Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Giants' regrets, Cowboys Not all-in, Aiyuks's cryptic tweet

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss John Mara's comments about Saquon Barkley, Jerry Jones admitting Dallas will have to do more with less & Brandon Aiyuk's cryptic posts on social media. 0:00 Introduction03:45 John Mara says he was ‘sick’ over Saquon Barkley’s exit12:15 Mara says if the Giants fall in love with QB in draft, he’d be okay with drafting one19:30 Jerry Jones goes from “all in” to needing to win with what they’ve got31:30 Woody Johnson says Jets will keep Zach Wilson if they can’t trade him34:30 Hip drop tackle banned and coaches get 3rd challenge if 2 are successful36:00 Brandon Aiyuk sends cryptic note about contract with 49ers47:00 Sean Payton says he’s not stressing over QB situation51:00 NBA opens up investigation on Jontay Porter #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco iran contra on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello ladies and gentlemen thank you for joining us again for another episode of nightcap i am your favorite uncle shannon sharp He's your favorite number 85, route runner extraordinaire, bingo, ring of fame,

honorary, a legend, Liberty City's own, the bingos. He is a pro bowler. He's an all pro, and he's one of the great route runners of all time. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's get it right. What up, Ocho? No, no, no. The greatest, the greatest route runner of

all time, period. I still got Jimmy. Matter of fact, you know what we can add to that? When we do my intro, I need you to do my intro like Buffer. What's his name? Michael Buffer? I need you to do it like that. I want you to say the greatest route runner and entertainer of all time.

One of the great route runners in NFL history. Please make sure you subscribe to Nightcap Podcast Feed. You can listen to Nightcap through the Club Shave Shave Feed, but we would greatly appreciate it if you subscribe to the Nightcap Podcast Feed. Thank you guys again for selling out Shave by LaPortier. We have pinned the link at the top of the chat. We're taking pre-orders only.

We got to ship them in, and we should be able to fulfill all orders. But thank you. Thank you. Thank you again. Ocho, let's not waste any time. It's time for our first segment of the night. And it's called a news cap. News cap.

News cap. John Mara told Saquon Barkley he was sick of his Giants exit. John Mara texted Saquon Barkley what it felt like to see him leave the Giants. Mara said today, pretty quickly after the signing period, I told him I was sick about losing him. He told me he told him he was a class act and it was very nice exchange we had. W capital WTF. That's all I got to say for right now. I'm going to let you take it away. Capital W-T-F. Listen, as owners, I'm not sure. All that shucking and jiving,

that's what I call it. That's that shucking and jiving. Now, if you really appreciated and valued Saquon Barkley, he would have gotten the contract. Listen, when you're dating someone and you value that individual, you pour into them. There's a certain type of upkeep that is required and comes with it when you care about something in general. You show that. You show that.

So with John Mara, John Mara had the ability to take care of Saquon Barkley and show him how he really felt about him. He did show it. That's why he at Philly. My point exactly. So I'm sure Saquon probably saw this, and I hope he understands,

able to read through the lines, and that is all. I call it smoke and mirrors. Because if you really cared about me, you really valued me as a player, there's no way in hell I would be in goddamn Philly, and we would have took care of me last year because you know what I bring to the table as an offensive weapon. And the fact that your running back was probably your best offensive

weapon and you didn't want to take care of him let you know how he really felt about you. And that's where it counts. That's where it counts. When an organization really cares about a player, you know how they show you they care? Money. That checkbook. That check about a player, you know how they show you they care? Money. That checkbook.

That checkbook. Listen, you know, when it comes when you're dating somebody, you know how women are. You know, one of their love languages is? Gifts. Gifts. So how do you show them you care about them? You spend what? Your money.

That's life. That's just, that's the way it goes in all types of businesses. When it's time for a pay raise, if your boss, if you're doing your goddamn job and your boss is appreciative

of what you bring to the table and what you've done for that corporation or that entity, you know how they show you? Money. Yeah, for sure. And that goddamn bull jab

and sending me that goddamn text message after I'm gone selling me that goddamn dream. Nigga, please. And that goddamn bulljab and sending me that goddamn text message after I'm gone selling me that goddamn dream. Nigga, please. I wouldn't even respond to it. I wouldn't. I would have blocked that number so fast. Stop playing with me.

Because, Ocho, what we know is that when we deal with guys like a Saquon, and you deal with a guy that's getting $100 million, everything goes all the way to the top of the flagpole, which is the owner. Yes, sir. And then it to the top of the flagpole, which is the owner.

Yes, sir. And then it comes back down to the general manager, then to the coaches. Okay, we're going to do this deal. For Saquon Barkley to be on the other team, you're not sick. You're upset because your fans are giving you the business after you gave, and we're going to talk about this

in a second, Ocho, what you did for Daniel Jones. That's what, you're not sick that Saquon left because if you wanted Saquon, as you said, Ocho, the deal would have gotten done last year. You're not sick because even, and I made the analogy, even if you love your girl and you don't put a ring on it,

you make sure she knows how much you love her. You take care of everything. Baby, don't worry about it. What you need? You need your aid. You need your apartment taken care of? I got that. Or your house?

I got that. Your car? I got that. Here's maintenance. For your daily upkeep, for your monthly upkeep, I got all that. I'm showing you, although I haven't put a ring on it, made the long term, I'm making a commitment to let you know. Know.

Okay. EF you know. Okay. He F with me. He F with me. No second thoughts. Ain't no second thoughts. Ain't no second thoughts. So, for this, all this, all this talking, oh, I'm sick. No, you're not sick, man. Don't do that. Don't insult the, hopefully, the fans

are not falling for this, that this man is sick, that Saquon left when you, you and you alone. Hold on. Now this is what I don't get on show. Now I remember when the Anthem thing, the Anthem protest was going on and Colin Kaepernick, he made it abundantly clear that he was in charge.

There was no ifs, ands, and buts about it. The buck stopped at his. He was reading the emails. He was reading the letters and he was letting ifs, ands, and buts about it. The buck stopped at his. He was reading the emails. He was reading the letters. And he was letting the fans, reassuring the fans that he was also disappointed. Now come to find out it's the general manager.

Now all of a sudden come to find out it's Brian Dayball. He got no control, although his dad, Wellington Mara, founded the Giants. Now I understand it's a 50-50 partnership. The tissues also are 50% on him. But John Mara is the face of the Giants. But he has no say that Saquon Barkley is in Philly. He's sick. Man, stop playing, man.

Listen, it's the game that they play. How you tell your girl, Ocho, you sick, baby? I am so hurt that we're no longer together. You could have did something about it. Yeah, most definitely. The thing that you're supposed to do about it is when you're together, you're supposed to do right. You're supposed to do right. That's all.

It's simple. It's simple. It's not that hard. We understand that the value of the running back position is not viewed the way it once was. How about you come out and just be honest with Saquon in your text message? Listen, the way things are viewed now at this position, it made it hard for me to give you the value and pay you what you're worth. Simple.

Well, you can't be sick. That's it. That's all you had to say. Be honest. You don't have to do all that shucking and driving and lying about, oh, I'm sick. I'm sad you gone. Man, pussy, you should have paid him. Oh, shit. My bad. My bad. My bad.

I'm thinking I'm talking to my homeboys. My bad. I'm sorry. You are talking to your homeboy. We just live in, you know, 50,000 in the chat. I lost myself. My bad. I lost myself.

My bad. Well, that's how you feel about him, huh? No, no, no. My bad. Chat. Excuse me. I didn't really mean John Mary in general. Just the fact that the situation in itself, like, come on with the bullshit.

Now, don't run no game on me. Now, if you're going to pay me, pay me. If you're not, you're going to let me walk. Don't send me no goddamn messages. You know, after we break up, talk about, oh, you miss me. Man, stop playing with my top. Yeah, for real. Don't play with my top. Yeah, for real. Don't play with my top like that, man.

That's insulting. Saquon, I hope Saquon blocked him. Saquon, I hope you see this. Block him. Even playing with you like that, man. Oh, nah, I'm sick. Nah, I'm hurt. That's like your girl.

That's like your girl leave you. That's like your girl leave you for somebody else. And boom, she see, but damn, this ain't what I thought it was. I mean, I thought the grass was green on the other side and you try to, she tried to spin the block. Man, stop playing with me, man. No, hold your word. You still a peanut head ass from over here?

I would do you one better. Come on, talk to me now. Y'all not together no more. She with her dude. Right. And she hit you. You know you steal the love of my life. Get the fuck out of here.

I would hear that, booja. You with the love of your life. If I was the love of your life, you'd have stayed your monkey ass over here with me. If I was not the love of your life, you'd be with the love of your life. But you're going to try to play it all. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stay over there. Don't worry about it.

Don't you even worry about that. O'Shea going to be all right over here. But, just remember, hey, I'm going to be like Michael Jackson. Do you remember the times? Yeah. When we fell in love? Okay.

Yeah. I feel like you fell out of love with O'Shea. Don't you? Yeah. Hey, O'Shea, I'm a little shook up right now. Right. Like I said, I'm a little shook up right now, O'Shea. Yeah.

We're going to get over that, though. We're going to get over that, though. We're going to get over that. As my grandfather used to say, boy, sunshine follows rain. It rained 40 days and 40 nights. It's never rained like that again. And guess what? On the 34th day, the sun came out.

And once that sun come out, you already know what time it is. There ain't no looking back. And I got my shades on. That's all right. You're going to read about me. You're going to see me. You're going to be sick. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Now you're talking... Now you're trying to get back at you because I can't get ahead trying to get back at you. I can't do that. I can't get ahead. Listen. I can't get ahead.

Because that means, see, if you back there... Right. I got to go back there to tell you... Nah, we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. No, no, no. we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. No, no, no.

We ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. Because you can't see where you're going if you got to look through the rearview mirror. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Huh? John, man, I need to be ashamed. But he also said this.

Even though they signed Daniel Jones to a $160 million deal last year, John Merrill said he's giving general manager Joe Schoen and Brian Dayball the green light to draft a quarterback if they desire. The Giants hold the sixth pick in an especially strong quarterback draft. Mara said if they fall in love with a quarterback and believe that it's worth it with the pick number six or moving up, I certainly would support that. Now all of a sudden, now all of a sudden, you the owner again

and you give them your blessing to move up in the draft or stay pat and get a quarterback. But you had no say whether or not Saquon Barkley got an opportunity to stay. You see that blue job on Choke? That's what I'm talking about.

That's what I'm talking about. They move the goalposts depending on who the topic is or what the position is. Obviously, we understand the importance of the quarterback position in the NFL because as your quarterback goes, your team goes. We understand that.

Now, again, with this goddamn draft class, I understand where he's coming from. We got some special fellas out there. Some special fellas out there. I'm not sure there's anybody that's going to be there at six because I think the best one's going to be off the board by the time six come. That's what I'm thinking.

But what did he say? If you love somebody, you can move up. Yeah. In other words, you can mortgage the future to keep what we need today. Yeah, but listen.

But Saquon, it broke me. I'm all shook up. Man, it broke my heart. I'm sick. Hmm. I don't like that. And I hate this. I don't like when they play

them games like that. Nah, man, don't do that. How about this? Be honest, be honest for a change. I would love for our owner to be like that for a change. Send Saquon a text and be like, man, listen, man.

I love you. I like what you done for us, but we don't really value the running back position the way we once did. So I really, really couldn't pay you the kind of money you wanted. So we wanted you to play on the franchise tag until we found a team willing to trade for you. And we did just that. So simple. That's it. I wish you the best of luck in Philly and Case Closed. Not going about your business. Thank you.. That's it. I wish you the best of luck in Philly and Case Closed. Not going about your business. Thank you. Tell me the truth.

Even if it hurt me. Even if it hurt me. If you don't want to be with me no more, let me know. Yes. And keep it a... Let me know. Keep it a stat. Yeah. Ocho, you know what makes when women talk about, well, I just need to find myself. Self isn't something you find

Self is something you create I didn't find Shannon Sharp I created it Come on now What you see at this moment I created this I didn't find this Yes, sir

Come on, Cresha I just need to find me some happiness Right You create happiness Where can you find it? Tell me the place happiness is. You can go any place you want to, but if you're not happy inside, you're

just a miserable person in paradise. As a matter of fact, and don't put the goddamn onus of keeping you happy on me. I don't want that responsibility. I don't want that responsibility where I have to keep you happy.

That shit start with you. Yes. Every morning you wake up, you look in that goddamn mirror and you got to be happy. It ain't got nothing to do with me. Because if you put that responsibility on me, she.

How do you find happiness in another person? Come on now. He don't know what you're experiencing. He or she doesn't know what you're going through in a given moment. We're supposed to read minds sometimes. Sometimes you got to read a mind. Sometimes you got to read body language. You got to go do hoops and hurdles

to understand what's going on. I mean, we all off topic, but that's a good one. What we're trying to say is that you and I are both upset because in one breath, he had no control over Saquon leaving. In the same breath, he gave one quarterback $160 million, $40 million a year just last year.

But if you want to take a quarterback with the sixth pick in the draft, which we own, or you want to move up to mortgage later, the future, you have my blessing. So they had your up to mortgage later, the future, you have my blessing. So they had your blessing to do that, but they didn't have your blessing to sign Saquon. So that's what you're telling me. Let him go. We don't value the position. Okay, you don't value me.

It's okay. I'm okay. Hey, you believe that you can find someone that can do the job that I was doing cheaper or better than I can do it. I can't begrudge Ocho. The Broncos let me go. The Ravens released me. It's okay.

Because the way I look at it, I'm not disappointed that I got released. Right. I'm disappointed that you actually think you can find somebody to do what the F I do better than what I can do it. Have they found somebody yet? Come on,

stop playing. Had they found somebody yet? Think about it. Do what I do. Have they found somebody yet? Think about it. See, I'm more than just stats.

Yes, sir. I'm more than just stats. You can't quantify my value with just stats. What I do on the field. You better think about how I keep the locker room tidy. Yeah. You better think about how I talk to the guys and make sure they're ready to play.

Yeah. More than just a number. More than just 84. Yes. It's more than just that. And listen, they'll never see the value in us the way we see each other though. They'll never see that side. They'll never see that side.

It's always business at the end of the day. And that will never change. No matter how many times they smile in your face. No matter how many times they shake your hand. No matter how many text messages they send you. It's always business at the end of the day. All I'm saying is this, O ocho is that if i'm an if i'm an athlete in today's time i'm thinking my side hustle i'm not waiting to because i think

a lot of mistakes and i've told athletes this i say a lot of mistakes that you make you wait until you're the final year and you say well shannon i want to do tv okay so what tv has you're in the final year and you say, well, Shannon, I want to do TV. Okay. So what TV has you done in the first 10 years of your career? The first 13 years. When they ask you to come by the radio, the TV station and host a segment on sports, go do it. Hell, out of the way. Call me. I'm gone.

Shannon, can you come by Friday night? We'd like to have an athlete. I'm there. Oh, Shannon, we'd like to have a... What do you think about doing a radio show? Okay. Yeah. Build a relationship. Yeah. Got a guy now. He runs iHeart. He was my producer

in Denver when I had a radio show. As a matter of fact, it was me and Scott Haston. What's up, Scotty? That's what I'm saying, Ocho. Even though I didn't know I was going to be as far into the media of fact it was me and scott haston what's up scotty that's what i'm saying ocho i was built even though i didn't know i was going to be as far into the media as i am right but i was just preparing myself just in case someone said okay here's an opportunity right yeah hey that's it

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It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Check this out, Ocho. Here's another one. Jerry Jones goes from all in. Oh, wait. Come on, man. Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Hold on. Check this out what he said, Ocho. Again? No, check this out what he said. Jerry Jones goes from all in to needing to win with less. The Cowboys were all in in February, but in March, not so much. Jerry Jones says, I've been more all in before by any definition, and I have more all in to make a run back to the line of scrimmage than I have to run for 50 yards. It took more than

all in just to get back to the line of scrimmage than it did to run 50 yards. Sometime, that is a bigger challenge. That is really the gist of what we're about this year. We've got to get it done. I think we've been in a situation where we really can get it done with lesser. More doesn't necessarily mean beat Green Bay. Man, y'all seen Jerry. Jerry actually thought he was writing a dissertation on that legal notepad, and y'all saw what was on it.

You know what? I just want to apologize to the most important figure in the Cowboys franchise right now in Dak Prescott. I just want to say, Dak, I know you're going to see this. Bro, I love you. I love you dearly. You know how I feel about you. You know when I see you.

But the fact that you have to deal with that, I feel for you. For someone that doesn't actually love the game the way you think he should love the game and understand what I need to do to make sure my team that I run so I can get the credit for, he really doesn't get it yet. And the fact that you have to deal with that and smile at that and really understand how he feels about you and knowing that he's still not going to change and still won't get from in front of the camera so you can do the job that you need to do without the added pressure from the top uh Dak I I I love you bro and and then like that's like at at some point we just talked about this

last night we just talked about bulletin board material that is adding unneeded pressure to a team that has not achieved the greatness that you once had in 94, 95, and 96, whatever the years were. Stop talking about it. You don't have to.

There's nothing else to say. Cowboys fans, I apologize to y'all as well. I apologize because you shouldn't have to endure this shitboys fans, I apologize to y'all as well. I apologize. Because you shouldn't have to endure this shit. You shouldn't have to. No other, any other owners, any other owners talking? Any other owners having, you know, just like, come on, man. Jerry's supposed to be on his yacht somewhere.

Jerry's supposed to be on his yacht somewhere enjoying yourself enjoying your off time allowing the players you know to do what they do like come come on Jerry does he realize just a month ago after the loss to Green Bay he came out and said we're all in we was trying to think okay all in that means they're going to be big in free agency. They're going to make sure they sign their guys. Obviously, Micah is at the front of the list. CeeDee Lamb needs to be a guy they need to take care of. Dak Prescott's contract, even though it went from $59 million to $55 million, because his roster bonus was turned into a signing bonus,

two boardable years were added to spread that out to give him some relief but here we are right now um you look at they they signed eric kendricks they lost doris armstrong they lost tyler beatish they lost dante fowler they lost tony pollard uh i think they re-signed jordan lewis to a

one-year deal their long snapper to a one-year deal but a long snapper to a one-year deal. But a lot of guys, a lot of depth guys are gone now. And so I think Jerry actually forgot that he said they're all in. Now, he came back and tried to walk, that Steven tried to walk that back, says, hey, what we mean is that we're going to sign all our players. Now he's saying we need to win with less.

How the hell are you going to win with less when you couldn't win with more? Yeah. Yeah. Now what they do, what they do have to do, what they do have to do is they have to take care of the three-headed monster. You have to take care of your nucleus. Okay. For one, that's Dak Prescott. That's a no-brainer.

CeeDee Lamb, that's a no-brainer. Micah Parsons, that's a no-brainer. CeeDee Lamb, that's a no-brainer. Micah Parsons, that's a no-brainer. But at some point with the cap, the way the cap is, the way the cap is going up, I don't know the numbers. I'm not sure where they are as far as cap space. The cap is 255, 255 million this year.

Okay, but what they can do is they can fill some other spots, get some depth, even though you lost players. There are many, many good players that can be an acquisition and help that team this year whether it be on the offensive side of the ball whether it be on the defensive side of the ball i know they needed number two i know that i know you need another

corner i know that they released they released uh michael gallup Obviously, with the neck injury, it became prohibitive for Kyle Vanden... Vandenbosch. Vandenbosch. Vandenbosch. Yeah. To play. So he retired. He released and he later retired.

And so you're right. They need a number two. It's going to be very, very interesting that you're talking about winning with less when you said you were all in meaning more. So I don't know where Jerry is all over the board. This is what he also said. He also said he doesn't regret playing Ezekiel Elliott,

a massive money for a running back. Rather, he believes his lesson from that part of what makes him the best option for the Cowboys GM. What I can do for our fans is learn from what we did with Zeke. I can learn. I can look back and make the comparison, and I'm more likely to learn from that than some new face. I really am.

I believe that as long as I can do my homework and I got my energy. First of all, you're not doing any homework, Jerry. The scouts, they're preparing all the notes. You're doing limited. That's not you. You're a businessman. You're not a football guy. I'm not so sure Jerry Jones knows the difference between a screenplay

and a screen porch at this point. Stop this. I'm not so sure Jerry Jones knows the difference between a screenplay and a screen porch at this point. Stop this. I'm confused. So he can learn from the situation with Ezekiel Elliott, but he can't learn that maybe I need to take a backseat. And maybe the results that we're looking for in bringing a Lombardi back to Dallas, maybe I'm in the way. Oh, we don't see that. Nope. Nope.

Nope. He doesn't see that. He ain't trying to see. Remember, I told you the blindest man is the one that cannot see. It's the one that chooses not to see. Sometimes you lose your ability of sight. You know what I think? But if it's there

and you choose not to see it, when you have a choice and you choose not to see, you're the blindness of the blind. You know it could happen, but I know it wouldn't. I mean, it's impossible. It's impossible for that many people to band together.

And I think if the Cowboys want change outside of the players and organization, the fans would have to do something. The fans in Dallas would have to do something if they really want change. You know what? Hell, first home game, don't motherfucking show up watch watch that bitch from home everybody watch it from home watch it from home and watch what happened and watch what i got yeah i guarantee you there will be some changes starting at the top well jerry you know what obviously i think at this point the top. Jerry, you know what? Obviously, I think at this point, they are sick of you. You know how we know

they're sick of you? Because it's only 3,000 people. Jerry's world. It's only 3,000 out there. I'm just saying. Because if the bottom line will always be what the bottom line is, as long as the money is still churning,

even though the results are not what you want and the fans are still showing up every Sunday when you got a home game, ain't nothing going to change. And he's made that abundantly clear. The Cowboys have some of the most devoted. Oh, yeah. Very great family. Loyal. Great fan base. Fans out there. Great fan base. Loyal, furbish. Great fan base. Fans out there.

Great fan base. So the likelihood of them not going to a game, that probably not going to happen. And this is the problem. Did you hear what you just said? Yes. They're the most loyal and devoted fan bases of all 32 teams. So they're deserving of the shit that they get for being as loyal as they are. And they're not getting it.

So how do you change that? Because I'm not a Cowboy fan. I'm a fan of the players that are on that team. How do you get that? Because you got somebody that refuses

that think it's a goddamn reality show. That's how he's running. It ain't no damn reality show. Come on, Jerry. Go relax. Kick your feet up, man. Get you a martini, a mimoso,

a drop lemon, or whatever it is that, you know. Lemon drop. Man, whatever. Whatever them rich folks be drinking. Drop tackle is what you're talking about. There's a difference

between a drop tackle and a lemon drop, but we get it. I'm just throwing the names and jogging my memory. I'm just, come on, Jerry. There's a difference between a drop tackle and a lemon drop, but we get it. I'm just throwing the names and jogging my memory. I'm just... You want a sugar rim on your lemon drop?

A who? A sugar rim. You talking about above the rim. I saw that movie. That was a good movie with Tupac. Yeah, man.

I just... I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't have any answers. I don't have any answers because you know we're not going to listen to us. So I'm just, I'm talking and going in one ear and out the other. Like, who the hell am I? You ain't going to listen to me, but I'm just saying the fans need to do something. They need to do something because they're going to get the same results week in and week out and year in and year out because until they take a stand and say you know what we sick of this as fans we're tired stop telling us what's gonna happen stop tell us what you're gonna do and just do it don't show up and watch what happened uh but you know he got a 225 million dollar yacht it's 357 feet long uh bravo eugenia uh that's his wife's name. He calls her Jeannie.

Yeah. Named after his wife. Wait, he named the yacht after his wife? Yes. Oh, that's some Wolf of Wall Street type shit. I like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

But I'm finna go get me. I'm finna go get me a yacht too. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a puss. I will put whoever, who can I put on a bass boat? Because that's about the biggest thing. I don't really be doing the boats, Ocho.

Right. You know, the first boat ride kind of got my people shook up. So I heard about the first boat ride they came up on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm good. I feel you right. Listen, I live in Miami and I don't be on the water. I live in Miami and I'm never on the water.

It's weird. I don't take advantage and I always see people like come to Miami, oh, I want to be on the water. I live in Miami and I'm never on the water. It's weird. I don't take advantage and I always see people like come to Miami or I want to get on a yacht. I want to do this. Yeah. Nah, I'm good. I'm good. Because I just something about the water and like I went to school on the beach all my goddamn life.

I went to North Beach Elementary on South Beach. I went to Nautilus where my grandma taught on South Beach. I went to Miami Beach Senior High on South Beach. So I was sick of being by the beach by the time I was a little older to do some of the fun activities. I ain't been on the water in years. Right.

It's, uh... Ooh, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry. Owner Woody Johnson of the New York Jets vows that if they can't trade Zach Wilson, they're going to keep him. Last month criticized Wilson's 2023 performance.

Walked back, those comments says, if we don't trade him, we're going to keep him. He called Wilson a valuable asset. The Jets are looking to upgrade the backup position. Signed Tyrod Taylor, 34 years of age, two years, $12 million. Robert Sala called Taylor an elite locker room presence. Yeah, I like that. I like Tyrod.

I like Tyrod. I love Tyrod. They like Tyrod more than they like your boy, Zach. Yeah, understanding Tyrod's resume has been not as impressive as I'd like, but he's been very efficient when he's had the opportunities to play. I like Tyrod. I think he's gotten the short end of the stick, you know, during his career. Obviously, the incident with the punctured lung, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, the charges. Yeah, with the short in that area. And in this time, I still can't blame Zach Wilson. I just can't. He can't be Superman. He can't be Superman. He can't be Superman. You have to do right by that individual. Can he be Clark Kent?

I mean, he could be that. Most of the time, he'd be playing like Lois Lane. I mean, well, shit, you'd be like Lois Lane, too, if every time you dropped back, they was on your head. But I'm not here to talk about anybody. I love zach uh i think he just went into a rough situation and it wasn't a situation in his favor especially from an offensive perspective and i i've been doing it all year you know i'm a i'm a i'm a praise young bull man to to the end of. And I think it was a better situation. We would have got to see the Zach Wilson we were used to seeing.

Or the Zach Wilson I saw at BYU. That motherfucker was electric. The one that you only saw for one year? Yeah, he was awesome. Yeah, he was, yeah. Zach Wilson was that boy. And he still is that boy. He just got a tough situation, you know, with the Jets. So, it is what it is.

Even an alley cat will find a whole chicken in the trash every once in a while. He ain't gonna always find scraps, Ocho. Yeah, I like that. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. But listen, you know, you know. I do know. Yeah. I do know. I told you again, Jesus and the 12

disciples could have came down there. Jesus could have played a goddamn quarterback for the Jets. Nah. It wouldn't have worked. Huh? Hey, listen, G. He turned water into wine. Yeah.

Playing quarterback for the Jets? Mm-mm. It wouldn't have worked. Check this out, Ocho. The NFL approved. We understood. We talked about this last night. The hip drop tackle

has officially been banned. Yeah. Unanimous approval. But there's also a new rule. The NFL approves a rule change for a successful challenge attempt awarded to a team third attempt. So therefore, if you get the first two successful, you're granted the third attempt.

I like that. That's dope. I love it. I don't like it. I love it. That's fair. That's fair. Especially, you know,

your eye in the sky talking to you and let you know, listen, we need to throw that red challenge flag and they're sure of it. That can be very advantageous for teams offensively. Well, and defensively

based on the scenario, based on, you know, what's going on in the game. Right. So I like it. Because here's the thing, Ojo. So you're going to punish me. You F up twice.

Yeah. I get them both right. And now I'm out of challenges because you F'd up. F'd up, yep. Nah, hell nah. Give me another one. Because I know y'all going to do it again. You're two for two.

So you're trying to go perfect three for three. So let me get a challenge to the F you up. But I like the rule change. It should have always been like that. I hope basketball goes to that. You get a challenge to the F you up. But I like the rule change. It should have always been like that. I hope basketball goes to that. You get a one challenge. If you get it right, you should get a second one. Check this out, Ocho. Brandon and IU post a cryptic message

amid ongoing contract extension talk. This morning, 49ers GM John Lynch dispelled any notion of San Francisco trading the star wide-eyed. Nothing is going on there. We've actively talking to Brandon, trying to figure some things out. Iuke posted a cryptic story on Instagram. You want me to break it down for you?

He basically said money talks and that bullshit walk. Y'all stop playing with my time. Why do they always do this? We got to fight tooth and nail for our money. We always got to fight tooth and nail for our money. But when it comes to the quarterback position, oh, man, they knocking down your goddamn front door

with the money. Yeah, but he look like he might be good in two years, Ochoa, so let's go ahead and pay him now. Yeah. Listen, Brandon Ayuk, the resume is on film. The it's on film. The resume, it's on film. We saw what he can do. One of the better

of the route runners and ball catchers in the NFL today. What is there to talk about? Ain't shit to talk about at all. I'm not sure what Brother Lynch,

you know, who I respect dearly. Yeah. What are we doing? Yeah. Turn on the film. The work has been put in. If you don't want him, Brother Lynch, you know, who I respect dearly Yeah What are we doing? Yeah Turn on the film The work has been put in If you don't want him, let him know Let him go

Let him know Man, listen, I don't think things are going to work out We love what you did for us But we're thinking about going in a different direction Maybe drafting somebody young That might not give us the same production But the money you're looking for, we really don't want it to go

into that area. Let's talk like that. You should have traded him because you already knew you got Kittle making top two tight end money. You got Debo making great money. Now, what's the likelihood you're going to have two guys making top, three

guys making top money at a skilled position. What, four? Wait, what? Four, with C-Mac. C-Mac. No, I'm saying on offense. C-Mac is the highest paid running back. Kittle is the highest paid tight end.

Adibo making probably top 10 money. And now you're going to get IU. Tackle. Yes. Yeah. So, and you know, what you call them going to be looking for

the quarterback. Who that? Oh, yeah. The quarterback. Purdy got one more year, right? One more year? Yes. One more and then

they got to visit him. They ain't got no choice. They don't have no choice. I hate when they play games. And listen, another team that's I love my Bengals. I love my Bengals. I hate when they play games. And listen, another team that's... I love my Bengals.

I love my Bengals. But let's stop playing with T. Higgins like that. Let's stop playing. You're not going to pay Ocho. You're not going to pay him, Ocho. You're not going to pay him. You don't have no money to pay him. Stop playing.

Stop playing. He's very deserving. I love my Bengals. I love very deserving. I love my Bengals. I love Mike Brown. I love everything they've done for me. Go ahead and trade him and get a third round pick for him and keep it moving. Because you can't pay him. You're not going to pay T. Higgins.

Excuse me. You're not going to pay Jamar Chase what he's looking for. Somewhere between $29 and $32 million. Joe Burrow making $50 plus million. You're not finna pay another skilled position player $32 million. Joe Burrow making $50 plus million. You're not finna play no other. You're not finna play another skill position player. $28 million? So you got basically $100 million.

So in other words, you're going to have $100 million tied up to three players. Three players, yeah. You're not. That ain't happening. You're not. You're not. So just go ahead, Trey. He doesn't want to play on the franchise

tag he wants a security like this is what i don't get by the owner the player see y'all need to think like i'll be thinking fox ain't do no one-year deal with them espn ain't do no one-year deal nbc cbs they don't do no one-year deal oh no they got 10 mofo years. And I'm supposed to be happy with one year. You ain't take no TV deal. I guarantee, show me the deal that the NFL has done with any partner. That's for one year. The deals are at least five. Five, ten.

Netflix, they did a Netflix deal. Ten years. The TV deal. 10 years. The CB, the TV deal. 10 years. Yep. But hey, we give y'all one year to be happy. But you know what? You make it top five. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We'll give you the same amount of money.

But we want to do it year to year. And if you, if the ratings are not up, hey, we, hey, you know, the rating was kind of down this year and i know we paid y'all you know we y'all probably made about 12 10 billion the rating were down so we need some of that we know we're not gonna be able to do that they're not going for that nah nah never that but listen this i love t i love t i wish i wish there was a way, hypothetically speaking, that we could make it work.

And then you got people. This is Twitter in general. Oh, my goodness. There's a chance we might get Justin Jefferson and Chase. So you're going to have two receivers making $30 million. So 60 million in receivers and a $50 million quarterback. Come on now, man. Sometimes I want to engage and say something like, come on.

Can we be realistic, please? We talk about two of the premier receivers that are up for contracts that are commanding top dollar, and both of them waiting to see who go first. Yes. You already know what time it is. Yes. Everybody waiting. If you get 30, I'm getting 31.

But if you get… It's CD Yes. Well, hell, if you get 30, I'm getting 31. Well, if you get... And CD over there like, okay, go ahead. All three of them play a double-dutch, okay? They wait for one of them to jump in. And when the other one jump in, hey. I'm overlapping. Yes. Yeah.

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There's nothing to go back and forth with agents about if there's no traction or any motion based on because you have so many other players on offense already tied up contractually, let Brandon go. Let him go because there are teams that are going to pay him top dollar that can use him. They can use his services. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small. Through raw conversations, real stories, and actionable guidance, you can learn to face the mountain that is in front of you.

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I'm glad. You know how it is. When they come out there, oh, we got the Bengals. They ain't saying, well, you know what? We're going to take our best corner. We're going to put him on what you call him. And then we're going to help the coverage over the top. They say, find number one, locate one. And then we're going to play football after that. We're going to put him on what you call him. And then we're going to help the coverage over the top. They say, find number one, locate one.

And then we're going to play football after that. I like that you did that. But again, there are very few teams in NFL, very few teams. We have two number ones on the field. And when I look at Chase and I look at Tee Higgins, we got two different types of receivers that get the job done in two different ways. But I don't see Tee as a number two i don't see i see chase i see both of them as two number ones that do the job differently different type

of skill sets different type of players all together but i do a lot of number ones a lot of times ocho what we've seen happen more times than not we've seen twos go get number one money and it doesn't work out. We saw it with Alvin Harper. We saw it with Peerless. But let's talk about this. When Chase was injured, what did Tee Higgins do? Tee Higgins stepped up.

We're talking about five. You're talking about five games. I need to see this over the course of a season because you wouldn't allow someone to say, well, dude had five bad games. If I told you, say, dude had five bad games, you say, man, that's only five games. Man, there's 17 games in a season. You won't give me five?

This is what you do. The small symbol size that I did see where T. Higgins was the number one, oh, he showed up and he showed out. He was available. He was on point. He was consistent. Hell, even when Joe Burrow was down and brownie was a quarterback t higgins was still consistent was still when the opportunities came his way he

still made the plays to me someone that you can count on consistently no matter what and the offense can still go through him and you don't miss a beat to me that is the number one now i saw i saw you gotta put him on a team yeah and there is no there is no chase and there is no chase coming back he's gotta be the

cause we've seen it we've seen guys be number twos elsewhere be twos behind Michael Urban be twos and then go elsewhere

okay yeah but TT's not that based on this when I send the eight when you get that boy dog every week when you get the Jalen Ramsey's when you get the Pat Sartain's when you get the boy dog every week, when you get the Jalen Ramseys,

when you get the Pat Sertans, when you get the Saltz Gardeners, when you get the... What's the dude? Diggs. Yeah. When you get those guys and you get them every single week.

I like that. You ain't never getting a two or a three. You getting one every week. I like that. You ain't never getting a two or three. You getting one every week. I like that. I got goosebumps. Exactly. I got goosebumps. It ain't no rest for the weary.

I got goosebumps. Because everybody you just named, right now, right now, I saw every last... Jair Alexander. Jair. Jair. Jair. Lattimore. Sauce Gardner.

Lattimore. Pass or tame. Look at this work. Pass or tame. Boy, I turn your motherfucking number two jersey upside down, boy. Come play with me. Who else? Give me somebody else.

McDuffie. McDuffie? Jalen Ramsey. McDuffie from Kansas City. Jalen Ramsey. You know what time it is, boy. Fins up, boy. I'm not the one.

Give me somebody else. Let me talk shit to these niggas. Diggs, I hope you're coming back healthy. If you want some work this season, let me know. I'll get you, right? Come on, who else? Give me somebody else. I just named 10 corners, A, but 10, I mean, we caught up.

All 10 of you motherfuckers, nigga. C-Lo, nigga. Get some. Sean Payton not stressing over the Broncos quarterback situation. He better be. Earlier this month, the Broncos haven't signed a replacement nor improved their draft position to give them a better chance to select a franchise quarterback at the position. That inactivity might have created a level of concern for the fan base,

but Sean Payton made it clear that the acquisition period is far from complete. I'd rather the angst be now than in September, October, Payton said. You know why he ain't stressed? He got five years of $100 million. He got four more years of $80 million.

So what's there to be stressed about? I'm going to get my money and lose a draw. Yeah, that too. But of course, he better be stressed. He better be stressed the way you just sent Russell Wilson down to Pittsburgh. The way y'all cut the lease very short without allowing him a third year

to evolve with the offense. You didn't like Russell Wilson, but now all of a sudden you don't have a quarterback and you understand this is a quarterback league. You had Drew Brees in New Orleans. You understand how important the quarterback position is for your offense to go.

But you're not stressed? Shit me. Boy, you stressed? You stressed? Who's the quarterback for the Denver Broncos right now? They got Jared Stidham. And they got, who did they, they got somebody. The Stidham? I thought, who did they, they got somebody. This Stidham?

I thought they had somebody else on there. They got one other guy, but he not good. Jared Stidham not good either. That's not. Because if he's good, he still. That's not. Because remember, he's supposed to be the guy that replaced Ben DiNucci. Oh, Ben DiNucci.

Hey, babe. Goddamn Ben DiNucci. That's my boy.ucci. Hey, babe. Goddamn Ben DiNucci. That's my boy. I remember Ben. Boy, good dude there. Good dude. Good and terrible. Good dude.

But listen. Oh, he stressed because when them bulls started ringing out at Mile High Stadium, week one, week two, and any other week after that

because you don't have a quarterback and the fans grow frustrated. What do you think will happen? Hell, I'm going frustrated, too. What do you think will happen? And you got ownership that really doesn't have a football background. They have a background in business.

I know they want to win. And, you know, the way they think you can win as they do in business is you just throw money out there. That's not the way it works. No. It takes time. And before you take time, not only with time, you need a goddamn quarterback to build a team around. And then you go from there. They don't have that. You let one walk because you didn't have the goddamn patience. But that neither here nor there. But he's worried. He's worried.

Well, you need to go to a hospital if you want patience. They filled with patience. In pro sports, there ain't no patience. I don't know the hell you talking about. That was a good one. That was a good one. I don't know the hell you talking about. Ocho, Shohei Otani addresses gambling scandal, and the NBA opens an investigation into Jonte Porter.

On Monday afternoon at the Dodger Stadium, Shohei Otani, accompanied by a new interpreter, read a statement in which he denied betting on baseball or any other sport, asking anyone to do so on his behalf. He also said his former interpreter placed bets without Otani's knowledge, stole money from his account, failed to communicate to Otani that members of the media

were inquired about the wire transfer and falsely told a representative for Otani Otani had paid off his debt. Otani added that he's beyond shocked and they're assisting in the ongoing investigation and that he would let his lawyers handle matters from here on out. He did not take any questions oh look two-part question and now rafters jonte porter is subject to an nba gambling

investigation out versus the net at issue are prop bets involving porters from games from january 26 to march 20th in a game januaryth against the Clippers, there was increased betting interest on the under for Porter's props. That evening, Porter played just four minutes before leaving the game because of what the Raptors said was an aggravation of an eye injury that he had suffered four days earlier.

The next day, as part of the daily report, the user on the betting results, DraftKings Sportsbook, stated that under Porter's three-pointers was the next day a week. The next day, as a part of a daily report to the users on the betting site, DraftKings Sportsbook stated that under Porter's three-pointers was the biggest money winners for bettors in any NBA player prop bets from the game that evening.

Porter played 19 minutes two days later, scored 12 points with seven rebounds and three assists on March 20th against the Sacramento Kings. Porter played just three minutes before exiting, but Raptors said it was an illness and did not return. He did not score, attempted to miss one shot, and had two rebounds. Sportsbooks had his over-under set at seven and a half points, and had two rebounds sportsbooks had his over under set at seven and a half point 5.5 rebounds the next day draft kings reported an immediate release

porter prop bets were number one moneymaker for an nba for that night in the nba oh joe i know you don't really gamble like that but i used to gamble a little bit. Right, right. I used to gamble a lot. Right. If you go to the casino and you're playing cards. Right. And they think you're counting the cards, they throw your ass out. Remember how I told you, Ocho? They're not building those casinos with winner's money. They're building casinos with loser's money. Right, right, right.

They don't like to lose now all of a sudden the under on you is made the better the most money of any game on prop bets the night one night you leave early the next night a month a couple of days later you leave early again and all the money on the prop bet happen to be on you huh i wonder I wonder what DraftKings thinking. Like, well, damn. Either we must be the unluckiest or these guys can't scale the prop bet for us. Hey, NBA, check this out.

On the prop bets, when we put these things on Jontae Porter, you know what's happening? He leaving the game early and we losing our you on Jontae Porter. You know what's happening? He's leaving the game early and we losing our you-know-what. Let us get in on it. Let's see what's going on.

Wait, so is he betting on himself in this situation? He might not be betting, but he might be telling other people. Remember what I told you. You can't bet on yourself in pro sports. Ah, so he's telling other people and he's taking a cut. He's taking a percentage of what?

That looks suspicious. Right. I'm not saying he's doing that, but it looks suspicious to the gambling site. Right. That you play at X amount of minutes and you always take it. And everybody is on your bet. They're going under. And they're hitting this thing every time. But I'm confused. If he only gets

the same amount of minutes. He's not. Remember, he's leaving the game early. How can he leave the game early? I thought the coach had to shut you out. He played four minutes. He played nine minutes. What you mean? How? Is he really getting hurt?

All I'm saying is that they're saying when we set the prop bet He played nine minutes. What you mean, how? Is he really getting hurt? Is he really getting hurt? All I'm saying is that they're saying when we set the prop bet on him, a number of points and rebounds, they're betting on him and they're always going under. And every night, that's the biggest winner, his prop. Damn, so he playing crazy, huh? He must not be one of the big 120 million dollar players then okay okay okay god damn buddy do you think you can get away with this old show do you know the same way those guys remember those guys

having those prop bets in detroit and calley? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know they want to keep that relationship with the NFL? Yeah. They want to keep these relationships with these sports teams. Right. You actually think they about to let you come in there and win? First of all, like for Calvin Ridley, I still don't understand what Calvin Ridley was thinking. I make $11 million and I'm betting $50.

I'm betting $50. Yeah. Hey, Ocho, how about I do this, Ocho? I'm betting $50. I'm betting $50. Yeah. Hey, Ocho, how about I do this, Ocho? I'm going to give you a chance. I'm going to give you $20. You got $10 million. I'm going to let you risk it all to win $100. Shit me.

I thought it was going to be the other way around. They're hustling backwards. Like my grandfather used to tell me, boy, you're selling your money. He had to be. I don't get this. But, bro, you don't think that's suspicious? At least, if he just stayed in the game,

they probably wouldn't have thought anything. But it just so happened those nights on the under, the most money was made by people betting the under. He had the yin-yang twins getting low, getting low. Yeah, he tripping. He tripping. Obviously, I mean,

I hear what you're saying. I'm picking up what you're putting down, but I don't quite understand it because I don't gamble. I got somewhat of a sense. I'll tell you what, this is how it is. Okay, the over-under is Ocho Cinco

to have 6.5 catches. Ocho Cinco played the first three minutes of the ball game, and he's out. Now, they done bet about $500 to $1 million that Ocho Cinco going to go under the 6.5 catches. Okay, boom, one time. Okay, they got another bet. Ocho Cinco to have 7.5 catches.

Right. Ocho Cinco played five minutes and a half catches. Right. Ocho Cinco played five minutes. He out of the game. And the most money on the unders that day on Sunday was Ocho Cinco under both times. Okay. Now we talking. Now you put in the football terminology. Now I get where you going.

I get where you going there. All right. I got you. I got you. I got you. They used to see an Ocho. They used to see an Ochoa playing 45%, 50, 60 snaps. Yeah, that's me. Now all of a sudden Ochoa playing 12 snaps.

No, that ain't me. That ain't me. That ain't me. Don't you know all the homework these people do? Studying. Right. What that defense is, what you do, your run pass, what they good at, red zone, all that stuff. They got people studying it.

Right. That's also why they released the injury report. Because what if they didn't release the injury report and the trainer or the trainer's wife or the trainer's kid. Hey, you know Ocho ain't playing today. Woo. Hey, give me such and such and the under. Hmm.

That's too much. That's too much. God damn, that's too much, man. For those of you in the chat that gamble, that understand all this, the over, the under, the spread, the point,

the money line and all that stuff. Yes. Man, God bless y'all, man. I don't see how y'all do it, man. Hey, Unc, I lose $200. I lose $200.

You ain't finna see me no more. That goddamn Real? Oh, my God. Real gonna get her money back. What? That goddamn blackjack table? At that blackjack table? Man, I don't be knowing

what she's talking about. She be doing like this and then she do like that or man, what you doing? She do like this, she sit here though. Listen, all I know is she trying to beat the dealer.

I know it's 21 and she understands the game. Closer to 21 without going over. Man, listen, we was in Vegas for Super Bowl and I sat there and watched that lady play goddamn blackjack for two hours. And man, you ain't spending my motherfucking money. She's spending her own money, Unc, two hours.

I had my cigar and my coffee and I'm looking at the time and I'm tweeting. I'm like, she really liked that. And then I don't want to be rude, because that's not my place. Because I don't gamble, so I don't really understand those that like to do it. I don't want to infiltrate that space and overstep my boundary. That's something you like to do. Well, you know what? It's cool. Long as it ain't got nothing to do with me and you ain't spending none of my money. Because I want to be in control.

If I lose something, I want to be the one to lose it. I don't want to put it in the hand of nobody else and I'd be like, damn, now it's gone. But here's the thing though, Ocho. You say $20.

What if 10,000 people betting $20 on the under? What if 50,000 people betting $20 on the under? Now you see how that $20 adds up because you're not the only one. So what if somebody say, hey, man, oh really? I would bet

$5,000 on the under. $5,000? $5,000? What if you get $5,000 on the under and you hit, what you get back? It all depends on what it is. You might get

I mean considering who it is, you might get $6,500 $7,500 $8,500 Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, but hold on. What if

a thousand people hit? Are you... Because you're not the only one betting that. So, that means the casino got to pay out all them people that hit. Got to pay out all of that. And remember, they don't build casinos with winner's money. They build casinos with loser's money. They like winning.

There's a reason why. When the last time you saw a clock on the wall at a hotel, at a casino, they want you to lose track of time. Right.

And you notice why it's hard for you to get drowsy? They keep pumping that fresh oxygen in there. Ooh, man, I ain't getting tired at all. And before you know it,

you talk about, hey, you talk about two hours. Real didn't realize it was two hours. It felt like it was 20, 30 minutes to her. Listen, I had to say something. I had to. And you know who was sitting with her for one hour? Goddamn nigga, Dougie.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, man, what the, man, what is y'all doing? Man, Dougie left. And I'm thinking, when Doug what the, man, what is y'all doing? Man, Dougie left. And I'm thinking, when Doug get up, okay, that would be her cue. Okay, let me get up. Hell, she stayed there another hour and 15 minutes. Mm-hmm.

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