Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Ja Morant's Gun gesture, Giannis makes history, Lou Williams two girlfriends at games

Episode Date: April 5, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best hoops stories of the week, including Ja Morant’s gun gesture again, Giannis making NBA history, Lou Williams Brought Both Girlfriends to Games, & much more!Timeline:04:14 - Ja Morant finger guns aftermath13:24 - Giannis Antetokounmpo makes history25:30 - Lou Will brought two girlfriends to games42:32 - Embiid Knee Surgery44:44 - Anthony Edwards’ baby mother addresses child support payment52:52 - Kiki Rice joins the show(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Buddy Hill and Jarvin Rant was warned by the NBA about the finger gun situation. But, but again tonight, Ja hit the game winner. Man, you know who he beat? Beat the Heat. Joe, if you could, if you could look, as a veteran playing 17, 18 years in this league,

if you had an opportunity to sit down with Ja and impart some wisdom upon him, what would you tell him? I'd tell him, Ja, come, come, come spend some time with me. What would you tell him? I'd tell him, Jha, come spend some time with me. Come get in this hot yoga room, and we're going to zap all that

energy up out of you. It ain't going to be none of them. We ain't going to be fired no more than we're going to get you right. I think that's kind of what the NBA is lacking, honestly. Their veteran presence that can help these young guys because nowadays, you got guys getting drafted and they go on the teams and

Ja is the guy who they're looking up to. Ja 23-24. He 23-24 and these are the guys who your young guys are looking up to and emulating and want to be like. I think you got to have older guys in there, man, who can really teach these dudes

the ropes, show them how to be pros on and off the floor. Yes, sir. Yeah. Hey, Joe, do you think obviously you think about players like that, that are young, like a jaw and some of the other players that are around the league? Do you think trying to tone down some of the some of the mannerisms, some of the extracurricular activity and things they like to do on the court, do you think that it will take away from their game and what makes them them? Being that he's so young and he can resonate with the rest of the youth, you think that would take away some of that, some of that, that, that would make Ja Ja in general? Yeah, no, I love it. I know they probably going to try to ban some of the stuff,

but I love the antics and the celebrations and things like that. So I think that's kind of what makes the game. That's what fans love to see. It's just like in football. When guys score, they love to see the dancing and teams come together, the good camaraderie of teams. And fans enjoy watching that. You know, they don't want to just see a boring game.

They want to see the excitement that comes with it. So I hope they don't eliminate or give technical fouls for all the excessiveness. Some of it is kind of warranted, but, man, I ain't going to lie, Ocho, some of this stuff, you're kind of getting out of hand, man. I watch a lot of AAU basketball.

I got an AAU program myself. And, man, these kids, as soon as they hit one shot, they shooting at your head. Every time I hear this phrase, I'm like, hey, hey, hey. They spreading the whole building down, Ocho. Hey, hey, hey, they spreading the whole building down, huh,

Joe? Hey, hey, man, listen, they shooting up the whole gym. So,

it's, I love to see the fire in them and the competitive nature that comes with it, but some of the antics,

yeah, they start fights, bro. They start fights. They ain't playing. Okay, okay. Yeah.

Because, oh, Joe, what do the younger people see? Because think about it. All these kids now do, all they do now is shoot threes. They saw Steph guys seven years old.

They launching it. The same thing with the NFL. Whatever they see in the NFL, they see the gritty. They see hey, Ocho, remember they outlawed the throat slash. You had kids in the high school, young kids, throat slashing. So this is the same thing. These kids, they want to emulate that. They want to be that.

And so the NFL and the sports league said, nah, we don't, you know, we ain't trying to set that precedent. We want you to have fun. And I get it to a certain extent, but sometimes I think the players do go overboard. I think they got a responsibility because these young kids look up to them.

You selling shoes. You selling merch. You selling things. You say, hey, I want you to support me. I want you to be blah, blah, blah. But then when we do that, ah, nah, don't do that. Nah, them kids be bought all the way in. Everything you do, everything you wear, how you talk, what you do,

they follow that. Yeah. And Ja is polarizing, man. He ultimately could have been or could be the poster boy of the NBA, and kids gravitate toward that. Like, don't say his shoes, his clothes, how he wears hair.

Like, man, I see these kids now with their dreads back up in a little ponytail jump. Like, man, listen, these people, they think they Jai out here. And because he – the reason why they like Steph, because you see Steph like them. Steph like a regular man. Steph 6'2".

That can be Steph. Jai 6'2". I can't be LeBron. Man, I ain't finna be no 6'9". I ain't finna be no Shaq. I ain't finna be no Jokic. But I can be Jai. I can really grow up to be 6'2". I ain't finna be no Shaq. I ain't finna be no Jokic. But I can be Jock. I can really grow up to be 6'2".

I can be Steph Curry. So that's why a lot of times people gravitate towards the smaller guys because they see themselves. I can be that. That's why Jordan and Kobe, the smaller guys, they seem to resonate. Ain't nobody say, man, I want to be Shaq. I want to be Jokic. I want to be

Kareem. Why you think don't nobody throw the sky hook? The most unstoppable shot that's ever been created, and ain't nobody basically threw it since he threw it. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, you got all these trainers out here taking these kids through drills. Don't nobody teach them how to shoot no sky hook, man, over their left

shoulder. Hey, hey, they ain't teaching that. Nope. They teaching that. That twing, twing, sidestep ha ha catch that yeah hey that's what it is yeah i i i uncle joe i i think i i like it i understand exactly where y'all coming from but when you got players like anthony edwards players like john marant i mean steph is a little different just the way he carries himself when you look at the individual's background and uh the image that they try to, there's a reason why they're special when they play the game of basketball. There's a certain way that they carry themselves.

There's a certain group that they try to emulate or a certain cachet and way that they carry themselves. And they want to keep that same that same that or when they play the game play the game of basketball and all i was saying is there's some things you can eliminate that they do in game yeah i just don't want to take too much away from them that makes them who they are there's a certain it factor with anthony edwards and the jamaran that makes them who they are and i think if you take too much and try to tone them down too much it takes away from their game in general and what they bring.

I agree. And it's going to kind of dull it down a little bit and make it less watchable. I mean, they say the game, they say the basketball game has been struggling, but, you know, our stars have been performing. We just got to keep them on the floor. And you remember, think about it. Well, who do the kids love?

The guy that had a big, no, I don't, it's hard to say somebody had a bigger impact than Allen Iverson. Allen Iverson was the first one to start wearing the sleeve all well. Not damn near everybody wore the sleeve. Allen Iverson, you couldn't go to the store and buy a 5X t-shirt because he had a bottle ball. He the one that bought the jeans.

And you couldn't find no 40 jeans because he had them on his ass. He was the one that trained. They trained the dress code because of him. Because he was coming. Oh, man. Hey, look. You ain't lying. You ain't lying.

Hey, I had me a few of them tall tees, too. But, boy, look. I remember when the league changed the dress code. Man, look. We used to come to the plane in sweats, flip-flops, shorts. Man, it took all of the way. You had to come in there suited and booted. I was like, oh, my God.

Hey, guys, show them. Hey, Joe, you remember that couple of do-rags? They had the do-rags on the tall tee. I'm like, David Stern said, all these corporate sponsors, all this money we spent, y'all finna clean this issue up. Right. Hey, Stern wasn't going.

He got everybody. Hey, I saw Tim Duncan come pick clean this issue up. Right. Hey, Stern wasn't going. He got everybody. Hey, I saw Tim Duncan come pick his MVP trophy up with flip-flops and shorts on. Hey, I remember those days, bro. I remember those days. Those were good times, man. Hey, it kind of went. It kind of got back to that. Yeah, all the guys were not coming.

They used to. There was a time that, you know, suit, suit, suit. But, you know, you see guys still coming with some sweat. Ant-Man said, look here, I ain't spending no money on it. Hey, I get all this free gear, or I'm going to wear it. Yeah, I'm going to wear it. You do it. After the game, John called.

Right, he do his whole thing. Kiel Ware, a pigeon on national television. Taylor Rooks asked Ja, tell me everything about that last possession. Ja said, a pigeon was guarding me. Go get a bucket and win the game. Hey, Ja, Ja got it chilled. Hey, Kiel Ware, that's my guy.

He's from the crib. He's from Little Rock. Hey, we ain't going to act like that. Don't act like that. Don't act like that. Hey, it was a great shot. Kiel Ware played great defense. It was a great shot. Kel-El played great defense. It was a great shot.

He made a tough shot, man. Gave him a credit. But I'll tell you what. I'm going to tell you what I think happened in that game. The LeGuard was pestering him and impressing him so much. The LeDonovan hit. Yeah. It kind of turned John to the point where he was trying to make a point.

And he kind of turned it on and kind of got it going. You know what I mean? Yeah. He definitely got it going in the second half. He got it going in the second half. Yeah, he turned Ja'on. Yeah, because he said they were bored of him. They were bored of him and kind of got to him.

Because I think he had like 27 points in the second half. And obviously, he hit the game winner. So, that was exciting. The Bucs are coming up a win against Tuesday in which they shot 69% from the field which was the highest in an NBA game since 1998 and the 58% and almost 59%

from the three-point range. Is there anybody, honestly Joe, is there anybody really, as well as Giannis has played, Cleveland has been the best team in the East record-wise but is there anybody in the East that can challenge Boston? Nah. Nah. But I'll tell you what,

to start the season, I had the Bucs making some noise, man. I know it's been unfortunate with Dane going out, with the calf injury, the blood clot thing. And man, we can't expect these type of numbers from Giannis every night, man.

Man, he played out his mind tonight. And them other guys around him stepped up. They had to step up and make plays. I mean, since he had... Oh, man. And you know in the postseason, they don't let you get up and down. And Giannis, he likes to get up and down.

He sees a crack. Yeah. Hey, Giannis is like a roach. He see a crack, he going to slide through it and get away from you so you can't squash him. Every time. Hey, in the playoffs, boxing elbows, baby. You're going to have to pass that thing.

If them boys going to make eight to nine threes together, okay, we gonna live with that. But you think you finna get to this rim and have a dunk fest all night? We are not going. Because you know when somebody has 20 assists, there are a lot of shots being made. A lot of shots being made. Yeah. And I think

everybody chipped in tonight. They had a bunch of guys in double figures who made quite a few threes. So obviously Giannis had it going if he had 35 points, 20 assists. And how many rebounds? He probably had about 18, 19. 17 rebounds. Mm-hmm. Hey, Ojo, them 2K numbers right there, baby.

Yeah, it is. Matter of fact, I'm going to go back to something you just said earlier, right, real quick, and it just dawned on me. You said out the east there's no threat for the Celtics at all. Well, if there's no threat for the Celtics, basically you're saying they're going back to the NBA Finals. Basically. Yeah. Okay, well, if they're going back to the

NBA Finals, who do you see them facing out the West? And do they even have a threat out the West, let alone forget the East? Yeah, they got a threat out in the West, partner. Yeah, they got a threat. I like OKC, bro. Yeah, they got a threat. Who that? I like OKC, bro.

I like OKC not only because they got Shea, but because all them other dudes around them, they know their role, and they defend, man. They defend. They sit down. They sit in their chair and play defense, Ocho, and in the playoffs, that's what it's going to come down to. And what?

They're the youngest team in the NBA. 24 years. Yeah, they are. They are. Man, they're going to be getting up and down all night. Shea's going to average probably 42 minutes a game in the playoffs. Right. Out of a 48-minute ball game, he's probably barely going to sit down. They ain't going to do nothing. Unless they're blowing

them out. And you know, you try to blow somebody, you know, try to get some rest like that. But other than that, yeah, your best players play the MVP race is coming down to the wire SGA is on pace to win his first scoring title right now he's at 32.9 points a game the Thunder record 64-12

to have an outside chance to become the third team to win 70 games in the season OK needs to win out to join the 95-96 Bulls and the 2015-16 Warriors as the only teams in NBA history to win 70 or more games in the regular season. Meanwhile, Nikola Jokic, they just call him Joke, is attempting to make history becoming the third player to win four MVPs

in a five-year span. Joining LeBron 2008-2012, he went for Bill Russell, 61 through 65. Unfortunately, Yoke is not going to win the MVP, just like the first guy to average a triple-double, Oscar Robinson, didn't win the MVP in that 61-62 season. Yoke is just averaging 29.7 points a game, 12.8 rebounds a game, 10.2 assists a game, 12.8 rebounds a game, 10.2 assists a game,

and he's shooting 54% from the field and 42% from the three. And unfortunately, Joe, he's not going to win the MVP. Man, that dude is balling out of control. But I'm going to be honest with you. I love watching him play. I love how he plays at his own pace. And he makes guys around him better, too. He's a willing passer, which makes

him harder to guard because you know if you double-team, he's going to give it right up. And them dudes making shots around him. But, to be honest, my pick would be Shea, too. I enjoy watching Shea. I love his poise and patience throughout the game.

Like I say, defensively, he's always going to be tops and steals. He sits down and plays defense as well. I love both players, but if I had to vote, mine would probably be Shea. It's going to be the same situation like we go back, Joe,

being a student of the game. You go back and look at that 61-62 season. Bill Russell won the MVP, but that was the year that Wilt averaged 50-25. That was the first year Oscar had a 30-point triple-double. Jerry West averaged 30. Elgin Baylor was 30-18. You go back and look at that.

Statistically, that was the greatest offensive season on record. Go back and look at those guys and look at the numbers. You're like, hold on. And when you hear, like, we'll average, how much did he average? Oh, we'll average 50 and 25. No MVP. Oscar, 30-point trophy. He may average, hold on, 50 and 25.

Yeah, and he didn't win the MVP. Bill Russell won the MVP that season. But Jared West was like 36 and 25. And he didn't win the MVP. Bill Russell won the MVP that season. But Jared West was like 36 and 8. Who else? Elgin Baylor. Elgin Baylor averaged like 27 and 18. Walt Bellamy. I mean, the numbers were crazy.

You go look at the top six guys in the MVP race, and probably any other year, they win it. But Russell won it that year. And I think we're going to go back 25, 30 years from now, they're going to pull up Nikola Jokic's numbers, and they're going to say, ain't no way in hell. If he didn't win the MVP, who did? Right.

Because that's the conversation we're having now. Like you said, hold on. Will averaged 50 and 25 and didn't win the MVP? No. Boston, Bill Russell must have been putting Bill at the ass. They did. They won eight straight titles. So, yeah, they told everybody.

They were tearing everybody titles. So, yeah, they told everybody they were tearing everybody down. And then we'll say, y'all were playing with me. Then he came back and averaged 44-27 the next year. Just to let y'all know it wasn't a fluke. Ocho. Yeah. Joe. I remember we talked about this a couple years last year, Ocho,

is that Mello was feeling some type of way. He said because they gave the 15 to Jokic. And I'm saying, and I said, Joe, bro, they took this man in the second round, and when he got drafted, they were doing a Taco Bell commercial. They had no idea he was going

to turn out to be this because if they had that, it took his ass in the first round. You don't run the risk of this was a transcendent player and taking him in the second round if you think you're going to do anything. But, unfortunately, they're not going to remember Carmelo Ward at 15. That number belongs to Nikola Jokic. I mean, it shouldn't be. Listen, as great as Nikola's playing right now.

Hold on. I don't, I'm, you're not erasing what Carmelo did in that game. That man got three MVPs in the finals MVP. I tell you what, Joe, who wore 34? Who wore 34 in Milwaukee before Giannis? Ray Allen. Do you remember Ray Allen in 34? Oh, Joe.

Exactly. Exactly. Okay. Hey, hey, hey, hey. He was a bad boy with that 34. He was. He was. Yes. Gordon Alton. Exactly. Exactly. Hey, hey, hey. He was a bad boy with that 34. He was. Yes. Going off.

Yes. Yes. But you look at what Giannis is doing. Right. Yeah. Yeah, he done erased that. That's what I don't like about us sometimes. Sometimes we become a prisoner of the moment,

and we forget what those before us actually did. You know? And listen, I understand. I love what Joker's doing. I love it. But we talk about the other 15. We talk about that. We talk about Mr. Midrange. Huh? Ocho. Mr. Put the shoulder in your chest.

I get all that. I get all that. In 10 years, ain't nobody gonna remember that. Just like you don't remember Ray Allen wore 34 in Milwaukee because of what Giannis is doing. Do you realize what – Ocho, I don't think you realize what this man is doing. Joe, you played 18, 19 years. You know. I studied the game.

I've been following this game since 77, 78, and I know a lot of the history, what Jokic is doing. I'm sorry, Ocho. Yeah. Hey, so do y'all think the big man gonna ever come back? No. Yeah, if he can.

No, you talking about the big, no. He gotta be able to shoot the three? He gotta be like a Jokic. You gotta be one of those big. You talking about the big that just run his ass down to the block and play with his back to the basket oh hell no yeah call and call for the ball that's the game the game the game has changed that's over hey but i'm saying you know once once in a while you know every era we get a guy who come in he made you know he built a little

different from everybody else i think if you can dominate you can dominate, be the size of a seven-footer who's just unguardable down there, he'll come back. But now they don't train for it no more. Don't those guys work on their postgame for real? They all doing pick and pops, shooting threes from different spots. So the game is totally different. They don't even raise them like that no more. And think about it.

Look at Zach Eady. Man, you saw Zach Eady training. He's shooting three. He's seven-four. Look at W Eady. Man, you saw Zach Eady training. He's shooting three. He's 7'4". Look at Wimby. Wimby's 7'4 1⁄2". He's 7'5 with shoes. Yeah.

And he ain't playing with his back to the basket. It's over, Joe. Right. It's over. If you got a guy 7'5", and he ain't playing with his back to the basket, hey, he's just open. Hey, the game has changed.

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your podcasts. Go ahead, go ahead, by Lou. Both his girlfriends sat next to each other yes sir during the game oh yeah that's live that's live you're doing that you're sitting you're sitting two together who oh i mean i mean i would i would you know i would and if i was if i was in my day you know and if i was still playing like that, you know, I would. All it is is conversation and being honest and telling the truth. Because when you bring in that kind of money as an NBA player, you know, you will have those that will play like that and have a great understanding.

Now, being that I'm over the hill now, you know, and I'm working and I'm in a structured environment, you know, I can't move like that no more. But as I see fit during that time, would I be able to do it? Absolutely. Would I have two women that would be willing to do it? Absolutely. You know, and then you add,

you factor in the NBA revenue and salary that you're bringing in. How many women would decline that? Not very many. And he ain't just have just no anybody sitting next to each other, huh? These ain't just no scragglers, now. But we

talk about eight. We talk about tens. What you mean? Would you do it? Can you pull it off? Nah, I can't pull it off. No? I ain't pull it off. No? I ain't never been that...

That bold? No. I've never been Fabio Lozario. I've never been one of those guys that could do that. Wait, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Time out, time out. Now, you done played the field

for a long time. I don't mean to get in your personal business. Now, if you can have two women sit courtside, now I understand you wouldn't do it publicly. So, I don't mean to be in personal business. Yes, I'm nosy. So, you ain't never had two women before in general? Or you just, you got to be locked in

with one? I mean, Ocho, to have like... Talk to have like. Talk to me now. Have I had two women come to a game? Yeah, but I wasn't dating nobody. Ah, okay. I see. I see where you're going with that. I like that.

Did they sit together? Hell nah. Okay. Okay. So, okay. So, you had. So, you had. Yeah.

I wouldn't. I didn't, you know. It wasn't no situation. I didn't want no. I didn't want no, you know, and I was like, you know what? Just my luck. Somebody bump into somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm like, nah, I'm done with this. See, you got to be able to talk to them and have a great understanding because if you tell the truth from the beginning and give them my option, whether to stay or go, nine times out of 10, they're going to stay anyway

and be accepting of the fact that you told told the truth i'm just i'm just telling you i ain't telling you what i heard i'm telling you what i know i believe you joe i believe you oh i believe you but uh yeah i ain't that ain't me no more yeah nah you know i'm yeah what game i would take him to what what are you playing oh it's about now what I'm saying. Where can I take them that we're going to go and watch them? Let me tell you something. We have a tour that starts in what? June, right?

You can have two right there at the show in the front row. What you talking about? Tickets cost too much. Who costs too much? Tickets. And my mama gonna be at the show. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. Mama coming for real? Oh. I ain't let my mama come at it. I'm excited. Can you give me one guess? Can you tell me one guess? No? Not yet. No, I'm not bringing my mom. Plus, it's gonna be too late my mom being the best Lee mama mama mama ate

my mama 82 okay and matter of fact and it's the people people if you watching this people in chat when you will be coming to certain cities certain cities especially my see where I'm from you you know, don't ask, don't ask your boyfriend no tickets. If you love me, if you love me, like you say you do, and you value me and our friendship, I need you to support us.

Don't ask me, don't ask me to get you no tickets. Support us. Please purchase tickets and support us. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm backed up on child support.

So anything you give, yeah, yeah, you know, he'll help you. Yeah, you know, I appreciate that. You know, Ojo, when I first started the cognac, I mean, Rod Smith, my brother still buy it to this day. My brother go to the store. I don't say my brother no cognac.

He go to the store and buy it. Rod Smith, man, Rod Smith, he was the first one I think Rod probably purchased like 10 bottles. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, most of my homeboys, they support me. Bucket, obviously I gifted everybody a bottle. But from that point on, they go buy it.

Yeah. But man, tell Sharp to send me a bottle, no. Mm-mm. I need my people. I'm telling you ahead of time. My people in Philly, my people in philly my people in chicago my people in new york my people in detroit my people in north carolina especially my people in miami please i beg of you don't text me don't ask me boy get your boy some tickets i know i'm

your dog if i'm your dog support your boy yeah because if you have something going on you know i'm gonna support you yeah support you give me that same grace that love you always talk about having for me when I see you and we dap each other

up and we hug I mean Ocho I mean every home game they play 41 games at home in basketball them tickets ain't cheap yeah

nah I remember when I play I think oh no they get wait a minute they get two comps yeah they get two comps

you're right Ocho you're right they get two comps now depending on where they sitting I don't know where them comp seats at well you ain't getting no port side comp seats oh absolutely not you finna pay for that I think they

it's family section though family section and see You took the word, family section. And see, that's the thing. You have one by somebody that is sweet. Well,

who you with? Oh, I'm here with Shanna. You have somebody, whoever's Shanna. And then, and then when you come out, when you come out the locker room,

everybody looking at you like, mind your business. You married. I ain't. Right. I have 15 up there if I wanted to but nah i keep you like i said for the most part my family you know yeah hey i didn't have my first like oh girlfriend in college she didn't come up to one game and then i really didn't have no i mean i would just like get the tickets away because i didn't have i didn't have anybody right hey can i i just got it i'm i'm just i'm starting to think now and things are starting to come to me as i

think about just the the scenario and having two women at a game and unc you know with your experience and people in the chat that have been in relationships just in general. I ain't been with no damn two women at once. Oh, you haven't? Hell no. I wouldn't even chance it now. You couldn't pay me enough. That ain't nothing but a lawsuit waiting to happen. No, sir.

Wait, you ain't never had no? No, don't want it. Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad. No, I'm good i want to talk have i have i have i had have i had women to ask no baby i ain't with it you said no yeah yeah i said hell no what can you wait man you were, I told – do you know – you ain't never had one mess with you up north,

another one mess with you down south? It's me and her. That's it. That's all I got for you. Anyway, listen, I'm just telling you – I'm telling you, this is back in my days. This is back in college days. I ain't done none of this – none of this. I'm 12 for all that. But I was trying to get back to the point about Lou Will and having

two women in the game and understand how smooth and how much patience he has to have as a man. Fellas, this is for you in the chat as well. You know how difficult it is dealing with one woman. Hey, honey, what do you want to eat? I ain't got...

Two? All you're doing is cutting the time in half. I ain't got before. I ain't got before. Good minutes. Two, you down to two. Now you mad. Now the group chat you was talking about, Ocho, I'm in there.

So that's all I got for you. You got two minutes apiece for each, huh? I got two. Hey, somebody all I got for you. You got two minutes a piece for each, huh? I got two. Hey, somebody's going to be disappointed. Somebody's going to be mad. Oh, this ain't nothing. You're right. You're right. That's all I got. So but that ain't

that ain't really never interests me being with two women. It ain't that ain't my thing. Like I said, I've had people like, oh, hey, no, I'm good. I don't want any of that. Ocho, at this juncture, it's a lawsuit. Leave it alone. I don't want no part of it. I'm not talking about this juncture.

That's why I spoke in past. Yeah. I mean, I don't do nothing now. Remember I told you? I got Spade with me. I got in past. Yeah. In past. Yeah. I mean, I don't know nothing now. Don't you remember I told you? I got Spade one. I got two of the possible. With two, I ain't got nothing but a possible. Right.

I ain't got nothing but a possible. I ain't even got a two. It's a possible. I got the ace of diamond, but I got seven other diamonds in my hand. Right. I got you. I got you. Well, wait a minute.

Now, wait a minute. Never say never. I'm never never I don't interest me Ocho let me finish me you and Prime we still got a trip to the DR now you can't never say never never

okay okay for me I mean look I might be For me, I mean, look. I might be the central figure in my family. Talk to me. But I'm the least important. And you can understand that.

My mom, my sister, my brother, my kids, everything. Everything. Everything. So for me, whatever brother my kids and everything everything everything so for me whatever whatever escapade or experience that I haven't gotten

right you ain't getting that I'm good yes sir I'm with you when you're right I'm with you when you're right but I'm gonna tell you one thing it's a roller coaster boy you hear me it's a roller coaster, boy. You hear me? It's a roller coaster. Yes, it is. I'll never forget.

First time, 1996. Had three of them. Oh, no. Had three of them. Had me chained to the bed. I'm going to tell you where I was at. Chained? Yeah, chained.

But I don't play. Listen to me. And I'm going to tell you a story. I ain't told a story. I ain't told nobody except my homeboys out there in Miami. 1996, I skipped school. They picked me up, took me to the Executive Palace in Okeechobee. If you're in the chatty from Miami, you know about the Executive Palace.

They had me chained to the bed. I had bondage, you know? Unbelievable experience. I don't want to get bed. I had bondage. You know? Unbelievable experience. I don't want to get too in-depth with it. I don't want to upset my people, my baby. Yeah, I know she watching. I don't want to, you know.

But, hey, it's a roller coaster, boy. You hear me? It's an experience like no other. I don't got the stomach no more for roller coasters. I'm good, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? Hey, let me get on these sparks. Let somebody get you two of the possible.

No, no. It ain't going to be no two of the possible. If you add the sparks to it, if you add the sparks to it. Hey, I already know. I got two got i got both the jokers i i won't give you two i got both jokers big joker and little joker the one on the bicycle and the one that's not on the bicycle if you play cards you know what i'm talking about the bicycle card i got the big joker little joker yes sir now i want y'all to know, I got a king of another suit. It's not a spade. I can't

be certain that it's going to walk because somebody might throw it off and cut it, don't you? So that's all I got for you. So you come in there and you're like, ooh, ooh. No, don't ooh me. I got you too. As far as I got a possible, but I'm just saying, it't ooh me. I got you too.

As far as I got a possible, but I'm just saying it might get cut. I got you. Hey, that's funny, man. I'm just saying, Ojo. That's funny. No, I couldn't. I couldn't. Hey, and I'm just reminiscing on them days, man, back then, man.

You know, when you're younger, you've done some things that you just don't understand how you're able to do. Especially when you think about it at the age we're at now, I couldn't pull it off. I don't have the energy. No! I don't have the attention span to be able to make sure no one is left out. Yeah. You know, back in them days, you know,, when I was younger, I was like an octopus. I make sure I don't leave

anybody out. I make sure everybody is in tune and I'm sharp and detailed in all that I'm doing that everyone feels like they're a part. I'm in unison. It's all about becoming one. I ain't going to even hold you. I can't do it. I ain't got to do it. I know. I feel you.

But I was different. I know you was here when I feel you. I feel you. I feel you. But I was different, you know? Yeah. You know? I know you was here when you was well. I was here when I was well. Hey, that one called him. Yeah. That one.

That one. I put A. I worked a double on him. I did a double on Joe. I did a double. What are you saying? I did a double now. Don't say.

Like Michael Jackson say, from sundown to midnight midnight you got me working day and night man hold on hold on you work the double owner I put it overtime yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna date myself I don't even know if there's still an existence LaQuinta

back then LaQuinta was about $35 you know about LaQuinta man L-, LaQuinta was about $35. You know about LaQuinta, man. L-A-Q-U-I-N-T-A. Yeah, they still got them. Yeah, LaQuinta Inn, yeah. Especially when you on the road. Oh, bro, you know, I had a little paper back then. You know, a little $35 set of dollars. Get you two nights.

A little tax. Ain't it all? Two nights. I go by that thing, get in that room. I turn that AC on because I might be giving it to her, but I'm a sweater. I sweat. The room got to be icy cold. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing because, you know, I'm just like, man, she ain't going to never want to see me. But, hey, I'm in that thing like a Baptist minister.

Damn, having a father. Oh, man. Boy, having a father. Oh, man. Boy, I did something. Yeah, yeah. Back in the day, Ocho, you like, hey, with old Ocho, what they say, Ocho, with hell, with he was well. Yeah. I was well.

Hey, boy, I got, boy, boy, I got some – man, listen. Man, the stories, man. All right. And if they – I like the same room. I like the same room too. Because I feel – if something about that room,

especially if I get, you know, get a four ball or a five ball, you know what I'm saying I think the room hey let me get that room is the room I had last week available uh Mr. Sharpie won't be available until tomorrow I said well I'll come back tomorrow but let me get it

I'll be back tomorrow let me get it there was something about that bed. I don't know what it was, but boy. But can you hold on. Oh, Jabba, I'll tell you what I have thought about. I said, now, what about old Shea at 18, 19, 20 on the Sparks? No, don't do that. Don't do that.

Don't do that. Don't do that. I'd have to put some of my legs back together. Man! An 18, 19, 20 on those sparks? Yeah. Hey. Matter of fact, the body is already

producing its own spark in general. Can you imagine, Ocho? And you add something to that? Man, please. Boy, them some days, boy. I sure hope you were at the Bible study that week. Boy, them some days. Boy.

What a time, what a time what a time joel and b would undergo orthoscopic surgery on his left knee next week mb rule out the for the season in late february as the sixes met with doctors to determine the best treatment to alleviate the knee issues uh was surgery oh joe here's a wild stat. The games played since the start of the 2014-15 season. The year Joel Embiid entered the draft, Carmelo Anthony, 12th year. Carmelo Anthony has played, what, more games. Is this why I'm reading this correctly, Ash? More games than Joel Embiid?

And Melo has been retired for three years. And he still played more games than Joel Embiid. Is that correct? 470 to 452. Shams is reporting that Carmelo got the call that he's going to the Basketball Hall of Fame. I thought basketball was five years, but I guess they reduced it to three years, or you're a great player.

Like, who was that? Wayne Gretzky. He retired. They put him in the Hall of Fame. What the hell are we waiting for? Certain guys on show are like, why you wait? Tom Brady, why you make Tom Brady wait? Why you make Peyton Manning wait? Why you make like a... Come on now. What are they waiting for? There's no point.

There's no point. We talk about players that are Mount Rushmore at their position. Well, Maxie, respective craft in general. Yeah. I mean, some things you just like. I mean, why would you make LeBron wait a minute? LeBron, you retiring? Okay, we got a ceremony next week.

Make sure y'all ain't. I mean, for real though, check out what we doing. And I don't think LeBron is one of those guys that he's going to come back and, you know, I want to play like Jordan did, you know, Magic. Because it would have been really cool had Magic – because Magic came back and played. And when Bird was going to go in, Magic was like, I want to go in and David Stern wouldn't let that happen.

But that would have been really cool because I really think those two guys should have gone. If any two guys like Russell and Chamberlain, Magic and Bird, some of those guys should just go in together. They should go in together. They really should. Ocho Aisha Howard has addressed the rumor alleging Anthony Edwards requested to pay 18 years of child support up front amid their court battle.

She said, where do these lies? Where do these lies be coming from? You ever heard a rumor about yourself and actually wanted to hear more like, no way. What did I do next? There are no court documents, motions or proceedings that have occurred, nor have I been offered or agreed to such terms. Would it actually be smart just to pay the whole 18 years one payment of only 1.8 million? Yes. Yeah, I mean, this is I wouldn't. It's tough. Oh, Joe, it's tough. It's tough, it's tough Ocho, it's tough it's tough because and we're just

speculating, I don't know Ant-Man like that, have I met him before? Yes It's tough because he young it's reported that he didn't want the kid now he forced to want to be with the kid.

So I just think the thing is, I would say this. Take some time. Cool down. Yes, sir. You're upset right now because you didn't want to be with her. You were just having a good time. Yes, sir. And sometimes when you're late, you got to you gotta pay yeah and that's the only advice i

would give him i say i say son that child didn't have to come it didn't it was too it was too grown folks i mean you practice long enough you're gonna get to get good at it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You're right. I mean, listen, it's an unfortunate circumstance. I know Ant very well, a good friend of mine, and the situation is unfortunate. Now, we're all different in how we operate. Now, I can only put myself in his shoes if I was in that position.

Now, you know me. I didn't do things the traditional way. I didn't do things the traditional way. I didn't do things the traditional way. You know, there was an understanding between those and I that I have kids from where I am extremely active and all my life and always have. That's something that I would be proud of, whether the individual and I weren't together. You know. Oh, you what? Man, you bull driving. It's mine? Oh, bet. Let's go.

I got this. And I'm starting to pre-plan everything ahead of time. What are we having? The girl or the boy? And I'm thinking about gym, club, gymnastics, and football. That's how I operate because I'm the one who enjoys having kids. I enjoy it. I'm active.

I'm hands-on in all that I do, especially when it comes to that. But his situation is different. Obviously, he didn't want the child. But obviously, you do have to take responsibility. And it's different now, Ocho, because, see, the problem that I have now is that they have this thing called internet. And when something gets put on internet, it's up there for perpetuity and to know that one day and this could not be true but for a child to read that to say the father didn't want anything to do it or didn't want to be a part of his life that's hurtful so that's tough yeah yeah he's also he's also speaking from anger of course also speaking from anger about the situation and her understanding that, you know, you know, this is something that I don't want now.

And then, you know, the other flip side that is, well, if you didn't want a child, you shouldn't have. You should have. You can't put raw meat on them. Yeah. So, I mean, it is tough. I mean, that. I don't know I do like I said I understand like I understand her side you know I think

when I think when Coolerhead prevail it's going to be alright it's going to be alright and he's going to be an active father regardless of the reports

that are coming out I think it's great I think it's going to be great and if I I love let me let me take my glasses off. I love kids. Love it.

Love it. I love being a father. If I wouldn't mind having them all. Yeah. I wouldn't mind having them all. Matter of fact, you know what? I'm going to have twins. Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.

I'm going to have, yeah. That's what I'm going to do. And then I'm done. The only twins I want is Range Rovers or Bentleys. Matter of fact, I'm going to get two of them too. Guess what I'm going to get them with? That $5,200 I owe you? Yeah, man. Where you going to pay two of them, too. Guess what I'm going to get them with? That $5,200 I owe you? Yeah, man.

Where you going to pay me my money, man? Hold on. Hold on. Hey, I'm going to have twins. So you want my kids to starve? Do you want my kids to starve? You want the $5,200 or you want me to be able to provide for my kids? What about my kids?

My kids starving. They grown. They can work. They eat, though. Huh? They can work. They eat though. Huh? They need the $5,200. Nah, but they work so they already making money. The kids, before they born, I want to make sure

I can provide. So as long as I got that $5,200, I'm going to be able to provide. I'm just going to go and check it out your check. I'm just going to go on and check it out your check. I'm going to garnish your wages. Hey, Chad, y'all think I should garnish your check? Nah, Chad, y'all, Chad, don't do that.

Yeah, hey, Chad, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to put it on your credit. I'm going to take it to collections. I'm done with this. We already got a reparations. Yeah, we already got them. Don't take the money from me, man.

That's all I got. I'm going to send it to collections. That's all I'm going to do. I'm going to send it to collections. You going to Marvin Sabney? Nah, I'm going to send it to collections collections you gonna Marvin Satney nah I'm sitting in collections whatever your credit I just checked my credit report my credit card I'm 824 I'm gonna get to 850

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a member of the Final Four, Lady Bruins, Kiki Rice. Kiki, how you doing? I'm doing great. We're doing amazing. Well, congratulations. Has it really sunk in yet? Hold on. We're part of the first group of young women

that's ever gone to the final four at ucla that is a very very huge accomplishment yeah i mean after the buzzer went off and we're all celebrating i was just so special because like that's part of what i came here to do and part of what my class came here to do so just so excited that we were able to you know finally get to the final four and um kind of take that next step but you know we got two more games so we're excited for that getting ready to head down there tomorrow. You know, you think about it. Go ahead, Ocho.

Listen, I have one question, and I really like this. And when you think about postseason, postseason stuff to do, I saw something where you said you want to become an NBA general manager after your playing days are done. Yeah. What's the first move you'd make if you happen to be a GM? I'm just curious. Before we get into, you know,

what you're doing right now in college, what would be the first move you'd make as a GM in the NBA? First move. Well, if I was the GM of the Mavs, I would not have traded. My first move for sure. Yeah.

I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. Oh, yeah. Boy, you got it. Okay. Look at what you guys did.

You lose the USC twice. You beat them in the Pac-10 championship. Obviously, that was a huge compliment. Did that guy give you the confidence or were you always confident that you had the type of team that could advance to the Final Four and potentially win it all? Yeah, I mean, this whole season we were ranked number one for most of the year, obviously the top team in the country. But I do think, you know, like losing to a team twice is hard.

And SC is obviously a great team. Juju's great, and they have a lot of great players. But to finally, like, to beat them in our conference championship and to kind of get over that hump, it definitely kind of, I think, gave us some more confidence just because we knew like, all right, like we finally kind of beat the one team that had beaten us this whole year. And now we're just like kind of, you know, playing out the rest of the season. But we were really confident at that point, for sure.

You look at you guys, you played LSU and that game was nip and tuck, very back and forth. I mean, you guys get to a 10-point lead, they whittle it down to two. You race out to an 8-point lead, they whittle it down to three. You guys, and then all of a sudden, you get a couple of big key rebounds and you kick it out to a Hawkins and she makes a couple of threes even though Laura Bennett said, no, don't shoot!

Okay, what are you, good job, good job! So, what are you thinking in that ballgame? You're like, damn, we're so close, we had a 10-point lead and we don't let them cut it all the way down to two. What's going through your mind as the game starts to get later in the ballgame, but the game starts to tighten up? Yeah, I think at one point I looked over at the scoreboard. We were up like – I think we had our biggest lead.

We were up like 13th in the third quarter. I was like, all right, we got this. Like, wow. And then when it started to get close, I did definitely get a little nervous. I'm like, can't let this slip away especially because like LSU they were the team that knocked this out last year so like we needed that we needed that revenge you just wanted to get through the final four too and like obviously a lot on the line but um like we work we worked on special situations and just end game stuff so much in practice this

year that I really had a lot of confidence that we were going to be able to find a way to get it done um but it is like you know I was a little bit nervous at the end there because they're a great team. Flage is a great player. And so, like, you know, it's never over till the buzzer sounds. So I just have to finish it up. Yeah. Speaking of finishing things up, with the Final Four approaching, how is the UCLA team preparing to face the next challenge? And if there were any lessons that you learned from the LSU game, what are they to make sure you don't have to deal with the next team coming

in, whoever you do have to face, not the game not being as close. They got UConn up next and Paige Buckets. UConn, yeah. Oh, my goodness. So the game doesn't be as close as it was this last time. You actually close it out without having to be fearful, you know, towards the end of the game. Yeah, I mean, I do think, like, at this point of the year, like we're prepared that every team that we're going it out without having to be fearful you know towards the end of the game yeah i mean i do think like at this point of the year like we're prepared that every team that

we're going to play is going to be a great team so like we know matchups are going to be closed like the game is going to be close down the line so we just got to be comfortable in those moments and i think like having played a few of those games will help us you know um just because we have that like post-game experience but you know we're you know we'll watch scout watch film kind of get ready. I think we played UConn last year, actually. So like having that experience playing them, and we played really well, we beat them last year,

will be good for our confidence for sure. Kiki, who are some of the women that you watched growing up, obviously being a fabulous player that you are, who are some of the women that you watch and say, you know what, I kind of molded your game, or kind of some of the women that inspired you to play uh basketball yeah i mean i grew up watching skylar diggins erike um diana tarassi um and not only like in basketball but like i loved watching like serena williams and alex morgan like other like well like you know really fantastic women in other sports just kind of to see them be great at their craft.

And that really inspired me for sure. Why UCLA? I mean, obviously, UCLA is really not known as a women's basketball program. You have UConn, you have the Lady Gamecocks, you have LSU, Tennessee, or probably Notre Dame is probably more known as women's college basketball. What made you choose UCLA? Yeah, exactly. more known as women college basketball what what made you choose ucla yeah exactly because i felt like you know ucla is not as known and like obviously you make it known like it's exactly i wanted to i didn't want to go to a program that had a bunch of national championships that

been to the final for a bunch of times like i felt like it makes it even more special to go to a place and help it become um that level of that level of program so I think you know having that all come in to like you know reality now just makes makes it even more special I just swear today that Olivia Miles the Notre Dame player she's projected to be number two but instead of ending the WNBA draft she entered the transfer portal are you surprised by this I was really surprised by this? I was really surprised by that one, honestly. Yeah, really surprised. I mean, look, she's going to be

would be probably the number two pick and you're deciding to come back to college. I mean, I think it speaks to like NIL and what you can get in college and, you know, how great, you know, the college experience is. But like, I don't think

that happens often. Someone who's going to be for sure lottery pick decides to come back to college. I mean, I don't know exactly what went into her who's going to be a for sure lottery pick decides to come back to college. I mean, I don't know exactly what went into her decision, but yeah, I was surprised. Yeah, it went into her decision. She's going to make more money in college than she will be a rookie in the WNBA. That's what went into her decision.

Exactly, yeah. If it makes dollars, it makes sense. Makes sense. Exactly. exactly you know and speaking speaking of the WNBA if you could build your starting five any current NBA or WNBA players who are you picking I I'd say I'd more say WNBA who would your starting five be let's see all right I have Asia Wilson at the five at the five Kaitlyn Clark one

I'm putting Stewie at the four you got a roster so far yeah putting Nefisa at the three putting Nafisa at the three. Two defense. Oh, you got some defense

on that front line. We're locking up. And then at the two, shoot. I'm going Chelsea Gray. Okay. Okay. I like it. I thought you might go with I thought you might take a Rike Ngubowale,. Okay. I like it. I thought you might go with Rique. I thought you might take a Rique Ngubawale. But okay, I like Chelsea because she's healthy now.

If you watched in the unrivaled in the semifinal game, whoo, that's the Chelsea I was expecting to see last year when she came back. But you can tell the way she's playing now versus the way she played. And when she got back in the Olympics, that wasn't her. This is her that we saw in the unrival, leading her team to the first title in the unrival. Yeah, she was tough in that. Yeah, she was playing real well.

So let me ask you this. You probably got approached by a lot of companies wanting to do this NIL. How do you determine who Kiki is going to align with yeah i mean i think a lot of it is like based on if i feel like we can build like a long-term partnership and just like how how much money y'all got like how organic it's not no yeah god it has to be good money um but like i think you know feeling like the brand or company is like you know aligned with my values and everything and like obviously um you know i don't want to be like associated with any anyone that's kind of like you know kind of bring harm

to my brand and my name and everything and then you have a big part of it is money also i mean like you gotta do things that make sense um and and things that i care about too i think like that's when i get like more into doing and it becomes more organic because it's like i care about the the cause or whatever it is you're the first you're the first nil athlete to sign with jordan brand do you understand i mean look there's no there's not a knock on anybody else uh nike and adidas and under armor or whatever the case may be but you know the logo that's where they go by the logo and you're the first when you when you like have you really thought about having you like hey look at these oh look at these jade i got

the one i got these levels i got these fours i mean what is that what is that what does that feel like what does that mean to you to me it feels like a lot of a big shoe collection it's great though I mean um yeah one of the best parts of it is all the gear and everything for sure but I do think like kind of being aligned with like a brand like Jordan like any you know any basketball player you grow up and, like you idolize Michael Jordan, you know what he, he did for the team and what he means to all of us. So I think like for, for me to be the first and a athlete that Jordan chose to sign, like,

it just like, it was kind of a surreal moment when it all happened. And for it to be like at such young age, you know what I mean? Like I signed my senior year of high school, like going into college and everything. So it really just like kind of it motivated me to continue to work hard because it's like all right like i have a lot a lot to live up to but also like a lot more coming if i continue to put in the work one more thing let me ask you this give me the five shoes jordan shoes you don't have that you really really want i have. Honestly, I don't think I have any. There's none that I want that I don't have.

Damn, you got them all. Damn! What's really going on? Kiki, we'll shoot you more. I'm 13. I'm a 13. Got you. I got you, Shannon.

I mean, so, hey, so, I mean, you know, obviously, the Dunks and, you know, all the signatures, they don't make a whole lot of them. Did you get the Dior Jordans or did you get the Virgils? I haven't got those. You haven't got those? You want to get those, huh? Yeah, I'll ask for those for sure. Yeah, I need those.

I don't blame you. Shoot for the stars. You land on the moon, you still got a great collection. Exactly. Listen, outside of basketball basketball I've learned some interesting things about you for one

you like Marvel yep you love to cook and you're scuba certified I'm I'm scuba certified too really okay

the first thing I have to ask what I am scuba certified don't worry about it go ahead go ahead don't you finish your question

I just want to know where's sorry sorry about that where's the coolest place you go on diving the coolest place i went diving was in mozambique damn what yeah how how was it it was that was dope it was really cool the water there so like so clear and pretty and to see i think we saw yeah we saw a shark there which is really cool all right that was my next question have there been any scares when you've been diving because i i got scared when i went when i went scuba diving because i ran into a whale shark by accident and i obviously didn't didn't realize how big they were until they get right up on you even though they're they're they're not hostile but just still yeah the shark though, yeah, it was definitely, it wasn't that big. It was like a,

I can't remember what kind of shark, it wasn't that big, but it was definitely scary. I mean, like, it's not cool to come up on a shark when you're diving. Yeah, just the idea of it, but I haven't had any crazy scares. I mean, I think like one of the scariest parts is honestly making sure I'm doing everything right, so I'm not like

messing up and like messing up the tank or all that. But yeah. Listen, all right. The fact that you love to cook, I can't cook worth a damn. I'm horrible. And I think that might be one of the reasons why I've been left by everybody that updated because I can't cook. But what is your go-to dish?

Let's say if you're trying to impress somebody. It's your go-to dish every time. And that's what you're going to make because you know they're going to like it. Yeah, I'll make some tacos i thought you were gonna say i would whip up some pasta some linguine i'll keep it simple so i know i don't mess it up hey less is less is more less is more exactly and also you're a big marvel fan so which marvel character do you think would make the best basketball player? Just hypothetically speaking, if there was a Marvel character that actually played basketball, who would be the best?

Like the actor or the character? Yeah, the character itself. Probably Captain America. Ah, I like that. I like that. I like that. Kiki, you also played high school. You played high school soccer, won Gatorade Player of the Year.

What went into the decision for you to choose basketball over soccer? Yeah, I thought for a little bit about doing both in college, but I just felt like that would be too much. I think like playing one sport

is already enough, but to do both. And I think the biggest thing is also just like, I didn't want to take my time away from this sport that I liked the most, which is basketball. And like, I wanted to, you know, I want to be a pro, I want to do a lot of things. And I think I needed to focus fully on that. But I think the biggest thing was just feeling like the basketball community.

I liked more than the soccer community, just my teammates and teams I was on and all that stuff. I I think that's what really drew me to just continue to play basketball. Well, you know what, Ankh? I like this. The fact that she played soccer, and that makes me that much more of a fan now. But this can all change based on your answer. All right. Grishanna or Messi? Messi. Messi.

There you go. That's what I'm talking about, Kiki. That's what I'm talking about, Kiki. That's what I'm talking about, Kiki. Kiki. Kiki. Kiki. Kiki. Woo, Kiki. Has to be Messi.

Now that we're done. I don't need no white. See? See what I'm saying? Oh, yo, I've been trying to tell. Kiki, I've been trying to tell this man this for the better part of two years. He ain't want to hear nothing I got to say. So, whoop, there it is.

It's okay. It's all good. I mean, she know greatness. She played soccer. She was Gatorade player of the year. You know how many people drink Gatorade? You know how many Gatorade players there are? And she was top down.

Yeah, I was expecting a different answer but don't worry about it you got what you got it's all good messy in the documentary full court press you mentioned that you grew up watching President Obama and I think you had an aunt

that was like a national security advisor during President Obama's administration, correct? Yes. Did you get an opportunity to meet him? Yes, I have met him, actually. And probably, yeah,

probably the coolest thing, like congratulations text I got was Obama texted my aunt yesterday and said congrats. That's dope, man. That was probably the coolest thing for sure. Wow, that's awesome.

That is unbelievable. So what did you like to do in your free time? So when you're not practicing basketball, you're not cooking tacos, what does Kiki like to do? I love to shop, which probably isn't the best habit. Oh, you're looking at all your money. Go on, Sue, you get it. Exactly.

No, I love to shop, travel, hang out with my teammates. I mean, I don't have a ton of free time, but I would say just – actually, I like to go to the beach too. I like to sit outside. Well, you're in the perfect place to go to the beach. Venice Beach or Santa Monica? Malibu, Santa Monica. I mean, if I'm going to lay out, I'd rather go to Malibu.

It's much nicer. But Santa Monica, if I got to go to like a close one, yeah, over Venice. Yeah, Venice is crowded. Malibu, once you get on up there, I mean, you got some nice spots. I mean, it does get a little crowded, but that water cold, man. Yeah. It's cold out here. It's cold, people. It's cold cold period i don't get in the water people

think that the west coast water is like the east where the east is like warm this specific oh no it's different it's different i got i got one i got one last question what legacy do you hope to leave at ucla and how do you envision influencing the next generation of female athletes? I hope to leave a legacy of championships here. Um, I want to bring, like I got two years left, so two national championships, two more final fours, um, another conference championship. And then I think the biggest things i want to influence the culture here i want to um continue to help us like become be a winning program and be um you know just a program that continues to produce like great great players and great people um and then

in terms of my legacy um i mean i want to be known as the hardest working person in every room and in every team that I'm on. I like it. Well, Kiki, congratulations on advancing to the Final Four. Best of luck in the Final Four, and I look forward to watching you and your continued success. Hey, y'all cut down the net, come back, join Uncle Ocho, and tell us all about it.

All right. Thanks, y'all. Thanks for having me. Kiki Rice ucla outstanding player in the final four for the very first time in lady brewing history gotta be an unbelievable honor seems like to me she wants to be she wants to be uh asia asia started this at south carolina she goes there yeah she was the top basketball player in the country. She goes to a program that's really not known for ladies basketball. And lo and behold, she starts it.

And now a bunch of Final Fours later, three national championships later, player of the year, Asia was player of the year. Aaliyah Boston was player of the year. And now Lady Gamecocks are right up there with the Ucons and the Tennessees. When you think about ladies Women's College basketball, they're one of the most prominent programs in the NCAA. So congratulations, UCLA. Good luck.

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