Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Jets fall short, NFC East hot seat, Browns stick with Watson

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills outdueling Aaron Rodgers and the lowly Jets on Monday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho question if Dallas C...owboys HC Mike McCarthy and Philadelphia Eagles HC Nick Sirianni should be fired, the Cleveland Browns should cut their losses and move on from a severely underperforming Deshaun Watson and much more!03:18 - Show Start03:26 - Intro05:10 - Bills v Jets21:00 - Newscap22:30 - McCarthy on Cowboys27:10 - Farmers Dog ad32:12 - Siriani apologizes for yelling at Eagles fans37:56 - browns offense wont bench watson for winston(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:31 Ocho, let's get it right to it. The Bills snapped their two-game losing streak. If I'm not mistaken, Josh Allen has yet to lose three consecutive games. In a sloppy game that saw 22 accepted penalties and three missed field goals, Josh Allen threw two touchdowns. Ray Davis counted for 152 total yards to lead the Buffalo Bills to a four and two while the Jets fall to two and four. Belichick took shots at Woody Johnson,
Starting point is 00:05:58 which lets you know he's not going back there. I don't know what made people think he would go back there. Remember, he signed the contract and then said, nah, I'm good. And they ended up going to New England and New England had to give up a first round pick for him. So we know he was never going to go coach for Woody Johnson. I'm not a big, oh, I'm not a big fan. I'm not a big Jets fan.
Starting point is 00:06:20 In case you don't know that, I thought Coach Sala really did a good job with this team. That's kind of what's been there with the Jets. They've barely won over 30% of their games in the last 10 years. The owners being the owner, ready to fire an aim. Ocho, when you look at this game, 23-20, the Bills win. Clearly, in first place, now they're 4-2. Jets fall to 2-4.
Starting point is 00:06:45 What did you like? What didn't-4. What did you like? What didn't you like? What did I like? I liked the game in general. It was a good goddamn game. It was a very good game. The referees threw a little bit too much laundry. I wish they would get out of the way and let them play as played. Let me ask you a question. On every play, before you go, before you go, on every NFL
Starting point is 00:07:02 play, if you want to be technical, you can throw a flag on every play. There's something that goes wrong. There's a holding. There's some type of penalty on every single play, especially in the interior. You can do that. I'm not going to say they were biased because they did play. They did call it fair in spurts, some for the Bills, some for the Jets.
Starting point is 00:07:21 But I think it was just a little bit too much and it messed up the Florida game especially when teams had advanced and gotten first downs and the calls were coming back but go ahead and I ask what you're going to say but when they went back and replayed it where they're like yeah they got to call that they were spinning the man
Starting point is 00:07:39 the guy tried to reach and you turn it you can't turn it you got to let him go all right some some of the calls some of the calls in the secondary it's like oh it's like it's like it's 50 50 you know get your head around huh i said get your head around yeah not yeah the one old dj reed gotta get your head around but again he didn't impede him in any way the receiver was coming back towards him yes i'm back towards him so i think i mean it just like stuff like that you know it's still the game of football and i think the ref just threw
Starting point is 00:08:10 too many goddamn too many damn flags but on the on the other hand on the other hand of that listen the jets win this game field goals as a kicker i understand the pressure understand the win you play for the win you kick you kick with the win understand which way is blowing and lead just a little a little towards the opposite way the wind is blowing and the ball will carry right into the goalpost yeah it's listen i'm it's not it's not it's very it's difficult it's easier for me to sit here and say it sitting at home as a kicker myself but again penalties they had just had over 11 penalties but got them hundreds of some goddamn yards. But the game could have, they could
Starting point is 00:08:48 have won the game. They could have won the game because the two field goals that they missed, they would have been up by six. So the score would have been, what, 23? 26-23? They would have won by three as opposed to losing by three. Where is the thing? The Bills missed a field goal
Starting point is 00:09:04 also. Also, yeah, you're right they did so now you're looking at 26 20 and may pop potentially overtime but when you look at the jets and this is what i was afraid of when you say we are quarterback away right under the assumption is your defense is going to be lights out like it was the previous year and they're not right they know they they number two now you know it's it's it's it's shaky as it looks tonight they're still ranked number two defensively in the nfl right now oh joe the bills ain't got nothing but josh allen yeah i knew you're gonna say that i don't know hey josh got that cape on man he's basically superman he is and the last player of the game
Starting point is 00:09:43 72 you got one responsibility. You got contained backside. Tell me why you down inside. I just need to know. Because that's not your responsibility. You're going to be looking at you and say, son, why didn't you play your responsibility? Because you're trying to do somebody
Starting point is 00:10:00 else's job. You didn't do your job. And now you let the cows out of the barn. Had you just do your job. And now you let the cows out of the barn. Had you just done your job, Ocho. Now you got, now you get them off the field. You use your time out. You're going to get the ball back. But because you wanted to do someone else's job. He got the first
Starting point is 00:10:15 down. You didn't do your job. And boom. Tyra Smith got his ass whipped tonight. Hey, who in the hell was that goddamn D and Tyrarus Smith going against? Ephanesia Espenza. Hey, I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 00:10:38 He never got Tyrus Smith on the first move, but the second and third move, it looked like Tyrus Smith's legs were in concrete. It's like he couldn't move laterally. Kick, kick, kick. Listen, I don't play left tackle, but I know you kick, kick, kick that third kick, you hunker
Starting point is 00:10:55 down. At the point of attack, you extend your hands and be able to move laterally left and right based on whatever moves he make. It's like his feet was in goddamn concrete. He couldn't move. Injuries of taking his toe on him. He's lazy. He's lazy with his hands. The first
Starting point is 00:11:12 move, the first leg. Lazy with his feet. If you saw his footwork. Yeah. Ocho. And then they run a play. They got two guys. He's pulling and he whiffed the corner. Oh, yeah. He whiffed. Ocho. He whiffed he just kept running he didn't even try to get the corner i know exactly what play you're talking about i i don't know he was
Starting point is 00:11:33 bad i'm not i'm not one for calling things out but watching replays and watching watching it on film and it's like well come on now this dude this dude is embarrassing you at the left tackle you're supposed to be that boy. You're the money position. You're the blind side of the quarterback. You got to do better than that. Man, that man whipped his ass. Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, like, what the heck?
Starting point is 00:11:59 You're supposed to be our best offensive lineman. Oh, yeah, most definitely. We want a bidding war against a lot of teams because look, he's an all pro. He's been an all pro. He's been to a lot of Pro Bowls. Ocho tonight just wasn't his night. Wasn't his
Starting point is 00:12:16 night or was the person he was going against just that much better or was it just the off night though? Let's hope it's an off night. Okay, I go with that because uh you can't have very many of those yeah because you play in the position you get your quarterback hurt because he i mean he went by he went by uh uh so fast one time. Roger was just shaking his head. Like, what the?
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah. He got up. He got up. It looked so funny. I don't mean to be laughing. I don't mean to be laughing, but he got up. I know exactly what play you're talking about. And it looks so funny when Aaron get up.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I think they might have threw a flag on that play, too, for putting his weight on him. I mean, what you supposed to do, Ocho no he he just he fixing his helmet when he getting up and it just looks so funny you can see the disgust in his face and he doesn't want to show any type of mannerism because he know the camera's on him right away but you can see it in his body language aaron like god damn man yeah and you know the cowboys everybody like you know your cowboys moved on but the injuries i mean ty smith hadn't played a whole season for the cowboys in a very very long time right age of attrition will catch up with us all because remember how they use how physical they
Starting point is 00:13:40 used to be ocho running the ball with zeke. Yeah. Ty Smith is not the same. Zach Martin who's still there, he isn't the same. Terrence Steele has kind of been he was like a journeyman, like a swing tackle that got thrust into the starting lineup. But Ty Smith tonight, boy, he ain't going to watch that film.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah. He ain't going to watch that. When I look back at it too, looking at some of the replays there, the Jets are a few plays away. That goddamn Tyler Rapp. Did I say his name right? Tyler Rapp?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Rapp. Boy, that boy there, he saved the game, too. Yeah. Saved the game. The play on Mike Williams, hell of a play on Mike Williams where he slipped. The play on Garrett Wilson. No, that was Tyron Johnson that intercepted that ball on Mike Williams. Number seven. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:29 But the play he made the play on Garrett Wilson in the end zone. That should have been six. The play he made on the tight end as well on the connection to make sure he didn't use his head. That was another one. It would have been a first down. And you stopped Brees Hall at like the five yard line. So Brees didn't score. Hey. Brees cost been a first down. And you stopped Brees Hall at like the five-yard line. You stopped me up so Brees didn't score.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Hey. Brees cost me my parlay. Why? Huh? Because he didn't score? He didn't score. Ocho. Hey, you play fantasy? Like gambling stuff? I be trying to do a little something with draft games. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I like that. I like that. I like that. I'm trying to figure out Brees Hall. You see the guy got the angle on him. You can't, okay. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I'm trying to figure out with Brees Hall. You see the guy got the angle on him. You cannot run the angle. Right. Go pretend like you about to go to the middle of the field
Starting point is 00:15:12 and then go. Yeah. Oh, God in person. Oh. Yeah. I think, you know, I think Brees might have been a little tired, too,
Starting point is 00:15:21 because it was late in the game. Brees is, hey, Brees, like, I'm not saying he's Chris Johnson fast but he got speed like that now bro that was in the third quarter how the hell you tired and then he come out the game bro you don't let nobody get your touchdown yeah he was tired
Starting point is 00:15:35 that's how I told you I told you he was tired he was tired he a workhorse now yeah I just but the problem is yeah is that when you look at the Jets Ocho he a workhorse, man. Yeah, I just... But the problem is... Yeah. Is that when you look at the Jets, Ocho... Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:15:50 They do a lot of clutching and grabbing. They're going to get a lot of holding. They're going to get a lot of understaffing. Oh, the DD, huh? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I wish, I wish,
Starting point is 00:16:02 I wish if you're going to be up there and you're going to play press, boom. Point of attack, stab, stab, whatever you wish, I wish if you're going to be up there and you're going to play press, boom. Point of attack, stab, stab, whatever you do, eyes and footwork. Eyes and footwork on the waist. That's it. And it's really hard most of the time because you get away with it when you're in practice. And you build those bad habits in practice of being really handsy and hands-on.
Starting point is 00:16:23 You get into the game and it ain't flying. The refs ain't having that. You got to use your... Remember your tips, your keys, use your eyes, and your feet. Your feet gonna save you every time. Your feet will save you every time. Did Reed get injured or did they bench him? No, his groin. His groin.
Starting point is 00:16:42 He went to the blue tip. Something about his groin. Oh, did he? I didn't groin I guess I must have stepped away I saw 26 was in the ball game so I figured either he got benched or he got he got nicked DJ Reed's been playing real well all year except for some of the calls
Starting point is 00:16:59 some of the holding calls that's the thing guys in practice they gonna call it in the game. You talk about I'm trying and then when you get in the game, you're looking at the jumbo truck. Stop looking at the board. You did that. You did it and I told
Starting point is 00:17:16 you it was going to happen. I like it though. Listen, defensive back is the most difficult position to play on the field. I say that and I say it all the time. You got all these fast receivers, strong, powerful. You know, they know where they're going and the DB is doing everything as fast as they can backwards. So sometimes calls are going to happen and you just listen.
Starting point is 00:17:39 You got to be technically sound as a DB. Every fucking, oh, I'm sorry. Every time you line up, you can't play every receiver the same. Sometimes you got to give a little ground based on who you're playing. You got to understand what they're good at, what they're not good at. If they're big and strong, you can get into them. If they're quick and fast, hell,
Starting point is 00:17:56 you got to shadow. You got to understand who you're playing against and play them differently. You get up there and you try to play everybody the same way, you're going to get whooped and you're going to have to hold. Well, you can't play even the receiver that you can't give them the same look. You can't give a quarterback the same look defensively. If I'm a wide receiver, I can't give the DB the same look. I got to change it up.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Right. That's the problem, though. I don't think most of the DBs in NFL, you have to be really good being able to do things outside of the scheme. They want you light. If you're supposed to be head up yes baby head up if you're supposed to be a shade outside or shade inside you better be a shade outside a shade inside i don't think they have the freedom to do some of the things that they like that you're talking about to confuse the receiver and getting the thinking before the snap of the ball right because it's outside of what they're allowed to do
Starting point is 00:18:43 as far as you know you know how deep coordinators are. If you're supposed to be shade inside, you've got to be a shade inside every time. You can't do nothing unless you're elite like that. Don't change what they want you to do. Okay. I'll let you do your thing
Starting point is 00:18:59 and then you get beat, beat, beat, beat, beat. Then what? People are going to be looking at my defense, talking about my defense raggedy. With naturality, you're not playing the technique that we taught all week. Bingo. Yeah. So that's what people need to understand is that, look, I'm going to do what I'm coached to do. Now, if it doesn't work, that's on you.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Right. Because I did what you told me to do. And if you're good enough, just adjust and adapt and do what you do and do what makes you comfortable. Do what makes you comfortable. Yeah. Do what makes you comfortable. Go get you beat. Be comfortable.
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Starting point is 00:24:31 I like that You know what Before we go into Newscap I want to add one more thing For the Bills and Jets game There's one thing There's one thing That should happen
Starting point is 00:24:40 I'm not sure What the powers that be Are waiting on But I think the addition Of Devontae Adams, if it can happen at any point, the addition of him to that Jets team will help bolster that offense and give Aaron Rodgers another threat. An adequate that he knows he can count on and can win every goddamn down. I just had to throw that out there before we continue.
Starting point is 00:25:02 So I don't know. The football gods, if you're listening, let's make that happen. I thought tonight, I thought Lazard, I thought he and Garrett Wilson are starting to get on the same page. They're playing really, really well. Obviously, Alan Lazard knows him.
Starting point is 00:25:19 He played with him in Green Bay. So he knows. I mean, that throw down the middle for 24 yards, not a whole lot of receivers, unless you play with the quarterback knows that he's going to back shoulder this thing to me and I'm going to need to, Hey, it's going to be low and it's going to be on my backside and I'm going to be having to have to go dig it out. But that comes from experience that comes from playing with a guy. But, uh, if, if Devante were to go there, I mean, Hey, somebody's going
Starting point is 00:25:43 to be the odd man out because obviously it's not like they're going to throw the ball 50 times a game. So the question is, how healthy is Devontae? How soon are you going to be able to get on the field? I know he's been out for a couple of weeks. Oh, yeah. I'm
Starting point is 00:26:02 sure he's healthy. I don't think he's healthy. He eats Taco Bell.. He Taco Bell. Okay, Taco Bell. I don't think he hurt. I'm talking about he going to hit the ground running. But anyway. Mike McCarthy says his Cowboys relish the chance to bounce back.
Starting point is 00:26:18 At the end of the day, if we totally don't believe it's about us, it'll always be about us and play who we are and what we do and how we do it. Then we're going to go where we want to go. And I believe we will. I think this is an opportunity that we relish. I know it. I relish it. And I think they do too. I think this is an excellent opportunity for our young guys to continue to play because this will pay forward. In my experience, it always has. When you play young players this much
Starting point is 00:26:46 and you play this many different players this much, I think it's going to be the long game, definitely, and have a chance to be very bright. Yeah, I like it. Listen, Mike McCarthy has to say those things. You got to say everything you can. You got to say everything you can. You can't say what you really want to say.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Shit, we playing like shit. He can't come out and say that. But this is good. This is good for the Cowboys. This is good for that they're on a bye week, you know, to kind of to patch up the bleeding a little bit. Stitch up, stitch up the wound. And listen, it don't get no easier for the Cowboys. If you look at the next three games here hell, look at the next five games,
Starting point is 00:27:25 but I don't want to look that far ahead. Just look at the rest of the games after the bye week. One game at a time. And the first thing you got coming out the bye week, you got to hit the ground running. You got to come out looking completely different, especially defensively. Defensively, you got to come out looking different so your team ain't playing from behind. The Cowboys
Starting point is 00:27:46 have played 14, damn, they're almost 21 points from behind, and I think, what, maybe their last three games almost? Something like that? So they always playing from behind, and for one, there ain't no goddamn running game. Ain't no running game. And they have to throw the ball and throw the ball and throw
Starting point is 00:28:02 it ain't gonna work. It ain't gonna work. Well, that's what, when you can to throw the ball and throw the ball and it ain't going to work. It ain't going to work. Well, that's what that was. When you can't run the ball and you can't stop the run, what do you expect to happen? Yeah. I mean, I don't know what Jerry was thinking. I mean, at some point in time, you can sell people all you want to. But when they purchase the product, they want to see if it works.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah. What happened? It ain't working for how long but how long have the cowboys fans been believing it so why should i tell you another story when you believe the one i've been telling you for 28 years well you know what that's like a woman that's dated 20 men and it didn't work out right but for some reason she still believes there's one out there because she's a hopeless romantic. So maybe the Cowboys fans are hopeless romantics
Starting point is 00:28:47 and they believe... They're hopeless delusional. Oh, so it's not hopeless romantic. It's more delusion as opposed to being hopeless? I mean, I would like to say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:28:58 If we've been to an NFC Championship game, okay, if we've been to the Super Bowl, they can't get past the divisional round in 28 years. But the fact that they they can't get past the divisional round. The fact that they're even able to get to divisional round each and every year,
Starting point is 00:29:10 that's promise. No, it's not. No. Oh, man. The Lions got to the championship game. Look how many teams have gotten to the championship game since the Cowboys have last gotten to the championship game.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Right. No, that's not promised because, you know, every year they're going to they're going to either loot. They're not going past the division around. You know that if the Cowboys make the playoff, they're not going past the division around whether they have to go on the road or play at home. It doesn't matter. You get beat 48 to 20-something at home in a playoff game? At that Packers game? They couldn't stop the bleeding, though. That goddamn running game, boy.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I don't know what the hell was going on. They couldn't stop the bleeding against the Saints. They couldn't stop the bleeding against the Ravens. They couldn't stop the bleeding against the team they just played't stop the bleeding against the Ravens. They couldn't stop the bleeding against the team they just played. Yeah. That's why they got the bye week. So they're in surgery right now. They stitching up. They stitching up the wound.
Starting point is 00:30:12 They stitching up the wound. So when you come back and you go to war, you're hoping you get the Marcus Lawrence back. I'm sure Michael Parsons will be back. You know, you get some of the players that might be injured, a little nicked up. They recover. They get a little healthy. And you get ready, you get some of the players that might be injured, a little nicked up. They recover. They get a little healthy. And you get ready for that second half of the season. That's what I call it.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I call it bye week, the second half of the season. And football really doesn't start. Depending on how far behind the eight ball they do fall, football does not really start for the Cowboys or any other team until after Thanksgiving. Now, that's football season. Dubai going to rush for 150 yards on them this week. So, I know what the 49ers
Starting point is 00:30:53 gonna do to their ass in two weeks. Ocho, before we get to our next segment, we want to talk about Farmer's Dog. Makes and delivers fresh, healthy dog food right to your door i am a customer of farmer's dog my dogs titus and teddy bear they eat it is developed by vets made with fresh real meat and veggies now titus eats about five bags a day teddy bear five well he's 175 pounds so he's gonna eat a little bit more than Teddy,
Starting point is 00:31:25 little 6-pound ass. Wait, where he at? Put him on camera. 175? No, no, he in training. Oh, damn. He in training. I want to see him.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I'll have him in here next week. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Teddy Bear, Captain Spawn, he likes it because it's made I mean you can get it with beef you can get it with chicken you can get it with turkey and so we have to we food teddy bear so we put it like we have it on I put it on my plate and then I drop
Starting point is 00:31:56 it on it drop it in his bowl he like yeah yeah this is good right here because he think he eat table food you know what I'm thinking about what like now that you're talking about farmer's dog right here because you think you eat table food. You know what I'm thinking about? What? Like, now that you're talking about farmer's dog, I think I'm going to get a dog for Christmas. What kind of dog are you going to get?
Starting point is 00:32:14 I don't know. And I, that chat, chat, y'all talk to me. Like, you know, I have six months I'm home, six months, you know, I'm not traveling. I mean, six months I'm traveling, six months during football season I'm not here. I mean, six months I'm traveling. Six months during football season, I'm not here. I'm thinking Christmas. I'm surprised. I want to surprise
Starting point is 00:32:29 my youngest daughter, French Fry, with a dog. So what do you think I should get? What do you think? And listen, she loves dogs. You know how I feel about it. You need to be home. You need to be home because the first six months, the first year is the most important part of a dog life.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Socialize it, understanding it, getting it on a schedule, getting it house broke, getting it into a routine. The first six months to a year is the most important time for a dog. So I'm going to be home though. That's what I said in Christmas. You know, once football season ends, I'm home to be home though. That's what I said in Christmas. You know, once football season ends, I'm home the next six months. But you're not home after Christmas. What about those next two months?
Starting point is 00:33:11 You get the dog Christmas, football season over until the middle of February. Oh, they're going to travel with me. They're going to be my support dog. Okay. Food is free portion based on the unique nutritional needs
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Starting point is 00:33:48 I'm going to get a packet. You can see this. This is how it comes. Got Teddy's name on it. Obviously, Titus has his name on it. This is turkey. Like I said, they have turkey, beef and chicken.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I think Teddy's a little partial to the turkey and the beef. turkey. Like I said, they have turkey, beef, and chicken. I think Teddy's a little partial to the turkey and the beef. Titus likes it all. But Titus eats about five bags of beef a day, maybe six. Teddy eats like four spoonfuls
Starting point is 00:34:20 a day. He's not much of an eater. But we understand that that uh he doesn't require the nutrition that uh titus does but it's very good food uh i had to be sold on it um so they shipped me some i let the dogs try it because anytime like you have it's a gradual process because your dog has been eating something for an extended period of time, you don't want to introduce something new totally.
Starting point is 00:34:49 So you introduce a little bit of it while still giving him some of his natural food. And then as you go along, you give him less and less of what he normally eats and more and more of the new stuff. And so that's the way you don't upset his stomach. You don't get him too much out of a routine. And then before you know it, he's eating the new stuff and he's totally disregarded the old stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:09 So that's the way I went about it with my dogs. And it worked out very well for them. I'm sure it'll work out well with you. So go to FarmersDog.com slash NICcap to get 50% off your first order. Sirianni apologizes for yelling at Eagle Boo Birds. I was trying to bring energy and enthusiasm yesterday, and I'm sorry and disappointed at how my energy was directed at the end of the game. My energy should be all in on coaching, motivating, and celebrating our guys,
Starting point is 00:35:41 and I've got to have better wisdom and discernment of when to use that energy and that wasn't the time uh we seem to lost Ocho yeah look I get it sometimes in the spur of the moment but Nick you do realize those are your fans and uh if if he had taken this approach uh like during the course of the week, you know, so forth and so on, or maybe if it was a visiting team and you want to hush those guys up, but not your own fans. I mean, they root for you. They cheer for you.
Starting point is 00:36:16 You had said that they helped you guys get some false start penalties. And then at the end of the game, you win. It wasn't that convincing, but, hey, at the end of the game, you win. It wasn't that convincing, but hey, at the end of the day, a win is a win. And that's what you do. That's what came to your mind. You know what? We won a game. Let me shut these fans up. I just don't get it.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I mean, he needs to understand he's playing in Philly. He's coaching in Philly. Those fans are different. They don't like front runners. They like hard working blue collar guys that go to work every single day and look
Starting point is 00:36:52 I don't have to accept his apology I do though I'm not in Philly I'm not Jeffrey Lurie or Howard Roseman or the fans in Philly it'd be interesting to see if the fans in Philly accept his apology. But he just had, like you said,
Starting point is 00:37:09 he needs to use better judgment and discernment when going about something like this because he's a head coach. He's not a player. He's not a fan on fan interaction. He's the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, and it just wasn't a good look. And so I don't know how you guys in the chat think, but he needs to understand those are your fans.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Those weren't Cleveland Browns fans. Those were the Philadelphia Eagles fans. Those are the guys, those fans paid their hard-earned money to come cheer, root, and support the Philadelphia Eagles. And then you're carrying on yelling and screaming at them about, oh, how you, I don't know what he was saying, but I'm just saying, just you're going back and forth with them. I don't understand the good or what he thought would come out of this,
Starting point is 00:37:54 but hopefully he learns a valuable lesson and he learns from this and he moves on and it doesn't happen again. But it's not, it's not a good look. It's definitely not a good look for him. I'm sure Mr. Lurie, who owns the team, or Howard Roseman, who's the general manager, they probably had a conversation with him last night or this morning like, this is not what we expect from you. We hold you to a higher standard, and we expect you to conduct yourself in a manner
Starting point is 00:38:22 that would have the utmost respect of someone in your position. Can you see me? Yeah. Hey, ma'am, the whole Wi-Fi just went out, man. Pay your bill. Nah, it's
Starting point is 00:38:41 12 o'clock at night. It's 12 o'clock at night and I think it o'clock at night, and I think it's something storming over here in the area I'm at. I didn't know Wi-Fi came. I didn't know, I guess, Wi-Fi came with maintenance because, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:53 back weekend, but after 9 o'clock, you got maintenance free anyway. Nah, can you see me? I look really dark, huh? You was born that way. What the hell you mean you look? You are. I'm just saying. I'm trying to make sure my light is okay
Starting point is 00:39:08 so people can see me. We can see you. Okay, okay, okay. We good. We good. We back. We back. We got magnifying glasses out, but we see you. Yeah, yeah. I'm here. My TV stays. Television signal lost. Everything is out.
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Starting point is 00:43:58 Listen to Ali and Me, now on audible Sunday was another rough outing for the Cleveland Browns offense but there won't be any changes made to the quarterback position Kevin Stavansky told reporters money that he won't be benching Deshaun Watson in favor of Jameis Winston following the 2016 loss to the Eagles
Starting point is 00:44:23 I think there were moments, obviously, that yesterday I think Deshaun gives us the best chance to win. You're not winning. Continues to give us the best chance to win, and we need to play really good offensive football at his position and really at every other position to be safe.
Starting point is 00:44:39 What you think? What you thinking, huh? What you thinking? Let's think from a business standpoint. You understand how those owners are thinking, What you thinking, huh? What you thinking? Let's think from a business standpoint. You understand how those owners are thinking. And you know Kevin Stefanski doesn't pull the strings on that puppet. If I'm paying somebody that kind of money, he's going to play. Even if things aren't going well. I'm going to try to get my money's worth until I can't no more.
Starting point is 00:45:04 I'm paying the guy $45 million. I'm paying the other guy $5 or $7 million. It doesn't make sense. Why would I put him on the bench making $45 million? Yeah. Why would they make a change? Why would they make a change?
Starting point is 00:45:19 Him saying Deshaun Watson gives us our best chance to win, is he wrong or is he right? What do you think? Do you think James Winston gives the Cleveland Brown us our best chance to win, is he wrong or is he right? What do you think? Do you think Jameis Winston gives the Cleveland Browns a better chance to win at the quarterback position? How about this? He gives you your best chance to win, but you're not winning.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Okay. So how good of a chance is it? You think maybe it's the flashes of brilliance that you see? Just the flashes aren't as consistent as it used to be? He says, I think Deshaun gives us the best chance to win. Continue to give us the best chance to win. We need to play really good offensive football at his position and really good football at every other position to be successful.
Starting point is 00:46:01 No crap, Sherlock. Wow. That is some great coaching that is some motivational stuff right there we need the quarterback to play good and we need to play good at every other position the quarterback has to play the best because he got the ball in his hands all the time
Starting point is 00:46:21 he has the ball in his hands every play so his decision making and everything he decides to do with the ball impacts his hands all the time. He has the ball in his hands every play, so his decision-making and everything he decides to do with the ball impacts and affects everyone else around him, especially offensively. Hell, even defensively. Because if you make mistakes, then they always on the goddamn field on the defensive side of the ball.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I agree. Yeah. He's not playing well, Ocho. But you can say Ocho, you say you give him the... Me, I didn't say. I'm just saying. I was asking your thoughts on what you think. Should they make a change?
Starting point is 00:46:51 Ocho, after three years... Yes, sir. I mean, it's tough. And I get it. When you invest that kind of money, a lot of times, it's just like anything. It's just like with an investment. When you put a lot of money into an investment, Ocho, it's hard to get off it.
Starting point is 00:47:08 It's hard to get off it, Ocho, because you want to see some kind of dividend. You want to see some type of return on your investment. Yes. Sometimes, you got to cut your losses. I got a question for you. Yes. I got a question for you I got a question for you so fellas that's in the chat that you listen to me
Starting point is 00:47:28 now think about this on much smaller terms but think about it you're dating a woman you've been dating her for two or three years and you're thinking about all the money and everything you've invested in this individual and you just and you keep on you keep on trying you keep on trying
Starting point is 00:47:44 and things just don't seem to be working out and going the way you'd like it to go in the right direction. But you keep thinking about all the time you spent, all the money you spent invested in this individual. Are you going, are you going to shelf her? Are you going to say, you know what? I don't want, I don't want to do this no more. You know why? Let me tell you why.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Because you don't want her to be what you think she can be with somebody else when you've invested all that in her. See, that's why a lot of teams don't want to get upset player because what if he goes and be somewhere else what we thought he could be here? You done bought 5, 10,
Starting point is 00:48:22 15 YSL, Louis, Hermes, Gucci bags, Balenciaga. You done bought five, 10, 15 YSL, Louis, Hermes, Gucci bags, Balenciaga. You done bought her a whip. She won't do right. Damn. But what does she do right over there? But think about this, don't think about this. What if you cut your losses to get the bags and everything you bought?
Starting point is 00:48:42 Cause you can get that back. Right. And then if she does leave and you get rid of that, think about it not being, that's an expense that is no longer on your tab. It's no longer on your plate. And that's okay. I get it. I get it. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:48:58 But a lot of people don't think like that because, like you said, you made a heavy investment. It's just like you buy a stock or you buy an investment property. If you don't want to get off it, Ocho, because you thought this was the run property, this was going to be your Netflix. This was going to be your Google. This was going to be your Apple. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Your Uber, whatever the case may be, that was going to be your time to hit a lick. And that's the funny thing. When it comes to investing, that's something that we always need to learn and understand. Everything we invest in, we're not going to get a return on. Everything we invest in, we're not going to get a return on. So you have to know when to cut your losses.
Starting point is 00:49:37 You do. And it's okay. Because at some point, that loss for you becomes somebody else's responsibility. Because they ain't doing right by you. Nine times out of times out of ten they're gonna do right by the next motherfucker either so if a certain individual if a certain player looks a certain way it ain't like all of a sudden they don't go to another team and they're gonna be magic and all of a sudden turn around and be somebody else that they're not i get it bro i get it uh at the end of the day Ojo
Starting point is 00:50:06 look we've all I ain't say all but I know I've had to cut losses it is what it is yeah I cut a loss in a minute oh you don't play huh Ojo it is what it is right right right you win some you lose some
Starting point is 00:50:22 hell I can't win them all nobody and I see guys in the chat, chat, oh, you sipping. Bro, you don't even know. Your woman probably been over right now. Why you over there bumping them? Everybody, nobody,
Starting point is 00:50:36 Ocho, the thing is, no guy thinks it's going to happen to him or them. Listen, if you don't, I don't have that kind of, well, I don't have that kind of ego, I don't have that kind of, well,
Starting point is 00:50:45 I don't have that kind of ego. I don't have that kind of ego. It can happen to anybody. It don't matter who he is. It can happen to anybody. Because the funny thing about it, based on experience, and I don't mean to be
Starting point is 00:50:56 bringing up a past. I don't mean to be bringing up a past. But listen, we family. We family. I can be honest. Because I was on the other side of the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:51:04 So I know it can be done. because i was number two for years stay stay with me now i can talk to y'all because we family yeah so i know i know what i know what can happen i know the lies i know the tricks i know they got no all that 56 years to experience so i would never have ego and thinking oh hell shit I'm Ocho it can't happen to me I'm a fucking fool I am not I am not it never will be it happens to the best of us
Starting point is 00:51:37 oh yeah yes it does but you just move on hey you wish her the best it didn't work out with you and I I wish you the best and your next journey. But I, I, I've been very fortunate.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Like I said, I've been with, I've been with my, uh, my agent since 1996. So we coming up on 30 years. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:51:57 He's anytime I've, anytime I've lost something. Right. He always tells me, don't never worry about it. The next company you work for, they'll pay for it. I go, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:12 They'll pay for it. You got to get up off a car, you got to get off of X amount of dollars, don't even worry about it. Puts my mind at such ease. But if I've gotten older, if I've gotten older,
Starting point is 00:52:26 if I've gotten older, I've become more and more detached from things. Cars, money, jewelry. It don't mean, it don't mean as much to me as it once did. Yeah. So once you can detach yourself
Starting point is 00:52:43 from it, Ocho? That's freedom, huh? That's that's freedom huh that's the definition of being free where it don't have a hold on you no more it don't got you in a choke hold no more a lot of people can't do that that's hard I walk away from 100,000 200,000 like it is yeah it won't even look back yes sir because that's just where I am now that's where I am in my $100,000, $200,000 like it is. Yeah. And won't even look back. Yes, sir. Because that's just where I am now.
Starting point is 00:53:07 That's where I am in my life now. It don't mean now. You call those shit in his 20s and 30s. Different ballgame. I spent $500,000 to get $100,000 back. Because I know you ain't got it. And so I'm going to put your ass in a crunch. But now, take off with it.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Right. It doesn't bother me anymore because I'm going to look. I'm like, hey, my kid's good. Mom, sister, brother good. I'm great. Take off.
Starting point is 00:53:38 I don't care. Mm-hmm. You just learn, Ocho, as you get older, things that used to get you riled up. Yeah, mean a lot to you. It don't. It don't anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:51 It ain't even worth it. Yeah, it come with time, though. It come with time. Time, age, maturity. Think about some of the things you enjoyed and you loved when you was playing. You just couldn't do without. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Now, man, I mean, I could care less. See, the thing is, like, when you ask God for something, I ask God for patience. He's not going to give me patience, Ocho. He's going to put me in a situation where patience is required. Wow.
Starting point is 00:54:22 That's what he does. Right. He puts you in a situation where what you're asking for for is required and you learn but it took it took a while for me to get to that point it's gonna be okay right and then once i once I let that go and I start, I stopped thinking about money and it wasn't man. Ocho stuff just, just, just started coming flowing.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Yeah. Just started coming. I was like, boy, I'm arguing over this and he done gave it back to me. Tenfold. Man. I say,
Starting point is 00:55:04 Hey, Hey, my TV just came back on. and he done gave it back to me tenfold. Man, I say... Hey, hey, my TV just came back on. Oh, you got that rabbit ear? You got that analog TV, huh? Nah, nah, nah. I'm just saying. You can see it in my sunglasses. My TV just came back, so that means the internet...
Starting point is 00:55:20 You can't hear the storm outside? Nah. Hold on, hold on. I'm linking back on so I can get off this phone. Let me see if it all... I love having technical difficulties. I'm sure. See how I operate around adversity?
Starting point is 00:55:40 Let's go. Nah, but you learn as you get older, all your stuff that used to bother you and worry you, it don't but you learn as you get older, Ocho, stuff that used to bother you and worry you, it don't worry you nearly as much. I don't even care no more. I don't. Oh, there you go. Okay, I'm finna get off.
Starting point is 00:55:54 He get off the wrong thing. Y'all bear with Ocho. Y'all know he, you know, he a little slow. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Mic check, mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two. Man, y'all know Ocho. They had to pack him two sets of clothes for school.
Starting point is 00:56:20 You know, he's one of those, Jordan. That's all. Hey, we back, we back, we back. That's all. Hey, we back. We back. We back. We back. We back. We back.
Starting point is 00:56:28 The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:57:02 I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There's so many stories out there.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do.

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