could see that after 19 years, obviously, they ain't not going right and losing that game. I could, I could see more Harbaugh getting fired, but I really couldn't see McDermott because of the success that they kept having in the postseason outside of not winning a goddamn Lombardi, but you're getting there. You're knocking on the door every year. You're knocking on the door every goddamn year. It just keep closing on you. It ain't good enough, O'Kill. It ain't good enough. And guess what? You've dominated that division.

Now you're not going to dominate that division no more. You've got to fight tooth and nail because the Patriots ain't going nowhere. No. Guess what? Jacksonville, they built to last. Yeah. The Broncos, the Chargers, the Chiefs. If y'all think the Chiefs are going to stay down, you fooling yourself.

Oh, no, absolutely not. You saw the enemy went back, huh? I don't know if he's, I know, I know he was in the, asked the request to talk to it. Yeah. It only makes sense. It only makes sense. It only makes sense to have him come back because they've had tremendous success when he

was there. Hell, he shouldn't have left the goddamn building in the first place. Well, he was not going to get the credit because they, teams always say they want somebody that call plays. Right. Nick Zirionni didn't call plays. Matt Nagy did not call plays. Mike, make the kids.

Daniel didn't call plays. Guess who else didn't call played and had a job for 18 years? Who that? John Harbaugh. He was a special teams coach. See, Ocho, if I want you, I can make every excuse to get you. If I don't, I'll make every excuse right not.

I shouldn't hire you. That's how it works. I laugh. Hey, that applies a lot more than just football. You hear me? You do realize. 80% of the people that get hired, the job is never posted.

Hey, man, you know, Hey, Ocho, you know they're hiring down there such and such. Really? Yeah, you, I mean, you're interested? I'll put a word in for you. Come on, nah. You know, they're going to. See, they ain't ready to have conversation like this, so- No, no, no, no, no. You know they're going to take care of each other now.

Come on, now. Ocho, and I ain't got no problem. Right. But just, oh, but, I mean, if you take care of somebody, is that a, and you don't have to go through the process, Is that a DEI hire? What you guys hate so much?

Just curious. Hmm. We ain't got to make it that kind of show. Okay. I'm all for. Brandon Bean has only drafted two pro bowl players out of the 56 draft picks since he selected Josh Allen,

James Cook, and Dawson Knox. Actually, and check this out on show. Yeah. Brandon Bean is actually getting up His new title is President of Football Operation General Manager, gaining oversight of the coaching staff. Hey, so he just got a promotion.

Yep. It got the same position that I'm buying for in Cincinnati, basically. Or basically the same position that Matt Ryan has with the Atlanta Falcons. Am I correct? Yes. And he's only drafted two pro bowlers in the last 50 years. Since he drafted, since he drafted. since he drafted.

Right. Josh Allen. Only two. So the mere fact that Josh Allen has been doing this. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Oh my goodness. That's terrible.

Yeah. That is terrible. Player of operations. I'm trying to think. I don't, I don't look. Like I said, I didn't advocate for the man to lose his job. I don't want anybody to lose their job.

But football is. is a what has you done for me lately business? And I'm just, I'm just looking at the landscape and I just see a guy just get, I mean, he keeps hitting his head on the ceiling. Right. So that's telling,

so I think the Pagulas, Kim and Terry Pagula, they're saying he's taking this team as far as he can take them. Now I'm not saying this as far as they can go. I'm saying they believe this as far as he can take them. A lot of the things that I say with John Harbaugh with Steve, Shadi was thinking we're, we're further away. Hmm.

We're not getting closer. We're not. That sucks. And you start hearing about the tension between Monk and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, it always, it always, it always, it always, it always, it always, it always, it's always, you know, and I know we, we, a lot of people got on, on, on, on Mike pressing about some of the things that he wrote, but obviously he wouldn't have anything to right if he didn't get it from somewhere. It always come from somewhere. Where there's smoke, there's always. anytime you hear reports coming from inside the building. And the one person to leak it out and get it out are the reporters.

Whether they would be. Yeah, but I'm not, look, I'm not surprised. And when he called that time out and when he did all this grandstanding, because he knows in overtime, you don't get a challenge. Everything is challenged upstairs. So even in that situation, the booth was going to challenge it for him to call that reporter from the flown. Yeah, he wasn't trying to see,

he wasn't trying to talk about the fans. he was appealing to Kim and Terry Pagoole. And in fact, didn't I say that when you said that? Yeah. I say you try to save face because there's no reason to even even even consulting reporter at that moment when you do all the talking you need to do at the goddamn podium. I said it. I said it another night soon as he, I mean, what do you call the reporter for?

Okay. Oh Joe. You try to save. I get your prime example. Tony Dungeon to the Tampa. They lost the NFC championship game. Yeah. They lost the.

NFC championship game, and they made a move because they felt that coach Dungey had taken that team as far as he can take them. What does he do? He goes to another team and he takes them to a Super Bowl. And he wins it with Peyton. That's what I'm saying. When I made the thing about Mark Jackson, I was like, what does Mark Jackson have to do about this?

He was head coached Golden State Warriors. They had gone to the playoffs several times. but Peter Gruber and those guys had believed he had taken them as far as he can take them. Then come Steve Kerr. Four championships later, who there it is. Yeah. So let me ask you this.

Do you think Harbaugh and Stefansky regret committing to the Giants and Falcons so soon? Because this is the best, this is the team that has the best quarterback available. Can they back out or no? I'm just asking, can they? back out. I mean, he probably draw on the contract now.

Listen, Harbaugh hasn't signed anything yet. Wasn't there some language he still? Mike Tomlin. Now we're talking. But I don't think Mike wants to coach anymore.

I don't, I don't think he wants to coach anymore. I think he wants to sail off into the sunset, even though it's not ending on the terms that he would like. Yeah.

But you know who I can go over there in coaching Buffalo? Who? Someone who knows the game, the ends and outs. Bill Belichick. Nope. Who?

Shannon Emmanuel Sharp. Oh, shit, Dad. Yeah, I'm just telling you. Again, God. Then I can do no podcast. I do it for you. Don't worry about it. What is going to be called?

Ocho and what? It's going to be called. It's going to be called Nightcap. Ocho and what? I mean, shit, I don't, Ocho in the chat. That's it. That's all I need. Just me in the chat.

You got to have somebody to bounce something off of them. Ash, ass going to take your spot. You talking about yourself for three hours, two and a half, two hours, two and a half hours? No, that ain't good work. Oh, you should,

but let me, let me take a nap. I take a nap, but you know I get to talking and won't shut up. But you got to have somebody. You, look, I commend Colin Cowherd

because Colin, basically it's him, but I mean, yeah, he has Jason McIntyre, but mainly it's just him. Yeah, he just go. Yeah. He just go.

I mean, you need somebody, you need a differing of opinion. You need to have somebody else thoughts on something. And that's why you and I work. We're totally different. We see some things out of eye. But when we disagree, we really disagree. I mean, we're like, we're diametrically opposed.

All the way on the other side. You know, man, you're in Africa and I'm way in Russia. But that, but that works. Look. I think everybody got what they want Harbaugh wanted a situation. He wanted $20 million a year. He wanted $20 million a year. He wanted to sell the roster. And he only has to report to the bars and the tishes. Right.

50-50 owners of the Giants. Stafaski, I don't want to doubt Mr. Blank because Mr. Blank He's been great. Right. Look, Mr. Blank, y'all ain't going to make me say nothing bad about Mr. Blank because what he did, he gave Rahim, hired Rahim. He supports the black colleges,

the black college, the black college, the black college, the black college, he funded that. All these black colleges, he got Newfield, Savannah State and more and all those, he did that. Yeah.

So y'all ain't going to make me say nothing bad about him. So even though he hired Kevin Stafansky, and I'm like, damn, it's not like you hire, you know, a young coach Belichick, I do believe he could have got someone better.

Now, he might make, Stafansky might make me eat my words. But I believe Clint Kubiak and I believe some of these other guys are equally deserving. Right. Now, I would like to see Kubiak

in Baltimore. With his imagination, right. With Lamar Jackson, he's going to tack every area on the field vertically and horizontally. And he going to run the ball. Yeah.

What is that ever since? go do? What do the Rams do? They're going to run the football. And they got a guy that can run the football. And then when Lamar Jackson pulled that ball out, guys are going to be so wide open because they're going to get, they're going to be

so tired of Derek Henry. Yeah. I just, I'm surprised that Stefanski was the second coach hired. I really am, to be honest. Ah, man, listen. It's hard for me to know why.

I'm not sure when he had the interview. The interview must have went extremely well. Based on him having the last four seasons, being losing seasons, only winning eight games in the last four years. I'm not sure why he was hired, but there's something that Arthur Blinks saw in him. Or Matt Ryan,

because Matt Ryan was, that's Matt Ryan that fought president of football operation. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm not sure. That falls up under his purview. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. It is.

But who knows? Maybe Sean McDermott, look at the level of success that he's had. Maybe he pops back up and now he's in the hiring cycle. All I know is this. I'm a little leery. If your level of expertise is on any side of the ball and you become a head coach and that side struggles. Sean McDermott's defense struggled.

Yeah. If you're an offensive coordinator and your team putting up 15 points a game averaging 300 yards. Nah, bro. Nah, uh-uh. No. No. No.

So. Oh, Joe, we have breaking news. The Titans are working on to finalize a deal to how 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Salah as their next head coach. Salah spent Monday in Tennessee with the Titans and the two sides impressed each other enough to move forward.

We knew something. It was trending in this direction. When they moved it, they said they pushed it back because he was supposed to do the interview via Zoom on Sunday. They pushed it back to Monday because they wanted to do this in person. That was the first hit. They were kind of leaning towards Robert Salon. So I'm not surprised by this.

I think he'll do great defense, but everything is predicated. Who's you going to be your offensive coordinator? Who's going to be in your young quarterbacks here? Because we know he can play, he can dial up defense, and he's got a lynch pin. He's got a guy that you can build a defense around and that's Jeffrey Simmons.

Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, I've played around with just the thought of Jeffrey Simmons, you know, being down in Cincinnati, but I think that shit might have sailed right now. Yeah, I don't think the Titans are letting Jeffrey go. But Robert Sala is a great, a great addition, a great head coach, a defensive mind, and I'm sure he's going to get those boys playing up to par and up to speed. On the officer end, Cam Ward being the future of that organization, Calvin Ridley coming back. I still think they need some more weapons. Pollard is good, but I'm sure they can use someone else, you know, back there in the backfield. But they need another receiver. They need another dog to go along with Calvin Ridley, who's coming off of injury.

So we're not sure what he's going to look like. They need another security blanket for Cam Ward out there. So, I mean, the Titans are doing what they need to do. I'm sure Robert Sala going to, I'm not sure how much control and say he has in the roster. and wants to pick as far the draft and the offseason acquisitions goes. But they can make a change. They can make a change.

They might be the team similar to this year's Carolina and Bears, you know, bears, you know, choices that I went before the season started on teams to look out for. It could be Tennessee next year, depending on what they do in the offseason and what they do in the draft. Robert Salo would now be joining his third AFC South team of his career.

His first job was with the Texans from 2005 to 2010. And he also spent time with the Jags from 2014 to 2016 as the linebackers coach. And now he's the Tennessee Titans head coach. Texas head coach Domingo Ryan's and New Tennessee Titans head coach Robert Sala, both with former 49ers defensive coordinators are now head coaches in the same division and will square off twice a year. They came, the Shanahan staff, they were all on the staff.

I don't, I don't know if, if De Miko was on the staff with Coobbe, Cubiak, when he was in, Houston. Because Coop was the head coach at Houston, and Kyle was his, his,

his officer coordinator. But a lot of these guys with Kyle when he was in Washington, Sean McVeigh, Mike McDaniel, Rahim, all those guys. So I like this.

So do you believe, Robert Sala is the right hire for the Tennessee Titans. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, he's a defense of mine. And like you did say, they can build defensively, great, because you have that nucleus down there in Jeffrey Simmons. I'm more focused on what they do offensively, on.

I am more focus on what they do offensively. Yes, I agree. I'm with you. Yeah, and surrounding Cam Ward with more weapons, more weapons he could work with. with Calvin Ridley coming back off injury, we don't know what Calvin Ridley were going to get. So I'm hoping with the offseason acquisitions that they do bring in and what they do in the draft is very, very important for the growth of Cam Ward.

Defensively, I think they're going to be fine, especially when you get a coach like Robert Salah coming in that building. I think they're going to be okay. Yeah, I agree. I think they probably need some offensive line help too because Cam Ward will sacked a lot. Where did Cam Ward finish as far as sacks? because I don't care who you offer you the coordinator. You can't protect the quarterback.

You can't win in this league. Yeah. It's hard. It's really hard when your quarterback getting punished. Robert Sala. He was tied for the most sacks in the NFL. So that's where you start, Ocho. He got sacked 55 times.

And remember, he missed the game, right? Oh, he got hurt in the last game with the season. Okay. So, 55 sacks, you ain't going to make a limit. You ain't going to play long. You keep getting 55 times. You like that. Yeah, I mean, so I was right.

I was right. I was right. Okay. Solid jet tenure. He had Zach Wilson, he had Aaron Rogers. But I think he needed this year to rehab his image. Right. Because it's hard to go from the Jets,

head coached just go get another job yeah most of the time when people leave the Jets they ain't really going too many other places not at all

but I think everyone deserves a second chance if you have to coach at the Jets if you got the coach of the Jets and that organization that hasn't done anything worth the damn in a very long time

you deserve a second chance I think Parcells Parcells left the Jets and ended up going to coach the Cowboys Mm-hmm. This would before he came to Miami. Coach Belichick was going to be the head coach because he was supposed to take over for coach,

Coach Parcells, but he didn't want to do that because he knows the Jets was on some bulljive, and they ended up having to trade a first-round pick to get Coach Belichick to go to New England, which was the best first-round draft pick the Patriots have ever spent. Mm-hmm. That is the best draft pick that they've used,

and it wasn't for a player. It was to get Coach Belichael. check. And it worked out. Perfect, boy. Yes. Get some O-line, get some O-line, some O-Lineman to protect Cam. I agree.

You need another receiver to go opposite to really. Hopefully he can come back to what he was. Probably you get your running back, Ocho, probably the third of the fourth round. Yeah. Got some good ones out there now. And you got to get some defense. You got to get somebody to go along with Simmons. Hey, Legerious needs should be healthy coming off, coming, coming back this year.

Yes, yes, yes. We, you get him to play in like he played when he's at Kansas City, you know, get him, get him back right. Man, they should, they should be fine. Oh, yeah, Rex Ryan went to, Rex Ryan went to the, uh, the bills. But Rex, Rex had success. Rex, what, went to back to back MC championship games? Mm-hmm.

Because remember that year, he knocked out Peyton and he knocked out for a time. Uh-huh. And they ended up losing. in the Pittsburgh. Yeah. And the AOC championship game. That's when they had that crazy defense over there with the Jess. Oh, yeah.

They had Crow and Revis, Bart Scott. Hey, that they had, uh, Muhammad Wilkinson. Hey, that front, that front four they had there. I think Calvin Pace was on that team, too. Boy. David, uh, what was the linebacker? David, what was it David Baker? David, how, they had a live back of number 52.

I don't remember. They had some, they had some, they had some, they had some thuppers. They had some thuppers, uh, and they could get up, they could get after the quarterback. They was running the football with Thomas Jones and those guys and Damian Woody and Mango, rest his soul. They did a great job of mauling people. Um, but the giant, the Jets, do we know who the Jazz eyes? Oh, oh, Eric Glader is still there. He's still there.

He can't have another season like he had last year, though. No, no. He can't because you know the lease is short. You know the lease is short. You see what happened with Rahim. You see what, hell, McDermott, I mean, Harbaugh, and they want instant gratification. They want instant success.

And that's not what you're going to get. I mean, those owners over there, especially with the Jets, you got to learn patience. You got to learn patience because in order for the head coach to have success, you got to have the product on the field. Right. Well, you think about all these coaches that are having success. and winning all these games.

And I mean, you say, oh, it's coaching. But coaching, you can only coach so much. You still need the players to be able to perform. You still need the players to be able to execute the ex and those. The better the players you got, the ease it is the goddamn implement a game plan. And when it's time to play somebody. I agree. Now you got players.

You got to, you got to do certain things to help them get open. You got to hide, you got to hide their weaknesses. And that's difficult, man. Yeah. then you get exposed as a coach because, but look what I'm working with. And the coach can't say that. It's,

but I think the thing of Zocho is that you oversell to get the job. You make all these promises. I can coach this guy. I can get so much better than this and blah, blah, blah. And then the owner's like, what happened? You said you could, bro, I was just saying that. I was selling you, I was selling myself to you.

I really couldn't do it. Not with what you got. Mm-hmm. Hey. You know, that's how it be when you first meet somebody, uh-uh. You know? You're not meeting the actual person. You're meeting their representation.

I'm trying to put my, I'm trying to put my best foot forward to make sure I don't lose the opportunity. I want this job as a judge. Actually, that's your agent. Huh? They meet your agent. Oh, yeah. Because that person is telling you everything was so great about the person that you really

haven't met yet. Come on now. We're going to have this conversation a later day time. But I'm just saying when you meet somebody, that's the agent. Because you know how an agent sell. Yeah.

Whether you're in Hollywood, whether you're in Hollywood, whether you are football, basketball, baseball, or whatever the case may be, your agent will always tell you great things about said individual that's looking to get this job. It's all about representation. And anytime you meet someone new,

you are meeting their name, representative always so