Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Josh Allen dominates, Lamar Jackson underwhelming, Unc clowns Bengals

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills destroying Brock Purdy and the San Francisco 49ers in the snow on Sunday Night Football to clinch their 5th straight AFC title. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss an underwhelming performance from Baltimore Ravens’ Lamar Jackson and Justin Tucker missing 3 different kicks for Baltimore in a 24-19 loss to Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles, Pittsburgh Steelers’ Russell Wilson throwing for a season-high 414 yards and 3 TDs as the Steelers top Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals 44-38 and much more!03:00 - Show start05:00 - Intro07:00 - Niners v Bills30:41 - Eagles v Ravens50:00 - Steelers v Bengals(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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because Kansas City is number one because Kansas City only has one loss. But if Kansas City were to get a second loss, Buffalo would vault to the number one seed since they beat Kansas City head-to-head. Josh Allen threw for two touchdowns, rushed for another, and also recorded

a receiving touchdown when Omari Cooper laddered him the football following his own pass. James Cook added 120 yards of total offense. Over 100 of those yards, Ocho, was rushing, and a 65-yard touchdown run really put Buffalo

in control of this ball game and they didn't look back from that point Ocho as you watch this game as you watch the Bills what impressed you about this game? Shit from start to finish huh they won the game before the game even started from start to finish in all three phases of the game whether it be offense whether it be defense

they dominated the game and the conditions you can't use the conditions as a reasoning, because, yeah. Buffalo did it. Exactly. I was getting ready to say the same thing. They were able to run their offense. They were able to play defense. They were able to do what they needed to do on special teams as well. Listen, they dominated

the game from start to finish. Josh Allen looks completely different than he did last year. Obviously, they did have a winning season, but he's been superb and superior with protecting the football. Now, he has thrown interceptions, but nothing to the point in what he did last year. In the previous years, because that's what got him in trouble. Oh, yeah, it got him in trouble,

especially late in the season like this, and obviously once he also got into the playoffs. But listen, the way they're playing right now is, I wouldn't be surprised. Obviously, also tonight, I want to also mention that they did win the AFC East with tonight's win.

They did win the AFC East. With five weeks to go, they're already AFC East champs. Yeah, listen, I think, obviously, I'm going to toot my own horn for my team. I think if Tua doesn't go down,

I think the Dolphins give them a run for their money. But obviously that didn't happen with Tua being out for four or five games, whatever it may have been. But congratulations to the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen. They look good. I want to see what they do in the playoffs, though. That's all that matters.

That's all that matters. I want to see if they can play this way in the postseason, there's a good chance we see the goddamn Buffalo Bills represent the AFC and goddamn New Orleans. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that Josh Allen has solidified himself as a

top five quarterback. Because year in and year out, he has his team in the playoffs. And for the most part, unless they run into Kansas City, they go far. They go far. I mean, it's really that simple. They lost to Kansas City in the divisional round. They lost to them in the AFC championship

round. And they lost to them again in the divisional round. But he's been there every year. And he's gotten better. He finished, what, second, I think last year or maybe a couple, maybe last year. He finished second in the MVP voting. If everything stays according to plan, he'll probably win it this year,

Ocho, unless Saquon goes over the 20, breaks that record, and then that might have something to say about it, and if he can somehow finagle that number one seed away from the Lions. But right now, Josh Allen looks extremely well, and he's not turning the football over, so he's not

helping his team and also helping the other team as well, because he was giving his team 21 points, but he was giving the other team 14 points with his turnovers, but he's done a better job of taking care of the football. I think McDermott and what's the, what's his coordinator's name? He came on last year because they fired, I think Alex Van Pelt.

They fired him. This guy took over. And with a whole year of this, Josh Allen looks different. Yeah. He looks different. He's still Josh Allen. He's still an effective. He still can throw the football.

He still can run. But what he's doing now, Ocho, he's giving you that same kind of offensive production minus the turnovers. Joe Brady. Joe Brady has done an unbelievable job. This looks like the Josh Allen that Brian Dayball had. Right. But even when Dabs had it, he was turning the ball over a lot more than what he should have.

Right. Now Joe Brady has it, and I don't know what he's saying. Look, son, we can go really far, but you've got to do a better job of taking care of the football, especially turning the ball over in the red zone. He was throwing interceptions in the end zone. They're about to go in for a touchdown. He's fumbling the ball. Go ahead. You know what it was like? You know what it reminded me of? I'm sure you remember

and the people in the chat that are watching, I'm not sure how much you paid attention to Brett Favre who used to take so many chances because of his arm strength. He was a gunslinger. So there were certain times he could take a chance and he would try to win with his arm. And more times than not,

he would lose those occasions. You know? Yes. But Josh Allen, I see Josh Allen in that light a little bit. But this year, like you said, Joe Brady,

I'm not sure what they told Josh Allen. He's still Superman, but he's not being Superman with his arm. He's doing it in other areas, in other facets of his game as well, which is why they're playing so well. And they've only lost two games this year. He is the unquestioned leader of that offense. And this is not to take a shot at anybody.

But Ocho, you know, a quarterback, when you're young like that and you got a veteran guy in front of you, sometimes you tend to like, okay, I got to make sure I get him the ball. None of these guys, Amari Cooper is not a guy, he doesn't strike me as a guy, he's very quiet. He's not going to demand

a football like other receivers would have in the past. And you look at Shakira and you look at, what's the name, Holloway? The guy that showed up. Mac Hollins. Hollins, Hollins.

He showed up to the game barefooted, Ocho. Did you see him? Always. Hey, he don't wear no shoes. He don't wear no shoes He showed up to the game barefooted, Ocho. Did you see him? Always. Hey, he don't wear no shoes. He don't wear no shoes. He walked into the stadium barefooted. I ain't trying to catch pneumonia to prove no point to nobody.

But anyway, I think the thing is with Josh Allen, he's really comfortable in this leadership role as the unquestioned leader. He can go out there and focus. He doesn't have to worry about trying to force the football. Sometimes, Ocho, every quarterback, great quarterback, takes risk. Yeah. But they're calculated risk. Right.

At the right time. He was taking unnecessary risk. Right. There's a difference between the two. A mathematic calculation and this just arbitrarily spraying the football over the field. Right, right, right. That's what got him in trouble. That's what got the Bills in trouble.

Right. Since he's done a better job of taking care of the football, I don't think anybody that watches the game casually or analytically can say this is not the best Josh Allen that we've seen because it absolutely is. Absolutely.

He's still as effective running the football. He's still effective throwing the football minus the turnovers. So think about it. He'd give you the production on the ground with his legs. They seem to be running a little better this year with James Cook and Davis that they have in the past. And now he's still giving that production

through the air minus the turnovers. So everything has increased. The turnovers have decreased. They look really good defensively. I was anxious to see because they let Micah Hyde go. They let Poirier go. Tred really good defensively. I was anxious to see because they let Micah Hyde go. They let Poirier go. Tredavis White went. Von Miller, you know, he was

coming back off of that injury. He had a little hiccup, you know, had to go sit down for four games. Matt Milano got injured. He returned. And so I was anxious to see how they were going to look defensively because look, everybody's like,

man, they're going to take a step back offensively. They lose Gabe Davis. They lose Stephon. And I'm like, they might, but knowing the quarterbacks, because we saw Patrick Mahomes, how he stood, he won two Super Bowls and an MVP when Tyreek, one of the most dangerous, if not the most dangerous receiver in football left. If Josh Allen is what we thought he was and what we think he is,

Ocho, he should be able to overcome that. Now, he might not throw for 40 touchdowns, close to 40 touchdowns, but I believe he'll be a better quarterback for that. Man, Dave A, you look at Vaughn. Go ahead. Go ahead.

I was getting ready to tell you, despite what he did lose, because we put him in that upper echelon of quarterbacks, he's been able to overcome not having those number one targets. He's elevated the team by himself with his play. That's what we asked the great quarterbacks to do. You are a rising tide. You're supposed to lift not just the mega yachts you're supposed to lift the rowboats also the bass boat it does not matter it does not matter a kayak if you are

what we say you and present you to be right you should be able to lift those guys right and he's done that this year uh but you know defensively they can get after you you got Ed Oliver, you got Rousseau, Epinesa you got Vaughn they've done a great job of getting after the quarterback but the thing is Ocho and I don't know how much you played in the snow but you can't have your normal gait you have to understand

you try to take off like you, yeah you got to chop yeah, and I'm seeing the 49ers slipping all over the place, bro you can't stride your normal stride pattern. You can't stop like you normally could. So, bro, I don't know why. I just don't get it, Ocho. I don't know.

I mean, I think the guys have played enough in inclement weather. Right. You have to change. When it's raining, you can't do your same stride pattern. And try to stop on a dime. I'm glad you said that. This is why I prefer playing on turf fields. Many players don't

like turf fields. Like the field in Chicago. I mean Chicago. Like the field in Cincinnati. Even if it was raining, you could run full speed and stop because of the way the turf was made. You know what I mean? When there's that much snow on the field, that much snow, or if you're playing on grass

like you did in Denver, everything changes. You got to understand that. One, before the game starts, you need to get out there and test your cleats. Put them nine studs, right? Seven studs. Seven studs. Put them goddamn seven studs on and learn how to chop

your goddamn feet that's it you can't like you said your gait has to change and everything has to be short and quick short and quick

it's the only way you're going to be able to get out your break and it's even harder now Ocho because now the film the field

it can't it's not it can't melt the snow fast as it's piling up and they can't throw it off so now you have to change it even more because your cleat has to go down through the snow so now you got a layer

between you and the field so your situation, your gait has to be even better now some of this was the terrible angle that Brown took the safety, bro I don't know where the hell you was going. That's your gap, okay? They block down.

They kick out. That's you and Cook. Where the hell were you going on the first touchdown? Ward, you have fourth. You have contained. You can't let him outside, Ocho. You in. Absolutely.

That's rule number one. That's rule number one. At times, I think, at times, sometimes I want to blame the weather. And then at times I want to blame people making business decisions. Yes. I want to say people are making business decisions. At that point, James Cook, I love James Cook, but he's not an imposing figure at the running back position. There should be no reason why you don't want to fill that hold. There should be no reason why you don't want to feel that gap. You know where you're supposed to be at. Ocho, but here's the thing. The weather doesn't change your responsibility.

See, that's the thing that people need to get through their head. If my responsibility is forced and contained, I don't give a damn if it's raining. I don't care if it's 80. I don't care if it's 70 below. I still got contained. The condition doesn't change my responsibilities. Right.

Now, it might not. The weather might change how I go about it. Yeah. But if you take a horrible angle, if you take a horrible angle in bad conditions, it's going to make it even worse because you're going to slip, slip, and slide trying to recover. If you take a bad angle in ideal conditions, you're still not going to make the play. You have to understand your launch point, where he is, the rate he's coming towards you.

I'm like, bro, what are y'all doing? It's almost like Ocho is like, they just like, I'm looking at him. I'm like, bro, I saw when he took up. I said, you got no, if he sidestepped, you got no chance. At all. Zero. At all. For one, you got to listen.

I'm not a defender, but I do understand you got to put yourself in position. You got to put your body in position. So even if he does have a two-way go, you have a chance to react. The angle you taking, I already knew one James Cook make one move. It's over. You're not going to turn and catch nobody. Turn and catch who? In the NFL?

No. He's got a head of steam. But Buffalo look good. Buffalo has looked good. When Josh Allen takes care of the football, they look damn near unbeatable. Now, they seem to be playing their best football at the right time. Ocho, this is one you want to be playing great football.

You want to be heading into December? December. Playing your best football. Heading into January? Playing your best football. And they look like they're playing that. And they're like, look, I understand. We understand the road to the Super Bowl and the AFC still goes through Kansas City.

But I sure would like a crack at them. I sure, I just want my opportunity. I know we've had several, but I want it one more time. And some tell me if they get it this year, I got a feeling with the way they look. And Josh Allen's understanding that if I can protect the ball and give my team a chance with the way they look and Josh Allen's understanding that if I can protect the ball and give my team a chance with the way our defense is playing, obviously Milano's back. Goddamn

Von Miller is playing good. Von, Russo, Epinesa. I think they got a chance. And the way the Chiefs look right now where they're barely scraping by with these wins. Barely scraping by. Their defense doesn't look as formidable as it did early,

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And if it wasn't for the mistake, look, mistakes happen in the game. Yeah. But I believe the teams that they're going to face are better offensively than some of the teams that they've struggled with. The question is, can you take care of the football? Can you put them in situations because you've got to protect the football.

You've got to protect the football. If you protect the football, you give yourself a chance. If you don't, you play double once the playoff hits. You pay a premium for turning the football over. Ocho, how much better does Josh look without Steph on? He looks really good. I think the fact that he doesn't have to force the ball to anyone. He's not thinking about getting Steph the ball. I think not having not having not having to worry about, okay, is Steph okay?

It's hard to say. He just looks better. I think the fact that he doesn't have that alpha, he doesn't have that alpha dog where he has to worry about feeding the ball and making sure he's okay. At times when you have someone like that, that's an alpha, that's an outlet that you know you can go to and you can count on, that is a great thing, having a dominant number one receiver like that that's an alpha that's an outlet that you know you can go to and you can count on that is a great thing having a dominant number one receiver like that but at times because josh allen is so good and he can overcome with his play and arm and legs without having an alpha

alpha receiver like that i think he's been okay now many quarterbacks can't overcome that josh allen is in a class of his own there may be four maybe five maybe five quarterbacks can't overcome that. Josh Allen is in a class of his own. There may be four, maybe five quarterbacks where you can take away their number one receivers or their alpha receivers, and they can still function and elevate that offense that they're in control of. I think the thing that you have to have if you're dealing with a dominant personality

like a number one receiver because they normally have dominant personality oh yeah sometimes they don't but a lot of times they do yeah you need to be the veteran quarterback you see montana was already established he had already won two super bowls and two super bowl mvps by the time rice landed right and you have Marino. So, Duper, Mark Clayton, Mark Duper ain't gonna trump him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jim Kelly, you're not gonna trump him. So, you get guys that are already established and even though you have dominant personalities, I'd look

and Tom says, look, what I try to do is that I always try to give Randy the ball early. And if I couldn't get him the ball early, I would go to him and tell him,

bro, we're trying to, we're going to get you the ball. Just stay with me, stay with me. I got to keep him in a positive mind frame. Because the last thing I want to do is lose it. Because, and teams need to understand, bro, how you want me to hit the game winning shot when you haven't thrown me the ball the entire game? Who hit, who, you can't ask Steph the ball the entire game. Who hit who?

You can't ask Steph Curry, look, Steph. Hey, we want you to feed Klay. We want you to feed Draymond. We want you to feed all these other guys. Oh, we down two. Hey, Steph, you ready? No, hell no. He's got the ball the whole night.

Right. That's what a receiver said. If you give it to a guy early, Ocho, you know this, you and I both caught the ball for a living. Give it to me early. You got me late. Yeah. I just need to feel it. I just need to feel it a couple times. Okay? Now

late in the ball game, we good. I don't need it much. Throw me a smoke. Throw me a screen. Throw me a slam. Let me touch the ball. Let me get myself into a rhythm of the game. I'm not going to force the issue. I'm going to allow the game to come to me. I'm just saying, when I was with Carson, Coach Bob Rakowski,

I never figured Coach Bob Rakowski was our offensive coordinator. My receiver coach at the time was Hugh Jackson. I tell Hugh before the game started, I tell Carson, listen, I'm not going to bother you. I'm not going to say nothing to you. Now, what I will do at times is I'll come out of the huddle where I feel the floor of the game is not going in my favor or going in my direction. I'll let you know.

I never, as boisterous and as flamboyant as I was, I never bothered Carson during the game. But what I would do is when he had called a play and before I leave the huddle, you know what I do? I tap his hip. I tap his hip just to alert him I'm not gonna say nothing to you just know in the back of your mind then I get to the last scrimmage right and he making his call and I see something I know I can take advantage based on the play that was called I do my famous thing that's it you get that bitch all the way outside the stadium so he go come on now yeah come on come on things are not going my way.

Just let me touch it. Let me feel it. But I didn't want to use my voice at all because if you irritate that one, I'm not trumping him. I'm not trumping him no matter what I've done.

And that's the thing. I just say, T, give me a look. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying, hey, just give me a look. He's like, T, you block it on this one. I said, said i'm gonna leak out late if you get in trouble

hey you're right i'll block it i'll block it on this one ojo but if you get in trouble i'll leak out right now i'm gonna give you a place to go with the ball that's all i'm saying ojo kyle shanahan said kristen mccaffrey suffered a potentially season-ending PCL injury. Ah, wait, that was non-contact. Or was it previously when he got tripped up? You think it happened previously?

They showed, they showed that play. Right. But you knew as soon as like that knee buckle, when he took off, you could see that knee buckle.

And then he like gave himself up. So you knew something. I was like, damn, did he, did the Achilles, did the calf go?

But Kyle Shanahan just said at his press conference, Christian McCaffrey suffered a potentially seasoned ending. It's over. It don't make any sense. Was it the same leg? Was it the same leg that he just had? I think it was his right one. I think it was his right one.

What do you call it? Plantar fascia? No, he had a calf injury that led into his Achilles. Mm. And the thing, Ocho, and you know the thing is, is that, what do we say all the time? If you limp into the season, oh, you limping out of it. Out of it, yeah.

How you gonna get healthy during the season? It's impossible. It's impossible. The number one thing when anybody have surgery or anybody have an injury, what do they tell you? The most important thing, Ocho, rest. Rest.

How do you get rest? They working the dog crap out of you. Yeah. I'm just saying, Ocho. It's really that simple. And listen, they can only protect you so much. Because in order to get you back to the playing speed and get you acclimated to game tempo, you got to work some type of work. You got to put that work in.

Once they put you out there with a bullets of firing. Hey, them boys. They can do them. Boys are moving. Damn. I'm sad. I'm sad for him, man. I'm sad for him, man.

Prayers up the C-Mac. C-Mac. Buffalo clinched their fifth straight AFC title, setting a new franchise record. Buffalo had previously won four AFC titles, consecutive 88 through 91.

That was also the years that they ended up going to the Super Bowl. When they went to the Super Bowl, 90, 91, 92, 93. But Buffalo played extremely well tonight. They got it done. It wasn't that San Francisco played. They turned the ball over Ocho, but they

had some opportunities. And they got into the red zone and they had to settle for field goals. Use chick fumble. Bunch of calls in to let the ball slip out of his hand. Purdy. Debo fumble to kick off they had some opportunities when you're on the road and you're playing against a team that seemingly got it going you have to cash in on all

your opportunities as well yeah ah the game of the day the eagles defeated the ravens 24 19 justin tucker has lost multiple games this season and left seven points off the board tonight. He continued this season's long struggles by missing two field goals and a PAT, one from 47, one from 43. His two failed field goals came in the third when Baltimore

trailed 14-12. This is the first time that he's missed three kicks in a game and he put a major dent in the AFC and the Ravens' opportunity to win the North. Tucker's missed eight field goals, but he's missed 10 kicks, if I'm not mistaken. Eight field goals and two PATs this season, which is a single season high. Harbaugh is sticking with Tucker. We saw him go to them on the sidelines, said, we believe in you.

You hugged him. If you're asking me, are we going to move on from Justin Tucker? I'm not really planning doing that right now. I don't think that would be wise. Whoa. Did you hear the key words you just said? I don't like that. I don't like that.

Did he say right now or did you just add that in there? No, he said that right now. I don't plan on doing that right now. I'm not really planning on doing that right now. I don't think that'd be wise. I don't like that. Listen, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

Talk to us. Also, also the chat. Chat, y'all listen to me now. I know I play around a lot, you know, when it comes to saying some of the things that I've done. But all of you know, my history and my resume as a kicker,

especially in the NFL, I know what that feel like. I understand the pressures that go know what that feel like. I understand the pressures that go into what Justin Tucker is going through right now. I understand the pressures of already having the moniker of being the greatest kicker of all time based on what you did in the past. But what you've done in the past when it comes to the NFL is always- He ain't got nothing to do right now. Yeah. He ain't got nothing to do right now. What have you done for me lately? Right now,

I don't watch much baseball, but I can tell what Justin is in. He's in a slump. Yeah. He's in a slump. He got the yips right now, Ocho. Huh? He got the yips right now.

Oh, yeah, he got the yips. Right now, Justin Tucker is in a slump. And you know what happens when players are in a slump? It gets to you here. Yes. You got to be mentally strong here, for one one, in order to get back into rhythm, to get back to what you were doing in the past, being the Justin Tucker that we're used to seeing,

you got to envision that motherfucker up here. Right now, he's getting to it. He think about missing the kick before he even kicked the ball, which is why he's missing the kicks. And they seem to be always veering to the left. They're always veering to, if you look at them, they're veering to the left they're always veering if you look at them they're veering to the left that's kind of like that's all mechanics baby yes all mechanics that's all mechanics on your follow-through on your swing you got to stop your

leg at a certain point if it's always veering to the left if anything adjust adjust your split adjust your alignment face the ball up a different way because everything is happening and reoccurring the same way. Kickers watch film. I'm a kicker. I'm telling you. I know some of you might laugh at me. I'm serious. I know what it is. I know what Justin Tucker's going through. He's going to be all right. I don't like the words

that Harbaugh said. He's going to be all right this year. I don't like that. I don't like that. You don't do the best kicker in the world like that just because he's going through be all right this year. I don't like that. I don't like that. You don't do the best kicker in the world like that just because he's going through a slump. Because you have quarterbacks. Quarterbacks go through slumps too. Sometimes even the best go through a bad season

or bad string of games where they just can't get themselves out of a funk. But at some point they turn it around, especially at the position. Once he gets it here, you got to visualize it here. Once you visualize it here and get that

confidence back he'll be fine the question is is he gonna get it back this year because it doesn't matter if he gets it back next year because they're trying to make the playoff this year and we how many times have the Ravens he kicked the Ravens to the Super Bowl as a rookie as an undrafted rookie he went to Denver and made the game-winning kick. And that launched him. That put him on his way. We've seen guys. You mentioned the sport.

You go back and look at golf. You look at David Duvall. You look at Ian Baker Finch. They had the yips. You mentioned baseball. Look at Chuck Nagblock. Look at Rick Ankeel. Rick Ankeel had to move to the outfield because he couldn't get the ball

over home plate. Chubb Knobloch could not throw the ball. He's a second baseman. He could not throw it to the first baseman. Steve Sacks had a similar situation. We've seen guys do it. David Duvall left. Ian Baker-Finch, they ended up leaving because

they couldn't punt. Rick and Kiel moved to the outfield because David Duvall left. Ian Baker-Finch, they ended up leaving because they couldn't putt. Right. Yeah. Rick Ankeo moved to the outfield because he could not throw the ball over the plate. Mm-hmm. And it's tough. Mm-hmm. Lamar Jackson did not play a good game today, Ocho.

He really never found his rhythm. Had multiple fumbles, but he recovered those. Had a lot of overthrows. He had likely. Mm-hmm. He could have hit likely on that play. I think it was in the second quarter. The corner out. The corner out. You overshot him a little bit. A little bit? Yeah, you overshot him. Likely stopped running

like, well, he got to be throwing that to somebody else. Because, hey, he running, he saw where the ball was going, so he just stopped. He was like, well, somebody out there in front of me. And then he come back and they defunded the ball. He was 6-15 on third down. The touchdown that he got, Ocho, that was late in the game because if they don't get that touchdown, they're shut out in the second half.

Lamar said his mother cursed him out after the game for not running more and not hitting the running lanes. The Ravens finished 2-5 in the red zone. He didn't play well today. On a day in which the defense, they held, they held, they held, they held, and they was needing Lamar to be Lamar. It didn't happen for him today.

You know what? One of the things I watched tonight, I love Lamar. I love that Lamar has proved that, you know what? I'm not just a run of the ball. I'm going to show you I can pass. I'm going to show you I can pass. I'm going to show you I can pass.

Listen, I know you can pass the ball, young bull, but I need you to be special. You know, on nights like tonight and games like tonight, I need you to be special with what makes you you. I need you to do what you was doing at Boynton Beach High School when I used to go watch you out there when you was a legit. Take off with the ball, baby, if it ain't there. Sometimes you got to go through your progression.

One, two, and three. Sometimes you got to look at one. If one ain't there, man, take off and go with that thing, boy. Sometimes you got to go off script. Sometimes you got to go off script and do what makes you you. You're special. You're a two-time MVP for a reason. I would have loved to see the Ravens win the game tonight.

I would have loved for it, especially when your kicker's not playing as well as he should be. Who has to overcome that? Lamar. Number eight. When Lamar is the one that has to overcome Justin Tucker not playing as good as he should be. So those points you're

missing, that puts the pressure on the quarterback to overcome the kicker's woes. Yeah. Sometimes you don't fuck that being a pass or shit. Boy, drop back if that shit ain't there. Man, take off with that bitch. Sometimes I do think he's trying to prove a point. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. God forgive me. I do think sometimes Lamar tries to prove that he's a thrower of the football. He is. He's proven it already. He's proven thrower of the football. He is. At the end of the- He's proven already. He's proven already. But who cares? Go back to doing what you do best.

So why is his mom cussing him out? So what was the difference today? Hey, you heard what she said, right? Yes. When you see the running lanes, boy, take off and do what you do. What? What you mean? You dangerous.

Just as dangerous as you are. You've already shown us. You're just as dangerous with your arm as you are with your legs. But tonight is a night where we needed your legs, not your arm. But we had this conversation in the AFC Championship game. You asked after the game, why did Lamar run more? So why do we keep having these conversations in these big, meaningful games where we keep saying, Lamar, why aren't you running the football more? are we continuously having these conversations though joe i don't know i don't know

baby i don't know i don't i don't know who so what because what are you trying to prove who can you prove that you led the league in touchdown passes you got 29 touchdown passes it's gonna be you or burke joe burrow probably lead the league in touchdown passes this year right at this point time the only thing left for you to prove lamar is that you can get to and win a football that it's going to be you or Joe Burrow probably lead the league in touchdown passes this year. At this point in time, the only thing left for you to prove, Lamar, is that you can get two and win a Super Bowl. That's it. That's the only thing that's left for you to prove.

Not only that, by any means necessary. Yes! Throwing it, running it, crawling it, wheelchair. I don't care how you got to get there. God damn it it just get there So we can get these motherfuckers Off your back That's

There will come a time By any means There will come a time That he will need to Like I'm gonna force Lamar Jackson To throw the football Yeah

I'm a firm believer That I would rather I know he can kill me With his leg I just can't let him Outside the pocket Right I can't let him just can't let him outside the pocket. Right. I can't let him outside the pocket, Ocho, because he's too dangerous out there and he can throw the ball over my head.

Yeah. So I got to keep him in the box. Now, I'm going to try to make sure that I got a spy to entice him like, okay, I got somebody spying. Right. And I want to trick him into thinking, yeah, go ahead and throw it from the pocket. Yeah. But you're playing into my hands because that's really why I want you anyway. That's why I want you. But listen, this is the good thing about it. This is

the good thing about the evolution of Lamar Jackson. This is about how good he's gotten even as a pocket passer. Okay, you want to put a spot. Okay, bet. Okay, boom. You want to have your D's rush up field and keep contained. But I can beat you from the pocket. I contained. But I can beat you from the pocket. I've proved that I can beat you from the pocket and be a throw of the ball.

I done showed you I can drop back. I can be in shotgun. I can RPO. I can play action fake and read through my progressions from one to three. I can't even come back to one if I got enough time. I can buy myself time. I can go off script. I can do all these different things

from the pocket so now that makes me that much more dangerous and multi-dimensional from the quarterback position I just don't like the fact that to me it seems like sometimes Lamar wants to prove especially tonight I'm going to show you I can beat you with my arm

when we know how close you are with your legs it's the reason God gave you that gift I need you again I'm going to show you I can beat you with my arm. Yes. When we know how special you are with your legs. It's the reason God gave you that gift, boy. I need you. Again, I know Lamar's going to see this, too. I know he's going to see this. Boy, I need you like you did when you was at Boynton Beach.

Huh? Stop playing, man. Come on. Oh, matter of fact. Oh, wait, wait, wait. The Ravens lost tonight. Can you please tell me how many carries Derrick Henry had? D. Henry had 19 for 82.

Ah, so he was over the 16-yard mark. Yeah. He was over the 16. They had 32 rush attempts for 166 yards, which ain't bad. You can live with that. Yeah, you spoke to him. Lamar was 23 of 36, 237. He got sacked three times. I thought the Eagles D-line did an unbelievable job of getting out there.

Jalen Carter is a monster. This is what Jalen Carter was supposed to be a top five pick. I'm not so sure he was. Had he not had all those off-the-field transgressions while he was in college, he's a top three talent. He can rush the passer. He can stop the run. He's relentless.

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long. It was Mark Andrews made some unbelievable touchdown catch. Hey, in the end zone? Yes. That hop play? Yes. That was nice. Yes.

He saved his eight. He caught one in the field like that. That's what you call bailing your quarterback out. Yes. That's how you bail your quarterback out. The Ravens was two of five in the red zone. And I think the thing is, Ocho, is that, look, in a situation like that, when your kicker is struggling.

Right. You got, hey guys, he's struggling today guys. Hey, we got to do a better job. We got to get this ball in the end zone. We got to make it PATs. Now he hooked one of those

but I would, hey, at least we got six. Right. Because when we put it on his foot, we might not get anything. Because it was 14 to 12 and he missed two kicks that could have made it 18-14.

Right. But, 14-12 and he missed two kicks that could have made it 18-14. Right. But Damn. I don't like what I'm seeing from the Ravens, Ocho. I don't. I don't. Because they don't look like the team. You remember like the first say nine weeks

of the season? How good they look? Running the football and Lamar throwing it. Yeah. Excuse me. D Henry running it. Very good. They look really, really good. I'm looking at this team right now.

Oh, Joe, I don't see the same. I don't see the same team. Yeah. And, and, and defensively,

they played a little better today. They didn't give up the big, they didn't give up the big plays. No, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, They played a little better today. They didn't give up the big plays throwing the football. Jalen Hurst was... Ocho. Yes, sir. They had 252 yards of total offense. They was 11 of 19. Jalen Hurst was 11 of 19.

118 yards and a touchdown. They ran the ball 33 times for 140. Listen, it was a good showing, though. It was a good showing. I mean, for the Ravens defensively. Especially, obviously,

their secondary they might, they did last. Yeah, they could not do it. They goddamn did last and they did very well trying to contain Saquon. We didn't see Saquon hit his head off the goalpost going for 60 and 70 yards. Yeah, he had a 25-yarder.

That touchdown run, it was 25 yards. He ended up with 23 carries for 107. Yeah. So I think he's at 1499 currently right now because he's at 1392. So I think he's at 1499. He still has a chance uh he has five games left yeah to get uh to average like 120 yards to get 2000 yeah i mean he's gonna really have to pick up the pace to get uh 2105 yeah i mean obviously but they say he's on pace to get 21 21 what's he

on pace to get now ed is he on pace to break the record? Oh, Edge, put it up here. Who they got next? Oh, if he plays in all 17 games, then he has a chance. He's on pace to get 21-23 now. He also caught two passes for 10 yards. The NFL record is set by E.D., 21-05 in 1984. Right.

But E.D. didn't, think about it But E.D. didn't, think about it, E.D. didn't win the MVP that season. Dan Marino did because that was the year Danny threw for 48 touchdowns and 5,000 yards. I mean, to throw for 5,000 yards in that era, do you understand how good that was?

With all the holding, with all the physicality, the quarterback knocking your, I mean, the D-line, the defense knocking your quarterback out. They're killing your receivers. And he threw for 5,000. Yeah. That was Duper and Clayton, huh?

Yeah, that's the Mark brothers. I wonder who the tight end was then. I think they had Crash Jensen, Jim Jensen. Okay. Might have been one of the tight ends. Who was the running back, you think? If I'm not mistaken, I think it was Tony Nathan. Tony Nathan.

Throwback. Yeah. Oh, that's dope, man. That's dope. And Jim Jensen? Dan Johnson. Dan Johnson. Yeah.

Man, look. yeah man look I mean if somebody would have told me that Jalen Hurst would only throw for 118 yards on a touchdown and they would only have 252 yards I'd say what a Ravens gonna win yeah I'd say the Ravens gonna win the game they could have won the game

obviously there were some kicks that were missed. There's some other things that didn't go in their way, didn't go in their favor. I think if we got the Lamar Jackson that we're used to seeing that would be able to, that can overcome the kicker's woes,

I think the Ravens do win that game. They have to play better. Lamar has to play better. He knows that. He's going to go back and look at film and say, well, God damn, this one here, this is a chance

where I should have took that bitch down and, goddawg, stop cursing, man. I should have took the ball down and ran with it and do what I do best. Stop trying to sit in the park and buy time and buy time trying to be off script waiting on somebody to pop open. Well, they're running out of time.

Because, uh, the Steelers. Yeah. Saquon is on pace to get the record. He's on pace now for 2,501 yards. The record for most total yards in a season is 2,509 by Chris Johnson. Philly win their eighth straight and leave the Eagles 10-1, one game behind the Lions for the top seed in the NFC. The Eagles are two and a half games up for the

East lead over the Washington Commanders. Oh, Cho! Yo! Whatever. The Steelers defeated the Bengals. Say that for last, man. Say that for last.

No, we gotta get to this one right now. The Steelers defeated the Bengals 44-38. Shoot out. Not only did the defense, excuse me, the offense move the ball at will, but the Steelers' defense forced three turnovers, including a fourth-quarter scoop and score by Peyton Wilson. Pickens led the Steelers with 74 yards receiving on three catches with a touchdown, but drew

15-yard penalties after two of his catches. After the game, Pickens said there wasn't anything he needed to do differently in those situations. Tomlin said he just got to grow up. This is an emotional game. These divisional games are big. He got a target on his back

because he's George. He understands that, but he's got to grow up. He's just got to grow up in a hurry. That'll cost you a game and a playoff, Ocho. Yeah. I mean, George, listen, I'm going to hit young bull. I got Georgie number. I'm going to talk to him. Listen, take some of that

fun, you know, some of that energy that you display that you're being penalized for and turn that into entertainment, turn it into entertainment. It's okay to be the villain, enjoy being a villain, embrace being the villain, but do it in a way where it's organized chaos within the game of football, have fun within the game of football without having to get those penalties.

I'm telling you, it's going to pay dividends in the long run. He has to understand that. The gun gesture in the end zone. But you know you can't do that. And I know, Chad, fans, I know. Air guns and bullets don't kill anybody. But the NFL said we don't want fans. Right, right, right, right.

If your boss tells you you cannot come to work with khakis, don't bring your ass to work with khakis. Khakis, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't get it. Ocho, we knew, Ocho, if we wore our socks a certain height, the NFL said we want you to pull,

we want your knees covered. Mm-hmm. I expected to get a fine if I made more than two plays and I didn't pull my socks up. But you can't say, well, what did the socks... And I used to ask all the time, what does my socks got to do? They say, Shannon, we want uniformity.

They say, Shannon, we let you do yours, and then somebody's going to come out there with footies, and then somebody's going to come out here, and then everybody's going to start looking like an all-tournament team. They say, we want everybody... We want uniformity, Shannon. We're the National Football League, and we're trying to set examples.

I say, okay. But Ocho, you remember? They cut that out before you got to the league. The throat-slashing gesture. They cut that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The stick shooter, Bud Johnson would do the same. They cut that out.

Yeah, you can't do that. Anything violent or sexual in nature, Yeah. Yeah. The stick shooter, Bud Johnson would do the, they cut that out. Yeah, you can't do that. Anything, anything violent or sexual in nature, air humping ain't got nothing to do. Ain't nobody ever got pregnant by air humping. Yeah. No dry,

no dry, no dry hunting. But they cut it out. They cut it out. But they cut it out. Yeah. So, Pete fans,

please stop saying because you know the rule. George knows the rules. You can't do that. You know what? And especially outside of knowing the rules, you got to understand and to remember those rules when you engage in war.

At the time of war, when you plan, you got to remember that. All he need to do, I'm telling you, I'm going to talk to him. I'm going to talk to him. I'm going to hit him tomorrow. Bro, you need to take that same energy and the stuff he need to do. I'm telling you, I'm going to talk to him. I'm going to talk to him. I'm going to hit him tomorrow. Good. Bro, you need to take that same energy and the stuff you want to do and turn it into something else in a fun entertainment type of way where it's engaging for us and for those watching where it doesn't cost your team.

There's a way to do it. I mastered that shit. You know, there's a way to do it. You mastered that shit. There's a way to do it. Yes! As far as your player's concerned, man, you good. Keep on playing ball. But what I don't want,

this is what I don't want, because he young. Because he young. So Coach Tomlin has to be careful with what he say because you don't want to lose a player like that. Up here, huh? Up here.

You don't want to take too much. You don't want to pull the reins back too motherfucking hard because you're going to lose what makes George Pickens George Pickens. But you don't want to take too much. You don't want to pull the reins back too motherfucking hard because you're going to lose what makes George Pickens George Pickens. But you can't hurt your team like that, though. You can't. Thank you. You can't.

We just saw this on Thursday with Jamison Williams. We just saw it Thursday when he threw the ball in the guy's face. Remember? On the sideline. We just saw it Ocho even if I'm speeding if I'm going 80 in the school zone I can't tell the folks ain't no kids in school

you can't go 80 in the school in the school zone bro it's still a school zone whether the kids are in school or not you can't make that gesture even if you have no gun even if there is no bullet you can't make that gesture even if you have no gun even if there is no bullet you can't make a sexual gesture you can't make a violent gesture so please chat please people stay off the internet

talking about ain't no gun ain't nobody ever been killed by that because you can't do it right the league says we're going to penalize you but it's not the league penalizing you. You're penalizing your team. Yeah. And it hurts you today, but it catches up to you when it matters most. When you least expect it. Yeah. You get an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. And now what was a field goal, they back you up. Yeah. Because a lot of times

Ocho, that's after the fact. Now, they back you up. What happens if it's second down and you get one of those? The down counts. So now instead of being second and five, it's second and 20. Or it's third and 20. Or it's third and 15. You see?

It's things like that you have to think about in real time. Ocho, it's too late for you and I to have this conversation and say, Ocho, we tried to tell him it's too late. Yeah. it's too late for you and i to have this conversation said oh joe we tried to tell him it's too late yeah it's too late so just learn from others from that have made those mistakes right so you don't have to be a footnote got a costly penalty i i don't. Ocho, but I try to tell you. Now, people will tell you Joe Burrow played great.

Ocho might come out here and tell you Joe Burrow played great. His defense, if your defense is bad, Ocho, as an offense, what can't you do if your defense is bad? You can't turn the ball over, Unc. Tell the people at home how many turnovers Joe Burrow had. Joe Burrow had three turnovers.

But, Bunk, before you say that. How many points did they lead to to the Steelers? 14 or 21. Well, 17. How much? How many? They got a scooping score and they got a field goal right before the half. Right.

That's 10 points, right? Yeah, that's 10. Can I say something real quick? Go ahead. Just for the chat, for better context. Let me get energized real quick you know it's hard for me to defend my bangles it's hard for me to defend my bangles

but for better context in those turnovers now one was a tip Cam Hayward tipped it boom pick scoop and score boom

running with the ball TJ Watt great play and I think it was a high smith it was a high smith that beat Orlando Brown off the edge yeah I don't think it was high it might have been the other guy the other guy I think it was a high Smith it was a high Smith that beat Orlando Brown off the edge came around

I don't think it was high it might have been the other guy I think it was like it might have been 51 Wilson he might have called the sack and scooped it

alright scoop and score listen but one in that scenario Orlando Brown I'm not sure what the Bengals are doing there's no reason why Orlando Brown

should be on the field if he can't walk if you can't walk that means you can't play left tackle there's noando Brown should be on the field if he can't walk. If you can't walk, that means you can't play left tackle. There's no reason you should be on the field. But if you are on the field,

then that's the onus on the offensive line or the goddamn offensive coordinator. Hell, let's slide protection that way because he's not fully healthy. They can't.

We saw it. You're going to slide the protection away from T.J. Watt? Listen, we ain't got no choice. We got to leave Mims over there. We got to leave Mims by itself, one-on-one. Yes, I know. T.J. Watt about to, we ain't got no choice. We got to leave Mims over there. We got to leave Mims by itself, one-on-one.

Yes, I know. T.J. Watt about to break the NFL record. He's going to have a Derek Thomas game. I know what you mean, but you got to, because look what happened.

Look what happened. That cost us. That cost us. Yes! If he's hurt, goddamn fly the protectors to the left, put the running back up there

and goddamn chip, got to put the tight end over there and chip. You got to do something to help him. If you have a player out there that is hurt, and it cost us offensively.

That was a score. But your guy has got to take care of the football. Oh, Joe, you know, if your defense, if your defense, you have one of the two or three worst defense in football.

You can't turn it over. You're right. You're right. There's nothing. Listen, there's nothing I can say. There's nothing I can say about that but it is his blind side though

that is his blind side he has no idea that two seconds after the snap that somebody's barreling down and knocking the ball out of his hands

again you got listen I'm not making no excuses you got to have two hands on the ball yeah you do that hold on so I can make that case

for Daniel Jones all them sacks that ain't on Daniel Jones all those turnovers, every quarterback that turned the ball over because what they're doing is that you're making excuses for Joey B because he had 300 yard passes and three touchdowns.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I ain't made no excuses. I ain't made no excuses. I was just giving you better context on how the fumbles happen. So who cares? Did he have the ball in his hand? Yes, sir. So all those fumbles and interceptions that what you call them. We saw Patrick Mahomes two years ago.

How many caroms that he has seven interceptions and like three or four pick sixes that went through the receiver's hands. Yeah. When you fumble the ball and your defense is bad, all I know is this. Patrick Mahomes got to the Super Bowl with the second or third worst defense

in the NFL. Yeah. That is the bargain. Because what has happened is that we've allowed Joe Burrow, and he's a really good, he's a great quarterback, but we've allowed that one-year run

to taint us because we feel he can do great quarterback. But we've allowed that one-year run to taint us because we feel he can do no wrong. Because every year, he's ranked above Lamar. Lamar is more accomplished than Joe Burrow. We rank him ahead of Josh Allen. He throws a beautiful ball. He puts up big numbers. But at what point in time do we hold him accountable

like we have all the other great quarterbacks that haven't fulfilled the promise of what we expected them accountable like we have all the other great quarterbacks that haven't fulfilled the promise of what we expected them to be. Because we make excuses. We're like, well, his blind side. Man, look at Mahomes offensive line. Is Mahomes offensive line any worse than Cincinnati's?

Them two tackles bad, huh? Them two tackles bad. One team got a 11-1 record. There's no disrespect. Yeah. And so, that's the thing. When you just, if you1 record. And no disrespect. Yeah. And so, and that's the thing. When you just, if you, Ocho,

if you just looked at the stats, you're like, this man threw for 309 and three touchdowns? Mm-hmm. But he had a scooping score that the ball was in his hand. Mm-hmm.

That gave him seven points. And then he had another former that gave him 10 points. Mm-hmm. So now, if I take those 10 points off the board, how many points did they, they scored 44. If I take those 10 points off the board, how many points did they get?

They scored 44. If I take those 10s, Cincinnati scored 38. They win the game, 38-34. Ta-da! Yeah. You right.

You right. Listen, listen, I'm already hurting right now as it is, you know? I don't need you to continue to pour salt in my wounds. I know.

I know, I know. Let me talk about this. I've been on my soapbox all season long. And I've been continuing to let down. I've been continuing to let down. Well, get your ass off it. Get your ass off that box. I'm off of it right now. I'm off of it. You know the higher up you are,

the easier the target you'd hit. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they say. When snipers shooting at you, what are they trying to do? See, when snipers are shooting, they're at a high elevation. Right. But when you show your head,

that's when they can put that bang on you. Yeah, yeah. You better get low to the ground. Get out the box. Yeah. Say, hey, man, I thought my bingo was going to be better this year. It's over for y'all.

You know it's a wrap. Oh, yeah. I thought it was going to be better. Matter of fact, and listen, I was listening to Joe. Joe said we could win seven of the last nine. There's a possibility. So when he said that in front of me, I was hyped.

I was hyped. I was ready. I've been talking cash. You know what? I've been making bets with Ryan Clark. I can't even eat McDonald's until January now. Yes. Yeah, but you know what? And I can't even eat McDonald's till January now. Yes. Yeah, but you know what?

And you can't say football till January. Why? Oh, because we lost? You lost like five in a row. Yeah. Now you just lose. So you say I can't say foot or ball because my baby...

Foot or ball. Nope. Nope. Nope. Ocho. Even you, Ocho, you playing the game. I said, Ocho, how y'all going to go out on a run when your defense is historically bad? Your quarterback literally has to play a perfect game every time.

One turnover because, first of all, your defense is not really going to be able to stop anybody. Now, you turn the ball over, you give them and if you give them points on your possession, oh, don't cry. No, don't cry.

No, don't cry. You ain't crying yet, Chad. Don't let it fool you. You should be crying. Sorry.. Don't let it fool you. You should be crying. Sorry. We going to be all right. No, y'all ain't. We going to be all right. Next year?

Y'all ain't going to be all right this year. Amen. You don't got no people. You have people in Cincinnati believing you. Man, Ocho say we going to be all right. Not everybody. Not everybody. Ain't doing nothing but eating chilling

hot dogs. Stand up. Stand up in your chair. Come closer. You blurry. You blurry. No, no, no. You bring your hands back into focus. Y'all got Ocho crying. Bengal, what y'all? Bengal Nation, Bengal Country, what y'all are

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You can talk your ass off. I ain't finna listen. We didn't come here for that. Hold on. I'm trying to laugh and keep from crying. We didn't come here for that. Hold on. I'm trying to laugh and keep from crying. Let's change the topic, man. Shoot, man. No, we ain't finna change no topic.

That ain't what we do. We don't duck no chat. Do y'all expect NICAP to duck a topic? Do y'all expect us to move on so quickly? No. Lester, we got to address it. Your defense is historically bad. They've been bad. But if you go back and look

at it, the Bengals had Kansas City dead to right. What happened? Strip sack, scoop and score. Touchdown. They had the Ravens, again, dead to right at home. What happened, Ocho?

Joey B, pick. Marlon Humphrey. Yeah. At some point in time, even your great numbers can be overshadowed if you are the one that puts the ball in harm's way. Yeah. He's done it. We've seen it. But nobody, everybody just wants to look at the stats.

Oh, he played great. What about those three turnovers that gave the other team the football or gave the other team points? Do we not count that? We count it for everybody else. We rip quarterbacks that turn the ball over. At the end of the day, it's his responsibility to take care of the football so it's greater player as he is right so so basically all this is saying to me is is joe burrow is going to basically have

to do he has to he has to put on the superman cape because our defense is playing so bad right he has to do what shallon is doing if j Josh Allen can do it and he can overcome himself and not make the mistakes he made in the past and has his team playing the way he has them playing Joe Burrow has to do the same thing and he has to do it with a much better supporting cast offensively yeah hold on it sounds easy

but it's not easy to do Josh Allen makes it look easy but it's not easy to do but I understand where you're coming from but it's not easy to do. Josh Allen makes it look easy but it's not easy to do. But I understand where you're coming from. I remember when Peyton Manning had those bad defenses in Indy. Oh my goodness. And even

he was putting up those numbers. Oh, Peyton Manning can't get it done in the big game. Peyton Manning, yada, yada, yada. Even though his defense was historically bad. Y'all didn't make the excuses for Peyton that you make for Joe Burrow. And I just need to know why.

Yeah. I got time. I took me a nap today, Ocho. I got time. Yeah, I know you got time. I took a nap today, too. I took a nap today. You were good.

I need you to tell me why. Why is Joe Burrow getting a pass? We never gave Peyton a pass. I didn't give him a pass. I said he didnton a pass. I didn't give him a pass. I said he didn't play well. I said he didn't play well. Now, when you said about the three turnovers, I just wanted to add a little context on the turnover,

just say they weren't all his fault. But on the stat sheet, guess whose name is by them turnovers? Ocho. Yeah. Hold on. When have we not given a strip sack to the quarterback? Because the ball's in his hands. You hear what I just said? I just said when we look at the staff sheet, who are the turnovers on?

Whose name is there? The quarterback. Yeah. I know. I'm just saying. I was just trying to give a little context on what happened or whatnot. But he didn't play. He didn't play as well as he needs to play. Joe Burrow needs to understand. And I'm sure he understands. And he will have this conversation with his head coach, with his officer coordinator, and with his quarterback coach. You have to protect the ball. You have to. In order for us to even have a chance to win going on from this season and later on in the future, you have to be the best at protecting

the ball and not turning it over. because if our defense is not playing as well or playing the way they played this year, at any point, there is no way for us to overcome those. Zero. No way for us to overcome those mistakes. And we're not finna move on because I'm not finna let you do this to Russ. And Russ, you trust.

You say you love Russ. I do. Well, let's give Russ some flowers. I love Russ. I was the only one standing on the soapbox for Russ too now. Don't do that. You work. You say you love Russ. I do. Well, let's give Russ some flowers. I love Russ. I was the only one standing on the soapbox for Russ too now. Don't do that. You were. Yeah.

Russ, 29 of 38, 414, which is a career high, three touchdowns, one pick. He was sensational today. Yes, he was. His career high. He knew, like, look, as good as our defense is, their offense is going to score. It is incumbent

upon me as the quarterback and one of the leaders of this where he is the de facto leader on offense. Right, right. Oh, we can have our way with these guys, boys. Yeah. And think about it, Ocho.

You did get seven from Britt. The guy that picked six early. That thing was nice. That thing was nice. That was good. Listen, boom, pointed attack. Nice little jam. Boom.

Eyes on the ball. Oh, we going the other way. I ski. I ski. Let's go. Yeah. That was right. I thought, listen, after that play play I thought we was going to run away

with the game yeah that was a good and I remember do y'all remember when Peyton Manning was losing to Tom Brady oh he'll never beat Tom

and Peyton was winning MVP yeah but Tom was winning Super Bowls he wasn't putting up numbers like Peyton but he was winning

oh Tom Peyton will never win I remember he got beat 41-0 by Chad Pennington he got beat by Billy Bowling oh they were just ripping Peyton would never win. I remember he got beat 41-0 by Chad Pennington. He got beat by Billy Bowling. Oh, they were just ripping Peyton. Yeah. Ripping him.

His defense weren't very good. He's putting up, even his owner, when Peyton talk about, I don't, I won't, I don't want, I won't championships. I don't want no Star Wars numbers. Because he feel that Peyton underperformed. Right. And now, and Peyton, go back and look at Peyton numbers. That man won four MVPs.

Yeah. And all of them wasn't in no Super Bowl season. Mm-hmm. Fans, media alike, killed him. Me too. I was one of them. Yep. Me too.

Yep. Go back and look at what I was on CBS. Right. Beat him up. Me too. Yep. Go back and look at what I was on CBS. Right. Beat him up. Everybody did. But now, well, Shannon, his defense, y'all didn't say that when Peyton had a bad defense. Right. Y'all just said

he couldn't stand up to Tom Brady. He lost the Super Bowl. Go look at Peyton's numbers in the Super Bowl. But he had that one pick six, Tracy Porter, read it right. They came with a zero blitz. He undercut the under route and he peaced them out. Y'all got to stop this.

Y'all got very, very short memories. But what I'm seeing, what I'm seeing, if we like somebody, we'll make every excuse in the world for it. I don't give a damn

what he does or what he or she does if we like you. But I'm going to call it straight down the middle. Y'all know how I am. Now, y'all get on me and say, Shannon, yes, I do. Y'all know I do. Go back and check my track record at CBS if y'all don't think I call it down the middle.

Me too. Me too. I call it down the middle too. Me too. Me too. Yeah, check my track record. Russ, put five seconds. Russ, hey. Yeah. See, check my track record. Russ, boss him.

Hey, guys, when people y'all keep saying, get that man his flowers, don't give me my flowers. I'll plant my own damn garden. I'll grow my own damn flowers. Wait, hold on. I'm tired of y'all. Y'all don't want to get

people. Russ, plant your own damn flowers. Grow your own garden. Hold on. And pluck your own flowers and put them on display. I don't need nobody. Don't give me no more flowers. I don't want them. I got my own garden growing.

I'm on the road. I'm on the road, but I got a notepad. Hey, I don't need y'all to give me my flowers. What did you say? Plant my own? I'm going to plant and grow my own damn flowers. I'm finna, what'd you say, plant my own? I'm going to plant and grow my own damn flowers. No, my own garden. You said my own garden.

Whatever you want. You want roses? You want daisies? You want lilies? You want petunias? You want poinsettias? You know what I want? I want tulips. I want tulips. Grow your own. Yeah, I saw the movie Stormy Weather and Lena Horne, she liked tulips. Bam! Grow your own! Yeah, I saw the movie Stormy Weather

and Lena Horne, she liked tulips. So I'm going to give me some motherfucking tulips. Russ, listen. Russ is in the ideal situation. He's with a coach that understands quarterbacks. Not that he can coach them, but

he understands the psyche of a quarterback. Yes, sir. And the one thing you can't do with a quarterback is beat him up mentally. And I think Sean Payton beat him up mentally. For whatever reason, Sean never embraced Russ. No. He never gave, he tolerated him. He's like, I got a year with him, and I'm not so sure that Russ could have done anything

other than going to the Super Bowl that would have ingratiated himself with Sean Payton. Sean Payton has a guy now, and he has a young guy. And young guys, for the most part, Ocho, they're happy to be there, even though they're first-round pick, and they can stomach a little more. Russ is a vet. Russ has been to Super Bowls. Russ is a multiple-time Pro Bowl player. He's like, why are you talking to me like that?

Yeah. What? Hey, one... He's been... Okay, go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, no, go ahead. I was going to say, for those that have been watching,

obviously, you know, because you got on me about it, is I've been giving Russ's flowers for a very long time. Even when he was in Denver, you know, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you, you, you, that has played well at a high level for so many years and all of a sudden can go to Denver and things just weren't right. I think the situation and the scenario that he was in and the pressure that Sean Payton, who kept challenging him,

berating him as a head coach, I just knew that wasn't the right fit. And I understood. Once he got over there with the Steelers, I said it. As soon as he got there, I said, man, this is perfect. He's going with the right coach, the right type of coach. Yes. Winning coach

with the right mentality that knows how to deal with him. And Arthur Smith has put Russell Wilson in some great positions and understanding his strengths and his weaknesses, knowing what he can do

and what he can't do anymore than he used to do in Seattle. And he's been paying dividends off of him, man. And it's been perfect. It's been perfect. Yeah, he's been, look, he's been good. I don't know if he would have ever been what he is right now in Denver with Sean Payton.

Look, that first year, we got to chalk that up because ain't nobody been good under Nathaniel Hackett. Ain't nobody. He got fired in Denver, and he lost his play calling duties in Green Bay. I mean, excuse me, in the Jets. So nobody. So we can't say, you know what, Russ, we're going to just – that first year, now whatever happened with you, like I said,

I don't know, but it just seems like he was never egratiated. Right, right. Sean didn't put his arms around him. It's like, I'm happy to have you as my quarterback for whatever reasons. And it was best that they go, you go your way, I go mine. And we're both better for it.

The Broncos are doing quite well. The Pittsburgh Steelers are leading their division. They're doing extremely well. And I'm happy for both because this match wasn't going to work in Denver. Not Russ and Sean Payton. Maybe it was with somebody else, but not that.

But Russ needed to go and get built back up again. Yeah. He had to start from scratch. He had to start from scratch. He had to start from scratch. And what better place to go than with Mike Tomlin, who's on firm soil, firm footing. He has a firm foundation. He ain't going nowhere.

Nah. He ain't going nowhere. And so, the Bengals allowed 520 yards. Okay, okay, okay. They surrendered 44 points. 7 came on the strip sack. That was turned for a touchdown high. Okay, okay, okay. They surrendered 44 points. Those seven came on the strip sack

that was turned for a touchdown. Ocho, check this out. Yeah. The Bengals are the first team in NFL history to lose four games

or more when scoring at least 33 points in a game. You just gonna, you gonna pour it on all night, huh? No, no, I'm just saying,

I'm just saying. I just think you gonna pour it on. We lost the game. Okay. I done shed tears and all about my team losing. I've been vulnerable. I'm letting the world show that I'm vulnerable and how much this shit means to me.

And you're just going to continue to pour on and just take the gasoline, right? You're going to take the gasoline and pour it on the fire anyway. No, we're done with it then. Okay, I'm going to move on to the Texans and the Jags. No, go ahead and finish. Go ahead and finish. Go ahead and finish. No, we're done with that. Just give it to me. We done got all we could at that point. Look, let me tell you what I did. Okay, I'm going to move on to the Texas and the Jags. Nah, go ahead. Go ahead and finish. No, we done with that.

Just give it to me. We done got all we could at that horse. Let me tell you what I did. Nail me to the cross. Go ahead. Look, okay, we had a horse. He was a racehorse. We won as many races as we could, and then we turned him into a plow horse. We put him in the fields. So, okay,

now he can't plow anymore. Now ain't nothing left for him to do we either eat him or we turn him into glue but we've got all we can out of this we've gotten all we could out of this horse chat so now we're gonna go someplace else okay okay The volume. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.

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