Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Giants TRADE Daniel Faalele + Todd Monken SHUTS DOWN Practice + Shedeur on Todd Monken’s INTENSITY at Training Camp + Desuan Watson SPEAKS to MEDIA

Episode Date: August 20, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Giants trading Daniel Faalele, Todd Monken shutting down Browns practice, Shedeur on Todd Monken’s intensity and Deshaun Watson speaks to media! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction04:08 - Giants trade Daniel Faalele16:17 - Todd Monken ends Browns’ practice early25:37 - Shedeur Sanders talks about Todd Monken’s intensity at training camp48:20 - DeShaun’s comments to the media today (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got a very special guest joining us a little late in the evening at 830 Pacific. Roley Ramiro, he joins us, talking about his big upcoming fight. But first, you're never going to believe this, guys. The New York Giants have traded Daniel Falayle to the Jaguars for a sixth round draft pick in 2027. According to Pro Football Focus, the 6-8, 380-pound tackle masquerading of a football player, had 535 snap, fast blocking snaps, 30% pressure allowed and gave up four sacks in 2025.

That's a miscount. Harbaugh must be listening to those guys. Ocho. Hey, that's your fault, honestly. That's your fault. I blame you. Yeah, that's definitely, obviously, I think Unne needs to understand. Obviously, when he talks about players on here, his voice holds so much weight that even in the

higher positions of those who make the calls and can control the outcomes of certain players that are still actively playing when Unx says things like that, it carries and it carry. It carries. It carries. It carries. It carries. It does. How do you, eight weeks in the training camp, eight days, if that.

How you already traded? Lost this job, man. That's his job. You know it wasn't good to begin with. I ain't tell no lie. Well, obviously he was good enough for him to come to go. go from Baltimore over to New York. He bought him with him for a reason.

Hey, have you ever moved before, Ocho? Yes, sir. Sometimes you take stuff to the new house that you should have left in the old house, don't you? Hello. It just happens. It's just the way it is. It just happens sometimes.

It's just a hoarder. You just a hoarder, huh? Yeah, that's what he is. Yeah, actually, it's unfortunate. You never want to see a player lose their job. You never do, but obviously he needs to improve. Maybe this is gonna be a wake-up call, in a sense, to improve.

that is respective crap at the position that he does play and become more of an asset, become more valuable. I mean, that's the only I can think of. You look at it and you look at what he allowed to happen to Lamar Jackson as an act, mobile as Lamarias. You think Jackson Dart was going to be able to get away from that? Nah. I mean, Lamar Jackson, he had Lamar Jackson running for his life.

Ain't no telling what Lamar numbers would have looked like had he been able to get some protection and not get, get, get, uh, have to make a decision instantaneous. Right. But other, look, reading up on this, Joe, I see that Jacksonville, they've been besieged. Their offensive line has been besieged by O-line injuries.

One guy had a back surgery. A couple of guys are just, some guys are just getting back. But basically they had, I was reading, they had like four or five of their offensive linemen that's been down and been dealing with injuries. So this is why they made the move.

But, hey, to be able to get a six-round draft pick in 20-27 for that guy, and, you know, he was the second round. He was the second string lineman, but he hadn't played well in a very, very long time. Hey, I'm saying, so y'all think he's going to, he going to back some guys up. He's going to start, Joe. Jacksonville. He's going to start.

Yeah, the season started in two weeks. But then he can't, but he can't be a backup. He could probably be a backup if everybody for the, for the Jacksonville Jaguar wasn't hurt. Behind the bench. That's a big boy, though, man. What are you? Six, seven, six, six eight. Six, eight, three, 80?

Yeah, and just, just a joke, just by looking at him, you know, he looks physically imposing, but he doesn't play his size. He doesn't play nowhere near his size. That's why I think someone of that size, he's more of a project, and they will keep him around until he improves. He'll always have a job, Joe, especially at that size, always. Ain't no more, oh, Joe, this man been to leave four, five years. Ain't no more project. You got to be developed.

And nobody takes this long. They ain't take this long to build a great wall of China. Hell, that shit. That's 2,000 miles long. How the hell it takes you two? How you can finish something? I'm just being facetious. But come on, man.

It's time for him. He got to develop. It's time for him to get better. Yeah. He has to be better. And right now, he's, I mean, look, maybe he's better in the run game than pass protection. And normally guys that side are,

normally guys that side don't you, they're mallers, Joe. Yeah. They just try to get your hands. hands on you and try to maw you. He's like, and the reason why he, they list him as tackle, and he can't play tackle because he doesn't play well in space because it's too slow, feet too slow. Yeah.

And you're not, and our business Joe's slow feet don't eat. Hey. Absolutely. So it's like, hey, hey, so why in hell Jacksonville trade for them? They besieged by injuries. Yeah. Oh, they need. They need a body.

They need a body. Yeah. And you know what I don't like to also, Uncle, you leave, you leave Baltimore, you go to New York, you get traded to Jacksonville. you know that's a blow to your ego. Not only your ego, but the one thing that you need to play any sport. Matter of fact, the one thing you need to do anything in life and want to succeed at it is, Joe, you need confidence.

You've got to have confidence in everything that you do. And when stuff like this continues to happen, I'm sure he hears all the things that people say about him on the outside looking in. I know he tried to maintain his focus in doing the best that he can, but even his best right now is not good enough because if it was good enough, you'll still be in Baltimore. If it was good enough, you'll still be in New York. His confidence is shot at this point.

I'm saying why you think it's a blow to his ego though. Joe, you're an NFL player, Joe. You're an NFL player. I'm saying. Anytime you get traded, anytime, for one, you hear all the noise from last year, right? So Harbaugh goes to New York. Harbaugh brings you, right? I'm not even sure if you were to start there in New York.

But now you get traded eight weeks, nine, eight, why I keep saying weeks, eight, nine days in the training camp, now you're on another team. That does something to you, Joe. Hey, hey, hey, I think it does. something to you, Ocho, but at the same time, unless you know, hell, you still have an opportunity. Another team felt, yeah, somebody wanted you, and that's all you want.

You know, as a professional, now I can see if they sent his ass on, they released him, and he was on the couch somewhere. You know what I mean? But the fact that he still gets a chance to play high level football in the NFL. I think he still think he has a real opportunity. How do we understand this then, Joe? Harbaugh kept his ass in the starting lineup

the whole last year and getting Marr had chased all around the field, like Debo chasing it. After one sack, he traded. So you mean to tell me you're going to trade him after one sack on Jackson Dart, and then you're going to let, I mean, and then now you let him play a whole season and a half. He started like 30-something games for the Ravens. Yeah.

That's, you know, that's probably why. You basically trying to say that's why they were playing bad football over there. He bad. I don't know why they were playing bad. I just know he bad. All the other stuff with me, hey, We can sit down and go through a frame by frame and go through player by player. And I'm sure we can find something wrong with all players.

It doesn't matter how great you were, how marginally you are. We all don't play our best football at every single snap, every single down. But with that being said, at some point in time on Joe, Joe, you just can't keep chasing guys around. You can't be out there like a blind dog in a me house. Like which one I got? Who did I got? Which way did he go? Which way did he go?

I mean, he's just, he bad. I mean, hey, his footwork is bad. And look, and it's hard to have quick feet when you're that size on your job. You think about the man, damn, they're 20 pounds for 400. Yeah. There ain't very many guys in the league, especially guys being that heavy that can play. Yeah. It's just getting so important.

It's so heavy. You just don't move well. And that's him. He just doesn't, he just doesn't move well. I mean, you watch him try to pass. it's like slowly I turn step by step. Like dad, the man already doesn't go by you. So you're saying the defense alignment up there

when he see him in front of him, his eyes get big. He. Defense of liable, they fight and trying to line up over him to get, hey, now, man, come on man. Hey, they over there, they over there, they're over there argue because they want to, they want to be in front of him. Thanks.

I'm hoping to get revived himself over there in Jacksonville, man. You know, get some quality reps. I'm not sure who's over there on the D-line with Jacksonville. But one of those players, you know, he needs to stay out to practice zone and just work on everything. Blocking, you know, it drop on past, past setting. I mean, whatever he needs to do just to improve, man, so we can become more of an asset and more of a value to that team that he's on now.

because you know what the next step is. I believe. Yeah. But Ocho, Ocho, hold on. Man, man, Ben Lee four, five years, man, he is what he is. I mean, what you think, what do you think is going to happen? Joe, I don't know. I just know, I want something.

Something has to happen. Something has to click in him where he gets his confidence back. Right now, there's no way you have confidence. There's no way you have confidence. Hell, Joe, I'm righter after I drop one ball, Joe. Can you imagine going to team and getting traded? Everybody got the same level of pride

you have, Boucho. So you're saying, you're saying, hell, somebody beat you one time or he ain't being you. He ain't going to beat you. And I'm not going to look that bad. Even when I ain't know the plays,

I ain't looked that damn bad. To look that, and I damn sure wasn't going to look that bad four or five years into my career. That's for certain. Right. And it's almost like he doesn't,

it's not like he can't block. It's almost like when he goes to the line, And they do anything other than what they're supposed to do, like line up in front of him and come get it. But if anything, they do anything, they move away, bring extra guys, they lost. Oh, man. Yeah, if they stunt, you know, if his guy disappears,

he's kind of lost and not catching the next person coming on the stunt, any wraps, any overlaps, any overlaps, it gets a little bit more difficult. Yeah. You know that, that mean with that, that kid, he'll, like, it's him. It's like he, because your figure football is quick. Those plays, the plays only last like four seconds. So you got to make a decision instantaneous. Simple rule, if you hesitate, you beat in any sport.

Every time. If you hesitate, you beat. And far too many times, we've seen hesitation. And look, to be able to, there's a great chance. I don't know, he might have made the team. He might have not. But the mere fact, they're able to get a six-round draft pick from him. they're able to get a six-round draft pick for a guy that could potentially not be on their roster

when the final 53 is announced. I think that's a pretty good trade-off for them. I think it's a pretty good trade-off for them. They were able to get some level of, go ahead. They were able to get some level of compensation for him. But, I mean, look, the chat knows. The chat don't watch the day. They don't seen cut-up clips.

And we're not the only, I'm not the only one that's talked about his play or lack thereof. the chat can see for themselves even the greatest, even, you know, just casual fans that it really doesn't understand, you know, technique and sets or things of that nature can see that, nah, now, he's not good.

Hey, hey, hey, chat say the comment section can block better than his ass. His phone, he can't even block you on the phone. He can't even do the other block nightcap, but block our account. That's how bad he was it blocking. Yeah, I got to chill. Hey, y'all got a chill.

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personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Another week of drama in Cleveland. First, this was reported yesterday from the Brown's camp. Brown's practice is over. It was an abrupt ending that Todd Munkin call as he addressed the team. He seemed to be frustrated with some of the over-physicality from the defense. During the move-the-ball session, the defensive lineman made contact with Stewart's

Sanders' arm and was sent to the sideline. Same thing happened with Aidan Huntington, not Quinn Johnson, Johnson, Johnson. to the ground on a run plate. Practice was called not too long afterwards. Oh Joe. Hey, hold on. Hey, Uncle Joe, does Todd Munkin understand what defense he has? Does he understand how good they were a top three defense last year?

This is what I understand you want to practice. You want the offense to be able to do what they want to do. But this is what you signed up for. You have a top three, five defense in the NFL. Of course you're going to have days like this. Of course, there's a reason they were that good. You can ask you a question. Talk to him.

Take your time. You think they're as good as the 2000 Ravens? Oh, that's impossible. We don't even had them kind of players these days. They never hit Trent Dillford or they never hit Tony Banks' arm. I got you. I got you. I see what you're going with it.

Dumb, you can't knock your own players out. Right. This is your team. This is what you're going to have to go to battle with. And if you harm, hurt your own players, Oh, that's fine. You're fired up and I get all of that. I believe you can be as physical as you need to be.

But you know you can't hit the quarterback arm now, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure that was probably a mistake. You know, they don't want to do that on purpose. But, you know, they'd be flying, boy. You know, the boy, be flying. They'd be flying like hell, trying to make a play and on film. Look, I was there.

Oh, boy, I wish I could have seen. In my years, there, nine years playing with John. Somebody hit his arm when he threw it. John Elway. Man, please, come on now. You know better than that. You know better than that. I just want to see it.

I didn't want to see what Dan or Mike would have said. They threw you out of practice. Mike, they threw you in the waiver wire. They didn't cut the hell out of you. You hit that man's arm. Because the thing is, you in that throwing motion. You mess right and bang his finger. You miss right to dislocate a finger.

Or you raise the hand. Or hit his elbow. You hit his elbow. You mess his elbow up. You mess his shoulder up. The first rule of thumb is that you never, never get in the quarterback's book. You never get anywhere close to his arm or his shoulder.

Yeah. Yeah. And then you not. Matter of fact, hey, why you think Kirk Cousins and Matt Crawfie was going at it? Same thing. And yesterday, what you call him went into it? Nick Benino and Bo Knicks got into it. See, you see what I mean?

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, when it come to training camp, what? Joe, when it come to training camp, what? This is what you get every year, no matter what. They're dating back to it. When I played Unk, I'm not sure, I'm sure we y'all, y'all have scuffles as well, but it really ain't training camp unless you're going at it. Yeah. And, okay, Ocho, it's kind of like the dog days down in training camp because y'all been going at it's so damn much.

Yeah, look, you got, you got guys overzealous trying to make plays, trying to make the team, trying to impress the coaching staff. It is what it is, bro. It's a doggy dog world out here. You know what I mean? Man, I'm trying to get it, bro. And you got these young teams like the Cleveland Brown who's still trying to. to show and prove themselves defensively. What I want to ask you on, Ocho, is, y'all still think the Brown's going to be a top

five defense, even though Miles Garrett is not there? I know they got some great pieces, but. I think it's going to be harder because I need to see the improvement on the offense because eventually you're going to wear it down. It's hard to be a top level defense when your offense doesn't generate any offense to give you a break because you, hey, let's just say for the sake of argument, you go three and out or you go and drive and you hold them only to three points. You kick, they kicked the ball off.

They kicked the ball off to you. And they say, you know, D, you are up because you go three it out. Yeah. After a little bit of that, it gets, it gets, it gets demoralizing. Yes. And the one thing you don't want to have as a team is to get demoralizing. But see, the Cleveland, the offensive players don't know how to handle that. The first time one of them guys would hit the quarterback's shoulder or knocked that

court knocked out a running back down we cut yeah all right it's gonna get it's gonna get you know so in other words you don't care about us so why should I care about you right right yeah yeah we team with this I just I look at it oh cho when I say we team it's it's office versus the defense yes so you do something to my guy on offense I don't look at you as a teammate now I'm focused on all I see is that you knocked TD down all of a sudden all I saw is that you tried to hurt my quarterback. So now I got to get you. Yeah, I kind of agree with Unc in a sense, almost.

I don't play like that, man. Right. Hey, Joe, I kind of agree with Uncle in a sense, but I think the way that defense is constructed, even with them losing Miles Garrett and having Brother Verst coming in from the L.A. Rams, I'm not saying he's Miles Garrett, but he's damn good. I'm not saying he's mild Garrett, but he's damn good.

No, no, no. Versus is a very good player. Yeah, yeah, very good player. Yeah, hell, yeah. So they still have most of their defensive pieces. So I still think they would be one of the top defenses in the NFL. Their secondary, solid. Yeah.

You know, second level, solid. You know, you lose Miles Garrett, but I still think Jared verse can fill that void. Maybe not getting 23 sacks. But, boy, he got a motor, though. He got, he got a motor. He would be double-digit sacks. I think the thing, excuse me, Chad. The question that I have is offensively, Ocho.

Are they going to, can they improve a little bit? Just a little. Because that office was really bad, Ocho, their office was really bad last year. Yeah. And we're being kind. They were awful. If they improve just a little bit, man. But they're going to be held to deal with.

They're going to be here to deal with. They got to have their identity is defense in general. That's their identity. Can you give us something on offense week to week? Give us, give us 14. Give us 17. Ooh, that's going to be hard to come by, Ocho. Because I don't know if they improve the offensive line.

Your quarterback, your guys get back there, man. I mean, we took it moved the ball when it's team. Because sometimes, you know, we moved the ball, it's seven on seven. But a lot of times, you know, you want to see, you want to see, move the ball. You want to see offense versus defense. defense ones versus ones. Right.

So they got their best pass, they got the guy, they, they pass rushing package. You got a package with past rushes. And then, you know, obviously we got our best players out there. Man, Zim and Bonn, them weren't going for that. Nah. Nah. No.

You can't do that. Your teammates. And I know it gets good. You get fired up and everything. You know, slapping each other on the helmet and bang. I get it. Trust me, Chad, I get it. But at the end of the day, that is your teammate.

You knock the quarterback out. You hurt the quarterback. You hurt. Junkins is your best running back. What do you get out of that? Thud him up. Let him go. Stay away from the quarterback. They can see on tape if you could have got to the quarterback coach.

I don't need you to get in the quarterback wheelhouse and have him throw the ball. And the next thing you know, he doesn't broke a finger because he hit your helmet or he jumps up to throw a ball and you jump up and his hand bang your hand how many times did we see that happen plenty a lot yeah come on got you you you got to be you know you got to be smart about this i understand you've been you've been hitting your guys for two weeks now i am so tired of going against my own guy i am i really am but i can't put him in harm's way i just can't do it and there have been a situation where you know you know

hey, we double, we got a double block and we get the guy of balance. Yeah, we could bury him. Or we got them on one leg. Yeah. But what do I get out of that, Joe? I'm hurting, I'm hurting one of my best players. How does that, how does that help us in the long run to help one of our, hurt one of our best players, Joe?

It doesn't. These guys just need to get to be smart and think about stuff before you, because, uh-oh, don't help. My bad don't help. Just be smart about it, Cleveland. Be smart. Yeah, I already know what happened. That would happen to happen to Mike.

We ain't never had no foolsy. We ain't had no foolishness like that. We might have some things that might get upset about guys getting out of position, guys jumping outside, you know, offensive defense, guys dropping passes, guys getting beat. There are things that Mike would get upset about and make us repeated. But he goes, you start the period with that talk. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it.

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Let's take a listen to what Shadour had to say. I think coach came in here understanding that we have ways to go overall when it comes to, like, you know, our winners and losses over the past few years and everything. So it's kind of like building that mentality of toughness. So it's like some places may not have that luxury to not have to do that. But, you know, it's more about a deserve thing. I don't think, you know, we deserve to take this many days off like that. Because we have a lot of young players on offense and young players on the team that we got to be able to expedite the process on catching up with the game speed and really understanding the game.

So it's a thing that, you know, sometimes you may feel away about it, but it's in the grand scheme of things, it's moving towards the direction of where we're trying to get as a franchise and as a team. So as long as everything's aligned with that, then that's how you know, you know, what was good and was not good. And that's very good for us. Because we need to be able to go out there and execute regardless of age and regards of experience.

I agree what he said. But you speed that up. If they hurt the quarterback, tell me how you speed that up if you hurt the quarterback. You don't. No, not at all. Not at all. Not at all.

Hey, Todd Munkin has a, he has a tough job. He has a tough job. Obviously, quarterback has been an issue for the Cleveland Brown for a very long time. 30 plus years. If I'm not mistaken, I'm, I might, correct me if I'm wrong. But it's been a long time. Not only that, Todd Munkin comes to the job where he's trying to change the culture. It needs a change of culture.

So some of the things I think Todd Munkin wants to instill in his team, he also doesn't want to take the edge away from what their identity is. and that's them being as great as they are defensively. Don't take that away from, but at the same time, play within the grand scheme of what practice is. What practice is all about. We know you're going to get there. We can see if we watch film.

We know and just, you know, players have to understand that. Hey, well, one thing I can say about your door, hey, for to be a young player, he's real good at quarterback speak. He real good and said all the right things. Coach is trying to expedite the process. you know, we didn't have a whole lot of wins and losses over the last couple of years. The first couple of years didn't have anything to do with me. I was just speaking to what happened last year.

I can just speak to what happened when I was in there. But, you know, she's doing really, really good. Hey, Pop started well. Time to, hey, coach you must say, look, here, son, no matter how bad things are, we always speak positive. We always talk about the team. We don't never say I or me. It's always we and us.

And, you know, hey, what coach is trying to do is, try to, you know, make sure we have that edge. And maybe there are some of other teams that don't have to go through that process. They don't have to go through that. But we're not there. We haven't deserved that. We hadn't earned that right to be able to say, oh, oh, oh, he's good at this now. Should he do it all.

Oh, no, he, oh, yeah, he, he know how to say the right thing. Okay, Ocho, because look, for me, he knows how to deflect and he never makes it about himself. You know what I mean? He always makes it about the team and what the coach is. trying to what what he's trying to how he's trying to improve the culture for the cleveland browns now we talk about it's been 30 some odd years before they had a a great quarterback but i just don't think the browns do a great job in developing quarterback yeah they draft they drafts some pretty good ones on so ike ocho and it's like hell you're pretty good you just go out there

you're supposed to make magic happen versus really sitting down being diligent you know with your quarterback and really really developing him into a hell of a prospect or to a hell of a NFL player so I just can't believe it's been that long bro and you can't tell me that every quarterback then came through there ain't been worth ain't been worth it you know what I mean I mean no like you said Joe they don't have to the when you when you're losing Joe it's like if my house is on fire Joe I don't have time to go through and get all the member to get the pictures oh this is my wedding album oh this is my high school yearbook I just got to grab what I can grab and get the hell up out of there

Yes, sir. If this organization has been losing for a long period of time, this is what I know. As a head coach, I ain't got a whole lot of time. They're not going to give me no time to develop these damn players. I got to get them running. It's going right now. Guess what?

You saw what they did to Freddie Kay? You saw what they did to Hugh Jack. You saw what they did to a lot of the, a chud. You saw what they do. They're not giving you an opportunity to develop guys. You either win now or you get on. And the worst thing that can happen is that when you have a coach from somewhere else, go in and have success. They look at, man, look what Mike Brable did.

Well, look at the pieces that Mike Grable had. Look at the support that he gets from his head coach. Excuse me, from his owner. Y'all don't support your owners. Y'all don't support your coaches like that. Y'all get them up out of there. Because you think you know more than the coach. Yeah.

There's a reason why you've had 15 coaches. I mean, I wouldn't have to ask, look up how many coaches they've had since Jim and D. Haslam has owned that team. Damn. Greg Williams, gone. Hugh Jack, gone. Freddie Kay, gone. Kevin Stefanski. Gone.

And you're talking about Kevin Stephansky was a two-time coach of the year. I just think he handled the situation bad. last year, but I don't think he's a bad coach. When last time they had a playoff team, bro? Since hammer was a hatchet. What? Yeah, you know how long you gotta beat the hammer to make it a hatchet?

Yeah. That long? They got a few, though. They got a few, Joe. Maybe Baker. 2018, 2019. They've had seven head coaches in 14 seasons.

So you know, means, Ocho? Two years, that's what you got. Now, that's seven. How many years is Zafanski last? He lasted like seven. So when you really knock it down, that's like one a year. Stephensky had to be like five to seven years. Yeah. So six coaches, so if you had seven and 14 years, knock his off, so now you're down to seven and eight years, seven to seven years. how you're going to have success? Oh, they probably, okay, yeah, Pat Sherman. So basically eight coaches

because he got fired. So how am I going to develop something, Joe? What I'm worried about my job? Well, damn, your job will always be on line in October of you don't develop, and if you're just throwing guys out there hoping that y'all win a game, hell. Y'all ain't, man, come on, man.

Ownership ain't going to give you time to develop anyway. They're not. They don't give you time. They're going to give you one, maybe, two. years knowing you don't have a quarterback for one angle be no if you don't have a quarterback you're not going the way to begin with you might as well start right there and then owners GMs they want instant gratification huh it's like it's like putting some in the microwave and expecting it to come out right away that's not the way it works that's not the way it works

and then if you know that's why you want to hit on those picks when you have those number one picks Baker mayfield was supposed to hit Baker mayfield was supposed to be the quarterback for the foreseeable future for 10 to 15 years it it It didn't pan out. Going to the right place is extremely important. If you're going number one, you have to be that great at your respective craft, be in the quarterback position to elevate everybody else around you.

You have to. But nobody's ready, nobody's seasoned, nobody's polished to that magnitude to be able to go from college and come up right now and turn our franchise around completely like that. No, especially not once they get family. Let's say you do have a successful rookie, your uncle Joe once they got film on you man listen but see oh Joe you talk about I got to

develop I got to be careful I got to be careful getting my girl's fillers I got to be careful getting the Botog a boo job and BBL because I might be getting the ready for somebody else I develop a quarterback and I don't even get to coach you when he fully developed not how I'm gonna look you know what you Joe what I mean if you're gonna get fine hell if he don't develop you got to put some time in I ain't gonna get I ain't we'll get a dog up for somebody else. How about that? I know you don't...

I ain't give a dog up for nobody else, Joe. I'm sorry. Listen, listen. I know you don't want to warm up the slot machine for somebody else to hit the jackpot. Yeah, exactly. You got to put... He didn't come behind me.

Joe don't put $100,000 in there. And all of a sudden, somebody sitting down there put one quarter there. And it's just spitting out. It's spending that money. Yeah, yeah. Hey, man. You got to find a way, man.

They can't keep drafting these guys This is all I'm saying. The Browns can't keep drafting these guys and hoping that they pan out. Man, you got to put some time in with these dudes. Well, tell the upstairs that. Yeah, that's not the way of... Tell them to give the court to give the coach some time.

Tell them to stop thinking this is... They got this microwave. See, what is the society, microwave society. Because everybody, we want everything instantaneous. Rep. I remember, we couldn't wait. You have to develop the picture. Now, guess what?

put the camera right on your phone. You can see it right now. Yes. Even the Polaroid. The Polaroid was listening, you had to wave it. Joe, you just couldn't sit there. You had to wait that thing speed up the process.

Because they say nothing about waving it. They say, take the picture and hold, what we do. It wasn't good enough to go to the drugs store and get the film developed. We couldn't wait. We couldn't wait a day or two. They said, you know what? We're going to give y'all exactly what y'all want. Y'all want right now.

Clicking. There you go. And then you can send it. Yep. Yeah. That's what, that's what we, this is what our society has morphed into. And so obviously, football is a microcosm of society. Whatever you see, we're just a microcosm of society.

Because you got black, white, Hispanic, you got a law. You got, you know, Christian, Methodist, Protestant, you got Muslim, you got eight. You got all, you got a mortgage board. Yeah. That's what society is. That's what the football team is. And a lot of the same thoughts, it's just natural that you have them. I just don't get it.

You would think after a while I said, you know what, we've tried it that way. My grandfather, you tell my brother that's okay, now see, now the way I told you to do it, you ain't want to listen to me. Now you don't did it your way. Now we're going to do it my way. Yeah. Jim and D, you don't try it's your way. You ain't never tried it anybody else's way.

I should do it with lights out today. 17 to 25, three touchdowns, zero interceptions. Deshawn Watson, 11 of 16, one touchdown, two interceptions. Dillon Gabriel, two or six, two touchdowns, zero interceptions. And Green did not get any snaps. Damn. Guess what? I know a guy, Ocho, you told me, but anyway, I know a guy who didn't play lights out.

Let's take a look at this video and you tell me what you think, Ocho. Oh. Hey. I give you what, who is that, Ocho? That would you, that would you do. But you all up in the car with them breaking in. Uh huh? He took his ass out of the ball, tried to get him feet in.

Ah, you got to secure that thing, baby. Secure that thing, baby. Hey, it don't matter what, you get 12, you get 12 feet in. Watch, watch that late. Hey, watch the lace. Baby, you got to bring that thing all the way in. As, eyes on the ball. If you ain't got the ball, Ocho.

Huh? That's why I said, bring the ball in first. Have awareness where you at. Use your proof of your vision to see, see where the line's at. Boom. Catch that thing first. Don't you know that, Ocho. When you come out on that speed out?

You know where you are. You know if you need to toe tap. You know if you need to drag. He didn't need to do none of that. Yeah. Run that back and re-wrack that. Let me show, let me show you. Joe, let me show you what I'm talking about.

You ain't got to do nothing, but catch the damn football. He ain't got to do no toe tap. Bye-p-pom. Yeah. Yeah. He let that. I can see if he right down the left.

He got a drag. No, that's easy. That's when you put in your pocket. I put that in my back pocket, Joe. Yeah. Little lazy hands right there. Lazy hands, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

We've been talking about this. Joe, we've been, that look here. That bit, that's been his, that's been his MO since he's gotten the league. What's been his emo, Ocho? Yeah. D-R-O-P-S. Yeah, too many drops, too many drops. We got, we got to get that together.

Yeah, you got to catch that one. You gotta get, and you know what, matter of fact, eh, especially this year, we got to get it together. Huh? We got, we got a lot of completion because of that. Hey, we got a lot on the line, boy. Somebody, all I know, somebody was, somebody would have been 18 or 25 or 24.

Somebody would have been 18 or 24, or somebody would have been 12 or 15, or somebody would have been three or five. That's all I know. I don't know anything else. That's what I know. Somebody got an incompletion because of that. See, that's on my eye.

You see that tracker? I'm putting that in my back. Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, I used to be statching the thing, Joe, with one eye, boy. I'm talking about that thing on the money, too. And you got to be careful, because sometimes you put your hand up, you block your vision.

Mm-hmm. Hey, as a matter of fact, you know what I don't like to? What? That right there? Here, ball coming over my shoulder. I don't even want to get buddy behind me. me, I'm here with it. Cause I, this, he could do that.

I don't want, I don't want to feel you. You won't catch it out here. Yep. So he ain't got no way to get to me. Hey, Joe, I got the arm tucked in like this. Just spread of that thing. So we got no chance to come to get in there. Ah, don't touch me, what?

Yeah. So I just got this uniform out to clean us. Judy better than this, though. Is it, I don't know, maybe, maybe, maybe I, sometimes I feel he's too casual. Catching the football, Ocho. Yeah, that's why. You didn't hear him say, lazy hands?

You know, sometimes you can be relaxed. Man, you get too. You get too relaxed. Hey, go get it. Ah. Man, snatched that. Ah, give me this. What?

Hey, what year is this for Judy? This about, what? Six, I think. He spent three. Yeah, this is at least. This is a bare minimum six. Maybe seven. How many?

How many? Because he and CD came in together. No, he came in here for a, yeah, no. Yeah, he came in with CD. Seven. Hey, so he'll won, he'll won in Cleveland? Yeah. No.

No. Huh? No. Yeah, but you got to have a one. Somebody's got to be your, but he ain't no true number one. He ain't no true number one. Don't let that old show fool you. I understand.

saying he from Florida, South Florida, he ain't no one. And nobody's book with Jerry Judy would be considered as one. And Ocho know it. Hey, Joe. What's up? We're going to be all right. No, no, no, no.

No, I wouldn't hear you. That what are we all right? He already don't. He ain't know what, Joe. Hey, Joe, sometimes you ain't a one, sometime you need to, hey, you know what you are? You just need to be reliable. Forget the numbers game.

I need to be reliable and consistent. I don't care who playing quarterback. Whether it's four or whether it's two. But I need you to catch that ball, boy, that's it. That's it. I know, hey, I want to get me a jersey so bad, but I know it's disrespectful, boy. Get who jersey?

You want to get what? Sandals. Or she do her? Yeah, but I'm like, I, I'm going to wear that. Yeah, you got a point, Ocho. What'd you mean? You know, they'd be taking that serious, Ocho. Yeah, they take that real serious.

They take that real serious. They be getting on makeup. I used to hide my home boy. Yeah. Man, how'd you hype my home boy? That's our, that's our build a rival. Yeah, you can. I'm like, man, I ain't playing no more.

Y'all make it feel like I'm on the Broncos that I'm talking good about the bad. Yeah, I can, I can't do that. I said, but now, now y'all give me something to talk good about us about. Mm-hmm. We're gonna put, we're gonna put foot in them again this year too. Mm-hmm.

Mm. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Oh, you're going to put belt to him. Casey, because, uh. Concepcion? Question is, KC. Concepcion and Isaiah Bond.

I think the thing is, Ocho, he got, he got to be careful because you know, they got high expect they took Casey with a first round pick. Yes, sir. Isaiah Bond. They think a lot of. Mm-hmm. He got to be careful. Hold on.

It's one more now. Hold on. It's another one that's been bawling, too, now. Yeah, I forget his name. I know Boston. Hey, um. You been cutting? What?

Yeah. Yeah. Joe, hey, Joe, I, I sit there and watch all the clips the best way I can since I can't go to everybody's practice. What at Denzel Boston, boy, man, listen, every time I look around, is either him. He's making a play. A young boy over there in Kansas City who's a rookie to, Cyrus Allen. Oh, boy. Hey, he's on the map, boy.

he liked that. I'm excited. I'm excited. Now what I do, caution to the win is practice, same players every day. Let me see what you do on Sunday. Let me see what you do on Sunday.

Let me see what you do in the preseasoning games. You know, when you do it there, then that's like, okay, he won them once. Me, I just thought, I don't know, maybe it's just me. Maybe it was the way. Ocho, I thought practice, I just thought practice was harder than the game.

It was supposed to be. Because they know yourself, how many times, how many times them guys don't see you run around, Ocho? They know if you chop, they already know.

They know when you get ready to run that speed out. They know when you're like, hey, man, Ocho, you ain't running no goal ball. You try to give me the turn so you can run this dick where you throw the hand up

like you're running a go ball. Man, ain't nobody fall over that, Ocho. Yeah. Hey, Joe, he takes out and Ocho throwing a hand up like he's looking for the go ball so he can run the comeback.

Man, ain't nobody back for that, Ocho. I'm going to stay right here, your back, You know what I do like when they did cheat like that on? They let's say they know what the route is. They're still on my hip, but they won't block the ball. They'll let me make the catch.

Yes. Because they know they know the combinations, especially when we go two by two. They know if it's three by one, I'm on the backside. They know the slant is coming, the slander the hits. I mean, so they drive, but they don't make the play because they know. Right. And that's how you should. A lot of tablo, you know what it is.

you know what it is, that it looked at the script. Yeah. You forget about that it, that I look at the script. Hey, that's a good one, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's right.

I said, man, y'all ain't no damn coach you're putting the script down. Yeah. You got people thinking y'all know, because I know you're, you know, you know script in the game. Mm-mm, you got to play on. Man, but those guys, man, I had Roddy Bradford,

I had Tony Beal and I had Dedrick Dodge. Man, they made me work. Yeah. They made me work. Hey, Sharp, you ready to get locked up today? it's time to go to jail. Oh, no, see, there y'all go. Y'all talking too much.

Now, y'all talking crazy. A'am, A. It's different. It's different when the defensive team or the scout team know all the players. It's just like in basketball. Here, we in practice, Uncle Ocho. Guys shooting the screen, they cheating the play.

I'm like, damn. You know the play coming. They said in the cross pick, the cross pick. They are already over there waiting for you to come over. I'm like, damn. You know what I mean? So I know exactly what you mean. Hey, they'd be cheating the plays in practice, know all the play like damn, but what are we supposed to do?

Right. I like my favorite part, Unk, is when we get an opportunity to go with the ones. And the first thing I say before we start, if you see anything, let me know. Let's talk about it. Leon Hall, Torrey Jane, Delta O'Neill, Jeff Burris. I'm talking about, I did as soon as I got there. Every year, whoever our number one and two was, Jonathan Joseph. Listen, when we go through this, anything, any indicators, anything you see me doing that gives something the way, I need to let me know.

But I used to love going against them because they understood, they understood what they were looking for. You know, I didn't care whether he knew what the play was. I didn't care whether he knew the route, the combinations or the script was made for you to be, you know, take me out there. Whatever it may have been. Just I need to have a conversation after every play just to make sure I'm always on point. Yeah. And then Deshawn media availability, this is what he had to say. I mean, I think y'all took the wrong words out of that, saying that I think somebody asked Monkin that, you know, that I'm not capable of playing like 2020. I never said that. I just said that I'm not going to be running guys over like I used to be when I was 24 years old.

So I think I got to preserve the body as much as possible so I can be able to stay on the field. And I think that's one of the things talking about with the front office and coaching. stuff is don't take the unnecessary here's when I don't need to. So, uh, but as far as that, my instincts and the way I play, I don't, when I'm on the field, I just play ball and react. Yeah, hey, hey, them injuries, them injuries pile up. Yeah, you got to change your game. You can't, you can't play the same. You ain't got that same second, third gear that you used to have. You know what I mean? It's a big difference. And as you age in professional sports, you start to see that. You start to see, man, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, you know what I mean, it's a big difference. It's a big difference. And as you age,

my get-up, get-out. Ain't like it used to be five or seven years ago. Hey, Joe, what you called and Joe? That what? They get up and get out. You know, you got, hey, hey, you know, you got some of them quarterbacks, Uncle Ocho. They fads, like, right now.

Like, that's how Deshaun Watson used to be. He used to like, like, Lamar Jackson. Soon as they take off, them dudes fast right away. Pick them up, put them down. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first.

I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Hayes, Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast, Hollywood Handbook. Each week, we talk to someone in show business and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists

for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, Adam Scott, Danny McBride, Ben Stillard, and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nick Tutorough. You probably know me from NYPD Blue, the longest yard,

or Spike Lee's Blackland. And on my new podcast, Delivering Happiness with Nick Tattooro, I deliver pizza to a new guest. I've shared a slice with everyone from Seth Rollins. What are you doing? My belt. To Bill Burr. I don't think I've ever met somebody so exactly out of their mind as I am. And now, we even have more great guests coming up, including the great John Tuturo.

It's called Happiness, delivering happiness. And many, many more. Open your free High Heart Radio app. Search Delivering Happiness with Nick Tutro. And listen now. Hoda Kottenby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotbby. You know, I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out.

You're not hired just to fill time and space. You're hired to fill the space with you. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Our hometown is not a test tube. 90 miles northeast of Nashville, a battle for the future of America plays out in one small town. Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land. We need cities on a shining hill.

This is Our Town, a podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment and fights back. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to Our Town on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, you get your podcasts.