Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Jackson & Henry ball out, Chargers defense falls flat, Jameson Williams PEDs

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are fired up after Lamar Jackson throws for 5 TDs and combines with Derrick Henry for over 500 yards in 41-31 monster performance vs. Baker Mayfield and... the Tampa Bay Bucs. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals squeaking by Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers on a walk-off FG on Monday Night Football, Detroit Lions WR Jameson Williams being suspended for violating the NFL’s PED policy, the Cleveland Browns potentially shopping Myles Garrett to a contender, the Kansas City Chiefs showing interest in Los Angeles Rams Cooper Kupp and much more!03:30 - Show starts03:42 - Intro05:11 - Ravens v Buccs23:10 - Cards v Chargers28:00 - Whats Olipoppin Off33:30 - Newscap38:15 - Miles Garret getting trade interest45:00 - Chiefs intersted in Cooper Kupp49:11 - More 49ers injuries52:55 - McCarthy responds to Aikman(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:54 the orders out in a timely manner. So we greatly, greatly appreciate your support. The Ravens roll over the books. 41-31. Lamar Jackson 17-22. 281. Five touchdowns. 41-31. Lamar Jackson 17 of 22. 281. Five touchdowns. This is his third game, if I'm not mistaken, with
Starting point is 00:06:09 at least five touchdowns and 50 rushing yards. Derek Henry again ran wild. 15 carries. A Bucs 69. He did have a receiving touchdown. The Ravens on tonight. 30 carries. 244 rush yards. They ran the ball again.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Baker Mayfield, it was those two turnovers that really hurt his team because he was playing extremely well early, and it seemed like when Mike Evans went out Ocho, he started to struggle. He got it together late, but it was a little bit too late. 31-45, 370, three touchdowns, two INTs. He was sacked three times. But the story of the night was that dynamic duo from the Baltimore Ravens,
Starting point is 00:06:51 Lamar Jackson and King Henry. Again, you see what they did, Ocho? Yes, sir. You know your boy? I might coach. I might go into coaching, Ocho. You said it first. What does he do best?
Starting point is 00:07:02 What did he do when he was at Tennessee? How is he efficient all those years that he dominated the league where he was considered the best running back? Go back and look at him at Alabama. What was he at Alabama, Ocho? I'll back. Go back and look at him at Uli. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I'll back. He has the most rushing yards in the history of high school football. Over 12,000. Yeah. He's an I-back. That's what he is. And they put him in the I-back, and Lamar Jackson was sensational. He was 17 of 22, but if I'm not mistaken, I think he had one drop,
Starting point is 00:07:38 Ricard dropped one early in the second half. But they were sensational. Yeah. And once they got a bead on Baker, once he started, they got Marlon Humphrey had two great interceptions. Well, the first one, I don't
Starting point is 00:07:54 even know what Baker saw on that first interception. He hit Marlon Humphrey between the four and the four. But that second one, Marlon baited him because he like K'd on. He's like, you know what? Even if you throw it to K.Dotten, I'm going to come up and tackle him before we get to the first down.
Starting point is 00:08:10 So let me keep drifting. And Baker tried to look like he was looking at K.Dotten, tried to throw it over the top, and Marlon made a heck of an interception. So the Baltimore Ravens, they look really good. Offensively, Ocho, they got no weakness. No, not at all. And this is the problem. This is the problem when you look at the Ravens. You look
Starting point is 00:08:29 at the landscape of the NFL, and you look at the teams that they're going to play or they might have to see in the playoffs. Who's built, Chad, y'all stay with me since I don't have to take off, what teams in the NFL are built to be able to stop the Baltimore Ravens?
Starting point is 00:08:46 Think about it. Who? What team do we have? What team out there right now that has the defensive line that's stout enough to stop the run and then has the secondary to be able to deal with Lamar Jackson? I mean, nobody. Everything I'm seeing from the Ravens right now is shocking to me. I didn't expect Derrick Henry to make this kind of impact on that offense
Starting point is 00:09:10 as fast as he did this goddamn soon. So what they've done so far is scary. Obviously, some people might argue and say, you know, the Detroit Lions might be the best offense in the league. And if Detroit is the best offense in the league, that means Baltimore is a close. Detroit Lions might be the best offense in the league. And if Detroit is the best offense in the league, that means Baltimore is a close. If Detroit is 1A, then goddamn Baltimore has to be 1B.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Because I don't see anyone being able to stop. I'm thinking coming to the game, Vita Vea in that front line, obviously, I mean, the Tampa Bay front line would have success being able to stop the Ravens' run. They would have some type of success. Nah, it ain't happening. It ain't happening. They did everything they wanted to do the Ravens' run. They would have some type of success. Nah, it ain't happened. It ain't happened. They did everything they wanted to do the entirety of the game, and
Starting point is 00:09:50 they were able to throw the ball when they wanted to. So the Ravens looked unbelievably scary. You know, you left for a little bit. I was telling the chat, if you look at the landscape of the NFL from a defensive standpoint and perspective, what team is out there outside the other
Starting point is 00:10:06 31 teams that is built in a good way to be able to stop the Baltimore Ravens? For one, to stop the run and deal with Lamar Jackson and King Henry, let alone stop the goddamn pass. Yeah. In order for you to stop the run, you got to
Starting point is 00:10:22 be able to stop it with seven because if you don't, if you put more than seven, now you compromise your back end. Thank God you asked it. Hey, bud. What? Who that? Who that? Who that?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Who that? Who that? Titus. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. He was off.
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Starting point is 00:10:51 He's so at – we're at a new location, so he don't remember anything. He don't know anything about this place. Right, right. But, Ocho, what we're talking about is that when you look at the Baltimore Ravens, in order to be able to have success against this offense, you've got to be able to stop the run with seven. Because if you compromise your back end, Zay Flowers
Starting point is 00:11:12 didn't play a whole lot because he got nicked, and so he really didn't play. Rashard Bateman picked up the slack, four catches for a buck 21 and a touchdown. Mark Andrews, four for 41, two touchdowns. Hill had three catches 44 yards and a touchdown. Derrick Henry caught a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And so that's what made – I mean, on 17 completions, he had 281 yards and five touchdowns. You know how it feels. Because you got to play a lot – and he's so dynamic because you got to focus on we got to keep him in the pocket. Yeah. Okay, now you focus on keeping him in the pocket and you can't rush like you want to
Starting point is 00:11:45 because you're so afraid of running past him and he jumps out the window and take off and gone and gone. Yeah. Every time. And that's, that's what makes it so hard. And so if they're playing like this, if they're not turning the ball,
Starting point is 00:11:59 if they had that one little snafu or Lamar through the lateral and the guy picked it up. But other than that, they played a clean game. They, they, they are five and oh, since they got off to the low start the guy picked it up. But other than that, they played a clean game. They are 5-0 since they got off to the slow start of 0-2. And if you look at the schedule, I think they got Pittsburgh on the schedule. They got Cincinnati on the schedule. I think they got Cleveland next week, if I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I don't want to get ahead of myself. I think they got Cleveland next week, Ocho. That's another win. Go ahead. Yeah. But when you look at what they have on the right on the horizon it's gonna be interesting to see how the Steelers yeah Steelers have a defense they feel they can stop the run with their front seven yeah without sacrificing their back end but it's gonna be
Starting point is 00:12:37 interesting they've never had to face this Ravens team with this type of running attack led by Derrick Henry yeah That's what's different. Now, they've always been able to run the football, but Derrick Henry is a different kind of animal. Well, he's the same animal. He's just a different beast. So that's what they're up against. So it's going to be very interesting to see how the Steelers deal with this.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I think in three weeks they got Cincinnati again coming down the pike. So it's going to be very interesting. But you're going to have to be special defensively you're going to have to be sound yeah you're going to have to pay you're going to have to have gap integrity and you're going to have to play your responsibility yeah well you know what when i think about it if they do have the steelers coming up the steelers have a great front line obviously uh yes favorite they got tj watt they got joey joey yeah high smith on the other side as well. And then when you look at the secondary, Beanie Bishop is coming off a two-interception game. George Porter Jr. is good.
Starting point is 00:13:32 So, to me, the threat isn't really at the receiver position. They are threats. Obviously, when it's time for Lamar to throw, as good as he's gotten as far as his pocket presence and being able to deliver the ball. But that goddamn King Henry, man. You know, like you can't rush. Can TJ Watt really rush up the field and lose like he wants to?
Starting point is 00:13:54 No. Like everything has to change when you play the Ravens. Yes. On some of the things you like to do or some of the things that you're good at. So I have no idea how Mike Tomlin and that defense is going to be able to defend them when if you can't stop the run. Well, hell, Lamar now, not only can he beat you with his legs, he beat you with his goddamn arm too.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yep. Yep. It's like it's pick your poison. How do you want it? It is. You want it fast or you want it slow? Either way, he finna kill you. Ravens got to do a better job in pass coverage they give up a lot of yardage Ocho and the thing is is that you you know uh Mike Evans went out but he dropped the touchdown
Starting point is 00:14:36 they ended up selling for three yeah uh he tweaked that hamstring um that's the thing that concerns me about the Ravens is their pass defense. I like Marlon Humphrey, but that slot guy and Steven on the outside, you can have them. You can have your way with them, Ochoa. You can have your way with them. They do a good job of
Starting point is 00:14:58 attacking the quarterback, Matt Aguique. Kyle Van Oy. I think, what's the other guy's name? What's his name? Owe? Owe? O-W-E-H, how do you pronounce that? Owe?
Starting point is 00:15:16 But Kyle Van Oy has found a resurgence. He's been playing unbelievable. Yeah. And he provides consistent pressure. They do a great job. I mean, they do okay. I mean, I'm surprised that Tampa ran the ball as well as they did. 30 rushes for 125 yards.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Especially early, Ocho. They were getting some gashes early. Gashes, yeah. That Raven defense is good. That front four ain't the same as the front four during our day. No. They're good.
Starting point is 00:15:47 They're not great. Their team is built around that offense. Putting pressure on you and making you one-dimensional. Let's defend one aspect of your team. Okay? Passing game. We want to shut your run down
Starting point is 00:16:03 because we figure we get enough ahead of you, and that's what happened to Tampa tonight. They scored 34 or an answer. Well, if I get you down 34 to 10, I ain't got to worry about your run. Right. You ain't got no 24 to run. You run the clock. I try to get back in the game. So that's the least of my concern.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I'm going to try to make you one-dimensional, and then I can tee off on that dimension. We saw late in the ball game the Bucs lost their two top wide receivers, Mike Evans with a hamstring and then Chris Godwin was carted off the field
Starting point is 00:16:36 with a leg implying the injury was severe. Normally when they air cast you something is broken or something is seriously, seriously injured. Yeah, he dislocated his ankle. Hopefully. The MRI, the results come back negative,
Starting point is 00:16:54 and it's not as serious as it appears. Both Sid Godwin and the starters went back in the game because they wanted to score a touchdown on the onside kick again to tie the game because they wanted to score a touchdown on the onside kick again to tie the game. But, but, you had already used your allotted onside kicks. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:17:19 You had already used your allotted onside kicks. So what's the likelihood of them scoring? What were they going to need? They were going to need 10 points in seconds. Yeah. Now, is there a 10-point touchdown I don't know about? I mean, it's been a while since you and I both played,
Starting point is 00:17:44 and they do change forever changing the rules. There's 10-point play that I don't know about, I mean, it's been a while since you and I both played, and they do change, they're forever changing the rules. If they're a 10-point play that we don't know about, we miss? Nah. It's not. It's not. Sometimes you just say, you know what? Hey, they got the best of us tonight. Let's go ahead and run the clock out.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Right. That's the, and I get it on both sides Ocho you saw Derrick Henry you and I wanted Derrick Henry to go get that two yards three yards to get 200 but you put him out there and he gets Nick everybody gonna say bonehead ass coach
Starting point is 00:18:18 still got him in the goddamn game still got him in the game in a meaningless ball game now Todd Bowles gonna get crucified you're already down Mike Evans you're already down Mike Evans he grabbed that hamstring
Starting point is 00:18:34 now you're down your two top receivers in a game that you'd already lost I get it. Well, we gonna play. We gonna play. We play from to the horn.
Starting point is 00:18:50 The horn say zero. To the whistle. Okay. The horn gonna hit zero and you gonna be up behind a lot of these games if those guys don't come back. Yeah. Because there are very many teams
Starting point is 00:19:04 that have two receivers. Mike Evans has 12,000 yards and 100 touchdowns. Only six players have ever done that with one team. That's crazy. I think he's one of six that's done it in the first 11 seasons of his career with 100 touchdowns. Not with the same team. Because you got to look at Randy Moss. You got Not with the same, because you got to look at Randy Moss, you got to look at Marvin
Starting point is 00:19:28 Harrison, you look at T.O., you look at Jerry Rice, look at Mike I think it's about five or six guys Ocho. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to do now. You got to be very consistent. You have to be able to be healthy, be available.
Starting point is 00:19:45 But it's hard to do. The funny thing about it is when you do it the first time and they know it's coming the next year, it's that much more difficult to continue to do on top of each other, back to back to back to back to back. And they know you're coming. You still get it, John.
Starting point is 00:20:00 You still get it. He had some years. I mean, look, he had Jameis for a couple of years and you know james could throw the ball but he was just turnover prone you can't win with ojo you can't throw 30 interceptions i don't care what type of numbers you put up he threw for 5 000 yards yeah that that was 30 and 30 years that 30 years yeah yes he was slinging that bitch, boy. Yeah. To both teams. That's the problem. You are absolutely right, Ojo.
Starting point is 00:20:29 He was slinging it to both teams. That was the problem that he had. Yeah. And so I just hope, I hope Mike Evans can get back soon. It seems to me that he has the least of the serious injuries between the two wideouts.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Chris Godwin, it did not look good. Uh, prayers up to Chris Godwin and his family. Um, hopefully the, like I said, the x-rays come back negative and everything works out,
Starting point is 00:20:55 but it did not look good. Uh, and Todd Bowles got, this is not the end of it. He's gonna have some explaining to do to the, to the owner, the Glacier family. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Cause, uh, there's a chance. There's a chance that, you know, hey, you're neck and neck with Atlanta. Atlanta is 3-0 in the division. Yeah. They playing some good ball now. The Bucs playing some good ball, too, you know. But you have to look at the opponent they played tonight. You know, the Bucs was David. I mean, no. Actually, the Bucs playing some good ball too, you know? But you have to look at the opponent they played tonight. You know? The Bucs was David. I mean, no.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Actually, the Bucs was Goliath. Just to stay in context with the story. And the goddamn Ravens was David. I think the Ravens were favorite. Was the Ravens favorite or was the Bucs? The Ravens were favorite, Ocho. Of course. Of course. That's what I'm saying. You can't
Starting point is 00:21:44 be favorite and be David. Remember in the story, David be G Of course. Of course. That's what I'm saying. You can't be favored to beat David. Remember in the story, David beat Goliath. Yes, but Goliath was supposed to beat David. The Ravens in this situation were favored to win the game. The Bucs were the underdogs at home. Okay. My bad. I get what you're trying to say. Yeah, you get what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah. Yeah. Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry ain't going to be David. I'm sorry, Ochoa. All right. We're going to change it up for the sake of the team, then. Yeah. All right.
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Starting point is 00:28:05 passing and one rushing touchdown since he entered the league in 2019. Only Josh Allen, 11, has more such games. Ocho, I don't know how many times and I don't sound like a broken record, but I told you, King Field goal gets your ass beat. Now what do the Chargers
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Starting point is 00:28:54 This game wasn't exciting To me, obviously It wasn't exciting as the Ravens-Bucks game But it was good It was good The goddamn Cardinal snapped the sixth game losing streak against afc teams um other than that i mean james i i don't want to mess up the last connor james james connor despite the fumbles everybody was peanut punching the
Starting point is 00:29:18 night for some reason not knocking knocking the balls out it was a good game It was a good game. It was a good game. The Chargers look, ah, for it to be a hardball run team now, they're not as good as I'd expect them to be. Now, obviously, it's his first year. It's his first year. But I'm sure at some point they will get going, especially on the defensive end, with that the defensive end with that much talent, with that much talent that he has at his disposal as
Starting point is 00:29:49 a coach, I'm sure he'll get that defense going. You see how the Minnesota Vikings defense looks when they play? Or the Detroit Lions defense? That's what I expect the goddamn Chargers to look like. That's what i expect to look like
Starting point is 00:30:08 that's too they got too there's too much over there it's too much i think if they were on any other team you take you know those players and put them on any other team it's it's different yeah they got all pro players and derwin James. They got all pro. They got a defensive player of the year in Khalil Mack. They got a rookie of the year and a pro bowl player, an all pro player in Joey Bosa. They got talent on that side of football. Asante Samuel Jr.
Starting point is 00:30:39 It's just for whatever reason. But you can... Look at Justin Herbert, 27-39, 349. Shit! But you saw... What's this guy? Jalen Reger.
Starting point is 00:30:53 About to score. Get the ball punched out. Touchback. On that play, I thought his foot was out, but... It was close. Yeah,, but... It was close. Yeah, it was. It was close.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And, you know, he didn't feel it because normally you try to, when you catch the ball, Ocho, you always try to put the ball closer to the sideline. Right. So, therefore, if it's punched, it goes out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:31:17 It goes out of bounds. Sometimes you get an unlucky bounce and, you know, you got it in that arm and it goes behind you and it stays in bounds. Yes, sir. But more times than not, if you got the arm, if the ball is into the arm,
Starting point is 00:31:27 that's closer to the sideline. Normally, you get a favorable bounce. But the Chargers, I mean, I thought they'd run the ball a little better than what they did. 22 rushes, 59 yards, not nearly good enough. That's a lot of pressure on your offensive line to have Justin Herbert drop back 39 times. He was dealing.
Starting point is 00:31:44 He was dealing. But you settle for field goals. Yeah. And Arizona didn't do much, but when they got close, they punched the ball into the end zone. Yes, sir. And they ended up winning the ball game. So the Cardinals now, what's the Card's record?
Starting point is 00:32:04 Oh, Chargers are 3-3. The Cardinals are 3-4. Somebody already had a buy. I guess the Chargers. But they've been on their buy already? No. Oh. Because, I mean, everybody else has played seven games.
Starting point is 00:32:23 The Chargers have only played three. I mean, six, excuse me. So they've had to build on the buy at some point. Well, they got a long way to go, boy. Yeah, man. Jesus. It is. Now it's time for Ocho. Oli Pop.
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Starting point is 00:33:20 Bill went on Bill McAfee's show and said, you know, defensively, the Patriots led the league in rushing defense. And this year, they're way way down to 20 it's some of the same guys it kind of it kind of hurt for those guys to call themselves they're not soft they were the best team in the league against the run is that why y'all had the third pick in the draft this year uh-oh hold on hold on before you have that i feel bad for the players defensively on that one because that's a tough group. Let me ask you this, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yes, sir. Do you ever think Coach Belichick has ever called a team soft? Nah. That's not the way he talks. It's not in his DNA. If he does call them soft, he'll never say it publicly. Okay. Because here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yes, sir. Because if he calls them calls himself who selected those soft players that said it exactly so nah you ain't call him so we led the league in rush defense yeah that's because everybody why i'm gonna run the ball when i can throw the ball over your head all night long hey ocho i don't need to break in your window if the front door is open. That's a good one. Why would I break a window
Starting point is 00:34:31 when the front door is open? Coach Belichick, I think Coach Belichick is the greatest coach in NFL history. Absolutely. But you had the third pick in the draft for a reason, coach. Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, the NEP quarterback play as well, but you're right.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I mean, they scored. I mean, that defense, for them not to be thawed, somebody scored on that defense. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how many games did they win last year? Damn, I forgot. I forgot games did we last year? Damn, I forgot. I forgot.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Now, whether you want to call them. So there was there was some questionable decisions on your part to coach Belichick. Now, remember, you had Joe Judge and you had Matt Patricia calling plays for the first time because arrogance. Now, I will take you right out of the look. I don't know, Mayo. But all I know is this. The Jacksonville Jaguars ran the ball
Starting point is 00:35:33 16 straight times. Yeah. Not one, not two, not three, not four, not five. Not ten, not fifteen. Sixteen straight times. Hell no. Maybe,
Starting point is 00:35:54 maybe, but you have to understand, Coach Belichick, everybody doesn't, I mean, okay, you didn't say some things publicly. Right. But you probably called and said, hey, y'all played soft today. We played soft today.
Starting point is 00:36:08 That's not like us. Gerard Mayo is not going to do things like you did him. Yeah, it's different. That's okay. Completely different. It should. Two different coaching styles. That's what got everybody that came from the coaching tree.
Starting point is 00:36:22 That's why they didn't have success. Because they tried to do it like you coach Belichick Charlie Weiss Romeo or Josh McDaniel at least Bill O'Brien did go to the playoffs yeah but that's why they didn't enjoy the level of success because they
Starting point is 00:36:37 Joe Judge Matt Patricia I mean at some point in time you gotta have somebody I mean three of the four have some success now right yeah look at Andy Reid's tree look at Kyle Shanahan's tree I mean, at some point in time, you got to have somebody to have, I mean, three of the four have some success now, right? Yeah. Look at Andy Reid's tree. Look at Kyle Shanahan's tree. Hey, that Shanahan tree go crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So, look, I get it. I mean, look, it's hard. I mean, he didn't call out anybody by name. Yeah. But, I mean, Mike would say we're soft. We're not physical enough offensively. I mean, if you say we're not physical enough offensively, that's the same way of saying soft.
Starting point is 00:37:15 He's talking to everybody in the offense. Everybody. Anybody that blocks, you get caught up. And when people say soft offensively, he ain't just talking about the offensive line. Anybody that's on the offense, obviously the quarterback ain't doing no blocking, but the receivers, the
Starting point is 00:37:31 running backs, yes, we all a part of that. And we took it, we take it personal. Hey, you know, sometimes they'll try and have me a pretty good game blocking. Man, we was so... Who? Big game.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Now, there ain't no... Hey, singing your boy, you know, I don't want to put myself in front of the T, but shows over the blocks I had. Right, right, right. Man, I was moving my man down. Give me my... Give me my body club. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I said, the one time I have a good blocking game, we don't perform like we thought we should, and damn, I can't get no credit. Yeah! Ocho. All right, Ocho. It's time for News Cap.
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Starting point is 00:38:44 I like that. I like that. The bumpy start to. I like that. I like that. I like that. The bumpy start to the career of Jamison Williams continues. He's facing a two-game suspension for violating the NFL performance enhancing substance. As the number 12 pick out of Alabama in 2022, he missed the first 11 games of his rookie season due to an ACL that he tore in the championship game. Then he was suspended four games for violating gambling policy in year two.
Starting point is 00:39:10 He was reinstated in 2023. He said he was disappointed with the current suspension, but he has no choice but to take it on the chin. Hey, now that you just I know I know about this now. Wait, wait, wait, wait that you just, I ain't know. I ain't know about this now.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. What? He had the chance of being suspended. Yes. PEDs. But at that position, there's nothing you need to take as far as PD, PDs that gives you a competitive advantage. Recoverability.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Oh, come on, man. I don't know what he said. I'm just saying. I'm just, I don't know what he took, Ocho. So I don't want to say, but I'm just saying. Clearly, there was something in his urine. Right. That dinged it.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Fuck, man. Hey, he doing, man, young boy doing good right now. Fuck, man. Hey, he doing, man, young boy doing good right now, too, man. That team in general, he's a very, very important part of that fixture, man, especially for that team offensively. He's going to have to get out of his own way, though, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Damn. He's going to have to get out of his own way, Ocho. You think he was taking his own way? You know what? I ain't even making no... I don't want to speculate. Yeah, you got to know. You got to know what you're putting in your body, though.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Because you're responsible for what goes into your body. Yeah, you got to know. Me, Ocho, you know. Hey, I'm calling Greek. Hey, Greek, what you think about this? Right. He's like, Sharpie, let me get back to you. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Until I get back to you, no. Don't take it, right. Don't take it. I remember when, you know,'t take it don't take it I remember when you know we used to we used to take a Fedra and then all of a sudden they banned the Fedra okay you ain't gonna tell me you say you can't take it we ain't gonna take it
Starting point is 00:40:55 gotta find something else get your ass start working out earlier to lose those last couple of pounds or get on the treadmill or something it is what it is don't you but like they say you're responsible for what working out earlier to lose those last couple of pounds. Get on the treadmill or something. It is what it is, Ocho. But like they say, you're responsible for what you
Starting point is 00:41:10 ingest. Now, could it be some stuff that could have been contaminated? Yeah, we've seen things in the same batch. Hopefully, that's what it is. I hope that they get the issue resolved and they realize, obviously,
Starting point is 00:41:25 it was something that was contaminated, obviously, that made the urine sample come back with the positive. Knowing the NFL, I'm hoping they rectify the situation as soon as possible. I don't think... Because they take two samples.
Starting point is 00:41:41 They take two. An A and a B. The A comes back positive, we'll test the B A maybe with a false positive right I'm hoping that's the case I hope so too but he's going to have to get out of his own way
Starting point is 00:41:59 he's going to have to get out of his own way he's too good of a talent you know like the ACL injury, we get that. That's freakish. But the gambling policy, come on, bro. Yeah, you can't do that. You know damn well you can't bet on no football. Hey, go to the ponies.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Bet the ponies. Go to the blackjack table or something. Williams, 23, has the team's second most receiving yards 361 and touchdown behind armand rossite brown he's coming off a strong start in his third season playing extremely well he got this he's the guy that takes the top off the coverage oh yeah he's the guy that hey he could hit a crease and hit his head on the goal post. He has that kind of speed. Oh, yeah. And so, hopefully, everything gets worked out. I'm sorry that he's in this position, but you live and learn. He's young, and just be more responsible, young man.
Starting point is 00:42:57 You're going to be okay. It's not the end of the world. Miles Garrett is reportedly drawing trade interest after the Cleveland Browns failed a one in six on Sunday. According to Sports Illustrated, Albert Breer, opposing teams have checked on Garrett. I don't think they'll move Miles Garrett, but some fishing has taken place.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Anyone can call. Cleveland has already moved one key contributor, six-time Pro Bowler Amari Cooper. Cooper was set to become a free agent at the end of the season. While Garrett still has two more years on his contract, he recorded at least 14 sacks in each of the past three seasons. Ocho,
Starting point is 00:43:32 should the Browns move on from Myles Garrett? I mean, at one and six, with such a high caliber player, I think it would be good for him at this point in his career to be on a contender, to be able to give a team and to be able to bolster a defensive team
Starting point is 00:43:51 that is contending for a championship or a ring. I think it would be a good move for him to be with a team that has a chance to win. I would move him. He probably wouldn't come out and say it, but I'm sure that's something he would like. A fresh start and hell, look, a chance to maybe win
Starting point is 00:44:13 a ring or make a run in the playoffs really far. I would move him. But where? That's the question. What's the best package I could get? You know they need a DN over there in Detroit you said Max Crosby what if LA
Starting point is 00:44:30 don't want to let Max Crosby go because he identifies of what a motherfucking Raider is Miles Garrett but at this point in time when you're losing don't you? Yes sir is Miles Garrett or Crosby, Max Crosby time when you're losing on show? Yes, sir. Is Miles Garrett or
Starting point is 00:44:45 Mason or Crosby Max Crosby, excuse me, Max Crosby. Yeah. How many wins are they going to get you? There'll probably be more value with draft capital because that's what you need. You're in rebuild mode. Right. Now, I don't know the situation with Deshaun, but
Starting point is 00:45:02 they're probably going to move on from that situation and probably have to eat $170 plus million in dead cap space. What are you going to do, Ocho? What are you going to do? Hey, that's a tough position to be in as a GM, to be in as an owner, whoever makes that call, whoever makes that call
Starting point is 00:45:19 in general. Just for some reason, the Browns haven't had any luck. They haven't had any luck for a very, very long time. They haven't had a quarterback. They moved on from Baker. And I get it. I get it moving on from Baker. When you thought you was going to get to Deshaun, that was in Houston.
Starting point is 00:45:36 It makes perfect sense. Most teams will upgrade their quarterback if they had a chance. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I got a chance to get Joe Burrow. I got a chance to get baker mayfield right excuse me uh or my homes or one of these josh allen or justin herbert more unless you got one of those guys on your roster yeah you're gonna look to get him and they don't come they don't come around often. We had never seen a quarterback Deshaun Watson age become
Starting point is 00:46:07 available. Not in his prime. You look at Brady. Brady was in his 40s when he became available. Peyton Manning was coming off a career ending it. Many thought his career was over. Same thing with Drew Brees. These guys do not become available in their
Starting point is 00:46:23 20s at 26 that's when Deshaun he became available at 26 most teams if you don't have one of these if you don't have a Mahomes you don't have a Joe Burrow you don't have
Starting point is 00:46:40 a Josh Allen you don't have a Jerry Garth you're jumping on this trade with both feet. What do I have to give up to get it? Yeah. Didn't work out. Didn't work out. But what am I holding on for Miles
Starting point is 00:47:01 Garrett for? I'm sure he doesn't want to be a part of a rebuild. He's probably not going to say that publicly, but he don't want to be no part. That man want to win. They shouldn't even do him like that. They shouldn't want to keep him around. They shouldn't want to keep him around for what he can do
Starting point is 00:47:17 and what he can be a part of. Allow him to go to a contender. Allow him. Allow a team to give whatever you need as far as picks so he can help bolster their defense so they can make a run into the playoffs. Yeah. So, it's going to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:47:39 There's a trade deadline coming up into November 5th. That's election day too, isn't it? The 5th or the 9th? it, November 5th? That's election day too, isn't it? The 5th or the 9th? It's the 5th? Trade deadline is the 5th. Election day is the 5th too, isn't it? Is it the 2nd? I think the 5th is
Starting point is 00:47:56 Tuesday. Yeah. It's election day too, Ocho. Damn. It's going to be a lot. There's going to be a lot of people in front of their TVs. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Most definitely.
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Starting point is 00:53:38 Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. What else we got? The Los Angeles Rams are facing an uphill battle to reach the playoffs and have reportedly received trade calls from Cooper Cuff. And the Chiefs have been mentioned as a potential suitor. The team need another offensive weapon, and Cooper Cuff trade might be enough to fix the office. You like that. Hey,
Starting point is 00:54:07 yeah, I like that. I like that. You know, you move cup around. You can do a, we can do a whole lot of things, a whole lot of things.
Starting point is 00:54:17 You got worthy, you know, worthy pay that play that same role like Jamison Williams, but I'm goddamn lions. I'm taking the top off. Then you got Cooper cup and Kelsey dominating everything short short and intermediate would you i like that the year that cooper cup won that triple crown man it was the if you go back and look at it oh joe the year he won the triple crown it was the greatest receiving season ever when you look at it in its totality
Starting point is 00:54:41 yes because not only did he win the triple crown look at what he did in the playoffs playoffs yeah so if you look at it in its totality yeah it was the greatest receiving season in the history of the game yeah most definitely so if you if you look at that and you think about what he was able to do that specific year in the positions they put him in creating mismatches condensing formations put him in Listen, what do the Chiefs do very well from a creative standpoint? Oh, they're going to find a matchup. They're going to get people free. They're going to find a way. And you don't have to worry about no goddamn drops no more.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Not with that one now. People are going to get mad. They're hiding here. Y'all going to say to somebody, y'all going to say Patrick Mahomes, Cooper Cupp. They'll be like, nah. We ain't trading no receiver. We'll trade you anything else other than a receiver.
Starting point is 00:55:29 But that, but that, but a receiver. What he has proved 15 in his greatness is, listen, I've gotten it done without him. Yeah. I've gotten it done and won two Super Bowls without an elite receiver.
Starting point is 00:55:47 For sure. Now you give me Cooper Cup. Come on, give me a little something. I don't think – do people understand how bad Patrick Mahomes is playing football right now? And they're still 5, 6-0, whatever. 6-0. Yeah. He's not playing good football.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And that's what I'm saying. But I think he gets a pass for what he's done in the past. Well, I think the thing is that what has happened is because even though he's not playing well, he's not being consistent, when the rubber needs to meet the road, he make a play. Every time. Either with his leg or he's going to make that throw. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Because if you go back and look outside of the first quarter, he didn't play well in the AFC Championship game. But when Andy Reid dotted up on third down, he hit Valdez gambling. You go back and look at Zubo, he was struggling early against the Eagles and the 49ers.
Starting point is 00:56:35 You look at the Eagles in the second half, he didn't miss a throw because he knew he had to be perfect because they were behind. Every drive, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. Look at the situation. 49ers had the momentum. He's like, hey, I got to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And he was. He has that ability that very few Brady. Brady can play that garbage for three quarters, four quarters. Let him have a chance to beat your ass and see what he do. Yeah, we're counting most. You know Mahone, when Mahone be locked in,
Starting point is 00:57:08 he get in that mode, right? He get to hitting this. Soon as the play in, give me the play right now. He wanted fast as hell, so he already got in his mind. Okay, this is the play I'm calling. Boom. What is everybody doing? Give me that what you call it. Give me the play. this is the play I'm calling. Boom. What is everybody doing?
Starting point is 00:57:26 Hey, give me that. Give me that what you call it. Give me the play. Give me the play. I done messed up. Come on. Hurry up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Nagy, give me the play. I want to hear it. But, yeah, I think the thing is, in cup with that high cap number, and you're probably going to move on with Cooper or with Puka. Right. A little younger. They got some, you know, Atwell has caught the ball well. They got some guys that's making plays.
Starting point is 00:57:50 So it's going to be very, very interesting to see what happens. Right. More 49ers woes. Deebo Samuel has been hospitalized due to pneumonia and fluid in his lungs. There is no timeline for his return. And George Kittle has a sprained foot and is considered day-to-day. Brandon Aiyuk is, in fact, done.
Starting point is 00:58:08 He has a torn ACL and MCL, according to Ian Rappaport. There may be other damage. His 2020, hey, his 2024 season is over with a long road back in 2025. Rudy McCaffrey, San Francisco is experiencing the worst injury bug we've seen in a very, very long time. You know what? Who this might be good for? And I wish you'd know how I am. I wish injury on nobody.
Starting point is 00:58:35 But I think this might be a good thing for the Cowboys. Because coming off the bye, who's the first team they play? I think they might have. Oh, the Niners? Yeah. I think they might have a chance to actually get a victory and get some type of momentum in this deadly gauntlet of games and teams they have to face coming off the bat. And with all the injuries that the 49ers do have,
Starting point is 00:58:58 I think the Cowboys have a good chance to win this game. And I tweeted it earlier today. I don't understand what percentage it is, but the percentage of players that are getting hurt with soft tissue injuries or having tears, Achilles ruptures, the percentage has to be high. It got to be higher than normal
Starting point is 00:59:18 because it just seemed like it's every week. It's every week and each year it keeps getting higher and higher. We talk about non-contact non-contact injuries you know people pushing off or exerting a certain type of way and just it's like the bodies are falling apart at such a young age for young players and it shouldn't so early in the season. So early. And I just can't put my finger on what it is. I think it's the field turf.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I don't remember. Like I said, you know, the field turf, the synthetic, that's not natural grass. Everybody has that field turf because, Ocho, football is not the only sport they play on that. They have all kinds of, they have concerts. And and you know when they have those stages out there, it's hell on real grass. We need something that's doable.
Starting point is 01:00:09 We need something when we dump 50 tons of dirt and have a truck, you know, a monster truck thing. Or a motocross. We need something doable, Ocho. And grass is just not built to hold that.
Starting point is 01:00:25 These stadiums have to do more things than just have a football game. What is so fine? They have concerts in there, Ocho. They have football games. Maybe have the MLS. They have a whole, they're going to have a World Cup is going to be there. That's going to be the opening ceremony for the Olympics. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Oh. going to be there. That's going to be the opening ceremony for the Olympics. These buildings have to do more in order to help pay for themselves than host sporting events. Guys, when it's time to get your money, that's why you get your money. Can you imagine if Brandon Ayuk didn't get his money? That's why you get your money.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Get your money. Don't you take your ass out there. Get that. Yeah. Or you get your big ass, like Chase, get you a big ass insurance policy. That's going to be, hey, that's okay. I'm going to get paid if I have something that's going to decrease my value. Let me get that.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Lord of London, hand that off to your boy. Dang. Yeah. Ocho, Mike McCarthy responded to Troy Aikman's critical comments on the Cowboys receiver. They don't carry any weight with me because I watch all the tape. I go to all the tape. I go to
Starting point is 01:01:45 all the meetings. I'm at practice. I'm part of the game. So I have a clear understanding of what and where. Troy's statement in particular, I don't agree with the word selection. There's definitely need for improvement in every position, not just one position, not just the one position that he commented on. So he the tape. Right. He go to all the meetings. He's at all the practice. Yep. What are they telling about that home record, Ocho?
Starting point is 01:02:12 Well, they ain't won that home yet this year, huh? They just got, hold on. The New Orleans Saints dropped 45 on them. 40 ball, 40 ball. Who was just the last team here that had dropped 45 on them? Damn, what game was just the last team here that had dropped 45 on them
Starting point is 01:02:26 and what game was that who just beat the brakes off the Cowboys was it the Lions yeah the Lions was it all the trick plays on them yeah hook a lateral
Starting point is 01:02:38 to a tackle hey hook a lateral to the tackle a back shoulder fade to the left tackle I mean come on man a ladder to the tackle? A back shoulder fade to the left tackle. I mean, come on, man. I mean, come on now, y'all.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I mean, Dan Campbell, y'all boo-jiving now. Y'all, how you gonna throw a back shoulder fade to a left tackle? Hold on, this ain't college. Yeah. This ain't high school. I'll do whatever I want. This NFL, that's disrespectful. I'm serious. that's disrespectful I'm serious it's disrespectful it's very disrespectful I think the thing is
Starting point is 01:03:10 what makes it hard is who Troy is because I know when I was critical of the Broncos it carries more weight it carries weight and people respect Troy's opinion. He's a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:03:27 He won. People respected my opinion. I won. I played in Denver. They know. And I don't take it lightly. Right. The Broncos were great to me.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I don't take any joy or any pleasure. I don't take joy. But I just have to be fair with it. Yeah. You got to be honest. I mean, if I see something, same with the Ravens. The Ravens was great. Ravens were the one that really secured, that made sure the kids got college fun and everything was taken care
Starting point is 01:03:54 of. It was the Ravens that did that. But if they're not playing well, if God's not playing well, I think it's my obligation to say he's not playing well. Hey, did I tell you, Ocho? Hey, Ravens fan, did y'all know? What I tell you, Derrick Henry. What I tell them?
Starting point is 01:04:13 I told them to put him in the capital I. Capital. Capital. Now, see, oh, okay, dog, we get it. That ain't what y'all do. Now, when I said something about Lamar and Lamar proved me wrong, y'all run that. Y'all had that on the loop.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Y'all kept running that. Hey, Unc, what you think about this? You still think Lamar overpaid? Oh, you still think Lamar? Now, I give you a little something, something. You know, I have a little something, something. Because normally, when I say something, nobody will say it. Oh, thank you, Captain Obvious.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Now, all of a sudden, oh, anybody could have saw that. Well, why didn't they say it? I gave it. I was like, man, I'm thinking about this. I'm waiting. I was like, man, because it's somebody else. Because, you know, if you say something, somebody will say it. Oh, you got that from such and such.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Oh, you heard College work or you heard Brady. Bro, I don't watch the sound because I don't know what they say. I don't even know what I don't know what Brady's I know what his voice sounds like because I've heard him talk. But I heard her talk about a game. Yeah, because I don't listen to the sound. Right. Because what he's telling y'all, I know I'm not looking to. Oh, this quarter touchdown. Yeah, my team scored. Oh, my team got I know. I'm not looking to, oh, they scored a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Yeah, my team scored. Oh, my team got a sack. I'm interested in why. How? Who did what? Right. How is this possible? Was this a TE?
Starting point is 01:05:34 Was it an ET? Mm-hmm. What coverage did they run? Was it weak? Was it a fire zone? Was it bomb blitz? Cover zero? Cover five?
Starting point is 01:05:43 22? Whatever the case may be. But y'all don't want me to have none. Let me get, give me B. Run me my credit. Dude, I get it. I said, you work. I said,
Starting point is 01:05:57 what'd I say? I think I said, you can unfollow if you like me, if you want to. But before you go, put D here in the eye. Man, you know what, man? I mean, for somebody, man, they done took, man, the Ravens fans, they be on me though, bro. They be on me hard.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Hey, they don't let nothing slide. They don't let nothing slide. I think the Ravens fan base be harder on me than the Cowboys. And y'all know I be killing the Cowboys. The Cowboys are only three at home. The defense have given up 44 more points and two of the losses. The turnover bug has bitten
Starting point is 01:06:40 Prescott yet again with six interceptions through six games. The running game is an NFL-worst 72 rushing yards per game. Okay, my bad. 77.2. No. Hey, Ocho, them two inches.
Starting point is 01:06:58 77 yards, two inches. Oh, hell no. But I, look, and I think the thing is Troy Mike you do realize that Troy watched film too yeah that's a part of his job his job is to watch film
Starting point is 01:07:15 yeah and he knows when a receiver is busting it he knows when a receiver how he's supposed to get in and out of break what we call transition yeah I mean bro when a receiver, how he's supposed to get in and out of break. What we call transition. Yep. I mean, bro.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Instead of getting upset about what Troy say, fix it. Yeah. Guys, we tipping. Yeah. Guys know when you get in the ball, you bust the ass. When you're not, it's a run. Or it's going to somebody else. We can't have that. Right. And you know it holds even more weight, obviously, for one, for being a player and play the game,
Starting point is 01:07:49 but then calling the games and seeing it for yourself or watching the field and seeing it for yourself. And, you know, anything coming out of Troy's mouth, not only does it hold weight, but it's factual based on what he's seeing. I think, I think Mike McCarthy doesn't like Troy's words, but the words that he's saying is based on what he's actually seeing.
Starting point is 01:08:15 What? What happened? What happened? Cowboys fan, Chris Christie, how the hell he from Jersey, he's a Jersey native, how he became a Cowboys fan, un. How the hell he from Jersey? He's a Jersey native. How he became a Cowboys fan of somebody knows to me. Call Lions head coach Dan Campbell classless over the Detroit 47-9 win last Sunday over the Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Dan Campbell response today. The last somebody the last time somebody called me classless classless. I was drinking wine out of a bottle I'm not worried about it good answer good answer good answer man good answer I like that
Starting point is 01:08:55 and you know every time Derrick Henry rushes for like a hundred a thousand yards cowboy fan we could have had Derrick Henry. We could have had. So, in other words, we would rather have Deuce Bond, Zeke, and Dowdell over King Henry. That's why Jerry get tested because he see.
Starting point is 01:09:20 But Jerry Jones said he couldn't afford him, huh? Ocho. He said he couldn't afford him. Ocho. It's like the girl in the club. Right. You got to ask to see if she got somebody or not. And even if she does, she might be mad at him that night and want to get her lick back. Ta-da!
Starting point is 01:09:38 I'm here for it. Hey, listen, it's a dirty game, man. Damn! It's a dirty game. Hey, Ocho, let me help you hit him upside his head. Wah-wah! I just kidding. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Nah, uh-uh. I ain't helping nobody get no lick back because guys will hurt you with some foolishness like that, Ocho. So I just leave that alone. Oh, you know, but me and him, we... You and who? Oh, no, that's just my... Mm-mm.
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