Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Georgia takes down Texas, Buffaloes win big, Alabama upset

Episode Date: October 20, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson breakdown Kirby Smart, Carson Beck and the #5 Georgia Bulldogs handing Quinn Ewers, Arch Manning and the #1 Texas Longhorns their first loss of the seas...on in a Saturday Night SEC showdown. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders’ Colorado Buffaloes one game away from being bowl eligible after a dominant win against Arizona and discuss Coach Prime calling out former President Barack Obama for his pro-Arizona football comments, Tennessee’s huge upset win over Alabama and much more!03:18 - Show Starts03:30 - Intro05:20 - Georgia beats Texas34:26 - Colorado beats Arizona40:10 - Tenn beats Bama45:10 - Miami beats Louisville50:24 - Mizzou beat Auburn55:40 - ASU coach kicking trials(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:39 Georgia Bulldogs, the number five Georgia Bulldogs going to Austin. Take down the number one Texas Longhorns. They double them up, 30-15. The Bulldogs will get their road victory, handing Texas its first loss this season. The Bulldogs enter the game, the betting underdogs, the first time since 2021. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And that was the season opener, a span of 50 games. They jumped out to a 23-0 halftime lead. And guess what? They really, really never was challenged. The top five showdown did not. It wasn't what we thought it would be, Ocho. No, not even close. Quinn Ewers was benched temporarily.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Arch Manning came in for a couple of series. And then when it came out of the half, they went back to Ewers was benched temporarily. Arch Manning came in for a couple of series, and then when they came out of the half, they went back to Ewers. They got 15. I think they got it, what, they got it 23-15, but Texas had a hard time moving the ball up and down the field. An overturned defensive passing appearance called by the officials after the Longhorn fans threw debris onto the field late in the third quarter, something that you nor I, I don't think I've ever seen before.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Coach, when you watch this game, what did you like about what you saw from the Bulldogs? Listen, pure domination, huh? Pure domination, especially that first half. The game is one up front, and Georgia proved that tonight. The first half, goddamn Texas was 0 for 7 on third down. They couldn't even get a third down. Listen, Jalen Walker,
Starting point is 00:07:09 that's his name, right? Am I saying it right? Is it Jalen or Javon? Thank you. What is he, defensive lineman, defense? Hey, he was on. Oh, yeah, J.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Oh, J. Walker, yeah. Yeah, hey, boy, you the real deal. I know you're going to see this, Jalen Walker, boy, you the real deal. I will see you on Sundays. Other than that, man, the supporting cast for that Georgia defense,
Starting point is 00:07:28 man, it was all over the place. Obviously, they played the quarterback carousel, trying to get a spark on offense. Texas did, putting Arch Manning in. But he was overwhelmed a little bit. He was overwhelmed. I know he looked good when yours was out earlier in the season, you know, a few games.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But they weren't playing that guy. They weren't playing Georgia. No, they weren't the level of talent that Georgia has completely different. It's a different ball game. Arch came in there, try to give him a little spark. It didn't work.
Starting point is 00:07:53 They went back to yours. They started to get the offense going a little bit. They started to get it going a little bit, but not enough, not enough. And again, that wasn't a PI too. On that call you talked about.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It should have never been called. But don't you know, I've never seen officials go back and say it wasn't pass interference. The only reason they were able to
Starting point is 00:08:13 deliberate on whether it was pass interference or not is because all the fans threw all the damn trash. Exactly. So if they didn't throw all that stuff on the field, the call would have stood, the pass interference would have stood. I believe so too.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But the fact that you gave him too much time to deliberate, you know, boom. I mean, it just wasn't, the DB had just as much right to the ball as a receiver and you can't make contact. You don't got, you don't run into the man. That's what I'm saying. That was, that could have been offensive because he pushed off and the ball, and the ball was was outside right yeah so the db was already outside and so
Starting point is 00:08:49 he picked it um but i agree with you i had never seen anything like that not look not a call like that it's almost like uh uh headquarters like that wasn't pi right right right right and all of a sudden because i'm like the rest the rest have uh oh yeah access to the rest of the year yeah they got because you know when they call when they call targeting right you go to central control just like the nfl when you have when you have a challenge you gotta go to central control so yeah they absolutely absolutely um but still even though i believe it was the wrong call in the beginning, I have never seen them pick a flag up like that. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So it was the right call, but I don't know under the right circumstances to do that. Because everybody's going like, man, how did, how, how is that possible? And Kirby was like, hold on, wait a minute. You,
Starting point is 00:09:50 you, you picked the flag up. You said it wasn't PI. Kirby wanted an explanation. Kirby. I think everybody wanted an explanation. Uh, but I don't believe the original call was right.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I don't believe it was a defensive pass interference or, uh, uh, contact or whatever the terminology or phrase you want to use. I don't believe it was a defensive pass interference or contact or whatever terminology or phrase you want to use. I don't believe Georgia, I don't believe the Texas cornerback,
Starting point is 00:10:12 I don't believe he hindered it. I thought the offensive tried to disengage by shoving it. Right. But the ball was so poorly thrown, it was outside and it hit the DB
Starting point is 00:10:21 right in the chest. So he had no choice but to catch it. I'm surprised and with the ease in which georgia did this because texas was only giving up six points they go on the road they beat uh they beat michigan now after michigan got beat by indiana indiana is a little better than we thought they go on the road and their rival game they go to a neutral site and they beat the brakes off of Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Oklahoma just got trounced by South Carolina. I think that's their biggest loss at home since 2014 or something like that. So now Oklahoma, so now it's got me, and I think the world will start, but it's got me reevaluating what I should think about Texas, Ojo. It really does. Yeah, they played some inferior competition, and they hung points on the board on them. But when I look at their big wins, supposedly, allegedly,
Starting point is 00:11:11 they beat Michigan, and they beat Oklahoma. Do we think Michigan and Oklahoma are really good this year? I don't think so. Absolutely not. Because most of the players that made them what they were last year and they were so good, everybody gone. Yep. Everybody is gone.
Starting point is 00:11:27 So now teams are being exposed as opposed to the next man up and who's up. And they're living off of last year's success, expecting their own team to be just as good. So Texas was exposed tonight. But again, I think the exposure came strictly from the interior. And the Texas O-line ain't shabby. No, no, and the texas o-line ain't shabby no no no no no neither is their defensive line right but it just goes to show you the level of talent that georgia has your quarterback turned the ball over three times and you won by double
Starting point is 00:11:59 digits hold on remember ocho he had that many turnovers against Alabama and they took the lead. When you can turn the ball over, like Georgia turned it over, and still win the ball game? The problem is, it's not only you're turning the ball over, once you get the ball back, Texas ain't doing nothing with the goddamn ball. You ain't doing nothing with the ball
Starting point is 00:12:19 because the defense was playing that well. And then Texas gave four turnovers. They had two formulas by yours. They had one by art. You, when you play a team like Georgia, yeah, you're going to have to be damn near perfect.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And the last thing you can, you can do is turn the ball over. Yeah. Even if you were at home, because when you play a team like Georgia, unless you're as equally as talented as they are, they're going to run away from you and there are not very
Starting point is 00:12:50 many teams in the country that's equally talented that can match up with them on both offense and defensive line and the skill positions there are not very many teams in the country now we're going to see, we'll see what Oregon if they play Oregon or they play Penn State or they play a Penn State
Starting point is 00:13:05 or they play some of the other top teams. But when you look at Georgia and the way they're built, Kirby has built this team like those old Alabama teams where he was the D coordinator on. Let me go get O-line. You build from front to back. You build from offensive line back. You build from defensive line back.
Starting point is 00:13:23 That's the way Coach Saban built those Alabama teams. That's the way Kirby Smart is building this Georgia team. And they've enjoyed a level of dominance since, what, 21 that we haven't seen in a while since those Alabama teams were doing it like that. But Georgia's really good. Look, I know they've lost to Alabama, but it's hard for me to believe that there's a better team than Georgia.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I know Oregon is the number two seed, ranked number two, and they went on the road and they thumped Purdue. And I know they beat last week, they beat Ohio State at home. But watching with my own eyes, I don't see a team better. Penn State? Nah.
Starting point is 00:14:03 At one point, what are the chances? I mean, at some point, I know they probably will, or I don't see a team better. Penn State? Nah. At one point, do you think, what are the chances? I mean, at some point, I know they probably will or I don't know. Will Oregon play Georgia at some point or it wouldn't be until there's some type of playoff implication? Yeah, playoff implication. I think the speed, the only thing with Georgia,
Starting point is 00:14:20 I think they will still dominate in the trenches as far as up front is concerned. Oh yeah, for sure. When I think about Oregon, I think about finesse and speed. I think they will still dominate in the trenches as far as up front is concerned. Oh yeah, for sure. When I think about Oregon, I think about finesse and speed. I think about finesse and speed. They got some hogs that they don't have no hogs like Georgia has, but I think the edge as far as in the game
Starting point is 00:14:35 is because Oregon is so goddamn fast. Yeah. They're so fast from sideline to sideline as far as skill position is probably equal. But I don't know. I think it'll be a very, very good game. It'll be a very good game.
Starting point is 00:14:50 But here's the thing. When you play Georgia, it's just like any other. You got to be physical. You have to. You ain't got no choice. You got to be physical because they're not going to let you get outside. And they're going to play bully football. That's the way they're built. They're built to play a physical brand of football we're not gonna get down that's
Starting point is 00:15:12 what they do they wear you down i i was like boy texas y'all playing with fire y'all getting all these turnovers and you're not doing anything with them i say now this momentum is gonna shift now what happens if you start to turn the ball over? Right. Because right now everything is going in your favor. You're creating turnovers. You're getting short field. And you're not doing anything with it. Now when this momentum flips.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Right. You start turning the ball over. Or Georgia, all of a sudden you don't turn it over. Even if you punt the ball away, they hold you and you punt the ball away. Right. What happens when they get momentum? And you see what happened. 23-0 at the half.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So the Georgia Bulldogs go on the road to Austin, take down the number one Longhorns, 30-15. Beck did not play well, three interceptions. Quinn Ewers did not play well. Ewers are going to have to find a way in big, meaningful games. There's one game, Alabama last year, I thought he played really, really well.
Starting point is 00:16:12 He played really, really well, Locho. But he has an injury history, and he hasn't played consistently in big games. In big games, yeah. It's going to be very interesting to see. For me, after watching these guys, you know, Cam Ward, I like Cam Ward, but it's hard to say that there's better quarterbacks that's going to be
Starting point is 00:16:36 in this 2025 draft that's better than Shador. No, absolutely not. I think Shador is the clear number one favorite as far as quarterbacks are concerned. I don't see anyone probably being picked before him as far as number one is concerned. I think the next player after him would probably be maybe a D tackle, maybe a defensive end, maybe a right guard. You know, some some of the big boys that have been playing very well this year. But Shador is a clear favorite. He's a clear favorite. And I still think. I don't know if the injuries will play any type of part.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I still think that Travis Hunter also has a chance to go. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe top three, maybe top five. I would like to say top three if we can figure out, you know, the injuries and what's going on with them, with those. But, Ocho, we got to factor in. That's why they don't let guys play all those snaps. Your body.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah, but he young. He young. Ocho, I don't care how young you are, Ocho, playing 130 snaps a game is not conducive. Now think about that. He played 130 snaps in college. You think he's. He played 130 snaps in college.
Starting point is 00:17:45 You think he's going to play 130 snaps in the NFL? Absolutely not. No. What's happening to him? Body breaking down? You can't play those snaps.
Starting point is 00:18:00 What is the injury? Do you know? He hurt his shoulder. Oh, okay. I don't think snap the body hold on wait what what injury what is the injury do you know he already showed him oh okay okay okay i don't i don't think hurting your shoulder is really not a type of injury that's that's re um a reflection of when you get time when you get tackled you fall on the ground when you tackle somebody you're doing that a hundred times a game now normally ocho when you play offense you might get hit 10 times a game if you catch the, Ocho, when you play offense, you might get hit 10 times a game if you catch the ball or you fall on the ground.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Imagine you playing 100 plus snaps. You're tackling and you're getting tackled. Those hits are magnified. Yeah. I think that's the biggest. Could somebody Yeah, there have been a lot of guys that probably could have played it. But the game is fed up.
Starting point is 00:18:45 It's a lot more conditioning now, and he has the condition. But you're asking someone to put that amount of snaps on his body week in and week out. That's the biggest difference is the physicality in the NFL. Especially at the next level. But there's one person I would love to see do it. There's one person I would love to see prove those, I'm not going to say doubters, those that feel he can do it.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I would love to see him do it. I'm sure whatever team he goes to, they're going to have some, like we've always said, I think you and Prime, well, Prime really won't give us an answer. I think you prefer him to play DB. I prefer him to be at the wide
Starting point is 00:19:25 receiver position simply from a financial standpoint long term with the type of money they can command when you're really, really good at what you do. I'm excited for him. He says he can do it. The fact that he believes he can, but once you got it here and believe you can do it, despite what we may think, you know, based on the physicality of the game at the next level and how close the competition is. But when you're part of the 1%, if there's somebody I think that may be able to pull it off, even if we feel he can't, I would love to see him do it
Starting point is 00:19:56 just to prove some people wrong. Well, it's not a point that he can't. Yes, he can do it. But at what point is it a diminishing return? Okay, I see what you mean. At what point does him, the receiver, does it suffer? At what point does the DB, does it suffer? Because you want to be great, but let's just say he's a great wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:20:17 but then it hurts the defensive side. Or he's great on the defensive side, and it hurts the offensive side. At some point in time, Ocho, it has to be a diminishing return. Some got to give, huh? Some got to give, Ocho. That means, Ocho, you think about
Starting point is 00:20:33 the most snaps I've ever played in a game, I think it was about 93. And I'm just playing, I'm just offense snaps. Right, right. Imagine, imagine playing 100 plus every game, games 17 games ocho that's 1700 plays but you know that's two seasons yeah it is but when you think about it on the level of
Starting point is 00:20:57 competition and of the elites that are at at the nfl level he won't be able to just take someone's position on both sides of the ball like that. That's why I think whichever... That's what we're trying to... You see, you and I are smart enough to say, okay, put him in packages. Packages, yeah, yeah, yeah. If he's going to play...
Starting point is 00:21:16 Okay, we got a couple of packages for you on the offensive side. Okay, we got some defensive packages. But everybody's talking about, oh, he's going to play both. He's going to start both with offense and defense. That's tough, boy. That's tough. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I would like people to be a little bit more realistic. I think for us that have played the game and those that are also playing the game and that are playing the game right now have a better understanding. You like the attitude and the feeling of I can do both, but with great understanding on how good everybody
Starting point is 00:21:45 really is, that's a tall task. That's a tall task. Some of the guys that he played against, Ocho, is not going to make it to the NFL. Every guy he plays against on Sunday is in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And that's when people say, oh, this college team could be's what, when people say, oh, this college team could be the pro team. Shit. I said, look, you do realize, Bama,
Starting point is 00:22:12 Florida State, LSU, LSU, that 2019 LSU team, put them against the worst, put them against the worst NFL team. They beat the hell,
Starting point is 00:22:21 man, the NFL team will beat the hell, them grown ass, them grown ass men. Hey, we talking about will beat the hell. Them grown-ass men. Hey, we talking about Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, Ed Woodland there.
Starting point is 00:22:31 They will get mollywhopped, man. They get mollywhopped. People don't understand that that's a grown man. Y'all having a good time. That was a historically great team. It was. But them grown men now. It's a different ballgame, boy.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Bad please. But look, he's a phenomenal talent. He's as good a talent as I've seen. Now, I don't know how you quantify him. Like I said, I didn't pay that close of attention to some of the guys because I was playing. So I didn't have the kind of time like we have now to just watch Travis Hunter on both sides of the ball.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I was in the league when champ Bailey was doing what he was doing. I was in the league when Charles Woodson was doing what he's doing. And I wasn't in the league with miles Jack, but I wasn't really paying attention. Like, and we didn't have a, a show like we have with nightcap where we're talking about a lot of different things on a night.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Basically you got once a week, we talk about something and then we move, we moving on. But in this situation to study it, like I said, I'm, I'm pretty close to Bo's age. I'm pretty close to times age.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Those are the two greatest athletes that I've seen with my own eyes. Yeah. Especially Bo. Shit. Man. Like I said, I mean, play offense and defense. I saw Ty do it. I saw Ty do it in the NFL. I saw him play offense and defense.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I saw him start. They had some packages for him. But it would have been interesting to see next time we have Mo, we're going to for him. But it's been interesting to see, you know, next time we have Mo, we're going to ask him, do you believe you could have played an entire season playing both sides of the football? I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:24:14 every snap, you know what I'm saying? Because we saw him do it. Playing every snap. He's probably going to say yeah. He might, but the one thing, he's going to be honest with you now. He's going to be honest. I mean, he, obviously, he might, but the one thing he's going to be honest with you now. Yeah. He goes, he goes, he's going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Uh, I mean, he obviously has supreme confidence in his ability and rightfully so. I mean, the hardest thing to do, most people say the hardest thing to do is to hit a baseball. It is. The man played in a football game and went and played in the world series
Starting point is 00:24:40 game. He's hit home runs. He's hit inside the park. Home is double, triple. He's picked off a pass. He's run a punt back. He's hit home runs. He's hit inside the park home. He's doubled, tripled. He's picked off a pass. He's run a punt back. He's run a kickoff back. He's caught a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:24:50 He's run a reverse. I mean, we ain't gonna finish doubting because we've seen it at the highest level. So we've seen this man on the baseball field, Ocho. At the majors. We've seen him in Super Bowls. We've seen him be an all-pro.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Like I said, he's been an all-pro with three different teams. Only two other men have ever done that, T.O. and Ted Hendricks. So that takes you to the level. If I'm not mistaken, I think Ty has more all-pro teams than Pro Bowl selections.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Let that sink in. That's crazy. Like I said, Ocho, more all pro cheese than than than provost lecture let that sink in and crazy I guess they're all true people don't people don't realize how good time was because you know I'm saying we've been so far removed from it now so you see yeah you know you see the
Starting point is 00:25:37 YouTube clips but something you only you have to be able to see through your own eyes yeah hey do you do you do you put, do you put Jordan in that same class? Hold on. I'm saying being a two-sport athlete, even though he tried
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Starting point is 00:28:37 I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you.
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Starting point is 00:29:26 and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas.
Starting point is 00:30:12 It created a North star for me of how I want to be in the world. You know, as a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. No, no, no, no. Jordan is a historically great basketball player
Starting point is 00:30:47 but you don't give him the credit for trying his hand at baseball no you could try I mean yeah he tried you know but he didn't get called up
Starting point is 00:31:04 to the majors. That's what the big boys are. Yeah. There are a lot of guys that are, that are lifetime. It's kind of like there's a, there's a levels to this. There's the NBA.
Starting point is 00:31:15 And then you can go to the G league. You can play overseas. Right. The NBA is the NBA. You know, guys play semi pro where I played semi pro. That ain't NFL. Right. NFL. That's what, if play semi-pro. Well, I played semi-pro. That ain't NFL. Right. NFL.
Starting point is 00:31:28 If you're talking about pro football, now there were two leagues when they had the USFL. And some of the guys, Reggie White, played in the USFL. There were a lot of guys that played that came over and had Sam Mills, rest his soul. He started in the USFL
Starting point is 00:31:43 to field miles. There were a lot of guys that played in there. But people that look at them, Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, guys. But when you can't, you got your cred. You know what I'm saying? You got your cred, Ocho, when you came to the NFL. Yeah. You get your cred when it says NBA, MLB. And congratulations to the Yankee. Soto, 3-1 homer. Top of the NFL. You get your cred when it says NBA, MLB. And congratulations to the Yankee.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Soto, 3-1 homer. Top of the 10. Two outs, two strikes. Yah, yah. He came in clutch, huh? Did he? I missed that one. Hey, all I know is he going to cost about 500 mil, too.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Hey, hold on. What's the series? What, 3-1? Oh, they're in the World Series. And so now they're waiting on the Dodgers. The Dodgers and the Mets. The Guardians. No, they beat the Guardians. The Yankees just put the Guardians out.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Who the... The Mets and the Dodgers. Okay, okay. Hold on. The Dodgers is up, like, what, 2-3-1-2, huh? They're up 3-1, yeah. No, 3-2. 3-2. Yeah. Hey, can you imagine that? A Dodgers and Yankees World Series? That's going to be a good game 7-0, boy. You got New York.
Starting point is 00:32:52 You got L.A. You can't get anything better than that. You can't get anything better than that. It's like the Lakers and the Celtics. Oh, yeah. Like old school. In the 80s, when you got Bird and Magic. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You know, I'm not much of a baseball fan. I don't watch baseball much, but I'm glad to see. I'm not sure if the Steinbrenner is still the owner or, you know. Yeah, his son. I'm glad to see that. Hank and Hal. You pay to play. I'm glad to see pouring that money into the team is finally paying off.
Starting point is 00:33:26 That's always the thing to do. The one thing you can never accuse the Yankees of. Oh, they ain't paying no money. They've always paid money. They went and got Dave Winfield. They went and got Reggie Jackson. They go get Randy Johnson. They will spend the money.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Yeah. Well, now it's paying off. It's paying off this year. Mr. Steinbrenner? Yeah. He's always been like that. If I'm not mistaken, he brought the Yankees from the CBS in 73 for like $7 million. That's it?
Starting point is 00:33:54 Boy, you know how much $7 million was back in the 70s? What you about to see it? I mean, when you think about it, you think $7 million in today's time? No, it's 1973. And I ain't mean no disrespect to those that are watching. I ain't mean to casually just say that's it like that.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I'm just, I apologize. No, but they've always spent money. They always have. They always will because they want to win. Yeah. They want to win. And ain't nobody don't, you know. And could they, like, stuff their pockets with money? Sure. Yeah. They want to win. And ain't nobody don't, you know. And could they, like,
Starting point is 00:34:26 stuff their pockets with money? Sure. Yeah. But he passed whatever trait that is that Mr. Steinbrenner had, he passed it down to his son. Because they'll spend money. Now, they just spent $40 million, $360 million for nine years
Starting point is 00:34:41 for Aaron Judge. Yeah. They spent $355 on the pitcher. They're about to spend $500 on Soto. Maybe six. Yeah, Juan, nice. Maybe six. Well, whoa, whoa, whoa. Six might be a little steep now.
Starting point is 00:35:00 If you got to think, what's the name? If Ohtani just got 10 years, $700 million, the fact that he got $700 million is the fact that he can do so much. He's stealing bases. He can go out there and strike. He can go out there and get you some strikeouts. And he a slugger? Well, he ain't struck out nobody this year.
Starting point is 00:35:14 He's a slugger. Miguel Soto going to get 550, 600 million. Juan Soto. Juan Soto. I keep saying Miguel. Juan Soto going to get 550,50,000, $600,000. Oh, Joe. You think he's going to stay with the Yankees
Starting point is 00:35:28 or he's going to go somewhere else? Who got the most money? Because if Scott, listen, the way baseball players are, they want to keep the market going, they're going to the highest bidder. Right, right. Now, the Yankees did something very unique with Judge. They offered Judge like eight years bidder. Right. Right. Now, the Yankees did something very unique with a judge.
Starting point is 00:35:46 They offered judge like eight years, 270. Right. He said, nah, I'm good. He played it out. He had that MVP season. Right. And they gave him something very few Yankees have ever had. They put that C on his jersey.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Captain. Yeah. Now, there have been a lot of captains, but when you captain of the Yankees, that's a whole different ballgame. Different. That's different. Ain't a whole lot of men that wore that C,
Starting point is 00:36:16 had that C on the pinstripe. Hey, did one of the greatest shortstops of all time? Jeter. Jeter was captain. He was the last captain. He was captain captain he was the last captain right okay okay okay yep I think Thurman Munson was a captain probably DiMaggio right
Starting point is 00:36:32 yeah but you you talking you talking about epic names when you talk about Yankees captains right right probably Gehrig probably Ruth that's dope that's live I don't think Jumajio was I know it wasn't
Starting point is 00:36:51 it couldn't have been Mantle not as much as he partied Nicky Mickey Mantle he's the party what he said if he knew he was going to live so long he took better care of himself Lou Gehrig Don Madden
Starting point is 00:37:11 Donnie Baseball Judge, not Judge, obviously and Jeter was Thurman Munson the captain? He died in a plane crash I remember him used to catch him Ron Guidry, okay okay he died in a plane crash. I remember him used to catch him. Ron Guidry, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Okay. Yeah. I don't know him. You're going way back now. I remember Willie Randolph, the second baseman. I remember Ron Guidry. Oh, no, no, no. I don't know. You're going too far back now all right don't you yeah colorado
Starting point is 00:37:47 is one game away from being eligible yeah your standards went 23 or 33 passing 250 yards two touchdowns or rushing touchdowns with two interceptions travis hunter started uh started after injuring his shoulder against color State. But with a 28-3 lead, he sat out the entire second half to rest that shoulder. The Buffaloes improved to 5-2 with a win today. The boys ain't been 5-2 since 2014,
Starting point is 00:38:16 man. I think 2014, something like that. They look good today, man. They look like a completely different team. They look like a completely different team. They look like a completely different team. They could have put up more points than they did, too. They could have put up more points than they did. And you say they're bowl eligible with one more win, right?
Starting point is 00:38:36 Yeah, got to get a six. They just beat Arizona. Who do they have next? Do you know? I don't. Who they got? Who's on the schedule? Do they play Arizona State this year?
Starting point is 00:38:51 Cincinnati. They got Cincinnati at home. Okay. That's a dub. What? Ag Texas Tech. Texas Tech got trounced today. Texas Tech, they not good this year, huh? Hmm. They throw the ball around. Yeah. Listen, they always been like that. So, hell,
Starting point is 00:39:11 the Buffs got a chance to go 7-2. Yeah. The score was 28-7. Colorado was up 28-7 at the half. And so Travis Hunter, Coach Prime, gave him the rest of the day off they're doing a great job they're attacking the quarterback if you look at it one three four five seven look like they had
Starting point is 00:39:33 like seven they had seven sacks seven tackle for losses defense is doing a great job they ran the football oh they ran the football 39 rusheses, 148 yards. Webster had another big day receiving the ball. Ate for a buck 27. 23, had 23 completions for 250 yards, two touchdowns. And they ran the ball. This is one of the times, Ocho,
Starting point is 00:39:57 when you look at it, they had more rushing attempts than passing attempts. Yeah, and you know what's funny? When you're running the ball efficient like that, and you're gashing teams like that, it balances out the playbook. You can do what you want to do in the pass game when you know you can run the ball.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Mm-hmm. It makes everything easier. Everything easier. Texas Tech ain't that bad. They're all 5-2. BYU sits atop the conference at 4-0 tied with the conference at 4-0, tied with Iowa State at 4-0. K-State is
Starting point is 00:40:29 3-1. They 6-1. Texas Tech is 3-1 in the conference. Cincinnati is 3-1 in the conference. Colorado is 3-1 in the conference. 7-0, 7-0, 6-1, 5-2, 5-2, 5-2. Kansas State has the advantage because they already beat Colorado.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah. This game, you know, hey, they can do some damage, win against Cincinnati. Hey. I like, but I like, it seems to me that they are, they get better. They just can't have that low because
Starting point is 00:41:01 remember what they did to UCF, Ocho, they went down there and they dominated. Most complete game. Even Coach Bryant came on and said, this was our most complete game. And then the next week, all of a sudden, they forgot how to stop the run and how to protect your door. So hopefully, they like, you know what? This is how we got to where we needed to be.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Let's continue this. But that defensive line, they were attacking today. They did an unbelievable job. Seven sacks, seven tackle for losses. Yeah, you can win with that. Yeah. You definitely can win with that, Ochoa. And one thing to take note, and no disrespect to them,
Starting point is 00:41:40 but also the Arizona offensive line really ain't what it should be. Yeah, true. It really ain't what it should be. Yeah, true. It really ain't what it should be. So that's why it looked like that. So if they can continue the same thing when they do play Cincinnati, if that's the next game, now we talking. Right. Well, Cincinnati, they won today, I think, to beat Arizona State,
Starting point is 00:42:00 and the coach was upset at the kicker. I'm holding open drive for anybody that want to kick. Listen, very few times do coaches just be honest and tell the media exactly how they truly feel. Most answers and most comments are always politically correct. And listen, it's kind of sad or bad in a way. You know, they'll talk about the coach for that. But, hey, that's how you feel.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Hey, huh? Yeah, we were talking about that later. Coach said, look here, if you can kick a football or kick ass, come on out here. Come on out here. Come on out here and try it on you. But Coach Friars, Colorado Buffaloes get to
Starting point is 00:42:42 five and two with a very impressive 34-7 win over Arizona. On Friday, former President Obama attended a campaign rally in Tucson, Arizona, said he saw buses for Colorado football team at the airport. President Obama said Colorado got a couple of good players. I also know you guys are beating them twice in a row. Don't bet against the Wildcats tomorrow. Buffalo wind prompted the reporters to ask Coach Prime about
Starting point is 00:43:09 former President Obama's comments. I love him. I admire him. I respect him tremendously, but I heard what he said. We have more than a few good players. Come on, Fred. Come on, Fred. That's a lot. Oh, boy. Tennessee, the Volunteers dropped the Alabama that's live oh boy Tennessee
Starting point is 00:43:26 the volunteers dropped the Alabama Crimson Tide to five and two it's the first time since 2007 Coach Saban's first year there
Starting point is 00:43:36 that they've lost two games before November October can't end soon enough for Kalen DeBoer the number seven
Starting point is 00:43:44 Alabama first loss to Vanderbilt, then a narrow win against South Carolina, and today a 24-17 loss to Tennessee could doom this Crimson Tide's hopes for playing the SEC championship game and reaching the college football playoff. The Tide managers, 64 yards rushing against Tennessee, talented defensive front. Jalen Merrill tossed a pair of interceptions including one of the final minutes that sealed
Starting point is 00:44:08 the volunteer win. Ocho, he needs to understand his team isn't good enough to overcome his mistakes. Mistakes, yeah. Not only that, hell, that goddamn Tennessee, forget the Tennessee, forget the offensive line that wouldn't allow
Starting point is 00:44:23 Alabama to rush. The goddamn secondary. That was more surprising to me how well the secondary played against Ryan Williams and the rest of those receivers that Alabama has. Man, they was on them boys like right on right shot there, man.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Man. Every week we watch Alabamaabama play there's always been a receiver with a highlight some 50 yard touchdown 70 yard touchdown you know short stuff taking short short routes intermediate routes taking them to the house oh there was none of that today bro there was none of that today and then on top of the turnovers and not really being able to move the ball like you like or put up points like we're used to seeing Alabama do, man,
Starting point is 00:45:10 kudos to that Tennessee defense. Matter of fact, kudos to that Tennessee secondary. They played well. They played real well. At some point, for a second, I thought Melrose punted the ball. The way it was coming out of their hands, the way it was looking.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I'm like, did you punt that or you threw it? Yeah. Hey, they was on him, huh? Ocho, but he's staring receivers down, bro. You can't do that. I promise you,
Starting point is 00:45:38 I promise you, if you stare a receiver down in the NFL, you're going to complete under 50% of your passes. Yeah, well, shit, it's going the other way. One or the other. But you know it's hard now.
Starting point is 00:45:50 You know it's hard when you're getting hit to be able to get the ball and you know your ass is supposed to be on the safety. True. And just to hold the safety there before you make your throw. Now, when you're shaking and you got happy feet, you want to see your target right away so you can complete the pass and that guy jumped off sides i don't know why how they didn't call that penalty ocho yeah yeah but that defensive ocho yeah he was past the tackle and melro hadn't even
Starting point is 00:46:20 got the ball oh yeah i don't know what they were looking at. I don't know either. He must have had a Tennessee's part of his parlay. Nah, I'm just kidding, man. Nah. But I do think that was, I think most people think that was a procedure, that he was offside in a situation like that. I was shocked
Starting point is 00:46:41 that they didn't blow it dead. I was surprised that they didn't blow it dead. I was surprised that they didn't blow it dead. But Merrill has to play better. If you go back and look at the games, two turnovers against Vanderbilt. Last week, similar situation against Carolina. They could have easily lost
Starting point is 00:46:58 that game. Again, another two turnovers today. He has to play a clean game, Ocho, because they're not good enough to overcome his mistakes. They're just not. And He has to play a clean game, Ocho, because they're not good enough to overcome his mistakes. They're just not. And he needs to understand that. But
Starting point is 00:47:13 I don't know. It's not looking good. Alabama lost two games. It's not November yet, but I kind of felt they were in trouble when they lost to Vanderbilt. Looking at their schedule, I'm like, they still got to go to Tennessee. They still got to go to LSU. They still
Starting point is 00:47:30 got the Iron Bowl with Auburn. They still got Ole Miss. Could they lose? Boy, Alabama lose four games in a season? I mean, it could happen. It absolutely could happen. It could happen. I don't know who's schedule worse.
Starting point is 00:47:45 As far as the gollies are concerned, the Cowboys, would they next five coming up? Or Alabama, would they next four coming up? Shoot, both is looking real grim. Yes. I don't even know what grim mean, but. Bleak, bad it sounds bad. Not good.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Oh, hell no. Yeah, but I'm surprised given that he started, you know, last year and how he picked it up and how he played well. He started the season off, kind of reverted back. Yeah. But this is not a good look, bro. The number six Miami Hurricanes keep winning close when beating Louisville 52-45.
Starting point is 00:48:30 The Hurricanes' third ACC win in a row by one possession. Cam Ward keeps putting up Heisman Trophy-worthy numbers. After losing three interceptions and wins against Virginia Tech and Cal, he stayed clean against the Cardinals, hitting 21 of 32 passes, 319 yards, four touchdowns while adding 29 yards on the ground. Ward continues to lead power forward with 27 combined scores. He's going to have
Starting point is 00:48:54 numbers, and they're going to have an impressive resume as far as wins, Ocho. 52, I think this is the fourth time this season that they've scored 50 points or more, which is a program record. I think Cam Ward the fourth time this season that they've scored 50 points or more, which is a program record. I think Cam Ward has like, what, six or seven consecutive 300-yard passing games,
Starting point is 00:49:13 which is also a program record. So he's doing what he needs to do in order for them to keep his name in that Heisman Trophy conversation. Now, Jenty, Ocho, it's just going to be hard. He rushes for 2,500, 2,600, 2,700 yards.
Starting point is 00:49:32 What did he have today? Oh, they was on a bye. I think they were on a bye. I mean, he's on a pace to... I mean, put it like this. Not saying he's going to continue, but he's ahead of the pace that Barry was on when he rushed for 26-28. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:49 He can probably get it. He can probably get it. I would love to see if he was in the SEC. No. Alabama. SEC. I would love to see if he was in the SEC. Would you still be able to put up those type of numbers in that type of conference?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Yeah, probably not. I still think he'd be really good. Yeah, he'd be really good. I just want to see what his numbers would look like. Well, they tried. I mean, there's some team programs that tried to lure him away, put him in the, you know, give him NIL money, but he stayed. He stayed anyway?
Starting point is 00:50:24 He stayed. Boy, you better than me, boy. Yeah. You better than me. All I need, give me, listen, give me, give me a charger. Give me a charge and I'm good. Yeah. Hey, give me something. I let's, Hey, I tell somebody, Hey, my grandma need a refrigerator and a deep freezer. And then I'm going to tell the other school, y'all need to build a house around that refrigerator and deep freezer. So we're going to be straight. We got to fly since I already hooked up, Ocho. Yeah, nah. Man, please.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Hey, the way we struggling too? Oh, man, Ocho, hey, I ain't going to lie, man lie man hey it was rough on mary port and her family oh yeah and if i could have made it easy hey somebody say hey shannon we got a you know we got a hundred thousand nil money bye you added up you know how much a hundred thousand was back then back in the 80s boy stop and and you know hey the phone bill get to be like 75 100 it's off for the month we could pay that baby man please hell no hey hey that's funny
Starting point is 00:51:40 hey my grandma working taking you work's working all them jobs, cleaning people's houses. I got to see my grandma go clean somebody's house and bathe people and all kinds of hell. Man, I'm done. I'm gone. Out of here. Quick. I mean, what the hell am I doing it for? Right.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Yeah, you're right. All somebody giving me NIL money, Ocho, or somebody giving me a bag all they did was speed the process up because I'm doing this for her anyway all you did was instead of having to wait to 1990 you sped it up you got me there a year
Starting point is 00:52:15 or two quicker man please I'm gone gone I tell you what my brother had an opportunity to come out his junior year and I remember having a conversation with him man you know what you think he said they tell me I'm gonna be a first round pick
Starting point is 00:52:34 and I remember having this conversation with him I said Spain we've been broke all our life I said we've been going hungry another year ain't going to kill us. So, hey. If you say you'll be a first-round pick, it's probably going to be middle to later in the first. And they say the next year you could be a top 10,
Starting point is 00:52:56 I'm good. Right. I invited a sausage and potty meet another year. One more year? Hell yeah. That's it. Sure will. Hey, I've been going outside
Starting point is 00:53:08 to the bathroom for 19 years. Another year ain't going to kill me. Nope, done got rained on. It's thundering and lightning. It's cold. Go rattle it up out there, Ocho. Another year ain't going to kill us, bro. Go back to school.
Starting point is 00:53:23 We'll lay right up in the house, look at see the sun, see the moon. It rain. Hey. That's funny. Who else we got? Brady Cook returns from the hospital to lead number 19
Starting point is 00:53:42 Tigers, Missouri Tigers to a comeback win over Auburn. Cook went to the hospital to lead the number 19 Tigers, Missouri Tigers, to a comeback win over Auburn. Cook went to the hospital for an MII, but later returned in the third quarter with Missouri down 17-6. Cook immediately led Missouri on his first touchdown drive of the game. Redshirt freshman Jamal Roberts finished things with a four-yard scoring plunge as Missouri defense stifled Auburn on 4th and 18 with less than 10 seconds left on the clock
Starting point is 00:54:07 to secure the win. Cook returned and the fact that it looks like he'll be okay moving forward is huge for the Tigers. Ain't never seen nothing like this in Ochoa. He pulled that Paul Pierce, huh? Wheelchair, MRI, come back in and act a fool.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah. But you know how long an MRI take on? Yeah, I do. I've had several of these badass hips. Hey, bad buddy went and got an MRI and came back and went crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I know how long it took.
Starting point is 00:54:43 It reminds me of a situation rest his soul goose man yeah man goose check this out man goose we playing in baltimore yeah and i know the fans of baltimore i know y'all remember this man goose got hit goose can't move goose can't move so they come out there they put a board up on his big ass and get him out the field. Get him out the field. Goose leaving the ambulance. Right. When he left in the ambulance?
Starting point is 00:55:14 Next thing you know, Goose come running back out on the field. I said, man. Man, I said, come on, man. Man. man I said come on man man hey what was wrong with you nothing you probably had to go to the bathroom
Starting point is 00:55:35 hey but that's funny man god damn man look here Goose was always doing something man they had to get Goose one time. Yeah, Lamar did. That also against Cleveland. Man, Goose had to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Goose said, whatever you do, don't roll me over. Man, Goose kept some bull jive going. He really did. Man, I say, say man first of all ain't no way in hell now especially NFL game they cart you off the field Ocho they gonna let you come back in the game
Starting point is 00:56:15 oh no man but the thing I think about some of the stuff that we did that they allowed ain't no way ain't did that they allowed. Yeah. Ain't no way. It wouldn't work. Ain't no way they allowed you to do that now.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Nope. Because I remember I knocked myself out in the game against the Patriots on a Monday night. Right. Missed like two quarters. Man, they got late in the ball game. They told me, hey, Sharp, we need you. Because they took my helmet at first. Oh, you went back in?
Starting point is 00:56:44 The game got close. Hey, I'm holding three fingers up. How many fingers I got up? Three. Let's go. You good? I went right on back. Y'all going to look it up.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I went right on back out there with you. Hell no. Hey, that's funny. Yeah. But that was unbelievable. I'm glad everything worked out for Brady Cook. Yeah. Left the game, goes and gets an MRI,
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Starting point is 00:58:35 but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal
Starting point is 00:59:38 that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that Thank you. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey,
Starting point is 01:01:14 Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. Arizona State coach Kenny Dillingham posted an apology on social media Saturday night
Starting point is 01:01:59 for his post-game criticism of kicker Ian Hershey. The kicker missed two fourth-quarter kicks as the Sun Devil tried to mount a comeback against Cincinnati. Dillingham said Sunday the team would be holding kicking trials on Monday. Our kicking game is atrocious. So if you can kick and you're in Arizona State, email me, right? We're going to have kicking trials on Monday.
Starting point is 01:02:20 So bring it on. Kicking trials Monday. Let's go. Yeah, I'm dead serious. We're going to put it out there on social media. We're going to have a kicking trial on Monday. So bring it on. Kick and trials Monday. Let's go. Yeah, I'm dead serious. We're going to put it out there on social media. We're going to have a kick and trial on Monday. We're going to find somebody who can make a field goal. It makes
Starting point is 01:02:31 it even harder late in games when you're clearly a kick scenario. That's when it gets really hard because you're like, hey, it's clearly a kick. You know definitely you want to take the points here. There's no doubt in your mind. Dillingham doubt in your mind. Dillingham laid an apology.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I would like to apologize for my post-game press conference. I talked about our kicking game like I do offense and defense. However, the kicking game is always directed at one player. I should not have done that, and I apologize. A team loses, as we always 100% falls on myself. Sun Devil for life. Hell nah. You don't fall on them goddamn yourself.
Starting point is 01:03:06 It's the kicker's fault. It's okay. It's okay to tell a truth sometimes. You have one job. The kicker has one job. You go out there to practice. You do one thing all practice for two hours.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Kick the goddamn ball. Yeah. Sometimes the game is on your shoulders. You have to kick the ball to win the game. In this instance, you want to take the points you miss field goals make the make the game closer maybe you might have had a chance to win at some point you never know you gotta make your kicks that's all you do hell if you don't goddamn scholarship they've wasted a scholarship on you
Starting point is 01:03:41 as a kicker and you're missing the goddamn kicks if you're at the next level. And you miss the kicks, you know what's going to happen to you? What at? Shit, you're going to get cut? Yeah, for sure. They're going to find somebody else that's going to make them? You don't need to apologize for that because all this does is get that individual
Starting point is 01:04:00 if he's choosing to be a kicker at the next level. This is how it's going to be. It ain't going to be no speech like that to the media. Ain't going to be a kicker at the next level this is how it's gonna be it ain't gonna be no speech like that to the media ain't gonna be no speech like that it's just stuff gonna be packed up in the goddamn locker and they're not they're not gonna let you in your gate code ain't gonna work at the next level what you do realize like colleges the scholarship is not for four years that thing gets renewed every year oh yeah come on because i know there are a lot of guys that came here with me the ones that didn't leave yeah uh once we got and started doing two days because like i said
Starting point is 01:04:31 ocho we ran before practice right because coach davis told us we had like 120 guys out there and coach davis said i got 60 uniforms he said i got to trim the fat right he read boy i couldn't go home. Yeah. Cause I wasn't working in the field. I was done with the field job. I, Hey, I saw my uncles and I saw men that was 20 and 30 years older than me. Like I'm not, I'm not going to do this.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I'm not going to be working no job, uh, making 20, $30 a day for the rest of my life with no benefits. And if I don't work, I need me a salary job. Even if I don't show up, I won't get paid. You know, when you work no job like that, you don't show up, you don't get paid. You don't get paid, yeah. It rained.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Oh, we can't go today. I don't get no check. I ain't got no insurance. So I was like, that ain't me. I ain't leaving. I ain't leaving because I knew there was nothing back home that was better than for me than what I had at Savannah State. Oh, yeah. So, but Coach Davis said, Coach Davis said, look,
Starting point is 01:05:34 some of y'all ain't going to be here next year. He just said, I know what y'all going to do. Y'all going to go home and you're going to tell your mom and dad, Coach Davis effed over me. But when they come in my office saying, you effed over my son, I'm going to pull the tape out. And I'm going to show them. I'm going to say, see, your son effing over me.
Starting point is 01:05:52 That's a good one. That's a good one. Simple. It's really that simple. Bro, it ain't complicated, Ocho. It's not. You got a job to do, do it. Everybody ain't perfect. Okay. You need to be more perfect
Starting point is 01:06:08 than not. I ain't say you got to be perfect all the time, but you better be more perfect than not. At least 90%. So I don't know what y'all want me to tell you because this is either get barn and porter, get good or get gone.
Starting point is 01:06:23 You got two choices. You can get good, excuse me. You can get good or you can get gone. Not which one you want to do. Yeah, and especially when it comes to this game, there's always someone that can replace you. Name the job.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Name the job that there's not somebody lined up to replace who's currently in that job every time whether you're president of the united states you're a senator you're you're you whatever the case may be you're a minister at a big church i guarantee you that people lined up to get that position yeah so you think as a professional athlete for a second. Take professional aside. Name the job. There isn't a job that there isn't people lined up to replace somebody
Starting point is 01:07:10 in said job. So if you think you will get, oh man, you know what? No, bro. When you making money to do something, I ain't trying to hear all them damn excuses. I'm really not. I don't think Coach should apologize. If anything,
Starting point is 01:07:25 listen, that's tough love. That's tough love. That's getting you ready for the next level. Because there ain't going to be no apologies when you make mistakes like that in the real world. Ain't no apologies. Hell no. Ain't no apologies. Sometimes you got one chance to mess up. Sometimes you don't have an opportunity
Starting point is 01:07:41 to miss two field goals. No. Sometimes you don't even get that chance. Oh, you miss two? Okay, boom. You gone. Like I said, Ocho, when you grow up like we grew up, and I had to learn this because a lot of how you raise your kid is how your parents or grandparents raised you.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Raised you, yeah. And it's hard for me because, and like Coach Prime, this is why Coach prime is a great teacher he says because you can't see those kids as you and he doesn't do that my grandfather was not big on repeating himself one time he said i'm not gonna chew this food twice i'm like you're gonna chew that food more than twice or you're gonna choke try to chew some food twice and swallow it see what happened to you right but what he meant he wasn't going to repeat himself right and i remember a conversation he had with my grandmother and she said barney don't be so hard don't be so hard on him he's
Starting point is 01:08:44 just a little fella. I was young, Ocho, but like I said, my grandfather died when I was in 77. So I was eight years old. He died in February. I was gonna turn nine in June. And she said, Barney, don't be so hard on him. He's just a little fella.
Starting point is 01:09:00 He said, Mary, he said, I got, he has to get what I'm telling him the first time. He said, Mary, he said, I got he has to get what I'm telling him the first time. He said, Mary, we live on a farm. He's going to be around heavy machinery. He's going to be around these animals that are dangerous. He said, Mary, I might not get a second chance. I need him to understand the importance of what I'm saying. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:24 And it really. and as I got older, I understood because I saw a man, Mr. Joe, Joe Tatum, who was the guy that we worked for. We worked for the Tatum brothers, but then they ended up splitting off. And he would always tell us, he's like,
Starting point is 01:09:41 Pee Wee, my name was Pee Wee. I know y'all guys can't believe it, but I was really small as a young fella, so they called me Pee Wee, my name was Pee Wee. I know y'all guys can't believe it, but I was really small as a young fella. So they called me Pee Wee. My cousin, his name was Sundown. That was his nickname, Sundown. Because, you know, he'd look up there and say, Mr. Joe, it's time to get off.
Starting point is 01:09:56 The sun's going down. So they started, they called him Sundown. But he would always tell us, is that never come up like the tractor that had what they called a PTO that powered all the equipment. He says, boys, never come up to the back of the tractor like this
Starting point is 01:10:12 because something bad could happen. You ain't going to tell me something, but once something bad can happen, I'm good. Ocho, we're in the field one day and I never forget dude name Fred. I forget Fred last name. Dang it. He came up there the back of the PTO equipment. He had on some
Starting point is 01:10:30 frayed jeans. It got caught up in that thing. You could hear it splitting his jeans. Next thing you know, Ocho, all you could do, I'm looking at it because it's from me to this camera. I'm looking. Next thing I know, he got his,
Starting point is 01:10:45 he got his foot in his hand. I took his foot off just like that. You see guys in a grinder lose a finger. Yeah. So that's why people like with Shannon, bro, I just, that's just the way we grew up.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Right. And it was hard for me to get out of that. And I realized, Shannon, you can't raise your kids like you were raised because it's different. It's different. And it was hard for me to get out of that. And I was like, you know what? It took a while, though, because their I was like, you know what? It took a while though.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Cause their mom was like, Shannon, they're kids. I said, I know they're kids. And I say, I wouldn't be as hard on them if they were going to stay kids forever. If they were going to stay between the ages of four and 10. Right. No problem. But what happened when they get 16? What happened when they get 16? What happens when they get 25?
Starting point is 01:11:49 So when people's like, oh, that's, oh, it's a mistake. No, no, bro. No, I ain't trying to hear all that. I'm really, I'm really not Ocho. And I'm hard on me. I beat myself up when I do that. I make a mistake. And that's the hardest thing, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Because I understand we're not perfect. Nobody's perfect. All I try to do, Ocho, is I try to shoot for the stars. And even if I land on the moon, I'm still pretty high up. Oh, yeah, most definitely. And that's the hardest thing. And so I get what Coach Dillingham is saying, and I understand that. And, like, that's why you got to be careful, Ocho, when you upset.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Because you, three people to tell you the truth. Kids, drunks, and angry people. When a mofo get mad at you. Yeah. Watch how they start talking to see how they talk about you. Tell you everything you want. Oh, that B. Oh, so you think I'm a B, huh?
Starting point is 01:12:41 Tell you everything. Tell you everything they be thinking. Every time. A drunk mind, a drunk mouth is a sober mind's thought. So whatever you say, oh, Joe, were you drunk? You thought about when you were sober. Whatever you do while you're drunk, you thought about it while you were sober. That's how it come to your consciousness.
Starting point is 01:13:00 See, I like that. I don't drink, but I'm going to write that down. A drunk mind. Yeah. see I like that I don't drink but I'm gonna write that down a drunk man a drunk yeah but that's a good one there a drunk man I don't drink but rarely motherfucking drinking so next time she gets
Starting point is 01:13:15 slicking them out I just know a drunk man is a sober man's thoughts I'm like bro so you got Ocho you gotta be careful you have to be careful is a sober man's thoughts. I'm like, bro. So you got, Ocho, you got to be careful. You have to be careful because a lot of times,
Starting point is 01:13:30 you know what people do? They try to, they try to disguise how they truly feel in jokes. Man, I was just, man, you know, I'm just playing. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Okay. A little envy. A little envy. Okay, you play it. I don't play like that. Everybody don't play the same. Okay. Little envy. Little envy. Okay, you play it. I don't play like that. Everybody don't play the same. No. I don't play with Teddy like I play with Titus.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Two different situations. Two different dogs. Right. I had a dog, Ocho. You couldn't look him in his eyes. He would bite you. He would bite you. He would bite you. I would have to put him up.
Starting point is 01:14:11 You couldn't come through the house running. I had a dog. I had to put him up. For whatever reason, he did not like my father. He was my stepfather, but we called him Pops. We had to put him up. Because the whole while Pops was sitting on the couch, all you hear,
Starting point is 01:14:26 the whole while, two dogs, Kane and Kane, called him Big Daddy. Big Daddy. He'd be like, and when I say and he know cause soon as I say
Starting point is 01:14:48 big daddy let's go he hop up and go cause he know he he want no parts of it you couldn't walk up on me that's how they work you could not walk up on me
Starting point is 01:15:04 I had a dog named what was his name? His name was Samson we called him Bo you couldn't hug me girlfriend couldn't hug me he would bite you he would light their ass up when Bucket got ready to leave
Starting point is 01:15:21 Bucket gave me dap I said Bucket you can't dap your homeboy he's like man come ass Bucket, when Bucket got ready to leave, Bucket gave me Dap. I said, Bucket, you can't Dap your homeboy up. He's like, man, come. Ask Bucket. Next time you see Bucket, ask him what Bo do if you Dap hug me. Hello. Hey, I'm Bob. Everybody don't play the same.
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