Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Kings smoke Lakers, Shannon's secret to success

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Gilbert Arenas discuss the Kings big win over the Lakers and what can be learned from Mr. Beast's incredible success on Youtube. 0:00 Introduction03:40 Kings sweep season series against Lakers19:20 DLo says Schroeder was the reason he couldn’t establish a relationship with Darvin Ham31:00 Mavs beat Warriors52:40 Daniel Gafford is 33-33 over his last 5 games54:45 Steve Kerr believes Warriors can make a playoff run #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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that. Let's help get his subs up. Gil, let's get right into it tonight. The Kings sweep the season series from the Lakers 4-0. They win tonight's game 120-107. The Kings dominate the Lakers in the second half. I think they outscored them something like 28-11. 28-17. I would score them by 11. DeMontis Sabonis is now 10 and 0 against Anthony Davis. He had another triple double.

He leads the league in triple doubles. How he's not if he's not going to be an all NBA player, they should do away with it. I don't care if you say it's cheap or not. He finished the night with 17 points, 19 rebounds and 10 assists, 14 defensive rebounds, five offensive rebounds, and he was a plus 10. He only took 10 shots. So he was outstanding, and they thoroughly dominate the Lakers in the second half,

and they win comfortably 120-107. Gil, you watched this game in its entirety. What did you take away from it? Listen, we always have a great first quarter. Right? Halftime, we're trying to make a comeback. That third quarter kills us. We come out flat.

There needs to be some plays. There needs to be first five plays after halftime has to be some way to get the team going. Sabonis plays against AD like AD owes him rent money. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, he owes that man something because every time he sees AD's face,

he's not intimidated by him at all. He goes at it. That's what makes by him at all. He goes at it. That's what makes me question defensive players. Because you're a top defensive player, and you got a guy coming at you ahead like, yeah, you lunch meet out there. Yeah, let's take it to my sport. Ain't nobody say, oh, you know what?

I want to block LT. Oh, give me Reggie. I want Reggie White. Oh, you know what? I think I want to run the route against Tyne. Huh? Defensive guys, when you're like, nah, I want none of that. Let's go over here to the other side. Well, if I get Jackson Hayes on me, or if I get LeBron 6'9", I'm 7'1".

I want that matchup. I don't want one of the premier defenders, help defenders, on-ball defenders in the NBA. He's like, I don't give a damn about that. Give help defenders, own ball defenders in the NBA. He's like, I don't give a damn about that. Give me the ball. I'm going at him. And he goes at him. And it's showing.

It's dominant. So, you know, when it comes to just the intimidation factor, you don't have none over that team. They feel that they have your number. They feel that you are easy work one through 12. It's one of those teams you don't want to play in the playoffs. So now we have to check off.

We don't want to play Denver. Hell no. We don't want to play Sacramento. Because we don't have no advantage over them. And now they have all the confidence in the world going into a playoff series. So those are the two teams we do not want to match up with.

And we don't match up very well. The Warriors did us a favor last year by knocking them off. In seven games, Steph Curry goes in game seven, I think he scores 50. But the problem that the Lakers have is that they can't deal with dribble drive. So now you got to send help.

Now they kick guys wide open. If you look at it, they only had, of guys that played major minutes, only Malik Monk and De'Aaron Fox shot under 50%. Sabonis was six of 10. Harrison Barnes was eight of 15. Keegan Murray was seven of 13. Ellis was five of 10. Harrison Barnes was 8 of 15. Keegan Murray was 7 of 13. Ellis was 5 of 8.

And Barnes was 7 of 11 from 3. Keegan Murray was 5 of 10. Ellis was 3 of 5. Other than, I mean, they shot 52% from the floor. They shot 46% from the 3. They out-rebounded the Lakers again. Lakers keep getting out-rebounded second-chance points, fast-break points. And so because they can't,

because they don't do well, quick-point guards give them problems. Murray is a problem for them. Taron Fox is a problem for them. Shea Gilgis is a problem for them, but he doesn't have enough help on the other end. So that's why they

match up well against OKC. But a quick guard like Murray, a quick guard like Darren Fox that has help because Murray has yoke. And then you try to take those guys out, they can kick the ball to

Michael Porter Jr. But quick guards are going to always give them a problem because it's so hard for them to stay in front of anybody. And so now you get wide open shots, uncontested shots, or you get somebody going to the basket. And so, yeah, the Kings, I don't want to see the Kings in the playoffs. I don't want to see them in the play-in tournament. I don't want to see them at the AAU tournament.

I don't want to see them at the blacktop. I don't want to see the Kings no more. This year, the rest of the year, I hope we don't want to see him at the AAU tournament. I don't want to see them at the blacktop. I don't want to see the Kings no more this year. The rest of the year, I hope we don't see the Kings. Yeah, you know, the real issue that we have as just the Lakers themselves, and we can't stop teams that pass. Jamal Murray, first of all, somebody cut. Jamal Murray is not a forward. Jamal Murray is a guard.

Keegan Murray is a forward. Keegan Murray is a forward. So all you guys, come on up. Jamal Murray plays for the Nuggets. He is a guard. All right, go ahead, Gil. The problem is any team that passes the ball more than two times, we struggle with. That's our real Achilles heel, where you have

teams that actually drive pass and pass because when you got a guy that's 39, when you got AD, when you got most of the guys that just, I can stop you to first pass, and then when you pass pass, Lakers give up on that. So you have a team like the

Kings who do extra passing. Even Boston does extra passing, but they'd be better against Boston because Boston wants to play one-on-one. So now he gets to load up. LeBron gets to load up. When you got a group of sons, when they have those multiple pass type of teams, we're going to

struggle with them. You are, and you needed LeBron to give you more tonight. He did not play well tonight. Anthony Davis did not play. Really, only two guys played well tonight. That was Rui and Austin Reeves. Yeah. I mean, and there are some shots that I'm not going to beat D'Lo up

because he had some looks at some threes early. Shots that he, I mean, he had been knocking down threes. I mean, I didn't expect him to shoot 50% for the rest of the season from the three-point line. But LeBron missed two bunnies at the rim. How many, like, six-footers did AD miss? Point blank. He missed a bunch of those.

And so I could kind of tell early on that LeBron was not in a rhythm because he missed those jocks. He missed those layups early. One with a righty reverse and the other with a lefty. So I'm like, uh. And then, you know, he hit one three. I was like, like okay maybe he'll get it going but he didn't play well tonight ad didn't play well tonight and when you go to the half and you look at okay rui and and uh uh austin reeds are shooting this and then the rest of the starters are shooting that. You're like, we're in trouble. We're in trouble.

Not necessarily because, you know, Rui and Austin are getting their points because they're open. Right? You know, so, you know, the fact that, you know, someone like LeBron and AD are making that pass so they can get those shots. You're depending on them to hit those shots. So when it's time to score in the fourth quarter, you have the room, right? So, you know, it makes sense, right? You're going to defer to those guys, get them going. So in the fourth quarter, you're playing one-on-one basketball and you're not focusing on me. Now my drives become a little bit easier. Just sometimes you take yourself out of rhythm doing that.

Right. And that's what I'm saying about lebron i mean what's like rui and austin had it going so he's like well i'm not going to interject myself because they got it going let's not take them out i don't know why darvin ham took austin reeves out i understand you like okay you're gonna austin you're gonna play the first seven eight minutes of the game but the man go five or six from the floor you're not coming out that that's not called coaching. Most of them are not coaching. They have a piece of paper.

That piece of paper tells them when they're going to sub, not the game itself. That's a big problem in the game because they're not watching the game and following it. They have their sheet and they got their time slots of when they're going to sub in

and they have the little blueprint. And they're not paying attention to allson just had five threes we go yes and now they they just they just all right uh sir you go you go it's it's pre-planned yeah pre-planned a game and they do that yeah and then you look at it you look at it gail it's like now you don't bring him back into like seven and a half minutes of the second quarter. So you sit him for like the final five minutes,

the final four minutes of the first. You get that, you get the break, and then you don't bring him back to like five minutes. Five minutes are gone in the second quarter.

I'm like, what the? I mean, let the man cook. Hey, bro. Hey, you might have to go the whole quarter. I understand. Hey, I don't know who he's, I forget who he subbed in for him, but Torian Prince.

I don't care. Or maybe Spencer. Maybe Dinwiddie came in. And that's kind of – that's what I hate about analytics because analytics just says, okay, if it's this, this, and this. But analytics doesn't take into account momentum of the game. Analytics doesn't take those factor in. And so when you look at it, like you okay i got a card it says okay i'm gonna sub austin reeves at the this minute mark or i'm gonna

serve this guy to that minute mark okay if you watching the game you see the man austin got it going hell nah hey bro hey keep it keep it going even if you miss shots even if you miss shots but they look like they're good shots like you have to be inside of the game in real time. Right. But most coaches are our time managers. Yeah. They're not coaching the game. And sometimes.

But also is not at that point yet where he get the wave a sub off. Yeah. There's been plenty of times where you got it going in and you get that hit on your shoulder, man, you better go get somebody else. You better get somebody else. Hey, subbing for dude, he ain't hitting nothing all day. That's happened plenty of times. There's been plenty of times where

like, this is where that happens at where a coach is drawing a play up and you come to the what's-his-name huddle and see, I just hit three shots. We're not drawing this play up and you come to the, to the what's the name huddle and see, I just hit three shots. We're not drawing this play up. Erase this.

That's where that, that comes in that because you're drawing a play that has nothing to do with the rhythm of the game right now. Right. And you see, sometimes he's like, you say sometimes like, okay, you start the fourth quarter and your starter start on the bench.

You like, okay, we out of this game and the, and the, uh, the, uh, the backup, the second team, gets it going. No, let them keep it going.

You all of a sudden, okay, starters go back. Ah, you see that done came back from 25 down, and now we down three. You thought I put the starter in. Let's keep it going. And Torian Prince just said, nah, Coach, hey, leave him in there. He cooking now.

He got it going now. Let's not interrupt his groove. Yeah, but that's players too. Players got to understand, you know, sometimes you got to sacrifice. But that's championship teams will do that. Championship teams, if the bench got it going, and the coach was like, are y'all ready to go back in? Those players were like, nah, they cooking.

Wait for a timeout. Wait for a dead ball. Wait for the rhythm is being broken. You know, they're cooking. Wait for a timeout. Wait for a dead ball. Wait for the rhythm is being broken. You know, if they're on a 12 run, the guys on the bench is not going to break that. Right? But that's a team collective thing too. But that's

that next level of basketball. That's something that's got to do. That's something Boston would be doing right now. Yeah, I just think the thing, the the Lakers this is not a good matchup for the Lakers I mean there's no way around it uh Darren Fox is cat quick he stays he lives in the lane he can get any shot that he wants anytime that he wants so if you trap him take the ball out of his hands obviously you have to bring two people to do that because you don't have one guy that's on the ball that can make him give it up so he's gonna get to wherever he people to do that because you don't have one guy that's on the ball that can make him give it up.

So he's going to get to wherever he wants to get on the court. So now when you send that help, now somebody is open. OK, now you try to run him off a spot. Now you left somebody else open. Now you get guys scrambling. So even if they put a shot up because you're scrambling, the ball goes everywhere. Now they run, get the rebound. They track the rebound down on you.

So that's what's going to be hard for the Lakers. I don't, like I said, I don't think they could beat the Nuggets. I don't care if they played a 15-game series. I don't care how many games they went to. They play one game, they play 15 games. I don't believe they can beat the Nuggets, especially as good as the Lakers are in clutch time, the last five minutes, the game within five points, the Nuggets are better.

Yeah, you know what I don't see in this game right now? Is the defensive, like Torian Prince, how I will play him is, if we're playing against De'Aaron Fox or Murray, when you come in the game, you pick him up full court. Yes. Pick him up full court. So what I'm going to do is pick him up full court yes pick him up full court so what i'm gonna do is pick him up full court let him use energy coming at the court right right and then on the other end put him in pick and rolls if he switches but give it to that guy let him pull let him run

let him run his energy down so by the time the fourth quarter comes, he has a little bit less energy than he usually has. That's what we used to do to Chris Paul. When I was at Memphis, Tony Allen picks him up full court. That's all his job is to make him use a little bit of energy. And then Chris Paul is guarding Conley. Conley's going to

throw him through three or four pick and rolls first before he starts offense. Just gonna beat him up because they're trying to wear him down for the last five minutes. So by the time the last five minutes kick in, Chris Paul's don't have his legs. That's what you need to do with your defense. You can't

just have them back there sitting on defense waiting for the man to come. No, use them. Use them. Go up there and hustle something. Go in there and be a gnat. That's your job. Be a gnat. Get these dudes tired. Let him use his energy from full court.

Pass it. Deny him. This is chess. You're trying to protect that fourth quarter, so that fourth quarter, he don't have full energy coming in the lane, dancing, having fun, flickering on your big man like

he wasn't even there. Yeah. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche,

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Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, they got to what they get tomorrow. They get Friday. They got a game. They got a primetime game against the Warriors. We'll see whether or not Steph is going to be there Saturday night, ABC primetime game. I'm hoping Steph play because I'm actually going to that game and I've never seen Steph play. So I actually want to see it. And I don't have, I don't have nightcap that night.

So I'll get an opportunity to sit and enjoy the entirety of the game. So I'm anxious to see the Lakers play the Warriors, and I'm hoping Steph plays. But then again, it greatly increases our chance of winning if he doesn't play. But I want to see it play. I want to see it. I want to see my goal in life now is to see all this generation's great players get to play.

Okay, there we go. That's my thing. Okay, Gil, in the big Laker news of the day, D'Angelo Russell believes Dennis Schroeder was the reason he couldn't establish a relationship with Darvin Hamm. His relationship with Darvin is the reason I couldn't have a relationship with Darvin. When I was struggling, I would have been able to come to the coach

and say, hey, bro, this is what we should do. Like, do like i can help you instead there was no dialogue i just accepted it and we got swept and here i am and he's not and i like our chances uh i don't think i don't think this is new i mean you you've been in you played this game with players having coaches that they don't feel they can communicate with and i think I read somewhere in the article, and somebody, maybe he spoke about it, or maybe the players have spoken about it before. It seems to be Darvin has a longer leash with players that he had prior relationships with.

So he was in Atlanta when Schroeder was in Atlanta with Bud. And so he had a prior relationship. And it seems like he had a longer leash with guys that he had a previous relationship with than not. And so I think that's what, you know, and I'm not here to make D'Angelo, make excuses for D'Lo. I'm anxious to hear what you have to say. But he said that was one of the reasons that he feel that he didn't have a relationship with D. Ham is because Ham had a prior relationship with Schroeder and he couldn't communicate with him like Schroeder could. I mean, that's that's that's that's nature. Right. That that is part of sports. Right. You know, the coaching staff, the head coach has better relations with certain

players right you know when you're talking about the the coach and the player relationship you're talking about a bond um obviously the bond with shooter is going to be tighter than the bond with you he knows him he trusts him they've been through war together so when he has to relay something to the team you're the point guard he's the shooting guard but we speak the same language so when he wants to get something to the team he's going to go to the guy he knows is going to relay that message the way he perceives it and the way he's trying to deliver it that's that's just natural but as a point guard and as a player on a team you still have to try to find your own way to talk to the coach.

Right. This is this is no different than the relationship. Right. If you don't know what's going on in the relationship and you don't want to speak, obviously shit can't get done. Right. I think the biggest thing, you know what I tell people all the time, a lot of times I say, you know, what's the biggest cause? The biggest reason relationships end? And people like to say infidelity. People like to say finances. It's uncommunicated expectations. See, Darvin Ham had an expectation of what he wanted D-Lo to do.

Or D-Lo had expectations of what he thought. But nobody communicated those expectations. You see, if I'm in a relationship, man, I thought, oh, but nobody communicated those expectations. You see, if I'm in a relationship, man, I thought, oh, she want me to take, she's thinking, oh, Shannon going to do this for my birthday, you know, blah, blah, blah. He got this hotel rented out. We're going to go get a dinner. It's going to be nice candlelit. They're going to be playing some nice music. Then we're going to go to the hotel. He got she got he got rose petals and he got I got a Birkin bag. I got blah, blah, blah. But see, those are your expectations, but they were uncommunicated. After a while, too many, too many uncommunicated expectations.

So now it keeps building. You keep having expectations, but you keep not communicating those with me. Sooner or later, no matter how much you put, it doesn't matter how much something weighs. If you put enough of that something on there, it's going to break. Oh, no, facts, facts, facts. See, my grandfather used to say, boy, he used to give me and my brother a task or something. And I would say, Papa, that's too heavy. He said, boy, you can carry anything if you cut it up in enough pieces. See, I was looking at it from one standpoint, a six-year-old trying to carry a 25-pound bag of feed or a 50-pound bag of feed. He said, no.

He said, put it in the foot tub, and you might have to make X amount of trips, but you can get it done. Yeah. So because they never can, whatever the case may have been, neither person, Darvin Ham or D'Lo communicated, but both had expectations. So it was those uncommunicated expectations that caused the relationship to break down. But let me ask you this, Gil, with that being said, how rare is it for a player to say that while he's still playing for said coach?

Now, that's different. Hey, that's different, right? But it's easier for him to say it now because he don't have no guy to go to. Right? And I didn't really understand where D'Lo was coming from because for the most part, it was just the last four

games. Well, he didn't really play well against the Grizz either. He didn't play well, but he did like the last four games or the last three games is the only time D'Lo didn't take double-digit shots. Right.

The other three series, the other two series, D-Lo was in double digits and shooting. Just got a little uncomfortable those last three. So we don't know if it was how you started the game and he just subbed you. Like that's something that they had to have that conversation about. But I'm looking at just one series and say man you didn't show up you say well coach wasn't you know messing with me then that that can be that's all hearsay at this point but the fact that you you're voicing it now like haha he's gone so you got to deal with me unless you know at the end of the season darvin ham is gone so you don't really care and plus i'm playing well what you gonna say? Remember, I dropped 44 when you didn't have Bron.

If you look at the games that Bron didn't play, I've been playing well. And I've been playing well as of late. So, and like I said, look, I'm not expecting D'Lo to drop 44 or 30, but he has played extremely well the last 20 ballgames. Let's give him credit for that. Facts.

And so... Big shots. This is the... Like, this is the D-Lo that I remember when he was first in L.A., when he was his first injury here, he was playing well. Then he went to Jersey, was an all-star.

Yes. So, you know, even when he was in minnesota he played well so that's the deal that we we we got back and we're seeing glimpses of it so we know now he can sustain that type of play he just has to figure out how to do that while bronze on the court also all that everything you know what gill everything that d lo said might be true but this is what we know he averaged six points three and a half assists and two rebounds a game and no matter what the reasons are people are not gonna hear what he has to say they're like bro we saw those bricks that you were shooting we saw you average six we saw you average three and a

half and we saw you average two. We don't want to hear why you did that because that's unimportant. No, thanks. The Laker fan base, they're about results. I understand you got heartburn, but can you deliver me a healthy baby? That's all I need. I don't want to hear about your back hurt, your feet swollen. So the Laker fans will say, hey, just produce.

Just give us good to great games. And we can live with whatever else happens. But what we will not allow is for you to play bad and then seemingly give us excuses. Because everything that he said, it might be true, but it does not matter. Not doesn't. No one cares.

No one cares if you're injured, right? No, you know, it's like when Dwight Howard's here, nobody cared that you went through back surgery. Nope. Nope.

We don't care if you look like you limp and you can't bend down. As long as you're out there, we're judging you as of what we're accustomed to seeing. Yep. Because I saw 12 with Howard on the back. Ain't got nothing. Dr. L. LaTroche went in your back and did surgery and fused a disc or took something out or put something in. We don't care. And that's what I tell guys. Look,

if you're expecting the fans to empathize that you're out there and you're limping, they don't care. Because all they do is that they see 84 and they see sharp on the back. They don't care that I didn't practice all week and I had

40 cc's drawn off one knee and 30 drawn off the other and I had to get painkilling injection in both ankles. They don't give a damn. All I know is that I want to see you go catch touchdowns, catch passes, get open and help the Broncos win this game. That's all I care about. Same thing with the Ravens.

They didn't care about that and I understood. So when I went out there on the field, even though I took those painkilling injections every single week, even though I was having fluid drawn up my knees, I knew there was a level of expectation that the fans had. I also knew there was a level of expectation my teammates had. No, yeah. My teammates was like, hey, bro. And they looking at that long ass needle going in my knee.

They see the fluid being drawn up. I mean, not my knee, in my ankle. They saw that big ass needle. And they're asking me, Sharp fluid being drawn up. I mean, in my, not my knee and my ankle, they saw that big ass needle and they asked him a shot, man. I don't know how you do it, but bro, Hey, we need you today.

What the hell are you asking me? You don't know how I do it, but this same breath, you tell it where you need me. But that's the level of expectations that when you play of being a player that they're counting on. And I looked at myself as a, a,

a very good to great player. I put those expectations on myself. And that's the thing that's going on with LeBron himself. We don't see you at a level. We can't. There's no way. If we're talking about how he's playing now, there's no way LeBron can average 17 or 12 in this league.

No, no, no, no, no. Because the tickets we paying, LeBron can average 17 or 12 in this league? No. No. No. No. Because the tickets we paying, the tickets we pay don't come with no discount. No. Nah, I don't say, well, if AD got under eight and he's slipping, he don't play, we give you money back. Nah, I'm paying full price

regardless. And I won't. If I'm going to pay full price, I need to see full price results. Yeah. And for won't. If I'm going to pay full price, I need to see full price results. Yeah. And for LeBron, for the LeBron numbers and them to win tonight with 18 and the way he shot, AD needed to probably have like 35. AD needed to have a game

close to what he had the other night, a 27-25 game. He needed to probably have 30-17 and Rui and Austin do what they did. But you can't have you can't get you know 20 was that 24 points between LeBron between LeBron and D'Lo

and they shot 8 of 20 they shot 8 of 27 from the floor 3 of 12 from the free-throw line especially since you don't got nobody coming off the bench that's gonna give you 12 or 15 consistently nah nah nah it will be hell if to get 15 between all of them. Yeah. You got,

hold on, man. You got 11, you got 13 points from your bench. That won't cut it. That won't cut it. They got 14, 20, 24. They got 26. You got 13. So they outscored you. They outscored your

bench by 13, and then their starters beat you up also pretty good. All their starters were in double figures. But the Lakers got to figure this out. The Mavs beat the Warriors 109-99. Luka didn't get his

A-straight triple-double, but they got the win. Let me see. Hold on. Go back. You know, I got this new gadget in here, Gil. I've been learning how to work it. I feel like I'm Tom Cruise at Minority Report.

You see my background? I had to switch it up because everything got destroyed. Everything is destroyed here. So, hopefully by Wednesday, what happened? What happened? Some new stuff coming in. Oh, okay. You get redecorated.

Yeah, I had to move. Luckily, I got a moving desk. Lucas scores 21. He only scored 21. Let's see what Luke. Yeah, he had a decent game today. 99-109. Yeah, that was one of them old

2001 games. Well, now, you see, what was that game? Was that Philly and the Knicks? Somebody had 79-73. Y'all kind of bulljacked? That was the Detroit game. Yeah. Yeah, Kyrie was 8 of 16, 1 of 5, 6 of 6 for the free throw

line. He had 23. Luka had 21. Wow. It was really, really a quiet night for Luka. 21 and 9, 21, 9, and 3? That's crazy, right? The Warriors must be some slaughter tonight because

nobody really went crazy. Well, I mean, you got to take CP. Steph is not there and CP is there. So with CB being there, he's going to milk the clock. He's going to be one of those grinded out type of

offenses. So, you know, it wasn't going to be one of those grinded out type of offenses. So, you know, it wasn't going to get, it wasn't going to be one of those 130, 135 type of games. Right. And I don't know if they can get that without Steph in the lineup. Yeah. Kaminga played well. He was, what, 8 of 17, 2 of 2 from the three-point line. He had 27.

It looks like Draymond didn't play either Clay struggled he was 3 of 13 2 of 7 from the 3 he had 8 points it's just it's just you know for every for every game that Clay give you a glimpse of what he was he'll have 5 6 7, but you're like, damn, Clay. We can sit here and ask what's the problem, but we know it's more mental than physical. This is mental. He got the same shots, doing the same thing, same plays, right? It's not like he's one of those guys that really needs space for his shot.

This is a mental battle that he's having, right? It's from, you know, his contract, not getting that extension. We don't know what's going on in his personal life. He should have took that money. Huh? He should have took that money. But it might be more than that too, though. True.

But Gil, you got to, you know, a lot of times people make mistakes. Is that, well, he over there and that's what he got. But you're not over there. Yeah. They might not view your organization, might not view you like his organization view him. So you looking at someone else and saying, well, this is that. You can't measure your worth by what someone else got. And far

too many times, that's what happens. You look over there, you're like, well, bro, you can't measure your worth by someone else's. And I think that's what he's doing. He's looking at guys like, man, I'm better than X. Man man he got 150

and y'all only offered me 24 a year for two years you know what the real problem was he's measuring himself up to people that there's not even the same category right and what I mean by the category is what option

is Clay third second up stop looking at number one options bro by the category is, what option is Clay? Third? Second option? Stop looking at number one options, bro. You're third option. Your career has been third option. You've never been a number one option. So when you're paying God, no matter what your numbers

are and who you are and your four rings, you're a third option for your team. And a very good one. Yes. Don't compare yourself to someone that's a first option or a third option. Yes. Your team. Right. And a very good one. Yes. Don't compare yourself to someone that's a first option or a second option. Those, I don't care what your numbers are. Your responsibility is different. You have none.

You've done played horrible this whole year. And Golden State still feels they can go deep in the playoffs because they're not on your back. They're on Steph's back. So you might average 20. This guy averaged 20, but his responsibility is way different than yours. So when you're looking at his contract and you're looking at, we got the same numbers. Yes, but you don't have the same responsibilities.

You have none. He has more. Is he? You know, so that becomes a good thing to do hold on gil mr beast is in our chat hey hey guys give mr beast a hand let's say hello to mr beast hey jimmy how you doing bro i appreciate that hey that's the he the guy he the standard in which we we we aspire to a sin no that's fact do we aspire to ascend to. No, that's fact.

Do we aspire to ascend to? He come in, I'm thinking of a number one to 1,000. What is it? You're thinking of a number one to 1,000. 750. Hold on. Hold on, let me get mine right quick. But what is it?

240. He said he's thinking of a number 1 through 1,000. What is it? I'm going 244. All right. Well, we almost at 1,000. We at 994. Hey, hey hey hey

244 that's how many that's how many subscribers he has so I'm going with that he got 256 million 244 million he got 244 or 256 it says 244 million okay

that's why I went with that number hey Mr. Beast send a couple of them to Nightcap, Gil's Arena, No Chill Gil, and Club Shady. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there,

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Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No.

It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran-Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today.

The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, man, that's unbelievable.

Hell, I didn't even know Mr. Beast knew who we were. So for him to join our chat, that's unbelievable. That's great. I guess we're doing something right, Gil. All right. But we really appreciate you taking time out of your schedule because i know you're busy uh uh you have a lot going on doing what you do so uh everybody here at uh nightcap we really appreciate you stopping by being in the chat so that was an

unbelievable so appreciate it uh mr beast his name is jimmy so i think his name is Jimmy so actually I think his name is James but they call him Jimmy right yeah his name is he's from North Carolina so it's an unbelievable honor to have you in our chat so we greatly appreciate you stopping by hanging out for a few minutes he's been at this thing a long time I think he's had a

he's been at it since he was about 15 14 or 15 years of age Gil and now he's 26. So, yeah, no, I used to, I watched a lot of his videos, even from the beginning on how he first started. Right. You know, he was saying something with how he was trying to find the algorithm of YouTube where all his four friends

or his three friends, the four of them will take on assignments, right? Want to take on thumbnails, want to take on videos and they're trying to figure out what catches and then they can come back to each other and give each other the updates so they can put it in all in one video. Put it together. So instead of taking four years to learn some information, it took them one year to learn all the information.

I'm just like, man, that's brilliant. This is what I do know about him and about people that work for him just by basing it on greatness and being around great players and seeing great players. And when you hear them talk, they're obsessed. Yep. And everybody that's in their circle is obsessed. So when people say, oh, you can have this.

No, you can't. No, you can't. You can't. No, you cannot. Anybody that's, and I'm not just talking about, I'm not talking about the wealthy. You look at the Jones, you look at the great. I'm talking about the great. Now, if you just want to be average and you want to say, well, you know, hey, I'm cool with my nine to five. I'm cool doing what I do. Come home. I'm able to go to all the great. I'm talking about the great. Now, if you just want to be average and you want to say, well, you know, hey, I'm cool with my nine to five.

I'm cool doing what I do. Come home. I'm able to go to all the kids or to all the kids events and all that stuff like that. That's fine. I'm not here to knock you for that. I'm saying if you want to be the point zero, zero, zero, zero,

zero point one, there's no other way. There is no balance to greatness. There's no balance. Go listen. Y'all love Jordan. Y'all love Kobe. And still they, until they start talking about what it took to be great.

And then when they tell you what I'm actually saying, well, you don't want to do. So sometimes it's the messenger. It's not the message because here's the thing, what I've noticed. And I'm a lot older than you are, Gil. If we like the messenger, we're more likely to receive the message. If we don't like the message, he could tell us you got the winning lottery ticket is being sold down the street.

He like, man, I'm later for you, bro. But if you don't like the messenger, you won't down the street. You're like, man, I'll later for you, bro. But if you don't like the messenger, you won't like the message. No, it ain't even about the... It can be about the message or the messenger if you don't have the willpower.

It don't matter who gives you the message, right? We have all the information to our disposal. We know everyone that's watching knows how to be successful yes they know how because there's so much information there's so many successful people here showing us with it yes telling us with words right january 1st comes every year. The first 30 days, what?

Everybody, we got to get in shape. We got to do your, yep. I'm going to do this. February 1st, 99.9% of everybody went back to December last year. Yep. That's just a, that's just a fact. Like I tell my kids, listen, I don't give a, if there's400 shots that you need to take a week,

200 shots every day. Want to come up to me, I took 1,400. How many days did you shoot? I did it in one day. You suck. It ain't about the 1,400. It's about seven days consecutive it's about the consistency because that means three of those days you didn't want to do it and you still did it that is the greatness the 1400 ain't the greatness the everyday grind of it the days you don't want to do the days

you want to do it you don't gain nothing them three days you don't want to do it. The days you want to do it, you don't gain nothing. Them three days you don't want to do it is where the gains come from. Yes. That's why one of my number one quotes that my grandfather said, he said, boy, never mistake habit for hard work. See, what the thing is, Gil,

a lot of times people do something over and over and they feel they're working hard. And the analogy you use is the gym. How many times,, Hey man, I went to the gym today. I've been going to the gym the last three years, the last three months, and your body looked exactly the same because that you going to the gym out of habit, you're not working hard, man. I don't know what it is, but what I work out, I just, you ain't eating a 45 pound plate. Yeah, man. My clothes, man, the dry shrunk out, I just, you ain't eating a 45-pound plate. Yeah. Man, my clothes, man, the dryer shrunk my clothes.

No, the refrigerator shrunk your clothes. That's what shrunk your damn clothes. So I don't know who you trying to fool. See, when people start trying to, look, I don't know, and I tell people this, I don't know everything. I know a little bit about everything. But what I know a lot, what I know, I know a lot about. I know about the human body and i know about eating correctly i know about a healthy lifestyle so you can't fool all that other stuff you do all that talking you could talk your ass off yep get your lips off my ears

as a matter of fact because you're talking me to death so all that other stuff that y'all be talking no this this is this is what i do And this is why I don't have time to talk about people, Gil. I'm taping seven to ten shows a week. That's right. I'm trying to come up with content. Ash and I, she calling me. She's obsessed as I am.

Yeah. CJ is obsessed as I am. That's the only way you can be great. Because, look, what y'all want to do? Do we want to be good? Because this ain't good enough. This isn't good enough. And, okay.

CJ, okay. So that's the mindset that we have. I need people that are obsessed. If you want to take vacation every three months, working for Shea Shea Media ain't for you. And that's okay. That's okay. I'm not going to knock you because, oh man, he drive

or he work this jazz all time of the night. Especially because we got to stay on top of this. That's the only way, Gil. That is the only way. We're our own boss. You have great hours,

but you got to be obsessed. I was obsessed with football, and that's why I'm terrible at relationships because I do not multitask. I'm a singular focused guy. That's why people say, well, he ain't never been married.

No, because relationship, that has never been the most important thing to me. Some people, that is. Okay, that's you. But for me. And people don't understand, that's a sacrifice. And some of those sacrifices came when we were little.

And that's why it's hard for us when we're done. We sacrificed everything to get to where we were. Now when you take that away from us, there's nothing. We don't know nothing.

So now we got to sit here and mentally try to find something that is going to fulfill everything that fulfilled it when we was in sports. Filled that void. It has to be able to fill it all. And I'm sorry,

there's no relationship that's going to fill the void of being an athlete. No. Not a healthy one. No. Not a healthy one because everything that came with being an athlete, a healthy relationship, can't do it. And people don't really understand it. That's why you got golfing.

That's why some of them can golf all day, fish all day, right? To you, it seems boring. To them, hours, competitiveness, it changes so many lives. That's why most athletes, even no matter what they do, they're competitive. Yep.

You've been competitive for so long. How do I turn it off? Yep. And you can't turn it off in a relationship. See, and that's where we can't be competitive. The competitive part of us can't be competitive in the relationship. No. But see, Gil, for me, I always understood. I always understood.

I never lost sight of. They applauded what I did, not who I was. And see, football was what I did. That's not who I am. So I never lost sight of that. So once you understand your place, you'll be fine. Because eventually the applause and the adulation is going to stop. You walk on another job, people are like, hey,

80,000 ain't about to cheer. Ain't about to cheer Shannon Shaw walking down the street. And you're never going to get that high that you got around running out in that stadium. When you run out to the arena or they call and a guard, a six foot four, 200 pounds from Arizona, Gilbert. Nothing feels that. Nope. But I get the same high. I get the same high when I do a great conversation. I don't even look at, hey, I don't care.

I leave, I say, CJ, I put everything I had into that one. Yep. I know everybody ain't going to like everybody that I interview, but you best believe I gave it everything I had. I left no stone unturned as far as with CJ and I from researching and trying to get to and to try to get the person to open up just like I did in football.

I studied my ass off. I watched tape over and over again because I wanted to be the best. I didn't get into this thing just to get a check. Yeah, I know I can just do this and no, no, I want to be the best. I want people to come.

Man, I can't wait to nightcap come. Man, I can't wait to see, hey, who club Shay Shay interviewing this week, man? I can't wait. That's what I want. Just like when those 80,000 fans in Denver, they wanted to see me in that lineup and they wanted to hear my name called and to run out that tunnel.

That's what drives me is to be the best in this space. Hey, I don't compare myself with what he does. That ain't got nothing to do with me. I compare myself to what I believe

I can get to. That's the only thing I can compare myself to. I can't compare myself because I don't know what they're doing. In fact, that's... I can just only imagine. That's why they worry about nobody was taking my job because I know when nobody was doing what I was doing. No, no, no, no, no, no.

No way. No way. No way. Ask any of my teammates in Baltimore. Ask any of my teammates in Baltimore. Ask any of my teammates in Denver. Did anybody train and was the first thing they're going to say? I ain't never met anybody as disciplined as Shannon Sharp. I never. I'm the same way right now.

I go to bed thinking about, hey, I okay how do we get back how do we get better how do we beat last last episode mm-hmm CJ how do we be how do how do how do I do what okay what did what questions could I've asked that I did I'm not talking about the views the views speak for themselves yep Some people might like it. They tell their friends. Some people might not. But how do I get better? Because all I'm doing is comparing

myself to last week. That's the only thing I can compare myself to. But that's what I need people to understand. People talk about they want to be great. No, you don't. Y'all just talking. Y'all think somebody's just going to head, like, just all of a sudden, you're just going to roll out of bed and be great. It doesn't work like that.

That is a lifetime. Some people are born great. Some people have greatness thrust upon them. It only matters what you do with the greatness that you have. Nothing else matters. Gil, how many times do you know somebody

you went to school with, you grew up with, had more talent than Gil? I know a lot of guys had more talent than Shannon. What does that say? Man, hey, I used to go back home all the time, Gil.

Hey, Shark, tell them, couldn't I have run you? Shark, wasn't I stronger than you? Shark, hey, Shark, tell them. Okay. What you want? Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Sean, hey, Sean, tell him. Okay. What you want? Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Shannon is the first time, our first team all pro for the third straight year. Shannon just had his third straight season of 1,000 yards. Yes, yes. At that point in time, yes. But what does that even mean? Nothing. You should be embarrassed to say that you were better than I was at one point in time I'm there and you're here

so you think they looking at him like bro do you realize what you just said but that's why I big him that's why people like that I big him up oh yeah he was way better than me oh my god he should have been there get right back in my mate bag and get the fuck on out of there

yeah this could have been there. Get right back in my mate bag and get the fuck on out of there. Yeah. This could have been him. That's exactly right. We all have those stories. Daniel Gafford is now 33 of his last 33 over the last five games. He's only three straight field goals away from Wilt Chamberlain's consecutive field goals made. Wilt made 35 straight.

Daniel Gafford. Daniel Gafford. I think last year he was with the Wizards. He's with the Wizards and now he's on the Mavericks. I thought you were talking football. No, hell nah. Daniel Gafford.

Hey, Daniel Gafford is now 33 of 33 over his last five games. He's three field goals away, main field goals away consecutively from passing Will Chamberlain's record. Will Chamberlain had made 35 consecutive. He's three away from making 30. Hey, I get it.

People say, man, he ain't doing nothing but dunking the layup. I don't give a damn. You go out there. I tell you what. You go out there. I bet y'all could just put you up under the basket. You probably couldn't make 30.

I'm talking to the average person. And you probably couldn't make 35 in a row. Listen, listen. Get it, right? This might be the biggest thing he ever did right i'm gonna just be honest with you because obviously he's gonna take shots that he know he can meet at this point in time yeah he might get it because he just needs three field goals and if they're not wide wide open i ain't doing nothing don'ts if i ain't got no dogs iks. If I ain't got no dunks, I'm going to pass it out, Gil. No, no.

It's going to be one of those where if he ain't getting a real, real good look at it, he probably average, what, three, two points a game? Yeah. What Daniel Gafford average of that? Probably – because that's the thing. I mean, think about it, Gil. I'm about to break a record. I'll be able to tell my grandkids, I broke a record of real Chamberlain had.

Real Chamberlain? What record you broke a will? Oh, he ain't bad. 11 and 8. He averaged 11 and 8. Oh, okay. All right. Okay. I mean, obviously, I'm going to have to

report on it any goddamn way, So I'll do my research then. Yeah. Check this out. Steve Kerr believes the Warriors can make a deep playout run. I really feel strongly that our team is primed. If we can really stay healthy down the stretch, get Steph back, I feel like we can make a really good run. Man, he needs to be drug tested. If they're doing drug

testing on coaches, they need to do that right now ASAP. Listen, they are the champs. When they get into the playoff, they are deadly, but they have to understand one thing. They have two-star player or they have a second option and a third option. That's just not playing very well this year. Right.

Kamingo's the second option now. Kamingo's taking that role over. Kamingo, you still got Wiggins who's not playing very well. If he thinks they're just going to turn it on in the playoffs just for the whole 16 games, something's wrong with him.

I'm sorry. It's just not one of those things that's going to happen, right? That you guys and playing. I mean, if Clay played 15 games great this year, I'll be surprised. I don't know the last time anybody's talked about Wiggins having a great game. So that you're going to need these two players in the playoffs. And if you're counting for them to be great for 16 games to win a championship or to even go deep, I have something wrong with you. I mean, for the Warrior fans, great speech. Reality, sorry.

Yeah, I don't see it either. I haven't seen any indication of, I mean has Klay played 15 great games this year? I don't think so. I mean, obviously, Kaminga. Kaminga is their second best player. Yeah, yeah, no. He's took the bull by the horns on this one. Yeah, he's their second best player.

Athletic, rangy guy. Shots getting better. Obviously, he can finish at the player. Athletic, rangy guy. Shots getting better. Obviously, he can finish at the rim, has explosive, a leaping ability. Shooting the three ball better. Springy. Okay, I'm counting on him and Steph. But I'm doubling Steph. I'm going to get the ball out of Steph's hands.

It's easier said than done. I'm trapping his ass. I wouldn't. The reason I wouldn't is you don't want to double him and you're coming off Klay and Wiggins and then they start getting confidence. I want them to just, I'm going to play, let Steph get his 30-40,

knowing that the other two players are just going to be dead. They're going to be dead fish over there. Yeah. This is trying to double step. Steph still gets his 25, and now Klay got some life. I'm not giving you no life. I'm going to let you,

you're going to have to beat me one-on-one. Hey. No. Because, let's see, Klay is 3 of 13, Andrew Wiggles is five of 12. I ain't got no lack of it. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.

In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency.

It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.