Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Heat shock Celtics, Thunder beat Pelicans, Suns too top-heavy?

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Gilbert Arenas react to the Boston Celtics getting upset in Game 2 at home by the Miami Heat and the Oklahoma City Thunder beat New Orleans Pelicans in NBA's Wednesday playoff slate. Later, they discuss the issues that has plagued Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal in the NBA Playoffs 02:00 Start of show04:40 Thunder beat Pelicans15:00 Miami beats Boston29:40 Update on Giannis from Shams #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chet Holmgren, 26 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks. J-Dub, oh man, they got all the Williams. If your last name is Williams, and you're black, and you're in Oklahoma, you play for the Thunder. He had 21 points, 5 rebounds, seven assists. And they take a commanding lead, 2-0, as they blow out the Pelicans, 124-92.

124-92. The Thunder looked sensational last night. I mean, two nights, excuse me. And they were barking all over the arena. Gil, you've watched this game closely. What did you like about it? How did the Thunder make it look so easy? They just have too much firepower.

I mean, these guys don't play well together. And without Zion, it's really not a fair matchup. I mean, they beat their booty off their back tonight. Yeah. I mean, this is not even a fair matchup. This literally looks like an AC. Actually,

the Pels should have stole that game one. They had game one, Gil. That was the one they should have had. And they let that one get away from them. And the Thunder made sure tonight, we're not going to even put you in that situation where you think you could have won. We're going to go ahead and take care of this thing

early on and make sure you know that your guys come fourth quarter going to be sitting down chilling because this game is over and you're getting ready for game three. The Thunder as a team, as a whole, the Thunder played much better. They played much better than the Pelicans. Obviously, when the Pelicans

don't have Zion, I'm not saying they lost, but they look lost out there. Hell, the goddamn Thunder Trio tonight had 80 points together and they shot damn 65% from the damn field. Yeah. Well, when you get that kind

of production from your big three, it's hard to beat them when you allow a team to shoot. First of all, you give up 35 in the first quarter, you give up 28. So now you've given up

63 points at the half and then you give them another 29 and you give up 32 in the fourth. And so when you get your big three, and they give you that kind of production on that kind of efficiency, yeah, it's going to be hard. It's going to be hard to overcome that. When you're talking about the playoffs, like there's a golden rule that we have as a road team.

The easiest game to win is usually game one. That's the one you want because the pressure is on the home squad. Right. They have, you know, they didn't sleep. They got the kids at home. They got the whatever that is. Right. There's so much anxiety about playing that first game. So that is usually the easiest one, you know, so the fact that they can get that one kind of lets you know,

he was going to get the ass beat today. And the fact that Ingram is not even showing up, right. You're the, you're the, you're, you're supposed to be the second best player on the court. They go shade. Then you, and the fact that you're only getting 10 shots up. Yeah, that's not nearly enough. I mean, they had balance for Duck.

If you look at it, he was 5 or 10. Perfect from the free throw line. Herb Jones, Herb, was 6 of 9, 4 of 7 from 3. Perfect from the free throw line. But it's just not enough shots. Trey Murphy was 2 of 6 from the 3-point line. They were 7 of 26.

When you go 7 of 26 and you get outscored by 21 from the three-point line and your best player is not there, you have to get more production from your guys. B, I need to be around 30. C.J. McCollum, who had a great stretch

of about 10 games, he needs to be around 25. And now we get Herb to come in there, Herb or Trey Murphy III, one of those guys needs to give you somewhere around 25 to match this kind of production, especially on the road, Gil. Yeah. Can we just call him Jones? I mean, someone born in, what, 98 being called Herb? Come on, guy.

Yeah, you're mad. someone born in what 98 caught being called her come on god yeah you man i i have a question about the mvp mvp discussion yeah real quick i know i know it's still the playoffs but shy gilgis alexander he shot 13 for 19 tonight yeah he had 33 points yes what are the chances of him winning MVP over Luka? I'm just curious. Did you see Jokic the other night against Anthony Davis? 27, 20, and 10.

Hold on. So he's running away with it again? They already got the votes in, Ocho. They had to get the votes in before the play-in tournament started. So those votes in, Ocho. The playoffs, they had to get the votes in before the play-in tournament started. So those votes alone, the playoffs, the regular season MVP,

and the postseason, the postseason has no bearing on the regular season. Okay. Yeah, so yeah, it's one of those things where it's before the playoffs start, but from how we've seen who was most improved, yeah. We, uh, from how we, we, we seen who, uh, was most,

uh, was the most improved. Yeah. We can just say, all right, they are, they already started on some bull crap. They are not,

not read, not read what Gill is talking about. A lot of people thought Malik monk, he led him scoring. He led in a sense. He led him made threes off the bench. He's made a lot of category, but not as read beating out for threes off the bench. He's made a lot of category, but Nas Reed beating

out for sixth man of the year. Yeah, you know, Nas got the bid because he got to start some games. Yeah, right. To start some games, you get some more shots that you normally wouldn't get when you're coming off the bench.

That usually helps a lot of those six-mans, the six-men that play starters, starter minutes, or they start some games that year. They usually have an advantage over that six-man award. So hold on. You said most improved. Did you think Maxie didn't deserve it? You think Maxie didn't?

No. Oh, you thought Kobe White should have won most improved. Yeah, because Kobe White from last year year he was a bench player last year yeah he got put so he averaged nine and then this year 10 which is a plus 10 right right i mean he had nine and averaged 19 okay um last year maxi averaged 20 right right this year 5 This year, 5.9. Right? Right. But how I judge Maxie is, you started off great.

Embiid left. Who were you when Embiid was gone? You were the number one option. Who were you? Your team was 16 and 27. Right. So, you was a bottom-feeding team.

Okay. And you wasn't carrying them on your team a bottom feeding team and you wasn't carrying them on your team. Let's me know you wasn't the most improved. And that's how I judge it. Okay.

Right. Yeah. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Plus five. What did you do when Embiid, like if you,

if you had a plus five, but your team was the other way, 27 and 16. Oh yes, you get it. But the fact that y'all was a bottom feeding team when Embiid wasn't on the floor. Right. Let's me know what you really were. Hey, so Gil, you get it. But the fact that y'all was a bottom-feeding team when Embiid wasn't on the floor

lets me know what you really were. Hey, so Gil, that means when Embiid goes out, does Maxie have to make up for that lack of production? Not the production as a whole. Right. Some of it. Right? It's

you're playing at a 50% pace, or you're a little bit of over 500. Right. You're supposed to be the most improved. You're supposed to be the second best player. You should show some type of leadership when the number one player is gone. When Zion went down, Ingram was holding the ship aboard.

Right. You have to be able to hold the ship. Right. Kind of like what you see Ant-Man doing when Cat goes down. That's what he wanted to see Maxie do when Embiid went down. So instead of getting your average, no, we need to see you go from averaging 26 to averaging 36. Like Brunson. If they said Brunson is the most improved, I wouldn't even bat it.

Because his dominance when he lost his... Drew Rambo. And a lot of players on that team. And put the team on his back. Mitchell Robinson. It looks like. When you go back and you look at Jalen Brunson, when Luka went down a couple years ago,

that's what got him that payday in New York. That's why Dallas regretted not giving him that three-year extension for $55 million. Because now they see, like, hold on, wait a minute. Oh, if we put the ball in your hand, you're capable of doing this? Because, Ocho, we've seen this before. We don't know what a guy's capable of because he's playing behind somebody. Then he goes and gets his own team.

It's kind of like when B.I. He left the Lakers and goes to the All-Star game. Now I got the ball. I don't have to share it with LeBron. I got the ball all by myself. And so now you see these guys. You see Drew Randle.

When he leaves, he's not having to share the ball before Bronson get there. He's an all-star player. So what we're saying is that when guys, when you, it's a two-star team. When one of the stars go out, the other star must do more,

even more. Whether it's points, whether it's rebounds, whether it's assists, but we need to see more of your impact on the game. And he's saying that when Embiid goes out, we didn't see that level of production go up because they were losing games left and right. And Kobe White, I agree, Kobe White was unbelievable.

I mean, a 10-point increase? Yes, that is hard to do. That's very hard to do because it's still DeRozan's team. And at the start of the season, now I think what helped Kobe White is when Zach Levine goes out, Gil, because he ain't going to be able

to get that many shots with Levine and DeRozan in the game. So I've got to give. So one of those guys goes out, and that's what you're saying. He's like, well, I'm giving you, not quite, but I'm giving you a lot of the production that was lost with Levine. I'm giving you some of that production back. But I

won't fight you on that, Gil. I won't fight you and say Kobe White should have been a most improved player. But the shocker of the night, the Heat beat the Celtics. Wait, wait, wait. Time out, time out, time out. Why would you start that segment off like that? What you mean the shocker of the night?

What you mean the shocker of the night? If the shocker of the night. Did you expect Boston to come into Miami and beat the Heat? They were in Boston. Same thing. Yeah. I mean, Boston is close.

I mean, both of them on water, so I can see how you wonder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm just asking. Yes. Just real quick, before we even talk about the Celtics-Heat game, do you expect Boston to beat the Heat?

I'm just curious. Yes. Even though Jimmy Butler's not there you expect Boston to beat the Heat? I'm just curious. Even though we don't have, even though Jimmy Butler's not there, you expect them to win the series? Boston was the overwhelming betting favorite, yes. Right, right.

They're the overwhelming, so how about you bet? Let's bet 200. Run it. Let's bet 200 on the series. Run it. All right, throw it on the floor. All right.

Throw it on the floor. You know, man. You know, money out of sight calls a fight oh let me get my 200 I don't want to have to hurt you now you know all of a sudden money get a smell to it you know when I give it to you they got no smell but when I ask for my money back

man here go your little funky $200 oh it's funky now my little steak $200 now Oh, it's funky now. My little steak is $200 now. Now I got a sale to it. You should have said it was funky before I gave it to you. One thing you should never do. Never bet against Sposher.

Never, never, never bet against Sposher and what he can do. He can do more with less. And you ain't learned your lesson yet because you just bet against us. Miami goes into Boston, win by 10. As they set a franchise record for threes, they made 23 threes.

They made 37 field goals. 23 of them were threes. So the other 14 came on two-point shots and they were 14 and 18 from the field. And that was really the difference of the ballgame. They beat Boston at their own game. Boston takes the most, makes the most threes. Tonight, Miami gave them a dose of their own medicine.

Got great production. They started five. Everybody was in double figures. Havik had 11 points. Caleb Martin had 21 points on five or six from three. Bam out of bio had a double, double 21 points and 10 rebounds. Tyler hero has was six of 11 from three.

He had 24 points. Jaime high cast junior. He was three or six from the three point line. He had 14 points. Duncan Robinson. He had six points. He was two or seven from the three uh herner what herner highsmith is a hundred highsmith what's highsmith's first name highsmith

was three was three or five from the three he had nine points uh right one of three so when you get when you shoot 53 with that many threes, Gil? Oh. Yep. I mean, what is the team going to do? Hayward. Hayward Highsmith. Hayward Highsmith. Hayward High, not Hayward. Yeah.

Hayward Highsmith. Double A. He ain't even important enough to know his name, just to be honest. But, you know, I never understood Boston when they play against Miami. Right. Miami is a small team. They play small. Right.

They want you to play the same style because that's their greatness. Right. Boston does it every single time. You play the Miami style. If they want to shoot threes, drive the ball. Tatum, who's going to block you? Brown, who's going to block you? They don't have anybody. You're putting so much pressure on

Bam. If you attack that basket, there's nothing he can do. Once he's out of the game, who do they have? The fact that you're going to sit there and shoot jumpers all day, it just benefits Miami. And that's why they keep taking these L's of them.

But that's it. Oh, Joe, before you go, but that's their game though. Gil, like I said, we,

as I said in the intro, nobody takes more and nobody makes more. They got a 60. They're like, hold on Gil. We got a 64 and 18 record. We had to be doing something right. And it got them in trouble.

Go ahead, Ojo. Well, I was going to say, you know, I mentioned, I said the Heat were playing at home and I actually understood they were playing at the Garden. But if you knew and did your homework like I did my homework,

the goddamn Heat owned the Celtics at the Garden in the playoffs. Yeah. Listen, the Heat have won the last five or seven games in the playoffs against the Celtics, which is why I don't understand,

as a bet man, as a gambler yourself, why you would even take that bet knowing that the Heat are going to win this series. Well, I don't think so. If you told me that the Heat would win a game or two, I wouldn't be shocked. Win the series is a bet much. I'm sure there are some Heat fans that probably would take that bet, but I don't know how many because they don't show their ass up to the game.

Y'all believe so much in the Heat, y'all don't even go to the game. We show up to the game. No, you don't. No, you don't. We feel the arena every night. No, you don't. No. Yes. They go from the club straight to the game, back to the club.

Hey, dog, they come at halftime with a game. That's because of traffic. Traffic bad. Traffic bad downtown. That's all. I think, look, Jason Tatum was 10 of 20. Two of six, six of eight. He had 28.

Jalen Brown was 13 of 23 four of nine from three three or six four he was a minus 22 presidents was a minus 32 and so gill let me ask you this this is what i want to know because i'm watching the game and i know a lot of times we go into a game and don't you know this they might say okay this guy isn't good at that, so let him do it. Well, he don't shoot the three ball really well, so don't worry about him. Let's not leave Tyler Hero, Duncan Robinson, somebody like that.

But at what point in time do you see, okay, he made one. Damn. He made another one. Nah, I ain't finna overreact. Hold on. At some point in time, Gil, you're like, hold on. We got to hug up.

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As soon as he gets it, I'm going to overrun it. He's going to drive by me. Now I'm going to hesitate. He's going to shoot a shot. Now he's playing the puppet master with me. Now he's sitting there doing this with me. Yeah, he's a pedo. And that's the problem.

This is still an NBA player. Yes. Right? Yeah, he can shoot when someone has a hand in his face, but everybody can shoot wide open. Yeah. Like Shaq shooting free throws in practice, he's shooting about 80%.

In the game, 50%. Right? Yeah. You can't bring practice to players like this. If a guy can't shoot, do not tempt him to shoot those shots. Because once he gets rolling, his confidence is there. Yeah. He'll still be there to challenge it, knowing that he wants to drive.

They let guys shoot around threes. Everybody on the NBA roster, with the exception of probably Beaubon, and Beaubon probably could make two or ten. But for the most part, don't you know, real talk, if you've been to games, you watch these guys shoot the basketball. And guys have hit like five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten shots in a row. And he might not even see the court. You leave a guy wide open, it's just like we get a game plan.

Okay, this guy's not that strong at the point of attack and he doesn't bend the edge as well. Well, come halftime, he's got two sacks and five pressures. Well, we've got to change. We've got to slide the protection to him. I know what the scouting report said and I know what Mike's going to do. He's going to start sliding the protection, or he's going to have the bat to chip his way out.

You've got to alter that. But all they did, half-heartedly, run halfway there, stick a hand up. With a guy jumping, he don't even see your hand. And once they get into a rhythm, they don't even see you. But I was surprised that Boston didn't even see you. But I was surprised that Boston didn't really alter anything. They were just like, okay, we're going to hope you're going to miss. You'll miss. You're not

going to make that many. Well, they might not make 23 again, but they made them that night and you made no adjustment. Right. Parliament, what do you think they do in Miami? What is Duncan Robinson going to do besides shoot three? is Duncan Robinson going to do besides shoot three? What is Hero going to do besides

shoot three? What is Kevin Love when he come in the game? What you think he going to do? Shoot three. He can't move. We can play in Miami if Kevin Love is out there. Yeah, Kevin Love play like his feet hurt. The only person that don't shoot threes is bam bam yeah and bam let one go he'll let one go hope we go in at the end of the shot clock bam like well hell i gotta let it go there's gonna be a

turnover i don't want to turn over so i take a miss what else what's the chances what's the chance that we get we get j get Jimmy back before the series end? Slim to none? What was his injury? MCL. Sprain MCL. Just a little sprain. A little sprain.

You're going to try to hold off as long as possible. And I hope they don't shoot him up with the tour at all or whatever they got now. That new stuff. You know, just so he can go out there and play. I think Pat Riley would, like they did Hero last year, they're not going to put him in a fire if his knee ain't ready. They're going to tease it. They're going to tease old Jimmy coming back. They might

do that a couple times. But I don't see them. If it's spraying, they're going to really be careful about it. Yeah. I just don't get what Boston was thinking. That's a team. I mean, first of all, they ain't got a guy that's going to really be careful about it. Yeah, I just don't get what Boston was thinking. That's a team. I mean, first of all, they ain't got a guy that's going to really drive the basketball.

I mean, so what are they going to do? They're going to shoot three. Jimmy is the only one that's willing to put the ball on the floor and consistently get to the basket. Like you said, those other guys, they're looking to get three balls off. That's their game. That's it.

But look, we know Boston normally takes a round. They try to get around 40. You know it's bad. They only got 32 threes up, Gil. They normally in the 40s. I really don't understand. You're letting

just drive. First half, I'm telling, hey, listen, I know we like threes. Good. I'll make it up to you next round. Right now, drive every time you get the ball. Because once Bam goes down, that team is basically 6-6 and below.

Right. Yeah. Right? That's the Philippines. Philippines got a lead. Everybody was 6'3 and under. Right. Everybody guards after that. Right. Anybody, before you go,

if it's not Harman, Hyakaz, I'm running everybody else off the three-point line. I know K. Lamar can shoot threes. I know Tyler Hero can shoot threes. I know Duncan Robinson can shoot threes. I know Tyler Hero can shoot threes. I know Duncan Robinson can shoot threes. I know the Jokic. He can shoot threes. If it ain't what you call him, I'm running him off too.

And hopefully we get rotation over. Because he'll go away. He'll bam on you now. He'll flush it on you. Okay. So next game, we got game three. What game three? Game three in Miami it on you. Okay. So next game, we got game three. What game three? Game three in Miami?

In Miami. Okay. Game three is in Miami. Yes. Let's say the Celtics come back and they make the adjustments based on what Gillis talked about. And they say, you know, we're going to put the ball on the floor and we're going to drive. Yeah. Constantly.

Yeah. So all Spohr is going to do is just make the adjustments as well. Okay, we're not going to hike up threes. Okay, we're not going to hike up threes okay we're not going to hike up threes we're going to move the ball around enough put the ball on the floor and when you have your opportunities pick roll I mean whatever you got to do mid-range coming to play Bam back and down

who they got to stop Bam in the paint outside of Porzingis Porzingis we don't see him we don't see buddy he was bad though Porzingis. How do you say his name? Porzingis. We don't see him. He was bad though. He was 1 for 9, 0 for 4.

He was a minus 32 in 30 minutes. See, his confidence already shot. Holiday didn't play much better. We had him in the paint. Get down to Bam. Bam put a little muscle on him. It's a wrap. Again, we're going to win game three in Miami too.

They don't have any shot blockers. That's the only problem in Miami. They don't have any shot blockers. So if you attack the rim, you put so much pressure on Bam. Right? And you ask him, and Bam has to jump. He gets his first foul, or he goes for a block and don't get the offensive rebound.

Right. You're going to see the frustration on his face. So there's there's there's strategies within strategies in the playoffs. And Boston thinks this is regular season. Yeah. They beat you for a reason. It's not your team has not been dominant in a regular season. You've been for a reason. It's not like your team has not been dominant in a regular season. You've been dominant, Boston. Right? This team has beaten you. There's a reason why.

They figured out you guys don't like to get hit. So they're going to beat up on you and try to keep you out there. It's like a boxer, right? If you're fighting Mike Tyson, you're going to try to use the link. You don't want to get in your body. Yeah, you don't want to be in the pocket with him. Now imagine

Mike Tyson can never get to the body. That's what it is. They're trying to keep, going to keep swinging from back there. You can't hurt me. Is it Jovic or Hobbit? Jovic. It's Jovic. Jovic.

Jovic. Man, you really trying to learn people's names? Yeah, because I want people you know what I'm saying? People like, man, that ain't a man name. Jovich. Well, oh, then we jump to go. Well, guess what? We're going to go ahead and get it now.

We're going to go ahead and get it now. Go ahead. Run the news cap. News cap. Rough Yannis update from Shams. Shams said, I'm told Yannis has at least started to do some stationary jump

shooting, but still not much cutting, scrimmaging, no all-out running yet. I think the Bucs have been prepared to keep playing on without Giannis. Yeah, I mean, I hope they didn't think this was going to interrupt our normally scheduled programming. We know there's a very slim chance that Giannis is going to return in this series, a very slim.

And I'm thinking maybe game six or seven, Gil. But I don't see a scenario. I mean, maybe you, I mean, you've dealt with, probably dealt with calf injuries in basketball. A lot of plant stop, cutting, jumping, things of that nature. But what do you think? Do you think we see him before game six or seven, if we see him at all?

Unless they get to the championship, Giannis ain't coming back. And if he does, they are stupid. Because if you know anyone who tore their Achilles, unless it's just random right there, usually the low calf strain is where it starts off with

low calf strain high achilles right that's that's where it's connected at right so that happened to kevin duran and he came back and we see what happened for him it was his right leg which is not his jumping leg so it doesn't affect his game um yannis it's his right leg, which is not his jumping leg, so it doesn't affect his game. Giannis, it's his jumping leg. The way he plays this game, there's no way he can come back in the playoffs trying to do what he'd do

and won't have a high probability of tearing that ACL, I mean, that Achilles. Yeah. There's no point in bringing him back. I'm sorry. It'd be career suicide if you do.

What do you think, Ocho? Absolutely not. I mean, obviously, I think it's a calf strain. And you come back too soon from that, you're going to compromise other areas of your lower extremities. Start to compensate. Yeah, you start compensating And now you come back too soon from that. You're going to compromise other areas of your lower, your lower extremities. And yeah,

you don't, you start compensating. And the first thing that's going to go is that Achilles. And then what's going to, what's going to make it even worse is if you take any type of Toradol, you take any type of pain medication that doesn't allow you. You don't know it's hurting.

Yeah. The mat though. You don't know it's hurting. And this, you're going to, you're going to tear everything up below that knee. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. I don't have, you took Torad tear everything up below that knee. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You took tort on Ocho? I had to say just one time. Just one time. I tore my labrum from 12 to 6, and I was wearing a brace, and I took a tort off for two games just to be able to get through that pain of having to raise up. Obviously, the brace wouldn't allow me to come all the way up, but boy, when I got about right here, I just wanted to be able, if the ball was a little high, I wanted to be able to reach up and go get it. Yeah.

But once that adrenaline started running up, man, I ain't feel nothing. But after that game? You got to tell me. Hey, I don't shout out. Hey. Hey, man. Sharp, you going to be able to go?

I was like, I don't know. Monday. Ah. Tuesday. Ah. man, I go in there Sunday I had Parsons separated both of my shoulders rest his soul, Dave Dorison we were playing the Cardinals in the last preseason game I went to run a seven route

laid out for it fell on this shoulder and then he fell on this shoulder, and then he fell on top of me and got the other one. Ooh, I'm like this here, Ocho. Hey, he been listening to this. Man, they hit me by, he gave me by two or three shots and deal with by two or three and deal with. You was good.

Hey, I can do this right here. Man, I mess around and crack. Who I cracked back on? That might have been Ronnie? Ronnie Locke? I think I cracked on Ronnie. Ronnie Locke? Yes. But this was like the second quarter. Man, my body went numb.

I said, oh, no, I can't do this. I know you was on the toilet. I know you was on the boat. No, but I was getting cortisone. No, I did take Tordo. I did take Tordo. I took those. Oh, yeah.

I never had no problem with Tordo. Was there? No. I took the pill. I took the pill twice. I'll never forget. I needed that. No.

No, man. Man, I shot my ankle up every... In 93 and 94, I shot my ankle up every week. Every week? Man, it got so bad, Ocho. The skin. I had to shot my ankle up so much the skin was falling off.

It wasn't... Number white me. You didn't see number white me, Gil. Hey. I had to get... Hey. i got three kids i got a house i got like i got oh you gotta play huh i got you got out there yeah oh i got to get it oh i got to get it kid a private school child support uh i'm two hundred thousand dollar over budget for a house i didn't need i got a quarter i got a quarter of a million dollar car and a Ferrari. I got a big body beat.

Oh, man, I got to get that. You sound like a con lot. Hey, hey. Oh, Joe, I'm in the training room, bro. Give me that car off. And go and hook these ankles up. Oh, I'm a bender. I got to get that.

Yeah. You can't listen. You can't, listen, you can't make the club in the tub. Hell no. Hell no. But I hurt my knee. I hurt my knee. That's what ruined my career.

The tour de l'aube, we playing in the play. And I came back and Mr. LeBron James, the young one, not this old, the young one, running through the lane,

and I tried to stop him with one of these. Yeah. Ran into my wrist, and I was done. Hit me with the butt shot. Oh, yeah, for sure. PBL. That was the first PBL, huh? I couldn't feel nothing out there,

because I just came off the knee surgery. I'm protecting my knee. Once I got this shot, I'm in there flying and all that. Yeah, it definitely take the edge off. It definitely take the edge. Didn't even know it. Then realized as soon as that series is over with,

I got to get another surgery. I hurt myself, Ocho. I went over the middle. I caught it, and I saw him coming. And so I braced. I braced so hard, I ripped rib cartilage. I ripped my own rib cartilage. He ain't hit me.

I braced so hard, I ripped my own rib cartilage. Right. Oh, you tensed up, huh? Yes, yes. So now, on my side, I got a rib that protrudes because the cartilage is not there to hold it down. So, this happened late in the game.

I came straight to the sideline. I said, Greek, I tore something. Hey, let's go shoot it up. He said, Sharpie, it's too late in the game. We'll see what's going on after the game. Right. You played the following week?

Man, they're going to put that medicine in me, Ocho. I did it like, you know, you real tender in here. Oh, yeah. I did it, but like, I said, I can't do it no more. I can't do it no more. Man, that man with her, hey. Like, when you talk about brushing your teeth, cough.

Oh, especially coughing. All that. Or sneezing. If you had to sneeze. Trying to lay down, you like. Man, I had, Gil, I done had everything. I done broke my collarbone. That was a painful fracture in my eye socket.

Dislocated. Hey, Unc, you like, hey, Unc like the goddamn, remember the little video game Operation? Yeah. Everything been hurt on you. And when people talk about, man, Unc be walking F'd up. If you know what Unc had done to his body, you be walking

F'd up too. Bone on bone in my left knee. I got, I took, had the nerve dead in my ankle. Both hips replaced. Fractional orbital, knees, skull, dislocated elbow, fractured collarbone. Hey.

Matt, you know where all that come from, right? What? Lack of nutrition. Lack of eating all that healthy shit. I told you. Guess what? I had one injury. I dislocated my pinky finger. You see my pinky finger? I can't even straighten out no more.

Man, please. That's it. One injury, 12 years. That's it? What did I eat? Ocho, look at Jackie Slater. Jim Marshall. Jim Marshall played 20 years in Minnesota. Yeah. played 20 years in Minnesota.

Yeah. Hold on. In Minnesota when they were outside. When he was outside of Minnesota? Yes. They had a dome? Oh, hell. I think they built a Metro dome.

I think they went inside in like 85. They used to play outside. So, you know, Minnesota is cold. Green Bay is cold. Chicago is cold. Yeah, Minnesota is cold. Green Bay is cold. Chicago is cold. Yeah. Detroit is cold. So, yeah.

What you're saying? Huh? Because fat don't tear up. Muscle do. No, no. I had, no, no, no, no. See, but see, my mind, my mind, see, I had to play, I had to be somewhere around, I couldn't be over 6% body fat. I had to be somewhere around I couldn't be over six percent body fat I

had to be somewhere in that five to six percent range right because I had I had to be light right do what I give but who didn't you do what I had to get them up off me Gil you know what I put them when I put them clamps on them Gil hey they like let me go let me go wait so you So you think you were about 6% body fat? I was about 5 to 6. Yeah. Well, if you were 5 to 6, I was probably 2. I was probably 2 or 3.

Ocho, you weighed 36 pounds. Would you stop saying that, man? For people who really think I was that little, I played at 215. Man, look here. I was at 215, too. Ocho ain't never been 215 in his life, Gil. With the pads on or off?

Not off. I was rocked up. Pads and a 25-pound weight, I put him at 205. Right, like real people, too? Yeah, yeah. I was 215. I was 6'3", 215, man. 4'2", 4'1", 4'2", 4'1", 40.

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Now you just told everybody your 40 time was why you went in the second round. Now you ran 4-2? No, the reason I went in the second round is because I bounced around from school to school, and it was too many red flags. That's why. Too many red flags. I went to 30-11 schools before I even got drafted.

Bro, 30-11. Look here. Eric Swann was in the semi-league. That joke went in the first round. Top five pick. What year that was? What year did Swann was in the semi-league. That joke went in the first round. Top five pick. What year that was? What year did Swann come out? 96.

That's why. No. 2001. 2001. Man, hey, listen. They went and talked to my teachers in elementary school. I mean, what does it matter what I did in elementary school going into the draft in 2001

that made no sense to me actually they need look elementary school? let me ask you a question if somebody said Ocho I got a deal and I need you to invest $10 million I need you to invest $20 million $30 million

you going to take their word for it or what are you going to do some background checking I'm just asking. I understand. I understand doing a background check. Please explain to me how talking to my elementary teachers in 1985, 1984, whatever it may be.

What type of kid was it? Was he disruptive? Did he steal? Who wasn't disruptive in elementary? Of course I was. A lot of kids weren't disruptive Ocho show me somebody in elementary school that wasn't disruptive in any kind of way show me somebody

in elementary school that instills something in some kind of way I really don't get that either like I was stealing because I'm broke once you drop me I ain't broke no more so I don't need to steal. So that don't even matter.

First of all, Gil, Gil, you had a mom and a dad. You middle class. You ain't broke. You good. We'd rob you. Me and Ocho would rob you. But I'm just saying the stuff they be asking, like if you drop me, all these problems go away.

Now some of the stuff I will. Now, some of the stuff, I will concede, some of the stuff that they ask goes overboard. Ridiculous. Now, you heard a story about Blackman from Oklahoma State.

Justin Blackman? Nah, what happened? One GM said he went to Oklahoma State. He didn't know who he was. He said he was in a bar. He went to this bar five days in a row. Guess who was in the bar having a drink every day that he was there? Ocho.

Justin? Ocho, tell the people who got, who got out of the league because why? That's why you do that. That's why you do that. Jacksonville, Justin Black. Yes. The issue that he had at Oklahoma State, Jacksonville didn't do their homework.

One team did their homework, took him off their board. When you invest that kind of money, it's just like, you probably, if you're going to invest that kind of time and energy and money in a young lady, in today's time,

you better go do some background. I mean, today you do have to go back to elementary school. Now you got to go back to elementary school just to make sure. What it was then. There you go, Kiffy. There we go. We got to move the conversation along. We got to move the conversation along.

I ain't fooling with Gil. Man, I ain't fooling with Gil. I'm just saying. Hey, Gil, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. You do. You do.

Huh? Ocho. See right there? Yeah. Hey. Hey, boy. Hey, listen. All 185 pounds.

Man, I'm 215 right there. What is you talking about? No, you're not. You see how many abs I got? Yes. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. 10. Chisel.

3% body fat. 6'3", 215 for 140. That was me. A squirrel leaner than a bear. Hey, one thing about you. I was here when I was well, now. Hey, I tell you, they voted me America's

sexiest man alive in 2005. 2005? Yeah. Sexiest man alive. It wasn't nothing like me. I was Maurice Chestnut before Maurice Chestnut. I was Blair Underwood before Blair Underwood. Hold on.

Because we got drafted. You said 2005? No, no. I'm saying I got drafted in 2001. It wasn't until I came into myself and puberty hit. Then I became the sexiest man alive for like a year. After that, that shit fell. I fell off after that.

Yeah, you about to be. Okay, I was shit fell. I fell off after that. Yeah, you better be. I was just checking because I was back then and it was I was sexy in 46 states. Yeah, they banned me. Y'all already banned me. Yeah, yeah.

Hey, 46? 46, I was still working on other ones oh man man y'all y'all y'all need help uh are the sun gail let me ask you this are the suns too top heavy after seeing the suns being overwhelmed again losing two games by an average of 18 points even with kevin durant dev, Devin Booker, Bradley Beal, all playing heavy minutes, are we witnessing the end of the super team era? Or at least super team as we once knew them. Compose the big three-edged signing

surrounded by a bet minimum players. I mean, we've seen this when, you know, LeBron went to Miami that first year. It was the big three and you had a bunch of minimum players. I mean, we've seen this when LeBron went to Miami that first year. It was the big three, and you had a bunch of minimum players. This might be that year for them where they are a little top-heavy. But for the most part, they do have enough pieces. They're just not using them right.

You have been three individuals out there that's trying to still figure out who needs the ball, how they're going to get the ball, how they're going to get their shots. When I'm open, if you're on, I need to pass you the ball. There's there's still in this this. This is like training camp issues. OK, so the fact in the playoffs and they're still trying to figure out what plays they're going to call and who's going to get the ball, but for the most part they have a solid solid top seven players. Okay. That's pretty much all you need. You need

seven or eight in the playoffs. That's all you need. That 9-10, 11-man rotation. Hey, bro, y'all nothing to get. Them five, six minutes, them ten, eight minutes y'all was getting in the regular season. As we go along further, you got to rely on your guys to play 40 to 44 minutes. Unless you blowing somebody out and then you hopefully you have a bad game or you get blown out. And so now, obviously, that's going to reduce your minutes because you're not going to be playing meaningless minutes when there is no you down by 30 at the start of the fourth quarter.

You're going to be out of the ball game but for the most part yeah but you say pieces and that's kind of what they uh grace now Grayson Allen is gone he led I think if I'm not mistaken I think he led the league in a three point percentage so he was one of your snipers

when you try to you know you try to double to get the ball out of books and he could throw it skip it to Grayson Allen, because he's won some games for him. He's been their leading scorer. Same thing with KD. There's no reason that these three shouldn't be how Bosh, Wade, and LeBron were.

Well, who's going to be Bosh? Kevin Durant can be either one. He Well, who's going to be Bosh? They don't. Kevin Durant can be either one. He can be anyone he wants to be. He can be anyone he wants to be at this moment in time. But there's this, it's like how in football, Brady and Gronk played, right?

Yeah. Gronk and Adelman, right? That's three. They don't play like that. They don't play together like that. You get it. I'm going to drive. I'll give it to you.

You drive it. They're not playing through each other. They're playing individually. They're playing individually. And if I don't have it, I'll give it to you. If you don't have it, you... That's not how you win games in the playoffs. We have to all be on the same accord.

If I have the ball and I turn left, you're going back door because your man is looking at me, and then I'm going to dribble, hand it off to you, then I'm going to slash. It's the three-headed combo, and they're not playing that way right now. You know what they need? They need a big that can score. I know your nerd get the rebounds he can set but if just imagine if they had a big that could score you you see the way uh uh maxi plays off of uh

mb you see the way jamar murray you see the way uh porter jr play off Yoke. When you got a big that can score. See, I would rather have a big that can give me a consistent 12-14 as opposed to having Bradley Beal with Book and KD. KD? If you look at it, really, Aiton didn't want to be in Phoenix anymore. For whatever reason, him and Monty Smith bumped. They bumped, they bumped, Smith bumped. They bumped. They bumped. They bumped.

But Aiden was a better fit than Nert. Because he could score. Because he could roll, dive to the rim, boom. Had a nice little jump shot, little jump hook from

10 to 12. I think he would fit better, and he would have been a Nice little jump shot, little jump hook from 10 to 12. I think he would fit better, and he would have been a better option as their third option as opposed to Beal. Yeah, I mean, they shouldn't have let him go. I know they had to. That inside-outside presence really has to be studied a little bit more with this new generation. But they do have

three guards, guard-like players, that do post up too. Bradley Bill's a great post-up player. Booker's a very great post-up player. And Kevin Durant is a great post-up player, but they're not posting up anybody. No, they don't. They don't like to.

Conley would be on that block in the playoffs. He would be on that block. He gonna have to scream for help. Come and trouble, help! That's all you're gonna hear the whole game. Rudy, where you at? That's all. That's what they should do. You have to beat up on certain players

in the playoffs. Right. Like if I'm playing against Tony Parker in the playoffs, I'm I'm playing against Tony Parker in the playoffs, I'm not playing pick and roll. Let's drop him. Drop. Let's go. Let's go. Take him out. Put Bruce Bowen on me.

Now I got Bruce Bowen on me. Let's play pick and roll because he's not a great pick and roll player. You have to learn how to manipulate the game. And as great as these guys are, they're not. And then you think about it., they're not. Right. And then you think about it.

They don't really have size because who's going to guard Cat in the post? Then you got Naz Reed coming. So, I mean, they really, this is a horrible matchup. It's really horrible. Now, could Phoenix win?

Could they all of a sudden, you know, look, all they did was lose two games on the road they weren't favored all they might yeah i mean that's the rough i mean the series don't start to the road to a road team wins that's when the series starts okay everybody for the most part is held serve at home with the exception of exception of milwaukee that's it milwaukee lost Milwaukee has lost home court. Everybody else has held serve.

Boston. And Boston just lost home court tonight. But, I mean, KD, he might be the same height as Cat, but the size discrepancy, Cat gonna put him on the block and he can't do anything about it.

Naz Reed is a big that can shoot he can't do anything about it. Naz Reed is a big that can shoot. Can't do anything about it. So now, what do you do? Nothing. You still got to put your will on this game. And that's the playoffs is. Everyone is outmatched. It's who's playing to their strength the best.

And right now, Minnesota is. Can I ask you a question? What's Phoenix's strength? Because they're damn sure they're playing to it. Whatever that is. Shooting is their strength. Taking days off? Taking days off is they spend right now.

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