Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Ken Griffey Jr., Chiefs remain undefeated, Dodgers World Series

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by MLB Hall of Famer Ken Griffey Jr to discuss Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and the undefeated Kansas City Chiefs improving to 8-0 with a 30-24 win in OT against Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Monday Night Football. Later, Unc, Ocho and Ken dive into the difficulty of the transition from college sports to pro sports, what it was like for Ken to play with his dad and what it means for Los Angeles Lakers LeBron and Bronny James to play together, Shohei Ohtani and the Los Angeles Dodgers beating the New York Yankees in the World Series and much more!03:13 - Show Start03:52 - Intro05:37 - Ken Griffey Jr intro06:16 - Bucs lose to Chiefs53:44 - Dak to miss multiple weeks01:03:00 - Christian McCaffrey returns01:04:55 - Saints fire coach(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I called his ass last week. I said, man, what time you go to bed? He's like, his wife is named Melissa. Melissa, she had to ask me what time I go to bed. What bed? So he stays up till late. So we have him join us. He's on the East Coast.

Y'all know who he is he's an mvp he's a 13-time all-star three-time home run derby champ a 10-time globe gold glove winner a seven-time silver slugger winner and and one of the greatest baseball players of all time my good friend ken griffey jr, what it do? What's going on? I'm good, man. We're looking at the back. You got all the gold gloves up there. Is one missing? It's up there. It's just on top.

The first one, people want to touch them. You got to have one out for them. Yeah. Yeah. I keep them up there. Thanks for joining us, Grip. Let's get to what we just saw.

We watched the Kansas City Chiefs remain unbeaten, the only unbeaten team in the NFL. Patrick Mahomes, 34-44, 291, three touchdowns. Kareem Hunt, 27 carries, a buck-oh-six, the game-winning touchdown. Travis Kelsey had 14 catches, 100 yards. D-Hop, eight for 86, two touchdowns. Ocho, you and I talked about this last week, that he was going to get even more involved this week.

Andy Reid said he was going to get him more involved. In overtime, he wanted him to do what Travis Kelsey did against Buffalo. There's nobody over him. He wanted him to belly, and Patrick was going to put the ball on him, Ocho. But he hadn't been there a while. He doesn't know that. So he's running what he would probably run in any other offense. Ocho, when you watched this game last night,

what did you like most about what you saw from the Chiefs in pulling out this victory? Listen, for one, what I like most about the Chiefs, I want to mention DeHop first. I want to mention DeHop first and being there for a week and a half or whatever it may be. Obviously, last week he had two catches. He wasn't a part of the offense just yet.

But DeHop today looked like the DeHop of all. He had eight for 86. He was able to get open. And it seemed like he's finding a nice rhythm and chemistry, obviously, with Patrick Mahomes outside of that play that you're talking about. The Chiefs always find a goddamn way to win, Unc. I don't understand. I don't know what's going on.

A lot of people always complain, or the rest are on their side, or the calls that they always get are always timely and always in their favor. But Patrick Mahomes is special, Unc, because when it matters most, he always finds a way to come through and make the plays that matter most in the most opportune times when it counts.

And that's what I saw again from him tonight. Griff, you watched this game in its entirety. You're a big football fan. What did you like? What did you like about the Chiefs? Because the Bucs gave them all they can handle. Give Baker Mayfield credit. Ocho, they're down a touchdown, under two minutes to go.

He leads them down the field, tie the ball game up. You know, you go to overtime, and a lot of times, whoever gets the ball first. And Kansas City got the ball first, and the rest, as we say, is history. Griff, what did you like about what you saw in this game? It's unbelievable. I mean, Patrick, you can't say enough of him. I mean, he's just phenomenal.

You know, what I do like is the maturity level that Baker has shown over the years. I mean, he's come a long way from, you know, Oklahoma to now. I mean, that's the most impressive thing that I saw is how he's adapted to being a professional now compared to that college life. But, you know, that team is well-oiled. And they're a lot of fun to watch, you know, 7-0. I mean, it's just, what can you say? I mean, they're a team that you got to prepare for day in and day out. You know, you're hoping that they get a bye week

so they get a little rusty. But it don't look like they're going to get rusty anytime soon. Yeah, you look at them, Ocho, and Griff, the two in-season acquisitions. They get Kareem Hunt. They lose Pacheco. Kareem Hunt gives them the balance in the run game. They go down a couple of receivers. They go out and make the trade for DeHop.

That's teams that say we're going for it. A lot of teams talk about, oh, we're trying to win and we're going to go for it. But we don't see the moves that they make to show us that they're going for it. Kansas City Chiefs, they're going for it. I don't believe they're done. I believe they're going to try to add another piece, Ocho, because they say, look, I think they're going to try to add a corner

because they want to shore up that side. Because if you notice tonight, there wasn't a whole lot of pressure. You know, Spags like to bring pressure. And you can bring pressure if you got two dogs on the edge. Remember they had Snead last year? McDuffie? McDuffie is as good as we have in this league at the corner position.

So I don't believe the Chiefs are done yet. Well, tomorrow we'll find out if they're done or not. But a lot of teams talk about it. The Kansas City Chiefs be about it. They are about it. I like what I saw with uh give tampa credit now obviously they ended up losing the game but i agree with you griff if you look at what he was in college um he didn't in cleveland um but he's found a home now um he had a short standing

carolina for whatever reason that didn't work out the rams we knew that wasn't going to work out that was only because he was there because Stafford got injured. And so we know he wasn't going to unseat Stafford. But to go to Tampa, find a home, he had two quality receivers, although both of them are out for the time being. Chris Godwin is out for the season. We don't know when Mike Evans is coming back. Maybe in a couple of weeks he tweaked that hamstring again.

But they have a solid team. They have a solid team. Atlanta seems to be the cream of that division right now, Ocho. Because they're good offensively, defensively. They can throw the football. They got a nice running game with Bijan Robertson and Algier. But right now,

the Kansas City Chiefs at 8-0, everybody's like, who is going to be the team to knock them off? Somebody's got to knock them off somebody somebody got to knock them off at some point and what i think the chiefs want to do is you want to taste defeat a little early you want to taste defeat a little early so it doesn't happen later on especially in the goddamn playoffs i know it's one thing you think about um the patriots when they had their undefeated season yeah i'm not i'm not sure the Chiefs are built that way offensively

to actually go undefeated and beat everybody that's on the remainder of the schedule. But I think that you want to get a loss. You want to get that taste, that sour taste out your mouth and get one out the way. But, dog, I have a question for you. As a matter of fact, I have a question for you and Griff. Who do you think is playing better now at the quarterback position?

Lamar Jackson. Now, both of them are getting it done in a different way. Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes? Well, if you look at the totality for the entirety of the game, it's Lamar and Jerry Goff is playing better than Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes played well in moments. When it's a moment, it's kind of like, Griffey, you could equate this, like a guy might be struggling at the plate,

but he come out with runners in scoring position, and it's the bottom of the ninth or the eighth inning, and he gets a hit, he drives into or he drives it over the fence. That's what Mahomes, Mahomes is a big game hunter. You know the bigger the game, the better he's going to play, the bigger the game, the better he's going to play. The bigger the moment, the better he's going to play. And he's the one guy you trust because he's been in more of those moments than all the other quarterbacks combined in the NFL.

Once Tom Brady left, nobody has been in bigger moments, came up that big in bigger moments than one Patrick Mahomes. Griff, what do you like about what you see from Mahomes when you see him in moments like that? Well, I mean, you know, big-time players go to big-time situations and they produce, and that's the key. I mean, you know, his track record speaks for himself. He goes on there.

Like you said, sometimes he gets a little quirky sometimes, but for the most part, when it's time to lock in, he gets locked in. And you want that. And you want that from, you know, your leaders in your team. And in baseball, the same way. I mean, we got guys that, you know, are streaky. But that guy that comes in and they know he owns them, it's a different at bat. You can see how he walked to the plate.

He got a whole different swag, too. You know, because sometimes, you know, he walks to the plate, it's a different at bat. You can see how he walked to the plate. He got a whole different swag, too. Because sometimes he walks to the plate, he's like, I got to face this guy. And then all of a sudden they bring in somebody, and he knows he's like 8 for 14 against him. He got a whole new approach. And sometimes you need that. And Patrick, like I said, he's phenomenal.

I mean, it was a lot of fun to watch the game, especially at the end when he said, win it. I mean, that's what you want. It ain't about time. He said, I want to win it. So we're going to win it. And that's what you want from your leaders. Griff, let's try to equate this.

Like, you see Kansas City, they're going for the three-peat. And we see some of the moves that they've made. They bring in a DeHop. They bring in a Kareem Hunt. And the trade deadline is tomorrow. And I don't believe they're going for the three-peat, and we see some of the moves that they've made. They bring in a DeHop, they bring in a Kareem Hunt, and the trade deadline is tomorrow, and I don't believe they're done. I still believe they're going to try to go out and get a number one corner to pair alongside

Trent McDuffie. When you were playing baseball, and you were on teams, and they were like, okay, we're going for it. Were you like, were there a particular player out there that you thought might be available that you guys can break in when you had those great teams in seattle when you and a rod and edgar martinez and you had randy johnson were you like man if we just have if we need a if we

had one more bat or we had one more pitcher or we had a setup man or we had a closer did you like guys go get somebody? You know, the teams that want to win are going to do it. I mean, as a player, and I speak from a player's standpoint right now, when you see an ownership go out and get somebody to help your ball club, it

not only energizes the players, it energizes the whole locker room, energizes the front office, and also energizes the fans who are going to the front office and also energizes the fans who gonna you know and they're the ones paying the money to come see you play so for me when they go out and get a player you know i was a hired gun uh one time in my career i went from cincinnati to uh chicago and uh you know just to get into the locker room and the guys, you know, thanking me and stuff like that. And, you know, it's an unbelievable feeling.

But also, you know, you still got to go do a job. And, you know, it's on the job training because, you know, you talk about Hop, how he had been there a week. You know, and I looked at an NFL playbook and I was like, oh, no. No, no, no, no. Cover two, cover three. Did you do this? The route tree up over there? Like, no, just I want to be a running back.

Just open the hole. Let me run. Yeah, Griff, you don't have all the. Let me ask you this, Griff. When you go to the plate, you know this picture because at this point in time, for the most part, after about five or six years in the league, obviously there are pitchers coming in, pitchers coming in every single year. But you're very familiar with a lot of guys, what they

like to throw. They like to throw you away. They like to high and tight you. They got a slider. They got a curve. They got a slurred ball. They got a knuckle change, a cut, or whatever the case may be. When you go up there, let's just say you're facing Greg Maddox or Tommy Glavinavin what are you thinking what am i thinking well i hit a ball out in 1992 in the all-star game against mad dog

and i didn't see that pitch again he never threw it to me again uh you know great great pitchers and great hitters don't forget things uh you know, we just, we're built like that. You know, guys that come in and throw certain pitches, but a lot of it has to do with situations. You know, guy on first base, I'm lefty. I'm trying to hit a ball in the hole. Guy on second, I'm still trying to get him over, but I'm not giving up and at bat.

Guy on third with less than two outs, I'm trying to drive him in. You know, fundamental baseball, because I came up as the number two hit outs. I'm trying to drive men. Fundamental baseball, because I came up as the number two hitter. I batted second, so I had to do all the little things. Then I went to fifth. They were like, we're going to teach you how to drive in runs. So I learned to drive in runs. Then they stuck me in third. Once

I got to third, I was like, oh, this is where I belong. But a year and a half of going through, you know, batting second, batting fifth,

learning the game. And people don't understand learning the game is not something that is very easy. You know, going from college, you guys to pros,

it's a whole different animal. And same thing in baseball. You know, you got one guy that's, you know, throwing 95 in. Same thing in baseball. You got one guy that's throwing 95 in A ball. You've got 20 guys on the staff,

13 guys just throwing the same thing. All of them have different release points and things, but you've just got to sit there and study. We can break it down to how many breaths a guy takes before he throws his fastball. Does he inhale or exhale? You know, just like you guys,

you know, offensive linemen, if his knuckles is a certain way, it's a run. It's a run. If I see pressure, yeah, I see pressure. It's a run. Yeah. I mean, so, you know, we look at the same thing. The fine details make you successful. You know, a guy that can go from the stretch, if he comes set and his glove is above his chest,

and he's throwing a certain pitch. If it's down low, he's throwing another pitch. And you just watch. And a couple years ago, a Atlanta pitcher was pitching, and I called 15 straight pitches from my couch because I could see it. And that's what you got to do. If you want to be successful, you know, I call 15 straight pitches from my couch because I can see it. You know, and that's what you got to do. If you want to be successful, you got to study. You got to do it day in and day out. It's just not you just show up at the ballpark. They tell you what's going on. No, you got to learn the fine details of your craft.

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To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So you're saying if you bet, so you have to change. So if you bet lead off, you have to do a certain thing because as a leadoff hitter, you're trying to get on base. As a two, you're trying to push the leadoff to second or get him to third. If you can drive him in, you drive him in. Third, maybe you got two guys. So basically, the top five batters all have a different task, but they're trying to do the same thing.

Yeah, we all have different jobs. You look at a leadoff hitter, his job is to make sure that number three and number four see enough pitches. So he may take a ball right down the middle. So the guys can get their timing to hit. Because guys, what are we looking at? How's his changeup? If he can't throw his changeup over for a strike, we ain't swinging at it. So we got to learn these things.

Nowadays, the guys, 20 home runs would get you paid. Back then, guys weren't thinking about 20 home runs. When I came up, my dad hit 22. I thought I was going to be just like him. When I hit 22 home runs, I literally called him and was like, I tied you.

That was a big moment for me because I was like, that's, you know, I patterned my game after my dad. And, you know, that was the fun part. And he said, you're going to hit way more home runs than I am. You're going to drive in more runs than I am. And I'm looking at him like, you know, because sometimes you look at dad like this. You know, when you know. But, you know, sometimes, you know know as you get older you start to understand dad does know what he's talking about you know we just we just gotta uh believe in him sometimes

right griff i mean you was telling me the story when i had you on the pod way back when you said like a lot of times when your dad would come like when your dad wasn't there you driving the ball over the rvs like 400 feet away. Your mom watches you. There's no pressure. Soon as your dad comes, you're like, your dad told your mom one time, I thought you said this boy could hit.

He literally said, is he good? Every time I see him, he does nothing. I just, you know, like, people forget that every Saturday, you know, my dad's still playing, so I didn't see him. So I wanted, you know, that father approval.

You know, I'm trying to hit the ball country mile, and I'm swinging as hard as I can, popping it up, swinging and missing. He was with the Braves one time, and he came in, and I went 0 for 2. I popped up to the catch, swinging and missing. He was with the Braves one time and he came in and I went 0 for 2. I popped up to the catcher and struck out. And then I drove to the ballpark. He said, how did you do? I said, I went 3 for 5,

2 home runs and a double. He said, you got to do that when I'm there? I said, I don't know. And then finally I got a hit in A ball, in the instructional way. And he was in an RV in left field. He slides the window open and said, now, was that so bad?

And shut it and drove off. And from that point on, I was good. You know, I got my first hit. And that's all you really, it's like you have to break the ice. But for a while, I was a defensive specialist when he was at the game. I could go get him with the best of them,

but I couldn't hit water if I fell out of a boat when he was sitting there. Even my high school coach told my dad, hey, you might not want to show up. He can't play in front of you. Hey, Griff, at what point did the game slow down to you? Like, if you ever watch you come to the plate, for those that have watched the game of baseball and watched you play over the years, there was a certain calm and relaxness to you and confidence when you came to the plate obviously

you're known for having the most beautiful swing in the game in baseball of all goddamn time at what point did the game slow down to you when you had that confidence when you knew you had it and you finally had arrived uh well i've always had it uh but that's because I believe in myself but it was on the job training you're learning so much, how to be a pro the travel I'm in a hotel

82 days figuring out I can't rent a car, I can't do nothing because I'm 19 I gotta rely on things so it took me probably a year and a half. And then I really settled down when my dad was playing with me because then I could see what was going on. I could see him set up pictures. I could see him do certain things. And I'm like, that's what you do. And it really stuck. I mean, if you look at a hit 264, my first year, like 300, my second and like 327, my third year. But it was finally I was like, OK, now I understand what this man has been telling me over the phone. Were you were you always a lefty or did your dad say, I think it's best if you're going to be a baseball player to be a lefty or did your dad say I think it's best if you're going to be a baseball player to be a lefty

no I was always lefty I write right handed and kick right footed that's what I know but my household is so confused I mean my wife is right but she plays soccer on the left side.

She still plays soccer, old Joe. Yeah, for real? Yeah, she plays on the color team every Sunday. My daughter is right-handed, right-handed, but she hits cross-handed. So she grabs the bat like a lefty and stands in a right-hander's batter's box, which Hank Aaron started out like that. My youngest, Tevin, he's left, but hits right.

And Trey is right-handed and hits left. I told you we got to confuse household. And you should see us on game day too, because none of us have the same favorite team. So, boy, hey, so y'all are very upset at each other, because whoever's winning, day too because none of us have the same favorite team. So, boy, hey. Y'all are very upset at each other because whoever's winning,

that's normally not your team. But it's fun because you got a whole bunch of jerseys on and somebody's always had somebody to root for. Oh, yeah, especially. Well, you've been giving my team some grief.

I'm an old school Cowboy fan. You know, my uncle went to high school. Oh, man. Come on, Greg. Hold on, man. Let me say this. My uncle went to high school with Tony Dorsett. Okay.

So I go way back. Yeah. Yeah. My youngest is a Michael Vick fan. He was a left-handed quarterback. Trey is a Raven Vick fan. He was a left-handed quarterback. Trey is a Ravens fan. Okay.

Because Willis McGahee, Ed Reed, and Ray Lewis all went to Miami, so he grew up watching them. My wife is from Seattle, so she's a Seattle fan. And my daughter is a Carolina Panther fan because her favorite person, hold on, is Steve Smith. Okay, Smitty. Yeah, like he can rob a bank and she's like, he ain't do it. He can't do nothing wrong in her eyes.

But it's fun. I mean, but if we play each other, we don't even talk until after the game. If our teams play each other, we don't talk until after the game. And we get something to eat and talk about it. And one person usually does the talking.

That's the person who won that day. But it's fun. I mean, you know, I let everybody be individuals and that's it. Griff, you had a very unique situation. Your dad played long enough. He played well enough to be in the league when you got there. You see LeBron play long enough, play well enough to be in the league when you got there. You see LeBron play long enough, play well enough to be in the league while

his son came up. What advice would you, if you could give, I don't know if you've talked to him, but what advice would you give Bronny, playing alongside his dad, being in the league with his dad? You're going to learn a lot by being able to sit there and be on the bench watching him.

You know, people go, oh, he needs to go to the G League. He needs this. He needs that. I tell you what, I learned more sitting there watching my dad than anything. You look at all these quarterbacks who sat behind somebody and how good they ended up becoming. They didn't play. They got to sit there and learn a system, learn how to be a professional, learn how to take notes, how to watch film and do all these things to become a pro and to go out there and be successful. Nowadays, these kids, first round picks, they throw them right in the fire. And I feel sometimes these kids can't read a cover two or a cover three or read where the protection needs to be. And you see that every day.

You guys sit there and pick out that stuff. But I did tell Bronny, just, hey, relax, enjoy it, be you. You're not going to be him. Nobody's him. And the same thing, I feel like my dad told me when I got there, he said, this is your team.

I'm just here. And he was dad at the ballpark. I mean, excuse me, dad at the house and team at the ballpark. But like I said, there are times where I rode home with mom. It was much safer. Griff, having played the game as long as you played,

you've seen some great hitters. You were in the league with Tony Gwynn. I think you were in the league when Wade Boggs was winning batting titles in the AL. Tony was winning 1-7, I think 7 in the National League. What makes Shohei Ohtani so special? He has no weaknesses. None?

You know, he's a guy that if you throw it away, he's going to take it that way. And when you have power to all fields, that makes you a dangerous hitter. Yes. And that's the key. He has power everywhere. He go to grown man territory, which is straight center.

He can take you out, down the lines, each line. He also can steal a bag when you need it. He does things that you look at and go, he's all right. As my friend said, he's going to be all right. He's one of those guys.

He's a tall, slender kid that can flat out play. And he knows the game of baseball. The thing about playing in Japan is that's their pastime. They don't have no thing. They ain't got a basketball team, a football team. Even though they play those sports, they go out and that baseball is it. And you got to be a monster come over from leaving there and coming over here. And you look at every player that's come over here.

They can flat play. Yeah. Hey, Deke, Matt, Sui, Godzilla, Hideo, no. Ichiro. Yeah, Ichiro. Ichiro, he's one of the two players to win the MVP in his rookie season he and Fred Lynn did you play

you played with Ichiro right yeah it was fun to watch watching a guy who can hit the ball a mile and bat in practice and all of a sudden he just fell in to death but if you throw one in the loop zone he gonna take you out and batting practice, and all of a sudden he just fell in to death.

But if you throw one in the loop zone, he's going to take you out. He's one of those guys that he gets on the base and causes havoc. We say it's baseball. It's not home run ball. You've got to get on base. Making left-hand turns is what you want to do. I don't want to make no right.

You're going to make it through the dugout, huh. I don't want to make no right. You know, I'll tell everybody. Head back to the dugout, huh? Yeah, I don't want to make a right-hand turn. I tell everybody, I'm NASCAR on Luke. I want to make lefts, and that's it. Griff, Ocho, I don't know if you know this, but Griff, you went to Cincinnati Moeller, and Moeller was a powerhouse back in the 80s, early 90s. They were a powerhouse.

Did you play football? You played football, right? Yeah, I got a state championship in football. What position you were on, Drip? Wide receiver. I'm going to tell you, I wore number two. Okay. Y'all were talking about Drip.

Because 88 was too big. In order to wear that single digits digit you had to be that boy now no i was just small then i was just a tag bigger than a kicker when when did you when did you decide because obviously going number one overall in baseball you have to make a decision when did you make the decision say you know what i'm gonna stick i'm gonna and I'm going to give up? Did you play basketball? Did you play any other sports? I didn't play basketball in high school. I played it in

junior high. But basketball, football ran into basketball season and then baseball ran into basketball season. So I was like, well, I'll just play too. After my junior year, all the talk started that I could be the first pick or one of the first three.

And my dad said, hey, if you go in the first three rounds, you can go pro. I mean, yeah, go pro. But if you're not, then you're going to college. But after about a month of them talking to my dad, he was like, he ain't going to last long. He's really that good. But the funny thing is they never told me. They let me be a kid. Go out there, play baseball, not worry about anything.

I didn't find out all these conversations until I literally was sitting there at 23 years old, sitting on the couch. And Bobby Tolan was like, yeah, remember that conversation that I said we were going to draft you? I was like, yeah, I didn't think y'all were. And they said, we're Seattle. I said, we're Seattle, dad. Because the only thing I knew about Seattle was that Bobby Brown, the baseball player, got traded from the Yankees to Seattle.

And I was like, I had no idea where that was. Because he was like, hey, you're just a kid. Go play. Have some fun. This is my job, not yours. And I think people look at it and go, you know, because my dad played, then I'm supposed to be in the locker room. I'm supposed to do all these things. My dad was like, no, this is my job. And you be a kid.

Go out there and have some fun. So I didn't worry about, you know, anything else besides being a kid at 15, 16, 17. Are you surprised how poorly your Cowboys are playing? You just going to bring that up. I figured I'd sneak that in before we got you out of here, Grif. We got to sneak that in. You didn't have to do that. Yeah, man, why'd he do that? You know, you out of here, Griff. We got to sneak that in. You just have to do that. Yeah, man. Why he do that?

We was having a good conversation. It was a great conversation. It was a great conversation. Y'all three and five, Griff. I don't know if you noticed that. Y'all three and five. Yeah, I know that. Yeah, yeah.

You know, Dak is out too now. You know that. Yeah, I know that too. Look, when my team wins, nobody call me. But when that. Yeah, I know that too. Look, when my team wins, nobody call me. But when my team lose, my phone light up like a Christmas tree. Well, y'all don't win. Y'all don't win

off the grill. Hey, look, come on. I call you to say hello. Here it is. You know injuries is part of the game. Yes. And, you know, we've had some pretty big injuries to some key players that you sometimes can't replace.

I don't care who they are that you got back there. Sometimes you look at it and just shake your head. A snake-bitten team. I just want for the guys as a fan, I want the guys to walk off the field healthy each and every day. I don't like to see any cards coming out.

Really, I could care less who wins or loses. I like to see a good game. And lately, there hadn't been any good games. Not with your Cowboys. See, you just don't keep going. Okay, how about this were you surprised how easily the Dodgers made this World Series look

because I think most people thought it would go seven games and you look at it I mean it's not often grip that you get a World Series and you got the two best players you got the best player in America League and Judge you got the best player in the National League and Otani but you know you go Mookie Betts who's a former MVP you go Freddie Freeman who's a former MVP. You go Freddie Freeman, who's a former

MVP for the Dodgers, and then you go Soto. You got good players from top to bottom. Are you surprised how easy the Dodgers made it look? I think what happened is when they played the Padres, when the Dodgers played the Padres, that was like their World Series.

Because that team played them pretty tough. The Yankees had a little easier route to the World Series, but you still got to beat these teams. You know, I felt that the Dodgers and Yankees pitching staff were pretty equal. I told everybody that it was going to come down to like the 7th, 8th, and 9th hitters being able to get to the top of the order. And that's what happened. I mean, you watched it.

The team that won, their 7, 8, 9 guys did a better job than the other team. In baseball, I can still neutralize their best player. I don't have to pitch to Otani. I don't have to pitch to Judge. I can pitch around them. But it takes everybody to do a job. To make them pay for it, though. You got to have your 789 here to make them pay

for pitching around on your guys that's behind those guys to make them pay. Have you ever seen anything like Freddie Freeman? No. Freddie's an unbelievable guy. To go through the things he went through, personal matter with the family, his son,

and then come back, twist his ankle and not being able to put hardly any weight on it and then go out there and do what he did in the World Series. All I did was this, take my hand and tip it to him because that was fun to watch. I told him, I said, look, I'm going to walk you. You're not hitting a home run in the first inning,

no more. You're getting walked. I don't care if the base is loaded, I'm going to walk you. I'm not giving up four. It was just when guys that come up, we talked about earlier, guys that come up in big moments

do big things, and he did it. I mean, what, 12 RBIs? Yes, and what, four homers? Are you surprised Cortez, there's no place to put him, but I mean, you're going to try to, I mean, don't throw him a fastball in. No.

No, you can't. Look, as my hitting coach said, and Gene Clines, who passed away a couple years ago, would say, you can't sneak no cheese past a rat. So don't throw the fastball unless you got some of that behind it and he just left it over the middle of the plate and you know game over we're going to get you out of here

on this one Griff there have been a lot of athletes that have signature shoes where would you rank your shoe? the Griffey one I had. I had every color. You know,

what's funny is I got MJ shoes, LeBron shoes, Kobe shoes, Iverson shoes. I keep a stock full of shoes. You do. To be able to have my own. You do. And, you know, I just, you know,

to be able to have my own is a blessing in what I was able to achieve. I mean, and you really owe it all to Michael and what he's done in allowing, getting businesses to endorse athletes. Right. You know, to come out and say, hey, you know, I think he'd be a good spokesman for us.

And you owe all that to him because him and Bo. I mean, those are the two main guys. Those are the two guys that, you know, without them, who knows what we'd look like right now. I will say this. My first Nike deal, and I get teased about it, was $1,500 in the big leagues. It was $750 in cash and $750 in merch. Well, damn, you couldn't get me like 10 pairs of shoes.

Look, I got two pairs of Jordans, a sweatsuit, and some socks. And then it you know, it got a little bit better and a little bit better and things like that. But like I said, man, I owe it all to the guys that played before me and what they did. I mean, like you guys, I watched you, watched

Chad. I was there when Chad had his 2000 gold jacket on and then, and then try to, and then try to hit Ray and both of them out the game. I was sitting there like at halftime going, where's everybody at Chad in the locker room?

Where Ray at? He in the locker room. I'm on the sideline chair. I'm like, I want to see my man score. Yeah. The last question for me, we all watch witness Barry, I want to see my man score. Yeah. The last question for me.

We all watch witness Barry, that stretch that he has say from Oh one until about Oh four Oh four Oh five. Have you ever seen, have you ever heard, or do you ever think we'll see a stretch of baseball like that again? Well, a tiny did it this year, but he's got three more to do it.

I mean, what Barry did was impressive. I mean, he got 600 and something intentional walks and the closest one is Pujols. Yeah. Yeah. Almost 400 intentional

walks behind him. Yeah, that says a lot about how feared of a hitter he was. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's 400, almost 400 intentional walks behind him. Yeah. That says a lot about how feared of a hitter he was. Yeah. And I think he had like, from that time, from that stretch, he reached base 36% of the time.

Well, when you get walked 600 times, it makes it easy. And that's just intentional walk. We ain't talking about the regular walk. Barry always had a good eye. You know, people know people i mean he was a leadoff hitter barry came up with the pirates as a leadoff hitter um so you have to tighten your zone up and he just kept continuing that throughout his career i mean he very seldom swung at bad pitches yeah and then he had that big old hockey he had that

big old hockey goalie elbow pad on. So he said that over the plate. You got a you got to throw in what you're looking for. Hey, he take it off my mom. My mom, my mom did this to him. He came to the house because, you know, back then you weren't making a whole lot of money. And so it was customary that, you know, when you go into certain towns that you know they feed you right so my so my mom fed him that boy hit five home runs in three days as he's leaving my mom said never again i'm gonna get you on getaway day you can put your food on the bus and you gonna do this to the next team you ain't doing it to my team no more. She would look at him and he just started laughing. Every time she see him, she was like,

get away, day. Because he put an order in. He put an order in. Turkey, greens, you know, potato salad. I mean, this ain't like, you know, we're going to make hamburgers or something. No. He put a Thanksgiving order in every time he came into town

and she was like, no, not no more. Man. Griff, man, we appreciate it, man. We appreciate you giving us time. You're staying up watching the game. It was great talking with you. As always, I'll chat with you later this week. I got some more questions I want to ask.

Yes, sir. Okay, Chad. Yeah. You know, what you doing on Sunday? You know, I need a soccer Sunday? You know, I need a soccer player. You know, it's a co-ed team. We need me to fly. Look,

you right down the street. We in Orlando. Oh, let me know. I'll come down. I'll come down. Look, I take pictures. I don't play because I want to be the goalie. I want to be the goalie. Let me know. That's only two hours away. goalie. Let me know. That's only two hours away.

All right. I appreciate it. Hey, Griff, we appreciate that, man. I holla, man. Thanks for joining us. All right, later. All right, bro. Later.

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what we think they can do? Where would you rank this in-season trade? I rank this in-season trade probably damn near uncle gotta be one of the best. It gotta be one of the best it gotta be the one of the best because you're trading for a player if you put him in the right situation he can give you what we're used to seeing when he was considered a top three top five player in the league you put him in

the right situation that's what's so important when we're used to seeing d hop when he was with arizona we saw d hop when he was with the goddamn Texans. He was considered one of the best in the game. Sure. All of a sudden, he's out of that situation where the opportunities come a little bit more often than normal. So you're able to see the talent. You're able to see the skill.

You're able to see how good he is. How he doesn't drop shit. He don't drop nothing, huh? Boy got all state for hands. Now you put him in a situation in Kansas City. You allow him to get acclimated into the offense. He already has eight for 86. That might, to me, I don't even know a stat line when he's with Tennessee.

I guarantee you that's his best game. Yeah. It's probably his best game. And he only been there for goddamn three business days. It ranks up there. And I think the Chiefs are probably going to, if and when they do go,

maybe back to a chip again, DeHop is going to play a big part of that. He's going to play a damn big part in that. Yeah, he's, uh, look, I wanted DeHop to go before he signed with tennessee because i

thought that would be a great move for him oh joe you gotta get that money but you gotta get that money you gotta go get gotta go get the money um and he did that but i think that but he saw losing sucks you get that money and you get your eyes be like it gets hard and hard to go take your ass to work on mond, Ocho. Yeah. Because you already know what's like. Man, my quarterback situation. Hey, I still don't understand. I don't mean to bring it up.

I don't mean to switch topics like this. Yeah. When I look at Will Levis, I mean, the stature, you know, the skills, the arm strength, the being able to be a dual threat. For the life of me, I really can't understand why somebody that looks like that with the skill set like that, it kind of reminds me of a Josh Allen in a sense. Why he can't just put it all together. I really don't understand. Maybe it's the coaching staff.

I don't know. Maybe the system that he's in. It just, I don't know. Maybe it's the coaching staff. I don't know. Maybe, maybe the system that he's in. It just, I don't, you got it all. You got all the fucking tools. What the hell is going on? A lot of times though,

Joe, it's a situation where you're taking guys that are projects that are reclamation. Now, if we can refine this, you know, you find, you find something in the attic.

Oh, Joe, you're like, man, if we can restore this, well, we got something special on our hands. Right. But it's going to take some time. The question is, do you have time

to fix it up? Right. Well, most of these teams don't have time, Ocho, because you're on the clock. Because if you got a quarterback that's a project, you need to find out whether or not he can play because you're going to have to write him a check for 300 million. So I need to know out whether or not he can play because you're going to have to write him a check for 300 million. So I need to know.

I mean, I really try to, you know, you saw Daniel Jones got 160. Right. And you see how that played, how that's playing out for. Right. Well, now these quarterbacks, that 160. Now, now, when the last quarterback signed, especially if you do a four or five five-year deal, that's going to be north of 200. You see Burrow and them got 250. And so now, by the time a quarterback comes in, Ocho, that's going to be 300 million.

In 2028, it's going to be 200. It ain't going to be that long. 2026, 2027, some quarterback getting over $300 million guaranteed money. So I got to find out Ocho if he can play. Well, you remember before Ocho, you get a quarterback, and you let him sit for a couple years. Yeah. I can't do it now, Ocho.

I got too much money at stake. Mm-hmm. I can tell you who that's going to be too now. Who is it going to be? DJ Shroud. Probably right. Jaden Daniels. Oh, Jaden Daniels for sure.

Jaden Daniels for sure. But that'll be 25, 26. So heading to 27, yeah, he'll be the first. I believe he'll be the first $300 million quarterback. I absolutely believe he'll be. I want to thank Griff again for coming on. Man, he loves sports. You know, sometimes they're just calling.

He's a talker now. Yeah. No, he's a talker. Yes, sir. Oh, you call him now. He's going to be on the phone for an hour a solid hour yeah uh but he's a great conversation he loves sports i love just you know talking about he's a big time golfer uh he and my brother they play a lot of golf

together because my brother kind of like be on that celebrity tour going to different different uh baseball a lot of baseball players have golf tournaments. And he always sees Griffey down there and talks to Griff. But I met Griff when he was with the Mariners back in 99. They were playing the Rockies. And like I said, I went and knocked on the door, tend to open the security, open the door. I'm like, man, I'm here to see Griff. He's like, he know you coming?

I said, nah, but just tell him Sharp here. So he come back, door open, pointed me where Grip was, said I was talking to him, gave me a jersey, gave me a bat. You know, I'm just sitting there talking. They invited the team because we won the Super Bowl, so they invited the team.

Everybody like, man, where you go? I said, man, I was in the locker room talking to Grip. He's like, man, why didn't you get us? I was like, nah, they wouldn't let all of us in there. I know they let me in. But it was great. So, Grip, I really appreciate you coming on, man, sharing a little bit of your time with us. So, thank you, bro. Thank you. I really,

really appreciate that. Ocho, the Chiefs' next nine regular season game, they got the Broncos, the Texans, the Steelers, the Browns, the Bills, Carolina, the Chargers, and the Broncos. the Texans, the Steelers, the Browns, the Bills, Carolina, the Chargers, and the Broncos. I think two of those are going to be difficult games.

I think the most difficult game for them is probably going to be the Steelers because their defense is very, very, very, very goddamn good. And it was one – They got the Texans. They also have Buffalo. Okay, that was the other one. That Steeler game and that Buffalo game are the games where I say they may trip up. The Texans? They also have Buffalo. Okay, that was the other one. That Steeler game and that Buffalo game are the games where I say they may trip up.

Everyone else, there's a chance they can run the gauntlet. What do they play Buffalo at, Ash? In Buffalo? Shit, you know, wherever they play, they could be playing the Auto Zone. It don't matter. They play Buffalo in Buffalo or they play Pittsburgh? They play Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, Buffalo in Buffalo.

They host the Texans, host the Broncos, go on the road to the Broncos. I think they beat the Raiders in the Raiders. I think they've beaten the Chargers in Kansas City. Or what do they play? Cleveland. In Cleveland. Carolina don't matter. They can play on the moon. You know what?

The Chiefs are one of those teams. It don't matter whether they're playing home or away. You're going to get what you're looking for. You're definitely going to get it. Ocho. The Cowboys got some bad news. Dak Prescott is expected to miss multiple weeks with a hamstring injury. With Dak

out, the Cowboys return to Cooper Rush. McCarthy said Cooper Rush is as respected of a backup that I've seen since Rich Ganner. Rush carries the type of credibility. There are plenty of confidence in him. Is it a mistake? Not to see what they have with Trey Lance.

Well, Cooper Rush was always the number two. Yep. So I understand them sticking with cooper rush um i don't think you can have a quarterback battle in the middle of the season like this to decide who your number two quarterback is they decided to go with obviously with cooper rush being the number two i'm sure at some point there was a quarterback battle and they felt cooper rush was better suited to be the backup to Dak Prescott I'm sure they saw a good sample size of Trey Lance during his time since he's been there and they they went with who they felt was better I like Trey Lance um as well I would love to see him back at the helm

being in control of the offense again I think he wasn't given a fair shot. He was. You think so? Yeah. Ocho, you do realize that Brock Purdy was Mr. Brock Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant. Right. Think about what they mortgaged to get this man. Right, right.

That ain't no situation. That ain't no situation where, no. Think about what they gave up. They gave up three first-round picks. Right. Okay. All right. You're right.

You're right. Hey, but, okay, you don't think they cut the string. They cut it a little too soon. No. Okay. Okay. I'm just asking. Let me ask you a question.

What you holding on to? He couldn't be that Brock Purdy. Even after Purdy did what he did. Okay, even after a situation where he gets hurt and Purdy comes in. They put the job up again the following year, and he couldn't beat Purdy out. Hey, you think that was a – never mind. I ain't going to get into that.

I ain't going to get into that. That would be like saying, do you think they cut the cord too quick on Drew Bledsoe? No. No. and they had 100 he was the first quarterback to get 100 million i don't know i just at times i look at it sometimes i'm not the the decision making when it comes to certain players and and coaches feeling you know, I'd rather go to this one. This player doesn't fit my system and what I like to do and what we like to do, I want to go in favor of.

So I hate when I hear things like he couldn't beat a certain player out. I hate hearing things like that. Do you know Kyle Shanahan, had he not drafted Brock Purdy, would have lost his job? Kyle Shanahan would have got fired. If he drafts Trey Lance with the third pick in the draft, and he can't play, and he got no backup player, you know he's losing that job. He and John Lynch would lose their jobs. Think about what you gave up.

What did they give up to get him? Pull up what they gave up to get Trey Lance to move up like six spots. Yeah. Yeah. They gave up like three first round picks and second round pick. He'll probably never be a starter again. They gave up

three first round picks which was number three overall. How many second round picks? And a third round pick. You give that up. That guy doesn't pan out. The cleaning house.

Oh yeah. Brock already saved the job. He saved Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch's job. It's really that simple. Hey, and that's crazy when I think about it because it's the perfect situation for any quarterback. Yeah.

You hear me? It's the perfect situation for any quarterback. When you think about what you got around you, Trent, Ayub, Debo, it's like for a whole team to understand why stuff doesn't work out for certain individuals. Trey Lank.

Athletic. He can throw the ball. And then you put those type of weapons around you, it should flow like fucking water. Then Brock Purdy comes in and hell what the fuck going on because he knows where to go

to football Trey Lance started one season at a FCS level I never understand the guy couldn't play dead in a horror movie Ocho I mean it's simple I mean you hate to say it but he couldn't hey come on you mean he couldn't play dead in a horror movie Ocho I mean it's simple I mean you hate to say it but he couldn't hey come on

he couldn't play dead in a what in a horror movie he couldn't Ocho Brock Purdy beat him out for the job ain't no look the one thing I know about the one thing I know about Kyle Shanahan because I played for his dad they're going to put the best level on the field.

They don't give a damn how much money you're making. Oh, yeah. I've seen Mike Cupp players that's making a boatload of money. If you play good, you're going to play. Yeah. You don't play for the Shanahans based on your paycheck. You play for the Shanahans based on your paycheck. You play, play for the Shanahan based on your performance. Hmm.

Yeah. I'm just, my computer keep crashing. Oh, Joe. Yo, does the Dak injury come at a good time for Jerry? Should they be sellers or should they be buyers?

Hold on now. Wait a minute. Wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's be, I need better context. Now, when you talk about should they be sellers, should they be buyers, who the hell are we selling and what are we trying to buy? That's the better question. Are you selling, are you selling some of your

players or are you buying, saying okay, we still got a chance, we got Cooper Rush, maybe we can get back in this thing let's add a player or two at what position can we add value on our roster defensively or offensively that changes the trajectory of the season i don't I don't think there's a position because the only place you can do that would be at the quarterback position. There's nobody that you can go get

that's going to come in and make a difference where you can turn this season around. So if anything, I would assume if I was in Jerry's shoes, I would be selling or probably going all in. Or less, better, worse, which he was supposed to do, but he didn't. Hold on. How the hell are you going to

go all in right now, Ocho? You three and five. Oh, no. I'm just saying for lack of better words. I'm just using the term. Well, don't you mean to go all out? That means you sell. You have a whole you have a garage. Well, we used to call them rummage sales, yard sales. Now they call them a state.

But back when I was growing up, there weren't no states. People would just sell it-ish that they didn't want in their house and clutter up their house. So we call them yard sales or rummage sales because a lot of times people just come rummage through it even though we don't buy it-ish. You got to do something.

You got to do something. You got to do something. What would you do? You buying and selling? Selling. Everything? Yeah, I'm getting ready for next year. What y'all got, what y'all got,

what y'all looking for? Right. Obviously, Micah is off limits. Right. Nobody's going to give you anything, but CD's off limits. I don't, you know. What, what, what players do they have that somebody

could potentially want? They don't have guys that have a whole lot of sacks. Nobody has a whole lot of interceptions. Nobody's just going to be a free agent. Who's going to be a free agent next year that you're like, I don't think we're going to be able to sign them. Who has one year

left on their contract? Hey, Jerry's going to have to... Listen, I would say he's got to put his money where his mouth is, but he just did that in the offseason with Dak and CD. He's going to have to do it again with Micah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, but he has to improve.

He has to improve that team. You got to go out there and get you a reliable, reliable. Well, he said he's the best guy for the job. That's what he said. Now, if it's a lie, he told it. But a lie don't care who tell it. He know what he doing. He know what he doing because he's been doing it for a long time.

But there's certain there's certain things where you got to pull the trigger. He not pulling the trigger where he needs to. He not. Go ahead. No, I'm just saying he not pulling the trigger where he needs to. I'm not a GM. I'm not a scout. I'm not.

I'm on the outside looking in. But I did play the game and understand what it takes to compete. To compete and be competitive with some of the better teams that are continuing to improve year in and year out. Year in and year out. Christian McCaffrey returns to practice for the 49ers. Not only did C-Mac return to the practice field for the first time since week one,

wide receiver Juwan Jennings, kicker Jake Moody, and offensive lineman John Feliciano were all back in action according to reports on the site. Ocho, what do you expect from the 49ers moving forward? Hey, once CMC hits that field,

the offense gets that much better. Once CMC hits that field, the offense gets that much better. Arguc hits that field the offense gets that much better arguably cmc was the best running back in the league i know what derrick henry is doing right now but before cmc got i mean before cmc got hurt he was considered the best running back in the league right for all the things that he can do at the receiver position lining up in the slot all they can do coming out the backfield, catching the ball out the backfield, running the ball.

It allows it allows him to do so much more. I think the offensive playbook with Shanahan, when CMC is back there, even though Jordan, even though Jordan Mason played pretty well, you know, while CMC was out, I think they can do that much more offensively when they have CMC in there. Yeah, I think healthy, they're still a threat in the NFC.

Yeah. Hell yeah. They're still very formidable. Formidable. Whatever term you want to use. Formidable, formidable. See Mack, his ability to run the football between the tackles, to hit outside, can catch it out of the backfield.

They get Debo back. They get Juwan Jennings back. They have an opportunity to do something really good. Saints fired Dennis Allen after seven straight losses, Ocho. Dennis Allen is the first coach in NFL history to fire by two different teams, both times the same quarterback, starting quarterback.

Derek Carr, he got fired in Oakland. I mean, the Raiders. His quarterback was Derek Carr. He got fired in New Orleans. So there's a great chance that Derek Carr is not on the Christmas list. Listen, I say it all the time.

Players get coaches fired. Players get coaches fired. The team has lost confidence and whatever belief they had in Derek Carr based on his performance. Again, look the way you did the first two weeks of the season and the fall flat on your face week in and week out. If you look at the players mannerisms. Around Derek Carr, look at some of the tweets from the players that are not currently playing right now.

And some of the players that aren't even playing anymore about their car. I've never seen a quarterback in that position. In that position where your teammates aren't supporting you, past or present. In season. We ain't even in the offseason. We in the middle of the season. And it's

bad. It is. It is. I just didn't think Dennis Allen was going to look. He was the D coordinator and then Denver had some outstanding defense. I just don't understand it. I mean, they get off the score

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