Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Jerry Jones TO BLAME for Cowboys EMBARRASSING Loss + Unc CALLS OUT Bengals CHASE BROWN + BLAME Jayden Daniels INJURY on DAN QUINN

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson reacts to the Arizona Cardinals going on the road and beating the Dallas Cowboys on Monday Night football, Zach Taylor has a response for Chase Brown’s comments about the loss vs the Bears, and Dan Quinn takes full responsibility for the Jayden Daniels injury and much more! 03:45 - Cardinals Def. Bears31:05 - Zach Taylor on Chase Brown's comments40:10 - Dan Quinn takes responsibility for Jayden Daniels injury49:10 - Commanders linebacker suspended54:40 - Eagles trade for Jaelan Phillips (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That link is pinned in the chat. Cardinals beat the Cowboys to snap a five-game losing streak. Jacoby Brissette filling in for injured Kyle and Murray threw for 261 yards, two touchdowns. Marvin Harrison, Jr. had a career high, seven receptions for 96 yards in a touchdown, and he cook, DeRont. Ocho, don't give it this notion, oh, quarterback didn't have a bad game. Normally when cornerbacks have a bad game,

they're not getting targeted. Right. Hey, they were picky. They were where the ball found him. Marvin Harrison, you got it. It got so bad. I say, son, swallow your pride and tell them to give you some help. And you see they end up, all I will tell you this, Ocho,

a cornerback had 14 tackles. Yes. If a cornerback has 14 tackle, he getting cooked. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Listen, hey, did you? Did you see that route before you keep going? Did you see that route Marvin Harrison ran the patience he had on the goal? Yeah.

Slant. Hey, bro. He had, hey, Marvin Harrison should have had about about 12 catches. Yeah. He should have had about 12. Because they should have, the Cowboys should have never got the ball back. If Jacoby percent doesn't rush that throw at the end on Joe, he's wide open. Yeah.

He's wide open. And he missed him on the comeback. Remember on the comeback early in the ball game? Yeah. I'm like, damn, Jacoby, you got. They got wide open. But Jacoby percent was 21 or 31, 261, two touchdowns. He did get sack five times.

Yeah, give him another, uh, they ran the ball 29 times for 119 yards. Jacoby percent fumbled a ball. They did, they recovered all them. Well, they fumbled, but he did recover his fumble. So it was a clean game on that half. That dress got 2439, 250, one touchdown, one interception on a later attempt. But the fumble, the turnover, so they did a great job of pulling the ball out. Yes.

The Cowboys offense, you can't be this anemic with what you have offensively. You got a top quarterback. You got two top receivers. You got a top tier tied in. And really, oh, Joe, if you really look at it, they only put up 10 points. They blocked the punt. Plug it and they got to touchdown off of that. Yeah.

So the office really didn't do a whole lot tonight. No, not his game. And you got to play better than this. Is this what you showcase on a Monday night? The world's undivided attention. And that's what you put out there on. Now, I wonder what here with Jerry got to say. He probably ain't going to talk tonight.

Because, you know, hey, all I know is they got the 31st, the defense. You know who number 32. Yeah, that's us. That's us. Listen, and obviously, you know, to talk about the Cowboys, their offense has been really good. They were scoring 30 plus every game. But obviously, their Achilles heel, just like the Bengals, has been their defense. They haven't been able to stop the run.

They had some good plays the night where they were able to stop the run. But they continue to gash them, you know, Di McArdo, you know, you had 14 for 79. So, I mean, at no point in this game where the Cowboys are controlled. The momentum was on the Cardinal side from the start of the game. And listen, 2117, they really only scored 10 points

like you did, say. The block punt, special teams, I thought the momentum was swinging the Cowboys favor, but it didn't. It didn't at all. Now we can stop this notion. Oh, the Cowboys, the Cowboys aren't good. They're not, if they don't, if they don't rush,

if they don't blitz-o-cho, they trapped the Cardinals a couple of times because they came, look, their right tackles, beat them, got beat twice around the edge, Jonah Williams. I'm like, bro, y'all got, you got to be kidding me. The right tackle was terrible tonight. If they had had any kind of protection on the right side. But I guess the Cowboys say that too, because Colia's Campbell started eating at the end.

Yeah, he had two sex. He got too. Kaleas got too safe, hit it with the red and white hump. Start him outside and feel his momentum. Get him clubbing right on. Yep. But, Ocho,

ooh-wee. I mean, what is there to talk about with the Cowboys? Like I said, the offensive line isn't very good. The left guard got his ass handed to him tonight. The right tackle got his ass handed to him tonight. Terrence still is normally the right tackle. I don't know if he was in.

injured and 71 is a sub, but he got his ass kicked tonight. 52, the guard was holding all night. So I don't know what you expect that to do when he doesn't have a whole lot of time to throw the football. Yeah. But at the end of the day, you got to hold on to the ball, guys. Yeah. Javonte, you got to hold on to it.

Who's the other guy that, oh, the tight end, Ferguson. You got to hold on to the ball because you know your deep. We talked about this last night with your team. Yes. You know your defense is porous. The last thing you can do is put them back on the field. Yeah. Yep.

You can't do that. I don't, I didn't think, I didn't think that played bad. I thought he spun the ball really well. Yeah, he did. But with the pressure that he was getting, and they was doing it with four. It wasn't like they were bringing gas on Joe. They were doing with four. And when they ball pressure, Javante William was dropping thunder on those,

oh, those corners and safeties. Yeah. And that was coming, Javante dropped. I know it felt like trees falling on the head. Yeah, he was running very hard. But also, on the Cardinal side, I don't hear enough about him as good as he is, especially tonight.

I'm glad he had a prime time game, but they got them trade McBride on. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, no, no, he good. Did you see the route? I tweeted the route. If you watch him when he ran that, when he ran it was kind of like a half corner

and a half what we call an option, while out, is that he got to the guy, and he arm over. A lot of guys, see, that's what you could tell a receiving tight end. A normal tight end would have collided him. They try to get separation. The guy holds him.

Now I get a penalty. I want no damn penalty. I want a touchdown. Because somebody, they're going to hand the ball because they go hand the ball to the running back and run a quarterback's knee. No, I want the touchdown. So he got right up on him.

He didn't know what he's going to do. Bro, he gave up his leverage quick. I don't know why he gave up the leverage. And then he just right arm over the top. and with the arm over the top, now you're done. Because he's already outside of you. So now he breaks away. Jacobi Brissette did a great job of throwing the ball.

I thought Brissette threw the ball exceptionally well. He had a couple of misfires tonight. But I thought he played really, really well. Hey, they probably said, hey, Kyle, take another week. I mean, listen, listen, they just, they won the night, but they were on a five-game losing streak. Even though they were losing, Jacobi Bissette has been playing a phenomenal football

in place of Kyle and Murray. Yeah. I think they would want Kyla Murray to hurry and get back for the simple fact that Jacobi Rosset, as well as he's playing, he is a statue back there in the pocket. Yeah, yeah, he don't have. Kyle Murray as that dynamic of being able to be a dual threat

and extend plays a little bit more than... Yeah, bumble internal and a pick. Yeah. But if you think about it, Ocho, they had Tennessee beat. DeMarcoo had an 80-yard touchdown and he dropped the ball, throw it got into the end zone, and it was a touchback. and they never got the momentum back after that.

So they shouldn't have lost that game. I mean, that was just careless. But think about it, he learned his lesson. He did a first down. Instead of running out of bounds, he slide down. Let's keep the clock moving. Yeah. But, you know, sometimes guys have to go through stuff early in that.

The Cowboys' offense moved the ball well and spots. They turned the ball over on down. They had the punt. And the Cardinals punt at Ocho. How much time does he think he got to punt the ball? did you see how long it took it take him to punt that ball and he's supposed to one step and hit that he's supposed to one step even if it's not one step if you think about if you watch the elongated step now and uh because i i'm telling what i'm thinking right having been on the punt team and knowing

how long from snap to punt the guy's 13 yards deep it should be that ball should be often 2.2 or less right 2.2 or less you go over that you're asking for trouble trouble yeah that's why we the guy did give up inside pressure and williams did a great job because think about ocho the guy the ball didn't hit him in his hand it hit him in his epithead yeah you know how long is step and how much penetration somebody got to get for the ball to miss their hands and hit him in the head yeah that all the for the for the punter what the punter has to do you talk to a former kicker who's a field okay and i was the backup punter as well you have to shorten your step you don't have to you do you don't have to elongate your your step just to

get into it you got to shorten your step and come and come through come through with the kick which you follow through with your hips to get that ball out of there he's trying to probably he's trying to put some distance on it so he's like hey let me let me drive this and so I got to take a got to take an extra but you can hold on hold on Williams almost blocked the second one yes yes because he that elongated stance and he's planting the ball from down you see how he's dropping the ball oh come on now yeah The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News dives deep into one big global business story every weekday. A shutdown means we don't get the data, but it also means for President Trump that there's no chance of bad news on the labor market.

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But when you look at the Cowboys, the Cowboys are the Cowboys on paper. They're nothing special. They don't put fear in anybody's heart, especially defensively. They don't have anybody like, oh, my gosh, man, oh, man, that's T.J. Watt, that's Miles Garrett. That's this one or that. They don't have nobody like that. Yeah, no. But offensively, they are scary.

I mean, they didn't show up tonight, but they've been scoring 30 plus each game. The problem, again, for them has always been the same problem that we have down there in the ASC North is they're defensive. If they score 33, the other team scores 35. If they score 40, the other team scores 45. So they're having the same issues. What they have to do offensively, DAC knows it, Citi knows it, Williams knows it, and George Pickens is you have to minimize turnovers.

You have to minimize the penalties as well to make sure you don't put your offense in harm's way. Making difficult plays having 13 and 17, I mean third and third and 17, you know, Third and third and eight, a third and ten or more. So if they can do that, I think they will be fine. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. What's the Cowboys record now after losing the night?

Three, five, and one. Three, three, five, and one. Yeah. So they got seven games to go. You went out, now you're, if you went out, if you went out, if you went out, so that's seven games to go. So that means you're 10, five, and one. Right.

You got nine games to go. Mm-hmm. You got eight games to go. My bad, eight games, eight games, eight games. eight game they're at nine they play 17 so if you went out you're 11 5 and what do you think the likelihood they went out well that that's difficult exactly that's my point but you're saying something very interesting they got a good offense okay you got a good offense but if you got a good offense and your defense is terrible what can't you do turn it over turn over yeah and hold on

not only turn over no penalties no penalties because the penalties is kill you holding calls that to kill you push you behind the sticks yeah pick pick pick a GP you've been having a hell of a season. You've been having a half the season. Hey, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't, don't, don't cause your team. Make it, make it easier.

And what you've been doing all season long, you know, they set them back, even though DAC was able to run for that first down, it was able to run for that first down and get it. Don't, don't send them back no further, though. But other than that, I mean, what did Troy Vincent say? They're putting an emphasis on what?

Unsporsing like conduct penalty. Yeah, and they're not, hey, they're not going to let you put the ball in the guys's face. They're not going to let you do this in the guy's face. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know I'm going to do this to your team last night. What you're going to do that? Don't do that.

They're not going to let you do that. Right. They're not going to let you trash. They're not going to let you look at catch a ball and then stare at the sideline and do all that stuff. They, they, the NFL has said they're doing, putting an emphasis on. Yeah. Sportsmanship.

That's what they're saying. Yeah. It's, is, every, every eight. Oh, Joe, you do, did he does, did he realize the is standing right there looking dead at it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, somebody screamed something to him on the sideline. His team, because they picked, no.

Right, it was too late. Too late. Yeah, it was too late. Yeah, it was too late. The Cowboys' offense, three turnovers, turning the ball over on downs, twice. On Stephen A show earlier today, Jared Jones hit it. The Cowboys have made a trade, but wouldn't say with whom, for whom. Though Jared said last week, he doesn't think one player can make the Cowboys' defense competitive,

He indicated to Stephen A, the trade involved a defensive player. Immediately it will, immediately it would have them on the field and it will address some things that have been our shortcoming. Well, first of all, unless you blitz, you can't rush the quarterback. You can't stop the run. So I'm trying to think, who are you getting? And you know what's funny, too, when I think about some of the players,

I mean, is it Trey Henderson? I mean, Trey Henderson is healthy, you know, over with the Bengals. Obviously, it gives you, it solidifies maybe a defense, the end. Listen, Trey who had back-to-back 17 sack game seasons, but our defense is still ranked 32nd. So does he really move the needle? If you add him, add him to your defense. I mean, probably he'll make some plays, but it doesn't really change much. It doesn't really change much. For their defense, they don't have to do a whole overhaul, but you need three pieces on. You need three pieces. You need somebody up front. You need somebody at the second level.

that is good and consistent and you need somebody well we thought well the Ron Blan didn't have a night to night but he's decent he has to play much much better especially when you're going to follow when you're going to be following and shadowing the number one. He shouldn't do that

they should let him let him play sides he's not that guy he's not a satan he's not a stingly he's not one of these granted he got paid like one-o-cho yes but he's not he doesn't have frequent fly-miles he can't travel anytime you want to

right he's not on the buddy pass you know hey Sartan got a buddy pass right he can fly anytime he want to Stingley has a buddy pass he can fly anytime he want to those guys uh uh uh uh Gonzalez is in terrific yeah man we gotta stop this notion oh he got paid just because you get paid we've seen a lot of guys get paid right they got to pay somebody yeah but but listen they ask when you when you make that kind of money they ask you to travel they do

They're asking more of you, you know. You got to take on that tall tag. I ask him not to. They ask me to travel. I ask him to say, I don't want to travel this week. Hey, you got to. Like I said, I've seen guys get beat, but I've never seen a number one guy,

and he's the number one guy now, get targeted. Yeah, of course time got beat. Of course, Revis got beat Rod Woodson. But just to say, you know what, we're going at you. No matter what. What? Yeah. Nah, hell no.

So I wonder what an excuse him today because for like six weeks and we're going to get to that what Jerry said about Michael laying on the table and I told you I said, Ocho, that ain't a good look. Right.

I said that's, Ocho, that's not a good look. I said, you thumb your nose up at Jerry and you know Jerry's one of these guys that's vindictive. You know this. Oh yeah, absolutely. But I don't know what,

I don't know. before the game, Marvin Harrison Senior said it's very hard for me to watch the Cardinals offense. And you can quote me on that. The style of offense that I'm accustomed to that I'm used to watch it as a professional eye as a wide receiver. I just can't relate to watching that office.

That style of offense, basically, I can't relate to what goes on there. I think that's peacefully put without pointing fingers or anything. It's just me. I'm giving you the professional eye. I can't relate to it. and it don't add up to me.

I can't deal with it. Ocho. Yeah. Marvin has to understand. Who did he have his entire career? Paid and absolute manning. What the hell? Paid the absolute manning.

Of course the office don't look like that with your professional eye. Do you realize you had a top three quarterback in the history of the game throwing you the ball, the lion's share of your career? Mm-hmm. I don't know if he played. Did he play with Andrew Luck? I think he might have played one.

We might have played one year or luck. So think about it. You go from one number one overall draft pick to another one over one draft pick. Now, granted, his first two years, I don't even know who the quarterback was. Maybe, maybe, uh, Jim Harbaugh might have been the quarterback

when he got there in 96. I'm thinking Jim was the quarterback. I don't know who was the quarterback in 97, but because Marvin got there, he was in the Kishan draft in 96. Yes, yeah. Kishan, Massim, Muhammad, all those guys were in the same draft.

But that's, that's what he's used to. Oh, okay. So. Yeah, I said Marvin Harris is used to seeing football play in a certain manner. He's used to see an offensive play, I mean, offensive play style. He's used to seeing it in a certain manner. And it's based on his experience being withinapolis Colts. And that's not what the Arizona Cardinals are.

That is not what they are at all. Not even close. Yeah, and I had to learn that, Ocho, because for the boy, for 10 years of my career, I had seven of the quarterback, and you take for granted, like every quarterback is like this. She.

No hell it ain't. No. I had to learn the hard, because the way the quarterback, and you talk to any receiver, they'll tell you, the quarterback will tell you what you need to do. When he would put the ball between the eight and the four,

he's telling me there's danger on both sides. God, yeah. If he put it on my back, he said don't you turn right right you better say let me take you where the ball's going yeah if i lead you i'm telling something's behind you yeah you take that for granted you like oh bro you just put that over like that until you go and you till you play with another quarterback and they put the ball right here you turn right there and that guy hit you dead in your face yep yeah so i get what marvin's saying that's his son and rightfully so i get it but marb you got to understand bro

you had Peyton. You had Peyton basically from 1998 until 2008 when you called it a career. So for about 11 years, you had arguably one of the two best quarterbacks in the league at that time. It was him and Tom. Yep. And so when it's all said, done, you got a top three, top four quarterback in the history of the game, throwing you the football for the lion's share of your career. So you're right.

And it's hard, Ocho. It's really, really hard. This is why I don't coach. It's because when you, you know how things should look. Right. know how things should run. Me being a special teams player, I know how long the punch should take to get off.

And granted, it was a lot of penetration, but if you get the ball off in normal cadence, that ball isn't getting blocked. Not even close. And especially not allowing hitting the guy in the helmet. Yes. Definitely not. I can see if the guy,

Ocho, you know, sometimes the guy you lay out. Okay, the guy lays out, you got it. Yeah. Bro, I'm like, damn. He's like, he just, Like a stroll in the park with his wife or something. Hey, get the damn ball out. Yeah.

I guarantee you the special teams coach. And so I ask, because a lot of times this is why I don't watch with the sound and I like to be in my own home. A lot of times these guys that call the game, they were ex-players. What were they thinking? So I asked, I say, so what did Troy say? Troy said the same, they said Troy basically said the same thing that I said. Okay.

Because I'm, look, I get it. It was a blocked punt. Kudos to the special teams. But at the end of the day, I wanna know why that punt was blocked. How long did it take it? Was that a normal cadence? Was that a normal sequence?

Was it the normal 2-1-2-2-2-3? Or was it longer than that to get off? Because if it was, that explains why it gets blocked. That's why they're timely, don't you? If you notice in practice, you've been in practice when they're doing special teams. You got the clock. Special team coaches right there.

You got the clock. But snap down to hold a kick, I need to know. It's got to be this. It's got to be this. It's got to be this. It's got to be this. It's got to be this. It's got to be this.

And also, that's on the special team too now. Once that ball is snap, everything's supposed to squeeze down. There should be no penetration, especially out of the middle. The fastest way to get to the punter is right up the middle. So if there's any penetration in the middle, you know, they squeeze the track. You ask you for trouble. Yeah, exactly. You ask for trouble.

You always make them run to loop. You make them run to farthest distance. You make them run around. Yes. And if the guy comes from around and block it, You way too damn slow. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

I just don't, give me the Cowboys schedule, Ash. Give me the Cowboys schedule the next. Hell, I thought that was going to go out of the game because I think it was Colise Campbell got him early when he rolled out and rolled up his ankle. Yeah. But Dad had some sweet, them fours was nice. You see them blue fours he had on?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wish we had some joys like that when we could have got me a pair of them. Yeah, them thing was nice. Hey, man, these guys be having some smoking shoes, But everybody shouldn't be having smoking shoes. I mean, I see guys down on special teams playing like 5, 15 snaps, and y'all got on patent-level shoe. No, no, you had to be a hell-raiser.

Oh, so are you trying to say you got to be special with them kind of shoes? Yeah, you should be. Oh, Joe, they're at the Raiders. That's Monday night, isn't it? They had the Raiders on the 17th. So they're coming up on the buy then. They got their buy. And then they're at the Raiders.

They get the Eagles at home. They get the Chiefs at home. at the Lions, Vikings at home, charges at home, at commanders, at Giants. Ooh. They got a schedule. Hey, that's hell right there, boy. Yes. That is hell.

Now, I'm curious, whatever, whatever trade did happen with the Cowboys, it has to come out tomorrow by 4 o'clock, if I'm not mistaken, right? Yeah, absolutely does. Yeah, I'm curious to see who that is. It absolutely does. Boy, they got the, hey, Eagles, Chief, Lyons, Vikes, Chargers. Hey, that's nasty work right there, too.

If I'm the cheese hell, I'm trying to make a trade, too. They need to go get a defensive player. They need to get a lineman. They can't generate pressure. They're not getting pressure like they once could, Ocho. Wait, Chris Jones. Who's at the end? Colopthus.

Colophis. They got to go get somebody. Chris Jones. You see the Eagles made a move for Jalen Phillips. Yes. Because they realize they're not getting pressure. You can't, Ocho, you can't. You can't.

You got to be able to get pressure or you got to sacrifice your back in. You got to have a disruptor at some point. You got to. At some point. So I don't know where the Cowboys, Arizona needed this win at three and five. I don't think they can do it.

They can cause any damage in the NFC West because the Rams are better team. 49ers are a better team. The Seahawks are just a better team. Way better. They're better teams than what the Cardinals are. But whatever reason, the cards always have the Cowboys number.

They normally run the football. One year they ran the ball for like 200 yards. I mean, Cowboys still can't stop to run. They still can't stop the run, Ocho. Hey, every, you know, it was so unfair too, every time I see that toss, that toss crack or just that toss, toss in general, and that guard pulling, I feel sorry for D.Bs.

I feel sorry to D. You can't cut them anymore. You can't cut the offensive lobby. Remember, you used to, you could undercut them, Ocho. You got to step up and take that punishment. Yeah, you normally, I mean, how it was during our day. You know, D.B. I mean, D.B. going there, go straight for the, for the lime and legs.

Go low, yes. Create a pile. You create a pile as fast as you can and make them go back inside and hope your pursuit is coming. Because what at the committee looked at, and it's like, guys, you're putting us, you're putting us in harm's weight. Yeah. If you allow them guys to cut our legs, you don't let us cut anymore. Right. But you're going to let us come down there full speed, and the guy can just go low.

Mm-hmm. because they cut it out on special teams also used to be able to cut on kickoff yeah and kick returns like nah that that's you're asking for trouble but the cowboys they got hey they get a buy week they get the whole week off Ocho mm-hmm because you know in the buy long's not Ocho you got to get the whole week off yeah I just want to see what they bring in that that's that's I'm and Jerry said it himself one player's not going to make a difference one player's not going to make a difference, but I'm sure whoever it's going to be, he's going to praise him like hell.

Yeah. It don't matter. Can he play? Yeah. Well, can he play? Can he make a damn difference? Have you ever seen a frog not praise his own pond? Ooh, but that's a, that's a good one, what?

Man, we got the, we got the bluest water. We got the most fish. We got everything you need right here. Name a frog that doesn't praise his own pawn. Name a time a coach or a team, don't praise his players, rightfully so. But am I taking Jared words? Now, if you want to talk about business,

this $100 billion deal that he was so elated about? Right. I'm all these. Oh, Joe. Yeah, I'm all. You got my undivided attention. When it comes to a player, man, I ain't listening to Jerry.

I'm not. I mean, other people can't because I'm not. Because he don't. Nobody can come in here and do a better job at General Manager. I can name five people that can come in and do a better job. A five, hey, like you told Jimmy, you can have 500 people to coach that team. I can name 500 people that can do a better job than what you do. I can name two that's over there in your same division that could change your whole franchise around.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, Howard Roseman. You know, you get Harry Roseman. You get Brent Veach, the one in Kansas City. You get Brian Gunickis, the one that's in Green Bay. You get homes in Detroit. Yeah. You mean to tell me, based on the young talent that they've got,

and the people that they brought in, they can't do a better job than Jerry. And listen. Detroit used to be laughing stock. Now they got the highest ticket price because everybody wants to go. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Kansas City. really

Harry Roseman nothing else needs to be said think about all those teams man please Zach Ocho your team Zach Taylor took exception to comments made by Chase Brown after yesterday's loss to the bear

saying that the running back's critique was better left unsaid we said this Ocho that's not how we want to react and one of our best players one of our most high character players I think in a moment of frustration said that.

I don't expect that to happen again. Taylor said he takes exception to such comment from players who are not doing everything they can to help the team win. Brown was a key third down drop that forced the Bengals to settle for a field goal. Taylor also brought up Brown's miscommunication era that took points off the board. I love Chase to Death. That's the part of the conversation with him. this is a little little bit of outside of you you see what I'm saying what I'm saying ohcho

now you understand when we talk about Ocho that's why you keep your mouth shut which is why I never even when I played on I never chastised anybody whether I played good whether I played bad whether the defense played bad or whether the offense played bad I'd never said anything because there's a microscope there's a microscope under you that you can't see you can't see it you can't see it all of us make mistakes again we practice to try to be as perfect as possible, but it's almost impossible. Chase Brown, he's talking trash, he's upset, he's frustrated, talk about the defense. Well, hell, you had mistakes as well.

That could have changed the outcome of the game. And you didn't even realize it. But until the coach brings it up to you with that magnifying glass, wait a minute, ain't this you? Ain't this you? You got to be careful. That's why Jamar said what he said. Jamar said what he said.

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stephen curry book dot com don't miss stephen curry's new york times bestseller shot ready available now But this is why you talk about, man, they person got a dirt. Man, they house dirty. And you got rats riding around and dune buggies in your house. Bro, you can't do that. Because let me tell you what happens, Ocho. When you criticize someone on your team, guess what that does? Everybody starts watching every move you make, every route you make, every block that you do.

Every time, they watch everything. Yeah. And then they come back and say, hey, this you? Yeah. Yeah, you gotta be careful. And also, that's why. And everybody's like, he has a right. No, I'm not saying he doesn't have a right.

But unless you're going to go out there and be a per, be perfect. Perfect, yeah. 65 plays for 17 games. Yeah. Shut up. Shut up. And you know what also? And nothing good comes from it.

Hey, and stuff like that, that could, that could, that could spend, that could spend the locker room, huh? That could, hey, it take, it take way, it take one defensive player. to say something and all hell gonna break loose in there take one defensive player just one

man who in the fuck you think you is boy yeah hey you do realize you're not Jonathan Taylor right you know you ain't say Juan right

you're not Derek Henry yeah I ain't tell you what somebody told you I'm telling about what it's like being at a locker room and I've been in a locker room where we

our offense was I don't think we were as bad as the Bengals defense well we were pretty bad whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa that's not necessary oh my man but I'm just context Ocho

you know you have to provide context for people context but you have to keep everything in house you have to yourself I've been frustrated but when I'm frustrated I'm not talking

I'm not talking to no girlfriend I'm not talking to my home boys because that pillar talking, pillar, that's something else that'll break up a locker room too. Yeah. Pillow talking? Yeah.

They get to talking with their girlfriend. They'll be talking to talking to one girlfriend, one wife, and all the stuff, what, what, what, what, and it all get back. Damn. You and I can speak from personal experience

having been in a locker room, had it been in a situation, and see how things can spill over. I don't know. I think sometimes people like, well, let him tell the truth. It's true. It is.

It's absolutely true. Some things you can't say. Bad. But unless you're playing perfect, shut the hell up. You got to keep it quiet. It's really that simple. Boy, there have been times.

Also, even I had some of my best games. I'm talking about some of my best games. I'm talking about 170, 182. Yeah. boy I said boy I'm sure glad we didn't have to come in to watch this take because boy my block it was some trashed no matter how good you played there was some times on you're like oh damn hey my bad t-d you know what I'm saying hey but I tell you what I didn't get you are going to cross my face oh yeah I'm watching these guys Lord have

mercy guys if there's a guy head up you right and there's a guy coming down, you look up and you see a guy coming out outside. The guy that's on you, he ain't going outside because he no longer has contained. The guy back there has contained. He's going to cross your face. Yeah. You got

to wash him. I'm like, how many times do I see you guys do that? Yeah. I watch Jonah Williams give up a chip. The guy he gets, the guy chipped him. Yeah. And he let it get I say, son, if you had a brain, I know you walk backwards.

Boy, I'm looking at somebody. But that's what's the frustrating part, Ocho, because I know these guys how much. They, I don't want to, but I'm saying, I know how hard I studied what I studied and what I was looking for cues. Just the little thing. Because these guys get paid too. I had to tell Mike that. Mike, like, hey, 84, you got to beat that guy.

I say, Mike, his check hit direct deposit too. Mm-hmm. He get paid? What the hell? You think I'm the only one getting paid in this, man? Right. He gave me a little ride smile. Come on, bro.

But I'm saying there are certain things, Ocho, that will give you an advantage. That's why we watch. If we couldn't gain anything from watching film, Ocho, hell, we just show up and play on Sunday. Yeah, absolutely. What the hell am I hearing this cold or when it's 105? or when it's 20, when it's 10 degrees, why am I out here if I can't gain nothing from watching film?

Yeah, absolutely. But man, I knew, I knew this. We talked about it last night. I'm like, bro, I understand your frustration. You scored 42 points. You scored 14 points in 49 seconds. I say, but bro, you can't do that. You cannot, cannot, cannot.

And people, they don't, like I said, no, Joe, some things you have to be in that environment for you to understand. I don't know what it's like to be a coal miner. I don't know what it's like to work on the sanitation department. I don't know what it's like to do certain jobs. But when it comes to a locker room environment, a team environment, I know certain things that will go and certain things that won't go.

And this is not going to be acceptable. And I have to give the guys a lot of credit because we were good and terrible in 2000. And the defense never said anything. Now, behind closed doors, you're like, man, Shahey, y'all got to do. Y'all got to get was more than what y'all. I said, I know, I say, I know, bro. I know. And, you know, talking to Brian, I said, Brian, bro, what, what, what we doing?

Hey, y'all, J.O. was there with you? Yeah, J.O. was there, yeah. All right. Or, Ogden? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay.

You know, J.O. and Ray came in together in 96. Okay, yeah, that's right. And then Peter Bowler came in 96. and I think Stark came in 98, Chris McAllister came in 99 because Jamal was 2000. Jamal and Travis Taylor, I think, was 2000.

Hey, well, y'all, who did it? Who were drafting in? Ozzy. Did he got Ed Reed? Did he got Suggs? He got Yandy. He'd know how to pick him, boy. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. Hey, don't think he has had any, It ain't in the stew. It's still in the stew. Oh, yeah. But yeah, it's just, I knew this was going to cause some conflict. Yeah, yeah. Just don't, hey, I'm going to let the coach handle that.

Come on, guys, pick it up. We got, hey. Dan Quinn took full responsibility for keeping Jane Daniels in the game during the fourth quarter, acknowledging it was a mistake that led to Daniels dislocated elbow. Man, I missed it. That's going to be the last drive for a couple of guys. Jaden and Zach, Debo, Tunsel.

We were going to have run plays, meaning no carries for the quarterback on a run. Honestly, man, that's where I missed it. Of course, he could scramble. It's Jaden and is what makes he special. That's what he's special at. And it's 100% on me. Ex-ray Daniels did not reveal any fractures.

A person familiar with the situation said, Quinn had no timetable for the star quarterback's recovery. It'll knock him out for, while in Rappaport Daniels expected to miss several games. Oh, Joe, we were, I mean, this ain't no, this ain't no, yes, yes. Yeah, well, what if he, please, chat, can y'all spare us this? What if he had got hurt in this first quarter?

Yeah, he could have got hurt the first quarter. But if the score was, if the score was 38 to nothing, 38 to 37 in the first quarter, right, he's probably going to play to the half, but it was 38 to 7. Yeah. What was going to be gained? I just want you, what was going to be gained from that?

All you did was increase because it's not like the defense going to like, hey, man, we already got the lead, so let's not. That was just a routine tackle. Yeah. He's trying to protect himself and he puts his arm down. Down, yeah. And with that kind of pressure, it doesn't take a whole lot to pop a joint out. Yeah.

I mean, honestly, I wish he hadn't put his hand out. I wish he was just roll with it. roll with it. Your momentum is already going that way. Just roll with it. Just let the body go and just roll with it. Trying to put that hand down with that kind of pressure with a guy twirling you.

Yep. It's going to happen every time. Some got to give. Something got to give. Just like I knew Christian Luke McCaffrey. When he got hit, I said he broke his collarbone. Oh yeah, absolutely. Because did you see, what was it? Is it 95

and 96 or 94 and 95? They got two, three hundred pounds at the, uh, at the four, at the fives. Oh, yeah. I say, oh, he broke his collarbone because he got pinned. Yeah. Same thing happened to me, but it was a smaller guy that fell on me, Ocho, hammer, arm, pin just like this. Yeah.

He cut me over. Pout. Ah! Hey, teacup, you can look at somebody when they fall on Locho, and you know exactly where to see it, what it is. Yep. Because you've done it. Yep. Somebody get crunched.

I said, oh, yeah, his shoulder. Mm-hmm. I'm dislocated my shoulder, to both of them. Rest your soul, Dave Durson, tackle me in a preseason game, Ocho. Fell on this one, dislocated. He fell on top of that,

separated the other one. I'm like, dang. Now, I walk around here like Frankenstein. Oh, man. Can't sleep. But you know what, Ocho, we had a game. Hey, that was in, what year was that? Don't tell me you shot yourself up.

Did I? And you went and played? That happened on a, that was a Thursday. We played that next week. We played, as a matter of fact, we played the Raiders on Sunday night. Shot him up. Give it to me, come on, Doc, come on.

You was that there. Oh, you, go to them, son of you. Hey, I wish I understood, I actually knew what that stuff was like so I could actually be able to be able to talk about it. But what I am good at doing is because I've been around it so much and I've seen it so much is I can see a person get tacked,

or I can see how a person falls, and if they don't get up, you can tell exactly what's wrong with them. You know exactly what it is every single time. Yeah. Hey, you remember, hey, well, uh, uh, uh, the first Batman when the Batman was coming in

and the Joker Jack Nicholson was pulling, he pulled out of that big old long gun, pulled it out of pants and come on, you gruesome son of a. Hey, that's what I was like. Ocho, you got to grit your teeth. Hey, I get that towel. And bite on it.

Ah! Hey, and then you can feel, you can feel whatever, whatever the fluid is going in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They put that cold, they put that cold spray. Because I had to get, you know, here in the back, both so I had to get four shots. Damn.

And as a matter of fact, Ronnie, lot was at the rate of at the time yeah we ran like a crore like a tosser so I push up and when the safety come down I peel off you gotta you gotta you gotta crack you caught you I bet he hit you right on that shoulder can you forget oh Joe you forget you forget right you know I'm like okay you know I'm saying I forgot because normally if you got one shoulder injury you try to use the other shoulder right well I forgot both shoulders messed up so I try to you I'm naturally right so I'm on the right side so yeah right man it's like electricity go all through my body

I'm talking about everything I'm talking about Ocho I'm talking about I was just like trembling I said Lord I can't do it no more hey that was it that was it that was it that was it that was it that was it that was it there's been there's been two times that's happened me and my and when I'm talking about my like my body went numb right I hit Ken I was playing full back at the time I used to have a cowboy collar on Ocho right and it was a matter of fact it was just it was 92 and we had a draw play so you know Ocho I shuffle over right hit Ken North being Ken Norton hit Bha like I'm talking about like two rams well he way bigger to you hey you got to sell out Ocho because

guess what I know what he thinking he looking like I ain't going to all lay it. Right. Because if I owe him, the back going to go where I went from. The opposite way. So, hey, I'm going to take him head on. I know that. So, hey.

I said, man, you feel. I say, man, you felt, I say, you felt daddy's like. Yeah, man. That was a good one. Oh, Ken Nord. Bad. But if it was back of the day, I said, man, this ain't for me.

This ain't for me, Ocho. I need to start catching pavis, man. This was early in Korea. Early back, yeah, yeah, because I was mainly used as a blocker. Okay. Because I was a big ride receiver.

So when we run, like, we run sweep or something, because I could push up the corner and then come crack the safety. Safety. You know, it didn't matter. was Fulcher, if it was Eddie Anderson, if it was Ronnie Lott, them big sages like that, they look it up why I received, we're trying

to declet them. But they weren't doing that with O'Shea. Hey, oh, Shee. Well, you realize everybody you just named, come down hill to the party? Yes, yes, yes. That's how that's how I earned my strike. I went back and down for nobody.

Yeah. Oh, Joe, that's not I got a standard league, coach. I wasn't catching those 70, 80 passes back then. I'm catching seven passes. I'm catching 21. passes. Right. Oh, bro. Hey, you got the, you got the field shape? Yeah. Oh, for sure. So, and that mean, you were just like me. Yeah. You know, you know, I, listen, you know, I ain't seen nobody. And I don't care who it. I don't care. I don't care how many times I lose. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because you know back there, oh, Joe, hey, them joke with a receiver. Oh,

they look at the blow a receiver up. Sometimes they would run past the running back just to get a shot on you. But, you know, I had to practice against Atwater and Dennis Smith every day. Oh, boy, Atwater, that's another one. Yeah. Hey, listen, Steve Atwater, Ronnie Lott, Donovan Darius. Boy, them people ain't had no regard for their body, man. David Fulcher was a big safety play for you guys.

Another one, yeah. Eddie Anderson. The reason I got fin so much, so much, man. Eddie Anderson with the Raiders, Mark Carrier. We had Rodney Harrison. We had Chuck Cecil. Oh, yeah, Rodney, Rodney, another one, too. Oh, man.

To the party. Rodney was in our same division. Yeah. But I ain't never had no problem. Before the game, hey, hey, sharp, I'm going to keep it. Hey, stay on my knees. I ain't going to, hey, we good. Yeah.

We're going to have some good old battles, but, hey, ain't going to be no cheap stuff going on. You can, you can respect that. Ocho, Commanders, linebacker Frankie Leibu, was suspended without pay for one game, repeated violation of the hip drop tackle. Louis will reportedly appeal the ruling. If he loses, it could cost him more than a half million dollars. The NFL rule Lovo violated the policy again in the first quarter on Jackson Smith and Jigba. It was Louis' third time being fined for hip drop tackle, leading him to become the first player suspended under the rule.

He was fine for violating the policy in weeks four and eight. If the suspension holds, he would forfeit a game check worth, check this, oh, Joe, $508,333. He's been fined $23,186, a week four violation, and they double that fine in week eight. He also would miss Washington's home game against the Lions. Well, listen, the fact that he's already been fine before, he's, uh, he's what they call it. A repeat offender. A repeat offender. And he tried an appeal, that's going to appeal.

That's going to be uphill. So you might be able go ahead and take your break now. Take your break. Go get put on your running shoes because you would not be playing the next game. Because if I'm not mistaken, Jordy Nelson, I think it's Jordy Nelson and Brooks. Are they appeal. Wait, Jordan Nelson is the one now? Jordan Nelson.

I think he took over for James Strach. And Brooks is still one. I think I should have. It's late. So, hold on. So James, James. I wish I to knew this because out of text Brooks and see if he was going to hear it.

You know, Derek Brooks. Yeah, yeah. So Derek Brooks took over for Merton Hanks. No, no, no, no, no, no. John Runyon is the head. Okay. He'll issue it and then you go hear it, James Strasch. Now, excuse me, Jordan Nelson or Derek Brooks.

Okay. No, Runyon is the head officer. for violations off the field on field that's him now obviously some things now

the commission in the commission is when it comes you know some things it just goes to the commissioner right

but uh yeah I don't I don't think you I don't okay um

okay Ramon Foster or Gond Foster oh he used to play with the Steelers right okay yeah yeah hey now see

I can do that hey damn Ocho No, no, no, no, no. I'm switching to it now. I've been using the laptop camera, right? Yeah. And so the funny thing, the first hour, the first hour my camera always works.

So I'm like, you know what? I'm going, I say the first hour, I'm going to just stay on the laptop camera and then use the regular camera on the back end. So probably it won't go out this time. Yeah, see, that would any, that's see. I can do something like this here. Come here. Hey, come see me by the.

fine let me okay talk to me right tell me what you're thinking on here oh you're gonna put the film up yeah yeah i say but you but i say you remember two weeks ago me you and i had this conversation and you said what happened again and you did it again guess what here we are having the same conversation when you when you're playing the game as fast as the game is moving you don't even realize it you know i'm not trying to defend a defender or a person that's on defense they're already handicapped as it is they can't hit nobody and obviously you sometimes you get caught in in bono positions and you're just trying to make a play you're just trying to make a play but but what they've song it is it is the expert it goes up the injury rate goes

up exponentially yes when guys hit that hip drop tackle on oh yeah when guys look you remember when roy wee was cowboy calling people wait he got te got teal like that he broke he oh he got some other people too he got a lot of people too he got a lot of people you people. Yep. Listen, nah, we're going to outlaw this. Because the cowboy collar used to be legal. Yeah.

They had a clothes line used to be illegal. It used to be legal. The head slap was legal. Legal, yeah. Yeah. Oh, boy, that's a lot of cheat. Hey, I think after, let's see, half a meal, Ocho, for a game check.

Hey. I think he might learn his lesson after this one, Ocho. Yeah, listen, I don't know. And the thing is, at least they should let the players decide where the money goes. decide where the money go. It's going in somebody's pocket. I think the fine money been lying in somebody's pocket. I just don't know who.

They got me. Hey, they need to give me mine back. But listen, if they give yours back, I want all 10 years of mine back too. Bad. Hey,

because me and AG at the time because AG kept his pay. Now, our parents wasn't like that kicker from Oklahoma. May, you see that kicker from Oklahoma, Ocho? Yeah,

I don't sure, son. Hey man, come on. I'm like, come on, bro. He had on shorts. Yeah. He had on shorts. Now, me and A.G. Now, you know, I try to have those long sauce to pull up.

But A.G., I was like, come on, A.G. Now, you, I mean, both of us can't be out here with knee showing. But, yeah, that kick. I was wasn't as bad as, uh, as the kicker from Oklahoma. Oklahoma, but what they get you? Oh, Joe, the Eagles added another player to the defense ahead of the NFL trade deadlines, acquiring outside linebacker Jalen Phillips from the Dolphins. The Phillip, excuse me, the Dolphins will receive a 2026 third round draft pick in the deal,

while the Eagles hope to boost their struggling pass rush with the third trade in the last week. The Eagles also landed cornerbacks Michael Carter the 2nd and Jaya Alexander in separate trades last week, looking to bolster a defense that's currently ranked 23rd. the NFL in defense and 24th in sacks. Ocho, what do you think this does for the Eagles? I mean, I think it can help. It can help.

Obviously, G.I. Alexander, if he can show flashes of what he used to be in the past, once they implement him on that defense, Phillips coming in, adding a little bit pressure so the back end is not exposed. Keon Mitchell can really so much, really hold us on. But if they can get some pressure from Jalen Phillips and get Jalen Carter going,

I think they're going to be okay. Offensively, we know what they can do offensively. At some point, probably on the back half of the season, I think Sequin going to go crazy. I don't know why. I just have a feeling they can't keep them bottled up all season long. They just can't. At some point, things are going to break.

You just keep on chopping wood, keep on chopping wood. And I think the success with the run game is going to open up the past, and they're even going to be right back in the same place they was last year. If I'm not mistaken, I think Jay, and Phillips, I think he played under Fangio. Fangio used to be the D.C. So he's going to be very familiar with Vic. And I think, and he had one of his best years under Fangio.

But yeah, look, the one thing we know about the Eagles, they're going to, hey, they're trying to win. Them draft picks, they're fighting good. But we're in 2025. What good is the 2026 draft pick going to do to help me win? Nothing. Not this year. We want to.

Okay. So I'm trying to win. right now so hey um do you think that means they're out of the trade they're out of the miles garret business oh absolutely absolutely because there's no way you can get you can't get you can't get well who they're going to let go you're not you're not you're not hey i give you three first rounders and uh uh uh and a starter no it's not happening now i give you three first rounders i give you three for i give you two first rounders and i let one of them de liman go no or i give you three first rounders and nobody no it's not happening still it's not it's not it's not

it's not happening they did they're just not given they're not letting the player of mild garret caliber go any under any under you're not winning with him on joe you need to rebuild yeah even if even if even if you need to rebuild you just you don't you don't you just don't it just it makes no sense even if you're not winning with him he is your he is your defense he is your he is the face of your franchise which is normally held for the quarterback position you're not going nowhere nah um you could be right you could be right but that doesn't mean also tell me no what's the candy man candy man candy man candy man you have to say that three times yeah listen the brown the browns will block the eagle's phone number where you better change

your number. I'm a call. Hey, give me your phone. I'm going to make a call. I'm a call a pay. They blocked that number. Give me your phone. I'm going to call from somebody else. I'll call me. I'll keep calling for my number that y'all ain't got. Right. I'm a robo call y'all at. Nah, they're not doing none. They're not doing nothing. Hey, Andrew, how you doing today? Yeah, man, it's great outside. How the weather in Cleveland? You want these all three first round? We're going to try to take miles up off your hands. No, we can't do it. okay we can't do it because they know for ain't no first rounders no first rounders out there that's worthy of letting miles garrett go oh cho or you want to just hold on to the guy because

it looks good are you trying to win or try to get building blocks to win try you've been you've been building you've been building for 35 years this ain't legos this ain't legos well i didn't keep trying man please a fool a fool it ain't happening it ain't happening I mean it's a uh it look they got a great defense but also you're not winning I don't care how great your defense is with your office like that you're not winning yeah yeah you know my miles Garrett doesn't matter Yeah, listen, you're not winning, but it gives you a chance why you're still playing right now. It gives you a chance to do what?

It just gives you a chance in general. To do what? The man has five sacks and they lost by three scores. Hold on. So what happens when he gets one sack or two sacks? It gives you a chance to compete. Maybe not win, but it gives you a chance to compete. Compete with who?

Well, the teams you play. Ohio State? Ohio State. I mean, what you compete with, Ocho? Hey, Ocho, think, Ocho, think about this, Ocho. The man had five sacks. In the history of the game,

nobody had lost by more than three. Right. He lost by three scores, not three points. Points, yeah. Well, we know that, we know why that is. We, we know, we know why that is.

Yes. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going down. I'm not going to kick the team while they down, but, eh. And you know, you know, you know it would be one hell of a team if you had the Brown defense

and the Bengals offense will let me ask you a question how you're going to have a $55 million quarterback $2.30 million receivers a $40 million deal lineman and a $20 million corner. Listen that's why it's a hypothetical. I'm just saying a team like that

the Brown defense, Bangle's offense. Man they might not lose a game. Well you know you'd have to draft that like a little you drafting something like it's not it's not likely to think about it in order for you to do that that's two first that's two number one overall draft picks denzil war was a top draft pick uh what's it called with a top draft pick so you're never going to be in position to get that right because think about it miles garrett was number one joe burrow was number one uh chase with a top five pick ward with a top five pick so how how

How are you going to be in position to get that? Mm-mm. You won't. You won't. Listen, just a little hypothetical. I'm just throwing that there. But I tell you what, I know Joe Burrow is going to get sick of this. Oof.

Because he doesn't have a chance. He's like, it doesn't matter. I've got to play perfect. Yeah. And knowing that I can't play perfect. Not for 17 weeks. No. I might have some games, oh, Cho?

where I throw for 400 and no touchdowns and have fewer than, excuse me, and no interceptions and have fewer than 10 incompletions. Yeah. And that still might not be good enough. Nope. You know what? I've thrown for 400 and four touchdowns and we still lose. Still lost.

Matter of fact, depending, I'm not sure how the rest of the season will go, but by the time we get to December, regardless of what our record is, whether we win and a losing, I don't think Joe should come back. I told you that. You're all going to be so far. I don't mean. It doesn't make any sense for him to come. Come back, come back and do what.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, don't say we're going to be so far out of it. It's still a chance. It's still a chance. Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's mega million? I need to, I need, I need to, I need to have my supposed to play some mega million. You're going to play. It's like 900.

You can't play, we can't play the lottery in Vegas. You got casinos. I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to play for you. Okay, play for me. I'm going to play for you. And listen, when I win, when I, when I win, boy, we, well, we're going to have a ball. I'll tell you what. Yeah.

My sister called and say, well, Shannon, we won the lottery. Yeah. You will have a new co-host for about two weeks. Okay, too, okay. Take your little two-week break. Yeah, I take a little two-week break. Hey, take you a little two-week break. I'm getting on, I'm getting on Quantius Air or Singapore air.

I've been watching the videos on TikTok. Right. Get me one of the old little old rule, wonderful little rules on, so they got a shower with everything in there. Right. Yeah, they got five, Michelin Star Chef. preparing you know some scottagrachi you know all that stuff i can't you pronounce hold on where's that again uh emirates singapore era quantus air okay okay okay well hold on you can you can do that now

without the lottery though no i can't take no break right now can't take no break right now okay okay but but but when vacation time do come right well we got we got we got we got hold on no No, we don't, we don't have no vacation time, though. No, we do. No, we win. In June. Man, that's the time we're supposed to be doing all the, all activities. No, we're going to do all that before then.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah. Hey, what's the first one we doing? Ain't know, we're going to keep that on the route. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, we know, I've been making some calls to some people. They send it up like, yeah, we'd be very interested. Okay, okay. Well, listen, first off, I, listen,

I don't mean to, I want to, I personally, I want to go hunting. I just want to show you my skills with my pistol. Mm-mm. No. We go to the gun, right? We go to the range for the pistols. No, I, oh, come on, man. Mm-mm.

You know, you know I got my license, right? You're not for the dick chaining me. No, I won't shoot you. I won't shoot you. I know. No, we're not even going to be that close together. I know. Because you make too much noise.

You in one star? I'm over here. I'm ready. So, the Eagles are going for it again. So I'm anxious to see because I think there's going to be a lot of, a lot of movement tomorrow.

Tomorrow, yeah. There's some teams that are going to try to get better because they're like, okay, some teams feel that they're one player, maybe it's a receiver and maybe it's a, maybe it's a defensive player, maybe it's a D-Lyman, or maybe it's a safety or something.

But there are people that feel like they're a player away from, getting over that hump. The Ravens acquired Titans past Russia, Draymont Jones, in the trade. Ravens sent a conditional fifth round draft pick that can potentially become a fourth round selection to the Titans in exchange for Jones. The 28-year-old has four and a half sacks in nine games with the Titans this season. He's particularly productive as of late with all four and a half, four and a half of the

sacks coming over the last four games. Jones also racked up 26 tackles and nine quarterback hits to go along with eight pressures this year. oh joe you like this move i mean yeah i do i do i don't think he liked it when he heard about the trade i saw his tweet where he said the NFL is wow but he did think that he thanked the titans you know for you know his services and allowing him to play there so listen the ravens they are all in too they're going to do everything they can to get back to get back on track they have a great chance to do it now that eight is back and anything is possible anything

as possible where Lamar Jackson is healthy and playing. Now, all you have to do is hope that defense, which has been at the bottom of the pack as well. They've been at the bottom of the pack. They end the same conversation when we talk about the Cowboys defense. We talk about the Bangon defense. They ain't been no better. Now, last week, they played good. But they got to continue that.

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