Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Giants RELEASE Odell Beckham Jr. + Patriots in a DOWNFALL? + Robert Saleh SPEAKS on Cam Ward’s PERFORMANCE + Derrick Henry REFLECT on TIME With Titans
Episode Date: October 1, 2026Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Giants releasing OBJ, Patriots unfolding, Robert Saleh on Cam Ward and Derrick Henry reflects on time with Titans!... Download PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $150 instantly in Lineups if you win your first $5 Lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP 00:00 - Introduction04:20 - Giants have released Odell Beckham Jr.26:50 - With the Patriots off to a rough 1-2 start, drama is unfolding in Foxborough46:22 - Robert Saleh: Cam Ward has 'some PTSD' from sacks in rookie season56:56 - Derrick Henry reflects on departure from Titans (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The New York Giants guys have released Odell Beckham Jr.
wide receiver Braxton Barrios was elevated from the practice squad
and signed to the 53-man roster.
OBJ only played 19 snaps in the last three games
and did not record a single catch.
John Harbaugh, his coach, spoke on the decision,
saying, we just wasn't getting enough.
It just wasn't working for us.
Like I told him, I wanted to be able to get more.
I wanted to be able to do more.
Get him on the field more.
For whatever reason, we weren't able to do that.
Put it on us.
We weren't able to get it done.
The question that I have for both of you guys,
do you think OBJ gets another chance
or was this his last best opportunity
to play receiver in the National Football League?
Listen, Uncun Joe, I've said it all the time.
Obviously, when you get to a certain age,
they weed you out.
They weed you out the opportunity.
They weed you out the system.
We saw on the preseason that OBJ is very well incapable of getting open.
He's very well capable of being a part of that offense in some capacity,
no matter how small it is.
He still had that special quality.
He still has that it factor, even though he's been injured, you know, a few times.
I respect the receivers that they do have there, Anka, Joe.
I respect them tremendously.
But there's a certain cashier, there's a certain veteran presence,
yet they don't have that O'Dell has that he brings to that team.
You know, then the, the, the, the, the,
comments by hardball, like, come on.
We couldn't find ways we wanted to get you on the field a little bit more, but we couldn't
be. Yes, you can. When you want to.
Right. Is that out there?
Yeah. When you want to, you just do as a head coach.
You know, I'm not sure why you even brought him in. I'm not sure why he allowed him to,
to make the 53-man roster. And I understand, you know, it's kind of tough because
you bring back some Braxton Barrios up and obviously need numbers.
You need numbers. And so, you know, the odd man out is, O'Dell being that
Braxton Barrios is probably going to participate.
in special teams.
Pun and kick return, probably.
They need that roster spot that O'Dell is taken up.
I mean, it sucks for him, but his services can be useful elsewhere.
It can be useful elsewhere.
I can see maybe the Rams, you know, might call, and he'd get an opportunity there again,
but he can still play this game that we love and cherish knowing as football.
Yeah, what you think?
I think it's unfortunate for O'Dell, Ocho, because, you know, he has so much good history with the Giants.
and I'm sure he wanted to end it that way.
You know what I mean?
He wanted to go back to New York, have a pretty good season,
whatever it may look like in his point of view.
But damn, I thought him making a 53 man roster,
I thought he was going to be locked in.
So for him not to be able to get that opportunity,
and when you watch him in the games in the preseason
and in the games that he had played,
bro, they're not going to draw up many opportunities
for you to be successful, man.
You know why?
Because how are they going to justify, you know,
getting rid of him if he goes out there and ball out.
That's my only thing, but it's unfortunate for him.
I don't know.
I don't know if he'll get another opportunity, bro.
He's a guy who looks like he worked hard.
He looks like he came in camp in great shape.
Ellie, look good out there to me, but, you know, we'll see, I guess.
You know, Ocho, you, uh, Joe, before you got on, Ocho and I used to talk about this all
the time.
I say, bro, once you start bouncing around, they look at you as a journeyman.
The same thing with D.
I told Ocho, this about D.
I said, he's never going to be the same player.
I say they'll give you one chance.
Okay, he started at Houston, then he goes to the Cardinals.
But then he leaves the Cardinals and goes where, goes to Tennessee.
Then he goes to Kansas City.
And then he goes to the Ravens.
Once you start bouncing around, they're not going to put you in that situation for you to succeed.
No.
I don't know why.
And I'm scratching my head too, Ocho and Joe, I'm like, well, why bringing me in?
If you're not going to use me, don't bring me in here and have.
me looking out, oh, man, Odell got released again.
You didn't even give me a chance.
No.
One target, I played 18, 19 snaps.
I don't know what you expect me to do with that.
I mean, and I'm not saying he's not a JSCN.
Now he's not a chase.
He's not a top tier receiver.
But I do think he can contribute if given the opportunity.
But I'm not surprised that they didn't put him,
they didn't put him in a position where he could succeed
because they don't view him as that.
Yeah.
And what, it's like anything.
Once you view something is not being useful, what do you do with it?
You disregard it.
Yeah.
You discard it.
You said it just like, like, I'm good with this.
No matter what it is, if you don't feel it has use or value, you get rid of it.
They didn't feel Odell gave them it.
And like you said, barrios can play special teams.
Remember, that's going to be a determining factor.
We only get so many spots on Sundays, guys.
Yeah.
who's the guy that can play multiple positions.
Odell didn't play special teams.
Odell is not a returner.
So now I got a, okay, I got a guard,
but he can be a swing tackle.
I got a guard that can also play tip center.
I got a tackle that can play left or right.
See, I can do multiple things.
OBJ can only play wide receiver,
and they weren't using him to do that.
So I'm not surprised by this move,
considering what am I supposed to do
getting six snaps a game, won't you?
The likelihood of I'm getting six snaps,
excuse me, six snaps a game,
and you're going to give me one to two, three targets.
You're not going to give me no three targets
on those six snaps.
You're not.
You're not even getting those targets.
You're probably the third or fourth option anyway.
Thank you.
And the first second option,
it's probably going to be where the ball goes.
I mean, I hate it.
I hate it for him,
especially for him to work as hard as he has,
to come back from all of his injuries,
to still want to play football,
to still want to finish,
off, you know, he didn't dream of playing and Woody started with the Giants.
You know, he was there for seven years and he was phenomenal.
He was phenomenal.
He was phenomenal.
He had one of the best rookie seasons, actually the best four or five year stretches, you know,
as a player with the Giants, hell, the NFL in January, in general, I would have loved
for him to finish there with a chance to be productive, you know?
Let him finish out the season.
Let him be productive.
Obviously, there's some, there's some questions that still need answered at the receiver
position.
I'm not sure of Malik neighbors is all the way healthy.
As if yet, he had a shoulder problem the last time I saw him play.
So I'm not sure.
Maybe they want to go young.
You know, at some point, teens do move on, Uncle Joe.
At some point, they do.
But I just know if you use him in the right capacity, you know, he can still be productive.
That's all.
It sucks.
I kind of see where you go on, Ocho.
For me, I feel.
feel like them getting rid of OBJ, you know, they'll get somebody else,
them 17, 18, 19 snaps with only one or two targets.
They'll get it to a young cat who ain't, who ain't going to mind, you know,
who ain't, who ain't the media darling?
You know, OBJ is a media darling, bro.
He's going to be in the media of them every day.
They're going to interview him.
They're going to know what's going on.
How he doing?
What about his hair, his cleats?
You feel what I'm saying?
It's different.
And I think the Giants probably going on throughout the rest of the season,
didn't want to have to deal with that, bro.
That was going to be a lie.
Because y'all know OBJ ain't going to be cool with what's going on right now.
You can tell.
It's hard.
He speaks about it.
Oh, yeah.
Once you become that guy, it's hard to be a guy.
Yeah.
Hey.
Hey, you learn real quick, I learned real quick.
When I was over there down in Boston, huh?
You hear me?
Yeah.
Joe, I learned real fast.
And nobody had to explain it to me.
I understood it.
They didn't have to explain it to me.
So, I mean, Odell would have had to understand that.
where he is right now in his career.
I think that's probably not what he wanted.
He wanted the opportunities as if, you know, he was still O'Dell of young.
And I know how hard he worked.
I know how hard he worked.
I've seen him in the preseason.
I've seen him slicing and dicing.
Still getting open.
Still creating separation.
Still able to make those plays that he made once in the past.
Maybe not the same O'Dell, you know, he once was, but he's still a viable option.
He's still a viable target.
And I was hoping they were given the opportunity to showcase that.
And I mean, hell, you know how the NFL is.
Hey, boy, it's a nasty business, boy.
It's happened to all of us.
Yeah, Julio Jones, when Julio was in Atlanta.
Yes.
Left Atlanta.
Did you go to Tennessee first?
He went to Tennessee.
They went to Tampa, he went to Philly, Tampa, went a couple of places.
And you put certain individuals that have always had that is factor, huh?
You know, you take the opportunities away from, of course they look just like a guy, Joe.
There ain't nothing wrong with certain individuals.
they can still play the game.
But you got to be able to...
Go ahead, Joe.
You got to be able to adapt, though.
Okay, Ocho.
You know, it take me back to, I remember,
you remember how AI dominated so much, bro,
and then when he got traded to, like, Memphis
and then Detroit Pistons, he won the same.
It's hard to adapt in those situations
when everything is geared around you.
You feel what I'm saying?
As much as we love them, you know,
it's just a different situation, bro.
And I'm sure OBJ wasn't thinking
coming into this situation.
that, you know, he just thought he was going to get more opportunities at the end of the day.
He wanted to go out and style.
Y'all know OBJ, bro. Come on.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
When you're a lesser tier player, you get more opportunity than a historically great player.
You know why, Ocho?
Let me tell you why it is.
Because everybody expects OBJ to be what he once was in New York the first time.
He's never going to be that.
And so people say, well, he's watched.
If you compare him to what he once was, sure.
But he was never going to be.
be that because he was never going to get the opportunity that he got to be they didn't give
Julio the opportunities and then Julio the injury bug started biting Julio he couldn't stay healthy
but a combination of couldn't stay healthy and I'm not getting the same opportunities well you can't
expect me to have 100 catches and 13 14100 yards with eight nine touchdown go chof when you take me
from 150 targets you take me down to 85.
You just 85 targets ain't no way I can get 100 catches.
Because you short me 15 targets,
even if I caught everything you threw my way.
So now people don't look at it like that.
Well, all they see is OBJ.
They see Beckham.
They see 13.
I want to see the one had to catch it.
I want to see the acrobatic stuff.
I want to see the moonwalk.
Yeah.
Well, they're not giving him opportunities like that.
Yeah.
And sometimes, sometimes they say love is like an Eclare.
It can't be reheated.
Sometimes you can't go home again.
Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Love is like a what.
Let me put this in my notes.
A Declare.
Like the D.
Eclare like the donut declare?
Yeah, yeah.
Once it goes cold, Joe, it can't be reheated.
You got to get that thing hot.
Yeah.
Sometimes Dorothy said, and everybody started to believe,
there's no place like home.
Hello.
Sometimes you can't go home.
I know OBJ wanted to go back to where it started,
where it all started,
and maybe that was the only one that was going to give him an opportunity.
But unless you put him in the situation,
it's the same thing as Russell Westbrook.
Russell was never going to be the player he wasn't OKC
unless you put him in that same environment.
Right.
If you say, okay, Russ, you're the focal point.
Yeah, he can get you a triple.
double yeah because he gonna play just that hard but when you diminish his role and you play
him instead of him playing 38 to 40 minutes joe you know not all of a sudden he playing 28 to 30
minutes he's not gonna be the same player right obj was never gonna be the same player because he
wasn't gonna get the same opportunities and and the fans don't see that oh joe you know people that's
why they ask you man man what happened to you they didn't think man look at all what all the weapons that they
I was Johnny Gill.
I came to New Edition.
They had been there.
They bought up in Roxbury.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Man, they didn't want to hear.
Man, they didn't give me the same opportunity
that I had in Cincinnati.
I didn't have the rapport with Brady
that I had with Carson.
The offense wasn't, I was the first option.
I was the third.
Sometimes I was fourth option.
Yeah.
So how can you expect me to give you same
production when I'm three I'm three pegs lower on the wrong than I was in
Cincinnati yeah not possible it is what it is I've been to we've all been
there oh yeah all been the guy all of a sudden we're not the guy but people still
see Johnson on the back of the jersey in football and basketball they saw sharp
and it's like bro I damn but instead of me getting the opportunity rod getting them
Yeah.
I ain't got no problem with that.
Just give me a couple of passes.
Hey, just keep me happy a little bit.
Right, right, right.
Hey, let me touch the pier skin a little bit.
That's all.
But the thing is that what I've always,
when I was good at guys, I didn't press.
Even though I knew I wasn't getting opportunities.
Man, I was like, bro, this ain't up,
but a five-yard route.
Ain't no sense of me dropping it
because I'm trying to get up out of Dodge
and try to turn into a 50-yard touchdown.
because you have a tendency to do that because you know your opportunity is a few and far
between yes uh and you try to make every opportunity you try to make every opportunity
to go you start pressing you start pressing and when you start pressing it get worse
whoa whoa whoa no yeah it's just like hey it's just like your basketball I'm telling you
bro it's the same way guys come in trying to catch a rhythm game going good trying to get
involving you start pressing or like we talked about the other night guys being in a contract
year. Yeah, yeah. Take a different type of individual to be able to go out there and perform at a
high level and not press knowing that you know, yeah, the next five, 10 years is on the line.
You feel me? Yeah. But you know what, Joe, I was always one of those guys. I was making the same
amount of money whether you threw me 10 balls or you threw me one. Now your chances greatly
your odds of winning greatly increased when I got those 10 balls.
Right, right, right.
But I ain't open my mouth because I'm going to make sure my check.
I ain't giving nobody back.
I don't want you talking about you got conduct detrimental to the team.
Nah, I'm gonna sit my black ass right here, collect them checks and I ain't gonna say nothing.
Y'all know, y'all saw me all week and practice cooking.
I'm cooking.
I just need opportunities.
The opportunity wasn't there.
Hey, a Rod, when I left and came.
came back, Rob was the guy. Rod had gone to Pro Bowes. Rod had been on all pro.
Yeah, back to back, 100 catch seasons. What, what I'm supposed to do?
It's tough, no. Hey, it's tough. Yeah, my bad, Joe.
No, go ahead, Joe.
I'm going to say, it's the nature of the business. It sucks once you get on the back end.
It sucks once you hit a certain age, especially if you don't play quarterback. I mean, it just
sucks. And it's nature of the business. And it's been that way for a very long time.
And sometimes the casual fan doesn't quite understand it,
but those who are football enthusiasts,
those who are basketball enthusiasts,
they understand the nature of the business and how it works.
But sometimes, though, you know, you got to wait your turn.
Okay, Ocho, everybody don't get handed the ball to them right
when they come into the league, whether it's football or basketball.
Sometimes, here, you've got to grind two, three years, bro,
before an opportunity present itself.
Yes.
You just got to make sure you're ready when that opportunity presents itself.
You feel what I'm saying?
And I think as a as a professional, that's one of the hardest things to do is to stay in shape, keep your mind right, and stay engaged, bro, when you ain't really getting the reps.
You know what I think the thing is what separates and probably Joe, you went to, went through it also is because of how we started.
We weren't the guys when we started.
So we didn't come in, you didn't come in being able to get 20, 22 shots tonight.
Right, right, right.
I didn't come in being able to get 10, 11 targets a game.
Right.
So when they reduce my, I had been here before.
Yeah.
This was an unfamiliar territory.
Oh, Cho, when you come in like Odell came in?
Yeah.
And you had the first three, four years like he had?
Crazy.
And then all of a sudden, it hit a little different.
Boy, it's hard.
It hit a little different.
Your parents, all your life, your parents have been giving you $1,000 a month,
a $1,000 allowance.
They cut your lines to $50.
Let's see how you behave.
Exactly.
So you go from getting your whole career, Ocho,
you don't got 10, 11, 12 targets a game.
You already know.
Or even on a bad day, I'm going to get eight targets.
A great day, I might get 12, 13.
Yeah.
You go from that to getting no targets?
That's tough, boy.
Yeah.
I already know it.
Because, hey, think about it.
OBJ, man, he wanted this storybook ending.
Okay, Ocho.
Yes.
The boy had that went back to that blonde because it took him back.
Took him back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That man wasn't playing, man.
He was trying to go out there and do something.
Yeah.
Yeah, the folk cut that man.
Oh, man.
And I don't like Harbaugh comments either.
They couldn't find, they couldn't find.
Yeah, just say it didn't work out and just keep it moving.
Don't say we wanted to get it more involved.
We just couldn't know how.
we didn't know how we could.
Yolkin figured out.
Hey, hey, hold on.
Somebody from OBJ's team must have been on their ass about something.
That might have been it.
Wonder why he wasn't planned?
Yeah, why he wasn't playing?
You know what?
I only want to speculate that OBJ had a conversation with somebody
because I don't know.
All we know is this.
They released him.
Based on what we've seen from him,
I don't think we're surprised.
The man had one target in three games.
Who's surprised by that?
I don't know he's on a minimums contract,
but if I need a roster spot,
guess who I'm going to get that roster spot from?
Somebody that I'm not using.
Yeah, he's an odd man out.
He's an odd man out.
I just don't understand with the questions that are still there,
even if you want to go young,
to me, I would think you would still need that better in presence.
You still need that reliable target,
especially with being up in the air,
with Malik coming off ACL, now a shoulder injury,
I just, can I really rely on all the young bulls in there
if I'm really, really serious about being consistent
in actually trying to win games?
It's just hard.
When everybody really, it's hard when this team moves on,
this team moves on and this team moves on.
And you're older.
If you're young, Ocho, you know, you're like,
okay, a James Harrison got cut,
goes to Baltimore, gets cut, comes back,
gets cut, goes back to Pittsburgh, gets cut,
gets cuts again, but he's 22, 23.
Yeah.
You're 30, 31.
You're not going to get, keep getting cut like that.
They're going to get you about to lead.
Yeah.
I hate that.
I hate how they weed you out, man.
I hate it.
Yes.
You never get to leave on your own terms.
Very seldom, Uncle Joe.
Do you get to leave on your own terms and write your own storybook ending?
Very seldom.
There's only a few.
It's only a handful.
Yeah.
But guess what?
If they play long enough, they get cut too.
because the old saying the medicine says if we live long enough,
we'll die of something that's other than natural causes.
Some disease, if you live long enough.
Yes, sir.
You play long enough.
They'll get you up out of there.
I don't give them how long you play.
I don't care how great you were.
It's tired.
Come on.
Yeah.
You're absolutely right.
You get that knock at that dough.
For sure.
Or what?
They're going to have somebody ready to replace you.
Quick.
Absolutely.
And they've been thinking about it.
Like, boy, the first time we see a.
little slippage.
They moving on.
That's why I'm saying, enjoy it while you can,
make as much money as you can, create as many memories as you can.
Hello.
That's what sports are about.
Money and memories.
The objective is to try to get as much as both as you possibly can.
Hello.
Because it's going to end.
Yeah.
Whether you want it to or not,
everybody doesn't get a lawyer or doctor or somebody,
know, you get a 20, there have been very few 20 players that played 20 years that weren't
quarterbacks and kickers.
Yep.
You get Jackie Slater as an offensive lineman.
You get a Jerry Rice at the wire receiver.
You get Jim Marshall.
But other than that, it's basically quarterbacks and kickers.
Yeah.
Mm.
That's why I tell the guys, hey, give it all you got why you can.
Because it's going to come to an end now.
Yeah.
Whether you want it to or not.
And it doesn't matter if you think.
you got more years in you.
It only matters if one of those 32 teams
think you can contribute or help them.
Hello.
Hello.
That phone is going to stop bringing.
Man, I'm in great shape.
Man, I can still.
Shoot.
I feel like I can go out there right now, Joe.
You feel me?
Yeah.
Devil is a lie.
You can't go out there and take them his boy.
You see how the boy that dude hit you like he hit Jaila Hurts.
Now I just own your uncle in ISO.
Hey.
See, I'm tripping.
I would have been here.
I would have been hit.
Put that, what you'd be saying?
Put that blinker.
Man, that blinker, I would have been making a U-turn.
They didn't plan around.
No, no, da, nah.
You don't, you don't chance it like that.
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With the Patriots off to a rough start, one and two, the drama is unfolding.
Here's Mike Brable denying rumors of friction between him and Drake May.
He had heard that there is an issue between you and Drake May.
Are there any issues you heard of him?
That's a good question for him.
Unnamed sources?
Yep, my name sources.
Okay.
Let me just tell you why I'm here.
I'm here because Drake was the quarterback.
Believe it or not, I had choices to where I wanted to coach.
I wanted to coach here because Drake was the quarterback.
So, you know, I don't have really much other to add to that about, you know,
a comment that from an unnamed source.
But I'll just tell you what I've told numerous people if they want to ask me while I'm here.
Hey, I think people, reporters should already know that at times, you know,
quarterbacks and coaches don't see the eye-to-eye.
For sure.
I'm sure in basketball when it comes to basketball, sometimes the players on the court,
don't see eye to eye with the coach.
Now, what you do hope and what you do want is the two people that always have to be in line
and the person that's on the field that has to be an extension of the coach is your quarterback.
But at times, there is friction.
Hell, I've seen it.
I've seen it with my own eyes.
No, for myself.
In that same place, that same winning organization, because of the expectation that they
create for themselves, at times, it's like this.
Yeah.
But it only created greatness and helped me better understand why they always always, you know,
always won consistently time and time again.
Now, right now they're one and two.
There's some frustration.
Drake May hasn't played well.
Maybe Mike Brable,
Mike Brable, being the way he coaches, the way he is,
maybe it might have been a little harsh on him.
You know, you don't know because we're not in the building,
but whatever it is they have going on,
they got to get it together.
Because Mike Ravel ain't going nowhere,
and Drake May ain't going nowhere.
Right.
I do believe, I do believe Braves,
when you're that level of coach,
he had opportunities, he had other suitors.
if you've got suitors,
me personally,
who has the best quarterback?
Bingo.
Because that's going to be for me
to stay for an extended
period of time. Because without that,
I'll give damn how great I am at X's and O's and strategy
and being a CEO and managing people.
Without a quarterback, you're getting
your ass handed to you and you're getting
your pink slip.
Yeah, every time. They're going to
give you your walking papers.
He's looking at it like, hey,
I got a second year quarterback. That means I can
have him for a potential long period of time.
I bring somebody, hey,
Josh McDaniels, I've seen him
work miracles with a lot of quarterbacks.
I saw what he did with Brady. Sit Brady
aside. I could have coached Brady.
Sit Brady aside. But we saw what he did
with Matt Castle. We saw what he did with
Jimmy Garapolo. We saw what he did with
Jacobi Bresset. We saw what he did with
Matt Jones. So his ability
to coach there,
there in New England. He's
been sauce every other place he's ever been
but there he's been spectacular.
Yeah.
So I don't have a problem with that.
And there should be, bro, we're not winning.
Because you know why we're not winning?
Because Drake, May, you're playing horrible.
Yeah.
I'm not fit to pat you on the back.
Too many times parents pat their kids on the back when the kid effing up.
And then there's a level of expectation that that's how the world's going to be.
The world's not going to be like that.
When you mess up, your ball's going to put foot in you and go put you out the dope.
Hey, boy, the world comes through, right?
Hello.
So I'm telling you now, Drake, May.
Bro, you're going to get cut and get me fired.
You got to play better.
Bro, look at these numbers.
He's completing 64% of his passes.
In three games, he's thrown for 585 yards, one touchdown, six interceptions.
With two fumbles.
What am I supposed to do with that?
We in week three, he got six interceptions?
Six interceptions?
And two fumbles.
Hey, I think the most glaring thing that we're looking at right now is the fact that they're just coming off playing the Super Bowl.
Yes.
So the expectations are there, obviously losing AJ Brown.
You know, obviously probably is number one.
But yeah, Ocho, he hadn't been playing well, bro.
So look, all these questions, they're going to come.
And when you're losing, y'all know when you're losing, bro.
It can tear the damn house down.
You hear me?
Yes.
So they got to stay locked in.
They got to get on one of core, bro.
They got to get on the same page.
plus a lot of people feel like
quarterback should be above reproach
if you're not playing well
you're not playing well
fans can see that
people might get on us because they say
oh y'all harsh you're not harsh on this one
well maybe there's not the same level of expectations
right
great may after coming up the Super Bowl
there was a level of expectation he was supposed
to play better his third year
he wasn't supposed to regress he was supposed to progress
progress must progress he's regressed he looked worse this year that he did in his rookie year
so it's only right that even if his coach is calling it out like son you got to play better
yeah in order for us to win you have to play better you continually putting us in harm's way by
playing bad is putting our defense out in the field more than they should have to play and i don't
care how great your defense is if you put them out on the field enough
they'll crack.
Yeah.
You know what else is weird too?
When Bill was there,
and there were any issues,
you ever notice?
You never heard a reporter say,
a source said something to Bill?
Nope.
Ever.
So, I mean, they got leaks.
They got cracks inside the locker room
because nobody should know
that there should be any issues going on.
Nobody should know.
Yeah.
Part of the Patriot way is everything was always kept in the house.
I might have only been there that one year,
and I understand they had some other problems
of other issues, you know, with the flake gate and spy gate and all that stuff.
But that year I was there, there weren't no problems.
Yeah.
You never hear stuff like this come out.
Well, we heard from anonymous source, unnamed source, that you and Tom don't get along.
Or you guys had a riff or you guys had, no.
Mm-mm.
But now all of a sudden, Brable's the coach, a new era, you know, is there now.
Now things that are going on in-house are getting leaked out of the house.
Yes, it's hard.
Because the more people know something, the greater chance it is to get out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Two people, two people can keep a secret.
One of them got to be dead.
Yeah.
So it's only one person.
The moment, because you never know, people pillar talk.
That's the number, that's the number of how things get out.
It's pillar talking, Joe.
Yeah, man.
You're right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really, really simple.
And this is what I like to tell you guys.
you can take work home,
but you can never take home to work.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
What was discussed at,
what was discussed at the practice facility,
it never came home with Jenna.
Hello.
Man, I don't know.
How you don't know, you was there.
Right.
Man, I must have been,
I must have been in the training room,
but maybe I was in the wake room when that happened.
Right.
Right.
I was right there in the thick of it.
And you need to get your ass off the phone all that gossiping.
Because when the rubber needs to meet the road,
they're going to put that off on somebody.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You're going to be that somebody because you got less tenure than the other wives
that's been girlfriends that's been here.
Stay out of that.
Well, they're going.
You're not going.
Hello, hello.
You don't want to get in that mess, man.
Not one time.
No, sir.
Not one time I dated anybody who did anything.
I don't know.
Everybody, everybody, everybody said they go, I don't care.
Yeah, that's law.
That's just how you keep confusion down, Joe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, you know what?
You're right, because I feel like that's law,
meaning like I ain't saying that our girlfriends or wives can't converse,
but look I don't know what he got going on when we get off the plane at two in the morning
you know what I don't want I don't want her calling you talking about has Joe made at home
hey man hey exactly thank you whoa whoa whoa hey we ain't in that you know what I'm saying
yeah I know exactly what you mean yeah man Joe that hey that sound yeah they say they say they
going out did they go out right
Hey, they be doing that, what?
Hey, Joe.
Yeah, yeah.
What you want me to say?
Yeah.
I want you to hang the damn phone up.
Hey, well, hey, that's tough.
That's how things get out.
Yeah, I haven't had a chance to experience that, but sounds interesting.
Oh, Joe, I had a teammate.
He got caught from his Uber history.
Yeah, his lady went through his Uber history
And was like, damn, at two in the morning
You got dropped off here, da-da, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's a cold game, no, boy.
Uber history?
Yeah, his Uber history.
So she went through, she took her time to go through,
you see, she was booking herself a ride somewhere
But she, he let her in his account
Because we had a game this day.
I never forget we had a game this day.
He was like he let her in his account
So she can book a ride to the airport.
Yeah, man, she went out through that man over history.
Yeah.
I never understood that, I'm in Joe.
What's that?
You know, when it comes to, obviously,
the greatest gift God is given to us as men, is women.
The greatest gift ever, you know?
But at times, I'm always curious.
Like, when you're happy, why do you go looking for stuff?
Huh?
Why?
I'm just curious, especially when things are going well,
why do you always look for something to be upset about?
if you're just truly happy.
I always thought about that.
Why do you go through phones?
I mean, everyone has this love or passion
for going through phones
and being sneaky when you're sleeping.
Why is that?
I'm just curious.
Because what are you looking for?
My grandma always said,
my grandma always said,
boy, if you go looking,
you're going to find exactly what you're looking for.
Guess what, Ocho?
Sometimes you go looking for something
and you ain't looking for that.
You ever been looking for one thing
and found another?
There it is.
Come on, now.
That's what you see.
Now you got your face cracked.
Now you're
Hey!
Oh, I can see.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't come now.
Hey, hey.
Hold on.
Time out.
How many times has a person went looking and didn't find none and didn't say
nothing?
You know what I mean?
Think about that too now.
Like, there's probably been time.
Yeah, that happens a lot, bro.
But you ain't going to never know.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I'm going for point.
Well, that's just a question I never had an answer.
I never had the opportunity to be able to ask on this type of platform, something like that.
I'm just curious, you know, based on y'all experiences, you know, why?
Do you want to be happy and you want to be right?
Do you want to be happy?
Do you want to be right?
You can't have both.
I think the thing is, Ocho, for me, I'm so routine oriented.
If I start and get gas, why are you late?
Because I go from point A to point B.
Right.
That's how I've always been like that.
So if I do any, I do deviate.
I can't go get me nothing to eat.
I can't go buy fast food.
I can't get nothing.
I can't go to the grocery store because if I'm five,
if I'm five minutes late,
anybody to date dating me could tell you,
oh, I know where he is.
Yeah.
What time is it?
Oh, he had the gym.
Yeah.
Oh, he is.
Oh, he at CV.
Because I do, I'm so, I'm so padded,
I'm so routine.
I like to do, I like to do all my stuff.
So I'll leave, leave work.
I would come home.
I would eat breakfast.
I would go lift.
I would go to Target, go to Whole Foods,
come back home.
That's my recycle.
If I didn't do that,
where you being?
Hey, you know, I like that.
I like that because you're routine.
What you like about that?
No, because, hey, Joe, I mean,
what I'm just said, the way he's routine,
I'm routine too, Joe.
People that don't even follow me.
If you follow me on Twitter,
just say, just for instance,
you follow me on Twitter, right?
And you've been following me long enough,
you can tell exactly where I am
based on the time of date.
Because my routine hadn't changed
for damn near 15 years.
It hasn't changed.
If I'm getting in the car
in the middle of the day
and I'm not at home,
I'm either at the cigar bar
and my Cuba spot.
If somebody wanted to find me
and do something bad to me,
they know exactly what to come.
Because nothing, nothing has changed.
Nothing has changed in my life.
I have the same old, boring, you know what routine.
Always.
And I'm more than the same spots every single day of the week.
Nothing changes.
Hey, I'm saying he'd get grilled.
If he go off, if he, if he go off road, I'm like, damn,
kind of feel like you on the surveillance a little bit, ain't it?
I, hey, like the guy's like, hey, Sean, we're going to grab something
that you want to go?
Nah, I have to put that request in at the beginning of the week.
Oh, you got to get permission to go where you want to go.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it ain't worth the argument.
So you're impressed.
It ain't worth the hassle.
I'm a peace of mind.
So if guys wanted to do something, I was like, okay, look, it's like, hey, man, Sharp,
you know, hey, we're going in this new spot called jimmies.
Yeah.
Hey, next Thursday, not this Thursday, next Thursday, the guys are going to jimmies.
Hmm.
I'm going to.
So you got to get you, hey, Joe, he's talking about you having to get a permission slip.
Well, hell, Uncle asked him permission, too.
Yeah, my, yeah, yeah.
But see, Joe, it keeps down confusion.
It keeps down in argument.
And so the thing, I don't like, because I'm not a confrontational person.
I'm not by nature.
Same.
But when you take it there, I ain't got no choice.
I ain't, I can't back down.
But, hey, it sounds like, hey, Joe, honestly, the way uncle, you know, he, he, he reporting in.
And it sounds like a PO.
It sounds like your parole officer to me.
Hey, I kind of, I understand where you're going, Ocho, but I get what uncle.
saying to you know what I mean like just just so it ain't no confusion now fellas I
ain't I ain't even going you know exactly exactly yeah because because he
already know her mind going to be wondering he only want to hear you want to
deal with that when he come home had to face that madness I know what you're
talking about huh hey man listen I think obviously to me it sounds like at times we
we as men especially in relationships because we always want to keep our spouse
whoever we're dealing with happy you know the happy wife happy life but in in a
it almost seems as if we lose a sense of self.
Is that at least we lose the sense of self in a sense
because everything is about appeasing that individual.
Yes.
And then it's like, well, hell, what about me?
Well, you can lose you.
You can absolutely lose yourself trying to appease and please someone else.
You absolutely can.
And at some point, Joe, you get fed up with it.
And then you start, you end up resenting, well, God damn, I'm sick of this.
I'm sick of reporting in.
I'm sick to have the, I just, it just.
I have, I did that too.
I'm like, hold on, wait a minute.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I got to.
Yeah.
Yeah, after a while.
The last person I really had to report to and I really didn't have to report to her was
granny. Oh.
And I just had a simple rule.
I didn't come in the house after midnight.
Even though my brother and I had paid the house off and we grown, it was a
respect level.
Yeah.
I ain't coming in my grandmother's house.
after 12.
Yeah.
Never have, never would.
Yeah.
But I was just like, hold on.
I got to tell you everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And in the beginning, it's cool, though.
Yeah, it's good.
But it didn't get to a point on you.
It's too much.
Yeah.
Hey, it's like a line at the circus.
Oh, we can have a good time.
But don't turn me up because I, hey, I can turn it to this beast.
I can turn it to this damn monster.
Hey, it ain't going to be.
It ain't gonna be pretty.
I promise you.
I promise you.
I don't want to jump through that ring with the fire.
I ain't gonna do it.
I'm gonna sit right here.
Yeah, I like it.
But you don't get all these other times.
I don't want to do it today.
Right.
Yeah, I like.
Yeah, I like it.
Listen, at the end of the day,
whoever we're dealing with,
we always want them happy.
We always want them at ease, you know, at peace.
Yeah.
But just over time, having to do the same thing
and having to reassure constantly.
Yeah, that's what.
That's what's hard.
That's what's hard.
Oh,
yeah, it becomes like,
like,
ah,
Lee, now, come on now.
This is a second job.
Oh, what?
This is a second job
reassuring somebody day after day.
Baby, you love,
yeah,
I love you.
Hey,
listen,
hey,
because,
because see,
a lot of times
in a relationship,
they judge their relationship
based on somebody else's relationship.
Oh,
you know,
They went to Cancun.
He just surprised her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got a surprise for you.
If you don't start messing with me,
they ain't,
hey, try and throw you hands.
Yeah.
But I didn't get into this relationship
to be compared to somebody else's relationship.
Come on, that.
Or what you did in a previous relationship.
Oh, man, my old boyfriend,
he got this, he got this yacht.
We pulled up to this dog.
They were- Oh, no, no, no, no.
If she doing all late on 10, she talks about an age, Joe.
No, oh, no.
Joe, I had to go.
I had to go, Joe.
Pulled up to a yacht.
And the doc can do what?
Hey, he had, they had breakfast.
They would do, hey, yeah.
I don't know if it was a yacht, but they pulled up somewhere.
And I was like, oh, he did all that.
I said, you left him for my bored ass?
Hey, that was the last time.
Yeah.
That would have been the last time we talked.
You go to talk about what you did with your ex.
That's the last time you ever going in for me again, man.
I don't want to hear that shit.
Joe.
What you said, Joe?
I don't want to hear that shit.
What you mean?
If you're talking about what?
I mean, what?
Get your ass.
Because, Joe, the thing is that I'm saying,
stop comparing your relationship to what your previous relationship
or what somebody else's relationship is.
Man, your home girl.
I don't know if we got this in here.
The Savannah James situation, we're going to talk about that,
Savannah James.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I got something like that.
Yeah.
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The Titans ranked 31st in total offense, 30th in scoring.
On Sunday, the Titans, where we had the Giants of the seven-yard lines,
24 seconds remaining when he dropped back the past.
He could have run for a touchdown, but instead, through an interception to Javon
Holland and 12-7 loss.
Coach Robert Salo was asked about Ward's continuous.
struggles after 20 career starts. Let's take a listen to what coach had to say.
You know what you see early in games at least and it's getting later and later in games too.
You see him comfortable in the pocket. You see him trusting the offensive line.
And then later in the game, you kind of see him kind of revert back to some old habits.
But I do think he's getting better in that regard. I think he's starting to really appreciate the
offensive line because I think they are doing a really good job protecting him.
And I think he's building that trust. You got to remember the
man was sacked however many times last year. So there's, I'm sure there's some PTSD there,
but, but he's getting better. He's trusting it. His footwork is, is lasting him longer into
games, if that makes sense. But, but yeah, from an accuracy standpoint,
um, uh, decision-making standpoint, everything starts with your feet at the quarterback position.
Hey, I understand it completely what he's saying. Obviously, I've seen breakdown in some of the
films, some of the all-22 film with, uh, with Cam Ward and some of the issues that I,
everyone has been griping about, missing a lot of passes.
And one thing I do like about him, Unk,
and what Coach just mentioned,
with Coach just mentioned,
Sala, about him, his comfortability and trusting the offensive line.
I've never seen a quarterback this young,
and only a second year,
had that type of composure when he dropped back and sits in the pocket.
Oh, yeah.
It almost looks like he's so relaxed and so composed, Unk,
it looks as if he's not even trying.
I'm talking about he'd just be sitting there chilling.
Like, what people bearing?
down trying to knock your head off. So I think he's on the right, on the right path to improving
and fixing some of the things that he needs to, and it all starts with him. Any time there's
any confusion or anything, any discussion of why the offense or why the team in general
isn't playing well offensively, it all starts with him, the quarterback. You have the ball
in your hands the most in Tennessee. And for you guys to have success offensively, you have
to be better. And, hey, and would you talk about Ocho?
with him being a number one pick, the number one pick,
hey, man, there's expectations, bro.
High through the roof.
You know, a very, very high.
So, you know, he got some work to do.
I like his calmness back there too, Ocho,
but sometimes his nonchalantness,
it kind of gets him in trouble.
Hey, Joe, that's crazy, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, get it.
I'm like, man, what the hell?
Yeah, and then now he got to turn it.
He got to go from zero to a hundred.
Right.
And, uh, that's pretty much.
where his mistakes had started to come from.
You know what I mean?
Because I think they do a decent job
in getting down the field.
When you're getting the red zone,
you've got to capitalize.
And he made some mistakes.
Obviously, you want to see him progress
and get better as the season goes on.
It's still early, man.
I think they still got, what they,
0.03?
0.04.
I want to ask you a question, guys.
Ocho, you think he was sack
or hit any more than Andrew Luck?
No.
Hold on.
What about, what about Derek Carr?
No, not Derek Carr.
David Carr.
David.
David got sack like 70-something times
his rookie year.
Damn.
But look at how many times
they hit Andrew Luck.
Oh, yeah.
In order for a quarterback
and he's going to have to remove this,
you've got to look down the gun barrel
and you can't flinch.
Once they find out you a flinch,
they come in.
Yeah.
They coming.
And all the good ones
have had to stare down the barrel
and fire downfield.
That's the only way you can get great.
And I get that.
But in this situation right here,
that might be some of the case.
He was outside of the pocket.
He had 24 seconds left in the game.
He had not one, but two timeouts.
There was no reason for him to throw that football.
Right.
Yeah.
I get being sacked a lot.
And sometimes it does something to you.
It speeds you up.
But in this situation, throw it out of bounds.
Live to see another day.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
He has to learn that.
That's what he's going to have to learn.
That's what young quarterbacks need to learn.
You turn it to ball over on first and second down.
And you got two timeouts.
Huh?
Fourth down.
Okay.
I'm going to buy as much time as I can.
I'm going to give somebody an opportunity to make a play for me.
But I can't turn the ball over, Ochoo, on second or third down.
I just can't.
Not on the seven yard line.
I've got to live to see another day.
He didn't lie.
You remember last year they asked him?
They asked him a question.
What did he say, Ocho?
He said, we asked.
He ain't lie.
They still cheat.
They got him some weapons, though.
He got weapons now here.
He just got to find the way to use them and get the most out of them.
Yeah.
But he got some weapons now.
Yeah, he do.
Hey, bro.
You have no more overall picks.
Expectations are through the roof.
Yes.
Yeah.
And they're not going to subside.
I don't care.
I love the fact that the day he's like, yeah, I got to be better.
It starts with me.
Everybody got to be better.
But it starts with me.
I got to be better.
And you do.
as Ocho said, hey, you got the ball every single time.
Every time.
It starts and stops with you.
I know one thing.
I love the way when he gets that ball and he, man,
take that, take that step, them steps.
Hey, it's like he, it's like he had the club or something, boy.
I'm talking about, chilling.
Hold on, Ocho.
You said it right.
Nonchalant.
Nonchalant, yeah, he'd be back there.
Joe, I'll talk about he.
He relaxed.
Like, it ain't nobody trying to knock his head off.
He's chilling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
I like his style.
Yeah, he got to figure it out, man.
He got a little, he got a little Patty Mahomes in him, too.
You know, he got a little patty Mahomes.
He'll try to get a, he got some talent, Uncle Ocho.
You know, we talk about those runs.
We talk about those runs that those guys make like they're going out of bounds
and they may get an extra three, four yards.
Yeah.
He got a little bit of that in him, too.
You know, I'd be seeing him out there trying to throw them little nose.
look some little side arm joints.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But there's a time and a place with those, Joe.
At the seven-yard line with 24 seconds and two timeouts
is not the time to do anything,
but to get your team and then so score a touchdown, we win.
We ain't got to do nothing.
We ain't got to kick the PAT because, hey, we're going to walk it off.
Yeah.
We're going to walk it off.
He's got to be better.
Me personally, I hate it playing with young quarterbacks
because in the meantime, why he's trying to get better,
we getting our ass kick.
So by the time he get better,
I might not even be there.
So what does that do for me?
I'm trying to win now.
But how many how many quarterbacks
coming to the league, bro?
And I'm talking about in the first two years,
they just, well, I mean, we've seen a couple.
Yeah, I think that you see,
you see Jane Daniels
and you see some of these other quarterbacks
coming to the league in their first year.
And that's the problem,
is that they've come into the league
at you see a Russell Wilson.
Yeah.
You see an Andrew luck.
You see an RG3.
You see the guys.
So now they're not giving you an opportunity.
It's too much money.
Not, Joe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I handed you 60 million.
Yeah.
And now guess what?
In three years,
I'm going to have to make a decision.
Do I give you another 300 million?
Mm-hmm.
I'm sorry, Joe.
Yep.
I'm going to have to smash these eggs to get these chickens.
I can't let them hatch.
Yeah.
Hey, you got to be the answer, Joe.
You got to be the answer.
I had you 60 million.
And then in three years,
I got to get to be the answer.
I gotta turn around, I gotta make a decision, Joe.
Do I hand you another 300 million with 200 million guaranteed?
Mm-hmm.
Damn, boy.
Shoot, A, T, Sala comes slash, slag me 150.
I'll go out there and play quarterback for the Titans.
Huh?
Huh?
Shee-he-ha-ha-ha-ha.
Hey.
But I think the thing is, he's gonna have to, he's gonna have to,
he's gonna have to get this thing right in the hurry.
Because ain't nobody coming to rescue the Titans.
Ain't nobody feeling sorry for the Titans.
He better quarterback, boy.
He's going through some growing pains, okay, Ocho.
Yeah.
He's going through.
And sometimes that's needed, bro.
You know, to make you lock in a little harder.
So, you know, I hope he get it going, bro.
I hope he get it going.
I like it.
You know, when I think about C.J. Stroud,
I think about Jane Daniels in their first years
and how good they were on.
And they had that sophomore slump.
in a sense.
Yeah.
So, you know,
the Cam Wars,
first year wasn't really that.
You know, this year, the start of this year,
it hasn't been, you know,
what we want or what we expect.
So there's really only one way to go from his point anyway.
There's only one way to go, Joe,
and it's improved.
What?
I got a question, though.
Are the Titans like the Browns?
They're just a bad and a horrible organization?
I mean, I'm asking.
I mean, how much, I mean, how much.
They had a good coach and they had a down year or two
and they got rid of Brable.
He was a better coach.
Yeah.
But at, at this point, it's really simple.
It's really simple.
Find the quarterback.
They got rid of Tannahill.
Tannenhill wasn't the answer.
They got Malik Willis.
He wasn't answered.
Willis.
He wasn't the answer.
Now they got Cam Ward.
Until you find the quarterback, I don't,
you're wasting time.
All that other stuff, all that other stuff doesn't matter.
Matter.
Maticured lawns, great head coaching, great facilities.
Without him, what you doing?
It's hard to find a good quarterback.
It's hard.
It is.
A generational one.
I mean, you find a decent.
Yeah, that's hard.
Yes.
Somebody that you say, you know what?
We got this guy for the next 10, 15 years.
Yeah, yeah.
That's hard.
That's hard.
It is.
Running back, Derek Henry spoke about facing Tennessee Titans for the first time since being let go in 2024.
It still feels like family there, so it's always love.
But it ain't going to be much love on Sunday, though.
Henry said the team shipped him out.
It was bittersweet.
I think I knew the writing was on the wall throughout the season, and they weren't ready to move on.
And they were ready to move on.
Excuse me.
Good things don't last forever.
So it was time for me to find a new home, and I knew what that home I wanted it to be.
and there it was.
Looking back at it.
Is your death kept Derek Henry?
No.
No.
Let that man go, bro.
Hell, they were horrible with him.
Okay, Ocho.
They ain't like they were, you know, no hell of a team.
Let their man go, man.
He got a great opportunity and a great chance
to really do something special this year.
You already know how they feel about running backs.
You know, they don't value as is.
As you get older,
you know, they don't want to pay you,
know what's you're getting paid.
You know, that's, that's one.
It was a business reason why they let him go.
We want to get,
we want to get these numbers off the books.
I think they bought in Tony Pollard after that,
if I'm not mistaken, right?
They did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, yeah, just, I mean,
you're from back.
Yeah, completely.
But think about it, Ocho.
Yeah.
They let Derek Henry go.
They traded A.J. Brown.
That's two of your best offensive weapons right there.
So what do you expect to happen?
And you brought in Traylen Burks.
Your guy, Joe, he's from Arkansas.
Yeah.
Oh, he's a bigger.
He's a bigger A.J. Brown.
Okay.
I get all that.
I get all that.
I do.
I really do.
Every time, it's okay.
It's okay.
The model car that I got now, it's okay if they come out with a newer model.
All they did would change the body style.
And my car still run good.
It seems like every time, well, he's similar to AJ Brown or he's similar to this guy.
Well, let's get him and let this guy go.
That guy's good, been productive for you three, four, five years.
And just because now he's 28, 29, you say, let me get the 20, 21, 22 model.
Mm-mm.
And half the time it don't even work out.
No, exactly.
That 22 model ain't going to give him no gripes and grung.
Mm-mm.
Yeah.
He ain't going to complain.
Like, you know, you're right.
Yeah.
And that's what they want.
They don't want no pushback, bro.
Dang.
Well, they got to, I, look, I don't know what they're going to do.
Cam Ward is going to have to be the solution.
Because the last thing I want to do, oh, Joe, Joe is go back in the draft and get another quarterback.
That's going to sit me back.
Because now I got, I got to raise him.
You can't do that.
If you do that, all that mean you gave up on it.
I don't want to.
Well, if you do it, that's what that mean.
That's how he's going to take it.
You gave a bonus.
You brought,
you bringing somebody else in to replace me to take my job.
Now,
that could work.
That could benefit him.
You know what I mean?
You never know.
Because look at everybody,
for the most part,
look at Sam Darno when he left the Jets.
Yeah.
Look at Gino when he left the Jets.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Never know.
Sometimes organizations are just poorly run.
and they don't, you know, they don't know how to foster, you know,
they don't know how to, they don't have the coaching staff to nurture a young quarterback.
Because he's different.
His mind, no matter what you say, you, they're different.
Right.
They have the biggest egos.
They have the fragilest egos.
They just do the best job of hiding it.
Hmm.
Hey, people like, man, Jail and Hurst don't show no emotion.
What happened when they went laid his ass out of that tent?
And Andy Dawton threw that damn pick.
Hey, I ain't never seen him like that.
Okay.
Hey.
Now, that's, that's the real Jamie Hertz.
Yes.
That was bad.
That's the real Jamie Hertz.
Yes.
But you can, but as a competitor, you can understand.
Oh, Joe.
Yes.
Think about it.
If it was any one of us in that situation, we've been saying, damn way, like,
then first off, I don't even want to go in the damn tent, okay?
Listen, man, get me back out there on the field.
And the little second I do go in there, you mean to tell me we in the red zone.
And this man,
throw a pig.
Oh, yeah, I'm fine.
Well, I thought Siriani because they had to run a play,
so he missed a play called time out.
Damn.
He was hot play.
I thought coaches had all the answers.
You know, they got all the analytics.
What did analytics tell you?
If your quarterback go out of game,
your backup comes in and run a play,
what should you do next?
Yeah.
May ask Siri here.
Shit, tell you.
Ha.
Hey, Chad GPT,
check it.
Take it over.
Hey, Chad GpT, what should I do if my starting quarterback goes out?
And the backup comes in and run a play.
Should I call a time out?
Yes.
Most coaches in this situation would call a time out.
Yeah.
Hey, why you're playing Chad GPT, a show, break it down for you, just like that.
Hey, absolutely.
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