Nightcap - Nightcap Hour 1: Jordan Love & Packers SPOIL Aaron Rodgers REVENGE GAME + Broncos HUMBLE the Cowboys + Unc CLOWNS Ocho’s BENGALS in COLLAPSE vs Jets + Saquon RUNS WILD on the Giants + ENOUGH of Dillion Gabriel

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Green Bay Packers beat Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers spoiling Aaron’s return, the Denver Broncos beat the Dallas ...Cowboys to improve to 6-2, and the New York Jets get their first win over the Cincinnati Bengals and much more! 05:40 - Packers Steelers17:30 - Broncos beat Cowboys28:30- Jets beat Bengals46:49 - Eagles beat Giants (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:07:33 That's SheaShay Media and my clothing company. 84 with 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. You know what? We ain't, we ain't even doing the one. Oh, Joe, Steelers turned the ball over in the second half once. Fumbled by Gamewell, Rogers was
Starting point is 00:07:49 sacked twice. The pressure was relentless all night. They flushed him out of the pocket. And Jordan Love had 360 passing yards as they take down, as they take down the, uh, the Steelers, 35, 25, 25. As you can see, 360 passing yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions, 94 rush yards. It was a complete team effort. You know, Brandon McManus missed two field goes that long with that 57, maybe just a tad out of his range, but there's no excuse for the other one.
Starting point is 00:08:18 He just, he shanked that thing really, really bad. Yeah. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from the Green Bay Packers tonight? Listen, the Packers looked good. Obviously, I thought the first half, I thought the Steelers were going to run away with the game. I honestly thought the Steelers were going to run away with the game the way it was a defensive game in the first half. The Packers, I don't know what the hell. Coach told him at halftime came out on goddamn fire.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Not only on defense, but hell, on goddamn offense too. They scored on the first five possessions in the second half. Now I'm not sure what happened to the Steelers defense, but you got people on that back end that you pay. really good money, top quality money, simply to be able to stop the goddamn pass. They got Tucker Kraft out there looking like he got damn... It was
Starting point is 00:09:05 National Tide End Day, the Ocho. It was National Tide End Day. Oh, is that what it was? That's what today was. Tucker Kraft showed out the night on National Tidens Day. He had one hell of a goddamn day. Jordan Love did what Jordan Love does, but again,
Starting point is 00:09:22 once they came out of halftime and the Steelers couldn't do anything, defensively to stop him, it was going to be a long night. Now, the first half, the first half is good. That was some good football on both sides of the ball from both teams. And, I mean, listen, the package came out at the half and still couldn't do nothing with him on offense. They couldn't stop them at all.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Yeah, Jordan Love, 29 and 37, 360, three touchdowns, no interceptions, no sacks, no turnovers. Josh Jacob had the only rush touchdown. As you mentioned, Ocho, Tucker Carson, 7 for 143, two touchdowns. He was sensational. Kristen Watson, his first game back, four for 85. Romeo Dobbs had three for 44. Malik Heath had three for 29.
Starting point is 00:10:04 They played really well. And I agree with you, Ocho. The Steelers got, you know, they got, you look at what they have defensively. They make the trade for J. Ram. They have Joey Porter, Jr., who's a second round draft pick, a lockdown guy. You look at Highsmith, and you look at Watt, and you look at Cam Hayward. Gary a slave. Yeah, but you can't let them go up and down to field like that.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You can't. Not in your building? You can't. And not with that kind of talent. We're not just talking about anybody. We talk about some of the greats that have played this game for a long time that bring your veteran presence where things that you want to do on defense, it should be much easier because of the level of skill and talent that they do have.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But it just didn't look like. It did just didn't look like that tonight. You did look like that tonight, huh? Which is, it didn't look like that. Come on, man. And it looked like that. I'm agreeing with you. It didn't look like that tonight
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Starting point is 00:11:22 Is this too much? Because I know the one thing about the chat. Let me see what the chat say. Because the chat going to be honest with me. The chat all went like, you're doing too much, you know, slow down. Hey, hey, stalling out. Don't do Ocho like that.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Chad, I know y'all going to be honest with me. So y'all can be honest, is this too much? Is the blazer the, the, uh, the, the, the, uh, the, the, the, own thing. And the T-shirt. Is that too much, chat? You feeling good tonight, huh? No, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I try to tell you about this. I told you that we're going to happen. You're feeling good tonight, huh? I told you, we're going to do something. I told you, I said, we're going to do something bad to the Cowboys. I say, and the Jets is going to get you off. I try to tell you that. But you ain't want to hear me.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I'll just go here and sit this down right here. Listen, you didn't know the Jess was going to do that today. I did. No, but nobody, no, nobody expected to just to win that game. I did. Nobody did. No, you didn't. No, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Because I'm sure. Put your finger down, man. Why he won't put his finger? He won't put his finger down, man. Come on, bro. It's all, it's all good. It's all good. I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I was surprised with how well green they moved the ball in the second half. Now, they have a lot of drive that they stalled themselves out in the first half. And then they missed two, They missed two field goals. Like I said, maybe the 57 yards were, 57 yarder was a tad outside of McManus's reign. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Excuse me, just a second. But that second half was a complete domination by the, by the Packers. They looked good. That front, they got after Michael Parsons, they were getting chipped. And I told you, I said the beneficiary of Michael Parsons coming over there is going to be
Starting point is 00:13:16 Rishon Gary. On Gary, yeah. Because you're going to have, look, and after he had. had that three sack performance last week. He had four, but they took it back because of a hit drop tackle. I knew that they were going to play extra close attention to Micah. And so now Rishon Garry is getting a lot of one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:13:33 So I already knew that the beneficiary of this trade was going to be Rishan Gary. And so now you got two guys screaming up there outside that can rush with power, that can rush with speed. They do a great job of getting off the ball, and they were relentless last tonight. Now, I don't think the secondary is that great, so they're going to have to get off the ball. They're going to have to apply pressure, Ocho, because they don't have shut down guys in the secondary.
Starting point is 00:14:00 They have, okay, they have decent guys, but as long as they can continue to generate the pressure that they're generating, they're going to be just fine. They're going to be just fine playing it the way they played. But I thought offensively, Jordan Love, man, if you didn't know Aaron Rogers actually played there, I mean, look at the throws that he's making off his back foot. Look at him he's throwing cross his body.
Starting point is 00:14:22 His mannerisms remind you, and I'm not saying he's going to be Aaron Rogers. I'm not going to say he's going to win for MVP, but I'm saying if you look at a lot of his mannerisms, you look at a lot of his arm slots, the way he throws the ball off his wrong foot, off his back foot. Quick, quick release. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 The side arm. Yep. He's really good. You can tell, you can tell he's obviously studied Aaron. Studied and watched, yes. Yeah, he studied and watch him. and some of the stuff he's doing, he wasn't doing it in college. It has to come to somewhere.
Starting point is 00:14:52 So obviously, this is why I say at times, sometimes it's good for quarterbacks when you're coming as a rookie, depending on who the starter is, to sit back, relax, take it all in, and learn from whoever it is that's sitting in front of you. And then when your time comes, then you look exactly how Jordan Love looks. Some of the best quarterbacks didn't start.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I mean, you look at, obviously, Brady didn't start. Patrick Mahomes didn't start. Josh Allen. I don't think Josh Allen started his first game. He did? We could look that up. I don't think he did. But once he got in, he didn't look back.
Starting point is 00:15:32 But I thought the Packer's going to look. That's the Packer, that's a tough division. Well, I think it's a two-team division. The quarterback played, the quarterback play in Minnesota and in Chicago is not as nearly, is not as consistent as it needs to be. be able to keep up with those other two teams, Detroit and Green Bay. I think Green Bay and Detroit obviously are the class of that division. I just don't think Carson Wins and Caleb Williams give you consistent play
Starting point is 00:15:59 week in and week out, down in and down out to really challenge these teams. I look, it's an intra-division, so anything can happen. We know anything can happen within a division, but me, I just don't think the quarterback play is nearly consistent enough, but I was very impressed with the Packers going on the road, knowing how much this game meant to Aaron Rogers. And normally when you play a team, Ocho, that you played there, your team, uh,
Starting point is 00:16:24 your team, uh, comes back and, you know, they can pick you up. They want to, they want to make sure you win that game. Oh, oh, I ain't even know I had this t-shirt on up in here, Ocho. Is that too much? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me take my jacket off. Oh, hey, you had it now. Yeah, it's hot now. Here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Hold on. Look at my look. Hey. Y'all see the inside? Y'all like the inside? What did I say? What the men? Broncos, them loggos? All the Bronco logos, all the logos. This was the first logo they had like in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah. This was, I think this was like 608. This was the first one. This was the second one. The third one. This is the fourth one. Okay. And you know, a little something that the Broncos,
Starting point is 00:17:07 this is what they give the Ring of Fame, honorees. All three, all four of the logos, orange jacket. Y'all get one of these, oh, Joe? Huh? Yeah, I got. I got one.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah, and listen, you got the Bronco logos. Mine got, you know, all the stripes, all the tiger stripes. I ain't see that jacket. I ain't see you with no jacket on when you went in the ring of fame two years ago. Yeah, we had that. All we got all got the same jackets. I ain't see it. I just said I didn't see it, don't you?
Starting point is 00:17:35 I got anything else over there. I'm aware. I'm aware. Take it. I think I got one in there. Take it out. See. Now, you ain't got to show us no more stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:46 We know, we know y'all. I got a few things. We know, we know y'all won today. We know. No, Joe. See? See my bowling bag? What's that? Bowling bag. You don't even bowl.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Now to, now I don't bowl. Let me see. Hold on. Hey, told you, I got to keep my shoes in here. I better never catch you in the alley. That's what I'm saying. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, hey, listen, I bowed two-way to a better.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Who shoes them is? Damn, my bowling bag, so one would assume made my shoes. Hey, them shoes brand new still. You don't bowl, man. Don't do that. Don't do that, don't do that. Listen, one thing about it, you're not a bowler. You might be a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:18:42 How are you going to bowl and your hips don't work? They work you're fine. Hey, you have to say it, they work fine. And you know when you bowl, you got to get low. They show them. They know, they know. What's that? That's an eight-pound ball?
Starting point is 00:19:02 Ah, I make a look like that, don't it? I got a couple of more in there. Y! Hey. Waterway William, Jr. Hey, you know you can't bowl. You walk around with eight-pound balls. Boy, these ain't no eight-pound balls.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I'm looking at it. Huh? Now, you ain't no bowler, man. What's your-O-Chuh? Come on, Ocho. That ain't like you, man. Hey, talk to me. I'm not trying to be no head.
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Starting point is 00:24:43 But let's get to the game today. The Broncos beat the Dallas Cowboys by the score of 44 to 24. Cowboys defense reverted back to their old form, giving up his longest run of the year, a 40-yard touchdown run by number one overall draft pick, B.J. Harvey, first-round draft pick, not number one, first-round draft pick, and Bo Nicks, Bo Tubs. Dak Prescott threw two interceptions.
Starting point is 00:25:06 The number one offense was held in check. The Cowboys have lost eight straight. to the Denver Broncos, tying the longest streak to a single opponent in franchise history. I tried to tell Ocho, and Ocho, man, y'all ain't beat us since 95. We're going to beat, they'll beat you on this time. Who was us?
Starting point is 00:25:23 Who was us? I'm not, listen, I'm not a part of the Cowboys. I just felt with them being the number one offense, George Pick and Doody doing C.D. Lambs back. You know, Williams running the way he's running the ball. I felt they had a good chance to win the game today. Now, obviously, I was wrong. That's a good thing about sports.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Sometimes you're wrong. Sometimes you're right. In this case, which is very seldom for me is I was wrong. And listen, I apologize, you know, for those Broncos fans that in the chat, congratulations. Y'all won today. You said they, but what's the like, how many times if they play the defense like the Broncos,
Starting point is 00:26:01 where they got them guys on the edge, especially Sartan, think about it. We beat them. Sartan went out. Tray-Bree-Law didn't even play. Yeah, he heard his shoulder. Yeah, he showed it. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:26:16 Because you know when he was in that it was getting Nathan. They wouldn't get anything. Y'all, y'all played a good game. Bo Nix, Bo Nix balled out. Damn. Hey, Cortland Sutt had some really, really key catches, some really key catches. And it got to a point where the game just got out of reach. It got out of reach.
Starting point is 00:26:35 It was out of reach when y'all walked into the stadium. That was out of reach. How many times did y'all stop us? Hold on, let me go look at this thing. I want to see, uh, uh, how many times did y'all actually stop us? Matter of fact, I'm, I'm going to talk. Broncos, okay, they, they threw an interception, so y'all stopping them on the first run. And then it went touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown, end of half, field goal,
Starting point is 00:26:58 touchdown, touchdown, punt, end of the game. Damn. If the Broncos turned it over, the first position, and then with touchdown, touch, I mean, Damn. Hey, hold on, let me... Went through him like Sherman, went through Atlanta. Scorce. Hey, y'all play good, though, huh?
Starting point is 00:27:21 I'm not even gonna lie. Man, it's hard for me to argue. We are good. You're talking about we played good. We got a good team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all got a good defense. Y'all got a good defense.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And the offense, it goes as Boonex goes. If Bo Nix well, offensively, y'all going to be all right. And Bo Nix had him a day to day. Bo Nix had him a day-to-day, and the defense obviously showed up. Pat went out, I think he heard, probably, probably looked like it, maybe a pinch nerve or something. Mm-hmm. A pinch nerve, other than that, I think he's going to be right.
Starting point is 00:27:49 But them, them, them, too, the boys on the edge, boy. Oh, yeah, Cooper and Bonito, Allen. Hey, man, listen. Hey, but them joke is nice, boy. Oh, yeah. Hey, we get after you now. Uh, Bo Nix was 19 to 29, 2,4. 47, four touchdowns, one interception.
Starting point is 00:28:10 J.K. Dobbins had 15 rushes, 111 yards. R.J. had, I say, BJ, R.J. Harvey had 7 for 46. He had two touchdowns. And then Franklin, 6 for 89, two touchdowns. Cortland Sutton, 4 for 67. Pat Bryant, 2 for 40, one touchdown.
Starting point is 00:28:28 RJ Harvey had one catch for 5 yards of a touchdown. Whoa, they got eight. Let me see what that numbered was. What we do is that if you got, is that if you got hopes of winning an MVP or winning some type of war, you come to mind how you're going to leave without it. 19 to 31, 188, two interceptions.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Remember the last three, that last three games, he had thrown three touchdowns and no interceptions. We got tired of hearing that. I'm tired of hearing it. Y'all can talk. Y'all won the game.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Obviously, we understand how good different defense is. Did you understand that? Because why would you pick them? Clearly, you didn't understand that. Hold on. Why did I pick the Cowboys to win? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Because the offense has been on fire the past three weeks straight. They ain't paid nobody. Hold on. So you're saying the Broncos or somebody? Is the Broncos the team that teams are opposed to fear? Are you saying that their defense is like the 2,000 ravens? No, absolutely. No, they went to Philly, was down 18 to 3 and win the ball game.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Remember last week? Hold on. 33 points in the football. for a quarter. And what's the key words that I just said? As Bo Nix goes, that is how the Broncos will go. Now, when we talk about that team, that's how the team go. Huh? That's normal how the team go. Okay. The quarterback. Okay. What about your team? We ain't talking about your team just yet. Uh, Dak Prescott through two interceptions, the number one offense. Hold on. Let me see how many yards the number one offense that you, you've been hyphen
Starting point is 00:29:59 about. Oh, they've been playing good. Let me see what the numbers are. I'm trying to, that's what I was looking for. I was sitting there trying to find the goddamn stats. You wouldn't try to find those things. You ain't looking hard enough because they're up there. No. Cowboys 188. They ain't even have 300 yards of offense. Average in four something.
Starting point is 00:30:19 How many points the game? And they got a little cheap touchdown at the end. Yeah, but this is what you have to understand. This is we have to understand. Listen, even a squirrel get a nut, every blue moon, every so often. They're the number one offense for a reason. Sometimes, listen, this was a trap game. This is the trap game.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Woo! Us? You know what? you know what we're going to let we're going to let the broncos had this one to build their confidence up a little bit make them feel like they're really doing something and the next week what's going to happen it's going to be right back to the old oh man well this is what happened and this is why we didn't win we don't do that we don't do what we do what we don't do is play down the competition the standard is the standard we're the Denver Broncos
Starting point is 00:30:59 three-time Super Bowl champs that's who in what we are oh okay so the standard is the standard right? Standard is the standard. Okay, okay. Just a whole matter of fact, let me write that down. The standard is the standard. I want to make sure,
Starting point is 00:31:11 I want to make sure when we come back next Sunday, I want to make sure the standard to steal the standard after that game. It will be. Man, my kids and took my pen and paper, man. Got it, don't worry about it. And I can't believe you. You asked me, Ocho, now this, chat,
Starting point is 00:31:30 where was the last time y'all know Ocho to go on Sunday without tweeting? I ain't tweet today. Oh, because my internet wasn't working. I bet it wasn't. Yeah, my internet won't. Ocho not tweeting is like cornflict without the milk. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:47 Some page, just go together. Sunday, Ocho tweet. But this is the point. You have to understand. I said it, I tweeted it out. Obviously, I was using my neighbor's Wi-Fi. I'm using my neighbor's Wi-Fi right now. That's why I was able to come on Nycap.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I tweeted you back and said, I wasn't going to be able to come on the show tonight because my Wi-Fi was down. The fiber oxygen system that they use all the wired over here. Somebody cut grass, they cut a line. So when they cut the line like boom, it mess up. How you cut grass? How you hide the line on top
Starting point is 00:32:17 of the ground? No, they went underneath. They went underneath. I don't know. What cut grass underneath? Who got a bunker that got grow grass under the ground? Hey, listen, I don't know what it was done? That sounds suspicious. Doesn't it sound suspicious to you, chat? Yeah, it sounds suspicious to me when I heard. It sounds suspicious to me.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I'm using my neighbor's Wi-Fi right now. So I might go in and out, but just though I did everything I can to make sure I make sure I make sure tonight. That's why I look. Hey, how my camera look? Because my camera ain't, my camera like kind of, kind of, it's good?
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah, it looks good. It's you. Okay, okay, okay. I mean, you put your, hey, I was three and oh this weekend. You were three and a little. Ravens won, Broncos one. Well, who was the 30s?
Starting point is 00:33:01 You lost? Savannah State 1, Savannah State 1 homecoming. Well, hold on. Who is the third? I mean, you, you. Broncos one, Ravens one. That's two. Savannah State one.
Starting point is 00:33:14 That's three. Bengals lost. Four and O. Oh, here you, come on that. Wait a minute. Hey, you, he and ha, ha, the Dolph is won today. What you're talking about? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:33:25 The Dolph is won today. I'm saying all the teams that I played for that Shannon Sharp played for one. The Guppies, you never played for the Guppies. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, it doesn't matter who I played for. It's where I'm from. That's my home team. That's all I knew.
Starting point is 00:33:42 That's what I grew up knowing until I got drafted. So therefore, I'm a doll fan first. Before I knew anything about, before I knew anything about the Cincinnati Bengals, I was a dolphin. Guppies. Since 1968, and we won today. Did you see what we did to Atlanta? Let's talk about.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I saw that. Okay. Okay. Let's put some respect. The fact, hold on. Chad, he hurt by that, chat. He hurt by that, chat. He hurt by that.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Oh, Joe. This is the only one I see right here. Hey, hey, put some respect on my quarterback, too. Hey, listen, we were doing all that, you know, that tongue lashing and saying that, you know, it was up and he needed to go when they need to fire Mike McDaniel and this, even I was a culprit. Even me, someone who's always been nice and trying to find an excuse for people, even I was critical. But after the day, two of the future, two of the future of the Miami Dawson franchise. Now, they can clean house everywhere else, but as long as Uno is there, we're going to be all right based on what I saw today. Now let's talk.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Bubble gum, bubble gum, pop, pop. Bubble gum, bubble gum, pop. My team, my team, on top. Your team, your team, a flop. Yay! Hey! Hey, you just made that up just now? That was the cheer we had,
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Starting point is 00:40:10 Who that? Who at? The Jets, beat the Bengals. 39, 38, down. They were down 38. Oh, they were down 3824. Five days after being publicly criticized by the owner Justin Fields
Starting point is 00:40:24 played his best game of the year, leading a team to a dramatic comeback for a first time win for new head coach Aaron Glenn. Field show decisiveness in the pocket. No sacks. 21 or 32, 244, and he did it without his starting wide receivers. Let that sink in, chat. His top receivers weren't there and they beat the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I've been trying to tell Ocho all along. It does not matter what you do because the one time that you don't score, your defense is ineffective. They can't stop somebody from school. And look what happened. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Listen, I'm with you when you're right. I was pissed off, huh? Why'd you rather be pissed off and pissed on? Listen, I ain't even want to show my face today. And people call them a phone. I ain't even answer my phone. Why you didn't do that? I mean, listen, I told them my internet wasn't working.
Starting point is 00:41:17 So, you know, when you're internet working, calls can't come through. Yeah, they can. Yeah, they can. Not on my phone, okay? So I'm sure everybody probably watching the show. They're probably questioning, oh, you could be on the show. But you can't answer the phone. Yeah, I said the same thing.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Listen, I lost me a little money on that game, too, now. Oh, you thought the Bing was going to win? Yeah, hey, we was up, what, 17? Wait, we was up, what, 17? 38 to 24. Man, listen, I thought we were going to win the game. I'm just, honestly, I got to a point where I say, you know what, it ain't even no need for me to watch this no more.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I stopped watching the game. I stopped watching the game because that's how much confidence I had in us. Offensively, I was like, you know what? Ain't no way in hell they're going to be able to come back because once we got up two scores, I felt comfortable. I felt real comfortable. Now, I know we might not be able to stop anybody, but when a team is playing ahead,
Starting point is 00:42:16 the defense should be able to pin their ears back and just go get the quarterback. Y'all ain't got nobody that can pick. First of all, y'all pit bulls. Y'all ain't got no ears. They clip. So how are you going to pin your ears back? they clip.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Listen, when a team scores 38, when a team scores 38 offensive points, you're supposed to win that game. But one of the problems that's always been our Achilles Hill as a team is our defense. Hell, if we score 40, the other team score 42. Hell, if we score 50, the other team score 58. And for some reason, I don't know what it is we need to do, but before the trade deadline, before the trade deadline, we need to get one centerpiece. We need get one centerpiece.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Now, I know we have Trey Hendrickson. I know we have Tray Hendon, but hell, he would have hurt today. Yeah. He would not hurt today. We need something. I don't know what it is. I'm not a GM. I'm not a scout.
Starting point is 00:43:07 But I do know the game of football. We need something. What that is? Hell, I don't know. That centerpiece, I'm going to get y'all a nice floral arrangement because that's the centerpiece that you're going to get, a floral arrangement. Y'all done. It's over for you.
Starting point is 00:43:22 It's over. And guess what? When December rolls around, you're going to be out of it. Joe Burrell next year. 2026 is your year. Let me ask you something. You do realize in the division,
Starting point is 00:43:34 we still second, right? You do realize we're still second in the division. Ain't nothing over. Now, this is just a small mishap. This is just a small hurdle. This is just a small obstacle that we're going to be able to overcome. See, the Bears going to pay for the bullshit
Starting point is 00:43:46 that happened tonight. You hear me? I'm going to tell you ahead of time. The Bears. Bears are going to beat you all. The Bears are going to pay for what happened. But who, what? Bear is going to be, y'all.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Watch Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams going to have a day. Let me, let me tell you something. The Bears are going to pay for the atrocity that we showed the day defensively. Oh, Cho. That man did this without his starting receivers. He didn't have Garrett Wilson, them guys. I know, but listen, it's still the NFL.
Starting point is 00:44:19 So next man up, those are still quality receivers because they're in the NFL. Oh, quality receivers. They might not be Gary Wilson. They might not be Gary Wilson. And Jason Taylor's son, he mossed your guy on $4,000. Take it off his head. That was a good catch. That was a good catch.
Starting point is 00:44:37 But again, like I said, listen, every so often the squirrel get enough, huh? Every so often, this is good for the Jets. I like it. You finally got a win. Now you guys are 1 in 7. You know, whoop do you do? Who did they get to win against? I mean.
Starting point is 00:44:51 You're not fit to get. If you, if you, if you, if you, if you ain't won no. games, your first win not coming against us. That's all I'm saying. That's how you feel? That's how I feel. You're not fit to get that hell of that over my head. And we won one game all year. Who y'all beat?
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah, I mean, it's all good. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. You should feel ashamed of yourself. I am. That's why I want to show my face, but I came anyway. I came anyway. And whatever, whatever, you know, is to come with that. You know, I'm a wet an egg on my face. face because I felt we was going to win.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Am I upset? Yes, I am. But right now, I'm trying to control my emotions. I'm trying not to curse. I'm trying not to cry. It's too early to cry. There's no reason for it because it's it's like, it's. Let me tell you all. Let me tell you your problem. Joe Flacko looking for one guy.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Let this sink in for a second. Let me tell you something. Listen to me. Listen to me. Jamar Chase had 19 targets. T. Higgins had two. Norfant had three. You're running had three targets, caught three balls. Tamer Hudson had two.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Samadji Piron had one and Andre I always say, Hayas Seba. Yeah, I just say Yoshi. I just say Yoshi. He had three targets. Oh, so you can't have that discrepancy. You can't have one guy, have 19 targets,
Starting point is 00:46:15 and the second best receiver that you're paying $30 billion to get two targets? Yeah, absolutely. And I think obviously, obviously, Joe being his third week there and understanding what Chase was able to do last week and the previous week before that, I think that's why the comfortability in saying, you know what,
Starting point is 00:46:34 when I know I got to get the ball at my hands, there's one person I feel that I can count on who is the best receiver in the league right now. That's Jamar Chase. So those balls, when it gets in my hand and I'm trying to get out fast, I'm going to Uno. But I think Joe Flackler needs to understand that goddamn T. Higgins is a reliable target as well.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yes. What you saw today on that deep ball. He is a reliable target as well and can move the chains the same way that goddamn chase can't. So in other words, you see what he did on the deep ball and then you give him one more target for the entirety of the game. So in the next three and a half quarters, you get that man one target.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah. Nobody had more than, hold on. Let me, it's not, my mathematics. Hey, matter of fact, matter of fact, hey, hey, how do you, I got to figure out to do this. man. I'm trying to figure out how one guy have more targets that the rest of the receivers combined. Combined? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you're asking how we took,
Starting point is 00:47:32 you do realize we talk about Jamar Chase, right? We talk about we talked about the Triple Crown winner from last year. Yes. So let's understand why he can have those kind of targets such a high volume because he is the best in the league. And when you need someone to go to as a new quarterback who's only been there for, hell, he's been there for 48 hours. He's been there for 48 hours. So I want this. offense to be able to move and work. It ain't going to move like this. With that kind of
Starting point is 00:47:57 disparity, it won't work. Yeah. Hey, it worked last week. Guess what? You said something very interesting. He won the triple crowd. Now, tell the people after his final game, what did he do? Was he geared up to playing the playoffs? Now, he said it himself.
Starting point is 00:48:13 He said, all the catches and yards and touched out, that's good. But I want to win a Super Bowl. But listen. This is not how you're going to do it. But he's doing his part. He's doing his part. He had nothing. There's a reason he, because of his greatness, which is why 19 targets are coming his way. The quarterback, I understand.
Starting point is 00:48:30 The veteran quarterback who's playing, who's been playing 20 something. You're going to lose. Okay, I got you. Give him 20 targets. You're going to lose. Anytime one guy, how many times do you see how many times you cup,
Starting point is 00:48:41 you've been about how many times have you seen one guy get more targets than the rest of the receivers combined? Most of that time, it happens once a year, every so often every so often every so often back to back weeks now that's different
Starting point is 00:49:00 three hold on so this man got 42 targets 42 targets in two games damn that's dope 42 that's crazy I mean Tiggins making $30 million dollars
Starting point is 00:49:16 he got two targets one catch 44 yards touchdown no offense three targets, three catches. Chase, three targets, three catches. Tanner Hudson, two targets. Samajip Rines, one target. Hey, so Chase had 19 catches.
Starting point is 00:49:34 He had 12 catches. 12 targets. He had 12 for 91. Damn. So he got 28 catches in the last two weeks. Hey. Hey, and, you know, got nothing to do with getting night having 19 targets you know what the problem is it ain't it ain't it
Starting point is 00:49:55 it ain't it ain't it ain't it ain't it ain't it ain't throwing chase the ball the problem is defense the problem is defense we put up 38 goddamn points 19 targets caught 12 of them and we scored 38 points and we lost the game it damn because of the offense and you see what happened when they started doubling chase he's and he tried to force feeding so you mean to tell so i guess t higgins can't beat one-on-one why you paying 30 million The hell he, yes, the hell he came. So why you throw him two targets then? If he's what you said he is, why would you give him two targets?
Starting point is 00:50:28 I'm just basing on what you say. You say he, that boy. He is that boy, get more than one talk, get more than two targets. Yeah, he's opposed to. But obviously the quarterback, the quarterback, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what he was doing. His decision making, obviously, Flacken are going to have games like this. Going to have games like this.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And this is that one game. Okay. Now we got a great understanding on how this offense needs to work. you need to be able to have balance you need to be able to have balance if they're going to double chase you got to understand that five can do that work
Starting point is 00:51:00 he can do that work as well and if Joe was in and Joe saw and understood the way the game is going having a feel for the game having a feel for that offense because I am the starting quarterback and I know my players okay boom they double chase
Starting point is 00:51:16 I'm a fee I'm a fee T why you why you Why are you throwing the ball, Ocho, and you average it eight yards of carry? Somaget P. Ryan, nine for 94. Chase Brown, 12 for 73. You running the ball like that. Why are you throwing the ball? Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I don't keep asking me, I'm not the officer coordinator. I'm not calling the plays. I don't understand. If anything, I'm glad we're running the ball because he's trying to put the score out of reach. Trying to put the score out of reach because you understand that the defense is somewhat a liability. Because guess what happens when you turn, when you are incompletions, you put your defense back on the field. Your guys running the ball. So, my J.P. Ryan, averageing 11 yards of carry.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Carrey, yeah. Chase Brown averaging six yards of carry. And you throw it? Yeah, it's tough, man. It's tough. It's tough. Now, Zach Taylor's in a bad position. He's in a bad position because he has to make those aggressive play calls purposely because he got to stand.
Starting point is 00:52:17 damn it I'm hoping we don't go through and out and have to put our defense back up there but I need to be aggressive and take chances because I understand our defense isn't as good as we'd like them to be and we ain't going to be able to stop nobody so I need to put this game out of reach and it score as many touchdowns as possible but they're stopping you on the ground Ocho
Starting point is 00:52:37 yeah you're right you're right about that listen I can see it I can see it I know I'm wearing shade but I ain't Stevie Wonder I can see it yeah they scored y'all had three rush touchdowns Ocho Yeah. Three. Listen, I'm with you. Listen, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:52:51 When you're right. I'm what you right. Listen, listen, Cincinnati, Bangal fans upset. I mean, they have, y'all gave a 500 yards. 500 yards. You know, that's the second time
Starting point is 00:53:04 the 25 years span that the goddamn Jesses have 500 yards of offense. That's just the second time and it just happened to be against us. The last time was 25 years ago that they had 500 years of offense. 500 yards, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And everything got to be against us, man. Y'all gave up 254 yards rushing. 254. Yeah, that ain't good. 7 and 15 on third down conversion, two or three on third, on fourth down conversion. Ocho, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Well, listen, I'm ashamed, huh? I'm telling you, I got egg on my face right now. I'm not on the field. There's not much I can do. There's not much I can do. You know, I have to live vicariously through those who are playing the game today and hope that the play callers make the right play calls. And my fellow just executed.
Starting point is 00:54:04 We executed until it got to the fourth quarter where I think maybe about nine minutes to go. Nine minutes to go on the fourth. And I'm like, what the hell is going? Boy, it's like, boy, it's like somebody had, ate a lemon or something. And it's like, it's like, you go fishing and you start the real left fish in, and they get closer and closer. And as, as, as the jets started to get closer, you know what happened to the coaches on the other side. They got lemons in their mouth.
Starting point is 00:54:33 They got, got, yeah. Let's take a listen to all the motion of Justin Fields after the game. yesterday i'm praying i'm praying like crazy just just for a win just for a win and um you know this this i'm gonna get pretty boner right right here but um uh this uh this week i kind of you know i found myself in my closet crying um on the ground laying down um not because of not because of the hardships not because of the troubles um i um i I felt like, you know, I was built to handle that and I was put in place to handle this situation. But in that moment when I was talking to my best friend, you know, how hard it was and just, you know, not wavering faith-wise.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yesterday, I was just, I was just praying over and over and over again, like, you know, like, just one win. So he got vulnerable. Yeah. I understand it. I totally understand it. He talks about his faith. talks about going in a closet. You know, he heard what his owner said.
Starting point is 00:55:46 If he didn't hear, his family, friends, and loved ones heard it and related to him if he didn't hear it for himself, which I'm sure he did. Or if he didn't hear it, I'm sure they brought it to him. The reporters brought it to him. But, you know. Wait, you're leaving me out in the wind, now. What do I want to say?
Starting point is 00:56:05 When he said, if we can just complete one pass, he's like, I believe it. even Aaron Glenn. Right. Right. Okay. I got you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Yeah. It would definitely help if we can complete a pass. That was loud and clear. Yes. And, boy, you know what Tyraud Taylor has some of the worst look. Because he was supposed to start in front of Justin Herbert. He gets a shot in his ribs. It punctures his lungs.
Starting point is 00:56:31 He doesn't start. Justin Herbert does. And they don't look back. Yeah. He's supposed to start this week. He heard. his knee last week. He couldn't play today.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Yeah, it's unfortunate. But, yeah, it can be tough. It can be tough, I mean, because, you know, he's in Chicago and things didn't go his way, and he goes to Pittsburgh and think that's going to be his opportunity. He plays well, but when Russ gets over that calf injury, Russ gets back in there and says, okay, now I'm at the Jets. They want me.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I want to be here. Yeah. And then things, I mean, O in one, But 0 and 2, 0 and 3, 0 and 4. And he's not playing well. Let's not sugarcoat it. He's not playing well. This is supposed to be a defensive team, and they've been crap.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Yeah. They've been bad. Yeah. They got some high dollar guys over there. Quentin Williams hasn't looked like Quentin Williams in a long time. I don't care what you guys say. Salis Garner does not look the same to me. Does it?
Starting point is 00:57:37 They're not this is not that. suffocating defense that remember Ocho when they had Zach Wilson, if we can just get somebody, if we can just get somebody give us 14 points, we'd be fine. Yeah. They're not the same. I forget the other Quinny's brother
Starting point is 00:57:53 name, middle lineback. I think he's hurt right now. But this defense hasn't looked good in the last two years. It hasn't. I mean, there's no way around it. Jets fans, y'all know that. NFL fans, you know that.
Starting point is 00:58:09 That is not the same defense that was suffocating that when Zach Wilson in there and they were winning, you know, Ocho, he'd scored one touchdown and he'd kick two field goals and that would be enough for them to win. They're not that defense anymore. Right. Yeah. Oh, man, dog. Eagles beat the Giants.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Sequant clips the 100 yards rushing for the first time all year. His first carry of the game, he got out the gate for 65 yards. I don't know what, I don't know what it is about. out the Giants. He's like, look, y'all didn't want me, so don't even worry about it. You see that on your screen, 23 first downs, 179 pass yards. Jalen Hertz, four touchdown passes. They had over 200 rush yards. And they did this. Obviously, A.J. Brown didn't play today, nursing a hamstring injury. But Dallas got it, caught two touchdown on National Tighten Day.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Devonte Smith had a nice day. But Seekwan, got back to Seekwon. He tweaked that growing. Now we're going to see moving forward. That was the groin or a hamstring? They said it was his growing. I thought it was his hamstring too, Ocho. Yeah. But they said it was his growing. Ooh, that ain't nothing to play with.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Hell no. That is nothing to play with. I think growing might be worse than the hamstring. Yeah, because you're not doing anything without it. It's right here. Let's see what. Jackson Dart was 14 to 9, 14 to 24, 193, one touchdown. he was sacked five times.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Ocho, the fish has got to do something. This tush push, y'all let him keep going, getting progress, but now he fumbled the ball, progress was stopped. You don't stop it with,
Starting point is 00:59:54 you don't stop it before? Yeah, that was a fumble. Brian Burns took the ball out of his hands. That was not, that was not on slate and that was not offensive PI. They're hand fighting. And what he did,
Starting point is 01:00:04 he runs into him. And so when you bump him, it catapults me forward. But you know, you know what they saw, though. When Slayton extends his arm, then they thought. But you missed the part that he was holding it. You're the missed the part where he was holding Slayton. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:18 But, you know, anytime you extend, you got to, you got to use that, what you call it? Elbow. Yeah, that elbow. Yeah. Anytime you extend like that, they call it every time, no matter what. I didn't, yeah, that's a tough call. It's 50-50. But obviously, knowing a referee, once he sees the extension of the arm,
Starting point is 01:00:37 the flag is coming out. It's coming out every time. Devonate Smith had six for 84. Jeanne Dawson had a mouse catch. Dallas Garter had three catches for 28 yards and two touchdown. Sequin had a touchdown. Look, they ran the football. Jalen Hartz only threw the ball 20 times.
Starting point is 01:01:00 He was 15 or 20, 179, 4 touchdowns. Yeah. They're sacking four times. but it didn't turn the ball over. But also, they had a second and 31. The Eagles had a second in 31. They hand the ball off the tank Biggsby. He gets 33 yards.
Starting point is 01:01:21 That's crazy. Yeah. How you let somebody second in 31 and they run a handoff and pick it up? That's embarrassing. Yeah, it is. They got off, they got after Jackson Dard today too long. They got, they got asked him, try to make it as,
Starting point is 01:01:41 try to make it as uncomfortable of a game as possible for him. He's still sat in the pocket. He's tried to do, he tried to extend plays the best way he can instead of just taking off and running, but they made it hell for him. They, man, they didn't hurt, they didn't hurt my dog, scat pack, man. Yeah, scataboo. That's a very serious thing. I couldn't see, Ocho, I wanted them to show it,
Starting point is 01:02:01 but obviously they were not going to reshore it because it's such a gruesome injury. I don't know whether the hip drop, tackle or was it just a routine tackle? I don't know what it was. It was more bang, routine. And when he came down, I think the weight came down and the defender falling right on that angle, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:18 and it just, the pressure, it just, it was gone. So he's having, it's reported that he's having surgery tonight. So he probably flew back with the, well, they take the train. So he probably, you know, bust him back and he,
Starting point is 01:02:36 he probably in certain well he probably out of surgery now but they probably got that thing and had the surgery because that's if i'm not mistaken that's the same injury like dack had back yeah hey foot hanging the same way foot hanging the exact same way so i forgot what the timeline was but for that back he's done for the year yeah he'll be back oh joe he'll be plenty he'll be ready uh he'll be ready to go o t a mini cabs he'll be good to go yeah okay okay may be plenty good to go. Yeah. But I'm trying to figure out with the Giants.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Jans, what y'all doing? They hand the ball to Sequan. Don't nobody touch him, he goes 65 yards. Now you got hell on your hands. Now you got to deal with it. Yeah, the rest of the game. You let him do something that he hadn't seen all you. You let him see daylight.
Starting point is 01:03:23 You can't let him play in space. See you. He was gone. He's a guy that you can't let him. You can't give him an inch. You'll take a mile. greedy every time he's going to eat everything on his plate and then ask and eat on your eat off your plate so you can't give you can't give him that and everybody else has done a great job of
Starting point is 01:03:46 bottling him up now he's extra motivated i heard she say something she's like he gets extra motivation when he plays the clippers because when it's all saying done he wants the okayc thunder to feel like they won the trade shade they want it well they did now you don't got to wait to the end of it we we know now they've won it You're an MVP, and you won the championship, and you're a finals MVP. They won the trade. You don't have to do anything else. They won that trade.
Starting point is 01:04:14 And they still get draft picks from the Clippers. So they won the trade. Really, really, really, really won the trade. But Sequin, look, yeah, he's motivated. Y'all didn't want me. Y'all, y'all bulljibed around and do all that. Well, go ahead and see what you can get. and, you know, come back to us.
Starting point is 01:04:37 When you have no, y'all don't have no desire to train, to, to, to pay this man. Y'all, y'all just dangled this man around. Oh, we love to have you. We know what you mean to this organization. We love the family. We love the way you represent this organization. Bro, stop that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Stop it. Because if you wanted him, you could have signed him long before then. You know, but he's like, I'm going to make y'all pay every chance I get. going to make you play. I'm going to make you pay. I am. I'm going to make you pay. And he was great. Like I said, Jalen did not have to throw the ball many times. He gave his guys an opportunity to make plays. The 50-50 ball, the Dodson. Dawson goes up over the top. But he threw some great balls to Smitty. Smitty did some out. You know, he's small and stature, but he plays big. Dallas Garder, you know, hey, on a slant round
Starting point is 01:05:33 on the goal line, he gets the ball in the end zone. And then he scrambles out and he hits a goddity up the scene. But it's, man, it's, you know, what could have been had that rule to fumble? What could have been if Slayton is a touchdown? We'll never know what happens, oh, Joe. But I thought the Eagles, I thought the Giants played tough as long as they could. The one thing I will say, I don't know if you're going to see this. Brough, you can't keep trying to run over people as a quarterback, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:05 You can't. You're going to have a very short shelf life. Yeah. Those guys are hurt you, bro. Yeah. You can't do that. You can't keep dropping your head. Hey, he'll understand.
Starting point is 01:06:16 He'll understand when he tried to drop his head on the right person. And the next day, you know, he peeped out his ribs thinking he in jail. Yeah, that's what he'll learn. Yeah. Well, bro, you can't. Yeah, I like him, though. Oh, I love his toughness. but you've got to be tough and smart.
Starting point is 01:06:36 You can't just be tough, Ocho, at that position. You got to be smart. Yeah, but let's not take too much of what makes him him. Let's not take too much of what makes him him and makes him exciting and entertaining. Like, take too much of that way from him. That's why people tune in. Not trying to ducking your head, trying to run people over,
Starting point is 01:06:55 but just that dog, not scatterball is gone. So now the only thing, me as a football fan, me as an NFL fan, the only thing I have to look forward to what Malik neighbors going out is to turn in to see, okay, let's see what the hell of Jackson Dart is going to do. Before it was, okay, let me see what the hell Scatterboe and Jackson's going to do.
Starting point is 01:07:13 That's what I felt today. I was excited, like a legitimate excitement. I know these two, I know me too for the act of fool. They lost Scataboo for the season. He scored his seventh touchdown in the first quarter, in the first quarter. Now, no Scataboo, no Malik neighbors. Offense was struggling without those two guys
Starting point is 01:07:33 because it's always seemed like it's like pulling teeth to try to get the ball, get some consistent movement consistency as far as getting the ball in the end zone. They didn't break 200 yards until the final two drives. So it's tough. You lose your best run. You lose two or your three best offensive weapons. Now, other guys,
Starting point is 01:07:49 Wondell Robinson, you're going to have to step up. Slate, you guys are going to have to step up. Other guys are going to, what's the little running back name that we had him on, Ocho? He's going to have to step up. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to have to step up. This was Slate in first game back, right?
Starting point is 01:08:02 He said, I think, I think they're going to be all right. They're going to be all right. They got no choice. Tyrone and Tracy, you're going to have to, bro, you're going to have to pay big. You know, I know you can do it, Singletary. You guys are going to have to step up in the absence of Scatibu. God damn scat pack. Patriots beat the Browns 32, 13.
Starting point is 01:08:26 One week after finally eclipson 17 points, Cleveland offense, reverted to its old form, mustering two touchdown. Gabriel also couldn't take care of the ball. One thing coaches has consistently praised him for is taking care of the football. But guess what, Ocho, two touchdowns. Shadour Sanders wouldn't have acted because of a back injury, but the calls for him to play will only grow louder if the Browns continue to. Oh, the Browns' by week is this week.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Even though Kevin Stefansky said after the game that Gabriel will remain the team starter for now. Hey, them guy, hey, that goddamn Drake May, what? He's looking good, Joe. Hey, listen, Drake May and Josh McDaniels, now I'm not saying, I'm not, I'm just saying, the start that they're off to right now. God damn Patriots are six and two, huh?
Starting point is 01:09:20 Yes. But them boys, six and two, and they're dealing. Boy, Drake May is dealing. They running the ball. they throwing the ball and he's not just as opposed to flacco going to uno you know all the time 19 times man drake make getting there everybody man listen you get you get a ball you get a ball you get a ball you get a ball boutet stephan diggs man they was at collins uh austral huper hunter henry and everybody eating yes everybody eats and it's a good thing it's a good thing
Starting point is 01:09:53 obviously you're playing the browns the browns have a very good deepen but they're there's only so much they can do. There's only so much holding a team, holding a team down that they can do where your offense is spluttering. And the orphans are spreading too much. You know, you're, you're dead the water. Then you've got damn defense.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Is that on the goddamn field? Damn, they're all got damn. All night long. All night long. Yeah, it is. And I'm looking, Patriots had the ball for over 36 minutes. Man. So that means the Browns only had it for 20,
Starting point is 01:10:27 ain't a whole lot you can do in 23 minutes with the football. At all. If you're going to have the ball in 23 minutes, you got to be explosive. You've got to be explosive. Efficient and explosive. Kansas City. Kansas City didn't have it because you had Tyreek taking the top off
Starting point is 01:10:42 and one play, two plays, 40 seconds, they don't score the touchdown. So you can understand that. They don't have that level of explosiveness. So when you have the ball 23 minutes, that means somebody else possessing it and they're going to put foot in you. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you.
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