Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Fixing the WNBA pay gap, 76ers beat Heat, Jontay Porter gets banned

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss how the WNBA players can close the pay gap with their NBA counter parts, Joel Embiid's fourth quarter heroics catapulting the Philadelphia 76ers past the Miami Heat into a first round matchup with Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks, Jontay Porter receiving a lifetime ban from the NBA for violating the league's gambling rules and much more. 0:00 Introduction3:50 Unc shows off his Bayou Barbie Angel Reese jacket23:00 76ers defeat Heat to clinch 7th seed32:45 Bulls defeat Hawks39:30 Zion Williamson will not play in game vs Kings due to hamstring injury46:55 Jontay Porter gets banned for life from NBA for gambling #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content. The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you ladies and gentlemen for joining us for another episode of Nightcap I am your favorite unk, look at your boy

Ha, wearing that Bayou Barbie gear I am your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp He's your favorite number 85 Rock runner extraordinaire That's him Ring of fame, honoree for the Bengals Pro bowler for of fame Honoree for the Bengals Yes sir Pro bowler for the Bengals

Yes sir All pro for the Bengals Yes sir Liberty City's on He reps hard for the city Yeah Chad Ochocinco Y'all know him as

Mr. Real Rosado His real last name is Johnson So Chad Ochocinco Real Rosado Johnson Hyphenated Johnson that is. Please, thank you guys. Make sure you hit that like button. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. And thank you so much for

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But we would greatly appreciate it if you subscribe and listen through the nightcap podcast feed. So thank you very much. Thank you guys for selling out. Shade by La Portia. We're doing the best we can because we did not expect the demand that we've been getting. But people that have been that that have tasted it for the first time, they've been repeat customers. And I can't thank you enough for that. so we're gonna get back to you we're uh we're in stock we're only taking pre-orders but promise you bro we're gonna get to all you ladies and gentlemen and

thank you thank you again uh what else we got please make sure you go out and vote for the webbies uh tomorrow night 11 59 uh p.. will be the last time you can vote. We are nominated, Ocho, Nightcap, Webby, best podcast, best sports podcast, that is. Currently, we're in first place. We have two nominations for Club Shea Shea also. So to have two podcasts and to be nominated for three awards, I want to thank you guys for making all of that possible.

So thank you guys. Continue to vote. And thank you. Bye, you, Barbie. Thank you, Angel you guys for making all of that possible. So thank you guys. Continue to vote. And thank you by you, Barbie. Thank you, Angel Reese, for sending your favorite on. That's my niece, y'all. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Time out, man. What'd that say? What'd that say back there?

Angel Reese! Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out. My knees hook it up. Look at that. Time out. Number 10. What did she got on here? What'd she say? Unapologetically me. She got

unapologetically her. By you, Barbie. That's me. That's more representation of me. You know, with that slogan, unapologetically me, is really how I've carried myself all my life. So I'm trying to understand

Angel Reese, sister. I'm sorry, where mine at? I'm a woman. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Angel Reese, how that your boy? Man, let me get a jacket. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Ocho?

I mean, can I get something in peace? No, you getting everything. You get the awards. You got the liquor. You get the awards, too. Yeah, but they come to you first. And now she's sending you jackets.

Angel Reese, man, holla at your boy, man. Send your boy something, man. No, no, no, no, no, no. Send your boy something, man. Come on, now. Come on, y'all. You got to do right now. Can you see that? What'd I say? Come on, now. Come on, y'all. You got to do right, now. Can you see that?

What'd I say? Angel Reese? Yep. Yeah, man. Come on, man. Sis, holla at your boy, now. Angel Reese. She over there in Chicago, right? Bayou Barbie. She over there in Chicago, right?

Yeah. Listen, her name ain't even Bayou Barbie no more. She got a new name because she in Chicago now. So her new name is Big Reese. Nope, nope, nope she in Chicago now. So her new name is Big Reese. Nope, nope, nope. Yeah, I'm saying her new nickname is Big Reese. But you got to keep that. You don't understand.

Hopefully she got that, she copyrighted. No, she in Chicago. You not understand it. See, you missing the point. You missing the whole little lingo. She Big Reese now. So let me ask you a question. Yes, sir.

So let me ask you a question. So Devo should change his name since he ain't in the South no more, huh? I'm just saying, if she's in Chicago, that means she's more so a resident of Chicago now. So the name change has to go because Bayou Barbie doesn't flow once you're in Chirac.

So Lil Reese, so she going from Lil Reese to Big Reese. It just makes sense That thing catchy That thing just grab you It's catchy but it ain't catchy in Chicago That's what I'm trying to explain to you I guarantee you

That's how they gonna refer to her She got that name I changed her name, her name now is Big Reese Big Reese She'll understand it and the young folk Gonna understand it, you ain't gonna understand it I changed her name. Her name now is Big Reese. Okay. Big Reese. Yeah. I mean, she'll understand it, and the young folk are going to understand it. You ain't going to understand it

because you old. Oh, I understand. Bayou Barbie. I think Bayou Barbie, you got to understand, like, when you coming out with merchandise, you got to think,

okay, what's going to resonate? When you hear Bayou Barbie, what you think? What's the first name come to your mind? Angel Reese? Yeah. Yeah. But when you're Chicago... Barbie, what you think? What's the first name come to your mind? Angel Reese? Yeah. Yeah. But when you're in Chicago... That's how you got to think when you're talking about

a product. Listen, we know what else is going to resonate. When you're playing in Chicago and they go, hey, they go Big Reese, they're going to know what it is right off back. It's going to flow real smooth. She understand. The chat know what I'm talking about. The chat know what I'm talking about. The chat know what I'm talking about.

It's not going to, it doesn't sound, it doesn't sound, it doesn't sound like. See, you're not understanding, baby. You got to catch up with the times. You using that old technology. Nah, Bayou Barbie resonates. Bayou Barbie is catchy. You got to have something that rolls off the tongue. You got to have something that when the people hear, they automatically think.

When you hear in football, when you hear the sheriff, who do you think of? Peyton Manning. Right. But see, it's hard for me to explain it to you in terms that you understand unless you know the background about people in Chicago that have the name and the name I'm referring to. So Big Reese, it really makes sense based on her being in Chicago at this time. Now, it's going to be hard for me. Ocho, I don't like to, you know, I don't think I'm breaking a lot of news to anybody else, but I was born in Chicago. Wait a minute. Hold on. You and you and GD, too, with me and Obama?

No. OK, OK. Let me know. I know you were born in Chicago. OK, so I was. Yes. Well, how you got way how you got way to the country then? The question is how my mom got way to Chicago. Now, my dad, my dad, my dad, brothers. They all were they all from Reesville. OK, they ended up going to, you know, look, during that time, you get the hell out of the South. It was a great migration. Oh, yeah. You went to Detroit. You went to Chicago. You went to New York. You would get the hell away from the South. Oh, yeah. Because of Jim Crow, because of segregation.

Yes. And you wanted at least some resemblance of a chance to make it. So blacks were leaving by the thousands. As soon as they graduated high school, they're like, I'm leaving here by hook or crook. A lot of men joined the military to get the hell away from there. And a lot of them went because, you know, Detroit, the car, the automobile industry, New York was, you know, up and come in Chicago, but they wanted to get away from what the South had to offer. Right. And so

my dad went there. My mom, my mom had already had my sister. Hey, she's like, hey, we go to Chicago. My mom went to New York for a little while and ended up in Chicago. My mom's still there. My mom's been there since 19, off and on. Basically she's been there since 62.

So my mom's been there over 60 years. So how often I never hear you really talk about Chicago. How often do you visit Chicago in general or it's just you don't really visit it much? Not often. OK. My mom, my mom, my mom comes to visit me because I don't know anything. I left when I was two. So I haven't really had no connections. Really, really nothing. I've only been back home.

Yeah. Right. Nothing there really resonates with you. Nah, nah, nah. Yeah. I'd never forget, man. Those, I'm saying, you know, I have extensive ties to Chicago. And I'm just a reflection.

And when me and Obama were younger back in those days I mean we had we had some good times obviously we went in two different career paths him obviously going on to be the president of the United States and me going on to to play in the NFL uh and everything has come full circle and I just just seeing how far we've come from where we started is it's commendable on both parts yeah a lot of lot of people, Ocho, a lot of people in the South being born in the South, you pick cotton, you did manual labor. Whoa, cotton?

Oh, yeah, cotton was big in the South. You're not that old, man. No, I'm saying my parents. Oh, my parents. No, no, no, no. By the time I came along, they were no longer picking cotton by hand. They had machines from my parents. No, no, no, no, no. By the time I came along, they were no longer picking cotton by hand.

They had machines to pick the cotton. But back then, they didn't have no, you were the machine. Your black ass was the machine. So all the things like,

I'm looking now how they do all this stuff. I'm like, y'all got machines to plant all these crops? We planted that stuff by hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, technology came along.

Matter of fact, if you think about it, think of how everything is evolving now where AI... Not soon enough. Not soon enough. They done got my black ass out in them fields. Yeah, but this is the thing.

You talk about not soon enough, but in a minute, ain't going to be no job for us because technology and computers and AI is taking over everything, so there's going to be no need is the thing. You talk about not soon enough, but in a minute, ain't going to be no job for us because technology and computers and AI is taking over everything, so there's going to be no need for the human in a minute. Well, they're going to need my boy,

and I ain't telling my jokes to the AI machine. I ain't telling it. So he's going to have so much information. But what we got? Oh, so that's what it was. So, Andrew, again, thank you so much. Best of luck to you and Camilla, but uh what we got oh so that's what it was so Angel again

thank you so much best of luck to you and uh Camilla uh uh the Twin Towers the new Twin Towers in Chicago

oh that's right Cardoza there too yeah yeah yeah man somebody Angel Reese Angel Reese send your boy a jacket man

holly holly I'm a large I'm a large Miss Cardoza if you got anything matter of fact you know what any WNBA players I want to support you if you got anything, matter of fact, you know what? Any WNBA players,

I want to support you. If you got any type of apparel, man, send it to my P.O. Box. Just holla at your boy. I'm a large. I'm coming to the game. You know what we got to do? We got to go to the games.

We got to go to the games. Okay. We got to go to the games. Listen, the people, the world in general, we need to support the WNBA. I'm definitely going to a Las Vegas Aces game. Yeah.

I got to see Asia and Kelsey. Yeah, and Chelsea. They nice. They be hooping. So I'm definitely going to a Las Vegas Aces game. I have one question. I don't mean to jump off topic. I know we talked about Angel Reese and them young ladies in Chicago and the Aces. What do we need to do? Obviously, you would know better than I am as far as the pay, the pay, the pay to get the pay up to where it should be. Because I saw, obviously, on Twitter what Kaitlyn Clark's pay would be this year and come on now.

Come on now. Come on now. Well, that has to go with advertisers. That has to go with sponsors. That goes with television rights and things of that nature. There's a reason why NFL, because you have to realize the league is only 20 plus years old. Yes, sir.

NFL didn't always make this money. MLB and NBA players didn't always make this money. MLB and NBA players didn't always make this money. But as the television rights grew, as teams expanded and sponsors and advertisers realized the reach that athletes have,

then advertisers, sponsors, television rights all of a sudden got on because it's still live events is where it's at right football mainly nfl mainly nfl especially in north america yes sir but it's the live events it's the football the mlb the nba but give the women time yeah eventually they're going to get there now they're not going to make what the men make. Well, obviously not. It needs to be much, much better than what I saw.

What I saw yesterday. That's going to come with advertising. That's going to come with sponsorship. That's going to come with TV rights. And hopefully with this new crop of women led by Caitlin Clark and Cameron Brink and Rike Jackson.

Rikea Jackson. Excuse me. Cardosa. Angel Reese. With those ring and Rick, uh, uh, Ricky Jackson, Rekia Jackson, excuse me, uh, Cardosa, uh, Angel Reese with those influx combined with what's already there. Now you talk about Asia Wilson. You got a DT, you got a breeze door. You got a John Quayle Jones. You got a Nesco. You got the, you got talent that's already there. Yeah. Infused with this new talent. Yes, sir. So hopefully they can build on the momentum that's already there infused with this new talent. Yes, sir. So hopefully they can build on the momentum that's been generated

over the last several years, and it starts growing. And also with the public, the eyes, the viewership, the people attending the games, making sure the games sell out, that also helps as well as far as… Yeah, for sure. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, absolutely. but it comes down but it comes down to sponsorship it comes down to the big the big agencies the big corporations right

wanting to be a part of this right like they want to be a part of the nfl like they want to be a part of the nba like they want to be a part of mlb and that's when That's when the revenue grows. And also, TV rights. There's a reason why they added an extra game. You see what the NBA did? They added a play-in. So guess what we get? We get three extra games. So we got two last night.

We got two tonight. The losers both play again. So guess what? We got three extra games. Boom. Advertisers pay for that. I mean, TV pay for that. NFL, what did they do? They used to play 12 games. Then they went to 14. Then they went to

16. They added 17. Guess what? It used to be six playoff teams. They got seven. Baseball, they got to play in. You see how they do it? Yeah. You want more? You got to give them more. Right. So, you know, they're trying to add teams to the WNBA.

Yep. I heard they're going to have a team here in Florida. But all things being equal, you know what needs to happen? Yes, sir. Men talking, women need to go take their ass to the games too. That's what needs to happen yes sir men talking women need to go take their ass to the games too that's what needs to happen right women need to support women right women are the biggest haters of women i never i ain't breaking i ain't breaking news to nobody i ain't never thought about it i know you didn't yeah that's what women need to go go to the game

women you think so even in their sport though i mean i ain't talking thought about it like that. I know you didn't. Yeah. That's what women need to go. Go to the game, women. You think so? Even in their sport, though? I mean... I ain't talking about their sport. They play the sport. I'm talking about women go sit, dance in the stands and watch and cheer and root. Oh, yeah, I see what you mean.

That's what I'm talking about. I ain't talking about that. Matter of fact, think about this. Think about the turnout. I hate using a comparison like this. Think about how the women come out in droves when it's a Beyonce concert. Yeah.

Or it's a Nicki Minaj concert. Or it's a Meg Thee Stallion concert. Or Lotto. Yes. Or any of those young ladies. Right. If they got the same support and had that same energy when it came to the WNBA, things would be different. Yes.

I know one thing. I know what I'm doing this year when they league start. I'm from the city hop. Ain't going go support it everybody everybody from the WNBA that send me a jersey or a jacket I'm going to the game yeah you know I'm going to grab the jacket because you know what I what I do is that you know I what I how you got the jacket that's what I'm trying to understand whoa she's trying to sell merchandise so what you do you send it to me. Let me ask you a question. When Pharrell Williams took over as the creative director of Louis Vuitton, who was the first

athlete he gave stuff to? LeBron James. I had it first. What you got? Let me see. You want me to show it to you? Yeah, let me see it. Let me see the 2024 stuff. Okay, hold on. I'm going to show you a jacket real quick. Hold on. Man, get out of here.

Man, for real, we wouldn't even dare to design no mess like that. You look like you're standing on the yard at Pelican Bay. What you talking about? Boy, this Louis Vuitton 2025. This ain't even out yet. What you talking about?

And hopefully it don't come out. Hopefully you have the only sample piece. Hey, you hold on. You see the material? You know what this is? Mm-hmm. Huh? Yeah.

It's alpaca. Alfalfa? No, alpaca. Now, you can't even get this. Hey, this $25,000 flannel right here. Alpaca. No. Hold on.

Let me put this back because I got to put it back in the glass case. Yeah, the mouth will love it. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel

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Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Man, I thought you was bringing me out something that was made of vicuña. Oh, no. Hey, listen. You know what vicuña is? Who? Yeah, I didn't think so.

What's the name? What's the name? Vicuna. What's Vicuna? It's very expensive material. The suit started about $25,000, $30,000. Oh, well, shoot. That alpaca I just showed you.

Now, you know, listen. You spill anything on that? If you spill anything on that,000. Oh, well, shoot, that alpaca I just showed you. Now, you know, listen, you spill anything on that? If you spill anything on that, hey. But if you think about it, that's how it goes. These, be it Louis Vuitton

or Gucci or Tiffany's. They go to the most, the athletes are the most visible. The athletes are the most visible. There you go. Yeah. So, so, so niece, niece in it to her. Oh, yeah.

Put this out there for me. She said, put this on. Gotcha. No problem. Wow. PSA, dear WNBA players. I'm Chad. I would love to wear your merch in public and on nightcap. We're going to get you a

jacket. I want everybody's stuff now. I want everybody's stuff. In exchange for your apparel, I will be showing up to a game to wear courtside. Thank you. I appreciate it. You send it. I'll pay for everything else. Yep.

Purchase the league pass. Oh, you late. I've been did that. I've been did that. It's only 37 bucks. I'm going to get the league pass. I'm going to be watching some games.

Because like I said, aces on my team. It used to be the Comets. But I know. Time out, time out, time out. You're going to jump

way from LA all the way to Vegas and you're a Laker fan. I used to look. I used to like the comments I like Cynthia Cooper I like Cooper and Swoop Yeah Cooper and Knight Oh they were nice

And they didn't They were nice boy Yeah But you know Asia Asia was the lady game cop So you know I got to cheer for the lady game cop That's right

That's right That's right So I got to rock with I got to rock with them. But now with this new... Aja played a two or a three? She's mainly a four. Okay, okay, okay. So she'd be like 80.

She's basically like 80. Yeah, she'll play the five, but her game has expanded so much. She really wasn't a... Didn't shoot the three. She can shoot the three now. She got a mid-range shot. Kind of like Breonna Stewart. Breonna Stewart,

her game, she can shoot the three. She can take your mid-range pull up. She can play with her back to the basket. That's why her and Asia, they're the two best players in the WNBA.

Right. Because of the expansion, because of how they've expanded their game. Game, right. Oh yeah, they're unbelievable. I love to see them bang, go head-to-head. So it's a great matchup.

The WNBA is in great hand because as these older players, the DT starts to move on. Asia's already settled in. Breonna Stewart is already settled in. You got Inescu, and now you bring Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese, and you bring Cameron Brink, and you bring Camila Cardoso, and you bring these, and, you know, they got Full Wiley coming, and they got other guys.

Hey, Paige Beckers is coming next year. Good hands. Good hands. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I like that. Ocho, let's get to the game tonight.

The Philadelphia 76ers beat the Miami Heat in the 7-8 play-in game. And now they're the number seven seed. And so now they will face the Knicks on Saturday. Nicholas Batum came off the bench, had a monster game with a season-high 20 points on six made threes. Excuse me. Joel Embiid led all scores with 23 points on six and 17 shootings, 15 rebounds, five assists. The Sixers winning the halftime down 51-39.

We're constantly booed by the Philly Faithful. We know how the Philly fans are. And they had 12 first-half turnovers. Philly bench got it going, led by Batum. They had 36 points. The bench did, led by Batum's 20. A pivotal block on Hero late in the fourth quarter to seal the game. This puts Philly into the playoff series as the number seven seed, which is huge because it lets them avoid the Boston Celtics in the first round.

The Knicks would be a tough matchup, no doubt. Jalen Brunson playing unbelievable. They did get Mitchell Robinson back. OG came back. OG Anan Mitchell Robinson back. OG came back. OG on Anubia's back. So this is going to be a tough matchup. According to Shams, Jimmy Butler is feared to have suffered an MCL injury and probably will miss the matchup.

Who would they play? They were playing the Miami Heat. No, the Miami, they played the Bulls because the Bulls won. No. The Bulls won. No. The Bulls won. The Heat played the Bulls. The Bulls beat the Hawks. The Hawks are eliminated.

Hawks, okay, okay, okay. You're right, you're right, you're right. Yeah, yeah. But listen, I don't think knowing Jimmy Butler, I don't know the extent of his injury, but knowing him, even though it's the MCL, I know that's very, very important. I don't think he's going to miss no time.

He's going to miss some time. If it's the MCL, he ain't playing. That's if it's the MCL. I think Shams is suggesting that's what it might be, right? He's not reporting that's what it is. Which one is it? What do you think? Because he continued playing the rest of the game.

But you know how injuries are. Sometimes you're able to finish the game because of adrenaline. Adrenaline, yeah. And you did that thing, and then that thing, you're like, whoo. Yeah, yeah. Because I've had a teammate, he tore his ACL on the first play on kickoff and played the rest of the game. Whoa, it must have been a partial tear.

Tear. Tore it. Oh, God, to hell. Hey, kept playing. a partial tear. Tear. Tore it. I don't got a heel. Hey, kept laying. Taped it up. Told him to knee hurt, but he'll be okay. Right.

Finished the game. ACL done for the season. So, tonight, let's see. Tyler Hero had 25 bam out Adebayo had 10. Jimmy Butler had 19. They got 10 points off the bench from Kevin Love.

And they got 15 off the bench from their rookie, Jaime Jaquez Jr. But they couldn't hold that lead because Nicholas Batum came off the bench. He made six of 10 threes. He was cutting up from three, man. I don't know who Buddy is. And, you know, we didn't, we didn't, me, we, I'm talking about we. Obviously, I'm from Miami, so I am a Heat fan for those that don't know. Watching the game, I thought we had the game in hand.

And the one thing that I've learned about the game of basketball, the times that I have watched it, I don't watch it very often, but obviously I'm locked in and focused because it was a playing game. I'm like, oh, well, goddamn, at the half, I'm like, you know what? I'm good. I'm going to go out here. I'm going to smoke a cigar and listen to a little bit of Frank Sinatra. And I'm going to come back for the fourth quarter because I know we're going to be up.

I come back in front of the TV. Well, goddamn, we down by two. I'm like, what the hell happened? Now, I understand the game of basketball is a game of runs. And I'm like, where'd Buddy come from? Buddy come from out of nowhere. And obviously, with Embiid not being

as healthy and effective as we're normally used to seeing him be when he's healthy, we're supposed to win this game. You're supposed to take advantage of him not being fully healthy and not being as effective as he normally is and we still lose miami played a lot of zone because obviously you don't have anybody to do

anything with joel and b no no and they forced them they forced the sixes to turn the ball over a lot in the first half because they was really stagnant they were just standing around like okay who's gonna do something you've got to swing ball. Sometimes the ball's got to touch the middle and then go to the weak corner or the strong corner. But they were just standing around. Once they started moving the balls, once they started, hey, everybody stopped standing around,

guys found creases, guys hit shots. Nicholas Batum was the biggest reason because all of a sudden he expanded because he started shooting over the top of the zone. And once he started shooting like that it pulls everything else out it pulls everything now you got the garden yep and now you could now joel and bead is able to find a little crease but like i said joe uh uh uh joe is not he's not healthy uh and that's very very unfortunate um but he still was able to give you 23, 15, 9 to 10 free throws.

He gets to the free throw line a lot. Kelly Oubre came on, played really well late in the game. Tyrese Maxey was Tyrese Maxey. They're going to need a little bit more out of Tobias Harris if they want to get past the Knicks. But I think this is going to be a great series. It has the potential to go at least six. I'm thinking probably seven games.

Wait, who you got in that series? Man, for me, if Joel Embiid was healthy, I would take Joel. I would take the Sixers all the way, 1,000%. Right. But you know what? Because Stephen A is going to take the Knicks, and I'm going to try to get a bet out of him. I ride with the Sixers.

I rock with the Sixers. I like it. I like it. But Jalen Brunson, I'm trying to think who's going to draw the assignment on Brunson. Probably Kelly Oubre.

Probably they'll run Oubre Jr. and Tobias Harris because those are their best perimeter defenders. Oh, Kyle Lowry. Kyle Lowry's a bulldog. He tough. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

He tough. Listen, it's tough. Everybody you just named, and that's no disrespect to those young fellas, but we on an ISO game, pick game. Even he taking him off the dribble in general. He's at an advantage from a skill set perspective. I like the length of Harris and Oubre versus Kyle Lowry.

I understand Kyle Lowry is tough, but I like 6'7", 6'8", 6'9", possibly defend him as opposed to Kyle Lowry being more his size. Your eyes light up. You're like, y'all got that little dude guarding me? Yeah, but then you put somebody 6'7", 6'9", up there against someone that's much faster and a little bit more skilled, he getting round and through that anyway. Nah. Unless you got help. Well, I mean, obviously.

But, you know, you got Sim 2 in there. You know, so he's still a very good defender. Yeah. So, but I think that's got to how to do it. But Maxie is going to have to have a phenomenal game. And I think he's more than capable of. So, I'm looking for a six or seven game series in that one. But like, as Shams is reporting, Jimmy Butler is feared to have suffered an MCL injury.

Remember, he reported, I think he reported last night about Zion and Hamstring. And Zion's not playing tomorrow night. So normally, look, Ocho, you know when they start reporting injuries. Now, they ain't just pulling this stuff out the sky. Oh, so somebody, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Especially somebody like Shams.

He know what he's talking about, huh? Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. So, the 76ers hold on to beat the Miami Heat 105-104. They're Yeah. Yeah. So 76 is hold on to beat the Miami heat. 105, 104. They're the seventh seed travel to New York.

Take on the two seed Knicks led by Jalen Brunson, who had a phenomenal year should be a, a all NBA. It's going to be very interesting because this is the first year you don't have positions, all NBA. You take the best five players. So you might have

yokich is going to be the center and you might have three guards you might have shake ilgis you might have brunson and you might have uh luca and then that leaves one spot right for jason tatum yannis or kd or lebron so it's going to be very very interesting how this thing plays or Jason Tatum, Giannis, or KD, or LeBron. So it's going to be very, very interesting how this thing plays out because I'm interested to see because it's going to be the first time that you might have three guards because normally you have a big, a five, a three, and a four, and a point, and a two. But now this is, hey, if the five best players are all bigs,

first team, all NBA, here we come. So I'm interested to see who makes up because that goes a long way because that determines who gets the max deals. You know, you make an all NBA team, you make an all defensive team with an MVP.

So now all of a sudden the contract is worth $ now all of a sudden the contract that's worth $250 all of a sudden goes to $350. So, I'm interested to see how that plays out. In the second game, Chicago... Wait, that goddamn

Kobe... Kobe White, what? Kobe White. 131-116 over the over the Hawks their season is over now Chicago Bulls travel to Miami to take on possibly

probably without Jimmy Butler the Miami Heat DeMar DeRozan had 22 Nikola Vucevic had 24 Kobe White 15-21 3-7 from the 3. 9 of 10 from the free throw line. 42 points.

Caruso got stepped on by Andre Drummond at 6. And DeSumo? DeSumo had 19. As they do an unbelievable job. Trey coming back. Didn't shoot the ball well from 3. Neither did Bogdanovich. and they lose 131-116 but like you said

Kobe White had it going tonight 42 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists 2 steals on 72% field goal shooting did somebody see you know what he did he said hold on I know a guy that used to play in this building that went to the school that I went to you know what what baby i have been one of them old joe at night listen perfect when

opportunity presents itself that's what happens when you take advantage of it injury i'm in showtime playing tournament what better way to show up than tonight's game for Kobe White? Now, what makes players from stars to superstars is being able to do what Kobe White did tonight and do it consistently. Can I consistently do it night in and night out? Maybe not 40-something a night,

but you getting that 25, that 30 range and do it consistently? Oh, man. They're going do it consistently, oh man. They're going to have to come see you. They're going to have to come see you. Yeah, Ocho, he's going to be in the running for most improved. He had an unbelievable season. I think he averaged right around 20 points

a game. Obviously, Malik Monks is going to be in the running. Nas Reed for the Minnesota Timberwolves. There are a couple of other guys. Norman Powell for the Clippers. But Kobe White had a phenomenal season. He couldn't have picked a better time.

Isn't he up for a contract? Or did he resign last year? Did they extend him last year? But he played absolutely unbelievable. That's what you need to have. You need to look. You count on Debo. DeMar DeRozan normally is going to give you a phenomenal night.

He's going to give you somewhere 20, somewhere in between 20, 25. You know what you're going to get with Vooch. Vooch is a double-double machine. He's going to give you somewhere 18 to 20 double-digit rebounds. So you know I'm counting on those guys. Now, you tell me that Kobe White is going to give me 25

because he normally give you 19 to 20. What do you normally have? Okay, so he's on the contract. Yeah, but what's the average for the seeds? Like 20 point 21, 20 point five. But he was right there

around a 20 point score, but he doubled it. Right. And so, man, 20.5. But he was right there around a 20-point score, but he doubled it. Right. Man, that's nice. 19.1. So, yeah, 19.20. But they got, you know, they did an unbelievable job tonight

on limiting on Trey, made him take some very tough and contested shots. DeJounte Murray played 46 minutes. Hunter played 42. Trey Young played 43. Wow. You got to. You ain't got no choice.

Oh, yeah. Hey, yeah. You go at home. Because Debo played 44. Kobe White played 43. DeSumo played 41. Did a great job making it tough on Trey. Because they started small.

They started DeSumo. They started Caruso. They started Kobe White, DeMar DeRozan, and Busevich. And that was to combat the three-guard lineup, Bogdanovich, DeJounte Murray, and Trey Young. So that was unbelievable. Kobe White,

he got it going early, and he didn't cool off late. Damn. So they play your Miami Heat. We probably going to win. You want to put something on it? You want to bet? I ain't even no gambling man, but for this right now, you know,

this is one thing. It all comes down to coaching, okay? Man, you ain't going to talk me to death. You want to bet yes or no? Sposher is the best coach in the NBA because he does the most with the least. Now, if you want to bet... Do you want to bet yes or no?

Put something on the floor, Fon. Put something on the floor, then. Put something on the floor. Make a light on yourself. Make a light on yourself. Well, my pockets is deep. What you trying to do? Talk to me.

Whatever you want. Make a light on yourself. Huh? What you want? I'm waiting on you. You call it. Make it loud on yourself. Huh? What you want? I'm waiting on you. You call it. You call it. I mean, you talking like you, like you what?

Huh? See, I don't want. You know what? Take your glasses off right quick. Take your glasses off. Let me see your eyes. See that look right there? Yeah.

That's what I want to bet. The look on your face when you lose. Nah. See, you scared. That's what I want. That's what I want right now. That's what I want right now. That's what I want right now. Hey, put that money up, huh?

Put that money up, now. I know I don't like to spend, but hey, come on now. Talk to me. Put it on the floor. If you put it on the floor, I guarantee I'm going to pick it up. $500. $500 what? $500.

$500. Oh, you bet. Man, $500. I saw You bet Man $500 Saw him coming I saw him coming I was just like I didn't want to do that I was like

I don't know about all that $500 Saw him coming That ain't nothing man That's Air Force One money What you trying to do? Ocho Talk to me

Ocho I got great news for you Andrew Reese Was watching She said Okay You fly Chad

I'm going to send you one Shout out to Are you one. Are you mad? Are you mad? Hey, appreciate that, Big Reese. Appreciate that, Big Reese. And don't forget, I gave you the nickname Big Reese when it catch on in Chicago.

Yeah. And I'm wearing my jacket to the game. I'm going to sit courtside in Chicago. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, niece. Keep Bayou Barbie. That thing, that's catchy. That real nice. That real nice.

And guess what? What? They're going to come out with a doll. Look, just like Angel Reese, Bayou Barbie. Ooh. Bayou Barbie, a.k.a. Big Reese. Yeah. Yeah.

That's it. That's what I'm talking about right there. I got me a jacket. Thank you, Angel. Thank you for watching. We appreciate that. And best of luck this year, your rookie season in the WNBA. I know you're going to do well.

Don't forget to eat McDonald's. We saw you working on that three ball, that tray ball. It was good, too. Keep it going. Keep it going. Don't forget your McDonald's. Nah, nah. Don't going. Keep it going. Tell her don't forget your McDonald's. Nah, nah. Don't eat that book.

Don't eat that. Don't eat that. She's in training right now. She's getting ready for the season. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I did. You eat McDonald's and get ready for the season. It's all about preparation.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's time for our first segment of the night, and it's a news cap. News cap. Newscap. Zion Williamson will not play in the Pelicans' playing game on Friday because of a hamstring injury. Zion brought his best against LeBron and the Lakers last night, only for the worst to happen once again. As great as he is, how can a Pelican commit to a player

who can't stay on the floor? Various injuries have limited Zion, although he played like 70-plus games this year. Yeah. And the number one overall pick, although he played like 70 plus games this year. Yeah. And the number one overall pick. And he showed you last night was a glimpse of why. Forty, eleven and five before he went out of the ballgame. Yeah. And he had it going in five NBA seasons. He's been limited to one hundred and eighty four of a possible four hundred and ten games. Man, boy, the Lakers, hey, I was nervous. Oh, yeah, listen, if he, listen, I watched the game.

Now, if Zion doesn't go out, if Zion doesn't go out, I don't know if the Lakers get away with that one. Yeah, look. I don't know if they get away with that one. Maybe he had me nervous. That boy playing some ball, you hear me? Yeah, he was playing some ball. And I heard some you

just said when you were talking about how does the team commit to someone who constantly continues to get injured you know how when you get performances like that before you before you got injured because how many people can come in there or how many players in the nba can come in in a playing game and just at any point drop 40 like it's nothing and do it consistently. In the paint, strong. Mid-range, strong. I'm not sure how he is at the perimeter. I'm not sure about that.

No, that's not his game. His game is getting his game. Yeah, it's in the paint. When it comes to driving and in the paint or, man, playing with it back to the basket, well, he's special now. Oh, he's special. I mean, the way he can contort his body, a man that size and slithery, the way he can contort his body, a man that size is slithery.

The way he can bounce one bounce, miss the shot, back up again. He's very, very nimble for a man that size. He's not supposed to be able to move like he does at that size. God didn't make a whole lot of people like Zion Williamson. And he's a very, very special talent. I think he understands that right some of that you know like i said a lot of these injuries ocho is because a man his size is not supposed to be able to do what he does yeah you know an 18 wheeler is not supposed to go at 150

miles an hour and stop like a smart car that's what're asking. You're asking a man that size to have that level of explosiveness up, down, up, down hundreds of times a night over an 82-game season. Well, listen, he plays 70 this year, which is very good. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So that means he's doing something right.

The team that he has around him is doing something right. Now, the one thing that worries me with the Pelicans going forward is obviously he had a great game. He had 40-11, and I'm not sure what the rebounds were. 40-11 is rebounds. He had 40 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists.

Oh, 5 assists. Okay, my bad. But Brandon Ingram and C.J. McCollum shot a combined 8-for-27. Yes. 8 for 27. So what do they need to do to make sure if Zion is out, that means them two got to be on fire, basically.

They got to be at least giving you 20, 25 apiece along with the supporting cast as well. CJ had an off night last night. Prior to that game, he was scorching from the three-point line. He was shooting over 50% from the three-point line over the last seven, eight games. He was off.

B.I. just got back Sunday because he had missed 12 games. And so, no, they got him on a minutes restriction. Why would they do that? Wait, I mean, I understand a minute restriction, but why would you allow, why would you put him on a minute restriction when the game is of importance like that? They say we understand it's important, but we...

Now you got to play the Kings. So what you going to do with him next when it's time to play the Kings? You just got to put him out there. The only way to get back is by playing basketball or any sport. Yeah. But, you know, the thing is with these, see you looking at it from a football perspective.

Yes, sir. They looking at it from a basketball perspective because what we do in football, they say, you only going to play X amount of, you only going to play one side of the ball anyway. So you never want to. I mean, occasionally they might say, OK, getting back, we're going to let you go 20 plays. We're going to let you go.

But as a basketball player. I got you got to go because guess what? You're on offense and then you got to go play defense. And they're saying, you know what? We rather have Brandon. And that's why they're very cautious with Zion. Because like you said, we saw what he's capable of doing. He's a generational talent.

We've got to keep him healthy as we possibly can. But this was a freak injury. Think about it. He goes up and dunks the ball. He's coming down the court. He hears himself say, hey, come get me. He knows something immediately. Athletes know that about him.

He knew it immediately. As soon as he started running up the court, what did he do? He threw his hand up and said, come get me. He knows something immediately. Athletes know that about him. He knew it immediately. As soon as he started running up the court, what'd he do? He threw his hand up, said, come get me. They came and got him, and that's what happened. So, it's very, very unfortunate. It's gonna be a very tall task to be the very, very talented

Sacramento Kings team, led by D. Fox, De'Aaron Fox. Swiper. It's sensational. Can get to the basket. Can shoot the three mid-range. He's super, super quick.

So bonus, double-double King. Keegan Murray had an outstanding game last night shooting the three ball. This is a very, very difficult. This is a very dangerous team. And without Zion and possibly B.I. on a minutes restriction. Right. Oh, it's going to take

Herb Jones, Trey Murphy III, and CJ. It's going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting. Yeah. A lot of heavy lifting. And Grand Theft Alvarado,

he got his hair cut out with Swipe of Fox. Oh, yeah. Hey, man, he be putting them on skates. I mean, well, shit, well, man, he be putting them on skates. I mean, well, shit, well, hell,

when I think about it, what do you get the production from with Zion being out? So that means everything is on Brandon Ingram, is on CJ McCollum.

Well, they have to damn near be so efficient from the field and kind of make up for the lost production with Zion being out. Right. But they can get hot.

There's one thing about them. They can get hot from the three. Yeah. But they can get hot. There's one thing about them. They can get hot from the three. Yeah. And they can shoot you out of the gym from the three, especially CJ, Trey, and a Herb. Yeah. And so they're going to have to rely a lot on the three ball. Valanchunas is going to have to do a hell of a job because the one thing about

Sabonis, he will crash the board. And you can ill afford to give team second chance in so many cracks and because eventually those shots are going to go in those second chance is going to go in right so those second chance points starts to pile up as the offensive rebounds start to pile up so those they're going to have to be on their best effort there's no question about that so that's what happens they play tomorrow night right they play tomorrow night, right? They play tomorrow night. Friday? Oh, hell, I'm thinking tonight, Thursday.

They play Friday night, and when do Miami play? Saturday? Yes, Miami play Saturday. Okay. So that's it. Both games on Friday? Man, what you call them guys shafted? Miami and Philly

they really got the NBA announced Wednesday that Jonte Porter I did not know this but he's the brother of Michael Porter Jr. for the Denver Nuggets has been banned for life from the league

due to his violation of gambling rules Jonte Murray got banned for life from the league due to his violation of gambling rules. John T. Murray got banned for life for $20,000. Ocho, in his NBA playing career, he made basically $2.4 million. In gambling on the NBA, he made about $22,000. You see what I say, Ocho? You hustling backwards. Now, you tell me the situation where you say, you know what? Hey, check this out. Ocho, bet 2.4 million for a chance to win 22,000.

Man, I don't understand it. I don't understand it. I think that's an addiction at that point. I think that's an addiction at that point when you're actually playing the game and betting on the game that you're actually playing in. I can see if it's betting on other sports or betting in other areas of or aspects of life yes you can bet on but your own games that you're playing in just to earn a little extra now i i understand i in in a sense i want to see it from his perspective as far as you know what i don't make it i don't make it i don't make, I don't make as much money as some of these other fools are making, and I need a little

extra on the side. Okay. Guess what? You're not going to be making nothing what they're making now. Guess what you're going to be doing? You're about to go get your regular you're about to go, nothing wrong with that. But people are going to look at you like you got to be the biggest damn fool because you made 2.4 million and

you lost your entire career for $22,000. Yeah, you're right about that. How big a fool must you be? Yeah. Matter of fact, you talk about 2.4, slice that in half too, baby.

Okay, 1.3. Slice that in half. Well, how much are we taking off this 20? How much are we taking off this 22? Because you got to pay taxes on that too. So how much are we slicing off that? You know what's funny? It's bad all the way around.

Either way, it's bad all the way around. I mean, him actually gambling, and obviously you know the reason why he was doing it. It's only because he wasn't making the same other players make. That's ridiculous, man. It's the thrill, Ocho. It's the thrill.

Why you think Michael Jordan go and bet $100,000 a hand? He went to because the only thing that gives you that rush of the sport that you played is that. Because it's like you don't know what's going to happen. You're like, you sit there, hey, you playing blackjack. You wait, okay. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They put that face card up.

Come on, Ace. Come on, Ace. Come on, Ace. Come on. Give it to me. That's the only thing that give you that rush. Right, right, right. Bro.

Oh, man. That's what makes it make sense. And people stop. Stop saying, well, they have gambling. They bet. You can't. Mm-hmm. You can't bet.

I don't know what it was, but when I was in there, they had a big sign. Right. When you walked in the room, no gambling on the football games. Yeah. No gambling. Yeah. You want to bet on the ponies? Don't bet on football if you're a football player.

Don't bet on basketball if you're an NBA player. Yeah. How hard is that to comprehend? I mean, people, you know what? People drive me crazy when they say stuff. Well, they got gambling and they lot of these. Well, stop having these parlors. Stop. Stop. Yeah. Listen, I mean, of course, the public is going to make excuses for them. We have sponsorship. We have deals. We have all these other things that are going on. But as players, if they say you can't gamble, you can't gamble. And I don't think it starts now. I think the gambling stems from you doing it long before you even made it. Long before you even made it. Because anything that's an addiction,

when you get to the pinnacle of your childhood dream, you made it to the NBA, you made it to the NFL, or whatever sport you might play. If it says there is no gambling, it should be very easy not to gamble. It's the fact that at this point, even though you might play, if it says there is no gambling, it should be very easy not to gamble. It's the fact that at this point, even though you made it, now it's become an addiction that started long before you even made it. I think that's the problem.

Ocho, we all did stuff. I mean, shoplifted, stole or something. Damn, damn. But you know, but you know, but you know when you got to be an adult, you can't go in stores and shop lift. You know you can't take things. So this notion

where he had this, no, he did not have this problem because he had no money. Right. What the hell he gambling on? Well, you know, you to play small, get like me with the quarters, you know, you got, you play little small stuff with your homeboys. Get like rest of America and go out and get another job. That's what you have to do. That's the get like he talking about, right?

That's what you're talking about? Hey, matter of fact, hold on. Yeah. Did y'all play that when you was little? Remember the quarters? Get like me? Yeah. Y'all might have had a different name for it, though.

Yeah, yeah. We play ahead. We flip the court, get like me. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, for sure. I'm like, bro. That's what I don't get. I said the same. People got upset at me for what I said about Calvin Ridley,

and I'm glad he was able to come back. Right, right. But I'm like, bro, think about this. He lost $11 million one year to try to win $1,500, $2,000. Do y'all understand? So if I gave you $11 million, I'd say here's $11 million, but I want you to wager to try to win $2,500, to try to win $3,000. Y'all will look at me like I'm a damn fool.

So how y'all looking at these professional athletes that know they can gamble, make the kind of money that they're making. Oh, Joe, even if he make it, how many people in the real world you think is going to make $2.4 million in their lifetime? Yeah. He's made that in a couple of years.

Yeah. So nobody's going to have empathy for him yeah i'm gonna give somebody i'm gonna give the chat 11 million dollars now i need you guys to wager that to try to win 3 000 you know what i like y'all i want you to what you know what i like y'all so much i want you to put your 10 to 11 million up to try to win 100,000. How big of a fool must you be? Yeah. You know at times when you have money. It says you can't get

on your own. It says you can't. Yeah. And you gonna bet. You take the under. You betting on your own team. At least that you know I don't want no part of this. Yeah. I don't want no part of this. Yeah. I don't want to, he better,

take the over, take the, and the guy he giving the information to, he won 1.8. He won 22,000. You lost your career giving somebody else some information.

And guess what? The bookie dimed him out. He said, he telling me with the game that he was hurt. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That was being reported. The bookie snitched on him?

Boy, when them fans come, they'll make you tell them everything they need to know. Your social security number. You're damn right. Oh, they pinched him. Okay, okay, okay. I was going to say. They did more than pinch him.

15. His name is Yes Sir. They can do that? I'm going to tell them everything. I'm going to say, let me tell y'all what happened when Ocho was in the third grade. We had this teacher named Miss Thompson. He flared her tires. You know what?

I'm going to tell them everything they need to know. Hold on. 15 what? They threatened him with 15 what? Yells. Oh my. And there's a, well, I can't, hey, Ocho, I swear to God, I had a homeboy. He told the judge, gave him 25 years. He said, well, I can't, I swear to God, I had a homeboy.

He told the judge gave him 25 years. He said, judge, I can't do all that time. The judge told him, say, do what you can. I don't know how much you can do,

but do what you can. He said, I can't do, he said, judge, I can't do all that time. The judge told him, do what you time the judge told him do what you can whatever you can do

just do that hey that's funny that's funny just do what you can do what you can Ocho but I don't know Ocho I don't get people I don't

Listen, it's one thing about it We love to do things That are illegal In life in general We never think about The consequences We always think We're going to be able

To get away with it Or we're always in a position Where we somewhat feel invisible Based on the occupation Yes That we have Because we got money And you think you're invisible

But boy Uncle When you get in trouble And you're invisible. But boy, Uncle Unc, when you get in trouble and you're in front of them people and they start wringing off them years, matter of fact, they don't even tell you in years,

they tell you in months. They tell you in months. They tell you in months purposely so it don't seem like that long until you add that shit up. Yeah! Oh, I got 240 months. Man, there ain't no time.

I could do all that time. Man. Add it up. Had another homeboy. He got 240 months, Ocho. He's like, that ain't nothing. He's like, hold on. He started counting.

Right. Oh, that's 12 months in a year. Yeah. 10 years? That's 120 months. OK, we're going to combine that. It's 20 years. He fainted.

Yeah. Yeah. Just say, tell him when he wake up, he still got 240 months. Ain't that changing? That's what I'm saying. Ocho, what did I tell you? Two people can keep a secret.

Yeah. Well, I'm got to be dead. Oh, yeah. That bookie knew something. How you think they found out about Shohei Ohtani's situation? FBI was investigating the bookie. Guess what? I got some information.

How many years you gonna take off mine? I can do how many years? I get probation? And what I need to do? Man, dude came in here. Let me tell you, it was a Wednesday. Okay, let me tell you what. He came in here Wednesday me tell you what it was a Wednesday okay let me tell you what he came here Wednesday about four o'clock telling it all everything as a matter of fact I know it's social security number wrote it down yeah yeah every time we that's hey that's... Hey, when you come to me with something...

Yeah. If it's illegal... Yeah. Oh, I don't want nothing to do with that. As a matter of fact, stop talking. Mm-hmm. Don't even tell you why. Don't even talk to me about nothing illegal.

Right. Mm-mm. Man, I had a... I had a homeboy. He done got pinched. And, you know, he ain't got no credit, but, you know, he wanted to, hey, hey, I need you

to do this solid for me. I was like, what? I'm going to give you this cash. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. And you go buy the car for me. I said, oh, no. Oh, no. Never. Oh, never.

Mm-mm. Mm- never. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Oh, no. I could never. Hey. Guess what? Guess what's going to happen when he get pinched?

Uh-huh. He going to say you bought it for me? He going to say, my cousin, my homeboy. Boy. Oh, he playing the NFL. You know my cousin? You know my homeboy? No, who your homeboy?

Who your cousin? Shannon Shaw. Oh, really? Yeah. Do tell. Now you going down. Because I try to help him. Oh, no.

I could never. No. Oh, man. I could never. No. Oh, man. Hey, one thing about it. The streets or the people that do illegal stuff, they always live by this code. Snitching is so bad.

Snitching is this, snitching is that. But as soon as you in that room and it's cold and they throw them numbers in front of you, everybody always telling. A day. You ain't going to do no day? Huh? You could have never told me.

I could never do nothing for you like that. No way. One day you can't do one day? Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't been down there. I ain't trying to go back. I can't do no time. Hell nah. God damn. Uncle, day number 24 hours? Think about how it was when you was COVID. Hell no. God damn. Uncle, day number 24 hours? Yeah. Hey, think about how it was when you was COVID

and how people was losing their mind. Right, right. And you still could go outside. You just couldn't go into a public building. Right. You was free. You could get in your car, drive up and down 95, 16, 17. It's empty.

Imagine, you can't go nowhere. Right. And I got all this money. Oh, no. I could never do that, Ocho. Please, no. So don't even come with me. Hey, if it ain't on the up and up.

Right. I don't want no part of it. No part of it. I got faith. Nope. I feel you. Oh, no. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.

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