Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Jayden Daniels shines, Josh Allen MVP frontrunner, panic time for 49ers

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson breakdown Washington Commanders rookie QB Jayden Daniels phenomenal performance on the road against Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals on Monday Night Fo...otball. Later, Unc and Ocho breakdown Josh Allen's 4 TD performance against the struggling Trevor Lawerence and the Jaguars, the Dolphins QB search and what they need to save their season, the latest news on San Francisco 49ers RB Christian McCaffrey seeing a specialist in Germany and much more!03:18 - SHOW STARTS04:44 - OCHO RING OF HONOR CIGARS06:30 - Commanders beat Bengals28:07 - Bills beat Jags35:35 - Miami QB situation40:36 - Niners burning Jersey45:00 - CMC going to Germany51:30 - Chris Long Sot on Carter56:00 - Justin Tucker kicking struggles01:01:00 - Reggie Bush sues NCAA01:03:35 - Rough Draft Best Rookie Season(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:00 this week. Ocho, I hear you got a new cigar that's being launched. You want to tell us about it? Listen, we have the Ocho Ring of Honor cigars coming out. You guys know how much I love cigars. This is
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Starting point is 00:06:32 We've pinned the link to the Cigar of Honor. It's at the top of the chat. So go support Ocho like you have thus far at Nightcap. Ocho, I tweeted tonight. Jaden Daniels is Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. He's the gospel. He's him. H.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I. M. He's him. He is. 21 of 23. 254 yards. Two touchdowns. Zero turnovers. 91% completion completion percentage he goes on the road in a hostile environment against the bingo and they we know the bingo the crowd is going to be
Starting point is 00:07:15 raucous they're oh and two they don't want to go down oh and three it's very very hard to make the playoffs going down oh to three because guess what in order for you to get back to 500, you got to win your next three games. That gets you back at 500. You have a slip-up, you could easily be 1-5 or 2-4. Not to make matters worse, huh? Ask, ask. I'm not even going to say it. Ask, ask who we play next.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Watch this. Ask, ask who the Bengals play next. Don't y'all got Baltimore? Nah, Baltimore. Who they got next? Oh, y'all got the Panthers. That's a win for the Panthers. I got the Panthers. That's easy. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Who you got? Panthers circled y'all on the schedule. Listen, I'm going to that game. Back to this game. Listen, Jaden Daniels was phenomenal. Jaden Daniels at the quarterback position played phenomenal tonight. Listen, the franchise, the commander franchise, they got them one. They got them a 10-12 year franchise quarterback. And we got a small
Starting point is 00:08:28 sample size of it at LSU. I didn't expect them to come in this early as a rookie. And this is the question I'm going to ask you, as a rookie and look this good this early. And my question to you, Hunky, is what you might have a better way of answering. Why is it that some rookies can come in their rookie year and look the par to look like they've been before the CJ Shrouds, the Jaden, the Jaden Daniels. And then you have other rookies that don't look the par. They struggle.
Starting point is 00:08:59 They don't. Well, that's, that's where any position, some wide receivers come in and you get a randy mox or you get a puka nakua or you get a justin jefferson and then sometimes guys it takes a little longer everybody doesn't mature some people reach maturity at 18 some people it takes them 21 some people take some 25 some people never damn mature but you do depends on, look, the one thing we know about Cliff Kingsbury,
Starting point is 00:09:26 he can coach some quarterbacks. Yeah, yeah. He and Lincoln Riley can coach quarterbacks. Now, you can say what you want to say about them as head coaches, but when it comes to running an offense, when it comes to putting a quarterback and taking what he does really well
Starting point is 00:09:41 and accentuating that and putting him in the most positive position so he can have success, it's hard to say somebody is better than those two. Now, Sarkeesian might have something to say about that because we know what he's done with quarterbacks in his tenure as an OC and a head coach. But that's the one thing Cliff Kingsbury, Lincoln Riley can do. They can coach the quarterback position.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And he has a quarterback. Processes information very well. He sees the field very well. He had Terry McLaurin earlier on a seven route and he threw it out of bounds. 100% of the balls that land out of bounds, they're incomplete. But you say what he did on that next one, he put it
Starting point is 00:10:19 up under duress, gave McLaurin an opportunity. Keep him in bounds. In the bread basket. And McLaurin an opportunity. Keep him in bounds. In the bread basket. And McLaurin did a great job of holding on to it. This young man, I mean, the moment is not too big. You saw what he did at LSU
Starting point is 00:10:36 last year. He won the Heisman Trophy. He was sensational. Dual threat quarterback. But the thing that I love most about him, he's not relying on his legs. He will only run if it's absolutely necessary. If he's absolutely necessary.
Starting point is 00:10:51 He doesn't have the most size on him. He's not 230 pounds, so he understands that I have to pick and choose my spots in order for me to run. When I do run, I got to make sure I protect myself because they've made it easy. I can slide like I'm going stealing a
Starting point is 00:11:08 base. But he was 21 of 23, 254, two touchdowns. They ran the ball for 106 yards. Joey B didn't play bad. He was 29 of 38, 324, three touchdowns. They ran the ball for 124 yards. But
Starting point is 00:11:24 those first couple of possessions when they fell behind. And for 124 yards, but those first couple possessions when they fell behind. And you know what else? Not only those first couple of possessions, those two four-down conversions that the commanders were able to... They were able to... To convert.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Able to convert. Like, that hurt. Like, I thought, honestly, to me, I'm thinking, listen, Bengals, we have a history of always starting up starting out out the gate you know very slow especially offensively start oh and two oh and three i don't i don't think that's happened that that has happened we've been to this point in a very very long time but the offense looked good looked good tonight as opposed to what it did last week
Starting point is 00:12:01 in the week in the week prior we had it we had all hands on deck offensively, but we couldn't pull it out. I'm hoping that when we go to Carolina next week, which is a game that I'm going to attend, I'm going to go out there to Carolina and attend the game, hoping that we can bounce back and see what happens. Per ESPN, the Commanders-Bingos game is the first game since 1940 to go without a single punt or a single turnover in the ball game damn almost 1940 so you're talking about damn 85 they have been 85 years old joe a game in which there was not a single punt from either team and neither team
Starting point is 00:12:45 turned the football over. So it was some good clean football. Nobody brought their defenses. Everybody packed an extra offense. Right. Because they were going up and down the field. That lets you know there was no defense being played, Ocho. When you can go, think about it. Okay, I've been on
Starting point is 00:13:02 teams that we didn't punt the football. But the other team punted. Or the other team turned it. Okay, I've been on teams that we didn't punt the football. But the other team punted. Or the other team turned it. When you go an entire game and neither team punts, neither team turns it over. That's why the stat, 1940. Ain't a whole lot of people around to see that. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:13:20 There were only probably about five or six teams playing then. Maybe Washington, Pittsburgh, the Packers, the Bears. There weren't a whole lot of teams playing way back there, though, Joe. Like I said, the Packers and the Bears, we know they were playing. Washington, Chicago, they were playing. Maybe the Giants. Maybe. But there weren't a whole lot of teams.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Man, this would hurt, man. Oh. They didn't go by the name that they go by now they were the brooklyn dodgers the chicago bears the chicago cardinals the cleveland rams green bay packers the new york jets the pirates which later became the stealers and they also have a pittsburgh pirates and the washington they were known as the derogatory term. They're the commanders now, but we know what that term was. So there was two, four, six, there were 18 back then.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And that was an unbelievable stat. Earlier this week, Cam Taylor Britt had some interesting things to say about Jalen Daniels. Let's take a listen to the sound, don't you? Uh-oh. What my dog said. They don't make them do a lot. They keep it really simple for them.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Nice college offense. Kingsbury and the OC. A lot of more guys around here and there, but they'll just keep it real simple for them. I heard he's trans-percentage but he's only going short throughout some intermediate
Starting point is 00:14:46 stuff. Can I ask you a question, Ocho? Why y'all talk so much and y'all ain't one nothing? The Bengals. The Bengals. Y'all talk every year. Y'all built to beat Kansas City. Y'all built to beat
Starting point is 00:15:01 this. We this, we that. When are y'all going to win a Super Bowl? When are y'all going to do something that gives you the credence and the credibility to talk? And him, he's talking like he Rebus. Three weeks in a row, I've heard him mention, they've mentioned, he had an unbelievable one-handed interception against Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Listen, listen, Cam Taylor Britton is a very good DB. He's a very good DB. He doesn't have to be Rebus, but he's a different type of DB. But what he is, he's a good cover DB. He's a very good DB. He doesn't have to be Rebus, but he's a different type of DB. But what he is, he's a good cover man. He's a good cover man, man in man, good zone,
Starting point is 00:15:31 whatever it is that they want to do. But I think from an individual standpoint, him talking, that might be his way of playing the game. Listen, when I played, I talked every week, huh? But it's one thing I did. When I did talk,
Starting point is 00:15:44 guess who backed it up? And I asked y'all, too. I said, why y'all talking so much when y'all ain't one-ish? Hey, listen. That's the way I approach the game, whether we win it or not. Listen, we could be on 12. I'm going to be talking. We get to talk.
Starting point is 00:15:57 We get to talk, Coach O. We get to talk. We won another war. We're going to get into that a little bit later. Wait, we won what? We won another war. Man, why you ain't tell me man it's all my it's all the thing we i mean all you had to do is just look and see let's go we want another look of course so you expect him to come in as a rookie
Starting point is 00:16:19 his third his first second and third game to run an offense as complicated as Patrick Mahomes, as complicated as Josh Allen, as complicated as a guy that's been playing in the National Football League for an extremely long, extended period of time. Of course. I have a question. Yes. Do you know what happens when you have a player of his caliber that's doing what he's doing so early? We're talking about Jaden Daniels in general. You have a player of his caliber doing what he's doing so early. We're talking about Jaden Daniels in general.
Starting point is 00:16:45 You have a player of his caliber doing what he's doing so early. You watch what he did in college. Why not take what he did in college extremely well, which is the reason why he won the Heisman Trophy, and incorporate that
Starting point is 00:16:58 to what he does at the NFL level. And bingo! You get the same thing, the same high level of play the same level of high level of being able to process information being able to deliver the ball make make your decision do your reads and if it's not there put it down and run with it which is what you saw tonight maybe it maybe maybe simplifying the offense makes it that much easier maybe y'all didn't stop less all i know is y'all let a rookie with that simple offense that's very collegiate,
Starting point is 00:17:29 all I know is he completed 91% of his passes. He had two touchdowns, no turnover, and y'all didn't force a punt. So for that offense to be so simplistic, it ate y'all ass up. I mean, he was cooking. Now he going to be, guess what he about to be? He about to be player of the week. He about to be NFC player of the week over Sam Donald because look what he did on the road in a hostile environment.
Starting point is 00:17:54 That's what he did on y'all. He going to get the game ball. DQ gave him the game ball after the game. So while you over there talking, Britt, put your head down. You got your towel. You in your locker. Talk mumbling. You know, hey, we just got your head down. You got your towel. You in your locker. Talk mumbling. You know, hey,
Starting point is 00:18:07 we just got to make believe. I get up to it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hold your head up. Hey, don't talk. No, no. You talk. Don't talk about my team.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Don't talk about my team like that, man. Don't talk about them. Don't talk about my team like that. Y'all only three. I keep telling you, last year has no bearing on this year. You keep saying Y'all know we start slow
Starting point is 00:18:26 We start slow Okay Keep on starting slow Guess what Y'all in three now Yeah You got your work cut out for you Yeah we got
Starting point is 00:18:33 Work cut out We got more than that work cut out Listen if we're serious If we're serious About the end goal And trying to get to New Orleans Listen We got more than that work cut out for us
Starting point is 00:18:43 But we got to regroup. We got to look at each other in the mirror and figure out what do we really want to do? What is that trying to accomplish? Because if we come out the gate and go home full, we might well chalk a season up. I'm trying to figure out why you looking in the mirror now. So after the first game that you were in New England,
Starting point is 00:19:03 ain't won a game since, beat the Brakes off you. That wasn't a check for you? Okay, I get it. Kansas City going on the road to Kansas City. Ain't no harm in losing to Kansas City. But you told me y'all built the beat. You almost won that game, man. Almost?
Starting point is 00:19:17 You almost won that. You ever been to my diner? Who? You know my diner? What's that? All I sell is wins and losses. Dubs and L's. That's all I serve. That's all that's on the menu. You can't order
Starting point is 00:19:30 anything else. When you come to Club Shea Shea diner, you get dubs or you get L's. One thing about the NFL, it's a game of inches. And that game against the Chiefs, they ain't got no inches. We would have won that game if it wasn't for what?
Starting point is 00:19:46 At the end of the game. He ran up, ran up, ran right up. He ran in the back on John. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm just saying, you know. But you're right. But listen, we can't, we can't. We go on, foe.
Starting point is 00:20:01 If, I'm telling you now, if we go on 0-4, I'm going to go slap ass off. And I'm going to start snapping. I don't want to talk about this. I want to talk about y'all being 0-3. So what's going on, Ocho? I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Obviously, defensively, we didn't show up.
Starting point is 00:20:19 We didn't show up defensively. We have two of our deep tackles that are hurt right now. And that's it. From an offensive standpoint, we look good. Offensively, we look good. defensively. We have two of our deep tackles that are hurt right now. That's it. From an offensive standpoint, we look good. Offensively, we're good. I think we could have done more. Your defense was kicking but your offense was selling for field goals too.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Y'all were matching touchdown for touchdown. No team in the NFL has ever started 0-3 and made it to the Super Bowl. Since 1990, since the new format was instituted, only four teams have made the playoffs after starting 0-3. But there's a possibility that we might be the fifth team to make it after starting 0-3. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:21:00 There's a possibility I could win the lottery. I ain't going to buy a $200 million house to prove it. There's a possibility I could win the lottery. I ain't going to buy a $200 million house to prove it. There's a possibility I could win it. You going to buy a house that costs $40 million with the possibility you might win the lottery to pay for it? Absolutely not. Okay. I was just checking. All I need to know is what's going on with y'all offense, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:21:19 The offense didn't look that bad. Joe Burrow had a good game today. You know that. Empty calories. Did y'all ever have the lead in the game? No. Okay. At one point, y'all was down by like 13, 14, right?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah. We was able to come back. We was able to come back. Come back and do what? What's the closest y'all got in this ballgame? What was it? 13? 10.
Starting point is 00:21:47 No, 10. 10. 10. I think it was. Look, all I know is the only time that closeness matters, if you slow dancing or you throwing grenades or pitching horseshoes. Now, which one were y'all doing tonight that closeness had to
Starting point is 00:22:00 matter? I mean, I ain't slow dancing since I was in eighth grade. I remember eighth grade, we had a dance, Ocho. The chaperones kept busting my hustle. You know, I tried to get it in, Ocho. You know, I tried to get it close. I tried, you know, you know, huh? You back it up, back it up.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Get out of here, damn. That O'Shea cook. I'm trying to cook, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Hey, you know what's funny? Normally, I'm not at a loss for words. Normally, I always have a reason,
Starting point is 00:22:25 a reason for why things are the way they are, but you know, it's almost unheard of for a team, especially like the Bengals with the type of talent that they have on both sides of the ball with a quarterback. Like we do have at the helm to be on three. Like there's really no explanation for it. I can't explain it.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I would love to see the all 22 film. Um, but like, God god damn just watch this watching from afar actually being at the game tonight it is it's hard for me to explain what the problem is yeah you know we didn't play well on defense though i know i know that i know we had to say i mean consider y'all didn't play well on defense you gave up 38 points to a rookie quarterback in just his third start. But y'all was close, like me in the eighth grade. You know, I'm trying to have my hands down around the waist, and every once in a while I drop them a little lower.
Starting point is 00:23:14 They talking about put your hands on the shoulder. What kind of slow dancing is that on child? Who put their hands over their shoulders and talking about slow dancing? I ain't over into Halloween. I ain't Frankenstein. Man, I'm trying to get close. I don't try to get close. They're busting my hustle
Starting point is 00:23:31 though. They're like Washington. Bust y'all hustle tonight. It's fine. Listen, we're going to be alright. We're going to be alright. Listen, I'm trying not to get emotional and I promise myself I wouldn't cry. I don't need to be crying. Listen, I'm crying too much on this, and I promise myself I wouldn't cry. I don't need to be crying. Listen, I'm crying too much on this damn show in a minute.
Starting point is 00:23:47 No. Crying in your cry. Crying too goddamn much. But I think we're going to be all right. I'm trying to remain optimistic. I'm not trying to throw the towel in. I think even at 0-3, we might be sitting here 10 weeks from now. Hell, they might be 10-3.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Hey, I got a towel you can throw in if you ain't got one handy. You want to throw it in? Hey, listen, we got what it takes, though. What do you got to take to do what? What you mean? To turn the season around? It's still early. It's week three.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's week three. We still got 13 weeks to go. Okayoria stefan turn the beat around i'm waiting hey it's possible i'm telling you if there's anybody that can do it joe burr can do it man we put man on the moon hell anything possible yeah they got people living right now with pigs heart yeah so yeah anything, yeah, anything's possible. Hey. It ain't likely, though. We got Chase.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Chase Brown. Hey, all I know the Broncos won, went on the road, and did a number on Tampa Bay. Who? The Broncos got more victories than the Bengals. Man, y'all won one game by luck, man. Come on now. How many games have you won one game by luck, man. Come on now. How many games have you won?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Last I checked, one is more than none. Now, I ain't no mathematician. I ain't a Pythagoras. What you don't want to do is you don't want to put your foot in your mouth, talk about your Broncos winning the game when they probably— We won! How I put my foot in my mouth? I'm just stating the obvious.
Starting point is 00:25:23 We went on the road and beat Tampa Y'all at home Who y'all got next week? Whatever it is The only way y'all can catch us with one lost record Is y'all gotta win We already gotta do it I guarantee you the Bengals finish this season with a better record
Starting point is 00:25:39 And actually we'll be in the playoffs Unlike your Broncos Now let's bet that Broncos got the Jets? Broncos, we got the Jets. Oh, game lost? Yeah, you might as well chalk that up, because the way Aaron Rodgers is looking right now,
Starting point is 00:25:52 he going to pass you out of home in there. Where they play them at? In New York? It don't matter where they play them. It don't matter where they play. That definitely don't matter. Don't do that. Well, clearly it don't matter where y'all play,
Starting point is 00:26:03 because y'all lose wherever. Y'all lose in Massachusetts. Y'all go to Kansas, Missouri. Y'all losing in Ohio. So clearly it don't matter where y'all play either. Okay. Keep the same energy. When we got telling you, keep the same energy.
Starting point is 00:26:18 When we get to the middle of the season. Oh, it'd be over. You and I'll be with a, we probably be reminiscing and talk about a, talk about next season. Nah not not hey i just saw somebody in the chat somebody bangles the tank to get travis hunter hey man hey they back down hey they take if they want to paul brown ain't paying nobody he gonna stop he gonna turn the direct deposit off on everybody's check. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, break free from the chains of trauma, and silence the negative voices that have kept them small.
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Starting point is 00:28:18 It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No.
Starting point is 00:29:13 It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General. I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane,
Starting point is 00:29:43 I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see. Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best. Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction. Those convictions never wavered.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas. It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person,
Starting point is 00:31:03 he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. The Bills routed the Jags 47-10 in Buffalo. Josh Allen led five touchdown drives in the first half. All five led with touchdowns. They had 34 points at the half. Josh Allen, 23 of 30, 263.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Four touchdowns in the game. Allen also rushed a 44-yard zone six carry. The Bills have scored 30 points in each of their first three games. Not a deal. That's the first time since 2011. Remember the concerns that abolished who about the bills trading Stefan D the Jags have lost an NFL worse, eight straight games dating back to last season.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Trevor Lawrence has started each game. He joined Jim plucking as the only number one overall quarterback in the common draft. And I think the common draft goes back to 1967, to have multiple losing streaks of at least eight or more games. Lawrence lost eight straight as a rookie in 2021. At what point in time do we hold Trevor Lawrence accountable and say, hmm?
Starting point is 00:32:18 You think he's not what we thought he was? Yes. I mean, at what point do we? Now, you're going to have to guide me, chat. Y'all going to have to stay with me on this game because obviously I was at the Bengals game tonight, so I wasn't able to see the Bills demolish the Jaguars. I had no idea
Starting point is 00:32:33 the score was like that. And I'm thinking to myself, I'm thinking, listen, the Bills, you lose when you're dominant targets and Stephon Diggs, and I had no idea what they would look like. I thought it would be a rebuilding process somewhat because Josh Allen is taking up so much of that money.
Starting point is 00:32:54 So much of the cap space. It's only so much they can do offensively and putting pieces around him, but I don't know how they doing it, but he making it work. They, they making it work. Yeah. And God damn right now with the way Josh Allen is playing with them, having 30, But I don't know how they're doing it, but he's making it work. They're making it work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And goddamn right now, with the way Josh Allen is playing, with them having 30, they scored 30 this week. Tonight they scored 47. They had 30-some last week, if I'm not mistaken. And I don't know what they had in the first goddamn game. But goddamn, even though it's early in the season, Josh Allen would be the MVP frontrunner right now, based on how he's playing.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Well, I think the thing is, that's with the missing target. Well, you have to look at it like this. Now, he was a different player once he got Stephon D. He's established himself now. It's kind of like Patrick Mahomes. I don't know if Patrick Mahomes would have turned. He still could have been Pat Mahomes, but he had Tyreek. So he had Tyreek for those years, built his confidence, his ability. So now when you take Tyreek away, he's still Patrick Mahomes, but he had Tyreek. So he had Tyreek for those years, built his confidence, his ability. So now when you take Tyreek away, he's still Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:33:49 You can't really miss him other than the deep shots that they haven't been able to connect on since he's been gone. But he went back-to-back Super Bowls. He's been a league MVP, and he's a two-time Super Bowl MVP. So Josh Allen, because he had those years, he's grown. He's matured. Well, you can lose that piece once you become established. It's kind of like you starting a corporation, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Now, to build that corporation, you need certain pieces. But once you get it going, you know how to operate without a big important piece. Wait, but okay. Now that you say that that do you think that the the bills have a honest chance to get where they want to go obviously compete for a lombardi trophy in the world without without this that without one special piece to be able to get the
Starting point is 00:34:36 ball to or is it better that he doesn't have a step on digs where he has to force the ball to enforce freedom and find ways of getting the ball to keep him happy? Or you think it's better how the situation is now? I think it has a lot to do with the quarterback and how he handles that situation. A lot of guys go into a situation where it takes away from them because they're trying to keep X happy. Tom Brady knew how to do it. Tom Brady, like you said, he knew how to talk to Randy.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Hey, bro, I ain't got it to you yet, but don't think I ain't trying. Don't think I ain't looking. And you never saw anybody show Tom Brady up on the sideline, have you? You never saw anybody show Peyton Manning up on the sideline, have you? You never saw anybody show up Patrick Mahomes. You see, there has to be a certain level of respect that works both ways in order for us, if we're teammates, if we're both trying to do the same thing, don't show me up. Because guess what happens? Normally what happens when you show somebody up? You drop a couple. And sometimes it's a
Starting point is 00:35:34 crucial situation. So now the quarterback was like, you're going to feel some type of way. You have to always be cognizant of that, Ocho, because the sun ain't going to always be shining. Face, sometimes it's going to be at your back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:55 So, yeah, I think, you know, Josh, when he's dealing like this, when he doesn't turn the ball over, his only problem is turnover. For people to say he's overrated, I don't know what they're looking at. Because if Josh Allen is overrated, well, there are about 28 other quarterbacks that's over damn rated.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Josh Allen isn't overrated. Yeah. Listen, I think more so maybe he's turnover prone. And once he's being able to fix that with the decision making and most of the time, I'm trying to do too much. Oh, Joe. Every situation doesn't call for you to be Superman.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Sometimes you can be Clark Kent. Yeah. You don't know. Sometimes you can put on your hat, your top coat and just drive. You don't have to save the world every single day. Yeah. And just drive. You don't have to save the world every single day. And sometimes he gets into that mode where he tries to save the game when that's not required
Starting point is 00:36:50 of him. You have to know when to change that suit. But Trevor Lawrence, he's lost eight straight. Monday night also marked the first time DeMar Hamlin has gotten an interception it's been 630 days prior to DeMar Hamlin
Starting point is 00:37:10 remember that incident that happened in Cincinnati Ocho, he suffered cardiac arrest on the field, they had to resuscitate him, they brought him back and now he's starting for the Buffalo Bills and he got his first interception tonight congratulations DeMar He's starting for the Buffalo Bills, and he got his first interception tonight.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Damn. Congratulations to Mark. Well deserved. Well deserved. I'm very happy. I'm trying to think, where did I meet him at? Man, I'm mad, man. Friends.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Friends. Yeah, I met him in, yeah. Yeah, we were on a panel. Actually, we were on a panel discussion. Me, he, I, and Chanae. Friends. Friends. Yeah, I made him in for, yeah. Yeah, we were on a panel. Actually, we were on a panel discussion. Me, he, I, and Chanae. Right. Ogumike. And so, yeah, great young man. Understand the ordeal that he went through.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Obviously, it's tough because you don't know if you're going to ever play again. That's the last thing on your mind when you're going through that situation. I'm sure all he was thinking about, let me get healthy, and I don't want my dream to end like this. This is not how. I've got to at least try to get back. And if I get back, I can live. But at least I came back.
Starting point is 00:38:26 That wasn't, that's not what, that's not what I want people to remember me for. Laying on the field, non-responsive, being brought back and then ride off into the sunset. So DeMar, congratulations, bro. We're proud of you. We're rooting for you. You have a lot of support out here,
Starting point is 00:38:43 not just your family, friends, and loved one, but the entire football we're rooting for you uh you have a lot of support out here not just your family friends and loved one but the entire football community was rooting for you congratulations on your first interception this was supposed to be marquee year for the dolphins so far it's turned into a nightmare as it stands tour will not be able to practice and play until week eight at the earliest and even that might be a hopeful timeline. While the schedule is extremely favorable until that time, they get the Titans, Patriots, Colts, and Cardinals. It's tough to favor Miami in any of them based on their quarterback
Starting point is 00:39:13 situation. Whoa, whoa, whoa! Listen, Brother Skyler Thompson is hurt. Tyler Huntley is stepping in. Tyler Huntley has played some good football when he was with the Ravens. I think he can bring
Starting point is 00:39:28 a little bit of... It's a different type of offense, though. That was a run-based offense. This is a pass-based offense. You know what? I think even from a passing standpoint, I think he'll be a little bit better than Skylar Thompson in being able to get that goddamn ball to Waddle, being able to get that ball to
Starting point is 00:39:43 Cheezo, being able to get that ball to... Yeahaddle, being able to get that ball to Cheezo, being able to get that ball to... Yeah, I think we're going to be all right now. Got a nice little quarterback. He can pull it down the rung when he need to. It might not be as bad as you think. If he can get in the boys about maybe two and two... It's bad.
Starting point is 00:40:03 What? It's bad. So you don't believe in Tyler Huntley? You say it's not as bad as I think. Right. I think it's worse. No, it's not as bad as you may think it is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I'm not saying that we bring in Lamar Jackson. I ain't calling him Lamar Jackson, but man, he can play some ball. You know Huntley was a free agent at one time, right? He was a who? A free agent. Yes, sir. Which means any other 32 other teams, any one of those other teams could have signed him. Well, sometimes, you know, they do
Starting point is 00:40:33 that to you. You know that, huh? Oh, it's your stop. Not if you're a quarterback. They might do that to some other position. Not that position. Because it's too valuable. It's too valuable a plot of land. I was going to say something, but I ain't going to say it. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I don't even feel like being controversial. But don't worry about it. I'm going to let that one go. I think the thing is that, look, Ryan Tannehill is available. Cam Newton is available. I don't know if Cam really wants to play or if he's in shape to play football. Desmond Ritter. Ooh, possible trade targets.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Bryce Young, Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz. Wait, to go where? To Miami. Bryce Young and Tua on the same team? I wonder why they... I mean, what other quarterbacks out there that are familiar with that offense?
Starting point is 00:41:32 Well, I mean... I like Tannehill. Carson Wentz. It would have been nice. Carson Wentz ran a variance of it under Doug Peterson. Doug Peterson learned under Andy Reid. Andy Reid
Starting point is 00:41:46 got a West Coast Parcells Mike Holmgren. So it's a offshoot of it. It's not like Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and Mike McDaniel. All those guys really.
Starting point is 00:42:02 But it's an offshoot of it. Or they could tank and get the number one pick next year. Hey, I mean, you know how difficult it is. And you might get Travis Hunter or you could get Shador. Oh, okay. Wait, Jacksonville? No, Miami.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Where the boo-doh from Jacksonville? Oh, no. Wait, I'm thinking about the quarterback situation because I'm thinking about being a bust. I hate using that word. I hate using that word for that position. Especially when you go as high as number one. To Miami. It's your door.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Man, that's... No, that's impossible. You just pay tour. That's impossible. Damn, man. I mean, sometimes people build a new house and sell it. What?
Starting point is 00:43:01 Sometimes people build a new house and sell it. Nah, not really. Not really really i've never i've never heard of that one oh yeah if you build something you're gonna be that long within three or five years no i'm looking to flip are you trying maybe they're gonna get joe flacco okay not not bad now that's a good move. You talk about you want to add a spark to your offense and not miss a beat or a step. You go get your Joe Flacco.
Starting point is 00:43:33 He can sure push it down the field. Now he got an arm. Yeah, he do. He ain't going to move now. The Statue of Liberty has moved more than Joe Flacco in the last 175 years okay 150 but anyway you get where I'm going
Starting point is 00:43:48 yeah I got you 49ers fans Ocho are burning Brandon Ayuk's jersey what he do he didn't do nothing that's the point that's why they burning the jersey oh here they go man come on now man
Starting point is 00:44:04 come on fans we got fans that have stopped being so fickle you mean you're Brandon burning the jersey. Oh, here they go, man. Come on now, man. We got fans that have stopped being so fickle. I mean, you're Brandon. Listen, you paid for that jersey. You ain't hurting Brandon at all. You're not hurting him at all. Did he do something wrong with the Adam on fantasy team? Are they expecting the fact that he got
Starting point is 00:44:21 all that money he's supposed to come out the gate having a phenomenal season? He had no strength. That's supposed to come out, out the gate, having a phenomenal season. He had no, that's what they expect. Yeah. That's not, that's not the way it works. That's not the way it works.
Starting point is 00:44:31 That's where Justin Jefferson got paid. That's the way it worked. CD lamb got paid. He, he worked. Well, he got paid. It worked.
Starting point is 00:44:39 So what you mean? It's not the way it's supposed to work. I mean, Brown came out the gate, fired until he heard his hamstring. It worked. Right. Came out the gate it's supposed to work. A.J. Brown came out the gate fired until he hurt his hamstring. It worked. Devontae Smith came out the gate fired. It worked.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So I'm trying to figure out what you mean. That's not how it's supposed to work. You notice everybody you just mentioned was in training camp except C.D.? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, just making sure. Just showing you the importance of training camp and how much is needed. What do you mean training camp don't matter?
Starting point is 00:45:03 Hey, listen. Oh, shit me. Oh, it matter. You see, remember the first game he dropped on two balls remember the end zone the corner out the corner on end zone that we're right yeah i saw yeah for sure and listen i'm telling you as much as much you've been doing it all your life we've been playing for the game of football all our life there's a reason why you have practice there's a reason why you have training camp. Because in real time, you want your
Starting point is 00:45:28 hand-eye coordination to be open. You have to train the eye to be able to see that ball. No matter how easy you may think it is. Because at game tempo and game speed, it's different. Especially at night, Ocho. Because you know how easy that ball is to
Starting point is 00:45:43 get lost up in those lights. You don't realize it i mean to go from like and then especially when that ball is up yeah that's why you know that's what i tell people you catch the football with your eyes not with your hands people oh no no no you got to look that thing in and the objective is is to try to pick it up as quick as you can out of the quarterback's hand. Yeah. Because if you wait until that ball halfway, three quarters of the way there, man, oh, nah. That ain't going to work.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And then plus it's harder to catch the ball once you jump or you dive because your eyes jump. Yep. And so it's a hard throw. The hardest throw to catch is over the top because you got to track that ball from here especially if it comes over your shoulder to it
Starting point is 00:46:29 yes so you got to track that ball just like this just like a baseball player you see baseball players how they track the ball and they catch it over the shoulder Griffey was great at doing that Andrew Drones, Betts Willie Mays great center fielders can track the ball the shoulder. Griffey was great at doing that. Andrew Drones, Betts,
Starting point is 00:46:45 a lot of those center, Willie Mays, great center fielders can track the ball. But guess what? What do they say? They pick it up at the crack of the bat.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Right. See, if you don't hit at the crack of the bat, you don't know where to go and how fast you need to go to get there. So the objective
Starting point is 00:47:00 is to try to pick that ball up as quick as you can out of the quarterback's hand. And you know what's up? You know what's funny sometimes depending on how deep your rod is, you don quick as you can out of the quarterback's hand. And you know what's funny sometimes, depending on how deep your rod is, you don't even see the ball leave the quarterback's hand. You just see the offensive line and defensive line. You just see the ball shoot up out.
Starting point is 00:47:13 You just see the ball leave his hand. You try to track it the best way you can. That's why I always tell guys the best way to catch a football is to get your head around ASAP. Yes, sir. Because if you slow with your head, you couldn't be slow with your head with John because he could hit you upside your damn head. Right in the head. Man, if you were slow and people don't realize,
Starting point is 00:47:35 he's throwing that ball 40 miles an hour. That shit hurt. Right. Because you're not expecting it. Just imagine when somebody hit you upside your head. Yeah, you got to help it on, but that don't help. Right. So snap your head around, get your eyes, and try to catch the football.
Starting point is 00:47:52 But y'all in trouble. Look, I understand fans. Fans are upset that he's not off. Because remember how he parlayed into that contract. He was sensational last year, especially with Debo being out. Right. And so he stepped up and showed I can be a number one. So they just want that Debo.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I look, I get it. It's coming. It's coming. Yeah. It's coming. Check this out, Ocho. Adam Schefter is reporting. Tristan McCaffrey is seeing a specialist in Germany regarding his Achilles tendonitis.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Should the 49ers be panicking? I mean, if you're going to see a specialist in week three of the football season, and the specialist is all the way in Germany, which means all the resources that the NFL has that are actually right here in the States, don't know what's going on, and you have to go see a specialist that far away? That's right.'s where you think all the top guys going. Where you think Tiger went? Where you think Manning went?
Starting point is 00:48:50 Where you think... Yeah. Because you have to understand in America, they have certain standards that other countries will go above and beyond those standards. So if it's on somebody else's dime, hell yeah, I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Damn. Achilles tendonitis. Oh, I had it. I had it in college my senior year, Ocho. Oh, that pain was a B. So how does it work? Does it feel like you're going to... It feels like it's a sharp pain. Anytime...
Starting point is 00:49:29 Forget running. Walking was a problem. Walking was a problem. It's just like, you've never had tendonitis in your knee or anything like that. But just imagine a tendonitis in your Achilles. That was the only time that I had never missed practice in high school,
Starting point is 00:49:48 had never missed practice in college until my senior year. Think about it, Ocho, my senior year. I'm one of the top wide receivers in the country, scouts every day. I got ice, so I'm sitting out there not practicing. I got ice. But two weeks, I probably missed six, seven practices.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Wait, how many games you missed? I didn't miss no game because it was in the... As soon as we got to camp. What happened was the trainer taped me too tight and the tape cut into my Achilles. And so
Starting point is 00:50:25 that's what brought it on. And so I may or may not have gotten an injection in it. I'm going to leave it at that. I know you're not supposed to, but I just said I may or may not have. And I'm going to leave it at that. So he might miss a little bit
Starting point is 00:50:44 more time. Oh, he miss a little bit more time. Oh, he gonna miss some time. He on IR. So that's only four weeks, though. That's four weeks. Yeah. Okay, okay. They put him on IR after the first game.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Oh, okay, okay. So, okay, he still got three more to go. Yeah. Dang. But, you know, a lot of people go overseas, Ocho, because, you know, America, the USDA overseas Ocho because you know America the USDA they got standard they can only spin it you know they do that PRP
Starting point is 00:51:11 and they do that stem cell they can only spin it one or two times you know Germany they spin that thing and they spin it again and they put a little dis in here and they put a little dat in there you know they put a little that's messed up, man. I'm mad by this damn thing.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I mean, you're going there on a wheelchair, Ochoa, and then you come out doing the Tootsie Roll. Ah. Ah. I'm telling you. Damn.
Starting point is 00:51:35 I thought about going over there to get the hips worked on. But they say, Mr. Sharp. There you go. They say, Mr. Sharp. They say, Mr. Sharp. They can't do that for you. You're bone on bone.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And right now, we have a developed, we have a developed a system that'll grow cartilage. He said, if you could grow cartilage, I would tell you to go.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Right. But you can't. He said, go and get stem cell and peel. He said, all you're doing is wasting your money because the insurance doesn't cover it.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Ouch. I said, man, let me go and get these $104,000 hips. Man, your hips cost $104,000? Each. Damn, each? Each. I'm going to push you over.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Hell no. That's cool. But it work now? Yeah. It work? Oh, you good? Oh, yeah. We know.
Starting point is 00:52:27 You bet that you go, Ocho. Come on, Ocho. It's still soon, Ocho. I'm just saying. Ocho, give me a month. Let me get a month. Okay, okay, okay. Let us get at least get to October, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Okay, okay. I ain't going to say it, Noah. I ain't going to say it. I'm just saying. I mean, you said that was a layup. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah, I gave you eight.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Oh, yeah. We know that you gave me that. Yeah, I gave you Allen Hoover. You the boo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Oh, yeah. We know. Yeah, you gave me that. Yeah, I gave you Allen Hoover. You the boo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you dunked it over. You dunked it over. So, man.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I say, man. Woo. I ain't bitching nothing else about no hips or nothing. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I got you. I got you. I got you. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,
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Starting point is 00:54:30 What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No.
Starting point is 00:55:27 It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafak, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. Muhammad Ali was never afraid to express himself loudly and boldly and stays true to form in Ali and Me, an eight-part Audible original. Guided by his own words, this series explores Ali's life and legacy through never-before-heard audio recordings and discussions with those who knew him best.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Muhammad had this real sense of his own personal values and principles, things he believed in, his own sense of conviction, those convictions never wavered. Hosted by Muhammad's wife, Lani Ali, and his close friend, award-winning broadcaster, John Ramsey, Ali and Me goes beyond the boxing ring to delve deeply into Ali's extraordinary life through conversations with Billy Crystal, Mike Tyson, Rosie Perez, Common, Will Smith, and Bob Costas.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It created a North Star for me of how I want to be in the world, you know. As a child, as a young person, he gave credence to my audacity. There's no debate that this is the greatest global sports figure of our lifetime. Listen to Ali and me now on audible. Chris Long has some thoughts on coaches, common Jalen Carter on the sideline during a win over the same. Let's take a listen to what he had to say on his podcast green light hold on hold on i don't give a fuck what jaylen carter does at the end of
Starting point is 00:57:53 the game he could have done it for three more minutes flapping his gums at people inciting people on the field talking shit to whoever you want. Hold on. It's a war. It is a war out there. And if you haven't been in a game like that, don't tell Jalen Carter to calm down because I like it when he cares. And if that's how it manifests when this guy's locked in, then he needs to come to the stadium every week just like that. And that's what the vets are for. I would rather say woe than sick him.
Starting point is 00:58:34 And I am totally fine with how he showed up to go to war yesterday. You like that, Ocho? Yeah, I like it a little bit. I like it a little bit. But I don't like Jalen, the part where he was dismissing the coaches and them trying to calm him down. It's okay. You know, chirp a little bit, chirp a little bit, chirp a little bit but i don't i don't like jaylen the part where was dismissing the coaches and them trying to calm them down it's okay you know chirp chirp a little bit chirp a little bit chirp a little bit but not not not be so dismissive of those trying to get you to settle down to where it seemed like you're almost uncontrollable like right yeah i just i don't like that part but you know listen i'm all for it listen this is me now the the you know, listen, I'm all for it. Listen, this is me.
Starting point is 00:59:07 The actual trash talker. I'm all for that, especially in a way. But doing it in a controlled manner, you know, seeing like, see being irate in a sense where your coaches can't even calm. Three of them can't even calm you down. Right. Well, come on now. Come on.
Starting point is 00:59:28 But I don't want to take away from Jalen Carter on what makes him him. That ferocity. If that makes you you, so be it. But just be able to kind of take heed to those that are trying to get you calmed down a little bit. Yeah. I never really got that upset. I didn't. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Not with the coaches. mean look i i think the thing is is that coaches kind of know like who to go at and who not to go at i come off the field you know hey i don't miss the block or i drop the pass you know hey you know normally it's like hey 84 we need that come on sharper you better than that i get it but But you know, like coaches start talking too much. I just Right. That's it. That's it. I heard you. Hey, I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:00:16 if I sit in this helmet down, it's going to be trouble. But I see like, bro like bro bro calm down yeah man no no sharp man f that man i told him but i said bro i get it yes yes yes right yes yeah i don't i don't like playing it like that you can't control you right you bro you right. You right. Yeah. No, he dead ass wrong. You right. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Right. Bro. That's a good. He doesn't get to calm down a little bit. Hey, bro. What, what you need from me?
Starting point is 01:00:53 How can I help? Right now? Shop, man. I told him, man. Stop. Bro.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Yes. Just calm down. Hey, take it out on him. Don't be tearing up our sideline throwing water coolers and kicking his shoulder. Him! Get him! But it's tough on Joe, man,
Starting point is 01:01:15 because, you know, I had a couple of teammates like that, man. Man, Sharp, you need to talk. Why Sharp got to talk to him? He ain't even on Sharp's side of the football. He on defense. Why I got to talk to him? Got ain't even on Sharp's side of the football. He on defense. Why I got to talk to him? Gotta be crazy. Gotta be crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:30 I was like, come on, bro. But you know, hey, you calm him down like, hey, come on now. You got a responsibility here. People looking. It's not going to be a good look. Your family understands. Hey, let's calm this thing down.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Let's get a level head about ourselves. Let's go out there, play some football, kick some ass. Let's get this dubbing going home. We're going to laugh about it on the plane. I just want you to know I'm going to join this issue at you when I get on that bus now. Just so you know. Just so you know. Hey, just hey.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Man, go ahead, old man. That's all you do. You joke all the time, Sharp. You don't take nothing serious. I don't. It definitely not you. Definitely not you being upset on the sideline. I don don't take nothing serious. I don't. Definitely not you being upset on the sideline. I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I don't. You're right. I got a fool. Plump fool. Oh, yeah. For sure. Justin Tucker, widely reviewed as the greatest kicker, him and Adam Benataris.
Starting point is 01:02:19 However, through the first three games, Tucker is just five of eight on field goal attempts, and he's missed at least one field goal in every game thus far, including a 48-yarder in the fourth quarter. After the game, John Harbaugh acknowledged Tucker's struggles. I said that yesterday. Oh, people jumped on my timeline. Anyway, we've been together for a long time. We've had a lot of conversation.
Starting point is 01:02:44 He's everything you want in a player and a friend. For Justin, it's just a technique issue right now he's working through. He knows exactly what it is. It just needs to smooth it back out. I'm very confident he will. Ocho, will kicking problem be a problem for the Ravens? No, I don't think so. Listen, Justin Tucker
Starting point is 01:03:06 is arguably maybe one of the greatest kickers of all time. And just like baseball, sometimes sluggers, they go into a slump. And they know what they did. They know what they need to do
Starting point is 01:03:17 to pull themselves out of that slump. Listen, when it comes to kicking, Justin Tucker knows what he needs to do. All he needs to do, all you do is go back to the basics. You go back to the basics, get yourself into a routine and get yourself into a rhythm
Starting point is 01:03:30 with those basic fundamentals that you learned when you first started kicking. Then sometimes you get away from those things. Sometimes you get away from those things and I think once he does that, Justin Tucker will be alright. He'll be fine. This is coming from a kicker.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I think the bigger issue for the Ravens is them damn penalties. They had 12 again yesterday, Ocho. That's going to be... Look, you hope it doesn't come down for a kick because Justin Tucker, as a rookie, could kick the Baltimore Ravens to the...
Starting point is 01:04:02 He beat the Broncos. They went in the divisional round of the playoffs and he hit a field goal as an undrafted rookie. And he hasn't looked back since. He's made clutch kick after clutch kick. He's won a lot of ball games. He's the NFL record holder for field goals, 66 yards. Although Aubrey almost broke it yesterday.
Starting point is 01:04:19 He kicked a 65 yarder. The difference is a 65 yarder in the first quarter versus a 66 yarder at the first quarter versus a 66 yard at the end of the game to win you the game. That's the difference between Adam Vinatieri. That's the difference between Justin Tucker. A lot of kickers got legs, but can you make it when it matters?
Starting point is 01:04:35 Right. If you miss this, you're going home. There's so much different, but you know, a lot of it. Oh, like you said,
Starting point is 01:04:43 a lot of it is right here. Yeah. We've seen, we've seen baseball players we've seen chuck knoblock steve a they get the yips and they can't the ball right here they can't get anything david duball ian baker guys get the yips it's hard to if anybody can do it tuck can right boy kicking kicking is much more mental. Most definitely, especially when the game is on the line. You know what kind of pressure that is? When the game is on the line, is it kicker? I can tell you. I'm not telling you
Starting point is 01:05:16 what I heard. I'm telling you what I know because the game was on the line for me with the Bengals. It might have been a preseason game against the Patriots, but the game was still on the line. I had to make the kick because our kicker went down. And, you know, I'm perfect as a kicker in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:05:34 So technically, I could probably be the greatest kicker of all time. That isn't talked about. There's a reason. But I wish Chuck the best man look obviously everybody knows my team is the Broncos played 12 years from them but I did get two years in Baltimore
Starting point is 01:05:55 and so that's the team I root for second I want the Ravens to do well like I said a lot of people that that when I was there Ocho they gone they gone Steve Bichotti was the minority owner he ended up buying the team Ravens to do well. Like I said, a lot of people that when I was there, Ocho, they gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Steve Bichotti was the minority owner. He ended up buying the team,
Starting point is 01:06:10 but Ozzy's still there. And that's really the only connection that I have because everybody else is really gone. And I don't bother them that much anymore. But Steve has always told me, look, you're welcome with open arms. Hey, you know you and Oz.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I know you and Oz's relationship is great. But it's tough to, like, be put in a situation where, like, I kick. Because think about how many games that they've won because of a kick. And just to think that they could possibly be in a different situation because of a kick doesn't sit well with me. But hopefully he turns it around. The Ravens got back on the winning track last week against the Cowboys, and hopefully they can build some momentum
Starting point is 01:06:54 and get a couple of dubs up under their belt. Pittsburgh looks good, but we'll see what they can do once they step up and play in the division, because I don't think the Steelers have played a division game, have they? I don't think they've played a division game yet. Reggie Bush, the former USC great running back,
Starting point is 01:07:12 had his husband return back in April. Now he's suing the NCAA, USC, and the Pac-12. He's seeking compensation for the use of his name, image, and likeness while he was with the program in the suit which was filed today bush's lawyer alleged that all three entities uh made a
Starting point is 01:07:33 lot of money off the running back who was an enormous star when he played it with the trojans right the name the they named tv contracts sales, and media rights as just three of the revenue streams that Bush's popularity influenced. His lawyer said this case is not about seeking justice for Reggie. It's about setting up the precedent for fair treatment for all college athletes. Our goal is to rectify the injustice and pave the way for a system where athletes are rightly recognized compensated and treated fairly for their contributions so i mean how do you chat how do y'all feel about it okay how do you feel about it i think him suing obviously for his likeness during that time based on the money that was being made which is it getting to be up for the upwards to who knows it could be a godly amount
Starting point is 01:08:24 oh yeah yeah especially when it comes to somebody like like reggie bush you know especially during his day during his day during oh yeah in hollywood with those big oh yeah what oh yeah i mean you look at a guy like cam you look at a guy like tebow you look at a guy like johnny manziel a guy reggie bush you talk about or vince young at the, you talk about some of the biggest stars in college football ever. Now, I don't know if he can go back and do that, because then
Starting point is 01:08:52 you're going to open up Pandora's box. Because there go a lot of guys. Barry said, well, how much you think Oklahoma State made on me? And you're going to get a lot of other guys that come back and say, well, hold on. Tim Tebow in Florida. Cam go like Auburn. Y'all think about it.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Yeah, but it's never been done before. So there's a chance that he has the opportunity to win this. You know? If he didn't have a chance, I mean, he would be, his lawyers would tell him, listen, it really makes no sense to even go through with this and
Starting point is 01:09:23 waste the money. But the fact that his lawyer may feel... No, they probably saying they're doing this as part to get a percentage just in case he does win. Because you know settlements, you get 33%. Sometimes lawyers take 40%.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Dang. Yeah. I mean, they do put in a lot of work though, so I kind of understand. They put in a lot of work, though, so I kind of understand. They put in a lot of work. All right, Ocho. Yeah. It's time for Rough Draft. Oh, you're going to lose again.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Today's prompt is best NFL rookie season. I'm up first. Let's do the cut. Let's do the promo. Let's do the graphics. Okay. Okay. promos let's do the graphics okay okay okay okay i like this i like this yeah i got this one my first one oh yo you finna lose you finna lose you ain't winning like three weeks why are you going first because you went first last time that's why i I'm going first this time. All right, go ahead. All right, first up for me, I'm taking Eric Dickerson.
Starting point is 01:10:28 His rookie season, he rushed for 1,800 yards. Okay. Was rookie of the year. And later, we know what he did. Next season, he ran for 2,105. Yeah. So I got Eric Dickerson up first.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Okay, my first one, my first one, a lot of people, especially unless you're a defensive person, you might not like this, but if you watch them play back during his day, especially when he was in college, I'm going with Javon Curtis' rookie year. Okay. For me, I'm taking Randy Moss. If you saw his rookie season, Randy Moss, hey, he was Moss.
Starting point is 01:11:02 He was the real deal. He was the real deal. Well, you know what? Speaking of receivers, I'm going to piggyback off what you just said. I'm talking about another receiver who had a hell of a goddamn rookie season. And his name is Jamar, Jamar Nathaniel Chase. All right. You like him?
Starting point is 01:11:17 You know who I'm going with? I'm going number three. I'm going CJ Stratton. You know what? That was historic. That was a historic season. That was a historic season. That was a historic season. You want to give up now or later?
Starting point is 01:11:30 No, you finna lose it. The next one, this is arguably maybe one of the greatest running backs of all time in Barry Sanders. Yeah, that Barry Sanders, the one he played in Detroit. They called it Motown at Ford Field. Yeah, that was a good one, Ocho.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Yeah. Let me see. Yeah, come on, man. You're going to lose this. You know who I'm going with? Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor was defensive player of the year and rookie of the year in his rookie season.
Starting point is 01:12:00 It's over. Chad, tell him to go home. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, you think about Lawrence Taylor in his totality. We talk about his rookie year. His rookie chad tell him to go home listen you think about laurence taylor in his totality we talk about his rookie year his rookie year he only had nine and a half sacks first of all you do realize the fact didn't become an official stat until 1982 he came in the league in 1981 that'll be the player of the year and rookie, defensive rookie of the year. How many guys have ever done that?
Starting point is 01:12:28 Listen, he only had nine and a half sacks. And I'm going to piggyback off of you. I'm going to go to defensive player too. I'm going to go to defensive player and his rookie year was also phenomenal. He had 36 solo tackles with nine sacks. Maybe the greatest defensive tackle of all time who just happened to retire
Starting point is 01:12:45 in Aaron Donald. Okay. I like that. It's over, Ocho. It's over for you. You know what? I might give you a chance to come back,
Starting point is 01:12:55 but I ain't gonna. Who you got? I'm gonna go way, way, way, way back. You know what? How far back?
Starting point is 01:13:12 I ain't gonna go that far back. I will let him be my honorable mention. Yeah. You know who I'm gonna go with? Oh, Joe just had it last year. Who can the cool? Oh,
Starting point is 01:13:22 okay. That's a good one. Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. I can't even a good one. That's a good one. I can't even argue that because he was on fire last year. So this is my honorable mention right now, right? Yep.
Starting point is 01:13:38 No, you got five. This is number five for you. Okay, number five. Um... I think I don't win I don't win defense twice Matter of fact you know what I'm gonna go Cam Newton I'm gonna go Cam Newton Rookie year
Starting point is 01:13:59 4,000 plus yards 21 TD 700 700 yards on the ground 40 Yeah Yeah I'm going Cam Newton Rookie year That's my fit Okay 4,000 plus yards, 2-1 TD, 700 yards on the ground. Yeah, yeah. I'm going Cam Newton. Rookie, yeah, that's my fit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Hmm. Yeah, you definitely lost this rough draft this time. Oh, no. It ain't even close. Trust me. The chat, listen, the chat, there's one thing about them. They don't lie. And they will tell you.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Bad look here. Where do I want to go? You know who I like had an unbelievable rookie season Ocho who that do I want to go quarterback do I want to go running back you can go that that had a crazy crazy rookie season
Starting point is 01:15:03 you should have picked him. No, I'm just saying. You stuck. I'm just giving you an option. Nah. Hey, you know what? I might even put my rookie season as honorable mention. I got Eric Dixon, Randy Ball, CJ, LT, and Puka Nakua.
Starting point is 01:15:20 That's a nice little lineup. It ain't better than mine, though. Oh, it's way better than yours I ain't saying yours are some stir fry but I'm just saying it ain't good nah hold on oh
Starting point is 01:15:37 I gotta take my rest his soul Reggie White whoo that's a good one. If y'all didn't get an opportunity to see this man play, and see him up close and personal, because I saw him in his prime. I'm talking about at his absolute apex.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Yeah. I saw him with the Eagles in 92. I saw him in 93. I saw him in 96. And I saw him in the Super Bowl. So I'm talking about at his absolute apex I'm taking Reggie
Starting point is 01:16:09 I like that that's it can't even argue that go ahead uh damn that was a good one that Reggie one that Reggie one, that Reggie one kind of knocked it out the box, boy. But I
Starting point is 01:16:30 had a Shohei Otani you way before I got the Reggie. Right, right. Oh, shoot. I did Cam, Aaron Donald, I got Barry, Javon Kirst. You don't want Justin Jefferson? You don't want Dak?
Starting point is 01:16:46 Saquon Barkley? Odell? No, hold on, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm looking for, you know, somebody, I'm looking for another iconic figure. I'll give you one. I'll let you take Gale Sayers.
Starting point is 01:17:10 The Kansas Comet. You know what, I got one of them from LSU. I'm going to go with Justin Jefferson as my honorable mention. Okay, I told you that. And you know who I'm going to go with? My last honorable mention pick, Kurt Warner. His rookie year?
Starting point is 01:17:26 Yep. When he came from the CFL? Yep. He was all right. He was all right. He was all right. He was all right. He was all right.
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