Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Imane Khelif drama, Is Jayson Tatum too boring?

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to all the latest from the 2024 Paris Olympics, including Breanna Stewart leading Team USA to a quarterfinals berth with their victory over Belgium, the controversy surrounding Algerian boxer Imane Khelif's win-by-forfeit over Italy's Angela Carini, Simone Biles capturing another gold medal in the women's all-around gymnastics competition, if Boston Celtics star Jayson Tatum has the personality to be the face of the NBA and whether Minnesota Timberwolves' Anthony Edwards can be the NBA's face without a championship and much more!03:40 - Show Starts05:07 - USA Team Beats Belgium09:06 - Imane Kehlif26:48 - Simone Biles wins Gold in All Around30:32 - Embiid to start Next game53:56 - Olympic Smut on PH01:12:06 - Katie Ledecky never pees in the pool01:15:01 - Paige Bueckers new Ownership(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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87, 74. The team was led by was led again by Stuart. She had 26 points, seven rebounds, three blocks. She was she was tremendous to start the game, scoring 11 of the first 15 points. But then the big dog started to eat Asia Wilson, 23 points, 13 rebounds, three steals as they continued their quest to get their eighth straight gold medal. They haven't lost since the 1992 Olympics, which was in Barcelona. And I don't see them losing to this Olympic. Yeah.

Oh, Joe, what did you see? What did you like about Team USA? I mean, listen, they were dominant. They were dominant. Now, what does scare me, but it's kind of different because I've already talked to you about it and understanding that the international competition as far as women's basketball is concerned hasn't caught up to the women's as opposed to the men's so today we had two starters that had zero points but i think obviously because the big dogs step up and played the way they did and there's really

no competition as far as in that they were that they're going to have to face that can kind of scare them if you have people that are playing especially starters that aren't putting up points because everyone else is scoring there's really nobody to challenge them and kind of kind of scaring for what from winning that goal so i think i think they're going to be fine i mean based off what you've told me and and me watching they're not going to lose. I mean, having starters not score at all in four quarters, it's not good. It made me a little nervous. It made me a little nervous, that's all.

Yeah, but we're so dominant. And the reason why, Ocho, the money. You make more money playing internationally than you play in the WNBA. So why am I going to come play in the WNBA, make less money than I can play making a brawl? See, the men, they can't do that. You make more money in money than I can play making a brawl right see the men they can't do that you make more money in the NBA than you do play in a brawl right so Luka and Jokic and

Giannis and all those other guys they're gonna come play Shea Gildress Jamal Murray RJ Barrett right uh uh Dylan Brooks and those guys and you got Bogdanovich and so you got so many guys the nba is where the money is right well actually in the wmba that's not where the money is it's international and so you don't get the same level of men in the wmba like you get the women the women excuse me you don't get the level of the wmba women international players like you get the men but but can sit Stewie dominant Asia Wilson, 23, 13, three steals. Uh,

they had like 58 re out rebounding by almost 30. Got to get a little better with the turnovers. Yeah. This game probably should have got, probably could have got a little, uh, the U S probably could have got, could have rested a little more comfortable.

Had they taken the little better care of the basketball, but you know, look, you got the two best players on what, and they're, they better care of the basketball. But you know, look, you got the two best players on the same team. You got Asia who's going to be the MVP for the third time. You got Stewart, who's

been a two-time MVP. Look, we got the dominant players. And unless somebody can get hot from three, I don't see a situation where they're going to be able to score enough points in order to beat the u.s women team right that's that's that's my own that's my concern can someone get hot from three because that's the equalizer because nobody else

has two post players uh belgium had a nice post player i forget her name ojo who had 24 points but when you look at stewie and you look at Asia and you still got Brittany Griner that can give you, you know, at any given night, she can give you a double-double. I just don't see an international team that has the post-presence of those two. So now, what do I have to do to beat you? Because

I can't beat you in points in the paint. So now I got to get behind the three-point line and out-shoot you. And that's the question. Can someone get hot enough from the three point line and out shoot these young ladies? Not going to happen. Definitely, definitely not going to happen. OK, Ocho, Algerian boxer. I mean, Khalif.

Is that how you say her name, Ash? Yeah, Khalif. Khalif. who's been targeted by critics and has been misgendered her throughout the games. Khalif participation in the women's boxing has been scrutinized in recent, recent days after reports resurface that she failed to meet gender eligibility tests of the women's world boxing championship in new Delhi last year. At the time,

sporting officials alleged that the boxer failed to an unspecified test because of she had, because they had male chromosome. Khalif was born a woman and has always competed as a woman. See, you got me confused, man. You got me confused. Could you see you said a whole lot of you said a whole lot of everything. But to me, it's registered.

She was born a woman. Are you sure? Born a woman. She was. a woman she was she was here's the thing i don't know if you watch it but when they bring these doctors because right now there's a lot of transgender people trying to get right right and when they bring these people to capitol hill and these senators and these representatives on the other side, when they ask, they ask doctors very specific questions. Yes, sir. Doctor, I want to ask you one thing. Can this person that you're talking about, can they have a child?

Can this woman have a child? Right. Yes, she can. Okay. Does this woman have a period? Yes, she does. So how is she not a woman biologically and anatomically? How is she not a woman? Right and anatomically how is she not a woman right now the problem that i have this is a very similar situation yes sir i don't know if you followed it no i haven't that's why you got me a little confused now how about this there was a there was a young lady from south africa her name was castor caster seminia she had high she was born a woman right but her body produces high levels of testosterone okay what they wanted her to do in order to compete against women they wanted her to

take blockers to block it so you want me now you don't want me to take things to help me win. Right. Which is PEDs. But you want me to ingest something into my body to suppress what God has made me. You said God made it. Everybody always say, oh, they say God made you man and woman. Yes, sir. OK. He made her like this. So in order for you to compete, I need you. No, I'm not. Every man doesn't have the same level of testosterone. But if he's born with those parts, is he any less of a man? So because if a woman is born with

those parts and she produces a higher level of testosterone, does that make her any less of a woman? I'm asking. What do you think? No. Because for the longest time can she conceive a child does she have a period

that's all that matters I don't want to get into all of this and what she chose to identify as see that's where I'm kind of confused now is she's not identifying as a woman God made That's where I'm kind of confused now.

She's not identifying as a woman. God gave her those parts. So Iman. She got the parts. That's the car case. You know, Oto, you like cars, don't you? Yes, sir. You ever watch Mecham?

You ever watch Barrett Jackson? They say this car has the original parts. Right. The original parts car is worth more. Right. This, this, uh, Khalif,

those are her original parts. Hmm. Nothing has been added. Oh. Nothing has been taken away. So Iman Khalif is a woman then. She's a woman. Oh,

okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. No problem. Cause I, on Twitter, I've been watching, okay, okay, okay, okay. No problem. Because on Twitter, I've been watching, seeing all the clips with the boxer, and they say the person that was in the ring was transgender and was a man. They said the same thing about Kasta Semenya. No, I'm not. Because her body, I think she was born with an extra chromosome. Okay.

Which allows her body to produce more testosterone. Right. Than the average female body will produce. Okay. Okay. But guess what, Ocho? Yeah. She can still, the question that they always ask, and I know you've heard it. Yeah.

Can she conceive a child? Mm-hmm. And does she have a period? Okay. Does that not make you female? Right. Does that not make you woman? I thought the ability to reproduce is what

separated her so now it doesn't i'm just trying to figure out because her body produces more testosterone right that does not make her any less of a woman if she has the and i'm not trying to be graphic but if she has female parts she's a woman most definitely hold on, original female parts not parts that have been added you can get sexual reassignment and become a different gender they really do that

put them things together like Legos yeah, cut and slip. Who the hell want to go through that? Some people do. Some people feel that they're naturally trapped. They're male trapped inside a female's body.

They're female trapped, and so they want to... Whatever. I don't... I ain't got nothing to do with me. I don't care. Listen, I want to make sure I'm looking down the barrel of this one. i don't care i don't care i listen i want to make sure i'm i'm going to look to make sure i'm looking down down the barrel of this one yes sir i don't care what you want to be right i don't care what you identify as you can a laptop a tree a lamp male female ain't got nothing to do with me i'm not here to try to live your life that's what you want to be right and you're not harming anyone take off with it yeah but we're talking specifically about this case it's reported

that she her body the same as castor's amenity if you go look it up she's a two-time 800 meter champ her body she's born if i'm not mistaken um born with an additional x chromosome. It's rare. It's extremely rare. I don't know if it's one in 10 million, one in 15 million, I don't know the probability or the likelihood of it happening, but it happens. And the question is

that when they have these doctors and they're talking about these rights for the trans people and whatever, they ask very specific questions and all the and all the senators and all the the the the representatives ask can this person bear children does this person have a period can Can they get a period? Yes, sir. If the answer to both of those are yes, what is it?

She's a she. If she can do those two things. But now they say, well, if you want to compete against the women because your body is not something that you've done to your body. What about God god because you know god made us man he made male and people that's what they say god made yeah did not god make her

like this aren't we all god's children he created us so if he created her who are we to say well if you want to compete you're a woman but if you want to compete with the women, well, this is what you're going to have to do. I refuse to. That's crazy. No. That's crazy. So if my bot, Ocho, let's just say, but I don't know, the average, I guess,

obviously your highest testosterone is when you're going through puberty. That's why you get the voice change. You see guys start getting the facial hair. So that's the highest your testosterone levels are going to be. Let's just say it's 1,500, 2,000. Let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, naturally, you got

somebody that has a testosterone of 2,000, 2,500, 3,000. And you're freakish, ungodly. Who is that? Like me. Go ahead. Like me. Who is that? me like me go ahead like me who is that uh samson you're stronger than samson yeah me go ahead okay you're stronger than samson like ocho yeah

yeah and he said well ocho you're too strong in order to participate so if you want to participate with the 10 year olds you're going to have to take these blockers to reduce the level of testosterone in your body ain't ain't happening ain't happening captain this is the way a man upstairs made me they want

the same thing and cast her some she went to the court of arbitration she lost and she's like I'm done I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take these blockers right God made me like this um I could have a child

I can get a period I can do all those things so for me it it doesn't it didn't I don't know what the hullabaloo is unless they could you stop stop with this oh she's trans based It doesn't. It didn't. I don't know what the hullabaloo is unless they can. You stop. Stop with this. Oh, she's trans based on what? Because she has a high level of testosterone when it's been proven that she has female parts. So we have other people just trying to identify her as something that she's not as far as trans entering.

Because there's a there's a there. Listen, there's an agenda here. And I agree, Ocho. I don't believe if you're born a man and then you take drugs you say you know what i want to identify as a woman you shouldn't be allowed to participate in women's sports yeah how is that fair yeah it's not it's not and even at my old ass age if i said you know what i want to be a woman and i started taking blockers what a woman gonna be able to do with me, Ocho, my big, strong, rust ass? So what do you think about a 25, 30 year old? You'd be like, you want a man, man. So, no, if that's how you want to live, I got no problem with that.

I support your right to be able to live however you want to live. As long as you're not harming anybody. But as far as participating in women's sport. Oh, hell no. Yeah. No, no. I can't rock with that. That's why I draw the line. That's why I say no.

No can do. If you want to. Man want to become a woman. A woman want to become a man. Hey, I love. I love whoever you want to be you're going to make a contribution to society take off with it yes sir but participating in men participating in women's sport after they've decided and they take whatever whatever the case may be they take these

these blockers and they take these these hormones nah oh i can't rock with that yeah all right ain't no sense in me lying i ain't finna get up here it's oh yeah no no no no no i mean i'm not participating yeah i'm curious to hear how anybody can make sense of it anyway how can anyone make sense of it a man identifying as something else outside of them what he was born for and then i'm allowing him or him her to compete in women's sports in general how can someone even agree it makes sense of that in in general i would love to hear the context in which it in which it does make sense regardless of the rules regardless of you being able to do it in general like it it just i don't know it's weird it's weird let let i mean like i said her she has like I said, I'm trying to give it to people.

I'm trying to help people understand. I'm a car enthusiast. I love cars, old school muscle cars, whether you're talking about the Hemi, whether you're talking about the Cuda, whether you're talking about the GTO, whatever the case may be, you know, the Ram Air, all that, the Camaro, Ochoa, I'm good. Yeah. all that, the Camaro, Ochoa, I'm good. When these cars come up for auction, and they'll be valued at $1 million, $2 million, $3 million, or you're talking about a GTO Ferrari

that's going for $30 and $40 and $50 million, they say the car has its original parts. The way it came off the showroom floor in 1950 and 1960 and 1970, today in 2024, the car has its original parts. The way she came out of her mother's womb, does this person have the original parts as she came out of the womb? If she does, what's the discussion?

If she has female parts, what's the discussion? If she has female parts, what's the discussion, don't y'all? I don't care if her body... No! But we gotta stop doing this, man. We gotta stop doing this. Because I don't get what goods of it.

Look, everybody has agenda on certain sides and want to push this and want to push that. I ain't trying to push nothing. I want people to live. How you want to live? You're going to make a contribution to society? Take off with that. I'm good with that.

I ain't, I told you, I don't, I stay out of people houses. I stay out of people homes. I stay out of people's bedrooms. I stay out of people's lives. You ain't, hold on. You need to be Kayla Sharp. You need to be Kiari Sharp. You need to be Kaylee.

You need to be Sterling. You need to be A-Buck. Okay, I'm in, yeah. Other than that, I ain't in your bedroom. What you do? What you go to bed as? Who you wake up with? Yeah, don't make me none. No, that ain't make me don't make me none no that ain't me don't

make i want you to be what makes you happy at the end of the day i'll tell what makes you happy right does that make you happy take off with that yeah but i think this is a very similar situation to cast a Semenya. She went through it. She had an extra white chromosome, which her body as a female produces more testosterone than a normal female body will produce. Right. But at the end of the day, could she bear children?

Does she have a monthly? Yep. So that's what the old people call it. They call it monthly. Yeah. That's all that matter. That's it. I thought that's what, hold on now. That's what the old people call it. They call it monthly. Yeah, that's all that matter. That's it. Hold on now.

That's what matters when we're arguing before one another. Can you have, God said Adam and Eve. God didn't say Adam and Steve. Okay, I get all that. But at the end of the day, I believe she's an Eve. Right. If she's an Eve, she should be able to fight against other Eves. Mm-hmm.

Or Esther, the other names, Mary, Mary Magdalene. Esther? That was in the Bible. Yes. So whoever else,

yes, whoever else born of that gender, Right. If she's of that gender, she should be allowed to participate. Mm-hmm. So that's where I'm on that um ocho i mean you could uh i i guess i'm pretty sure i think you are also like you believe that if she's a woman she should be allowed to participate in women's sports i got you you know you believe

that if she's born a woman yeah yeah most definitely. I just think it's unfair if you're born a man and you want to later on in life, you want to identify as something outside of that and then competing in women's sports. Now, that's just wrong. Yeah. That's what I'm just saying. That's flat out wrong. Just having a competitive advantage in general. It makes no sense. But it's for some reason it seems people have made sense of it.

You know, those in positions of power have allowed people to do that, to allow people to do that. But that's neither here nor there. Like you said, whatever makes you happy. That's it. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.

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Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly

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lost to Aurora's greatest athletes when I got Michael Phelps and Simone Biles. But anyway, a string of 37 in a row. She created five signature moves. 17 different women have finished second to her. Only four of them, Ross at the Worlds in 2013 Mustafa Fina

in 2014 Worlds Lee at the 2019 Worlds and Cecily Jones at the 2023 World Competition have managed to get within less than a part of her Suni Lee wins bronze with her Triumph of Floor routine

that's high think about that since I think if you go back, how many years? I think if you had to go back like 20 years, all of the all-around champions have been under the age of 20. Yeah.

I mean, you got Nadia Kovanić. I think she was the youngest. I think she won it in 76. She was 13 or 14. You had Mary Lou Retton. You had Gabby Douglas. You had Tatiana Gutsu in 92. You had Shoshanova in, what, 88?

You had Naskia Lukens. You had Suni Lee. So if you go back and look, they've all been under the age of 20. I mean, as young as 13, 14. Yeah. She's 27. Yeah.

She's 27, Ocho. That's how good. And like you said, the question is, could she potentially hell, could she potentially Ocho be in L.A. in 28? Yes.

I told you. Because if you can do what you're doing now at 27, you're definitely still going to be able to do it. Take a year off, let her body. She can take two years off. Two years is enough for her to come back. And then you have two years to prepare and get ready and get yourself get your

equilibrium right. Get back to tumbling and flipping and doing whatever it takes. It's like muscle memory i she definitely can come back in four in 2020 i mean that's crazy is that most of these women that win this title she's seven years older than eight nine i mean you think about nadia i think in 76, she had to be 13 or 14. Right. Well, think about that, Ocho. There's a 13, 14-year age

gap from when she won as opposed to, now this is her second one. I think if she's the third, maybe the fourth woman that's won multiple all around at the Olympics. I mean, she's in a class by herself. And then if you look at where she

is, her number 59, and then you got somebody else like a point and a class by herself. And then if you look at where she is, her number 59, and then you got somebody else like a point and a half up under. And then you got somebody three points up under that for the bronze. That just goes to show you how dominant it's like Katie Ledecky. Katie Ledecky finished the race

17 seconds in front of second place, Ocho. Man, she done got out of the pool. She waving. And they still swimming. They ain't touched the wall yet. I think I'm on, Ocho. Yeah.

I mean, that's how dominant Simone Biles is. So congratulations, Simone. Well done. Come back after what transpired in Tokyo and to get back on that horse and to get back in that saddle and to do it again and do it even better than you've done it before. Congratulations.

Nightcap, Ocho, and I, we take our, well, we don't have hats, but if we had hats, we salute you. We salute. Joel Embiid, who regularly has been starting for Team USA, did not see the court at all during America's 103-86 win over Sudan. Head coach Steve Kerr said, told the reporters after the game, the decision was based solely on the matchup that Embiid will start next game.

Embiid has been subject of regular criticism as a starter with a number of calls to put Anthony Davis in the starting five instead. Davis had 13 points against Zidane while Bam came off the bench and chipped in with 18. Ocho? I kind of understand. Do you like the way Coach Kerr has been manipulating his starting lineup?

Remember one game, Jason Tatum, Harry Talleyburton didn't play. The next game, Joel Levine didn't play. Are you okay? Are you results based all you care about is the gold medal listen I care about the gold medal but now I have a better understanding on why

Kerr is doing what he's doing so the matchups the game you needed smaller players now when they played Serbia they had somebody down in the post, somebody big, somebody of size. So it made sense to have Joel Embiid on the floor.

Now, when they played South Sudan, they had smaller players. So you had more wings, you know? And I think defensively, I think Joel Embiid might have been a liability. Might have been a liability on the court, you know, them not being able to play well with him there because of the personnel that they were playing against. So I kind of understand it from that perspective. And I'm sure there was a conversation before the game was had with Embiid. And I'm sure the same thing. Now, I'm not sure who they play.

Who are they playing next? I forgot who they're playing next. I don't know. Lithuania? Who do they play, Ash? I'm not sure either. Yeah, but Joel Embiid is starting. Because based on the personnel and the players that they have. They play Puerto Rico.

Yeah, I'm not. They play Puerto Rico. If I'm not mistaken, South Sudan just beat Puerto Rico, if I'm not mistaken. Real? Yeah. This game? Yeah. Embiid is back and he's playing.

Why is he playing I'm sure Puerto Rico has a big they have somebody 60 left maybe they definitely don't got nobody seven foot

but I'm sure they got somebody and it fits based on the personnel and who they playing right you know and the thing is

is that Joel Embiid but here's the thing Ocho with no three second call hell just put Joel Embiid in the paint throw it down to him

and let him turn around and draw fouls or land in the basket like you do in a NBA game you can do that you can do that you do it all game you can do it all game

if you wanted to yes yes so you at the end of the day as long as we bring back the goal you're not really concerned about

who plays or how much they play because at the end of the day the end result is what matters right yeah team men's uh the u.s national team win the gold medal i think steve kerr has a very difficult job but one it is all the players they want to play i'm representing my country i want minutes i want to go i want to participate i want to play. I'm representing my country. I want minutes. I want to go. I want to participate. I want to contribute to helping us win gold. But I think there's conversations that are had before it gets to the media with Jason Tatum.

I'm sure there was conversations had with Halliburton. I'm sure there was a conversation had with Joel Embiid with an understanding of tactics and game plan based on who we're playing. You might not get as many minutes as you want based on the personnel and who we're playing against no i don't think he might have had that conversation with him be but i don't believe they had that conversation with jason tatum because jason tatum jason tatum wouldn't have said it would have been humbling because he would have known ocho if they come and tell you ocho you're not playing today, that's one thing. You dressing out with the expectation of playing and you don't play is something entirely different. Yeah, I don't know. For some reason, I just really don't really think he just didn't know.

I think he just said all the right things once the mic was in front of him. But you, Kurt, had to have some type of conversation with him, man. Come on. We going into a game of that magnitude and your coach ain't communicating. You know what? You might not play. Oh, well, KD got the hot hand. Okay, LeBron's playing well.

Steph is playing well. You know what? We don't want to take KD out because he has a hot hand. There had to be something said. what? We don't want to take KD out because he has a hot hand. There had to be something said. Something had to be said for him to sit on that bench that entire game. All four quarters.

Of the man that's on that roster this year, there's only one first team All-NBA selection. That's Jason Tatum. and he didn't play a minute if you don't think i don't care what you so you think you think let me ask you a question tell me the wide receiver that you can go to and say you know what even if it's all-star even if it's a the pro bowl game back then. Guys wanted to play.

Hey, man, I ain't come all the way over here to fly 12, 10 hours. Oh, yeah. Hey, throw me the ball. I don't agree with it at all because he was visibly upset. You know, I told you that. I don't agree with it. And people are like, oh, he don't care nothing about that. Bro, that man, he listed Ocho. Let me tell you how you know he cared

because he listed it he what did he tell you ocho he won the title got a big contract he on the cover of 2k yeah sports illustrated he said it so don't you don't take my words he's speaking right i ain't japano i ain't moving pinocchio he's speaking. Right. I ain't Geppetto. I ain't moving Pinocchio. He's speaking for himself. He told you. Yeah. He said, I ain't going to lie.

It's very humbling. Yeah. Very, very humbling. Listen, I wasn't even in a situation. Shoot, I felt bad just looking at his face. His facial expressions on the bench. It said it all. It said it all.

It's because, like I said, Ojo, it's not, you're talking about one of the best players. You're talking about one of the best players. Yeah. Hold on. Think about this, Ocho. We've been having a conversation, me, you, and Gil. The next face of the NBA didn't play a minute. And everybody's talking about, that's okay.

Think about what that is, Ocho. The next face, a lot of talking about, that's okay. Think about what that is, Ocho. The next face, a lot of people say, he got next. Face of the NBA did not play a minute. And they won by 26. All the people that's saying that it didn't matter, ain't never been involved with sports.

Because when you put that kind of time in, because the more time you put in, Ocho, the more effort you put in, the more it hurts. When things don't go accordingly. Right. You think that man gave up his summer to go sit on the bench halfway across the country? Right.

Of the world? Come on, people. Sometimes y'all just, I be looking at y'all comments and y'all just say stuff. Y'all really do. Y'all just say stuff. Y'all really do. Y'all just say stuff. But as an athlete,

as Ocho, and I can attest to, and I'm not saying I'm the player, I'm not saying I'm the equivalent football player as Jason Tatum as the basketball player. That issue would have bothered me. Yeah.

Ocho. It would have bothered anybody that's a competitor in general. Especially on the biggest stage of them all. Yes! Come on, man. That's all I'm saying. We go from saying this man got next.

He could potentially be the face of the NBA. Oh, I don't know about that part, but okay. No, Ocho, we was having a discussion. Who is it going to be? It's going to be Jason Tatum. It's going to be Ant-'s gonna who's it gonna be it's gonna be jason tatum it's gonna be a ant man it's gonna be john moran we we live now jaw jaw ant could be the face of the league but jason tatum doesn't have the cachet and the the personality and the aura and the that there's a certain it factor that you have to have to be the face of nba and he does he just he's great in all he does.

The accolades, the resume, it speaks for itself. NBA champion, but there's something missing. I don't know how to explain it. I can't put it in words. You know what I'm talking about. And become a champion. Yeah, but I'm saying many people believe that he has what he takes. It's more to it than that.

Name a face of the NBA that wasn't a champion. Let's run down the face of the NBA. Okay, you had Bird Magic. You had Jordan. You had Kobe. Look at Michael Jordan. Look at Kobe. Look at the personalities.

Look at the attitude. Look at the aura, the way they carry themselves. He doesn't even fit. He's not even close to them. But what did they have? I understand what you mean, but you need more than just that to be the face of the NBA. I don't know if you can... Where people gravitate towards you and the energy you bring.

I can see an Ant-Man. Everybody would gravitate towards that. A John Moran. Not without a championship. Okay. Because that's where they placed him now. Now they make you now. All right. Now they make you less, Ocho.

What we've done, what we've done is like, we make you less than if you don't have a title. Because title's everything. Right? Why you playing, Shannon? Why you playing, Ocho? If the title ain't the most important. I know what you're talking about.

We talking about the face of the NBA, though. We talk and what it takes to be that. You can't say all those that have won a title have a different it factor that they have within them. You're born with that. There's nothing wrong with Jason Tatum. He just doesn't have that Kobe. He don't have that Michael Jordan. He don't have that magic.

I don't really know how to put it into words, but I'm sure the chat understands exactly what I'm talking about. Great player. How about this? So, if Tom Brady, Pat Mahomes, Peyton Manning,

are they the same? I mean, complexion-wise, yeah. No, they're not. Wait, wait, wait. Mahone got a little tan to him. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, they're the same, but then you would have to digest and dive in statistically

to separate them. No, I'm talking about as face of the NFL. Oh. Look at Brady's demeanor. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at Tom Brady's demeanor yeah yeah it kind of all the same you know and remember when you're the face of the nfl of the quarterback you got to carry yourself a certain way now what i want to tell you is you know tom brady off the field don't you yes no paid manning off the field don't you we do yeah

we do they don't and they ain't nothing like what they get to see. But that's the thing. How they identify. We get to see sides of guys that nobody else gets to see. When we go out and we see them, that's different. Right. Think about this. Magic Johnson, what you see

is what you get. Right. Kobe Bryant, what you see is what you get. That ain't no act. Michael Jordan, you already know. What you see is what you get. Kobe Bryant, what you see is what you get. That ain't no act. Michael Jordan, you already know. What you see is what you get. They haven't won an NBA championship. I'm just talking about people that are so,

so charismatic, so exciting to watch that could possibly be the face of the NBA. No championship. I'm speaking on jaw. I'm speaking on ant man. They have this certain

factor that you can't coach, you can't teach, as opposed to making someone the face of the NBA that doesn't have that cachet, that doesn't have that oomph to be that and force it on us because they won an NBA title. It just doesn't fit because

the... I don't know how to explain it the right way or find the words the the conjure up i know the chat know what i'm talking about i just i just can't can't piece it together like i want to no no ultra i don't want you to think right that a championship is the only thing but i'm saying if you listen to jordan talk if you listen to kobe talk you listen to the other greats talk yeah there's like you do you build a brand right when first brand will come right now it everybody ain't gonna be like magic you ain't coming in to win an ncaa title be most outstanding player and then come straight into the NBA, win another title.

Bird won in his second year. Most guys have to wait three, four, five years in order to win a title. These guys got right at it right away. But they went to a really good team. Kareem was on that team. Kareem was the MVP, Magic's rookie year. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was the MVP of the league.

So what's the likelihood of the number one overall pick going to a team and that year, that guy's going to be the MVP, the best player? Right. I got a question for you.

Matter of fact, speaking of, now you know I don't watch much basketball, but I've gotten much better with my knowledge of the game because I've been paying attention throughout the entirety of the season.

Remember when Zion Williamson came in the league? Yes. And they were making him the one up next to be the face of the league? Yeah, he could be the face. To be the next guy? Yes. See what I mean? Yes.

Now, Zion has that it factor. He has that personality in a sense. He has a certain aura and all that. He has the crib, but yeah, he the foot. Yeah. He has all the in a sense. He has a certain aura and all that. He has all the intangibles it takes if he was able to stay healthy. Right. He could have been that guy, but

let me ask you, for the sake of argument. Yes, sir. Go ahead. I'm going to say this. If Zion stays healthy and he wins, what's the likelihood? And he doesn't win a championship. What's the likelihood of him being the face of the NBA if he doesn't win a championship?

It wouldn't be good. But you know what? Because he's so exciting to watch. Because he's so exciting to watch. That's must-see TV. Yeah. Think about this. Let's say you take

Jason Tatum, right? Yes. You take Jason Tatum and his game and his style of play and you ask people would a healthy John Marant, a healthy Anthony Edwards,

or a healthy Zion Williamson and you ask them who they want to watch first or who they'd rather watch out of the four. The other three guys, they do a lot of playing above the rim.

That's not what Jason Tatum does. Thank you. Right. He doesn't shoot the three. He doesn't shoot the three ball like Steph. Because Steph was not above the rim player. But Steph was boxed because he could shoot the three. Okay.

Steph was shooting three before. When did he come to face? When was he one of the faces of the NBA? When they did what, Ocho? What did they do? Championship. I mean, do you think he was really the face of the NBA or LeBron has always been the face of the NBA?

I'm saying he was shooting threes. I'm saying he was shooting threes. He came to the league in 2008, 2009. Right. Letting it rip. Letting it rip. Yeah. Now, you know what?

Speaking of face, let's talk about the influence that he's had on the game. Outside of the NBA. Oh, yeah. With the little kids. Everybody's hooking up threes. They're not even playing basketball no more. They're not even playing basketball no more they're not even they're not even playing fundamental

basketball no more because of the influence that Steph Curry has shooting the three 30 feet 20 feet the goddamn logo they can't shoot the ball with two hands Ocho they throwing it but it's a three Ocho they can't

they so little they can't shoot it with two hands, Ocho. They throwing it. But it's a three-ocher. They can't. Hey, look, kids. Look, kids. You know, they can't shoot it with two hands. They throwing it with one hand. Right. But that's what Steph has done. Yeah, yeah. I mean, taking nothing away from Jason Taylor.

Oh, I love it. But listen, phenomenal player. Phenomenal player. All NBA. Now an NBA champion. He has the monkey off his back. But, I mean, just what I think, and I could be wrong. I'm not sure if the chat agrees with me or not.

He doesn't have the personality. Let's start there. You know, when that mic is in front of him, imagine this. Give Jason Tatum Anthony Edwards' personality. Oh, my God. Charisma, yeah. Give him Anthony Edwards' charisma. It's over.

Yeah. It's over. Right. It's over. It's over. It's over. He doesn't have that something's missing. My grandma used to say that. Baby, I don't know what's wrong with her, but it's just something is missing. Still great at what he does.

Yes, and it's hard. I think it's hard to be the face when you're not he's not thought of as the best player because he didn't win the finals mvp he didn't win i mean he's won the eastern conference most valuable player before but in the title run jb won it so how do you say somebody is the face and that's's what Kobe was up against. Kobe was up against Shaq. He had Shaq on his team. Kobe was sensational.

Kobe was averaging down to 30 wins, Shaq. Oh, I'm glad you just said that. Hold on. You just said JB name. Shaq. Now I've watched enough basketball, I could be wrong. Is Jason Tatum even the best Celtic on his team?

Or is it Jalen Brown? You know what? Come on now. Chad, I'm asking you. Now help me. Help me get my knowledge up. So I don't sound like no fool. But I know what I watched in the playoffs.

I could be wrong. I think, honestly, Ocho, for the longest time, I was under the impression that Jalen Brown was the more athletic, JT was the better player. Now, some will say JB is getting the benefit of not getting the double teams thrown at him. And he's working a lot of one-on-ones right where jt is having to go through the double team and getting the nation getting everybody's best defender but it's gonna

be hard for me to disagree with your what you're thinking okay okay what you watched and you watch these two grow yeah and guys look you do look like we're like when we have a conversation, it's not to try to break them up. You can't break them up. We just have to. Because they just, yeah, we're just having a discussion. That's all. Yeah. I mean, we, I mean, I'm trying to think who had, I'm trying to think, Ocho, who had like two like box office receivers on the set.

It's like when you had Torrey Holt, Nye, and Bruce. Ooh. And how's it going. Or you had Jimmy and Kenan. I mean, Jimmy was the guy. We know what Reverend Ike did, but Torrey Holt was making a

big game Torrey Holt with $1,500 every year. Yeah. But you see the work and i'm not saying to say here thank you like when you give somebody what credit you're like oh so you said right no i'm just saying this i can see the work that jb has put in to get to where he's yeah i remember at first he was just that he was just athletic right and i can play a lot of plays

on athleticism. You know, some stuff, what I kept hearing, watching Twitter, trying to get knowledge of the game up, he ain't even got no damn left hand. What you mean he can't go left? I'm watching games to see if he can go left. Well, hell, he was going left, and when he went

right, they still couldn't stop it. I mean, I don't know. Man, they're looking. If the guy ain't got Steph Curry, Kyrie handles, he ain't got no handles. Damn. Who got handles like that? Ain't nobody got handles like that. Y'all make it seem like everybody got Kyrie handles.

They don't. Or Rob Strickland or Jason Williams. Oh, my God. Isaiah. Everybody don't have handles like... So, you want... So, in other words, you wanted God to give LeBron James

his height, his size, his durability, shoot the ball like Steph, and handles like Kyrie. How fair is that? So, just imagine if God would have gave Patrick Mahomes

the ability to run the ball like Lamar Jackson. Or like Michael B. How is that fair, Ocho? Ain't fair at all. Or Michael B. How is that fair, Ocho? How is that fair? He gave Tom Brady the ability to run the ball like Cam Newton. His ability to throw just like his.

He's still Brady throwing the ball, but he can run the ball like Cam. It wouldn't be fair. No! No! No! Just like it would would you give Tyreek I mean just imagine if man Randy

well Randy and Tyreek is the same speed but give Randy Moss the right now like think about Tyreek is fast right now imagine if Randy didn't have to pick up speed where he got when he hit top speed. Yeah. The long stride was gone and he hit top speed right away.

Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. When, you know, when Randy went with CeCe, with Chris. Yeah, Minnesota, yeah. Yeah. And Reed in the slot. Jake Reed, yeah.

Jake, yeah. No, Chris. Chris went to the slot. Right. And they had Reed in the slot. Jake Reed, yeah. Jake, yeah. No, Chris went to the slot. Right. Jake went outside the numbers. Chris worked the slot, yeah. But it's great. Look, at the end of the day, as long as they come back, when we come back with two gold medals in basketball.

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Ooh. Wait, look, i should take advantage of that with olympic got two more weeks right yeah i mean i could make some home videos with with the missus we could we could send them on in i don't know how much i could probably bring in there two weeks i didn't work i guarantee you can't nobody beat me i'm gonna finish first i guarantee y'all be pretty first i bet you that I bet you that Hey I could I could create

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that are that are looking for stuff let me let me write this down again The range Ocho the range would be crazy I mean

I could be Usain Bolt and Hockam El Garouche I can win the 100 meters and the 1500 meters you know what I'm saying I go I'm with you when you're right I'm with you when you're right

and I can go the distance yeah I'm with you when you're right listen I could and I could do just about anything especially with that venom you know I got that I got that wonder and spider venom

oh yeah yeah that spider that spider yeah I got that spider yes sir hey hey hey what was that report at that people really searching for that got it Yeah, I got that spider. Yes. Hey, where was that report at?

People really searching for that? That's dope. Excuse me, it's not dope, but I'm just saying it's amazing the industry. You know that's a billion dollar industry? That's a billion dollar industry. That's crazy for something that's natural

and that's human nature it might have got fed off of me laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing

laughing laughing No, man. But, no, I mean, just because you're at the game, that don't mean, okay, you have to suppress your desires. Right, right. Because, like you said, that's a lifetime. And some people, like, they said that's a lifetime and some people like they feel that's going to take their legs that's going to you know make make them lose focus or whatever the case may be you can't play you you know better than that the cardinal rule number

one when you when you're in school you don't have sex before a game you don't have sex because it gives you spaghetti legs you want to be as as strong and stout as possible. He gave me spaghetti something else, but legs wasn't it. I wasn't running on that leg. I don't know what you're talking about, Ocho. But man, that hands up was my best game.

Nah, boy. I ain't play that, boy. I ain't play that. I just... No, no, no, no. I ain't play that, boy. I ain't play that. I just... You didn't? No, no, no, no. Saturday. What?

You know, Saturday, we in the hotel anyway. But even if we had a home game... Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, depending who I was dating at the time, if they were in town,

listen, this week, nothing. I'm going to catch you Monday, Tuesday, and once Wednesday hit, you know, Wednesday, that's... Oh, no, I'm done. I'm done with you.

I'm going to catch you on Monday, too. You catch me after the game, Sunday, Monday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday... No I'm done. I'm done with you. I'm going to catch you on Monday, too. You catch me after the game, Sunday, Monday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. No, I can't do nothing after the game because I'm going to cramp up. I ain't going to be no good to you. Oh, nah. I'm going to lock up, man. I can't do nothing after the game. I know what you're talking about.

I remember the days. Man, I couldn't do nothing after the game. I ain't never do nothing after the game. Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. That's it. The rest of the week, I'm off. I'm off. Don't even ask.

Don't even ask. Don't even try. Ain't no point even coming in town. Nothing. Nathaniel. Come on in town. Well, you better than me. I ain't play that during the week. I might not have had no discipline when it came to eating. I might

have been eating McDonald's and I might have had the worst diet in the world. But when it came to eating I might have been eating McDonald's and I might have had the worst diet in the world but when it came to that discipline all the feel and just no locking in and being focused as far as on my craft and stuff man I don't care who you think

man Willie been locked up man you remember when you see that movie Free Willie I really will jump down that cliff yeah nah I ain't had Man, Willie been locked up. Man, you remember when you see that movie Free Willie? I really, Willie jumped out that movie. Yeah, nah. I ain't had me. Free Willie? Man, they don't tell you what you could have done, don't you?

Yes. You probably left about 3,000 yards on the field. It ain't because of that. It wasn't because of that, don't you? Nah, it wasn't. Nah, it definitely wasn't because of that don't you know i would not i would definitely want because of that but i i was i'm not gonna call it a superstition it just i just nah i ain't i ain't i remember hearing that back in high school man remember my coach man coach coach jim crow all right we got a game saturday do your best to your girlfriend nothing you want your legs strong you don't want them weak and it just stuck with me yeah well you know coach what did everything you say coach say hey look here hey that was a great week of practice yeah the haze in the barn yeah i want you to go home

get off your feet she's gonna be off her feet too coach Hey, look here. Hey, that was a great week of practice. Yeah. The haze in the barn. Yeah. I want you to go home. Get off your feet. She's going to be off her feet too, coach. Man, you don't get off your feet. They're going to be off their feet too, man. But you know, hey, the family come in town and say, look, I know the family going to come in town. And your wife and your girlfriend are going to want you going all over and your mom and your mom-in-law.

Hey, just tell them you can't go. You know, you can't go, Ocho. I mean, you know, people going to be wanting to go to the movies. I mean, you know. Oh, them days. I can't believe you, Ocho. You were terrible, man. Hey, them was some good days

them was some good days don't you yeah you done go to the movies saving private Ryan yeah you ain't gonna see private Ryan yeah

yeah classic I don't even remember what year that came out but I know I saw it in the movie 98 I know I saw it in the movie matter of fact 98

yeah I was at wait 96 right 96 yeah I was a sophomore I was a sophomore I was at I was at Santa Monica matter of fact right, 96, yeah, I was a sophomore, I was a sophomore, I was at, I was at Santa Monica,

matter of fact, matter of fact, guess who theater I went to go see it? I remember now. Where? Magic Johnson, Magic Johnson Theater. Magic Johnson Theater?

Magic Johnson City, yeah, because at that time, I was dating this chick named Roxy. Yeah. She might even see this. Roxy, she stayed in the jungles.

She stayed in the jungles in the third building because my mama was in LA at the time. This was when I wasles in the third building because my mama was in LA at the time. This was when I was at Santa Monica College. Mama was in LA at the time. I saw Saving Private Ryan. It had to be Magic Johnson. It had to be because I really couldn't go anywhere else. I had to stay within the area.

Yeah, see? See, you went and saw Private Ryan. I told my girl she saw Lieutenant Big Nuts. And you remember who you was dating way back then yeah for real how do you remember way back in 1998 no no no no no no Ocho at that point in time we had broken up

so I was single then ok ok ok you still remember your partners from that long ago oh man I can tell you every girl by name. What? Every girl that I've ever dated. That's impossible. Ocho.

What, you wrote everything down? Ocho. I guarantee you, I can tell you every girl I've had sex with, damn near by name. You dead ass? That's impossible, Unc. Oh, hell nah, you bulljab, you, man, boy, you drive, you drive, you drive, you drive, you drive,

come on, man. Unc, that's impossible. Unc, I don't forget a name, a face, or an incident. Unc, I can't even fathom that's do you know how crazy that sounds from Savannah State no forget that from high school

Savannah State I can tell you every girl I can tell you name I can damn near tell you the day of the week that we had sex how do you remember that? That's, that's like, that's okay.

Okay. Okay. So I had, I only, I only, I only had sex on days to end and why? All of that. Come on, man. Listen, I ain't never heard nobody say that.

I mean, there's some I wish I could forget. They were good and terrible. I understand forget. They were good and terrible. I understand that, but the fact that you could even recall from that long ago, that is commendable. I can't remember nothing from high school.

Really? I can't remember nothing from Santa Monica College. Oh, yeah. Please. Some of them are trying to spend a block. For real? Nah, hell nah. Okay, okay, okay.

I have no high school or college, man. Hell. You just never know. You never wanted to rekindle a flame. Never mind, never mind. I don't want to get you in no trouble. But okay. Damn, that's crazy.

No. You got a great, you got good memory. Oh, yeah, for sure. Good memory. Oh yeah, for sure. Good memory. I mean, I've had women come up to me and talk about, oh, you remember me? Where I remember you from? Oh, I swear, people think I'm lying. But they come and say, oh, you know, we had sex.

I say, nah, baby. We ain't have no sex. Because I can tell you. We ain't have sex, dude. She break tell you. We ain't have sex, Dan. She break it down, no? No. Oh, they be lying. They be lying.

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay. I mean, I'm sure had I not become who I became, Right, right. they would have never came up to me and said that. Anything, right. But because, and I guess they done

told their girlfriends or they told somebody. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Even on some of them, oh, yeah, your boy. And look here. When I say I was hell.

When I was well. When I was well. Right. Vegas. When they say, hey, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas? Yeah. Boy. OJ.

Yeah. See, I don't. I didn't. Maybe I missed out. You missed out. That's why I'm saying I don't need to go nowhere. That's right. But I'm saying even in my day, in my prime years in Cincinnati,

my prime years in the offseason, I don't go nowhere. And I don't think I missed out on anything. Just like the Vegas, the trips, the DR trips. I love hearing the stories with the fellas. Oh, DR? I ain't never been to DR. I need to go. I ain't do none of that.

I ain't do none of that. Dude, even doing my prime. Video games, cigar bar, jazz club. That's it. And whoever I was dating. Like, anything outside of that, every blue moon, because of my friends I was with, and I wanted them to be able to have a good time, enjoy themselves, experience things they would never experience if they weren't friends of mine.

Every blue moon. Oh, they tell you. I don't know what it's like to go to Vegas with the fellas and have a good time. You know? I do. See, I feel like

I missed out on something. Maybe I didn't, but I enjoy hearing the stories. I love it. Here in Miami, everybody done been to booby trap. Everybody done been to club live. I done been here all my life. I ain't been to live yet. Why haven't I been to Booby Trap. Everybody done been to Club Liv. I done been here all my life. I ain't

been to Liv yet. Why haven't I been to Liv? We need to go to Liv, Ocho. We gotta go to Liv. Oh, no. Boy, you seen them prices? Absolutely not. What kind of prices? Man, man. Ridiculous. And I love... Oh, you gotta go to pay? You gotta pay to go in? I love

Dave Grutman, but I don't drink alcohol. I don't need no section. No, I don't want no section. Nah, I... Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Well, then we got to do something on your phone

before we get it kicked off. I mean, but we can go to Booby Trap. I ain't never been. I like hearing the stories about Booby Trap. You know, I heard they got good food. We can go to Tootsie's.

Now, I frequent Tootsie's all the time with Real. Me and Real go upstairs, VIP, Tootsie's, shoulder rub. I eat dinner. Listen, they got good dinner now. Shrimp fried rice, seafood rice with lobster tail, calamari on the side, cake. Look at the tail. It ain't no lobster, though. Hey, oh, so we gonna do something before we... Yeah, I'll swing through. You coming to Miami?

I'll come to Miami. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I got somebody. Ocho, that tail. Look, look at here. Look at here, Rhea. Rhea! Come here.

What's up, Rhea? I'm coming to Miami. Me and Ocho will hit the town. I'm going to take you out, because he don't go outside. See, I told you. He don't go outside. I don't go nowhere. Well, you're going to be outside. Yeah, I'm going to go this time. It's like it's a fella trip.

She just trying to stay in the V. No, no, no. Real bait. Real bait. We got this face. No, no, no. Rel bait. Rel bait. Rel bait. No, no. This. We got this face. No, no, no. Rel bait.

That's my uncle. You know, she goes, who is that, Rel? That's my uncle. Okay, okay, okay. No, I'm the matchmaker, though. I'm the matchmaker. Let Rel work her magic.

Look, that's my uncle. He ain't here for a long time. He here for a good time. That's who Daddy is. See what I'm saying? Hey, matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that to my matchmaker. At the gym, you know, I work out at the gym every morning.

Yeah. What area is that? Davy. In Davy. I saw somebody you would have liked. I asked, I said, Miss, I apologize. I'm sorry to bother you, but are you married? She said, no, I said, Miss, I apologize. I'm sorry to bother you. But are you married? She said,

No, I'm not married. But listen, I have someone, a potential that I would like you to meet. His name is Unc. And she's like, Who is Unc? She smiled and she laughed. She obviously,

she must watch the show. I said, Shannon. She said, Oh yeah, I've met Shannon before. And she smiled and finished the workout. I swear, Hey, I swear for Shannon before. And she smiled and finished the workout. I swear, I swear.

Hey, I swear for God. Hey, listen. Rest in peace. My mama, rest in peace. I swear for God. And this was just about maybe three days ago. Three days ago.

I think she might be a doctor. Might be a doctor. Looks like kind of Filipino and Asian-ish, but black as well. I don't know if you remember, if you can recall. Very cool. Very cool.

And when I mentioned your name, she lit up like a light bulb. Oh, yeah. I met Shannon. I met Shannon, you folks. She lit up. And then she went on. She had nice legs. Oh, I ain't look at.

Man, real right here. Come on. Real. Real saw. Real. You saw. How she look real. You know what I'm talking about? Nice legs. Oh, I ain't look at... Man, real right here, man. Come on, don't do this. Real. Real, Saul. Real, you saw? How she look, real? You know what I'm talking about?

The ladies at the gym, and they all... All the ladies who go to my gym, they all got nice legs. Ooh! Hey, Ocho. Yeah. You know how I like...

Ocho, you know how I like my legs? Wait, she... If my mama say she's kind of tall, like, maybe... No, I know. I say, you know how I like my legs? How you like them? Beat at the bottom,

who hard to talk. That's how I like my legs how you like them feet at the bottom who had to talk that's how I like my legs you know what I'm saying that's what I'm saying right there don't go no farther don't go no farther than that right there

Ojo hey she was cool she was cool I was like and I was respectful first because most of the people they are married right

see I said are you married she said no I'm divorced boom perfect I got somebody I got somebody I want you to meet and say as soon as I said are you married she said no I'm divorced boom perfect I got somebody I got somebody I got somebody

I want you to meet and say as soon as I said I said um she said who was um I said you know Shannon but she lit up

and smiled smiled big she turned to yeah I met I met Shannon a while ago and went on about her business oh

we international we global oh yeah we global now we global we everywhere we everywhere huh And we don't buy the business. We're international. We're global. Oh, yeah. We're global now. We're global. We're everywhere. We're everywhere. Huh?

Let me see. Hold on. Hold on. I think we found him. I think we found him. I think we found him. Hold on. Hold on.

We found him. Real found him. Yes, sir. There it is. Yup. Yup. No, tell Reza. Hey, send me the picture. I don tell him. Hey, send a picture.

I don't know. Hey, send a picture. Send it to my phone. It's her birthday. Send it to his, uh, send her Instagrams. Yeah. Hey, it's her birthday today, too. Yeah.

How do you know? How do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. It ain't that many people anyway. Okay. Yeah. All right. I got you. You owe me one for this, too, now.'t that many people anyway. Okay. Yeah. All right. I got you. You owe me one for this, too, now.

Yeah, yeah, I owe you. Yeah, let me get you back in there. I'm going to get you back in there good. You know, you boy. You know, if anything, Ochoa, I ain't. I give him a lick and a promise. I'll give him a lick today and promise I'll give you more tomorrow. That's all I got for you, Ochoa.

Nothing but a lick and a promise. I'll give you a lick today and I promise. I hit a lick today and promise I'll give you more tomorrow. That's all I got for you, Ocho. Nothing but a lick of the promise. I'll give you a lick today and I promise I'll do better tomorrow. That's all I got, baby. I got to use that. I'll give you a lick and a promise. I'll give you a lick today and I promise you better tomorrow. And promise I'll do more tomorrow. Yeah, that's all I got.

That's a good one right there. Ocho, UConn star Paige Beckers has signed a first-of-a-kind NIL deal with the new unrivaled basketball league. Her deal makes her the first college athlete. Huh? What'd you say, Ash? Oh, my bad. Okay, I missed the story.

Sorry. Katie Ledecky is weighing in on pool cardinal rule. Olympic swimmer sat down with comedian Leslie Jones for a chat about at the 2024 Summer Olympic where she was asked point blank if she ever peed in the pool. Katie is insistent that she never does. Hold up.

Is insistent that she does not pee when in the water, no matter what. But she better than me because I sold pee when in the water, no matter what. But she better than me because I sold peed in the pool when I was growing up. Yeah, you can't go to them public pools, man. Yeah, I ain't just, hey, there's a reason they put chlorine in there. Not enough. Not enough. Nah.

Listen, I ain't been to the public pool in so long I'm glad I got I got my own pool here I don't even get in that man but you know the people pee in the pool they don't drop logs in the pool

if they be floating like little submarines come on man what pool what pool they do that in people do people do do in the pool nah

nobody do in the pool maybe the babies chat chat y'all better chat y'all better tell it I ain't

I ain't never heard of that now. Yeah. In the pool? Yes. Nah, maybe. I'm talking about little kids. Yeah, but I'm saying kids. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

Sometimes. But if you were a kid, that kid probably like somewhere between 10 and 15 did some mess like that. I know grown, you know grown folk don't like to get out in the pool.

I'm thinking about, you getting out, you in the pool, you think I'm finna get out and go all the way to the bathroom and I'm already in the pool? Nah. Yeah, you gotta do that, Ocho. Don't be nasty. Nah, but I ain't

been in the pool no matter what when I was a jet, when I was a shorty. I ain't even saying lie, you know? Yeah, I ain't been to it. Man, I ain't been to it. Man, I ain't been in a pool. Ooh, Lord, I'm trying to think when the last time I actually been in a pool.

I can tell you the last time I been in a pool. Olympic-sized pool at Charles Hadley Park. And that's been years. Years. I tell you what, last time I been in a pool... Probably about 92. God damn. can't you even my brother had a pool party remember i told you oh yeah daytona yeah she can't die you know i've hit so yeah that was it can you think you can still swim it's been as long as well yeah for sure okay oh yeah because we are like we used to have a thing.

If you went to Savannah State, you know about Orange Crush. And I think they try to relive it now. But a dude had a boat. I was the only one that could swim out to the boat because the boat could only come so close to the water. Right, right, right. Because it'd get grounded. So I was really the only one that could swim out to the boat, get in the boat. You know, we... Then I'd jump out, swim back to shore?

Yeah, I could swim, for sure. Okay, okay, okay. But no going, no peeing in the pool. Nah. Okay, again, UConn star Paige Beckers has signed a first-of-a-kind NIL deal with the new Unrival Basketball League. Her deal makes her

the first college athlete with ownership, equity, and a professional league. She will also play in the Unrivaled League as well as the WNBA after her college career ends. Unrivaled is a three-on-three women's basketball league that will begin play in January of 2025 and was founded by WNBA stars Breonna Stewart and Nafisha Collier. It will feature 30 players on six teams and a three-on-three compressed full court style of play. The league

wants to give players a domestic alternative to play in the WNBA offseason. What do you think, Coach? Yeah, I like that. Giving the ladies the outlet so they don't have to travel all the way overseas to be able to recoup some of the income that they're missing out on and give them the chance to do that. And stay home is perfect.

I think it's a great idea. I think it's a great idea for them having to travel all the way across the water. Oh, yeah. You know, you stay here and you can enjoy this leave. Didn't she sign a Nike deal? Didn't she get a Nike deal also? Wait, while she was still in college? You could do that?

I think she got it. Don't she have her own Nike shoe thing, Ash? Okay, okay. Yeah, the Nike deal, yeah. Okay. That's dope, that's dope, that's dope. I like that. I like that.

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