Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Joe Burrow not enough, Patrick Mahomes poor play, Lamar struggles vs. Steelers

Episode Date: November 18, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers taking it down to the wire with Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals on Sunday Night Football. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills handing Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and the Kansas City Chiefs their first loss since Christmas 2023, Russell Wilson and the Pittsburgh Steelers beating Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry and the Baltimore Ravens without scoring one touchdown and much more!03:13 - Show start03:41 - Intro05:00 - Chargers v Bengals21:18 - Bills v Chiefs32:10 - Steelers v Ravens51:16 - Jets v Colts1:03:39 - Detroit v Jags(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm not so sure if they tried to stop him or they let him score wanting to get the ball back with an opportunity to do what they did at the end of the game Ocho which is throw the ball into the end zone with a chance to tie the game or go for two and win the game but it was batted down at the end

Joe Burrow 356 yards three touchdowns he was 28 of 50 356 zero touch three touchdowns zero interception he was sacked three times and they ran the ball decent ocho uh 25 attempt for 110 yards um but they ran what 70 more plus 70 plays to like 58 um they ran substantially more plays had time of possession was in their favor but the thing that

i hate so much for joey b is that he knows he's got to score touchdowns. Yeah. Give his defense credit Ochoa for the most part in the second half, they held him to three points until that final drive in which they gave up a touchdown. And I'm not so sure they didn't let him score because they wanted time on the clock. Didn't want them to bleed the clock down,

kick a walk off field goal without Joe Burrow having an opportunity to touch the football. But the defense played better in the second half. But it's hard to spot teams Ocho 21 points in this league and then track them down. To Bengals credit, they tried to come back and make a ball game. Ocho

you're up against it now. You're really up against the gun right now with a 4-7 record. And you still have two games against the Steelers. And the Steelers are better are much better than we previously thought Ocho um but this game right here the charge is 34 the bingo's 27 Ocho what did you like and what didn't you like I mean what I didn't like is that I didn't like the first half I didn't I don't like the fact that we're still starting the same way we've been

starting since week one we start slow we allow ourselves to put ourselves in a goddamn hole and have to climb out of that hole because our offense is somewhat of a juggernaut. If we are good as we are, if we are good as we are in the second half of football game, defense, defense, obviously they did what they needed to do in the second half. They give us the opportunity to come back in the game and do what we need to

do to make it a competitive, make it a competitive game. And at some point maybe take the to come back in the game and do what we need to do to make it a competitive game. At some point, maybe take the lead or maybe tie the game. In the first half, when we get down into the red zone, the field goals is killing us, baby. The field goals is killing us, man.

I'm looking at the TV, understanding now, when we get into the red area, anywhere from the 20 on in, we have to find a way to put the ball in the end zone. The defense is struggling to find a way to stop the goddamn charges in the first half. I'm not sure what adjustments Lou made in the second half where he gave us the opportunity defensively. We were able to stop him and hold him to three points,

but we were able to come back and make it a goddamn game. But at that point, it's the word I'm looking for? Nut cutting time. Nut crunching time. And we weren't able to get it. And it's too late. We have to start the fucking game a lot faster. You do.

Not to put ourselves in the goddamn hole where everything in the second half has to be that much goddamn perfect. Yeah. And that's the thing. With the offense we have, there's no goddamn reason, man, to be able to spot a team 21 points

and be able to come back in a game when you really shouldn't be able to if you spot a team 21 points. Ain't no way in hell you should be able to come back. Even if the momentum doesn't shift, you said always, it's about how much you extend and how much grace you give yourself or you give

a team and if you got a 21 21 point lead chances of coming back it should be goddamn simple we do have an offense where you can do it and make it happen but we gotta start fast man it's killing me man the difference is up and down it's so inconsistent offensively we start so goddamn slow we do get in the red area we don't't get six points. We get three points and it's killing us. That's really the issue and people keep saying, and Joe is playing well, but he's got to get the ball in the end zone

considering how poorly your defense has been playing because they're second to last in red zone touchdown possession. They're giving up 72% of the drives when they team get the ball in the red zone, they get the ball in the end zone. I don't know. And when team get the ball in the red zone, they get the ball in the end zone. Yeah. I don't know.

And when you get the ball into the red zone, you kick field goals. I don't know how you win those games, but let me tell you how you got back into the game because typical in Harbaugh fashion, he started to run the ball and they started, and his bingo started to run blitz. So now they catch Ocho

and you get his second and 12. Now they got you playing behind the sticks. Okay. Let's just say for the sake of argument on second and 12, you get five. Okay, now it's third and seven. You get another five, which it should be first down. Now it's third and two. Now it's third and three. You see what happened?

And so they kept doing that. Bengals know, hey, this Harbaugh, he ain't going to do anything crazy. He going to stick to the script. He going to run the ball on first down. Let's get him with a run blitz. Boom. And they got him playing from behind the sticks. And then Herbert, I don't know if I'm the only one,

but as the game's starting the Titans, he starts the Titans. And this game was very reminiscent of what we saw against Jacksonville. They had a 27-point lead. Now, this is a different coaching staff, but he's the same quarterback. And as the game got tighter and tighter, all of a sudden, the throws that he was making in the first half, when he's playing loose, boom, boom, boom.

Listen, you don't want to make mistakes, especially as a young quarterback like Herbert. You don't want to put the ball in harm's way when you know a team is coming back or the momentum has shifted in the Bengals' favor. So again, your decision-making, it becomes a little bit different as a quarterback as opposed to being a gunslinger that you were

in the first half and taking some of those chances. Well, you're the reason why they're probably coming back because you're not throwing the ball, and on third down, you're getting the ass off the field as opposed to staying on the field. Yeah, it's difficult hey when a team knows you got to throw the ball it gets very very difficult now the chargers you know they're like okay let's give up nothing cheap nothing deep we'll make them nickel and dime our way down the field but what happens when you do that is that you allow the offense to get in a rhythm you allow

joey b to get into a rhythm with higgins and with Chase and now you got your hands full so because when you try to heat him up and when you try to get him off that point he's already got a rhythm those guys have gotten a rhythm now and so it's a lot more difficult to try to stop a team once you've allowed them to get into a rhythm and that's the thing I don't understand either I don't understand how the the Bengals every single game is the same damn thing we start they spotting teams 10 they spotting teams 14 knowing knowing if you spot a team let's just say for the sake of argument oh joe you spot a team that knowing what your defense is so even if we're somehow able to finagle our way back in the ballgame,

what's the likelihood of our defense going to be able to stay in path for the entirety? Now, the Bengals kicker, now McPherson, he's in his own head. And we're going to talk about this the same thing with Justin Tucker. He's no longer automatic like he once was from the field goal or the PAT. But the Bengals, Ocho, they got their work

cut out for them. They basically got to go 6-0. Yeah, we don't have a choice. They got to go 6-0. Yeah, we don't have a choice. Joe Burrow came out two weeks ago and said we had to win seven of the last nine. Well, you done lost two. Yeah, my point exactly. We done lost two of those already.

So now, I mean, if there's a team that can do it, listen to me real quick and chat for those of you that are watching right now. If there is a team that can do it, listen to me real quick. And chat, chat, for those of you that are watching right now. If there is a team that can do it offensively, from an offensive standpoint, schematically, tactically, it is them, the way they're built offensively. But we got to be able to start the game fast. You got to put the players in advantageous situations. You know you just can't play with your offense, right? Get it done.

Listen, I know what you're trying to say. You can't say we can't play with your offense, right? Get it done. Yeah, listen. I know what you're going to say. You can't say we can't play with our offense, but Joe has to overcome the bad play on defense. He has to overcome them having lulls, different lulls in the first half of the game. We don't have a choice. Ocho.

We don't have a choice. Ocho, you just gave up 34. You gave up 41. You gave up 38. Come on, man. I know what you're saying. I know what you're going to say. There's nothing I can do.

There's nothing I can do. I'm just saying from the outside in as a fan, as a fan of the Bengals and as a fan of the game of football in general, the only way the Bengals are going to be able to win games, the offense has to overcome bad defensive play. The offense is going to have to overcome the little spells and the spells in the first half and the spells in the second half. You're going to have to extend,

extend not plays, but the scoreline and be able to play from ahead and try to extend that lead as much as possible depending on when that defense decides to have those lows. I'm just trying to figure out. They got to damn near play perfect,

man. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Before we go any further. They damn near got to play perfect. Chat, before we go any further, if your team didn't win today, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. Come on, man. Don't do that. Come on, man. All I know about the Broncos is one. Come on, man. Don't do that. Come on, man. All I know about Broncos, the Broncos won.

Come on, man. Broncos won. Did you see the Broncos hang 38 on them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We 6-5. Oh, boo. I mean, I tried to tell you about this. Ojo, y'all, look, like I said, you still got

the Steelers twice. You got the Bengals twice. That's four games. I don't know who they have outside of that. You said we got the Bengals twice. Y'all got the Browns twice. Y'all got the Steelers twice. That's four. You only got six games left.

Yeah, man. They got the Browns once again at home. Steelers, Cowboys. Okay. Oh, y'all got the Broncos too. All right. Well, listen, I'm going to go out on a limb.

I'm going to go out on a limb. I'm going to say, I'm going to go out on a limb I'm going to say I'm going to say it's up to Joe Burrow and that offense man it's up to Zach Taylor if we want to win these next what six games you know what Ocho hold on

before you say anything talk to me nice now talk to me nice hold on hold on. Before you say anything, before you say anything, talk to me nice now. Okay. Talk to me nice. Hold on. So they got the Steelers on the 1st of December, so that's in two weeks, right? Yeah.

Yes, sir. So your guys go on a buyout show. So you got the Steelers at home. You're at the Cowboys. You're at the Titans. Those should be wins. You should be able to beat the Browns. It's going to come down. I believe your season's going to hang in the ballot. Can you at the Titans. Those should be wins. You should be able to beat the Browns. It's going to come down.

I believe your season's going to hang in the ballot. Can you beat the Steelers? Last game of the season on January 5th in Pittsburgh. I think that's what it's going to come down to. I truly believe that's what it's going to come down to. I think for us as a team, offensively

and defensively, Lou will be able to get those boys together and find a way to get some type of game plan, some type of I don't even know. I don't even know at this point because the season is almost over. So we shouldn't be having these issues

defensively. Now again, we played very, very well to allow the offense to be able to get back into the game simply because like you did say to piggyback off what you said, having the Chargers playing from behind the sticks, making it a little easier, putting the ball back in the offense's hand and allowing them to do what they need to do.

But the offense that we saw in the second half of the game that was able to come back from a 2-1 point lead is what we need from the beginning of the game, from the start of the game. I'm not sure what the difference is in the play call in the second half from the first, but whatever we did in the second half,

we need to start the goddamn game like that. Throw the goddamn kitchen sink at them, motherfuckers. I don't know. If y'all don't beat the Steelers in the first game in December, it's over for y'all. Yeah. You ain't got to say it like that. I just,

I just said, not really, not, not really. I asked you to talk nice to me, man. I don't know what's going on with your Wi-Fi. You got to tell me what's going on with your Wi-Fi.

It ain't working. It keep fading in and out. Did you got a, do you get the uh because they give you two types you can play the extra $15 and get the super high five or you can get the uh the run of the mill can you see me yeah we see you but it's

your audio that keeps fading in and out oh man damn see I don't like when I be in these hotels where you want me to try but it's your audio that keeps fading in and out. Oh, man. Damn. See, I don't like when I be in these hotels, boy. You want me to try to get the better Wi-Fi or you want me to keep going? What you want me to do? Well, you probably should have got that from the beginning,

but we learned. Lesson learned moving forward. Justin Herbert now has 15 game-winning drives in his career. Only Patrick Mahomes and Kirk Cousins have more since 2020 when Herbert entered the league. I guess somebody wrote a text from NFCGM. The amount of regret the teams have for not hiring

Jim Harbaugh when they had the chance is very real. Ocho, will Jim Harbaugh be the best thing to have happen to Herbert in his career? Absolutely. Absolutely. You have to understand I see Harba his career. Absolutely. Absolutely. You have to understand, I see Harbaugh similar to a Dan Campbell. I see Harbaugh similar to that of a Deion Sanders.

You go somewhere and the places that you do go, not only do you turn the franchise or the program or the organization around that you're with, the quarterback that you're attached to also has success. Yes. Being better with the ball offensively, being able to process information and make sure you play it a way where you always give your team the best chance to win the game, which is why I think you saw

what you did in the second half with him not making the desperation throws, which allowed the Bengals to come back in this game. The goddamn Chargers in a whole, in its totality, they look completely different with a few different pieces defensively, but the defense looks different. The offense looks different. Quinn Johnson, young brother, I salute you. Young brother, I salute you. Your confidence is there.

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Look, I mean, people, see, the thing that I hate, Ocho, is that when we analyze or critique a great player, and that's what Mahomes is, he's a historically great player, people's like, well, Mahomes not playing

well, and when you say that, people think that you're trying to take away from what he's already done. No, he's done that. I'm talking about right now. Nobody can end their even if you're the most ardent, diehardest of Chiefs fans, thinks

Mahomes is playing well. He's not. That doesn't mean, and because he's not playing well, that doesn't mean, do you believe he can turn it around? Yes. But let's deal with what we need to deal with. Look how many interceptions he had as opposed to touchdowns. Yeah.

It's damn near like every game you pencil in, Mahomes going to turn the ball over at least once. At least once. Mm-hmm. He's not playing well. He has not played well this year. He's had moments in which he's played well,

but the totality, Mahomes used to play clean for the entirety of the game. He would go stretches where he'd have five, six, seven, eight games, and he would be virtually impeccable. Now you hope you can get five or six possessions in which he's impeccable but he's not playing well uh uh the defense gave up 30 like i said think about it and see this is what normally happens you know it's going to be a

situation oh joe somebody is going to put points on your defense. This is where Mahomes needed to have that game to go get 31, to go get 34. So that's the question that you're going to have to ask yourself, Chiefs fans, follow the NFL. If somebody can have a day

in which they get up on the Chiefs and have a better-than-normal day against that defense, and Patrick Mahomes and this offense out-duel an opposing team's offense. It used to be a no-doubter. It used to be, unless you scored 28 or 30 points, you couldn't beat the Chiefs. Right. Well, honestly, if you think about it,

and when it comes to the regular season, now the Bills are 4-1 against the Chiefs. Yeah. But where it counts, when we talk about that dueling situation where it matters most, and Rush Mahomes coming in and playing his best football in opportune times has been in the postseason, where they

are 3-0 against the Bills. So, again, in the regular season, for some reason, the Bills have always had success when it comes to playing the Chiefs. But when it mattered most, when it mattered most in the postseason, Patrick Mahomes has always come on top in those dual games like that. But, again, not to take anything away from the Bills and what they did today. Hell, I even had the Bills winning. I said it.

Yeah, I think everybody should have. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that people are like, well, Mahomes, Mahomes, but we've never seen Mahomes play stretches like this. That's the difference. Yeah, we know what he is. We know what he's done. Right.

But we haven't seen him play like this. We haven't. He had Worthy wide open and he throws and leaves him out of bounds he leaves him up the field it's a touchdown it's plays like that that he used to never miss and now more more it's more routine to see him miss those throws than make those throws right which is very uncommon it's something that we're not used to seeing the bills mounted five scoring drafts of at least eight plays and 60 yards for those plays ended on a touchdown and one ended the field goal.

So five of the six drives of at least eight plays and 60 yards ended in scores or TDs one field goal. Josh Allen was 27 of 40, 262, one touchdown, one INT. They ran the ball 31 times for 104 yards. James Cook had two touchdowns, and it was Josh Allen that sealed it late on the fourth down, 26-yard run. Patrick Mahomes, I mean, look at it, 23 of 33 for 198.

Does Patrick Mahomes have a 300-yard game this year? He might have one. Yeah, maybe one. But again, you know what else that comes into? What is that? It makes it that much more difficult coming off a Super Bowl champion. I mean, coming off a Super Bowl win, everybody targeting you. Everyone has studied you.

All your tendencies. Everything you like to do. They studied your offense. They studied your quarterback. So it makes it that much more difficult for Patrick Holmes and that offense. The people have game planned and prepared to play you. So I think things are a little bit more difficult for them. And that's on Andy

Reed to continue to do what he does and being as creative as possible to the team that you're playing off because they're a little bit better prepared. Yeah. But give Buffalo credit. Buffalo is playing extremely well. Josh is playing.

He's running. Hey, you look. He's 6'5", 6'6", 250, 255, and he can run. And he's a low. And once he opens up, man, who's trying to tackle him? DBs ain't trying to tackle that man. Uh-uh. So, man, please.

But he's playing well. He throw the ball about, I mean, he's had, what, consecutive games, three consecutive games, if I'm not mistaken,

turning the ball over, but he didn't turn it over when they was in the red zone because a lot of times they was getting in trouble. He was throwing picks in the end zone. He was funneling the ball

in the red zone and he was taking potential points off the board, even though any drive could have ended in points, you know, but when you throw the ball in the end zone and it gets turned over, you know,

you're already in field goal range. But... Dang. If I told you the quarterback has thrown in 11 games and 10 games have thrown for 2,400 yards, he has 15 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.

What would you say, Ocho? They're probably losing. Thank you. They're probably losing. If you don't put the name and you just say the stats in general, they're losing team. Whoever it is is playing very bad. Yep.

Very bad. And so... The fact that it looks like that on and they're only and they're still nine and one that says a lot

about the player in general also as well. He's only had two games this season in which he has not thrown an interception.

Yeah. Okay. Two games. How many 300 yard games has he had? He had one against the Saints. Yeah. Okay. Two games. How many 300-yard games has he had? He had one against the Saints. Yeah, okay. Dang.

Came close against the Ravens. He had 291. Then against the Bengals, he had 151. 217 against the Falcons, 245. 331 against the Saints. He had 154 against the 49ers. 262, 291, 266, 196. His completion percentage is off the chain, but we understand why.

Because they run a lot of smokescreen, they run a lot of screenplay, a lot of shallows, a lot of spots. So it's not like before where he was pushing the ball down the field. Do we understand? The offense changed substantially once they lost Tyreek. They found a new way to get the ball down the field. They're not as explosive as they once were. Right.

As long as you win, you win. But you make it very, very difficult when you turn the ball over. And even as great as your defense is, you keep turning it over, eventually they're going to crack. Yeah, most definitely. They're going to crack. But give Buffalo definitely. They're going to crack. But give Buffalo credit. Let's not take anything away from them.

They played really, really well today. They got some big-time plays. Had a couple of big catches. Shakira came up. Samuel played really well. Came up with some key third downs. But the Bills win and move within a half game of Kansas City

for the number one seat in the AFC. The Bills fans hang on Kermit the Frog puppet, and if I'm not mistaken, Ocho, they had a 15 on his jersey. Ocho, what do you think about this? I mean, listen, it's an ongoing thing with them making fun of Mahone's voice because of his voice, because of how he talks and comparing him

to Kermit. I think it's been ongoing. I think Mahomes has addressed it. I don't think it doesn't really bother him, but I understand the whole thing. They've won, but again, those Bills fans might want to be cautious. This isn't just a regular season because when it matters most,

where goddamn Pat Mahomes is 3-0 against the Bills, the Bills and their fans, It's just the regular season because when it matters most, we're got them. Pat Holmes is three and over against, you know, the bills, the bills and their fans. We're going to see. He's going to remember that. He's going to remember that. So, you know, kudos to the bills. I mean, kudos to their fans. I had the bills winning, winning this game. And Josh Allen, man, young man, young boy is the real deal, man. He's a real deal. He did have a turnover, and he has been turnover prone in the past, and I think that's been his Achilles heel.

But this year, he's been protecting the ball for the most part extremely well this season. And I think they're going to go far. They're going to go really, really, really far this year. You like Buffalo better this year than in previous years?

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. The fact that not only is Josh Allen playing well, he's not a turnover machine as he once was. He's not relying on his arm strength to squeeze ball in places where he shouldn't be trying to throw it. Yeah. So he's improved on that.

And for the fact that he's not a turnover machine right now, I had the Bills going much further as opposed to they have in previous years. Lamar can't get it done. He can't beat the Steelers again, Ocho. The Lamar Jackson Steelers, Russ, the Steelers beat Baltimore 18-16. It's just been difficult for the Ravens to overtake the Steelers when Lamar continues to struggle against them. Now, you know, the fans gonna

come out there and say, well, he ain't got no receivers and he ain't got this. They're gonna blame Todd Munkin for the call because it ain't... Lamar played bad. And he's played bad more routinely than not when he's faced the Steelers. I have a question, huh? Yes. Talk about the Ravens-Steelers game. Yes.

Answer this for me. Yes. How many times did Derrick Henry carry the ball today? Derrick Henry had 13 carries. They ran the ball 19 times for 124. Lamar Jackson threw the ball 33 times for 207 yards. Now, we go back and look, Cleveland. What was the ratio? But y'all don't want to be at y'all.

But see, when we try to tell you your recipe to make a great dish that everybody in Baltimore and Maryland and surrounding counties is going to love, we hate you. But y'all keep doing it this way. But anyway, let me finish this, Ocho. The reigning MVP is now 1-4 against the Steelers after completing just 48%

of his passes, 16-33, which does not include a desperation toss on a failed two point conversion justin tucker missed two field goals he missed field goals from 47 and 50 yards in the first quarter which marked the first time since 2022 that he's failed to convert on back-to- back attempts tucker has now missed six field goals this season last season he only missed five tucker said the playing surface wasn't ideal. Tucker, how many years have you

kicked in Pittsburgh? Name a time this time of year that the Steelers playing surface is ideal. What we've seen from Tuck is that he's no longer automatic, Coach O. Kicks from

55 and in, they were money. He could kick on the moon. He could kick in Pittsburgh. He could kick in Denver. It did not matter. But now, that's no longer the case. Because now, if the game was closed and you put it on the foot of Tuck, Tuck was going to handle it.

What did they do first game? Who did the Ravens play? The 49ers over the night? No, the Ravens played the Kansas City. Give me y'all to start. Let's see the run ratio, the pass ratio.

How many games have the Ravens lost? Four now, right? They've lost four. Let's see the ratio run past. We know they lost when they passed the ball more against Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Let's see the other two losses. If the run ratio, what it was.

Probably the same. But we're going to find out because I want to speculate. Let's get this right because, you know, Ocho, they want us to be perfect. So let's make sure we're perfect. Somebody going to say you know, Ocho, they want us to be perfect. So let's make sure we're perfect because somebody's going to say, okay, Ocho, they did blah, blah, blah. So we're going to make sure we got it right. Let's see what the ratio is. Hey, you do know if

Tuck makes one of those field goals, the Ravens win the game, right? Well, if that's to say, if Steelers catch one of those red zone possessions, you know they win the game, right? So if we're doing hypotheticals, one team kicks six field goals from those red zone possessions, you know they win the game, right? So, if we're doing hypotheticals, one team kicks six field goals from the red zone. Six field goals.

The Steelers win the game without scoring a touchdown. Yes. In real life. This ain't no video game. And they got damn defense, boy. They know they were playing some ball like that 32 of them was running plays and they had 72

so that means 74 so that means the other 40 was throwing okay so they threw it more against Kansas City then they ran it they lost they threw it more against the Steelers then they ran it and they lost they threw it more against

Cleveland and they lost what did they it more against Cleveland and they lost. What did they do against the Raiders? They lost against the Raiders also. I just don't understand how you think 13 carries is enough for Derrick Henry. It's not that complicated. Now look, I understand early in the game, it changed the momentum of the game.

When Henry fumbled, it looked like they were going in to get points then and it kind of changed things around. But give it back to him. Every game in which they lost, they've thrown the ball more than they've won when they, excuse me, then they've run it when they run it more than they throw it.

Guess what happens? Oh, Joe, they win. They win. They win every time. Listen, we've talked,

we've talked about the recipe for the Ravens for a very long time you know understanding what what it takes for them to win games obviously when that when they do give the

when they give Derrick Henry the ball I say more than 20 I say more than 20 times a game they always come out and win it in in every one I just I just don't

I just don't get it I just I don't I don't ocho i don't i don't understand why you have derrick henry and you leave and you leave a game and derrick henry only has 13 carries and you feel good about that the same thing i mean he has 16 carries he has 16 carries if i'm if i'm not mistaken ocho against cleveland i can't go back off the top of my head. It was 16. The number was 16 against the Browns.

It was 16. But also, playing against the Steelers, you know what I think it also does? For Todd Munkin, I think it scares them away from calling the run plays when the Steelers' defense is playing that goddamn way. But I thought you told me you don't let somebody dictate your play. Yeah. I thought you told me you don't let somebody dictate your play. Yeah. That's what you tell me. You don't let nobody dictate calling the plays.

Yeah, you don't. You don't. You're not supposed to. You're not supposed to. But again, when things aren't working, when things aren't working and it's not going good, you tend to stray away from it when another team is not allowing you to do what you want to do. Ocho, we saw this against the Bengals.

You remember? And all the time they give the ball to Derrick Henry, what do you do? He ran them to a victory. Look, this ain't college where guys average 10 yards a clip every time they touch the ball. Yes, it's a lot of two yards, one yard, five

yards, but you wear down the defense and plus play action. You know, just ask Lamar just to drop back and throw the ball. That's not what he is. Can he throw the ball? Has he got exponentially better? Yes. But you need to play action off of that because the Steelers are very good.

They got a nice scheme. And think about it. Russ threw an interception in the end zone, don't you? Yeah. They would have gotten more points. Yeah. That should have been a touchdown. He just had to bring it down a little bit.

I say, come on. I just don't get it. Why the Ravens are so hell bent trying to prove that we can throw our way to a victory. At the end of the day, if you're holding the Lombardi, why do you care how you got it? If you had to run back three plus to win the game

or had to block two field goals, who cares? But this is not your recipe for winning. Right. Dang. Hey, but it was a good game, though. I can tell you that. Yeah, it was good. I mean, look, it's a robbery game. It's going to be highly contested.

It's going to be close. Yes, yes. They turned the ball over three times. I mean, you go on the road, you turn the ball over three times, you're gonna be close yes yes they turned the ball over three times you know i mean you go on the road you turn the ball over three times you probably you probably shouldn't have been in the game and to begin with yeah you probably shouldn't have to be in the game and based on on what we've seen from the defense they normally uh they gave up 18 points and they kept them out of the end zone right you knows teams have been having their way with the Ravens in the secondary, Ocho.

So give the Ravens credit for standing on their head and keeping them out of the end zone. But this was a very winnable game. This was a very winnable game for the Ravens. And they've got to find ways to win games like this.

But I tell you what happened they play it like this Jared Goff just sprung board right back into the MVP conversation I don't know if you saw his game today did anybody see his game today? that was disrespectful he just sprung board his way right

back into the MVP conversation you know who also is in there I don't want to leave Josh Allen I don't want to leave Josh Allen out of that but you know what's going to happen Lamar Jackson has an off game he has a game where he doesn't play well today but what's going to happen

he's going to come back next week and he's going to put himself right back in the front runner for that goddamn I'm just saying that Jared Goff got his way back into it because he... Think about it, Ocho. He threw five picks and they still found a way to win the game.

Right, last week. Because in that final drive when they needed to get in position, what did he do? He made every throw. Mm-hmm. Now, it's much worse you throw five interceptions, then you lose the game. But he ended up having the game when he drive.

So, people go like, okay, yeah, he played bad, but when they needed to have something, he went and got it for them. I still believe Lamar's in the front. I mean, what? He had a touchdown and an interception, so now he has 25. He's 25-3? That's still pretty damn good stats, O has 25. He's 25-3. That's still pretty damn

good stats, Ojo. And they're 7-4. They're 7-4. Now, golf does have great numbers and they've only lost one game. Can I ask you? I don't mean to do this, but

if the Bangs were winning, Joe Burrow would also be in the MVP discussion. For sure. Absolutely. The numbers would dictate. They have to be. Right. I just want to throw that out there.

I just want to throw that out there. But y'all not. We dealing with people that are winning. So don't bring that up again. Wendy. Wendy. Come on, Chad. Say it with me.

Wendy. Wendy. Wendy going to win our game. Wendy. they, when they gonna win a game? When they, when they, when they gonna win a game? When they, when they, when they gonna win a game? That's not necessary. You ain't got to do that. Oh, my bad.

I'm already, I'm already in my feelings about my Bengals, man. And I was hoping we could pull it off today and just, it's like if it ain't one thing, it's another. If it ain't one thing, it's another, man. God damn. Yeah, it is. I don't know. Guys, I don't know if y'all know this, but I used to vote.

For a decade, I voted for all the awards, all pro defense and offensive player of the year. And I'm just telling you how it got. I know there's 50 men and women. I'm just telling you how they think. Y'all can 50 men and women. I'm just telling you how they think. Y'all can say all that hate is y'all want to, but I'm telling you, Jerry golf won a game in which you threw five picks

because he had the game winning drive. And he followed it up today. Did y'all see them drop a 52 piece? Oh, Joe, did you realize they went touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, kneel down. Let me say that again. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, kneel down.

And I don't know if y'all know it. Y'all make it seem like that man got like five touchdowns and seven touchdowns and five picks. Go check his stats out. And they're winning. They're the number one seed in the NFC. Yeah. The same thing. Lamar didn't have the

greatest numbers last year. He was 24-8. He was the number one seed. Jared Goff is going to have outstanding numbers and it looks like they're. With the number one seed. Jared golf is going to have outstanding numbers and it looks like they're heading for the number one seed. Yeah. Man. Three turnovers,

two missed field goals. And it seems like the Ravens played their worst football when they played the F and Steelers. Every time. Listen, you know, again, the game is not as physical as it once was when we were playing on, so I can't really say it was

a two-tenths-draft game. You got to bring your head two-tenths-drafts and buckle that motherfucker up, because obviously the turnover with Derrick Henry was somebody coming from the side. It wasn't a hit. You know, like, oh my goodness,rick Henry was somebody coming from the side. It wasn't, you know, a hit. You know, like, oh, my goodness, he hit him so hard he fumbled. But it was, I'm not going to say luck.

Just he had the ball, and at the wrong opportune time, it came out. You know, that's it. And, obviously, two turnovers. The other two turnovers, eh. You take Justin Tucker, it's a game of inches Justin Tucker makes one of those field goals it makes a difference in the ball game I know it's hypothetical

but it makes a difference in the ball game that's why when he was automatic if he was automatic like he once was in the past it makes a difference in the game when the offense is sputtering when the offense isn't playing well but you know what type of game it's going to be.

These games are normally low scoring, Ocho. Even if you score a touchdown, it ain't like these games have been 35-34, 41-38. That's not the type of game. These teams are built on defense. They're bullies. Although Lamar, obviously, the Ravens have an MVP and an Offensive Player of the Year, and

Derrick Henry in the backfield. So, they're a lot more explosive than they have been in the years past. Flowers and Bateman and Aguilar and Likely and Andrews, they got the A. Look, they got an offensive. There's no excuses for the Ravens this year

offensively. There's none, Ocho. There's none. They got Hill. They got Henry. They got two outstanding tight ends. They got good receivers. I love Zay Flowers, Bateman, Aguilar, Wallace. They've got

some really talented and good players. The thing that concerned me was their defense because I'm still a little shaky on their secondary, Ocho. I am. I am. But I got to give them credit today. They kept George Pickens under control.

He had 12 targets, 8 catches. Washington had 2 catches. Harris had 4. They kept him really under control, running the football, 34 carries, but 122? Yeah. I mean, and the Steelers had, what, 72 plays?

They ran 72 plays to the Ravens, 52? 55? How many total plays did the Ravens have? I mean, it says Lamar threw 30 balls 33 times. They had 19 rush attempts, but you probably have a couple of plays throw away penalties. Yeah. So that's 52.

So they have 52 to 70, 52 70 it's a 70 so the uh steelers read 18 more plays 54 74 so they still read 20 more okay uh are the ravens their biggest detriment this is what lamar said absolutely it's been that way ever since last year i believe going back to the AFC championship game we killed ourselves the Chiefs game in the over we killed ourselves Raider game we killed ourselves today same thing we can't keep beating ourselves in these

type of games it's just annoying what you think Ocho yeah I mean there ain't no consolation Ocho be honest with yourself so let me ask you a question Ocho? Yeah. I mean, there ain't no consolation, Ocho. He'd be honest with himself. So let me ask you a question. Did this loss go into the...

Who got the win? Was it the Steelers or yourself? The Steelers got the win. Okay. So you keep saying you beat yourself. At the end of the day, the same thing. It is the same result. You lost. So guess what happens to come playoff time if you beat yourself? You're going home. Because this is not basketball this is not baseball that's what we love about football so much oh joe you get one shot that's it one shot yeah and some a lot of times the best team doesn't

always win it's the team that plays the best that day hey yeah that's why we love football because we're gonna probably get that Because we're going to probably get that upset. You're probably not going to get the upset that you would normally get in a series because the better team over a seven-game series, the better team would normally win. But in one game,

anything can happen. They got to find a way to fix these miscues. They got to find a way to tighten this thing up. They got to find a way to fix these miscues. They got to find a way to tighten this thing up. They got to go into the play. Listen, I don't care what anybody says. Derrick Henry needs to get the ball more than 13 damn times. Yeah.

Period. More than 13, more than 11. I don't care if Lamar Jackson is going perfect. And we've seen him go perfect. He had a perfect game. What was he, like 17 or 18? But look how many carries they give Derrick. Y'all got to give him the ball.

That's why you brought him in. Yeah. He's not a fancy accessory. He's a necessity, not an accessory. Y'all need to treat him as such. Right.

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Jets continue to be terrible. The Colts go on the road and they win. Aaron Rodgers' worst winning percentage than Zach Wilson and Sam Darnold in a Jets uniform. Winning percentage as starting quarterbacks for the Jets. Zach Wilson, 364. Sam Darnold, 342.

Aaron Rodgers, 273. The Jets fired Robert Solomon when the team was 2-3. One game. One game out of first place in the AFCs. The team three losses at the time 49ers 5-5

Broncos 6-5, Vikings 8-2 Denver, Minnesota were one score losses with the Jets offense failing to score on their final possession since they fired Robert Sala the New York Jets are 1-5 So who are they going to point the blame at now? I'm just curious since they fired Robert Sala, the New York Jets are 1-5. So who are they going to point the blame at now? I'm just curious.

The media. The media. When Aaron Rodgers talks, who is he going to blame now? The media. He can't blame Mike Williams, but the media. It's the stench in the building because they've been losing so long

and these guys don't understand what it takes to win. He ain't going to play. He ain't going to put it on himself now. Oh, you thought he was going to say him? I would hope so. I would think at some point, understanding that you are the leader of that team, that at some point you take accountability.

You take accountability for the fact that maybe I'm not playing well. Maybe I'm not playing as good as I should be to give us a chance to win. In those moments when it counts most, am I making the throws? Am I making the plays to give my team the best chance to win? You know what? Right now, I'm not playing well. Not once.

Not once have we heard that at all. M-E-S-S mess, mess, mess. That's what they need to be shouting. I will go to there with five Marshalls is on one side, I will be on the other side. Yeah. M-E-S-S mess, mess, mess. I'm just, I didn't run out of people now look

you blame Robert Sala you blame what's the what's the coordinator Hackett Nathaniel Hackett you blame Mike Williams I wanna know who that's

yeah I'm just waiting on I'm just waiting on the roll call who next chat who next who get blamed hey Yeah. I'm just waiting on the roll call. Who next, Chad? Who next? Who get blamed? Hey.

Again, the funny thing about it is this has been an ongoing issue, whether Aaron Rodgers was there or not. Regardless of what quarterback was at the helm, regardless of what quarterback was there in that situation, the Jets have always had this problem for a very long time. For a very long time. They haven't had a winning season for a very long time but I thought, hold on what about that cayenne pepper in water

I thought that was a fountain of youth fountain of youth hold on, what about what do you say you got to embrace the darkness I thought we embracing darkness I thought we going to Oaxaca or Oatusa or whatever it is.

You know that stuff that has hallucinogenic properties in it. Right. It calls you to go out of your mind. Maybe you need to take another trip. I mean, hey, they got a game next week, but why don't you go on vacation? I mean, it ain't required. You know, games, you know, sometimes they're mandatory, sometimes they're voluntary. So maybe you take a, you know, take a voluntary trip, just go away.

Right. I mean, three and eight. What do you think the Jets record would be without it? If I'm three and eight winning, you don't think I'd go three and eight without it and save 50 million? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you're paying for what you think you're going to get.

You're paying for what you think you're going to get from the past and what he's done in the past based on his resume. That's what you're paying for. Yes. But see, that's what I love about sports, Ochoa. Because it's the one thing that you require you update your resume every single week. You got to. You got to. Oh, you got this great resume? Oh, it's unbelievable.

It's impeccable. Yeah. Janet Jackson said it best. She said, what have you done for me lately, though? But you know what? You know what's funny? You know, they always stand a certain position, grace, when it comes to what they've done in the past. Well, that's what they think. They always

extend a certain quota, a certain position. They extend them grace based on what they've done in the past. I believe, Ocho, this is how I believe. I believe that there's never been a player or a person that's been above reproach. I don't give you what you deserve. I give you what you earn. He's earned the criticism in which we're leveling against him. Everybody knows if you know me, if you follow

Shannon Sharp, for my time on Undisputed, I've been Aaron Rodgers' biggest supporter. Do I think he's arrogant? Yes. Do I think he's flippant? Yes. Do I think he's condescending? Yes. Do I think he's dismissive? Yes.

Do I think he blames others for his mistakes? Absolutely. But I say he's one of the greatest throw of the football that I've ever seen with my own two eyes. Yeah. And I believe, I believe I can fairly assess. Do I like how he's treated someone to blame others?

No, but that doesn't stop me from doing my job and how he's treated somebody to blame others? No. But that doesn't stop me from doing my job and saying he's a damn good, when he plays well, I have no problem saying Aaron Rodgers has played well for seven and a half years. But I know, but I've talked to people. I know people.

And we'll just leave it at that. Right. But hey, and you're right. A lot of time when someone is so great, you're willing to overlook their flaws.

Mm-hmm. That's a good one right there. And that's with anything. It's just not with sports. Mm-hmm. Somebody that's really good at something, you allow them to do

a lot of things that you wouldn't allow somebody else to do. But what I think, the thing that I love most about a person, about people that have power is they don't abuse it. John knew. John could

mispractice or he could not be at many camps or he could do something never right never yeah but see

when you blow it off see there's see there's a difference between being able to influence people and being able to lead people and being able to lead people.

Now, don't y'all let that go over y'all head. That's a good one. Let's move on. Let's go. Let's move on. Oh, Joe.

Cause I, we're going to stare. This was Richardson. First game back of the starter. It was a milestone afternoon for the second year quarterback. He threw for a career high, 272 yards and a passing touchdown and had his best completion percentage in a game where he attempted at least 20 passes.

Richardson also added 32 yards and two scores on 10 rushing attempts. Is his first game with multiple rushing touchdowns since week two of 2023 today was his first game with three combined touchdowns. If I'm not mistaken, I saw something that says Richardson is younger than Shadur Sanders. He's younger than Beck. He's younger than Cam Ward. He's younger than all

the quarterbacks that's playing that's going to come into the draft, Ocho. And he's two years in the NFL. That's crazy. Yeah, it is. It is. And on top of that I'm happy I meant to send it to you

because I was reading this thing Ocho Chador's in college Tam Ward is in college Beck is in college this guy's in second year in the league and he's younger than them

how does that happen he's younger than Bo. How does that happen? He's younger than Bo Nix. How does that happen? Don't start me to lie. You try to get me to lie. Okay, okay, okay. Listen, I'm not happy. He's younger than Shador Sanders, Carson Beck, Dylan Gabriel,

Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Bo Nix, and Michael Penix Jr. Okay, I'm confused. How does that happen? He's been in the NFL for two years. COVID, I guess. You know, COVID, you got three extra years.

So normally you have five to do four, and with COVID, you got eight to do five. Right. That's all I got for you, Ocho. I wish I could give you something else, Ocho, to hate so you can sink your teeth into. But that's all I got. you Ocho I wish I could give you something else Ocho to hate so you can sink your teeth into but that's all I got I really can't bite into that what you just told me

I can't bite into that how old is he like 21? he is 21 he just turned 22 but young young boy young man yes

young I'm glad he played I'm glad he played I'm glad he bounced back too I'm glad he bounced back too and you know what Ocho maybe that situation where he pulled himself

out of the game he learned he young he young I mean, lesson learned. Sometimes, Ocho, you just keep your mouth shut.

Yeah. You ain't got to share everything with everybody. Right. Right. He was a little too honest. A little too honest. He was a little too honest to a fault.

Sometimes, it is okay to misspeak the truth if it will save great harm or embarrassment. You know what else I need to do offensively? You already know he had a shoulder surgery.

He got to stop lowering that shoulder. Put up the bad shoulder. Give him the left shoulder. I need this one. Forget that part. These are design runs, Unc. Yeah. They put in harm's way with design runs. Yep.

Obviously trying to take the ball out of his hands and making sure he doesn't have any turnovers and make sure he protects the ball. They give him design runs. Protect your quarterback a little bit more. Protect him a little bit more, please. But, Ocho, if he gets 3% better with the weapons that he has

Pierce and Pittman Jr. and Oli Cox man Ocho yeah cause he got weapons Jonathan Taylor can run the football they got a solid offensive line it's not as dominant as it once was but they're still solid

they're still solid. Yeah, most definitely. They're still solid. But boy, if he just get incrementally better, going to the lab and says, I'm going to get better and throwing this damn football. Yeah.

Being able to touch, being finessed. Every ball, every ball doesn't have to be touched. With that, with that, with that, with that offense,

with that offensive wet skill that offense with that offensive skill the weapons that he has Hey he can be he can be he can be he can be special man

because you see you see what is he 6'4 255 he can run got great athleticism but at the end of the day

you got to be able to throw the football the best quarterbacks will probably be the least athletic. They're the least athletic players on the effing field. I mean, obviously, you take Vic and you take guys like Vic and Lamar. But on average, when you go back and look at all the quarterbacks that have played, the only position they could have played was quarterback. Let me ask you a question.

What position do you think Tom Brady was going to play other than quarterback? Peyton, Danny, Joe. What are they going to play? They didn't play anything but quarterback. Yeah. Hey, Vic could have been a running back, could have been a DB, same thing with Lamar, could have been a running back, could have been a wide receiver. could have been a DB, same thing with Lamar, could have been a running back, could have been a wide receiver.

Most of us played quarterback at some point in time. Played wide receiver, played running back, played D.P. I guarantee you, most of the quarterbacks, the only thing they ever played was quarterback. Detroit

was fired on all cylinders today. Oh, Joey, they demolished the Jags 52-6. Lions set a franchise record for margin of victory, plus 46. Total yards, 645. First downs, 38. Detroit scored touchdowns on each of its first seven offensive possessions. The Lions are only the third team in the past 45 years to do it. The two are the Patriots, the 2009

Patriots, and the 2007 Patriots, a team you might remember when every game they played that season until the Super Bowl. So, Jared Goff was 24 of 29.

412 yards. Four touchdowns, zero picks. They ran the ball 43 times for 196 yards. And they had 449 total passing yards. They took golf out. Herndon Hooker came in. He was three or four. Armond Roth, St. Brown, 11 catches, 161, two tubs. Jamison Williams, four for 124.

Touchdown. Jameer Gills, one catch, 54 yards. Kalief Raymond, two catches, 30 yards. So forth and so on. And a partridge in a pear tree. Hey, how you stop that, man? When they click it like that? When you're getting contributions from everywhere,

from your running game, from your passing game, you got two receivers going over 100, you can't find a way to stop Amon Raw, you can't find a way to stop James Williams, then you got to deal with the goddamn running game, you got to deal with Montgomery crazy ass, you got to deal with goddamn Sunk the Hedgehog to deal with Montgomery, crazy ass. You got to deal with goddamn Sunk the Hedgehog and Jameer Gibbs.

There's nothing you can do. And then defensively, defensively, you got damn Brian Branch, crazy ass, and the rest of that goddamn company out there. They plan extremely well. I mean, what do you do? What do you do? You hang up 52.

This is an NFL game. This is an NFL game. This is an NFL game against another NFL team. An NFL team that's supposed to be the best of the best. I know it's the Jags. I know it's the Jags. But still, these are the one percenters. These are the one percenters in the world where we are displaying our best players that we had to choose from in a draft, in free agency, or however they were acquired. They got 52 points hung up on them.

52. You got to force them to turn the ball over. If they don't turn it over, the likelihood of you keeping them out of the end zone. Ben Johnson is doing an unbelievable job. Didn't he get fired somewhere? Didn't somebody fire him? Where was he at? Was he at New Orleans? Where was

Ben Johnson at? Because this ain't his first job. I don't think it's his first OC job. Yeah. Mr. John, he went with the Colts at one point or am I tripping? I thought he was at the Saints. Or was it Carolina? He was with the Dolphins.

That's his only job. That's his only stop. That's his only stop? Where was he after that? Oh, okay. Wow. Where was he before? He was at the Dolphins, and he's been with the Lions ever since. But think about it, Coach O. The man

had five interceptions last week. He had five incompletions this week. You know, one thing my grandma always told me, say God has favor. Clearly. Because remember, Ocho, he had a game where he was 18-18, 19-19? Damn near perfect. I think that was it.

So what is Jerry Goff's stats now? I guess this thing, a lot of batteries. You put them up. Asher's getting Jerry Goff stats right now 20 and 9 and 2,500 yards well what you call him almost at 3,000 yards right now

Joe Burrow I thought Joe crossed 3,000 he got him because I think he was slightly above Lamar Joe Burrow. Who that? Joey. Joe Burrow. I thought Joe crossed 3,000. That's what I'm saying. He got it because I think he was slightly above Lamar. Right, right. And Lamar only had like 100 and something. Maybe 200.

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