Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Jets shock Texans, Anthony Richardson benched, Unc’s sneaker auction

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to New York Jets Aaron Rodgers throwing for 3 TDs vs. C.J. Stroud and the Houston Texans on Thursday Night Football for their first win in 5 weeks. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Indianapolis Colts QB Anthony Richardson being benched for veteran Joe Flacco in Sunday Night’s game against Sam Darnold and the Minnesota Vikings, Unc previews some of his favorite sneakers from his private collection that he will be auctioning off on November 1st with Whatnot and much more!03:13 - Show start03:38 - Intro06:30 - Texans v Jets22:47 - Anthony Richardson44:56 - whatnot auction…(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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will be nine additional hats that'll be signed, nightcap, if you make a merch purchase between now and, I guess, midnight. So get on the ball, guys. Ochoa, as we talked about earlier, the Jets beat the Texans 21-13. The New York overcame several inflicted mistakes to snap a five-game losing streak, handed the Houston Texans their second loss in three games. Aaron Rodgers threw three touchdown passes at the Jets' end of their losing streak at five games. In the first half, Jets' Malachi Corley dropped the ball before crossing the end line.

Dumb, dumb. That would have been a 19-yard rush touchdown. And the ball touched back because it rolled out of the end zone. J.J. Watt had this to say on Aaron Rodgers. Is this a joke? He was talking about him. Aaron was talking about he's drinking cayenne pepper in water. I think that's what he was. That's what he was.

Cayenne pepper and water. And J.J. is like, basically, bro, we keep talking about y'all. And you're talking about cayenne pepper and water. Score some touchdowns. Win some games. Because this is what you're in New York for. And to make matters worse for the Texans, they lost this game, which is their second in three weeks, Ocho.

They also learned that Stephon Diggs suffers a season-ending ACL injury. So Stephon Diggs is gone. Remember, they've been without Nico Collins for like the last three weeks. Tank Dale stepped up big tonight, but it wasn't enough. CJ hadn't been playing well, Ocho. He hasn't been playing well. There's no way around it. And the offensive line is getting killed.

But tonight, he was 11 of 30, 191 yards, eight sacks for 56 total yards. Go ahead. So, okay, CJ not playing well, right? Yes. The O-line is abysmal. They're horrible. They're playing really bad.

Not only is the O-line horrible, you lose digs. Nico Cullen is out. There's nothing wrong with Robert Woods. There's nothing wrong with Macy. There's nothing wrong with Tank Dale. Tank Dale had a good night. I think he had six or seven eight catches for $126 a night. But it's different when you don't have them horses but it's different when you don't have them horses

it's different we don't have them horses it's different and then the old line's not playing well there's really nobody you can actually count on to get open for you there's no security blanket so this is what you get tonight this is what you get tonight and then on the opposite side finally the jets show some promise finally aaron rogers sold some promise yes late in the game because the first half was horrible boy yeah he had 32 passing yards first half was a doozy from both sides of the ball you know goddamn stroud sack seven eight times eight aaron rogers missing missing missing shots easy shots that him and davante normally hit on yeah but davante dropped one he had he had him against the uhingley Jr. He dropped that one.

That was just a drop. Yeah, he did drop that one. But I think in order for them to get on the same pace, they got to be able to hit shots like they hit tonight and get themselves into a rhythm. And Aaron Rodgers does this.

He plays bad, plays bad, plays bad, plays bad. And then all of a sudden, he'll go into a spurt. We look like, oh, there's the magic. There's what we've been waiting for from you. This is what it should look look like this is what we have to look forward to and i don't know who they play next week so it's only two only two things can happen either they're

going to continue to get better and improve offensively or they're going to regress and go back to what we saw the previous five weeks yeah i think the thing is for me ocho when i look at cj and knowing the offensive line isn't playing well you can't make every play. You see he's spinning out, trying to spin out and he's losing yards, getting sacked. It's okay to throw the ball away in the direction of you have a receiver.

Because one time you got sacked and you end up pushing your kicker back and he missed the field goal. Now, I'm not so sure that four yards that he lost on the sack would have helped because hell, when he left the kicker's foot, hell, I could tell it was off. So unless they expand the goal post to be the width of the end zone, that kick wasn't going to be any good anyway. But he just has to understand, Ocho, knowing that,

and maybe they have to shorten up some of these routes. My offensive line isn't good right now. I don't know if it's injuries or they're just playing bad, but you got to shorten up these routes because you're not going to have time to let something develop down the field playing behind this offensive line. Go ahead. And not only that, I'm not sure the offensive coordinator is. The offensive coordinator is for the Houston Texans,

but without Nico Collins, without Stephon Diggs, I'm thinking the whole three-step, five-step drop, the play-action passes, you need to eliminate that from the playbook until you can figure out what you want to do. Condense the splits, put people in motion, find ways to get them, find ways to scheme them open because you don't have those horses. You don't have your Stephon Diggs, You don't have your Nico Collins. You do have Ting Dale. Now, I'm not saying nothing is wrong. There's nothing wrong with Robert Woods

or Meaty, but you got to be a little bit more creative to help your quarterback out. It shouldn't look like that. Tonight, it shouldn't look like that. The CJ Shroud we saw last year, it shouldn't regress to this point,

and we shouldn't be able to use injuries for it. So what the offensive coordinator has to do, he has to manipulate the offense so CJ Stroud can still be efficient. You've got to change some things up. If your personnel is different on the outside of the receiving position, then you have to do something different. You've got to play to their strengths on what they do well. Don't try to run the same offense. We don't have an ego Collins

out there. You don't have a step on digs. You got to change it up when they got when the Jets hit the center knowing that the center is protected and they got I didn't like the play selection two runs and then a pass and CJ and CJ was

off because he had met you. Now I don't know if he felt the pressure or he just missed him Ocho but he had Mechie on the whip route and he had at least the first down and who knows if he makes the guy miss maybe he has a touchdown but we know he's beyond the first down

he's beyond the line to gain the first down but that's what happens when you get hit early and you get hot often, you start seeing things, even if it's not there. And so that's why you try to get to the quarterback early to impact him for later.

And it definitely showed his head tonight. And again, CJ was 11 of 3,491 yards. He got sacked eight times. Give this Jeff defense credit. They got after him tonight. You know, you know, it's funny. They ran after him tonight. You know what's funny?

They ran the ball well. Yeah, they were running the ball 36 rushes a buck 87. They ran the ball real well. J.J. Taylor had three for 23. C.J. on scrambles with eight of 59. And Joe Mixon was 24 for a buck. Was 24 for a buck 06.

So, four and a half yards of carry for Mixon. Like I said, he ran the ball extremely well. He's played well all year long, except for that couple of weeks that he missed with that hip drop tackle. But other than that, I think he's been unbelievable. He's been one of the bright spots, one of their most consistent players. Right. And matter of fact, in the fact that you say that, you know,

Joe being so consistent and playing very well, I'm still trying to understand why we let him go out there in Cincinnati. I think the price, I think, you know, teams don't want to play. Because think about it. You're already taking a pay cut. Yeah, but true. I agree. Because think about

it. Derrick Henry took a pay cut because he was making 12. They took him all the way down to eight and derrick henry was still giving you great production i mean this is a bark that that was a bargain for the raven first of all he'd have been a bargain for anybody he'd been a bargain for anybody eight million dollars because he's derrick henry you know what he's gonna get he's gonna get to 1200 hell he's at what nine what, what? Eight, 46, 900 now? So... Yeah.

He actually had 946. Okay, he had 946. So you know he's going to get you. On a bad year, he's going to get you 1,200. On a great year, he's going to be somewhere 15, 1,600. An exceptional year, he'll get you 2,000. That's what he is. You know that.

And for the most part, he's been fairly doable. Even the season that he missed, he had almost 1,000 yards in like nine games. Yeah. Young Bull is special, man. He is. He's defying things at his age, and I think he's defying things at his age

specifically because of the team he chose to go to. Right. The Jets snap a five-game losing um aaron rogers tosses three touchdown passes uh hit davante in stride davante got nick came back in the game caught a touchdown i'm sure he's good feeling good about that he had 11 targets seven catches 91 yard garrett wilson made two phenomenal catches and sometimes ocho youcho, you know this. When you're struggling, you have to make plays like this to help your quarterback out and to help your team out. Everything is not going to be between the numbers.

Everything's not going to be in a catch radius. So you're going to sometimes, sometimes, when your offense is struggling, you have to make an exceptional play. He made two exceptional plays tonight that really got the jets going offensively. And it seemed to give them a breath of fresh air.

They're like, okay, yeah, we know now we know how to get the ball into the end zone and defensively. They look and defensively. Sometimes you have to have games like, look, we got to go hunt the quarterback.

Oh, Joe is really that simple. Let's, let's make it as difficult as they possibly can. Let's hold this team down and let our offense get going. And once the Jets offense got going, they played well, but it

took two exceptional catches from Garrett Wilson and sometimes having been in situations like this, it takes exceptional plays to get an offense going. Wait, hold on, hold on. Now, it doesn't always take exceptional plays. Sometimes you can chop

the wood. You chop the wood, chop the wood, chop the wood, chop the wood. It's okay to run the bases instead of trying to hit the home run. No, but I'm saying when you 0-5, chop the wood and you get it done. When you're 0-5 straight, sometimes it just takes an exceptional play to get the

sideline going to get you going as an offensive unit because you're right oh so you know methodically moving down the field you're like man we've done this before we ain't getting nothing to show for it now we got a one-hand spectacular catch where he makes a catch on the run because the guy jets it and he throws it over and he makes a great catch, gets the ball in the end zone. And then on third and 19, Aaron gave him an opportunity to make a play. Now he had to make the play, but a lot of times the quarterback throws the ball out of the end zone. Now the DB jumped way too soon.

I don't know what the hell he thought. He must be thinking he had hang time like Jordan. Held the ball halfway there and he jumped. And so now he coming down in the ball. But give Gary Wilson. Gary Wilson played his tail off tonight. Made some exceptional catches. He was short on the third down.

Got it. Made the guy miss. Got the third down. I thought he played well tonight. I thought Devontae, outside of that drop, I thought he played it really well tonight. But Rodgers gave his guys an opportunity tonight to make plays. Hey, listen. I know they might have lost

the last five and won tonight. But, there's a chance Aaron Rodgers can catch fire tonight. Especially with a game like tonight. There's a chance he can catch fire. I know the first quarter, the second quarter, it was abysmal. I know it was horrible. In the third quarter, they played in spurts. They looked

good. Fourth quarter, it looked a littlemal. I know it was horrible. In the third quarter, they played in spurts. They looked good. Fourth quarter, it looked a little decent. If them goddamn Jets... No, not even the Jets. If Aaron Rodgers plays consistent football, I mean, the AFC East can get a little interesting. I don't know, Ocho, if they can

catch Buffalo. No, I didn't say they can catch Buffalo. Oh, you're talking about make a playoff bid because you're going to take 17. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All they got to do is play consistent. He can make a little run. I'm just saying, based on what he has around him with Brees Hall, Garrett

Wilson, Devontae Adams. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they get into any kind of rhythm and get some chemistry and a little confidence, I'm just saying, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised. Ocho, the news of the day, Young Thug is going home.

He played. Hey, that's perfect. Club Shea Shea. Club Shea Shea, Young Thug. Thugger. Matter of fact, wait a minute. You could do a duo. You could have a duo, a duo.

Him and Gunna. Club Shea Shea, Big Meech, Young Thug. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because, listen, I used to work with, never mind, never mind. Big Meat Young Thug yeah yeah I used to work with but he's going home he might be home by now probably

he probably is I know there are some people the hip hop community the rap community in Atlanta I saw a lot of tweets a lot of posts about uh about thugger coming home um you know there's some stipulations um he has to leave metro atlanta um he can't talk to anybody he can't talk to anybody that's affiliated with gangs except his brother and and gunner um right he's on probation for what 15 years 14 15 yeah so but hey put me on probation

the rest of my life i ain't got to go in the can for 20 30 40 damn yeah hey but listen and then he has to move from atlanta right yeah he can't be in metro atlanta so hey and i say metro atlanta what does that mean i mean i, what are the specifics? County. Atlanta. So I go to Smyrna. I go to Gwinnett. They didn't say he had to leave Georgia. Okay.

So he doesn't, he can, he can still be with the Atlanta. Go to Clayco. Yeah. I mean, that's making. Matter of fact, leave the whole state completely. Go somewhere else. True. And go That's maker. Matter of fact, leave the whole state completely. Go somewhere else. True. And go somewhere else and focus on your music.

But yeah, I mean, I saw, who's that? Dre, Drizzy, T.I. A lot of,

hey, a lot of guys that, you know, welcome him home. Like I said, he's a, he's a, he's a,

he's a, he's a big thing in a, in a, he's a big thing in the rap community and uh he's coming home after this long arduous trial he said he didn't want to put his family through this anymore and if he goes give him an opportunity to come home and be with his kids be with his family right i think he has a girlfriend i don't really know much about mariah the scientist yeah yeah i think that's is that a name, Ocho? Yes, sir.

Okay, I'll take your word for it. I don't really know a whole lot about it, but he's coming home and... Yeah. Hey, Gunna, you people see this? Come on, sit down on Club Shea Shea. Let's have us a good time. Big Meech, I got you, bro.

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but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to bitch anthony richardson in favor 39 year old joe flacco even though richardson is just 22 years of age 10 games was enough of a sample size to draw the conclusion that the last year number four overall pick hasn't gotten it done jaylen hurst is a prime example of giving a young quarterback an

opportunity to develop hurt said his development isst is a prime example of giving a young quarterback an opportunity to develop. Hurst said his development is why teens should be patient with young quarterbacks. I think things do take time. Things take time and everybody has a different approach to going in. I wasn't supposed to be the guy I am today. Nobody expected that. But I took advantage of my opportunities and that's what i encourage everyone

to do regardless i don't i don't like the move i don't care what nobody's saying i don't like the move it's your number four pick right yeah it's your number four pick now what i think what what i'm saying is happening i don't like the fact that they're benching him for one he didn't play a lot of college football he didn't play a lot of college football he didn't play a lot of college football. He didn't play a lot of college football. He didn't get a lot of snaps. The amount of snaps that needed to be able to come in and transition into the NFL and be prepared. Just being big, strong, fast, and having

an arm is not going to get it done. It's not going to get it done. So the only way to improve in the NFL is with reps. With reps. With reps. He's the future of the franchise. He's the number four quarterback. So the only reason I think they put Flacco in is to save the season.

Do we have a chance to make a run? So what we're going to do is be four and four. I think, well, they are four and four, right? What's the tech? What's their risk? What's the cost? No, I don't know if they're four and four. You don't think so?

I don't know if they run four games, Ocho. They might have. No, I think. They're four and four. They're they might have they're 4-4 they're 500 you're right so what they're doing what Mr. Syken is doing he's making a change because he feels the team has a chance and an opportunity

to make a run at some point Anthony Richardson will be the future of the Colts but right now we're going to put Flacco in because he gives us they think they feel which is to put Flacco in because he gives us they think, they feel, which is true statistically, Flacco gives them the best chance to win right now and compete. And this

is a compete division because the Texans aren't what they were. Jacksonville is very hit or miss. We know where the Titans are. And look, I know people are saying that he tapped out and that's one of the reasons but you got to look at his record oh cho this guy has a worse completion percentage than tim tebow

tim tebow completed 46 of his passes he's completing 46 44 that's four percent lower than jamarcus russell did we think jamarcus Russell and Tim Tebow were good quarterbacks? No, we didn't. And his completion percentage is worse than theirs. He needs time to watch. They put him in too quick when he wasn't ready.

And what happens is, Ocho, is that when you draft someone that high and you draft him at that position, you're not waiting because after the end of the third year, oh, I'm going to have to make a decision. I'm going to have to get these guys $300, $400, $500 million.

I need to see. Right. And in the process of that, because like you said, he didn't play a whole lot of football and he didn't play a whole lot of football in a pro-style offense. Right. A lot of his stuff, he was running the football well you know he said the nfl was easy i can't tell if the nfl is easy and you complete 44 of your passes what the hell you

think would happen if the nfl was hard don't you can i tell you one more thing on yeah that i don't like and i'm just saying chat y'all stay with me quick, real quick. Listen to me when it comes to the game of football. When you're drafted that high, you have expectations, you have friends, you have people telling you this, you that, and you get to the NFL, you get drafted that high, then you plan, you have a certain high,

a certain aura and feeling about yourself when you feel good. You know what it feels like to get benched on? Do you understand what it feels like to get benched on? Do you understand what it feels like to get benched, though? As a quarterback, forget some of the other positions, because some of the other positions, you have an opportunity to bounce back,

and you have an opportunity to make those plays again. But as a quarterback, I think it does something, especially when you're young, it does something to your psyche. I'm assuming. It has to. It has to do something to your psyche. So now, you're telling me I'm playing bad. I'm playing so bad.

You're going to sit me down and bench me for Joe Flacco. So if I do get the opportunity to play again, what's the first fucking thing I'm going to do? I'm going to be goddamn indecisive. Well, hopefully you learn. Hey, I'm going to be hesitant. I'm not going to make the big plays I was making earlier.

I just, I don't know. Give me his last three games. It's weird to me. Like nine and 10 passes. Hopefully, hopefully he gets an opportunity to sit and watch. And then he can come. He said, well, Joe, what if Joe asked him and he can ask Joe, Joe, what did you see? Why did you go there?

Because that's the biggest thing. Oh, Joe, you can't throw 30 passes and complete eight of them in the NFL. You're not going to win like that. Yeah. You know what? And then we can't we can't play in the receivers because they got they got a squad now. Yeah. And they got some

boys now. Listen, normally I would have mentioned receivers, but they got they got some dogs now i i listen normally i would have mentioned receivers but they got they got some dogs that they're jr pitman they got another they got another guy i forget the other guy's name i think he might be no 15 or something but he can go to 10 number 10 okay yeah the name this is like okay i don't know his last name boy that boy be playing some ball boy oh joe yes sir uh against houston in Sunday's loss, he was 10 of 32. In a win against Miami, he was 10 of 24. Pittsburgh, I think that's when Flacco came in, he was 3 of 4.

Against Chicago, he was 10 of 20. Against Green Bay, he was 17 of 34. Against Houston, he was 9 of 19. Ocho, you're not going to win very many games with numbers like that, bro. Not in today's Ocho, because they've set it up for you to throw the ball. Think about the incidental contact.

Think about the holding. Think about roughing the passer. Think about so many things that can go right when you throw the ball. Really, when you run the ball, the only thing that can go wrong or go right for you is somebody face-masking. There's a chance you get a holding on the

offensive line. There's a chance you get a holding on the wide receivers. So there are more things that can go wrong when you run the ball as opposed to when you throw it. Because there's so many things defense illegal

hands to the face why incidental contact holding pass interference right roughing the passer the league has been set up for you to throw it that's why they paid wide receivers making 30 million quarterback making 60 million what does that tell you ocho yeah and running backs making five million so what do they try to tell you to do ocho throw that ball throw it um but i i hope alex that's the name to say alex pierce i hate that man ocho it's okay it's it i mean i I'm saying I only hate it I'm talking about the mental part because when you get benched it does something to you

it's like losing your job and you get demoted in the corporate world you're like damn all the motherfucking work I done put in I'm trying the work I'm putting in is not turning into what it should be on Sundays

then you start questioning yourself what happens when you get fired putting in is not turning into what it should be on Sundays. What am I doing wrong? Then you start questioning yourself. What happens when you get fired? Oh, that's even worse. See, guess what? I got fired from CBS. What'd I do? Go get me a job at Fox. Got fired at Fox. What'd I do? I just get bigger and bigger.

Right, right, right. Because I learned. Yeah. I learned, and that's what he needs to do. He needs to learn. Look, everybody can say, well, he got fired because of this or he got fired because of that. I'll leave that to the Twitter committee

and the YouTube tribe because everybody has an opinion on what they think happened and transpired and nobody really knows because you weren't in the room. Right. Oh, he got fired because of this. Bro, stop. You don't know.

Everybody likes to speculate. I'm like, damn. I didn't know, Ocho. I was this big of a commodity. It seems like now everybody that got a YouTube channel got to talk about me. I appreciate it. You know, Keith, my algorithm keep Ocho and the nightcap and club Shay Shay keep us going.. I appreciate it. You know, Keith's my algorithm. Keep Ocho and the nightcap and club Shay Shay keep on going. So I

appreciate it. But he just needs to take a step back and don't look. You know what? You got to get better. You got to get better. It's really that simple. Got to. You ain't got no choice. But I'm thinking about it. I mean, can you, how do you get

better at the quarterback position? Is it by taking reps? Is it by watching? It depends on what type of player he is. Yes. You know, it depends on what type of player he is. And the funny thing about it is you can do it over and over and over and over and over in practice. But when it comes to them bullets flying on game day, on the real Sunday, it's different.

You do. It's different. You do. Your decision-making has to be on point. You got to be sharper than the number two pencil now. At the end of the day, even though you can rely on your athleticism, you still have to throw the ball from the pocket. And it helps that Mahomes is great at improvisation.

It was great that Aaron Rodgers was great at improvisation, but at the end of the day, they still had to throw the ball with accuracy from the pocket. That athleticism, you can only go so far because them guys, them big guys over there, they can catch your ass. They bounce just as fast.

Yes! They bounce just as fast. Yes! I just hope he takes this, he learns from this, he grows from this, and he becomes the player that they selected him to be with the number four overall draft pick two years ago. And if he does that, don't cry, oh, poor me, I didn't get a fair chance. Bro, you got more than a fair chance.

But they see that they got a chance chance. Bro, you got more than a fair chance. But they see that they got a chance in this division, Ocho. Yeah. That's why they made the change. Yes. That's why they made the change. Coach wide receiver Josh Downs was asking if he thinks he'll play with Anthony Richardson

again. At the end of the day, Joe is like 40 years old. So he's only got so many more years. I'd say AR is 22, 23. He's still the number four overall pick. I know he's going to start again. I agree. I agree. Check this out, Ocho. Does the NFL

have a quarterback development problem? Anthony Richardson, 22. Bench. Bryce Young, 23. Bench. Trey Lance, 24. Bench. Traded. Justin Fields, 25. Bench. Will Le 23, bench. Trey Lance, 24, bench, traded. Justin Fields, 25, bench. Will Levis, 25, bench. Zach Wilson, 25, bench.

Mack Jones, 26, bench. Kenny Pickett, 26, bench. Hey, that's a good one. You know what? Every quarterback you just named, the situation on why they were benched is different. The teams and where the team is structured are completely different. Some of those quarterbacks,

in order to succeed, they would have to be damn near Superman. Yes. They would have to be damn... Bryce Young would have to be Superman. Peyton Manning ain't succeeding in that. People don't realize what Peyton had. He't succeeding in that people don't realize what Peyton had

he had Marvin Harrison and he had Marshall Falk when he got there and he had Ken Dilder yeah it's different and he had what was the other he had another nah he might have

he might have came later I forget the other tight end name but I know Dallas was the way I was done going Nah, he might have came late. I forget the other tight end name. But I know Dallas was the way I was done going. But I'm saying Manning had a nice support system when he arrived there. Think about Marvin Harrison with the first Ballot Hall of Fame. Marshall with the first Ballot Hall of Famer. He's the offensive player of the year. He's an MVP.

Man, look what Bryce Young got. None of these quarterbacks had anything close to that. I'm not sure they even had a Pro Bowl. Well, I think DJ Moore went to the Pro Bowl. So I think Zach Wilson, well, Gary Wilson was

what? Offensive player of the year, Gary Wilson was, what, Offensive Player of the Year. Gary Wilson was Offensive Player of the Year. But for the most part, you got to have some weapons, man. Yeah. For these young guys, you got to surround them with a talent until he's able. So you have to put pieces around him, Ojo,

to carry him until he can able run on his own and he can carry you. He can carry the talent, yes. Right now, oh yeah, Marcus Pollard. That was his name, Marcus Pollard. Okay. Agents are telling kids to stay in college if you don't have at least two years of starting.

Ocho, it's hard because Anthony Richardson probably got $30 million guaranteed and in three years he has an opportunity to make $250 to $300. How you tell a kid to stay in school when that's on the horizon? Yeah. I think it's different though.

Every kid is different. You having to stay in school for two years just because you stay in school two years doesn't mean you're going to transition and all of a sudden it's going to work out. You can stay in school one and go to the league and turn out to be I'm not saying turn out to be

Patrick Mahoney. Have a great season. Joe Burrow started basically one year. Listen, there are some players that are special and understand the skill set and I call it how sharp how sharp they are some some players that take much longer some don't some hit the ground running but ocho you

know what we've got to get out this notion that everybody that comes in the nfl is going to succeed when has that ever been the case it's not ocho it's now that every think about how many other quarterbacks have flamed out. This is not unique. Hey, situation and circumstance matters. Yes. Where you go matters. I really think it does.

I mean, I think the thing is now that we're like, oh, he's a, well, sometimes it's just not meant to be. Everybody that comes to the NFL ain't going to have a, there's a reason why the average NFL career is three years because if everybody made it, the average NFL career would be seven, eight, ten, twelve. There's a reason why.

And it's okay. I know, look, I know these guys, oh man, but they were so good in college. How many times have we seen guys that were so good in college not be able to cut it in the NFL? And there have been guys that didn't have great stellar college careers turn out to be great pros. But we just can't say it's just like,

just because you go to Harvard, you grad get a degree from Harvard, that don't mean you're going to be the best businessman. That doesn't mean that you're going to be, it might give you an opportunity because you've had access. It opens some doors. Yes. But at the end of the day,

there could be somebody that went to an HBCU that went to a mid school that be just as great. So this notion that, Oh, the system is failing. Yeah. Maybe in some situations, but even with great coaching,

everybody is not going to make it. There's never been a situation that everybody, oh, he got a law degree. Oh, he about to make $500,000 a year. Oh, he got a med degree. He's about to be a great neurosurgeon or a great this. No.

No, it doesn't work like that, guys. But I think the thing is that we're looking at these quarterbacks and we're paying so much more close attention that we're like, damn, what's going on? Yeah. And then it makes it even worse when they're high picks, huh? Because, listen, when you go that high, not only do they have their own expectations,

shoot, us, even me as a fan, I have expectations as well. I'm expecting you to be the face of that franchise and change it. Show me why they picked you that high. I enjoy it. Remember, listen, I want quarterback, but quarterback need to start talking shit.

That's the problem. They too quiet. What did Jamar Chase say before he got drafted? When he got drafted? Yeah, but Jamar Chase ain't the quarterback. I'm finna go there and break every record. What the hell is he on pace to keep on doing? Guess what?

Break every damn record. Jamar Chase is going against 1DB. When you got little mofos trying to tear your head off, they're the reason why quarterbacks keep their damn mouth shut. Okay, okay. Because LT and TJ Watt and Nick Bosa's going to bust your ass. So you go out there talking, oh, I ain't worried about nothing.

What you think is going to happen? What you think is going to happen? You know what's going to happen. Hey, could you imagine if you played quarterback? No. No, I couldn't. Because my instinct is to talk ish, and the next thing you know, my helmet sideways.

Hey, I was just thinking about that, man. That's funny. It's a whole different ball game. And sometimes guys come in with targets on their backs anyway. Right, right. But look, and that's the thing. Also, Ocho, when these guys come in, they not going. It's not a situation like

James Worthy he got drafted number one overall and went to the Lakers after they had just won the championship if you a high draft pick at quarterback you go into a bull jive team it's simple it ain't no other way around it ain't no quarterback getting drafted

going and it's because it's different you ain't getting drafted by the chiefs. If you're a quarterback anyway. Oh, no, you're not getting drafted to Buffalo. You're not getting drafted to any of the teams that went to the playoff the year before.

Right. So, and if you do, you're going to be in the late rounds. Right. As a backup. And you ain't got no expectations. They groom you.

Uh, uh, uh, you look got no expectations. They grooming you. You look at the Chiefs, they not taking a quarterback peer. They might go get a quarterback that's been Carson Wentz. Right. Somebody ain't got no expectations. You know what you're here for. If something happened to Mahone, we're going to need you for two or three games. You've been a star in this league.

You played some football. You played some good football. You played a lot more bad football than good football. But, hey, we believe you can give us a stretch somewhere between three and five weeks until hopefully Patrick Mahomes, nothing happens, and he'll be back. But where y'all thought it was going to go?

Everybody doesn't get a situation where they get like an Aaron Rodgers and they get an opportunity to sit for three years. Patrick Mahomes had to sit for a year. Yep. But everybody isn't getting those kind of ideal situations, Ocho, because everybody coming in,

and I'm sure Aaron probably wanted to start, but you know everybody coming in. Oh, man. Oh, man. Hell no. The way he, the way, the way guys are wired.

It didn't matter that where you went to. Hey, you like, Hey, I can play. I need to get on the field, but I don't know. Look,

I understand what agents are telling kids, but Ocho, if I got an opportunity, I'm going to make $30 million guaranteed. I ain't staying in school. I'll holler at you, homie. First of all, no matter if I'm in NFL, what am I going to school to do?

College is supposed to teach you how to make money. Get a job and make money. The NFL is speeding that process up. Why would I deny that? Why would I slow it down? By waiting. And run the risk of getting hurt if I get hurt I'm going to get hurt on the NFL dime with that 30 million

guaranteed that's what me personally now everybody got to make their decision sometimes you get a situation like a Peyton and Eli they're dead they're middle class upper middle class they cool but people that look like me and you we ain't no upper middle class.

Uh-uh. We poor. And our job is to get our family out of that situation. And as soon as we can do that, that's what we're going to do. Every time. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences

with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra,

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The link is being dropped in the chat. Let me show you. I'm going to get me a pair too. I'm going to buy me a pair. These are some late additions. Ash taught me in the, uh, what is them? These are the off whites. Hey boy, what's that?

What size them is? 13. So, uh, these made it. So, uh, these are these are going uh they were last made ass uh ass talk me into going to those uh selling those here give me these yeah take them out

but damn i don't wear no size 13, though. Off-white. I like them. Well, hopefully. These are the DMPs. You probably know. You probably recognize these.

These. I like them. Oh, I know what them is. Them the pad leather joints. I like that. So they made a late edition.

Hey, why your shoes so clean? You ain't wear them? I've worn those one time. I've worn them one time. And the blue. You wear your shoe one time. But I put them in the closet. They stay.

Yep. Hey, that's rich people stuff. Wear your shoe one time and never again I ain't never been able to but that's so pretty these are late ads also I wore these one time um

damn this is a pack most people know these but this is a pack the other shoe was a pack also that's a mellow shoe this is the other. Most people know these, but this is a pack. The other shoe was a pack also. That's a Mellow shoe? That's a Mellow shoe right there? This is Jordan.

No, not that one. I'm talking about the one on your right hand. Both of them are Jordans. But they just came. This is what they call it. This is a pack. So two shoes came in one box. Let me show you.

Okay. I thought, was it Mellow with Jordan? Yeah. Okay, I see. The two shoes came just like the DMP pack. Two shoes came in just one box. I didn't know. Hey, that baby blue

that powder blue real nice now. I'm hoping it goes well. I don't really know. Man, I got so much stuff. Ocho, I ain't going to lie, Joe. I have no... Yeah, you don't know. That's rich. That's rich.

That's rich people talk. I know exactly how many shoes I got. I got eight pair of shoes. I don't even know what this is. This is Air Jordan black and white. Them zebras. And I got these. I don't know if you've ever

seen these. I've worn these one time. The slacks? No, it just lifts. It should just lift. It's a flap. Yeah. Yes. But yeah, I want to see some more shoes. Here. Come on, come on, come on.

Okay, with the pants. These are the Ronnie Figs. Ronnie who? Ronnie Figs. I want those. Ronnie who? Ronnie Fig. Here, just take my thought. Oh, yeah? As buddy do the collabs with Kith.

I know who that is. Yes, yes, yes. So all the pins are in place. I've worn these one time. Okay, okay, okay, okay. They made it. Anything? okay okay okay okay they made it anything well you got some shoes boy

well I'll add these to the next drop oh that's the Tiffany blue the Tiffany AF1 well you got money I'll also add these. That's the Dior's? Dior Jordan's. Ooh, you got

money. Yeah, I like that. These are the LVs. I've worn these twice. Ooh, you got money. Yeah. And all of these. Oh, you sell the Kanye's?

If this one goes well, yeah, I'm going to sell them. I'm going to sell everything. The only one is I have these also. You're going to be rich. Oh, red Octobers. These are, I got these from a guy, Richie. I know he always watched the show out of Boston. And he and his brother started following me.

And he was a big shoe guy and he wore size 13 and he and I was talking one day and he said oh I got something I want to show you so he took a picture of it and he sent it to me my dm's I said man let me get those he said I don't know I want to I want to keep these right I said come on man I need those uh no he just he just called me he called me sharp I want to keep these I said man I need them I said I'll tell you what I do he a big Patriots fan I said if the Patriots

go to the Super Bowl I give you two tickets to the Super Bowl he said okay Ocho the Super Bowl hadn't even happened yet but he said okay he sent me the shoes. All he did was meet me on

Twitter. He sent me the shoes. So he's like, now his girl at the time, his wife now, she's having a baby. He's like, man, I ain't going to be able to go. I said, I'll tell you what I'd do.

What about if I get you tickets to the AFC Championship game? Now, that's the game in which the Flaygate happened, the Colts. So I got him tickets to that game. I said, man, this man done sent me these shoes. He done sent me these shoes. I said, I got to do something. I said, I i tell you what since you couldn't go to the uh super bowl and i know that was a big thing if they win the super bowl

they're gonna play on a thursday night game i'll get you tickets to that game i got in 50 yard line tickets to that game and so he said promise me this if you ever want to get rid of the red octobers you give me an opportunity so i'm gonna give him the first opportunity if he don't want to buy them i'll put them up in the next in the next thing with the uh like like uh well you got your pockets deep boy you got all type of shoes over there what i ain't never seen some of them. Some of them shoes I only seen on the magazine and on Twitter and Instagram. Oh, I still got, I still got, um, I got, I still got some very, very exclusive stuff. Uh, the murals, uh, a lot of, a lot of stuff. Like I've only worn like maybe once or twice.

And for me, it's time for somebody else to enjoy it. I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm at this stage now. Um, I'm kind of like phased out of it, Ocho. And I'm never, I'm never gonna. And Ash is saying that the, uh, the link is open now. And so you could order. Hold on. I guess I'm, I'm, I'm selling some shoes tomorrow too.

Okay. Uh, Ash said the auction is tomorrow, but there are things that are on the site that you can buy right now. You heard me? Huh? I'm going to sell some shoes tomorrow, too. Yeah, I do have the Soulfly ones. Yes. These right here?

Huh? I got these right here. These Air Force Ones. Yeah. Uh, uh, poly leather, elephant skin.

Made in China. Uh, two of two. Yeah. Ain't too many people got these. I wore these about seven times. Yeah. You can see the bottom dirty.

Yeah. Yeah. I've, uh, I'm trying to, give me that, that's all. Yeah.

As you can see, I'm wearing these shoes one time, Ocho. What's them? Let me see. The platinum Yeezys. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh. What a thing. Nice. What a thing. Nice. Same with these. I've only worn

them twice. I mean, once. I wore them once. worn them twice I mean once I wore them once like I said I just I think for me now being able to give back to Savannah State would be more to me than keeping the shoes I mean I've had them I mean some of the stuff that I'm getting

rid of I've had an extremely extremely let me see that let me see the right there. Yeah. Is the shoes in there? And you put a battery here. Man, this thing woke me up in the middle of the night. I was like, what the hell is this? What's that?

It's sneakers. In the bus? Oh, them Air Max. Them 95. Yeah. No, them ain't. Them ones. You ain't wear them?

I'm number one. Hey, you just be buying stuff, man. You be wasting money, man. I had a lot of stuff. I had a lot of stuff. I do. I still got, I probably still got probably 150,

200 pair. Yeah, see you tripping, man. You's a hoarder. You's a hoarder. They need to do a show on you collecting shoes for no reason just to have shoes. Nah, but that's what I do. I have 12 pair of shoes. I have 12 pair of shoes. I have 12

pair of shoes. They are 12 months in the year. So I always tell myself, my grandma always said, boy, you only need one pair of shoe a month. And that's how I live. I have 12 pair of shoes, one for each month. That's it. And I never go

over 12. You know what Oo back with like with ash and i was at fs1 i was like you know what ash i'm gonna wear a different pair of shoes every day and every day every day i said i'm gonna wear i i told her i said i got i could wear a different pair of shoes for at least a year and a half maybe two years nah you can't damn so we started out, I went like a month. I said, man, later for this, because I got to go in the box, I got to take

them out of the box, I got to lace them up. I said, man, later for this. And so that's why I just like, you know what? And I just wore the same shoe. So I said, I'm done with this. And I was like, I'm going to sell. I'm going to sell. And cool kicks, like was like, I'm going to sell. I'm going to sell. And Kool Kicks, like, hey, you want to sell it? I'm like, yeah, I will.

I absolutely will. What not? What not? Well, we said Kool Kicks, right? We're at Kool Kicks headquarters. But what not says, like, ask me would I be interested in party ways? I was like, well, how many? Like, well, how many you want to sell?

I say, at least I probably, let's see how many I got. Man, Ocho, I had a whole room. My closet, they had already taken over my closet. Then I ended up taking a bed out and putting his shoes stacked up in the room where the bed used to be. So I said, no, I'm done. And I still probably got like 75 pair in Atlanta, like Oregon Duck 3s. I still got some 5s.

I still got like 14s. I still got some air. It's just time. It's time, Mocho. It's time. Yeah, it is. You're going to feel better about yourself, too. You need to get rid of those.

I'm sure the money's probably going to a good cause. You get rid of them, create some space. I want to have a scholarship. I want to have a scholarship funded by Alma Mater. I like it. I like that. I like that. That's what I want.

That's what I want. It's the first time that I'm going to do something and people will know about it. Because a lot of times I give money to various charities and they have one simple, I give them one, I don't care. Okay, I understand what this charity is and I'm sure y'all are going to use y'all discretion and distribute the money in a place it's supposed to go. I said, but you can never tell that I gave you anything.

I said, if you ever tell that I gave you money, I'll never give to this organization again. Because I'm not giving it because I'm not giving it I'm not giving it for that reason people don't need to know I like people who are like you don't do nothing for your community you don't do nothing you don't know what I do

so this is for a worthy cause and so if it goes well the next collection I'm probably going to sell everything but about. I'll probably keep like 10 pair. I'll probably keep 15 pair. But there are shoes that I can wear on the regular. Not not the not the. And I got some of the Yeezys like when he first went to Adidas.

Right. The 750 boot. I got I got a couple of pair of those. I got a black. I got the black, I got the brown I got like some of the 350's I got some of the early stuff that he did when he first went to Adidas

so I like it that's where y'all rich folks be going crazy with the shoes man look I was with nike and that definitely helps but a lot of times i would give it like to my teammates burns and bucket got more

ish than i did my sister uh you know she got a lot of stuff my sister still wears she still got her old shoes in the box i ain't played in 20 years right but she wore the same shoes uh but burns bucket uh a couple of people like that i got a little stuff but my a lot of my teammates they would want stuff and i would get it for them and so that's how it kind of started ocho is that with that and then i would see stuff i was like man i won't okay i want this i want this i want this and i and so sometimes i was able to get it sometimes i wasn't and i had to pay um but it's time to part with it now it really is uh and so hopefully uh i mean i don't like i said i don't know i mean ash was telling me some of the prices like one

yeah one of them is already priced at 12K 12K what? 12,000 American dollars? American Shit, well y'all got me Boy, don't play that, what? 12,000 nothing

Well, I don't even spend Everything in the buy now is in the 200s The big stuff, the big stuff is coming tomorrow like the camos and the stuff like that. And you know, I got the chunky dunks and I got a lot of dunks. I got, is the strawberry dunks in that?

The strawberry, I got strawberry dunks that's included. So strange love, strange love, strange love. That's what they call it. Too bad shit. Oh, did we include that size eight i got a size alv yes they're real yeah i show yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. That's an expensive hobby that I choose not to partake in. I stick to my simple shoes. But I tell you what, collecting shoes is cheaper than watches.

That's for damn sure. Yeah, yeah. That's for damn sure. That's a very expensive hobby. I had two expensive hobbies. One is more expensive than the other, for sure. That's a very expensive hobby. I had two expensive hobbies. One is more expensive than the other, for sure. Yeah, you know, I started dibbling, dabbling in some

watches, you know. The money coming in a little different these days. But I got, like I said, like I said, I wanted to do something for Savannah State. I wanted to establish a scholarship fund. And give back for an institution that did so much for me.

The doctors are my favorite. Joyce McLemore, who was my remedial reading teacher. Um, Joanne green, who was my, my read, um, my remedial English teacher. Cause I started Savannah state and all developmental studies, all remedial classes.

And those Scott Simpson was my remedial math teacher. He got me out of there. And then I got with Haynes Walton. I got with Norman Elmore. I got with man. Clara Bain, Gay Hewitt, Scott Smith.

I mean, uh, uh, Steven Smith and my life, my life changed. My life changed. They opened my eyes and I couldn't have done. I eyes. And I couldn't have done, I couldn't,

I couldn't, I wouldn't be the person that I am without that experience. I met a guy that's like my brother Bucket at Savannah State. All of my kids, all of my kids' moms went to Savannah State. So, man, it's going to be, it's gonna be a great

honor for me to go and present that check to the president that's gonna be a proud moment for me Ocho but that's not the end of it now so now that's gonna be a regular occurrence. So every year I'm going to donate to that fund.

Right. And obviously, you know, hopefully I got at least 20 more times around the state, 20 more summers. Obviously, in my my state, Savannah State will get a big chunk also. So I'm very appreciative to what Savannah State has been able to do for me and help me in my life. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming.

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