Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Jared Goff goes off, Tyreek Hill struggles, Remembering Dikembe Mutombo
Episode Date: October 1, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discuss Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions powerhouse offense staving off Geno Smith and the Seattle Seahawks on Monday Night Football to wrap up Week 4 of th...e NFL season. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Tyreek Hill, Tyler Huntley and the Miami Dolphins obvious struggles in Monday Night Football, Davante Adams being a potential fit for Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs and much more!04:55 - Lions beat Seahawks19:37 - Titans beat Dolphins28:20 - Davante Adams better fit with Chiefs39:14 - Lamar Jackson goes off on social media42:05 - Christian McCaffrey Achilles tendonitis in both legs46:00 - USA Today top WRs51:00 - Soccercap55:00 - Remembering Dikembe Mutombo01:00:30 - Remembering Pete Rose(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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trade go back and forth, up and down the field. But in the end, the Lions hold on. I am your
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Ocho, the Lions hold on and
beat the Seahawks.
Yes, the Lions hold on
and beat the Seahawks 42-29.
Jerry Goff was a perfect
18th of 18, 292
yards, two touchdowns.
St. Brown threw a touchdown pass to Jerry Goff.
So on the night, they were 19 of 19 for 273 yards, three touchdowns.
They ran the ball extremely well considering they didn't have a lot of plays.
Seattle had over 30 more plays, had 30 more plays than they actually ran, Ocho.
Yeah.
But the plays that they did run, they made them count. They don't count the plays, make the plays count.
And the Lions do an unbelievable job.
Gibbs, 14 of 78, two touchdowns.
David Montgomery, 12 of 40, one touchdown.
28 rushes, 116 yards, and three touchdowns.
Can't get better than that.
They had three touchdown passing, three touchdown rushing,
as they hold on to beat the Seattle Seahawks.
Geno Smith was 38 of 56, 395, one touchdown and interception.
He was sacked three times.
Kenneth Walker III, 12 carries, 80 yards, three touchdowns. Geno had five
carries for 36 yards.
And Zach Charbonnet
had two for 15,
19 rushes, 133.
Damn it, DK. I needed you to get
the end zone from my parlay to hit.
They put him down to the edge.
I had almost the same round.
I thought that was a touchdown.
I thought it was, too, because I thought his elbow hit down on the...
Exactly, over the line.
Yeah.
But the Lions win.
Ocho, the Lions offense, they can run it.
They can throw it.
They got a lot of receivers.
You know, Jamison Williams.
They got, obviously, St. Brown.
Tim Patrick's there now.
Man, they...
Laporta.
The backseat catching out of the backfield
Detroit
Detroit is to be
is to be dealt with
I mean cause their offense
gonna put a lot of pressure
on you now
the things that concern me
about them
is their defense
give up a lot of plays
yeah
definitely
we got
for one
we gotta
we gotta talk to
somebody gotta talk to
Terry Arnold
yeah
all the holding calls.
All the penalties. Use your
hands at the beginning, but
once they pass five yards, you got to play with your eyes
and feet, baby. You got to play with
your eyes and feet. Understand the game. Read the game
based on the receiver's linemen. If you
want to be up there, you want to be up there pressed.
If you miss,
just ride the hip. Just ride the hip. Stop
being so handsy so you stop getting some of those calls.
Now, I think one of the reasons that Detroit was able to win this game,
won the interception Geno threw, and the fumble by Decaf, if I'm not mistaken,
those were points that the Detroit Lions scored on.
I might be wrong.
I might be mistaken.
But the game was so good because each offense was very efficient.
Yes.
They were very efficient.
They were back-to-back when it comes to scoring.
These are two offenses that can damn near score from anywhere.
Detroit is so good at being able to run the ball.
When it's time to throw, it makes it that much easier for them.
It makes it that much easier.
But I think the difference in the game was those got that interception
and that fumble.
It kind of made everything lopsided because Detroit was able to score
on those two possessions.
Because if you're already down, Ocho, you can't turn the ball over.
You're already down.
Because you're already down.
So now you allow somebody to still take a possession away from you.
And so now you don't get points unless you can turn points
on their possessions.
You're behind the eight ball.
Seattle was 5 or 10 on third down.
Detroit was 3 or 6 on third down.
Seattle was 1 of 2 on fourth down.
Detroit didn't have any.
Detroit ran 50 total plays.
Seattle ran 78 total plays.
Seattle had 516 of total yards.
Detroit had 389.
Both had 11 drives.
Yards per pass.
Detroit averaged 12.4 yards per pass.
Seattle averaged 6.5 penalties, Ocho.
Detroit had 12 for 101.
Seattle had 9 for 70. See, Ocho, this is why for one-on-one. Seattle had nine for 70.
See, Ocho, this is why I can't coach.
This is why.
Carlton Davis three times
gave up contain and tell the people at home
what happened, Ocho.
Twice they scored.
Kenneth Walker, he has contained.
Damn! You got contained.
You got to shoot him back inside
to everybody else. How many times you think AG went over that with him? Okay, you got to get contained. You got to shoot him back inside to everybody else.
How many times you think AG went over that with him?
Okay, you got contained on this.
He goes into the line right there.
All you got to do is you contain.
Now you got a two-yard loss in second and goal.
You get caught down inside.
He bounces it touchdown.
The same thing happened again on the 20 plus yard touchdown run he get
caught down inside and then he gonna hit his hand like no yeah it's your fault yeah you effed up
you absolutely effed up and then again on a run he got caught down inside bro you have contained
but you are you jiffing and jabbing with the referee bro you got contained that's your job
you got one responsibility it's the one time guess what ojo you ain't got no pass coverage
responsibility yeah you got contained yeah if the guy if the guy a if that guy starts your way and
reverses field you done your job as long as you don't let him get the edge you've done your job
he tried to do somebody else's job.
Listen, when they watch
film, they're going to let him know. And then, you know, Carlton
knows that Carlton is a veteran. He's a veteran.
You know, listen, you got to flush that back inside
to your health. But flush it back
inside to your health. You don't want to be in a foot race
with Kenneth Walker going around that corner any goddamn
way. Make your job
easy. Make it easy for yourself.
I was like, look, like see but this is why
I can't coach Ocho
I'll lose my mind
because
how many times
you think they went over that
during the course of the week
or it's contained
forget about going
going over it
through the course of the week
how many years
you think you've been practicing it
knowing in that corner
that you have to
contain the outside
and flush whatever's
coming your way
back inside to your health
like god damn
you learned that in peewee football.
It's like
if you're a linebacker, they call it setting
the edge. You never let your
upfield shoulder get turned.
If you ride him all the way to
the sideline, if I keep my upfield
shoulder, Ocho, if I keep it squared
to the line and he can't get outside,
I've done my job. I'll give him that. He's going
to A.C. He's going to B. He's going
to A. I don't give a damn. That's not my responsibility.
I have the edge. I've
got to set it.
Same thing with the D.N.
You got one
responsibility.
You ain't got no
pass coverage. You ain't got no A gap.
You got no B gap. You got no C gap
responsibility. All you have to do
is you got contained. Don't
let him bounce outside. If he doesn't
bounce outside, son, you done your job.
I can't ask you to do anything else.
Hey, hey, listen.
Even with the mistakes, they
won the game tonight.
See? You see? What did
Coach Saban say on football? He said
when you play poorly and you win,
that's the kiss of death. Never accept
anything in a win, you wouldn't have lost.
But listen, that's the first thing. That's the
first thing Coach is going to tell him now.
The first thing Coach is going to tell him. We won
the game. At the end of the day, it's about
winning the game. I understand Coach Saban's
quote about it being the kiss of
death. But when Dan go in there and talk,
listen, we lost to the Seahawks the last
six times we met. The last
six times we played the Seahawks, we lost.
Tonight, we won the game.
Now, are there things that we need to clean up?
Absolutely.
Absolutely. I think, and the thing
is, like Prime said last night,
when he talked,
they played North Dakota State.
And everybody like, man, you know.
He said, yeah.
He said, yeah, we want to win.
But it's got to be more than winning.
Especially because a standard
has been established. The standard is the
standard. We play to
a level, not the scoreboard.
If we play to the level that we
know we can play, the scoreboard will be play to the level that we know we can play the scoreboard will be
reflective of that that's what man it's it's oh it's just really hard to explain to people
when that's when you understand what your purpose is and what you're trying to accomplish right
and people that don't don't live their life like that and don't follow,
don't adhere to that, they don't get it, Ocho.
They really don't.
They really don't.
They really don't.
It is hard. I mean, I would look like sitting to have a conversation to be on a panel
with Tom Brady or to be on a panel with Peyton Manning or to be on a panel
with Ray and guys that get it to understand what winning is about
and what it takes to win.
Because you don't
win see people think you win the game on Sunday
right you win the game Monday
through Saturday that's when the game
is won you just
actually play the game on Sunday
right that's not when the game is won
and people don't
understand that and it's
oh well you know the funny
before you go on when
you think about it even though it's a game of football and people might not understand it
but you can relate to the people if you kind of explain it to them in their way in the different
facets of life in which they have to do their job and you got to do your job the right way because
you can't cut no corners it needs to be a situation where you work at google you work at apple where you're trying to produce something and you
are you on a timeline right i mean if you just go you know you go punch a clock and i get it
and i don't want to minimize anybody's job right but i think the thing is, Ocho, like an Apple or something like that, a computer analyst or something that requires that, bro, if you don't get a job done, they're going to get you up out of here.
Oh, yeah, most definitely.
Most definitely.
That goes for all jobs, not just for Google and Apple, even on a smaller scale.
If you ain't getting the job done the right way and you're trying to cut corners...
But see, the thing is, Ocho,
if I'm working... If I'm working at a fast food restaurant,
I don't care if I sell more burgers
than my competitor.
See, that's not the same.
I'm here to get my $15, $20 an hour
and I'm going to get up out of here.
But when I'm in competition,
you need to be in competition
to understand and to feel that. And so hopefully people understand what I'm saying. I'm in competition, you need to be in competition to understand it, to feel that.
And so hopefully people understand what I'm saying.
I'm not trying to minimize anybody's job.
But when you're in competition and you're trying to accomplish something, then you get it.
Exactly what I'm saying.
The Lions improved to 3-1.
They head into their bye week.
Damn, I would hate to have a bye week this early.
And come back and have 13 games left? I need to have my bye week in the middle of the season. I need like, okay, I would hate to have a bye week this early. And come back and have 13 games left?
I need to have my bye week in the middle of the season.
I need like, okay, I get the first eight, I come
back, I got nine. Or I have, you know,
I go eight, nine weeks, and then when I
come back, I got seven, eight games.
Man, I ain't 13 games in a row?
Yeah, that's crazy. And the
funny thing about it, it doesn't give the players any
time to rest.
And if you have any injuries, I'm not sure what the Lions are.
It's the Lions that got the bye week, right?
Lions.
Lions.
I'm not sure what their injury status is right now.
But if some of their important players are hurt or injured, this is good for them to be able to have that bye week.
And hopefully, with those next 13 weeks to go, you hope everybody can stay healthy and make that run
for the important half of the season after
things got damn given yeah
but the Lions
heading to their bye week Ocho 3-1
they score 42 points
42
29 over the Seattle Seahawks
like you said they're heading to their bye
week 3-1 they get some much
needed R&R.
But, hell, I just started.
The season ain't before 8, but a month old.
Yeah, you're right.
Listen, the fact that you just said the season's only a month old,
do you know how many injuries we have?
Oh, yeah.
Just in general.
I mean, throughout the league in its totality.
I'm not talking about significant injuries.
I'm talking about just soft tissue, ankle here, but just,
just stuff where you just out,
you're just missing time because of, for whatever reason,
I know injuries happen, but like, it's just the, the,
the number is absurd on how many people are hurt.
And we don't need week three or we in week four. It makes no sense.
Imagine what it's going to be like in week eight.
Imagine what it's going to be like in week 12.
That's what I want my bye week.
I ain't going to lie to you.
I'm a good enough.
Like,
Hey,
cause I need something to look on the horizon too.
Like,
yeah,
man,
we got that bye week coming up in three weeks.
We got that bye week coming up in a month.
Your bye week gone.
What you looking forward to?
Oh,
I hope we get the number one seed and get the bye week in January.
Right.
You still got October,
November and December before you even think about a bye week.
Yeah.
Maybe they go to 18 games, Ocho, and they get two bye weeks.
They would have to do that.
They wouldn't have a choice.
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Okay, Ocho, the Titans.
I told you, your team was in trouble.
You didn't want to hear me.
The Titans beat the Dolphins.
The Dolphins got their first win of the season.
An ugly win. Mason Rudolph took up for Will Levis, the Dolphins. The Dolphins got their first win of the season. An ugly win.
Mason Rudolph took up for Will Levis, the quarterback of Tennessee.
He injured his shoulder diving for a first down in the first quarter.
The ugly season for the Dolphins got worse.
The game marked the Dolphins' third straight loss.
Their record is the worst start under coach Mike McDaniel.
Miami struggled to move the ball with Huntley for most of the night.
Huntley was held to under 100 yards passing with Tyreek Hill,
with Jalen Waddell, with Devon A. Chan.
A. Chan.
He was 14 of 22 for 96 yards.
Yeah.
I told you,
I don't care what type of gun you got.
If the,
if the guy that you can pull in the trigger,
if he can't,
don't know what to do with it.
What good is a bazooka?
What good is an AK?
Okay.
Now listen to me.
Now,
now stay with me real quick.
Now,
everybody,
everybody in the chat,
I need you to stay with me real quick.
I want you to understand how difficult the quarterback position is.
I want you to understand how difficult it is for a player that's only been there two weeks to come in and to integrate and learn a game plan.
Not an entire playbook, a specific amount of play that he's comfortable with to be able to function as a Dolphin quarterback after not having a training camp, after not having a mini camp, and coming in and being thrust into that position
is very difficult, even with the weapons that he
has around him. Now, the game would have been
different. The game would have been different
if you think about a game. Let's say it's a 100
plays run. Out of those 100 plays that
are run in a game, two or three
make the difference in a ball game.
Now, you're not running 100 plays.
I'm just throwing that out hypothetically.
70 is on the high end.
Okay, 70 is on the high.
Let's just say 70 is the night.
Okay.
You got to pass to Tyreek on the Darius Sneed on the left sideline.
Easy touchdown.
Ball went out of bounds.
You had another pass to Tyreek that was overthrown on the right side
against the Darius Sneed.
Now, that's 14 points right there.
Most of the time, too, because of the chemistry here in Tyreek have,
those are touchdowns. So you add
14 points to that. What would the scoreline
be? Dolphins win the game.
Can I ask you a question?
Talk to me. When I had this very conversation
with you about Huntley coming in, you mentioned
none of those things. You said these guys are
certain. Now hold on just a second. Okay, I got you.
When we
were having this conversation last week
you said that ain't no problem the guy came in for lamar lamar and did quite well i tried to lay
the things out that you just explained i tried to say that to you right you told me he got water
he got tyreek i said ocho the guy's coming up the guys i mean the guy's just getting off his couch
and you expect them oh they're gonna be just fine, Ocho, you told me quarterback was a very hard position to play.
Now, all of a sudden, see, you get blinded.
You see that teal and that orange and that white uniform.
You get blinded.
All you had to do was take what you said right now and transport that back there.
And you say, you know what?
We're in trouble, Unc.
Yeah. See, I
didn't want to live in reality.
I'm reacting
off the emotion, and it being
my hometown team.
But I'm just saying,
oh, man, it's so difficult.
You know how difficult it is, especially for Tyler Hunt.
You know, and
not having any kind of chemistry, not having
any type of continuity, and learning
a new offense. You know how
difficult that is. I know how. Now, the people in the
chat might not understand it. You know,
they think you just get in there because you have those
weapons around you. You just get out there and you just
throw and you just go. That's why the timing
was off a little bit. That's why the ball was
two
or three yards right in front of Tyreek.
And those would have been touchdowns if they had the time and chemistry in.
And I think as time goes on, depending on how long it takes Tua to get back,
Tyler Huntley will improve.
He will improve.
Another week under his belt, he'll be a little better than that.
Did you see that guy shooting that won the silver medal at the Olympics?
I think he's from Israel.
And he ain't got nothing.
He's just holding the gun.
He ain't got all that fancy equipment.
He ain't got no eye block.
He ain't got nothing on his wrist to stabilize him.
All he doing is holding his gun right there.
And he says, I don't need fancy equipment.
You see, it's not the equipment.
It's the person holding the equipment.
I keep telling you that you keep telling me all these weapons that he got.
It's only about the quarterback.
What can you do with it?
A.K.A. no good.
If the guy don't know how to shoot it, a bazooka, M-16, a tank or whatever you are being, whatever type of artillery you want to use is only as accurate as the person that's firing it.
And right now, Huntley can't fire even though he has max weapons.
He has weapons of mass destruction.
He has a relay team at wide receiver,
and it doesn't do him any good
because he can't get on the ball right now.
Well, let me tell you what the issue tonight was.
So Tyler Huntley tonight,
he was a 9mm,
but he got a switch on it.
So when you got a switch on your 9mm,
it just go all over the place.
So what's going to happen this following week is they're going to take the
switch off. You feel me?
Yeah.
And then the aim is going to be a little better.
So this
is what happens. Your first game, you only
had two weeks to get ready.
They've thrown you into the fire.
You're used to this. When you came in
for Lamar with the Ravens, you got to understand. You done went through training camp. You done went through mini camp. You know the players. You into the fire. You're used to this. When you came in for Lamar with the Ravens,
you got to understand,
you done went through training camp.
You done went through mini camp.
You know the players.
You know the plays.
So there's a- But the offense ain't changing that much.
There's a level of flexibility.
That's not what he is, Ocho.
He's not a drop back passer like Tool.
He's athletic.
And that's why you can do some of the things
that you, when Lamar was there,
you could do some of those things with Huntley.
He can't do anything.
Huh?
He put the ball in the air too.
Now, don't just say he just go.
He ain't no running back.
Don't do me like that.
No, Ocho.
All I'm saying, the man threw 22 times.
Yes, sir.
He was 14 to 22.
Yes, sir.
Ocho, he was 14 to 22 for 96 yards.
Yes, sir.
I'm with you.
He ain't throwing the ball.
Ain't no air.
Do you do 22 attempts for 98 yards? I'm with you. He ain't throwing the ball. Ain't no error.
Do you do 22 attempts for 98 yards?
I'm with you when you're right.
You got to think, two of those,
them numbers would have been extremely inflated.
It would have been about 300 if he hit Tyreek on two of them passes.
You make my point.
Remember what I said?
It's not the artillery.
It's the person.
See?
If he was a great shooter, he would have hit the bullseye.
See, you're not understanding.
You make it sound like it's so easy.
You could just come off the couch and just shoot it like it's so easy.
I tried to tell you that.
You tried to make it seem like it was easy.
Listen, I'm just saying the possibility of being able to do it based on what you got out there.
It just it just didn't execute. It was it was this far off.
Oh, Joe. So what matters? So what? So what? What matters? What type of gun you got?
If you can't shoot now, watch what happened. What type of car? What does it matter?
Let's just say if I gave you the same type of car that I gave anybody that drove NASCAR, you couldn't beat them because that's
what they do. I can take
a street car, any car,
a Camaro or whatever,
a Trans, whatever, a Corvette,
and I would take a professional driver
and I take you and I put y'all on the
track. The car's got the same horsepower,
have the same steering.
They're going to beat you because that's what
they do. They're professionals.
Yeah.
All right. There's levels.
I want you to remember these words you're saying.
Remember these words.
When Tyler Huntley go out there next week and throw
for about 300, 400 yards.
Who they play next week?
You know.
I'm not going to mention
the drop passes. I'm not going to mention all that passes I'm not going to mention all that
but we're going to stay with the quarterback play
they play the Patriots
now what you think is going to happen
I got the Patriots
wait come again
I got the Patriots
Patriots
you talking about Miramar Patriots out here in Miami
or you talking about the New England Patriots
either one the one from 1776 Patriots. You talking about Miramar Patriots out here in Miami? Or you talking about the New England Patriots? Either one.
The one from 1776
or the one that's playing right
now. Bill.
You want to put something on it?
Make it light
on yourself. Better $100.
$100. Say no more.
Alright, Beth.
I was hoping I got him, saw him coming.
I was pretending like I thought out there real quick I knew he was going to jump him, saw him coming. I thought, you know, I'll pretend like, you know, I thought I did real quick.
I knew he was going to jump on it with both feet.
Then I snatched the rug.
I snatched the rug off Monday, making me hit his head on the turf.
We good.
$100.
Patriots.
All right.
Antonio Pierce, head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders,
liked an IG post speculating that Devontae Adams
might have played his last snap with the Raiders.
Sports Illustrated wrote,
don't be surprised if Devontae Adams
has already played his last snap with the Raiders.
Michael Fabinia?
How do you say his last name?
Michael Fabiano.
Liked by Antonio Pierce.
See what you have to understand.
When you hear things like that,
or when media has speculations like that,
it comes from somewhere.
It ain't coming
out the air.
It ain't coming out the air.
The fact that we're in the social media area,
Antonio Pierce and many other coaches
have social media as well.
And the fact that him liking it,
what did Antonio Pierce say in his...
He says,
I have some guys out there making business decisions
and we will make business decisions moving forward.
Case closed.
Case closed.
Now, if Devontae Adams happens to end up
with the New York Jets,
I said it first. If Devontae Adams happens to end up with the New York Jets, I said it first.
If Devontae Adams happens to end up,
there was one more team that was a needed receiver.
If Devontae Adams happens to end up in Kansas City.
He ain't going to Kansas City.
I said it first.
Okay.
And if it ain't Devontae Adams in Kansas City,
it will be Amari Cooper.
You can book that.
Or what you call him?
Or, hey, I'm Or what you call him?
I'm sure what you call him want to go there too.
Who? D-Hop. Okay.
Okay.
Because I was surprised they didn't get D-Hop when he was available last
year. I thought that would be a good
Yeah, they weren't paying enough money, remember?
Right. Yeah. They were cutting
short on the cash now.
Throw me the bag. you know what I can do
but here's the thing
Ocho is that
what you gave up to get Devontae
nobody's gonna
give you two first rounders
to get a wide receiver
right
guess what I know you want to get rid of him
see Tyreek got what he wanted receiver. Right. Because guess what? I know you want to get rid of him.
See, Tyreek got what he wanted because he caught everybody
off guard.
It wasn't nothing.
There was no speculation.
As a matter of fact,
they had just...
Did they lose the Super Bowl?
They had just lost the Super Bowl.
I think they lost to Tampa.
I'm not mistaken.
No, they lost to Cincinnati in the championship game.
That was Tyreek's last game because remember,
they ended up picking a pass.
He threw a deep pass, and it ended up getting picked off to Tyreek.
Nobody knew that Tyreek wasn't available.
Drew
wanted to do a deal. Tyreek wanted to be a highest
paid. The one thing
is, hey, they're not
going to let you force their hand.
And they said, okay, hey,
you can go shop yourself.
So, it's like, hold on.
We need to tell them we can get tyreek knowing that there are some teams out there
ocho they really need a receiver yeah you're talking about one of the top three one of the
top one he probably ain't gonna get past three so you got one of the top three receivers available
what is it going to take to get it? Whatever you want.
But listen, you got to understand that the Kansas City Chiefs are in dire need
of a playmaker.
I don't think they give up two first rounders.
I mean, do you think it would be two first rounders at this point?
No, that's my point.
You're not going to get in return.
Ocho, you know how it is.
You buy a car,
the likelihood of you... You go buy a car
right off the lot.
Keep it for three weeks.
You're not going to get
what you paid for.
Absolutely not.
And I think the Chiefs
understand that.
I think the Raiders
understand that.
But why would you
continuously keep a player
that's not happy around?
Yeah.
Let it be known
that he's not happy
and he wants to be out.
He's not vocal about it.
But look at his body language.
Look at his mannerisms.
You know,
they're going to make it happen.
I'm telling you,
this is not what he signed up for.
He thought that when he came there,
he was going to play with his college teammate.
Yeah.
That's what he thought.
And after one year,
his college teammate was gone.
Yeah.
And so now he played, he played with Aiden O'Connor.
He's like, bro, who's going to give me the ball?
Because y'all got people out here thinking I'm losing the step.
I'm stepping off a cliff.
And y'all not paying attention who's throwing me the ball.
I had Aaron Rodgers.
I come, I get Derek Carr.
And guess what?
I still go for 1,500, make first All-Pro my first year with a new team.
They trade quarterbacks,
and we got these quarterbacks that's throwing me the ball,
and y'all expect me to make, you know,
wine out of what?
At least if y'all gave me water
and grapes, I could make wine.
Y'all giving me vinegar and say,
go make wine with it, Devontae.
Hey, it's only one person turn water into wine, man. Yeah, it, Devontae. Hey, it's only one
person turn water into wine, man.
Yeah, but Devontae said, well, that's
what y'all want me to do.
Just give me some grapes.
I get the stomping, a little water,
sugar. I can make something happen out of that.
But you giving me vinegar.
It's going to be bitter.
They're going to be all right. Listen, Antonio Pierce said you're going to make some business decisions. They're going to be better. They're going to be all right.
Listen, Antonio Pierce,
they're going to make some business decisions.
They're going to make it.
I'm telling you,
if you end up with the Jets
or if you end up with the teams.
Because that's $28, $29 million.
Yeah.
Hold on.
Let me ask you a question.
Yeah.
And this is what I tell people all the time.
When they need to pay him,
I say, where did they finish in the division last year?
Last?
Well, they can finish there without him.
Hmm.
I mean, Ocho, you can finish last in the division
and not pay a guy $29, $30, $40, $50 million.
Yeah, you're right.
I mean, if I'm paying that kind of money,
shouldn't I be first?
I mean.
Or on the cusp of being first?
I mean, well.
Now, they had a huge comfort behind win,
down 10 points again to Cleveland.
They came back, beat Baltimore, down 10 points.
So they have resiliency.
They have resolve.
But remember,
in order to be efficient,
offensive,
you got to have some dogs now.
Yes.
You got to have some dogs now. Yes. You got to have some dogs now.
I just think Devontae will be brilliant.
Yeah, you think you're going to waltz out there with a bunch of chihuahuas
and you're going to be able to dance with the Rottweilers.
That ain't going to happen.
You got to have some dogs out there to be able to compete.
I just think Devontae at this point would be happier elsewhere. Yeah, most definitely.
Most definitely.
He won't say it, but I'll say it for him.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean
he's like
I'm blowing out by welcome here
I can only do so much I play a
very dependent position and
the people that I'm depending on
I can't or I shouldn't be
there ain't nothing
worse to being oh Joe you know how you like
you need a ride
and need somebody to take you somewhere
and you already know
hey bro I need to be here by X time.
And you are,
the worst thing you need to do
in anything,
need a ride,
be in a relationship
where you're dependent on that person.
You know,
because you get dependent on a person
that treats you like any kind of high.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Think about it.
Somebody making the money, they expect you to take whatever they, whatever they kind of high. Yeah. Yeah. Think about it. Somebody making the money.
They expect you to take whatever they,
whatever they dishing out.
Yeah.
Where you going to go?
Who going to treat you like me?
Well,
I can go anywhere and get treated just like this here.
I might not have the means,
but at the end of the day,
you treat me like stir fry.
Yeah.
You know,
it's a lot,
a lot of folks in situations like that.
Now you preaching that.
It is. It is. Uh, yeah you know it's a lot a lot of folks in situations like that now you're preaching that it is it is uh but it's like my grandfather and i tell this all the time i remember my grandfather very vividly telling my aunts because they had gotten grown they were still at the house
and they wanted to come you know they wanted to come in one two o'clock in the morning
my grandfather say don't grumble and stay. Grumble and leave.
He say, tell me what a
S-O-B-I-M-H-O place.
But you ain't going to tell me what I am at mine
because you're not coming in here at the
time that you want to. Grown
folks have their own place.
Whole bunch of grown
folks don't stay with other grown folks
and then try to tell them how to run their
house. That ain't happening at Barney Porter's house.
Sound like roommates, huh?
So guess what happened?
They got this stuff in there.
Don't grumble and stay.
Grumble and leave.
Tell me what a mofo I am at your place.
Man, I can't stand that mofo.
He make me sick.
But you at your place saying that.
You're not finna say that here.
And so. stay in that mofo. He make me sick. But you at your place saying that. You're not finna say that here. So.
You know.
Man, look at Barney.
Hey, Ocho, man, look here. You talking about
Hurricane Pauly?
Yeah.
Look here. Barney Porter, they
play the drums.
Hey, man.
He did not play with his kids or nobody kids it was he was matter of
imagine what i am magnified times 10
when that joker say i'm gonna be at your house a certain amount of time
you gotta be sitting on that porch when he he say, I'm coming to pick them
kids up to go to Bible
study or go to Sunday school
and I'm going to be there next time.
He right there. He on time.
It wasn't no, hold on, Mr. Barney.
Oh, no.
You better be ready.
What?
What do you think we got there from Ocho
he did not play that
when that man say we leaving for church at this time
lord have mercy
I should have had my brother tell you
ask him
that joker didn't play at all
yeah
he was quick to say look here all, all that joking and kiki.
He's a great grown man.
Don't play like that.
Right.
All that kiki.
That's where I get that kiki from.
Oh,
no,
but I tell you what,
Chad,
y'all see my brother asking,
say,
say,
Sterling,
man,
I heard your brother talking about your grandfather.
Tell us what he was like.
See what he say.
I'm going to ask you about that.
See what he say.
Lamar Jackson had something he needed to get off his chest this morning.
Yeah.
This is a team sport.
I'm not out here to satisfy when I throw.
I'm not out here satisfied when I throw for 300 yards, but took the L
if I throw for 50 yards and we win
that's what the WTF
matters, y'all stop commenting
on our social about yards
and fan duel or parlays ain't here
yeah, you know
you know
the players don't care nothing about that
they don't care
Ocho, what I'm getting out of it
let's just say, Ocho what I'm getting out of it.
If I, let's just say, Ocho,
you had somebody got you in your parlay.
Right.
Ocho over under 100 yards.
Ocho, you know, touchdown.
The parlay, Ocho score.
This guy scored.
So, you hit a parlay.
You bet $50.
And you got all these guys.
You got Ocho as one of your guys
or another guy as one of your guys.
And that thing hit for like 4,000.
How much did that you getting, Ocho?
None. So why won't you give a damn about your partner?
I mean, the player, listen, for the
fans, it's fun. But the fans
it's fun.
It's messy.
You know,
when it comes to y'all, for the fans, but the fans have to
understand that players are the
fans of the game.
They don't care nothing about that. They don't care nothing about the game, they don't care nothing about that.
They don't care
nothing about your quality.
They don't care
nothing about your fan duel.
And if you got money
that you can't stand to lose,
you don't need to be betting.
Yeah.
You don't need to be betting.
It's tough
because y'all jumping
on these guys' timeline
like,
hey, man,
you caused me my fantasy.
Oh, you caused me,
bro,
I didn't play well enough and we
lost the game. Why I give a damn about your fantasy
more than I care about this game? I get it.
And I'm, hey, I want you to have
success as much as you possibly can.
But I don't be looking at, reading my comments
like, hey, man, are you on my fantasy team?
Oh, man, this dude picked me in his fantasy.
Let me go out there and try to get three tubs and a hundred
yards. Lamar ain't looking
at your fantasy saying, man, he got me.
I need to rush for a hundred score to, you know, run for two touchdowns,
go for another two 50, another touchdown.
So I can make sure my guy win.
Lamar ain't thinking like that.
Lamar said, I'm trying to get the Lamar says,
I'm trying to stack as many W's, many dubs as I can.
I want to have home field one more time.
And I want to see if I
can do a step better than
what I did last year.
That's what's going through Lamar's mind.
Lamar ain't thinking about no fantasy. Fantasy don't
do nothing for Lamar.
Unless he got a fantasy.
He his own quarterback on his own
team.
That ain't got nothing to do
with
Lamar. But no, that ain't got nothing to do with Lamar. But guys, I
see it all the time. Guys like, man, you
causing my fantasy. Guys like, bro, I don't care nothing about
your fantasy. I really don't. I don't care nothing about your
parlay.
Especially in basketball too.
Yeah.
Kyle Shanahan confirmed that Christian McCaffrey
has Achilles tendonitis in both
of his legs it's called bilateral
Achilles tendinosis
McCaffrey
recently went to Germany for treatment
he says he has it in both
but it's more severe in one
of his legs
how do you
treat that because you just said something
I know what tendonitis is
it's rest, that's not what you treat it with
rest
that's it
you can't run, you can't do anything
no type of surgery, no nothing
it's just like you got tendonitis
in your knee, they don't do no surgery for tendonitis
in your knee I don't do no surgery for tendonitis in your knee
I mean
they might
inject some gel in there if you know
if you got kind of like bone
well simbus is what it's called it's a lube
that they put in there but your body will eventually
absorb it and you'll be bone on bone
again but there ain't really no surgery
that you can do it's not like he has
particles loose bodies something that you can go in there and take it out that you can do. It's not like he has particles, loose bodies,
something that you can go in there and take it out.
That's causing the irritation.
That's not what it is.
It's just tendonitis.
Golly.
And you would think as advanced as technology has become,
you would think there would be ways to cure damn near about any and everything,
you know, when it to to injuries or arthritis or
tendonitis or things of that nature but i mean shit here we are yeah it is and the thing is
there's no treatment you just have to rest and get up stay off it so it's painful i had it in my
in my right ankle uh my senior year like i said it took me took me, and I just, like I said,
I ended up having like,
I don't know if they'll do this now,
but back there,
I like bad.
I wouldn't,
I took it.
I took a shot.
I took it.
Just to play.
No,
to take some of that irritation out of it.
I don't think,
I don't think they'll shoot that up now.
But the stuff that we did back then,
they ain't doing that right now. Right. Did I do that? Oh, Ocho? But the stuff that we did back then, they ain't doing that right now.
Right.
They're not doing that.
Ocho, during the third and two situation
in the second quarter
of the game against the Chargers,
Patrick Mahomes threw a pass to Sky Moore,
his first target of the season,
what was a very catchable ball,
passed through his hands,
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Please do. Fox 4, Kansas City reports that Chief General Manager Brett Beach
was enraged with Moore slamming the table in front of him in frustration.
The USA Today said top five receivers,
Darius Slade for the Giants, Robert Woods from the Texans,
Kendrick Bourne from the Patriots, Amar Cooper from the Browns,
and last but not least,
DeAndre Hopkins. I told you,
Ocho.
I told you last year he had lost his confidence.
I told you.
You watch him. Ocho, you watch him
his rookie year,
and you watch him last year, and
now the only reason he got an opportunity
to play is that guys
are down. No know, no Hollywood.
You are.
Who else just got it?
Who else just got it?
She writes.
Oh, she writes.
He mainly plays special teams.
Right.
And so, oh, Joe, you know what happens when a guy comes in baseball, when a guy comes into the outfield, the ball gonna find you.
If you're scared, the ball gonna find you.
Every time.
It's gonna find you.
I don't know how it happens like that
or why it happens like that.
But bring a receiver in the game and he be scared.
He gonna be wide open.
Beat him up, ball. Beat him up.
I don't know why it happens like that.
I don't know why it happens like that I don't know why it happens like that
and it always happens at the most opportune times
no the most inopportune times
inopportune times
yeah always
man I can't even talk
I can't even talk normal like I want to
cause you know I'm at the hotel
and you know they always send security to my room
what do you think the Chiefs should do you like Slayton you like Robert Wood I'm at the hotel. They always send security to my room.
What do you think the Chiefs should do?
You like Slayton?
You like Robert Wood, Kendrick Bourne, Amari Cooper, or DeAndre Hopkins?
For me, the one that I believe can do more as far as working the underneath stuff,
because you already have Xavier Worthy, who can go deep.
You already have Hollywood Brown coming back at some point, who can go deep.
I like DeHop. I like DeHop. I like D-Hop.
D-Hop can kill
that short intermediate
game.
He can kill that and he ain't dropping Nathaniel.
Nothing.
Yeah. D-Hop would be first.
Mark Cooper would be second.
D-Hop would be first
and Mark Cooper would be second on my list.
Hell, I could try to get both of them if I could.
Because Mark Cooper is going to be a free agent next year.
So is D-Hawk.
Yeah.
Hey, we're trying to three-peat, right?
We're trying to three-peat, yes or no?
Load it up.
Load it up.
Load it up.
Yeah. loaded up yeah and
I think especially
if Cleveland continues to lose
why am I going to pay Amari
16 million dollars and we're not going anywhere
let me see if I can get
something for him can I get a fifth round pick
for him Mojo can I get a sixth round pick
take that salary off my books
right
damn I mean I like Kendrick Bourne also but DeHart would be first pick, take that salary off my books. Right.
I mean, I like Kendrick Bourne also,
but DeHart would be first.
DeHart would be first.
Kool would be second.
That would be the order in which I would take them,
but they're going to have to do something. They can't stand Pat. There's no way. There's no way
I believe Brett Veach and
Andy Reid will stand
Pat. Oh, next man up.
At some point in time, you run out of men.
There's a reason why the man was sitting
down. You talk about next man up. There's a reason why he was sitting
down, don't you? Yeah.
Because if he was the man, he'd have been up.
Oh, that's crazy.
And there's only so many times. Okay, the next
man up. Okay, the next man up.
Okay, the next man up. Well, damn next man up. Okay, the next man up.
Well, damn.
We done went through like three men.
So, I mean, who has to be the one to make that decision?
If anything, all Pat got to do is go upstairs and say,
listen, give me some help.
Give me some help.
We might be 3-0.
We might be 4-0.
But it's going to get tougher unless you get me some help.
Well, look, they
bounce everything off of Pat.
So when they say
they're going to get a receiver, they ask Pat
about Xavier Worthy. What you think?
Pat, I love it. That kind of speed,
we can push the ball down the field. We saw
again, 54-yard bomb.
He got speed. He got inline speed.
Once he learns how to run the tree
with that kind of speed, it's a wrap. Because first of all, O speed once he learns how to run the tree with that kind of speed it's a wrap
because first of all ocho he gonna he gonna need to get a little get a little you know you gotta
be able to play through contact because right now people feel they can put their hands on it
and rough him up a little bit with that kind of speed oh you got to be petrified of me oh yeah
because that's one thing hey I keep my legs on me.
I keep moving.
Hey, just so you know.
Yeah.
Oh, that's what you think?
Him.
Go.
Bye-bye.
That's it.
So, I think the Chiefs are going to make a move
and they should.
Ocho, now it's time for Ocho's favorite segment.
It's time for Soccer Cap.
Yeah, this is what I've been waiting for.
Chat, listen.
We got no graphics?
Oh, we got a graphic?
Uh-huh.
Oh, I'm sorry.
We ain't got no graphics, Ocho.
We're going to work on that.
We will get you some graphics, too.
We're going to give the little man.
Okay, we got a little third. We're going to have a little man kicking a ball here. A some graphics, too. We're going to get the little man. Okay, we got a little third.
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There we go.
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Excuse me, rematch of last year's Champions League final.
Real Madrid is 3-2 against Dortmund
in their last five matches.
Real Madrid has outscored Dortmund 12-7 in those last five
another great
match that I'm really looking forward to
that I can't wait and I know I have some friends that are in the chat
in the chat right now, are you a gambling man?
if you're a gambling man and you're a gambling woman and you want it and you
want to pick a team where you can make some good money,
I need you to make sure you bet where we are.
We are Madrid to win.
They haven't looked too good at the beginning of the season,
but now in Boppy and Vinicius and Rodrigo,
they're starting to gel together.
The chemistry is a lot better.
It was kind of sloppy at the beginning of the season,
but they're playing very well,
very well,
very,
very well now together.
So I had them winning that game.
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to beat Dortmund in the first game.
Second game I want to talk about, this is going to be a good one.
Barcelona, and I'm sure we got a whole bunch of messy fans in here,
even though he's not at Barcelona anymore.
Barcelona versus Bayern. It takes place on October 23rd.
Unfortunately, the German powerhouse
has been too much for Barcelona
because the last five matches between the two,
Bayern is 5-0 against Barcelona
in the last five matches.
Barcelona, oh, this is ugly, has outscored,
I mean, Bayern has outscored Barcelona 19-2
in the last five appearances.
Barcelona hadn't scored, excuse me,
I think my internet is messing up.
Barcelona hadn't scored against Bayern
since August 14th in 2020.
So again, if you're a betting man,
if you're a betting woman,
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a little parlor, a little money line,
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Ocho, we have some sad news today.
Dikembe Mutombo, the Hall of Fame finger wagging center,
who spent much of his post-basketball career as an ambassador for the NBA,
died of brain cancer at the age of 58.
Mutombo's family revealed two years ago he was undergoing treatment in Atlanta for a brain tumor.
The NBA said he died surrounding my family and friends.
I was in Denver when DeCambie got there.
I was in Denver when he got there.
That's where I first met him.
Obviously, living in Atlanta, I would see him.
He went to the gym that I went to.
And as I told the story today,
if you hadn't finished your workout by the time you saw him, you weren't going to get no workout because he's going to sit there and talk to you for a good 30, 45.
So I'm like, bro.
And he's still talking.
I'm trying to do something.
I'm trying to do something.
He's talking.
Even though he's doing his like, you mind if I work in with you, Shaw?
So I'm like, no, I ain't got no problem, bro.
I ain't got no problem. He. I ain't got no problem.
You know, he was just a great guy, Ochoa.
I mean, just like, just talking, you know, love what you do, so forth and so on.
And it's just so sad you don't know because I'm at the age that when I was a teenager in my early 20s, this is what they considered old.
Oh, yeah.
But after you get to a certain point in your life you realize the goal is to
get old yeah and hopefully you have your health you have your family you have your friends um i
was glad that he had he was surrounded by family and friends and loved ones and because he gave so
much um giving back to his country um Building hospitals, building
schools, trying to
help his community, trying to help his country.
It's so sad.
It's so sad that
death is so unfair.
And you never know when.
No. You never know
when. No, you don't. And it takes a time like this, Unc. And I wish people when. No. You never know when. No, you don't.
And it takes a time like this, Unc.
And I wish people would do it.
When you have family members or you have people that you're close to.
And I always tell people, you don't want to do it.
You don't want to envision it.
But envision those individuals that used to be a part of your life.
Envision those people that you used to be close with.
Not being able to tell you, I love you again know not being able to tell you i love you again not being able to say i miss you again and it doesn't
it never hits you damn i should have reached out one more time damn i should have made amends with
with so and so you know what let me be the be the bigger person and and just apologize for what it may be. Let me rekindle this.
And it takes
death. It takes death
for that person no longer being
here for people
to realize
listen, you need to
fix things, man, while people are still here.
Right.
Once you start to get to a certain age jojo you start to realize the only non-negotiable
currency is time because it's the one thing that you cannot recapture oh get back yeah because once
it's gone it's gone and you take things for granted because you think you have so much of it, but you don't know.
Yeah.
The moment,
the hour or the day.
Yeah.
That
your
number gets called.
And that's a scary.
It's the,
it's the one appointment you can't reschedule.
Oh,
come on now. When it's the one appointment you can't reschedule. Oh, come on now.
When he says, okay, you have an appointment with me.
You don't know it.
Yeah.
But it's not reschedulable.
I tell you what grandma used to tell me.
Every one comes with an expiration date.
You don't know when that date is.
So while you are here,
you got to live your life to the fullest.
Yep.
So,
thoughts and prayers go out to Dikembe Mutombo's
family.
First and foremost, his loved ones
and his friends.
Dikembe Mutombo,
dead at the age of 58.
Damn.
Also, we lost another legend today.
It didn't stop there.
The all-time hits leader, Pete Rose, passed away at 83,
a 17-time All-Star switch hitter.
The lead had the most hits. He broke Ty Cobb, what many thought was unbreakable record.
He was a National League MVP in 1973.
He was a World Series
MVP. He played for the Big Red
Machine, the Cincinnati Reds.
They had a squad back there.
Tom Seaver,
Pete Rose,
I think Tony Perez was
on that team.
Johnny Bench.
Many consider one of the greatest catchers ever.
Yeah.
He holds a major league record for games played 3,562
and played appearances 15,890
and an NL record longest hitting streak 44 games.
I think he did. He tie Wee Willie Keeler?
Wee Willie Keeler's record.
I think that's who record he tied.
Because Joe D has the record in the,
well, the overall record is also in the American League with 56.
I think Robin Young
has something
in the high 30s maybe 40s
yeah
the question is now
he fought hard we know he was banned
permanently if I'm not mistaken I think it was Faye Vincent that banned him he fought hard. We know he was banned permanently.
If I'm not mistaken, I think it was Faye Vincent that banned him permanently
from baseball with no consideration
for the Baseball Hall of Fame.
I think Dan O'Dowd, I think it was
that who did the report, who wrote the report up for Pete Rose and
handed his information
of what he found out
and turned it over to the commissioner?
He had a dial report.
Ocho, is it
time for Pete
Rose to go into the
baseball Hall of Fame?
Listen,
I think it was time while he was here.
I understand what he did.
I think he paid for his mistakes.
Those that he did
while swimming, gambling,
on the game of baseball.
But he's no longer here
to smell those flowers. He's no longer here to smell those flowers.
He's no longer here.
And I hate when they allow people to get their flowers
or to bless them with the highest achievement in their respective craft
and they're not here to experience it.
It's like, you know what?
You ain't here no more.
Forget it. here you go
it's just just it seems so ingenuine was it was it uh faye vincent that banned him permanently
or bud seely i don't think i know bud was was the uh uh the commissioner but i thought i thought I thought that came across Faye Vincent's desk.
Bart Giovanni?
He was the commissioner at the time?
Wow, I thought it was Faye Vincent.
No milestone approach to 4,000.
I think that is an unbreakable record, Ocho.
I don't believe somebody's going to play that long.
The average, those kind of hits,
because now it's a strikeout league,
and now guys either hit it over the fence or they strike out.
So he broke Ty Cobb's record.
Ty Cobb had 4,191 hits,
but he also had the highest lifetime.
Well, I think now,
since they brought the Negro League players,
and I think now Ty Cobb is second.
Because he had the highest lifetime batting average at 366.
Damn.
Yeah.
I wasn't going to tell you a story about my batting average,
but I'm going to let it slide.
Yeah, it's just tough because I get it.
I mean, and you know, for some is
I guess for his family is never too late.
Yeah, but man, let that man smell his
followers. Yeah.
He's still got it. Okay.
You're Rogers Hornsby
358.
Mm-hmm.
Ah, so.
Thoughts and prayers go out to Pete Rose family,
family, friends, and loved ones.
Sorry for your loss.
Also, Dikembe Mutombo.
Pete Rose was 83 years of age.
The Volume. Before you're lost. Also, Dikembe Mutombo, Pete Rose was 83 years of age.
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