Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: FSU's awful loss, Brian Kelly's harsh words

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Florida State losing to Boston College, Brian Kelly calling out his players after their loss to USC, and much more!04:40 - Introduction05:37 - FSU loses to BC41:00 - Brian Kelly's Harsh comments58:30 - Dolphins Super Bowl Bound?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let me see if I can get this name right. DJ Uyan Ghalali. Did I say it right, Ocho? Just say DJ U. DJ Uyan DJ U. DJ Uyagale. Matter of fact, DJ Unbelievable. Because his performance tonight was unbelievable. Yeah, Ocho.

I mean, you do realize he was at Clemson before Trevor Lawrence got there. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence has been in the league like three, four years. Yes, sir. What does that tell you? If I'm not mistaken, he's on his third team this is his third third team clemson oregon state now fsu um that performance wasn't good enough ocho uh you watched the game talking to us about what you saw i'm upset it makes me sick

as a resident of the state of florida i'm embarrassed i'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. The best football team in Tallahassee is Florida A&M. Performances like tonight is why coaches get fired. DJU, you have to play better. You can't compete at any level, whether it's peewee, junior high, flag football, college, high school, in the NFL. NFL it comes down the most important position on the field the quarterback position the team goes as the quarterback goes tonight it just wasn't good it wasn't good I'm not sure if he's the best fit I'm not sure if he's the best option but if Florida State wants to compete the rest of the season they're

going to have to make a decision at the quarterback position unless magnificent magnificent oh my goodness magnificently the quarterback turns around turns it around in some way shape form of fashion he would his confidence right now on his confidence is shot his confidence is shot. His confidence is shot. Shout out to Brian. I'm talking about Bill. Shout out to Bill O'Brien on having a Boston College team that was ready to play, especially defensively.

I love the quarterback, Castanelos. Did I say that right? Castanelos. Castellanos? Yeah. Castellanos. You know?

He played some good football. He played some good football. Robichaud ran hard. Caught the ball well out of the backfield. Listen, on third down, Florida State was 3-14, man. Well, you gonna lose. Hey, listen.

3-14. Yeah. Like, on a video game, if you're playing NCAA, college 25, you can go better than three for 14. I'm expecting, I'm thinking about the Florida States of the old, the Florida States of the old with the Charlie Wards and the Peter Warks and the Boulwares and the Marvin Snoop Menace. Man, they got to be upset. They got to be upset. Fans that are, people that are fans man, they got to be upset. They got to be upset. People that are fans of Florida State have to be upset.

You can't have that kind of performance. For one, way out there in Ireland, again, Georgia Tech, and then come home in your home stadium, and play like that. These are the kind of performances by a team that get head coaches fired.

Somebody going to have to answer. Because it doesn't get any easier. I forgot, looking at the schedule, I forgot who Florida State has next. Might have been, might be Memphis or something like that. Yeah.

They need a game where they can string things together. They weren't in where they can string things together. They weren't in sync. The quarterback and the receivers tonight, it seemed like almost every ball was off. There was no chemistry. Seemed like they hadn't even practiced before. Like easy layup stuff.

Comeback routes, curl routes, sitting in zone, ball to the left, ball to the right, ball hitting the floor before it gets to the receivers well you know i don't i don't know i don't know what was going on from what i saw goddamn fam you quarterback right now matter of fact he can come right now and do better than what i just saw tonight come on man mr easy throwing a seven route on the goal line he had a situation they switched how do you miss that throw it out of bounds and you had to set up for a field goal that's a touchdown that changes the game itself yeah um 100 of the balls thrown out of bounds are incomplete so i don't know if he thought that was you know it's canada the field was a lot wider than what it was um but he struggled

i mean he struggled i mean you know he played. If you look at his freshman year, I thought the kid, because he played so well, he had a couple of 400-yard games, if I'm not mistaken, his freshman year. I thought, man, if this kid stay on this trajectory, he's going to be a top-five pick. Big kid. He's like 6'4", 6'5", 240, big-time arm. All the intangibles.

All the intangibles. I think the thing is, there's nothing wrong losing your job to Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence turned out to be the number one pick in the draft, first pick in the draft. It's just like Jalen Hurst losing his job to Tua. Tua was a top five pick. Ain't no shame in that, Ocho. Ain't no shame in losing your job to a top five.

Yeah, but okay. You didn't like the way now you come in and you're still struggling. And the new guy, Klibnick, I think he takes your job. And now you go to Oregon State and you don't find happiness there and you don't play well there. You come to Florida State and it's two games in. There's a reoccurring theme here. You're the only common denominator of it.

If you say, okay, Clemson, Oregon State, and Florida State, the only common denominator of it. If you say, okay, Clemson, Oregon State, Florida State, the only common denominator is you. Yeah, his confidence is shot. His confidence is shot. I'm not sure who FSU plays next, but he needs to string some things together, starting in practice. It all starts with whoever's calling the plays

out there, Florida State, to build his confidence up. Start him small, swing pass, out there, Florida State, to build his confidence up. Start him small. Swing pass. You know, quick smoke. Just to get him in rhythm. Get him in rhythm to get his confidence back. Because if he's going to be the starter,

if he's going to be the starter for the rest of the season, for the remainder of the season, since, you know, Mike Norville got his Ushabun. Because if you put up another performance like that, well, the AD is going to come calling. For sure. The booster is going to come calling.

Somebody is going to come knocking. Right. You had, you scored 37, 37, if I think maybe 37 points a game last year. Well, they had Jordan Travis, who was outstanding before he hurt his leg. And that's probably one of the reasons they got blown out in the game against Georgia. You know, they were complaining about not making the college football playoffs.

Alabama got their spot. No shame because Alabama went down to the SEC championship and beat Georgia. Georgia had lost the game in two years. They had won back-to-back national championships. Looked like they were going for a three-peat. So I don't think anybody's shocked that Alabama jumped Florida State considering they had lost their starting quarterback. Had the starting quarterback still been in there, Ocho?

I think that would have been a very difficult sell. But they knew with the backup, they weren't going to even come close. I don't think they thought Georgia was going to bump them like this, but it happened. But when you go on the road, and they were favored to beat Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech is a lot better than I think people thought. With that being said, Florida State, you went 13-0 last year. You returned.

I get it. Jordan Travis is gone. Keon Coleman is gone. And you probably lost. I think you lost a defensive lineman also. But you should be better than this. I mean, the polls had you ranked top 10. They had you, obviously, had you ranked top 10 for a reason.

And when you came out and you didn't, they haven't played well, but it comes down to the quarterback. The quarterback hasn't played well. He hadn't played well in a very, very long time, Ocho. Yeah. And with that being said it ain't it's it's it's not it's not looking good for Florida State now Mike Norvell they chose Mike Norvell over time time what that's

time's album model he played at Florida State had a story career there uh uh uh and they chose Mike Norvell could you imagine could you imagine if prime was that florida state man can you imagine the recruits they would have could you imagine how he could have turned that program around into being like the seminole football teams of the early 90s, the 2000s. I'm thinking about it. Okay, the quarterback play is subpar. It's not up to par. But there was a time Keon Coleman's gone, there was always

somebody next in line. When somebody leaves Alabama, there's somebody next in line. When somebody leaves LSU, there's always the next dog in line. I'm not sure what happened. At what point did we lose recipes when it comes to the Florida teams, FSU, UM, and the Gators.

You ever the time when the big boys left, there was always another dog in line to keep it rolling. So if the quarterback position is subpar, there was always some dogs at receiver that can make up for the lack of quarterback play or lack of consistency at the quarterback play because they were just that good. Not everybody spread out all over the place. Everybody spread out all over the place.

I look at some of the young bulls down at down in Ohio State. Jeremiah Smith. I think I said his name right. He went to Ohio State. Come right from Chaminade. You know, Jerry Judy, all the receivers that should, I would like them to stay home and play for their home team. Can you imagine all them stayed home and played?

Look at Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper left. Most of those guys left. Everybody left. So now, let's say, okay, you can't get a quarterback. But then you always have those dogs in line at the receiver position. You know what? All we have to do is just put it in his hands or put it in the area.

Just put the ball in the vicinity and they will do the rest. They'll make it work. It ain't the same no more. It ain't the same no more. I think if you got – I'm not saying he's going to have the same type of success, but I think it would have been a very similar situation to when Kirby Smart went back to Georgia because Kirby played at Georgia and it's like, okay,

I got came home. That had been a very similar situation with, with prime going to Florida state. But you know, whatever they made their decision, they wanted to go with Mike Norvell. And, and I think he went,

what'd he go? He went 13 and old last year. The quarterback gets hurt. They go, I think he went, what, what'd he win his first year, eight and five, maybe nine and hurt. They go, I think he went, what? What did he win his first year? Eight and five, maybe nine and four.

So it's not like, but when the standard is what Florida State is, especially what Coach Bowden, not the last couple of years withstanding, is that there's an expectation level. In these schools, you know, there's an expectation level that, as you said, like, you know, with Coach Bowden in the 80s and the 90s, you know, they they got they had great players. All the Florida schools got a lot of the Florida players. They weren't going to Alabama. They weren't going to Ohio State. They stayed at home. Now they're starting to spread out.

They're going to Ohio State. They're going to the University of Alabama. They're going to Georgia. They're going to Michigan. And so now all of a sudden, you know, it used to be, Ocho, if you could just recruit the state of Florida, you're going to be straight. Now you go to Ohio, get your go to Midwest and get you a couple of those big old linemen. But if you can recruit the state of Florida,

you're with Gucci. Well, it's getting harder and harder to recruit the state of florida because they're not putting out the pros like alabama like ohio state like somebody like georgia you see georgia every year churning out defensive players you see alabama every year churning out offensive and defensive players you see ohio state you get chase young you get the bosa brothers you get those stringer receivers going out of there you get the Bosa brothers, you get those stringer receivers going out of there. You get the offensive

linemen. So they start to see that level. Hey, Florida, when's the last time y'all put multiple players in the first round in the NFL? Miami, when? FSU. So now Ochoa is starting to dissipate a little bit and it's getting harder and harder to recruit because

they see Amari Cooper. Man, Amari Cooper went top five. They see Jerry Judy. They see all of these other receivers going. And what's the other guy that he was at Atlanta, then he goes to Jacksonville, now he's at Tennessee. I think he's a Florida kid, isn't he? Calvin Ridley.

Where's Ridley from? Is Ridley from Florida or Alabama? You know what? I'm not sure. I'm not sure where Cal's from. I You know what? I'm not sure. I'm not sure where Cal's from. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I just, I don't know. You got to do better than this, Ojo.

The quarterback has to play better. I mean, if he doesn't, you're not going to win. Now, the ACC is not what it once was. You basically, you got Clemson. We'll see what Louisville is going to be. I don't know if they got Notre Dame on the schedule this year. But DJ, 21 of 42, 272, one touchdown, one interception. 50% in college is not good.

No. It's not good in college. 50% in college, 50% used to be like 55% was really good in the NFL under the old rules. Now, if you're not completing 65% damn near 70% of your pass in the NFL with the way the rules are and the way the field is spaced,

man, 50%, you trash. You definitely not good in college if you only completing 50% of your passes. But they got to do... Damn. They do. FSU do play for Notre Dame at Notre Dame.

Wow. Wait, who does Florida State play next? Who do they play next? They play Memphis, if I'm not mistaken. They play Memphis. What, they play Memphis next week? At home, the 14 14th at home.

Man, listen. What if they lose to Memphis, huh? So they got to buy. So they play, okay. Yeah. They got some decisions to make. They say Rill is from Lauderdale. Somebody in the chat said Rill is from Lauderdale.

Oh, he's from the crib? Okay, okay. I ain't even know Rill from the crib. Yeah. So, oh. I ain't even know real from the crib. Yeah. So oh, he lose to Memphis? Oh, Billy Napier. They might get him up out of there. Yeah. Oh, and listen.

It's not looking pretty because in order to beat Memphis, if I'm not mistaken. I meant Mike Novell. But Billy Napier better get on the ball, too. As a matter of fact, let's go ahead and transition. The biggest disappointment, though, has been the 7-0 front. Seven expected to be one of the best defensive line in the country.

FSU was carved up for 190 yards, 5.2 yards to carry, and it's open and lost in Dublin. And they were... Oh. Oh. I'm looking at this, and as you put this, that... And it's open and lost in Dublin. And they were... Oh. Oh. Oh, I'm looking at this. And as you put this, that...

Guess who? The number two ranked quarterback. The number one ranked quarterback coming out, dual, was Bryce Young. DJ was number two. CJ Stroud was number three. When they was coming out of high school. Right.

Long ago, lately. Where did DJ go to high school at. Where did DJ go to high school at? Where'd he go to high school at? Oh, that's in Jersey, isn't it? California. He went to St. John Bosco. So all three of them from California. Oh, he went to St. John Bosco? Yeah. Okay, okay. All three of them from California. Yeah, Bell Flyer, California.

And CJ from Rancho Cucamonga. Damn, man. And CJ from Rancho Cucamonga. Damn, man. See, he was 6'4 and a half, 246 pounds. CJ was 6'2 and a half, 194. Bryce Young was 5'11, 183. Bryce was number one. CJ was number two. I mean, DJ was number two, and CJ was number three.

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Himself. The coaches can only hide so much. The coaches can only hide so much. At some point, you got to step up and play ball. Yeah. At some point, you got to step up and play ball.

My whole mentality in general, I don't play the quarterback position. How can I make my coaching job easy easy how can I make the players around me better how can I do that as a quarterback I want to be able to make those play calls

as easy as possible being able to make all the throws whether it be short whether it be intermediate whether it be deep balls how do I do that by being efficient. I could call

all the players if I want, but if the guy, I can give you a job, but if you can't operate the equipment, what am I supposed to do? That's all confidence. I'm looking at a young fella out there tonight playing with no confidence. So what happened to Clemson?

Okay, you lost his confidence. Okay, what happened to Oregon State? Okay, let's just say you lost his confidence. So what happened at Clemson? Okay, you lost his confidence. Okay, what happened at Oregon State? Okay, let's just say he lost his confidence.

Okay, at Florida State. At what point in time is it him, Ocho? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And then what happens is you're playing

against competition that I'm assuming is a little better. You know, at Clemson, I'm not sure if he was there with Trevor Lawrence

when he was at Clemson. Well, hell, you know you're not starting over him. I'm not sure's a little better. You know, at Clemson, I'm not sure if he was there with Trevor Lawrence when he was at Clemson. Well, hell, you know you're not starting over him. I'm not sure. What was he at? Was he there with Trevor or he came in after Trevor got there? Why the hell would you go there if Trevor was there? Listen, I have no idea. He was the guy.

From the time he was like 17, he was like, okay, this is going to be the number one pick. It's the same thing as Matthew Stafford. They're like, oh, he's going to be the number one pick of the draft. The way he can spin the football, the way he can throw the ball,

he's going to be the number one pick. Yeah. His first year, he came in, he was in the 2020 class. So he came in uh trevor was probably so that made trevor was a senior a junior because trevor started as a well he played right away so yeah he didn't register right okay damn man k club nick K. Klubnick and then at Oregon State at Oregon State he

couldn't beat out whoever the starter was there I forgot Young Bull that was there last year no he played Ocho if the thing is if you struggle throwing the ball why the hell you going to Oregon with that weather it rains it sleet it snows it's cold it's windy

you better stay your ass in the South. Damn. Well, he's in the South now. He right here, sunshine. Oh. Missing the easiest throws. It looked like they had never practiced before. Oh, so, Ocho, has it ever dawned on you?

He might not be it. That's why I said his confidence is shot. Has it ever dawned on you? He might not be it. That's why I said his confidence is shot. To be coming out of high school and be ranked number two in between C.J. Stroud and Bryce Young, there's something about you that everyone saw. 6'4", 240. With the same John Bosco. I know. I know. And With the same time, Bosco, I know.

I know. And at the quarterback position, the first thing, once your confidence is shot, it affects everything else. Everything else. Ocho. That's why at the highest level in NFL, you have to have a very short memory. As a DB, you got to have a short memory. You get

beat, boom, on to the next play. As a receiver, you drop a ball, you know what? Boom, fuck it, on to the next play. What happens if you got confidence and you're not good? Then what do you do? Hey, listen, I don't know anybody that's not good that got confidence. You can have confidence and not be good at something. You

absolutely can. You absolutely can be good at something. Have all the confidence in the world. You got to have some type of self-awareness. If you have self-awareness, there's no way in hell you're not good and confident at the same time. The two don't even go together. But see, that's the thing with an athlete.

Sometimes our greatest attributes is our greatest liabilities also. It gives us performance. Man, I'm really... Everybody was good at high school. If you go to college, is our greatest liabilities also. It gives us performance. Man, I'm really... Everybody good.

Everybody was good in high school. If you go to college, and guess what? You go to the NFL, everybody, for the most part, 85% of the players was all conference, all American,

all something. At some point in time, if you were in the NFL, you was all something at some level. All state, all conference, all this, all that, all American won this award. You was something. And sometimes it just comes down to, you know what, hey, you just go to a level and that's it.

That's as far as you're meant to go. So you think DJ has hit hit his ceiling you think as a quarterback i think that might be a possibility that just made and that's okay everybody there are a million kids that come out and go to college every year all million of them ain't going to the nfl oh wait a minute what if this is the issue what if the fact that he doesn't have the supporting cast that a bryce a C.J. Stroud had he was at Clemson do you know what come out of Clemson they were playing for national championships

I mean I don't know I don't know it's tough I don't like what I saw but hey, it's tough. I don't, I don't, I don't like, I don't like what I saw, but I get what you say. When a guy comes out as heralded as he is. Yeah.

With this, he has all the physical attributes, everything that you can look at and says, that's what a quarterback should look like. Six foot four and a half, 240 plus pound, big, sturdy body can make every throw on the field.

And so when you look at all the measurables, that's it. You're saying to yourself, man, give Bryce Young that body. Let Bryce Young be 6'4 and a half, instead of 5'8, maybe 5'9,

5'10, 5'11, 180 pounds. Give him that body with his makeup. Right. But everybody, I mean, God ain't give Tom Brady Lamar Jackson legs. Yeah, yeah.

Listen, you gotta work with what you got. I can't give you everything, Ocho. Yeah. So you walk Steph Curry to be able to be like LeBron. 6'9", can come down here and shoot the ball. What? And shoot the ball like that? How is that fair? So, I don't know what it is, but I definitely

thought after watching him for a couple of games, because when he came in for Trevor Lawrence, Ocho, he threw for like 400 yards. Because I think Trevor Lawrence got hurt. Didn't Trevor Lawrence miss a couple games? And he came in, Ocho, and I'm talking about he lit it up. On fire, huh? Look at, that's what I said.

That's what I said. The supporting cast he had out there. Yeah, well, look at you just asking those games. You heard me? I guarantee you I'm right. The supporting cast he had out there. The supporting cast the supporting cast will save you

every time now and when you got when you got them dogs surrounding you they will save you every time but guess what those dogs probably said man you hurting our chance

to get to the league because now you got us looking like we can't play right damn I know one thing the best collegiate football team in Tahassee is florida a&m matter of fact fam you might be florida state based on what i saw tonight

no that's how i'm feeling um because you definitely, I remember going to camp my rookie year. Man, Ocho, man, the quarterback was so bad. I'm like, man, I'm not going with you in the one-on-one. I'm backing up. You're not going to get both of us cut because I see the way you're throwing. You're going to get cut. You're going to have me out here. You're going to have Coach Reed.

I'm thinking out here, I can't do this. Oh, no. Mm-mm. Nope. Nope. Man. Hey, listen, he got a week to get it together. Get your confidence back. I know that's what it is.

Young Bull got to get his confidence back. I hope so. And he need them receivers. The receivers got to help him out. Yeah. They got to help him out. The play caller, whoever's calling the plays, you have to understand his strengths

his weaknesses you got to know what your receivers are good at what they can and what they can't do make it easy for him if you gotta

if you gotta if you gotta dumb down the playbook dumb it down and once he gets his confidence back then you can open the playbook back up

Ocho he missing easy throws though Ocho yeah I know I mean I know he throwing swings in the dirt that seven route and the end zone, Ocho, you won't get an easier throw than that, Ocho.

I ain't going to lie. I ain't played quarterback in 40 years. I could have completed that one. Yeah. Right now. Yeah. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate.

I'm going to tell you one thing. Players get coaches fired, man. Yeah. Players get coaches fired. FSU Yeah. Players get coaches fired. FSU wasn't the only Florida team that struggled this weekend. The Gators opened the season at home against rival Miami. Miami, the Canes, and it wasn't pretty. They lost 41-17.

Billy Napier should probably focus on his team and not taking shots at the Florida fans. This is what he said, Ocho. We got to become a consistent. We got to become a more consistent team. And if we focused on those things and not necessarily what some guy in his basement

is saying, you know, rules Central Florida on social media, then we got a chance to get better. He talking about the fans? He said the fans, you know, criticized him. say the fans, you know,

criticize the hymns. They didn't, you know, the basement. Oh, Hey, Hey, Hey,

Hey, Hey, well, they, they, they, they only own one. If all losses aren't the same,

Mojo, if one thing you get beat, okay, Ocho, we lost 27, 23. We one thing, you get beat, okay, Ocho, we lost 27-23. We lost 31-24. Man, you get beat by 24? And it wasn't that close, Ocho.

Yeah. I mean, listen, the Hurricanes ain't no slouch now. The Hurricanes ain't no slouch. They bouncing back. That goddamn Cam Ward. Oh, he played unbelievable. He was sensational. But that boy Cam Ward, I'm telling you, that's the difference.

When you have a quarterback, you could damn near do anything. Yeah. He was out there slicing and dicing. Slicing and dicing. But at some point in time, Ocho, you gotta look. you gotta accept responsibility. He said, I mean,

as a coach, I gotta do a better job of coaching them up. I gotta do a better job of putting them in position and making sure we understand what we need to do in order for us to win.

You can't blame the fans. You can't blame the players. Now, if you wanna get, when you wanna get into a situation, Ocho, you go into a meeting room and you and I both know we played at a lot of different levels what the coach might say publicly and what he say probably is two different things and we understand that that effort is not good enough that effort was not good enough on either side of the ball i expect us to play better

a lot of the assignments that we missed we had gone over and over and over. One of the reasons why I couldn't coach. Hell, we done practiced something all week. We send the first 15. And guess what happened though? Show the first 15 somebody F it up. Now we done practiced this. You knew it. Saturday night, we go over it again. And guess what? We talk about it before we go

out there. First 15, hey, this is what we got. Blah, blah, blah. And then somebody mess it up. And so I get it if you want to critique your players in the meeting now right if they keep effing it up there there's something going either there's a disconnect with the way you're teaching it or the way they're receiving it now if you're teaching it correctly now you need to get players that can receive it better but if you're not you need to get a coach or coaches that can communicate what some people are. You know, me, I was a visual learner.

You just couldn't tell me what to do. I needed to see it, Ocho. Now, once I saw it, I got it. And then I understand what you were trying to tell me and what I needed to do. But I needed to see it. Everybody doesn't learn the same. And so we got to find out a way coaches we need to find out a way to get the information that we're trying to disseminate

we need to get the players to understand it so what what is being lost in communication what is being lost in translation well what happens if the the team you're playing regards to how well you coach him up let's say brother Napier coached up the Florida defense. He coached up the Florida offense. They know what to do. They've been in meetings all week. You study film and you watch film on the Miami Hurricanes on what they were going to do,

their tendencies offensively and their tendencies defensively. But what happens if they're just better than you? What happens if their players are just better than us? Which is why the score at the end of the game looked the way it looked. What happens if they were just better? They were able to execute their offense better. That happens, Ocho.

Sometimes, and that's why it's easy for you to accept. The guy's just better. He's just better. They're bigger, faster, stronger. Even they're being coached better even if i coach at my best because they have superior athletes hell right i could have rolled secretariat and wasn't nobody gonna beat him it wasn't it wasn't run and no disrespect to ron tur. But that horse, when you win by 31 lengths, it ain't the jockey.

Right. It's the horse. Yeah. It's that chestnut coat. Mm-hmm. So sometimes it's just the team that's just better. Their players are better than yours. Their coaches are better than yours.

A lot of times that's how Alabama won. Alabama won because they had better players, better than yours. Their coaches are better than yours. A lot of times, that's why Alabama won. Alabama won because they had better players, better coaches. Yeah. Miami, the Canes, when they were winning, they had better players and better coaches. Yeah. Okay. It happens, Ocho.

And you know what's funny? Sometimes, if your players are good enough, your players can overcome bad coaching. Yeah. Because they're that much better. But then when you have subpar but you better have superior players that huh you better have superior players to overcome bad oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah in a situation like that what we saw at the olympics because when they got down it is like you heard katie and a lot of guys say, well, we start running plays. We just know what we need to do.

Get the ball ahead and make the right play. Well, we got superior athletes against the teams we were playing against. You can get away with that. But what happens when you don't? So you have inferior athletes and you have inferior coaching. You probably get what you got. You get exposed. and a lot of times oh joe you know what a lot of times when you see these teams these d1 teams and they play the fcs

teams and they play the hbcus and you see the score bit 77 to 3 and 77 7 that's what that is that's what that is no matter how no matter how down georgia not beating Alabama 77-7. Right. Ohio State is not beating Michigan 80-10. Right. But when you get that level of an imbalance with talent and coaching, you're going to get scores like that. Mm-hmm.

Damn. Florida got Miami. Okay. They get a reprieve. They got Sanford. Then they got Texas A&M, Mississippi State, UCF, at Tennessee, Kentucky at home, Georgia. They got Georgia.

It used to be the world's largest cocktail party. I don't know what they call it now. They call it the office party. They might not even call it anything now. And they're at Texas, LSU at home, Ole Miss at home, Florida State on the road. Boy, it's going to get ugly. Yeah. All them games are going to get ugly except it was one.

It was one team. The Bulldogs. Wait, hold on. Stanford or Stanford? Stanford. Okay. The Bulldogs. Yeah, that would be a game to get your confidence up that'd be a game to get

the team morale going hell Stanford coming in and fuck around and shock the world now like Appalachian State did Michigan that one time that year you never know you talking about Al State?

Yeah. Brian Kelly also called out his players last night. He said, his very first word, this is the first time since I've been here that I'm angry at my team. And then he went on to say, it's unacceptable for us not to have found a way to win this football game.

It's ridiculous. It's crazy. Later, when he talked about USC's Miller Moss, he also said, he outplayed our quarterback. Tigers quarterback Garrett Nussmeier, he was 29 of 38, 304 yards. This is Kelly's third consecutive season opening loss. Now, remember when they got thumped last year by Florida State? Yes, sir. He was upset at his team because he said, we're not the team that we thought he was. Now look,

I'm not going to sit here and say, I'm not the biggest Brian Kelly fan. Sometimes I go back and forth, but I think he might be on the tab of being overrated. I don't like how he handled the situation. He left Cincinnati right before the bowl game to go to Notre Dame. He did Cincinnati right before the bowl game to go to Notre Dame. He did the same thing to Notre Dame to go to LSU.

So he's not one of my favorites. Yes, sir. And sometimes, you know, well, you know, he turned the program around. Well, why the hell do you think they paid him all that money? That's what he's supposed to do. Do, right. I mean, Ocho, man, if I pay you $10,000 to fix my car, man, Ocho got it running.

He was supposed to. I paid his ass an arm and a leg. Yeah, most definitely. But again, I think if I'm not mistaken, he says he's upset at his players. If I'm not mistaken, he also took accountability. No, no. No, no, no, Ocho.

You lead with that. You don't say after you called out your players and then say, I got to do a better job of coaching. then say, I got to do a better job of coaching. You say, I got to do a better job of coaching and you lead the other part out until you get behind closed doors. Okay, I see what you mean. I see what you mean. You can't lead. Oh, I got to do a better

You done reamed the team. You done said it was them. Hold on. If they keep doing the same thing you talked about, now what is it? There's a disconnect here. Right. So the wires are getting crossed

because why aren't they understanding what you're saying? Or are you saying it in a form in which they can understand? That's your job as a coach. When you see them on the sidelines and they feel like they've gotten the game won, what are you doing? It's easy. Yeah, you right.

Hey, see, the one thing about LSU, the one thing about LSU and Brian Kelly is they not in the same situation like the Floridas. They not in the same situation like the Florida States. See, they got them dogs over there. Yes. So they gonna hit the switch. They got them dogs at quarterback. They got them dogs at receiver. They got them dogs over there. Yes. So they're going to hit the switch. They got them dogs at quarterback.

They got them dogs at receiver. They got them dogs at the deep, all the skill positions. And you know with the interior, offensively and defensively, the meat and potatoes of that goddamn team, oh, they got them. So he don't really have much to worry about. They're going to flip the switch. I don't know if you noticed, but Georgia's in the SEC. So is Alabama Alabama so is Texas

so is Oklahoma so is Ole Miss oh he got something to worry about oh yeah oh you got something to worry about but the thing all the teams you name let's exclude that

let's exclude Georgia yeah Georgia's on some on some other shit but LSU is going to be able to compete. Going to be able to compete with everybody you just named. Yeah. Everybody you just named.

But at some point in time, you keep blaming your players. They're going to like, no coach, you. Yeah. Yeah. And one thing about it, they're not going to fold on you. You know, in the NFL, you do some shit like that, well, your players will fold on you, huh? Oh, man, they'll talk to you.

They will fold on you now. That's what I say. What's the biggest difference? Okay, you're dealing with a grown-ass man. He got a mortgage. He got a wife. A lot of them got wives, got kids. You think you can talk to him like you can an 18- or 19-year-old

because the 18- or 19- old? Because the 18 or 19 year old is trying to get where that grown ass man is already at. And a lot of these grown ass men make more than the coaches. They will fight and you know what out of a coach. Oh, you can't. I ain't

telling you what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know. I'm telling you what I know. Yes, I've seen players swing on you what I know. Like that coach. Yes, I've seen players swing on coaches for being disrespectful. And y'all talk about soft. That's easy for you to say. But you got to be careful how you talk to a man. That is a grown man.

And he ain't finna let you talk to him in that kind of way. All that mofo, that SOB. Hey, the way Coach Bryant and back in the 70s and 80s and the way those Lombardis and Coach Landry, Coach Landry never cursed. He was very biblical. But you can't talk to... Okay. Okay. I was gonna say it like

that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Throw a chair. Hey, who you think you're talking to boy they'll slide them chairs back quick on your ass very very

punch you dead in your face on the sideline see they get the little shoving mask but before they had all them cameras they'll punch a coach dead in his face for being different it go down now. Yeah.

It go down. So that's the biggest difference. You got to understand, that's why Coach Saban, it was hard for Coach Saban. Now, he didn't have a quarterback. Oh, in the NFL? Yeah. I heard some stories about him with the Dolphins. It was funny.

Yes. There was some funny stories. Yes. Really funny stories. You can't talk to a grown man like you can a kid because they're going to listen because they feel you can get

them to where they need to be. When that grown man is already there and you think you can say whatever you want like you could. Okay. Hey, I think it was Crowder when Nick Saban was with the Dolphins. They went to practice, right?

Yeah. If I might have had a story correct, I might be a little off a little bit. And Junior Seau, I think Junior Seau was there at the time. Yeah. And goddamn Junior Seau came out to practice with sneakers on. Like, real practice with sneakers on. And Nick Saban must have told Seau,

you know, man, you need to go in there and put your cleats on or something like that. Yeah, he and Junior buffed his head. Ronnie Brown was on that team also. Yeah, Junior was like, okay, buddy. Okay, buddy. Man, ain't do shit, man. Practicing his goddamn sneakers.

I think Crowder told it. It was something like that man i'm talking about i was in tears laughing when nick saban thought he won't go come in there and talk to them boys any kind of way no sir it's it's it's look players for the most part want to be coached but there's a fine line between hard coaching and being disrespectful. That's why you got to know your players. That's why when we was on tour

and we talked to Raheem Morris and we talked to D'Amico Ryans, I said, how do you differentiate between who you can coach hard and who you have to pacify? I call it pacifying. You got to pat them on the back to be able to get what you want to get out of them. Especially now, today's game, you got players making 20 25 30 million 45 million then you're

gonna talk to them any kind of way and they're making that kind of money man all right look at see yeah all right i don't see players fight i don't see coaches fight. I don't see coaches fight. Coaches fight players. Players fight coaches. Players fight players. It's a different mentality in that locker room. That's why I believe mentally what you have to do. Because I don't care who it is.

It might be a wide receiver. It might be a D lineman. They ain't going to let you disrespect them. They're just not. They're just not. And sometimes you got to take a l but you're gonna gain a level of respect yeah see i'm a like my grandma said boy i can't stop you from doing it but i break you the habit i can't stop you but i bet you i break you the habit i bet you ain't gonna want to know no i'm good nah man you got just just like i said guys want to be coached ocho but sometimes coaches think

because you're in an authoritative position or i can talk to him any kind of way no you can't and i understand you're the coach you can get me fired you can get me traded or everything but i tell you what if you disrespectful i'll get traded i'll get fired, but I tear your ass up on the way out the door. I bet you that. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I like coaching. And I told Brian, I told Brian Billings, he's like, I said, Coach, coach me hard. And if you want to send a message, a lot of times Mike would send messages through me. He would get on me. He knew I could take it. I didn't mind it. Just don't through me. He would get on me. He knew I could take it. I didn't mind it.

Just don't curse me. He cursed me one time. I had a conversation with him. He's like, I'm sorry, 84. I said, hey. Never again. Never again. We had a great relationship.

I think sometimes, Ocho, what happens is that a coach has a perception. When Mike was first there, Mike was the quarterbackbacks coach because he went to the raiders and you know he had fallen out he ended up coming back he's the quarterback coach so when he gets there i'm mainly a special teams player right he leave and come back now i'm the best tight end to leave that's not how he remembered me right so we kind of butted heads but what he failed to realize what motivated me wasn't money yeah i'm a praise guy just tell him i did a good job and that's all i need to hear from you right i don't need you to tell me oh hey you know hey you can be this you can make a lot of money you know you can do i don't need that just tell Just tell him I did a good job. 84, we can win with that. I appreciate you getting

that's all I need. And so once I left and went to Baltimore and when I came back, he's like, you know, you want to bring us to Mike? I don't need to see. Look, like I was in Denver. I know what the facilities are like. I know what you're like. I had to have a conversation

with Mr. Bowling. Mr. Bowling had to say, look, I don't really put my foot down, but hey, are you coming back? I said, Mike, you know me. You know what I'm about. Yes, I'm about business. I want to win. I prepare myself to win. I try to do a great job of getting other guys to get on board, to buy in what you say in what you're selling. I don't need to see the facility. All I need to know, do you want me to come back? Because if Mr. Bowling want me to come back and you don't, I'm not coming. Right. I'm not. 84, we should have never let you go. Okay, let's do this. I had more money other places, but I thought it was only right that I go back and finish my career in Denver where it all started.

The right way, yeah. I would have never been happy even if I took more money from places, but I thought it was only right that I go back and finish my career in Denver where it all started. The right way, yeah. I would have never been happy, even if I took more money from Seattle, had the opportunity to go to the Raiders. It wouldn't have been right. Right. Because in my heart, that's not where I wanted to go. I wanted to go finish my career in Denver. But I just needed to hear him say it. Right.

Once he said it, I was cool. I was like, okay. Yeah. Let's do this. And plus, I didn't want to put my kids, my kids were still young. I mean, having to get my kids to fly and travel way across Seattle.

From Atlanta to Seattle? By themselves? Oh, no. And then even my mom, because at that point in time, my mom had retired. So my mom would fly there. My mom would fly from Chicago, because you know, this was after 9-11, that stopped. Well, that stopped.

But she was still, because their mom would walk them through the airport, you know, send them down unaccompanied minor. But after that point, I would fly my mom there. They would walk them to the gate. Then my mom would meet them at the gate. And then they would come to Denver. Or my sister would do something like that. But, yeah. Yeah.

You got to just be careful. Hey, we were, we was told we, we totally different too. Like when I think about it, the coaching style that you like and you accept, like I was complete, I was completely different. I like, I like that hard coaching and where I'm based on where I'm from and where I'm raised, I'm kind of used to it with the cursing and, you know, that get me going. When I had you. Hugh Jackson.

Well, listen, when I had you, let me take my glasses off so you understand how serious I am because, you know, I'd be playing around all the time. When I had Hugh Jackson in Cincinnati and I wasn't playing up the par and he get the mother he get the cursing yeah understanding that's I know I can get Chad going with a motherfucker what the fuck you doing god damn it come on now let's go man shoot boy you know that shit just got just got me I don't know I don't know how to explain it it just got me got me going it got me motivated because i have lapses sometimes sometimes i play down to my competition and all it took was for you to throw to say something to me in an encouraging way but just add a little curse word to it you know you know when you're cooking you know you cook your chicken and you add your seasoning just just add a little see i i see i see curse words as sentence enhancers and it just get me going it's

weird it's weird so i love and enjoy that type of coaching because it made me want to not only prove myself but to make sure i don't embarrass you based on all the coaching and goddamn film study and meetings we didn done did all goddamn week let me go out here and make sure i do my goddamn job for me ocho i never played down because i knew where i was playing because mary porter was in air condition all of a sudden yes come on and i got kids yes sir and so that was my You, because I looked at everybody that I faced. Well, you're trying to get my grandma out of this house. You're trying to get my kids out of these private schools. You're trying to take food off the table. You're trying to get Shannon to go back to Glenville with no running water and no end.

Oh, no, bro. Yeah. You can see you. And you thought completely different. That's the only thing completely different. Yeah, that's the that was that was my motivation from the time I can remember me and my brother talking about it. When we were sitting on those pine trees, young pine trees are called saplings. And we built many of the mofos over. And my grandma said, boy, y'all need to stop bidding them saplings. Right. That's all we talked about.'s all i thought about that was my motivation and so every time i looked at somebody oh you trying to get granny up out that house huh okay yeah you're trying to get my kids up out so now you're trying to feed your kids well my kids now if somebody kids not gonna eat mine gonna eat i don't know what you gonna do about yours

i'm sorry i'm sorry but somebody kids not to eat. It is not going to be mine. Mine going to eat. Yeah. I like that. I like that. I like that. Mm-mm. Hey, matter of fact, it's so funny.

I think about the different coaching styles based on where you're from. Everybody's different. Yeah. Anybody in the chat, I know somebody in the chat that's of age. Y'all remember, I know y'all saw the year of the bull. You never saw the documentary, the year of the bull. I didn't. Miami Northwestern. We're with Teddy Bridgewater's coaching now. I didn't see it, but I know that's where he's coaching. Okay.

Oh man. Listen, man, the year of the bull is a coaching style that we all grew up. We all grew up with. And obviously the coach, he caught flack for, you know, for the cursing and the hitting, the hitting the players and all that man like that type of coaching and that style of coaching it probably wouldn't work today it won't work in today's game you get fired right away oh joe you know they grab your face bath they grab you yeah yeah yeah hitting you upside the head like dog kicking your ass. Yeah, for sure. Man, dog. It's just different now.

It's just different. Like that type of coaching and just, oh, man. I love that shit. I love it. I love it. The Dolphins have not won a playoff game since acquiring Tyreek Hill in 2022 trade with the Chiefs. But Tyreek said today he thinks this team is better positioned for success than the ones the Dolphins put on the field the past two years.

This is the best team we've had since I've been here. Great time to be alive. We're all excited. We've got a lot of weapons, a lot of playmakers on this team. Everyone is on the very edge of their seats

waiting for this moment. Ochoa, do you believe they're better positioned? Goddamn right. Goddamn right. this moment. Ocho, do you believe their better position... Goddamn right. Goddamn right. The opposite in a better position to not only win a playoff game, but get to the second round.

Why are they in a better position? For one, one, Tua. I'm going to tell you why. Let me stay with me now. Tua, we're going to get a different side of Tua Because for one He's gotten paid

For two You know what you get When you have a happy quarterback That's satisfied You know what I have a franchise That believes in me How do I know the franchise

Believes in me Because I got Two hundred Something million Five year Whatever the numbers may be I don't know them correctly But you understand what I'm saying I do They believe in me so i think you're going to get the best version of tua

obviously he was able to stay healthy last year he's going to stay healthy this year he has what one two three if this is third year in mike mcdaniel's offense or fourth what year is this a two or third third third year in mike mcdaniel offense. He's familiar with everything. His supporting cast. Running game. Tyreek Hill. OBJ, who probably won't come back until maybe week four or week six. You got Waddle.

Offensively, they're a juggernaut. They're going to be hell to deal with. They had Mostert. They had A-Chain. Oh, Mostert and A-Chain, yeah. They had them. They had Tyreek. They had Waddle. But what A-Chain. Oh, Mostert and A-Chain, yeah. They had them. They had Tyreek. They had Waddle.

But what about defense? Chubb towards ACL. He's coming back off of that. Phillip towards the key. He's coming back off that. They got rid of Xavier Howard. They got the linebacker. Yeah.

Listen, there has to be an identity. On every team, there's an identity. It's either the defensive side of the ball or it's the offensive side of the ball or it's the offensive side of the ball it just so happened as opposed to the 2000s when the dolphins identity was their defense sam madison zach thomas patrick certaine it's different now now their identity yeah right yeah brock murray now their identity is on the offensive side of the ball okay so now it comes down to playing good defense.

If you don't mind me asking, what you going to do when the weather get bad? I know. You know what? That's always been an issue. No, no, no, no. You didn't vote for it. Wait. So what you going to do?

That's always been an issue for the Dolphins, even since Dan Marino. Yeah. Even since Dan Marino. How do we play better in cold weather? But hold on. Let's think about this. There was a time there was a game where they should have beat Buffalo where they could have had home field advantage and they

wouldn't have to take their ass to goddamn Kansas City, if I'm not mistaken. Am I right or am I wrong? Yeah. That's a game you have to win. They started out fast. Yeah. Listen, I believe them. And I'm not being biased because I'm from Miami I'm just I'm very understanding on what the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel had to work with

offensively it's scary yes especially with two is healthy it's scary now defense that's something they got to do hey I realize that's a part realize that's a part of the team, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hey. What? They got brother Holland. They got brother Ramsey. Yeah. They're going to be

all right. Who's going to be on the other side? I don't know. Who is the other DB on the other side of ramsey i'm i'm not sure i'm not sure i'm expecting you to know that i'm expecting you to give me the so do the dolphins make the playoffs over the jets and the bills hell yeah come on now you know that the dolphins gonna win the afc east and that's no disrespect to aaron rogers that's no disrespect to garrett wilson that's no disrespect to the Wilson. That's no disrespect to Bryce Hall.

No disrespect. But come on now. Yeah. What about the, what about the disrespect to the Buffalo Bills? The who? Buffalo Bills. I like Josh Allen. I like,

until he shows me he can stop turning the ball over. They, they ain't, come on now. Come on now. Come on now. I like Josh. I like the Bills, period. Hell, I like Keon Coleman.

Yeah. I like Keon Coleman. Who? Can he come in and do it? Oh, Kendall Fuller. Can he come in and do it? Stephon Diggs did for Josh Allen as a rookie. A reliable target all the time.

I understand what happened in the playoff game on the drop deep ball. I know. It happens. The game is about moments. And in that moment, he dropped the ball.

But can he come in and be a consistent target, a reliable target for Josh Allen? Yeah. That's an unanswered question, especially when it comes to their receiving core.

Is there somebody that he can rely on every time? Now, I think the onus is on Josh Allen. Now, more pressure is on Josh Allen because you don't have that boy to go to every time. I mean, Keon Coleman is that dude. I'm not sure if he's. It's different as a rookie. It's different.

Can he come in and have that type of impact that Justin Jefferson had? Can he come in and have that type of impact that Justin Jefferson had? Can he come in and have that type of impact that Jamar Chase had? We don't know yet. Right. We're going to find out, though. Kendall Fuller. I think he was with the—wasn't he with the Commanders? Wait.

Kendall Fuller from— The Commanders. The Commanders? Yeah, I think— And he played with the Texans, too? I think he's on the other side of J-Ram now. Okay. Okay.

Got a nice little veteran presence. Lamar Jackson was asked about his relationship with other quarterbacks in the league, including Mahomes. And this was his answer. Take a listen to the sound. Yeah. I don't have a relationship with him. I don't think I have a relationship with any quarterback in the league.

I don't take anything from him. I just take my game. But he's a great quarterback. You see that? He's a great quarterback. He had the accolades to prove it. But, man, he's just – he made things happen on the field that make his team successful.

You see that? Or, Joe, you like that Lamar doesn't have a relationship with any other quarterback? Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. I mean, the relationship is when you're on the field. It ain't like they don't be hanging out and Lamar has a different type of lifestyle

than other quarterbacks. It's just, we ain't going out, hanging out, drinking beers, and they do their own thing. They do their own thing. And I mean, he's right. The relationship they do have, when I see you, it's respect for what you do on the field and for your team. Outside of that, outside of the game of football,

you know, them boys don't hang out, man, unless you're at events. You see each other at the ESPYs, maybe. You see each other at Pro Bowl. And that's the extent of the relationship. No, I don't. I think there are two different places. Patrick Mahomes is married, about to welcome a third child.

Lamar is single, if I'm not mistaken. I don't think he has any kids. A lot of times quarterbacks move like quarterbacks when they're married. Tom Brady and Peyton were pretty cool, but both were married, had kids. Dan Marino and John, they were cool. but both were married yeah had kids uh dan marino and and and and john they were cool yeah they both were married and had kids and so it's not it's not

abnormal that lamar is in this place and my home is in that place and they're not you know i don't know like i said the quarterbacks now they're young so i don't know who's married and who's singing who's got kids and stuff like that but i don't think i don't think i think lamar is like he's living his life he's doing what he's doing and i don't have a problem with that it's yeah they're complete you got to understand lamar and patrick are two totally different sides of the spectrums two totally different sides of the spectrum yeah And two different lifestyles all together outside of the game of football. So it's it wouldn't even

look right hanging together. They have nothing in common outside of playing the quarterback position. And they're black. Can you imagine Pat Mahomes hanging out with Kodak? No, hell no. It's just, man, I can't see Pat Mahomes and Papino

chilling. It's just man i can't see pat mahomes and poppin old chilling it's just it's just nah oh lamar lamar uh it's been reported that lamar has a daughter i didn't i didn't know like i said i don't like for me ocho i i address guys what they do on the field uh you know sometimes we might sneak a little joke in there about tyreek uh about about the situation that he had going on or like a stretch where it seemed like every other day he was welcoming a new child. But for the most, I don't, I don't got nothing to do with me. I don't care about that. I'm talking about what you do on the field. Tyreek trying to beat me so bad. He got you. He tried to beat Nick Cannon.

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