Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: James Harrison & TJ Housh react to Tom Brady being the Raiders sound board !

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

TJ Houshmandzadeh & James Harrison react to Tom Brady being a sound board, Kylan Mbappe sues PSG, and father goes off about pop Warner prices, and much more!02:30 - Brady to be Raiders Sounding Board24:11 - Mbappe sues PSG33:16 - Father goes off over costs for Pop Warner(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He trying to intimidate Chad through the screen. Let's see if Chad, Chad texts me during the show to let me know that he not not intimidated. So we don't seek We don't kick the show off get right into a little football and it I actually like this topic because it's not many of us in this role and you'll see where I'm going so Tom Brady says He's in sounding board. He will be a sounding board for anything. The Raiders want to need. I mean, you're a part owner.

You should be. But my question to you is, would you have any interest of being part of the front office? Zip, zero, denier. I don't want none of that. Would you have no in the team? No, no interest.

So, playing is enough of a headache. Now you gotta control everything else combined with that and every Tom, Dick, and Harry who thinks he knows better than you and can do this defense offense because he played, you know, this video game and he does well on it. It's, nah, I'm, I have no desire.

You, you got a desire to do that? I mean, other than the money, it's nothing else I would do it for. I wouldn't say I have a desire to do it. I just feel like if I was in the front office now, it just, it depends on your role in that front office. The role in the front office, like a scout? No, you have no say so.

You go scout a guy, you may like a guy that GM may not like them, they don't draft them. But if I'm a decision maker, if my words mean something has a, like, and mean I could pull some weight around, I could throw, weight around I thought Yeah, because I feel like I understand talent. I know talent I position So what happens when you get that talent in there and don't pan out the way that you thought it was go pan out. That's okay

Everybody's on out. I'm not going bad. I'm not going bad a thousand Who nobody I said you go bad a thousand. I? Nobody? I ain't saying you go bat a thousand. I mean, a lot of people don't... Don't nobody bat a thousand. I'm going to bat at least 700. Stop it. I'm telling you. When you sit down and meet with these dudes, number one,

you can tell who genuinely loves the game, or they just playing the game for what the game brings them. Whether it's money attention women like you you don't know but Talent wise. Oh, I'm telling that I'm mailing that Okay, but the talent talent what you doing on in our field can can overshadow your talent If you're a person that has tremendous talent, but when you off the field, you out in the club, you out in the strip club, you out in the streets, and your nightlife is just as fantastic as your playing field, your career is gonna be shortened. You can only burn a candle

from both ends so long. I agree with that to a certain extent. I don't care if you out in the club. It's what you're doing in the club. I don't care if you're on a strip club is are you going all the time? Are you getting drunk? It's people that go out, they don't drink. They just hanging out with their teammates. So what are you doing when you go out for me? Percentage of those people that go out, how many of them don't drink? I didn't like I would say, I'm going gonna say probably that don't, 15 to 20.

It ain't even that high, bro. It's more like five to 10. Maybe 15 to 20. Stop it. You get 10 of your homeboys together right now. No, they'll drink what I'm saying is each time they go out. Each time they go out. And then how often are you going out? Like if you're playing in Pittsburgh, how often you going out? You're playing And then how often are you going out? I depend.

Like if you playing in Pittsburgh, how often you going out? You playing in Cincinnati. How often you going out? Now you playing in Miami, you playing in New York, you playing in LA, you playing in Atlanta. That's different. But you not going bad 1,000.

I just feel like if I'm given that opportunity, I'm driving some talented players. Now am I gonna miss here and there? Absolutely, but how many of us are in that position? That's the problem. Listen, I don't want the responsibility of being in that position. I'm good.

Me personally, I'm jumping two feet in, but they they're not giving us those positions. When I say us, people of color, we don't get those type of opportunities to advance up the ranks. They want you to start in the basement. They want you to start in the basement. Like, you don't want to start in the basement though. I don't need to start in the basement. You don't want to start in the basement though. I don't need to start in the basement. My accolades, I should start a bud at. Hey man, some people can play the game spectacularly and can't judge talent to say they like.

I ain't some people. That's the difference. I'm not. I didn't say you, I said some people. I know we speaking between you and I now. You wouldn't even want to own a team? No. Like part owner, none of that? I don't want none of that, man.

I, see, I love playing the game, man. I love playing the game when I played the game. After I was done playing the game, you know, that was sort of it, you know what I'm saying? I'll watch, you know, here and there if it's something I need to, you know, talk about or whatever, I'll pay more attention to it. But other than that, I love to play the game. Everything else that comes with it, I'm good.

Especially if I'm not playing it. For sure, coaching is nothing, no desire for you at all. It's too much time. That is very, like, that's my biggest reason. Cause I've been offered jobs in the league. That's my biggest reason that I want coaches because one, I want to be around my children. I want to see my kids grow up.

Like you have all the money in the world. Does it matter when you don't have a relationship with your loved ones? Because ultimately the mama is going to be the one doing all the raising your wife or their mother is gonna raise them because you're not around. We know from our coaches like, bruh, let's say Sunday. You see them Sunday night if you play a home game. Monday night they're in a facility all day game planning. Tuesday night they're in a facility all day game planning. Wednesday night they're in a facility all day game planning. Tuesday night, they're in a facility all day game planning.

Wednesday night, they're in a facility all day game planning. You'll see them a little bit Thursday. You'll see them a good portion Friday. Now, if you play an away game, they flying out Saturday. Now you really don't see them. And then, you know, you get them coaches that they don't like they white. So now they stand in the, yeah, you smiling and laughing

because you know exactly what I'm talking about. And the boys talking about they got a gang playing, the boys in there until eight, nine o'clock. They could have left at seven. Eight, nine o'clock, them dudes is in, they like this. Yeah, yeah, they got us in here to, yeah. To about 11, 11, 30, 12. Yeah.

So yeah, I probably just gonna sleep on the air mattress. Okay, yeah, I'll see you tomorrow. Like, that's what they doing. They not even going home. And so, I ain't doing that. Like, I don't wanna coach with a coach and a coaching staff where they in there till like 10, 11, 12, one at some time. They in there till one o'clock in the morning, bro. Oh, you getting, you getting,

you getting 10 on Mondays and Tuesdays, easy. But from what I've been told, like that's the old school coaches. That's the Bill Cowers, the, now the Sean Paytons, all the coaches that came under Parcells, probably Dan Campbell, them new age coaches, the Sean McBays, the Matt LaFleur's. No, no, no.

They out of there like eight o'clock. Nine o'clock max. That's still eight, nine o'clock. You got to realize something like you're in there now. For me, like, okay, you're in there. They're in there most of me like okay you're in there they're in there most of the time before the players get there. Big 6 a.m. 5 to 6 a.m. at the late. Yeah and then they're there another at least three to five hours after the players leave especially once you get into it into the season now they got to break down and practice stuff they got to do all that get ready prepare something else for the next for the next day

Like it's not I'm not I don't I don't love it like that I do but I'm I don't love it enough to not have a relationship with my kids and it could be because I Never met my dad a day in my life. I'm a junior I'm Teraj, who's manzani, Jr. I Never met senior. I don't evenade Jr. I never met senior. I don't even know him. I don't know what he looked like. I don't know him.

And so that could be why I am the way that I am. Never met him and I want to make sure that I'm present for my kids. I don't want to just be around. I want to be present. I want to go watch their games. I want to go to school activities. When my kids was playing, me and my wife my wife, we miss a practice or a game like we sit there and practice children like all the parents drop their kids off, they're gone.

We just sit there and we watch. We watch and practice. Yeah. I ain't going to go with our son. Like I'm not the only part of it. Like ownership. Oh, I, I like that also because I would be an owner that people want to work for me. Like I believe when you own anything, if you treat your employees like they matter, you

treat them with the purpose. You make them feel appreciated. They don't go above and beyond. And that's the type of owner that I would be because your employees are going to be a reflection of how great or how bad your business is and how it grows. And so I'm a tree. I kind of, I kind of, I kind of disagree with that in the football terms, because. Um, rather you like or dislike your owner, I can still advance myself by making sure

the players that are under my tool, it's do well. And I can get out of that situation and advance myself. Like when you're talking about a different kind of business, then yeah, I understand that. You're saying you make sure they do well in that. If you... I credit my linebacker coach, Keith Butler, with my development. He is...

I consider he is the coldest linebacker coach I ever had. He was able to teach me the game so that I could, I could understand it because he played the position. He understood when he was asking me to do something that was difficult. And you know what? You might not be able to get it done all the time, but this is what you need to do. He gave me different things that I could do at the position that still translate. He played back in the seventies, eighties, whatever it was, that still translated. Is he still talking?

No, he's done now. Okay, so then, when you went to, you left Pittsburgh and went to Cincinnati, who was your lineback coach? You got me racking my head now. Okay, don't lie though, was he trash or was he good? I really didn't have to learn anything then, to be honest with you with you know what I'm saying you so everything that you were taught in Pittsburgh you just kind of carried that already had yeah already had with me

You know already had so big I guess Position it varies man. This shit varies Gunther's that sound right Gunther Gunther Paul Gunther Paulie Gunther Yeah, sure kind of chubby curly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Short, kind of chubby, curly, yeah. Yeah, Paulie G. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like, I guess it's different by positions because at the receiver position, you on your own, bruh. You are on your own. If you don't get better outside of the building, man, you done. Don't miss the You vs. You podcast.

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podcasts. They ain't teaching the snap down and the comeback and all that other stuff. How they gonna teach it? They ain't never done it. They're YouTube coaches. Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you. That's something that I really believe helps players is getting a player to come in and coach. But Jackie. That players can know and respect.

We talk about this all the time. I don't know. Are you in like a chat with like some of your former teammates, like a text thread or y'all? No, man, listen, I got up out of there, man. Would you get into one of them, man? You look at your phone, you know, you don't check everything. You go back 10 minutes later, it's 175 texts. Wait, you ain't gotta read them?

You gotta read them all just to catch up. Nah, I don't do that. So I'm in those, right? Chad ain't it also. Sometimes, like, me and everybody don't always comment, but I say that to say is, we talk about that all the time, is coaches are intimidated is we talk about that all the time is

coaches are intimidated by former players. If they weren't a former player, they intimidated by them. Because the current players are going to listen to you more than they listen to their coach and they feel threatened. They feel threatened. Like, bro, if Buddy plays well you getting all the credit. They're not gonna give me none like why we feel threatened I'm not taking your job That to me is the like the receiver position

It's probably five good coaches in a league bro five The rest get on YouTube They'll see so-and-so run a really good route and think that's how you run all your routes. No, that was just a mistake. For that play, literally. And it worked out. That play, how that D.B. played that position. Oh!

That's what he needed to do. Like, you can't run every route like that. That D.B. ain't gonna play that thing the same way. I'm telling you, I've seen it firsthand and I'm not even gonna name the team. Name the team? No, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not even gonna name the team. I'm not anything. No, I'm not do that I'm not gonna leave a name the coach But what teams you played on? No. No, I didn't play for this coach and I didn't play this team. Okay What did you play for then? I play I went since he

Seattle Baltimore the Raiders my last year with the Raiders. I should've played. Okay, so we know it ain't them. No, it ain't none of those teams. Okay. Too many teams, you ain't gonna figure this one out. But this coach, bro, saw me there, I'm watching, and he started implementing drills and teach guys how to do this.

Bro, don't, nah, don't get me here, man. Don't get me here. No, this is a true story. I know what you're about to say, man. He got you doing the drill that don't even correlate to anything that's gonna happen on one play. Believe me, I know. So hold up, though. So one of the players, one of the starters was he wasn't practicing. So I'm standing watching.

He's standing next to me and he talking like this with his hand over his mouth. So the coach can't why the Coritas lives. Cause you know, it's cameras. And he was like, you agree with this? I was like, nah, he was like, I know you don't agree with this bullshit, man. I don't know why he got us doing this. And so then the other players, he, they come asking me throughout the day and the next day, cause I went to a couple of the practices and so then the coach asked me

like what do you think and I said I don't agree with it but I won't undermine you I'm not going teach them something different than you teaching because this is your job I know I won't do that but they feel so threatened that they don't want you around. That is the problem. Like you gotta get receiver position. If you don't get better on your own, it's a wrap. And that's why I think the receivers coming in are much better now because they are getting better on their own. Now they may run into a trash trainer here and there,

but for the most part, these dudes is getting better on their own because coaches, and they know this for the most part, these dudes is getting better on their own because coaches and they notice offensive line coaches, they don't want to bring in a former player. Because the majority of the former players don't teach something different than what the old line coaches teaching because he ain't never done it. There's some good ones, but the majority of them are the receiver coaches though. Bro, I promise you, man, it is, it's comical. It's comical. Like, Oh, no, no, no.

Believe me. I've, uh, I've heard, I've heard of things that, you know, that I train. Well, man, I can show you text me as I put it up here, but then you'll see the name and they'll figure out who the coach is. But like, they literally will call or text me and be like, oh my God, dude, this dude don't know anything. He's like, nothing. Hey man, listen, listen, TG, listen, I seen up, I heard, I heard a linebacker drill

where they had the linebackers like you shuffle punch over the bag. Then you, then you, then you pass rush, you strip the quarterback and then you drop for, then you drop for a pass to pick it off. That was all in one. Really going to do all that? Yeah, that was all in one. Yeah, dude, I'm like, okay. And then everybody trying to reinvent the wheel, you know what I'm saying?

No, stick with all of work. You want to come up with this, you want to be the mastermind of this new defense that got 50,000 gaps in it you know it's not gonna work and people think oh you an NFL it's the best of the best when it comes to coaching that's not the case no you got some great coaches but you got some terrible ass co-lite there's good doctors there's bad doctors yes you know police officers there's bad police officers there's good teachers. There's bad doctors. Yes. You have police officers. There's bad police officers. There's good teachers. There's bad teachers. And some of them coaches are bad teachers. And they don't realize it. I just know at the receiver position, it's very few. And they, the ones they know who they are. Yard with the Rams. Great. McCartal with the Vikings. Great. Dub with the Saints. Great.

Sean Jefferson. Great. I don't even know where Sean at now. And I probably left out like two more. That's it. Tray. Everybody else trashed. Everybody else is trash. And they and they know it. They they know it. They OK. They get on YouTube, Instagram and teaching some that ain't realistic, but they think they know it. They know it. Okay. They getting on YouTube, Instagram and teaching something that ain't realistic,

but they think they right. They really be thinking they right. Not just- Oh, believe me, man. I've heard of it and sometimes I've seen it, you know? But this song- It's damn near every position. But one, TJ, he would like to get in the front office.

TJ would like to get an honors. I'll be a cold ass owner. Well, see, he would like to get in the front office. TJ would like to get in the office. I'll be a cold ass owner. I'll be a- Well, see, you also gotta realize, like some coaches that are in that position may not hire a guy that could do a better job because maybe they're threatening. They're threatening.

You know, they don't wanna have to have they don't want to have to have any pushback, you know, at any of their, you know, coaching positions, any of their, you know, coordinated positions, they want to be able to do what they want to do. So, you know, you get, you know, you might get guys that are getting hired and they're like, who is that? Who is that? You know what I'm saying? I mean, there's probably somebody that can do the job, but they're gonna be easily pushed around. They're not gonna push back on anything. And you know, you gotta realize, you get hired by somebody, you know,

you can't do too much pushing anyway, unless y'all have a relationship built already where y'all have an understanding of that, because you can lose your job. Man, these head coaches talk to you like you the son and ain't a daddy And that's another reason like if I'm not highly up here like man ain't no way ahead a grown man is gonna yell at me and Disrespect me and I don't second. I'm not sitting there taking that I'm not sitting there taking that so I'm getting fired first second Third day, I don't know right I know you right

I don't know right. I know you right. I'm gonna look right who the fuck you talking to that's the first That's what I'm gonna get your they only call a security on but It is a lot of it. We're gonna transition then It's not confrontational, but it's confrontation on the business world This is we doing this for Chad because my boy Chad is a huge soccer fan in Europe. They call it football. Killian Mbappe. You watch a little soccer?

You know what that is? Who the fuck is that? Okay, he a little light skinned. He called it soccer though, he called. So he sues PSG for $61 million in unpaid wages. was PSG for $61 million in unpaid wages, not $61,000, 61 ms in unpaid wages. I don't know like the ins and outs of it, but 61 million. So I bring that up to say at one point in time,

you was up for contract negotiations. Did you ever have any moments where you just was heated and it just went less? No, I really let my agent take care of all of that. I didn't talk directly to anybody because that's what your agent is there for, to be the middle man, to be the person that I'ma go and I'ma say something reckless and crazy to him and he go put it

into good words, you know, to them. So I didn't talk to anybody when I did my contract negotiation. So when you would ask your agent, like, hey, what's going on? And he would tell you like, ah, it didn't kind of piss you off a little bit? It just depends on what it is. And a lot of the negotiation stuff that, you know, I was going through, it was, um, you got to realize you start, they start low. They start low, they low balling you. Yeah, they low ballingin' you. And like my first time ever, yeah, I was hot. He was like, don't worry about it. This is what, this is how it goes.

This is what happens, you know what I'm sayin'? So, you know, once I realized that, you know, you just go back to him real fast, like nope, not happening. Come back with something else. I don't know if it happened to me like that, but when I when I left the bingles I had a certain number in my mind like you're gonna

compare me to this receiver cool I'm gonna compare myself to that same receiver. Oh my stats are now better than that receiver. I'm doing more than this receiver so now I'm gonna compare myself to this receiver. And I think what happens is when you see yourself here and the team sees you here, it starts to get a little personal. I know when I left the Bengals, I left, it was strictly a financial decision.

It wasn't like, I'm a dude, I get comfortable and if I can make it work, I'm gonna make it work. And that's what I wanted to do, but it was like, I was drafted late, you were undrafted. We, we, we gotta get every dollar we can get. We're gonna be taking no discounts, right? So I'm, I'm getting frustrated about like, y'all really offering me this?

I was underpaid the last three years. So y'all got me at a discount for three years. Now you really gonna try to lope. So I was frustrated. And so that's why I left Cincinnati and went to Seattle. And then the Bengals turned around and they signed Antonio Bryant. Antonio Bryant went to Pitt.

Okay. Yeah. They basically gave him what they wanted. Me? Right. Yeah. But a little more. More than they offered me, but a little less than what I wanted.

Right? Okay. He played there one year, one season. So he got like 13 million guaranteed, one season, done. They released him, he didn't do nothing. I don't know if he was hurt or not, because he was a baller. Then the next year, wait, I'm off.

They signed Laverneus Coles first. They signed Laverneus Coles first, got rid of him after one year. The next year they signed Antonio Bryant. That's what it was. So those two seasons was 24 million in guaranteed money that they gave to both of them. If they would have given that shit to me, I would have walked from California to Cincinnati to sign that guy.

Straight up. And so it wasn't like a, like a bad, it was just like, I couldn't believe it because that year, the year that I left, they actually made the playoffs and they played the jets and that's when they put Revis on Chad and the other receiver couldn't get open. And I'm like, if I was there, we would have won because I for sure gonna get open. That's a guarantee I'm getting open. And all y'all had to do was slide me a few more millions, but y'all ended up giving these dudes 24 over two years.

And I'm like, damn, that hurt me in the pocket. And it hurt them on the field and in the pocket because they didn't get no return on their investment. Right. So they had to make more money off of that. And so that for me was like the only time that I went through a negotiation that I felt like, oh man, like this is kind of pissing me off. And then you see what happens. Like you, I left. Yeah, that's a little different.

I never went to, I never went through anything like that. You know? Like no lie though, it kind of pisses you off because you're calling your agent like, hey, what's going on? Ah, they at this number. You think they gonna get up? I don't know.

Then he call you a couple of days later. You see that, you be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, something about to happen. What's up? Same thing. So then you start to get frustrated because every time you talk to him, it's the same thing now, they ain't moved yet. Now they ain't moved yet.

So then at a certain time you like, man, don't even take that cause no more. Fuck them. We leaving. Don't take that cause mom. Give a fuck. Like it starts to make you angry. So then when you're reading, you re-sign, but you still had that animosity over the months of them BSing and, ah, fuck them.

So for me, yeah, but damn, I show, I know they regret that because 24 million over two years at that time, that's 12 million. The highest paid receiver in the league, if I'm not mistaken back then, was probably 12 or 13. And then I go to Seattle and I was making 80 year. I think I was like the sixth, seventh highest paid receiver in the league at that point. But the Bengals could have had me and they gave that money to two other guys. And it was just unfortunate because the Bernays calls when he was with the Jets and at the time the Redskins he was a baller and then Antonio Bryant was a baller also he

was just a hothead you remember when he threw his jersey and Bill Parcell's face they had that all on ESPN. No I didn't. Yeah what Bill Parcell says something crazy to Antonio Brian and He wouldn't take he was the original AB Okay, okay. He was the original AB. He took his jersey off, bro. You got it took his jersey Do it right in Bill Parcell's face and you know Bill Parcell's at that time He had a reputation like run up on him if you want to type of coach. He ran up on him and call security got him up out of there when he was with Cowboys. Yeah, you Google that. Yeah. I'm going to check that out. Yeah. Yeah. Now. U vs. U podcast. Join Lex Borrero every week as he sits down with some of the biggest names in

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space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I think we have a clip of this, man. This is crazy. What would a father, his son is a. About to play Pop Warner football right. And when he found out how much it costs I mean I wouldn't say he went crazy but he was he was a little upset about the cost of his son. How much was it? Look check it out. Why does it cost so much to play part one of football?

Why is it 6.20 for one of my kids, one to play taco football? I know I'm a little bit older. When I was coming up, it was $50. That was expensive to my mama at the time. But being realistic, that was not expensive. But $620, where this money going? This money going somewhere.

Somebody, please tell me why is this, why is it called this? You, you think that's a lot? I think it's a lot of money. Like you said, when we played it was a lot cheaper, but also- I don't think it was- Listen, times have changed.

$50 inflation number one. Yes. Times have changed. And we both are busting, we older than him. He looked like he young. We both older than him. Yeah, but now, you know, times have changed. You got, you got different sets of rules in place.

You got to realize like, is it, uh, like, are they paying for the uniform? Do they get to keep the uniform? Um, the helmets, like the helmets themselves, the helmet, everybody got to get their own helmet, shoulder pads, cleats, you, you, that you have to get on your own. They got to get that by themselves without the team giving it to them? Shoulder pads and helmets and cleats? Hell yeah.

That's on me. Since when? My kids get shoulder pads and helmets from the school. High school. Or from the organization that they're playing with. Pop Warner? That's like Pee-wee, right? Yeah, the same thing.

Yeah. Nah, not out here today. Out here, you get in a uniform and a field to practice at. That's it. So you gotta buy your helmet. That's not with helmet and shoulder pads? No.

That's crazy. They out of control. Somebody stealing. Somebody putting money in their pocket. They feeding the kids, what are they doing? Are they feeding the kids out there? Or they like, it gotta be something else going into that. If you look at it,

it's probably gonna be 20 to 30 kids, right? 20 to 30 kids at 600. Let's just say it's 30 kids. That's 18,000. All right. Eight thousand dollars. You're practicing two to three times a week.

How much you think they charge you for the field per day? Let's say a hundred dollars an hour. Cause you got the lights. That right there. If you just practicing two hours, uh, three days a week, two, four, six, that's 2400, just the practice field, and you're going for four months. So that right there is down near 10 grand,

just with field rent or just the practice, 10 grand. So now we're working with $8,000. Now what that entails maybe is to get them the snacks after the game or pregame. I don't know what it is, but I think now and today's that's about right. Because this is what happens, man. A lot of the coaches that coach you football, they end up spending their money. Oh yeah. Their money on these kids and granted,

some cultures can afford it, others can't, but I don't know how it is in Pittsburgh, but out here, my son is not, he's yet to play tackle football. He will be playing next year, but he's yet to play. But I just know from people that I've talked to, oh man, these parents have no loyalty to you, zero. So as soon as you do something wrong,

they leaving your team, they going to somebody else. But you don't put two, $3,000 into her or his son. But you piss them off or they feel like another team is better or their son has now gotten better so we can go get on a better team. He leaving. Well, that's what the fee for you want to leave, go ahead and leave it. I'm going to hold onto this money.

Exactly. Exactly. But then you get a coach that's kind of footing the bill out his pocket and then they leave now it's like, wow, this is how they're going to do me. Cause so I don't, that's $600 Good so I don't that's $600 feet I don't remember how much if you foot in the bill for a kid the town is worth you taking a chance of putting that bill Let's be honest, you know, yeah, and that's why you foot it Yeah, you know, so that's a chance you take you know what I'm saying You know when you go and and you know, oh you can't afford it. Okay, listen, let me do this. You know, I got it. I got it. I got it. I'm going to take care of this.

I'm going to take care of that. So now, like you said, time come, they upset. He didn't get enough snaps. He didn't get this or, or I don't even know if you can go from team to team. I don't know how the rules work. Like if you leave in the middle of the season, can you play for another team? I don't know how the rules work. Like if you leave in the middle of the season, can you play for another team? But that, that is, I didn't play pop more coming up, so I don't know. But if I thought it was like the a hundred dollars, bro, like 150, but 600 like that's, that's, yeah. So it was a right now, dude.

It's a, it's still a fee. My kids, you know, they play at the public school, still a fee and it's, you know, it's, it's a little less than that, but it's still a fee my kids, you know, they play at a public school still a fee and it's you know It's just a little less than that. But it's still a fee six hundred. All right. Yeah, so that's to me I think that's fair buddy act like Like he was flat fifty dollars. Yeah. Yeah, and they feed them and all that, you know what I'm saying? Like fifty dollars what like he talking about he's used to it being fit. We're one. Where you playing? To are you in the parking lot? Like he talking about, he's used to it being, one, where you playing? Two, where you practice? At the parking lot?

You gotta get a park, a field, a high school. Now, if you practice, there are certain cases, I know out here, when you have a really good organization and a really good team, you use one of these high schools out here to practice at because your team is so good your players are so good They hoping that some of those players attend the high school that you practice at so they'll let you use their fields outside of that

man, you football just being a coach is expensive and Like I coached my son seven on seven this past spring We went 10 and all won a championship. We went blew him out 35 zero on the championship game You know a little uh, I'm a brag a little bit beat they add beat they ask right? Wow Beat the kids out. Okay, but the cup but this, no, no, no, no, no. The coach really was like talking shit.

Like I think they thought they beat my homie team in the semis. They beat my homie. No, so you gotta realize this. They didn't, they weren't beating your kids. They were beating you. Exactly. They were beating you.

Yes. It has nothing to do with the kids. Yes. It's now I get an opportunity to go out here as a coach. But my kids is playing, and I get to beat Hugh Smunzata. I'm going to tear his ass up, because I know better than him. I could have played in the league. And you know what?

Now it's my chance and opportunity for my son to do what it is I should have did to him if they had just gave me his shot. Yeah, so they, I know it's like that. They'll tell their kid to really go at my son. So that's what my son know like. Oh yeah. Like they don't.

Oh, I told my kids that. I said, listen, man, it's people right now is telling their son to try and tear your head off. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, good luck boy, I'll be at the game, dominate they ass. Dominate they ass. My son got a basketball game that he going to

and he about to leave. So yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as we done with this podcast, I'm going to the gym. Hey, foot on throats boy, foot on throats. We ain't playing no games today. So yeah, yeah, sorry y'all. They walk out, I can hear them walking out. Hey, playing no games today. So yeah, yeah, sorry. Y'all. They walk out.

I can hear them walking out. Yeah. Yeah. So we did the seven on seven, right? And we had some kids that come from the inner city, cool parents, and they probably could afford it to even though they come from inner city parents were. Successful. And so, uh, me and another coach, the other coach got the uniforms and

then I paid the entry fee because the majority of the parents could afford it, but not everybody. Right. So I, he was just like, I'll get the uniforms and I was like, all right. And I got the entry fee then. Entry fee was more than uniforms. Cool. But when it comes to that, like it's expensive. And it's hard for parents to budget that. Like, I mean, I think the entry fee was.

Was it 15, 15 or 1800? And it was only six weeks. I think the entry fee was, was it 15, 15 or 1800? And it was only six weeks. You play every Sunday, you get two games on a Sunday, two games on a Sunday. That's total or per kid? No, no, no, total, total, total. Oh, okay, I want to see. We only plan with seven, eight kids, eight kids.

We probably played with eight, sometimes we'd be at seven. And so that's a little over two. If we had divided it, it's a little over $200 per kid. And then you do the uniform. It's probably the uniforms, I think, end up being like 900. So everybody's uniform was about 100. So then now that's $300 per kid,

but it's only a six week season. Parents can't afford that. And so I was like, yeah, yeah, I got it. Not a big deal. And then that's just 707 for that six period, I mean, six week timeframe. What happened when you go play tap? What happened if you go play basketball?

What happened if you try to play other sports? And that's what I do want to get into is the one sport athlete, so just bring that up when you talk other sports, but the $600, I don't think it was, I don't think it was an out rate. I mean, I don't think that was out of pocket. It wasn't astronomical to think that it would be, to think it would be,

to think it would be $50 is out of control though. You know what is astronomical? Cause when you go get a helmet, like you get a good helmet, that's five, $600. Oh, I know. That, that, that's worth it. You get that new one, what is it? The flex something? Steve flex. Steve flex.

No, it's a different one, dude. It is the one where they actually put it on their head and they 3d image it and then go Make the helmet so that's like that's like 800 bucks. I don't know So you got a lot? That when you James Harrison, they're gonna give you that shit for free. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I Don't know what it costs. I just ain't paying you know Yeah, then what you paid for it, but you don't know I paid for it. Yeah in like shoulder pads like

Yeah, playing sports is expensive and a lot of time the coaches take on that expense So you parents that's listening show some type of loyalty? Because they doing it for your kid and yeah, they doing it because the kid is good, but it's some kids that aren't good that they also doing it for. Because the kid, it keeps him off the streets, it gives you something to do and maybe he'll develop. Who knows? I was a zero star recruit coming out of high school and played a long time. You run draft it and you about to, you gonna be in the hall of fame. And so you just never know. The Volume. On the You vs. You podcast,

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