Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Kirk Cousins to Atlanta, Saquon Barkley to Philadelphia, Dallas doesn't go "all-in"

Episode Date: March 12, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Kirk Cousins signing with the Falcons, Saquon Barkley signing with the Eagles, and discuss what's next for Justin Fields after not finding a home. 0:00 Introduction3:00 Unc talks about Club Shay Shay wins iheartRadio award5:00 Kirk Cousins heading to Falcons15:50 Where could Justin Fields land?18:30 Saquon Barkley heading to Eagles30:00 Cowboys release Tony Pollard32:45 Tee Higgins requests trade and Joe Mixon gets released35:45 Unc says the Bengals should’ve ceased their opportunity to win a Super Bowl38:15 Brian Burns traded to Giants44:15 Dunk on Unc #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I won the iHeart Club Che Che, not I. Club Che Che won Sports Podcast of the Year. So I want to thank iHeart. And Ocho, I really wanted to win this award, not for me, but because I understand that when people see Club Che Che, the first person they automatically think of is Shannon Sharp. But it's so many more people that make sure that Club Che Che is not only able to be seen, but to be heard. And so this was my opportunity to thank some of them, to thank the CJs, to thank the Alisas, to thank Shelly for you know booking travel for everyone for Savannah

to making sure you know the advertisers and doing the reads and all that stuff is impromptu on time everybody from makeup to bread and jumpsuit to do my makeup and sometimes the guys come in and they want to get part you know knock some of the shine off them so this was my opportunity

to thank a lot of people that make Club Che Che possible so I want to thank i lot of people that make club Shea Shea possible. So I want to thank our heart for making that possible. Thank the volume, Colin Believeman and Stephen A. Because Stephen A., when I first got to first take, he's like, I'm going to build you a graphic. I'm going to have ESPN to build you a graphic. So when you see it in the background, not only is it going to say three time Super Bowl champ, Pro Football Hall of Famer,

it's also going to say Club Shea Shea. So I want to thank Stephen A. for that. And so, Osho, I won the award, I think. I did the interview after and I came over here. And so while everybody's over there partying, because they're still over there having a party, I'm like, you know what? I got to work with you. Yeah, yeah. We got work

to do. Listen, congratulations well deserved uh you have a great team behind you and i'm happy for you but this is only just the beginning this is only just the beginning of one of many awards that you're gonna win that we're going to win yeah and it's gonna uh well we just we just shaken that we ain't even got we ain't even got to the earthquake yet we ain't got to the earthquake yet it's going to... We just shaking that. We ain't even got to the earthquake yet. We ain't even got to the earthquake yet. It's coming. We're just going to keep putting out great content and interesting content,

being true to who we are. This is what you see is what you get with us. The thing is that we get to talk about whatever we want to talk about as long as we want to talk about it. And so I think that's what the... Our viewing audience, our listening audience, I think that's what they love so much about us is that we want to talk about it. And so I think that's what our viewing audience, our listening audience, I think that's what they love so much about us is that

we're our authentic selves and we get to talk about things that they're talking about but they get to hear it from us, from our perspective. Ocho, check this out. We got a special, special surprise for you later in the show tonight. Wait, for me? Yeah, bro. Wait, hold on. I like surprises, man. I know you do.

You're going to be surprised. You're going to be surprised. You're going to be surprised. Wait, for real? But that's coming later. Yes, that's coming later. But first, it's time for our first segment of the night, and it's called News Cap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kirk Cousins agrees to a four-year deal,

a four-year $180 million contract with Atlanta Falcons. That deal includes a $50 million signing bonus, another monster payday for Cousins, who gets $110 million guaranteed, and it's a fresh start for him in Atlanta. Kirk Cousins has now made $330 million guaranteed dollars. Oh, yeah. All the while, he's won one playoff game.

Yeah. All this notion is about winning and what can – I don't want to hear that. Because our listening and viewing audience knows that is some good job. You paid this man $330 million, million Ocho yeah one playoff win so this notion we play quarterbacks based on what we believe they can do well we we we we got it we got the results right here yeah well listen it's Kirk Cousins is a very very very very good regular season quarterback he's been very efficient his numbers has always good. And all the teams when he was in Minnesota, obviously when he was in Minnesota,

the numbers were very, very good. When he was with, when he was with Washington, I don't want to, I don't want to say the commanders. When it was the commanders, Kirk Cousins is one of the few quarterbacks that said,

you know what? I'm going to bet on myself. I'm going to bet on myself. And every time he's better than himself. And every time he's come out on the winning end. He's come out on the winning end, regardless of playoff success, regardless of his record. He does have a winning record as well, even though he's not a perennial playoff quarterback. I think he's 78 and 72 in his career. Yeah, that that that that would be somewhat winning. And it's funny, depending on who the person is, the numbers actually don't matter. They don't matter because, and that's how bad the quarterback

market is because he's so efficient during the regular season. His numbers are really good based on the supporting cast that he always has around them. He looks great, which is why I think they continue to pay him because you know what you get when you have him at the helm. He just has no playoff or Super Bowl success. Well, numbers don't matter if we don't want them to matter. Ah, it depends on... Listen, the goalposts move depending on the individual you're talking about. The goalposts continuously move. Hey, we pay you based on what you've been able to do for us. What have you done for me lately is the NFL motto, correct? Yes.

Especially at the skill position and especially at the quarterback position. Right. For Kirk Cousins, one thing he's always done, he's one of God's child. He's one of God's children. Chosen people. He's one of them chosen ones, and he's always cashed in. He's a good dude, man. He's a good dude. He's a good dude. ones and he's always cashed in. He's a good dude, man. He's a good dude. He's a good dude. It's going to be

interesting to see. I would have read a pretty penny that Justin Fields would be a better fit in Atlanta than Cousins. But I know Mr. Blank a little bit. Different style. Different style.

Very different styles. And I think the thing is that Mr. Blank a little bit. Different style. Different style of the quarterbacks too now. Very different styles. Right. And I think the thing is that Mr. Blank and I don't know who the GM is there, is that, look, it's like we got Kyle Pitts, we got Drake London, we got B. John Robinson. We want somebody that can distribute the football. Right. You understand what you're getting with him now.

So you're not under no illusions that he's going to rush for 500 yards. You're not under those illusions. No. So you know exactly what you're going to get. Your expectations is what they are. Now, so when you look at that division, Ocho, you look at Tampa, Baker Mayfield, you look at the Saints, you got Derek Carr,

you look at the Falcons, you got Cousins, you look at the Carolina. You got Derek Carr. You look at the Falcons. You got Cousins. You look at the Carolina Panthers. You got Bryce Young. Yeah. I mean, it's anybody's division. Except Carolina, because I don't know if I need to see Carolina. What pieces that they're going to add? They got to make a splash.

They got to make a splash in free agency and they got to make a splash in the draft. They have to. They have to put some fellas around that young fella, that young bull out there in Carolina, in Bryce Young. But what I like about the move for Kirk Cousins going to Atlanta is the fact that Drake London watched his numbers this year. Kyle Pitts, he hasn't had a year. He hasn't looked like what we think he was supposed to look like up to this point. But this year, he's going to put up crazy, crazy numbers. Crazy numbers because one thing

that Kirk Cousins could do is he can distribute the ball and he's going to sling it. Right. He's going to sling it. The thing you got to do, you got to protect him though. Yeah. Because he doesn't have his capabilities. Yeah. So you got to protect it.

You've got to protect him. So he's not a guy that has great improvisational skills. He's not a guy that if you look at guys, let's just say for the sake of argument, you take a Mahal, you take a Lamar, you take a Burrell, you take Josh Allen, you take guys that you can throw away to script, they can get off script and still make plays. I'm not so sure that's what he is i think based on his body of work and me watching him he's not a guy that

gets off script very often he's a guy that needs a go here to go but as far as improvisation the plate breaks down and i need you to make you know chicken salad out of chicken you know what right that is what he is yeah i think most of the time what we will see from him, if things get a little haywire, I think he will use his legs. Now, things are a little bit different now with him coming off that Achilles injury, but I think he will be able to distribute the ball efficiently. And the fact with B. John Robinson there, which I'm sure they're going to utilize even more than what they did last year

to kind of not cover up for Kirk's injury but to protect him a little bit based off of it and just use the run to open up the pass and I think they're going to be just fine. Offensively, man, they're going to do crazy numbers

now. They're going to do crazy numbers. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. So now we got Cousins off the market. He's in Minnesota. We got Baker Mayfield. He returns to Tampa. I just read Jacoby Brissett.

He's signing a one-year deal with the New England Patriots. So that's three of the quarterbacks that were free agents. Oh, Garner Minshew. He goes to the Raiders. To the Raiders. Yeah. And we got and go ahead basically jacoby jacoby brissett is going to win that battle against zappy so jacoby brissett is basically the starting quarterback for new england um the bears have

reportedly yet to shot justin fields within the nfl free agent friends in full swing because it opens the league year starts on Wednesday. The quarterback opening round of the league has been filled in. Rappaport reported that the Bears haven't held serious trade talks involving Fields. They're waiting and not yet fully comfortable with Caleb

Williams yet. What are the Bears doing? Because you hear a lot of different things, Ocho. That's smoking mirrors, Uncle. You know that, baby. You know that. That ain't nothing but smoke and mirrors. Caleb is one of the most sought out after draft pick coming out into the draft.

And that's all smoke and mirrors. All smoke and mirrors. You know what the Bears doing. You know what the Bears doing. They're not showing their hand. They know exactly where they're going with their first pick. Goddamn Ray Charles can see that.

Stevie Wonder can see that. And I mean, no disrespect to them. You know, they're playing game. They're playing mind games. They're trying to wait for the right call, the right opportunity, and to get the right conversation. But you're harming yourself, though, Ocho. You think so?

These positions are getting built. Teams are taking the quarterbacks. Teams are taking the quarterbacks. But are taking the quarterbacks, but again, we talk about Justin Fields. I still think there are a lot of people... Can he go to Atlanta? No, he can't go to Atlanta. That's where I thought he was going. I thought he was going to Atlanta, honestly.

So, now, can he go? Do you think he can go to New England? Is that a possibility after the COVID percent? I mean, no. The Raiders might be still in play. Regarding Minshew, they still might be in play. But Ocho, here's the thing. Yes, sir. If houses on the market, and I want to sell my house, but all the houses are being bought up, at some point in time, you're like, well, damn, I might be stuck.

Hey, but this is one thing. Even if the houses are being bought up, there's a house that hasn't been bought yet that might be better than some of the ones that have been bought based on play style and what they can do. Being able to improvise, you know, being a dual threat, being able to throw, being able to run as well. So he might even be a better fit, even though that specific house hasn't been bought in reference to Justin Fields. So still, still he had the chance. I think it's very important that his next move or the Bears next move and also Justin Fields next move has to be their best move. Not just moving him just to move him, but

moving him for a reason with the cause so we can be successful because the change of scenery is always good because you know what you get with Justin Fields. Look here, if I'm selling you a car, I don't give a damn if it don't crank tomorrow. That ain't got nothing to do with me. You bought it. So you talking about me

trading him where he could be successful. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Oh yeah, yeah. Honestly, wherever he goes, he gonna be successful. He's going to be able to change the franchise. Now, am I talking about, is he like this franchise changing type quarterback? No, but he's a quarterback that you know that you that you can play with one that can win one that can make plays.

And if he goes to a team, if he goes to a team that has a good running back and a decent receiving core, it can get scary. It can get nice. OK, think about the place. OK, he can't go to Buffalo. No. Is he going to the Jets with Aaron Rodgers there? No. Is he going to Miami with Tua? No, no, no.

Okay, you don't... Because they're getting ready to pay Tua, no. Okay, you don't believe... He's at Justin Fields. Justin Fields is the starting quarterback. Okay. And there's still, what, 28, 27 other teams. Okay, let's try to fill a few of them. Okay, you don't believe he can go to New England?

No, because they just signed Brissette. Pittsburgh an option? No, because Russell is there now. Is Cleveland an option? Absolutely. Deshaun is there. Is Cincinnati an option? You know, Dan will. Is Baltimore an option?

No. Okay, let's go to that. Okay, is Jacksonville an option? No, they got Trevor Lawrence and they just bought in Matt Jones. Okay, let's go to that. Okay, is Jacksonville an option? No, they got Trevor Lawrence, and they just brought in... Matt Jones. Okay, is any an option? They just took Richardson with the third pick. Is that an option?

No, no, no, no. Okay, is the Houston Texans an option? Oh, shit. Oh, boy, we should get serious now, right? Okay, Tennessee. It's Tennessee. Tennessee might be in play, right? Okay, that's one.

They got Will Levis. No, they got Will Levis and the backup. They got Malik. Damn. Malik Willis. Okay. Okay. Let's just set that to the side.

That's a possibility. Okay, let's go into the AFC West. Denver. Ah, now we talking. Okay. Now we talking. We making some noise. Kansas City.

No. No, no, no, no. The Chargers. No. No. Okay, no, no. The Chargers? No. No. Okay, we got Denver. The Raiders in Denver. Yeah. Raiders, Denver.

Raiders, Denver, and Tennessee. Three possible. Tennessee? I still believe Tennessee. I believe Justin Fields is better than anything they have. That's just me. Some might disagree. So you don't like Will Levis?

I like Will Levis. Not more than I like Justin Fields. Okay. We know the Eagles are an option. No. Washington seems to be in play for one of these three. Uh-uh. They're drafting a quarterback. Okay. They're not giving up that third pick of the draft. They're drafting their

quarterback. Okay. Okay. Cowboys, no go. The Giants, maybe. Hey, even if they did just pay Daniel Jones all that money, that might be a good look now. That might be a good look. That's no disrespect to Daniel Jones. NFC South,

we just named those quarterbacks. We know nothing that NFC South is doing. Yeah, right. NFC North, Green Bay, Jordan. Absolutely not. Okay. ComeC North. Green Bay. Jordan. Absolutely not. Okay. Come on now. The Lions. No.

No, no. No. Jared Goff. No. Jared Goff is playing too goddamn well. Okay. The Bears is already in that division, so they're looking to draft a quarterback number one. Minnesota.

Is Minnesota in play? Bingo. Do you trade them within the division? They're the third team. Do you trade them within the division? They're the third team. Do you trade them within the division? Do you think the teams care about that? Yes, they do.

You think so? Yeah. Normally, they try to put your ass in a different conference. They ain't trying to trade you within the conference, let alone within the division. Well, hell, if you don't want to trade, if you feel that much about me and think if you value that much, were you scared to trade me in the conference? Well, god damn,

why are you trying to get rid of me in the first place? Let me ask you a question. I know you don't want to lose your lady, but do you want to lose her to the next door neighbor or do you want to lose a guy out of another state? I like that. That's a good analogy. Hey, I don't want to lose you,

but if you're going, you got to go. You can't go next door. Right, right, right. You can't go in the same subdivision. Right. So I just think the thing is that, I mean, it's coming down, and to see, it's going to be very interesting.

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I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way

to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?

No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask Attorney General... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane,

I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Eagles are signing Saquon Barkley. They gave him three years, $37.75 million.

Saquon joins the rival. We've seen this before. We see T.O. lead the Eagles, go to the Cowboys. Cowboys. We see Prime lead the Cowboys, go to Washington. So, excuse me, this is not abnormal, but we don't see it often. Often, yeah. His number places him behind Christian McCaffrey,

who still has the highs at $16 million. Alvin Kamara at $15 million. Jonathan Taylor, I think, is about $14 million. And Saquon is slightly behind that. The Giants opted not to place the franchise tag on Barkley for the second straight year, which would have cost them $12.1 million. Saquon, here's where

it gets interesting. Tiki Barber posted he tore into Saquon for the decision to sign with the rival Eagles, saying he's dead to us now. You're dead to us Saquon. That's what Tiki Barber

tweeted. Saquon shot by at Tiki Barber. Yo, LOL. Yo, you're the prime example of loyalty to a team. Baker Barkley shot back on social media. I got the deal I wanted. Secure more guaranteed money,

which was given to me before, so if the fans gonna hate me for that, so be it. But I've never turned my back on my teammates, and I've always had theirs. At Tiki Bar, you've been a bit of a hater since I got to New York. All the dead talk to me. Don't smile in my face

when you see me. Ooh. First of all, congratulations, Saquon. Congratulations, Saquon. He is, he's from Pennsylvania. So he went to Penn State. Yeah. Right back home.

Right back home. Listen, if the New York Giants valued Saquon Barkley the way they should have for what he's able to do and what he can do, I can see the skill set. Everyone else has seen the skill set.

Philadelphia is going to show you that you shouldn't have got rid of him, and he's going to show you this season. You know what you get with him. Right. Out the backfield, catching, running, off tackle, stretch, hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere on the field. That's the type of player he is. But, oh, now Tiki want to make noise.

You should have shot shots at the Giants organization but not taken care of him when he asked the first time. Talk about you dead to me. You should have tweeted to the Giants that. Tiki should have tweeted to the Giants. You know what? Y'all dead to me because you're understanding how dynamic this individual is.

How dynamic and the game changer that Saquon Barkley is is the fact that y'all don't even want to pay him. But now Saquon leaves and goes to Philly. Now Tiki wants to talk about

you dead to me. Matter of fact, it's so funny. Hey, but it was more in a playful manner. But the Giants, not the Giants, the Bengals got stones from Baltimore. Yeah. And Lamar said, hey, you did to me.

Yeah. Hey, that was so funny. But obviously, they were just playing. They were just playing. Two years, seven. Lamar Jackson also tweeted a picture of Tiki and Saquon. He said, you're dead to us, Saquon. Good luck to me.

You're dead to me. My new quote, you're dead to me. I guess LJC, that's what he's going to be using. I don't get it. I mean, but that's what happens. So if you see, so imagine, if players feel that way, how do you think the fans feel when they've been so invested 10, 15, 20, 30, 40, 50 years? Now you see why the fans.

Hey, you don't want to pay the guy. Hey, I'm going to be cool. I'm going to be cool. Hey, any of my guys that left Denver or left Baltimore and got more money, I'm still going to be cool. I ain't going to be good. Hey, man, You should have stayed and took that little bit of money they offered.

Nah. From what I've been reading, they didn't even offer Saquon. Nah. They probably didn't. They probably didn't because if they wanted to pay him, they would have paid him the first time because you know what you get. You know what you get. There's no reason to play with him. Right. Listen, they don't value the quarterback position the way they once did.

Yeah, my bad. They don't value the quarterback. the way they once did. The running back. The running back. Yeah, my bad. They don't value the quarterback. Oh, my God. What is wrong with me? I'm talking too damn fast. Let me slow down a little bit. They don't value the running back position the way they once did because the game has changed. It's a passing league now.

But again, he is dynamic. He is different. He's in a class of his own along with maybe three other running backs in the NFL. That's the type of guy you pay. I have a question for you, who was the best offer the threat for the Giants last year?

Stay quiet. It ain't rocket science. But see, here's the thing. It ain't rocket science. This is what we know. Quarterback is the only position that'll get paid based on what potential, based on what we think he can do.

All the other positions got to prove it to your force. Running back, wide receiver, offensive line, D-line, corner. Everybody else must prove it, not the quarterback. Because what is Daniel Jones proving? Listen, in Daniel Jones jones situation you know

when they say timing is everything when they tell you timing is everything that is the prime example of daniel jones situation where there was no there was nowhere else to go but there was nowhere else available they had his fifth year option they could have picked up his fifth year option just guaranteed that and they'd have been home free. But Aaron DeVay was saying, nah, we want to lowball you. Do this. And now, what you got in your hand? Now you got to make a decision. You might have $40 million in dead cap

space dealing with Daniel Jones if you don't keep him. And you know what's funny? They don't have a problem with that. They don't have a problem with it. They don't have a problem with the dead cap space. But until the Giants find consistent quarterback play, nothing's going to work. Nothing's going to work. And I like Daniel Jones. I like Daniel Jones. And I like the supporting cast he has around him. And he should be fine. He should be fine. He should be fine. Daniel Jones is what he is. That's not nice is That's not nice That's not nice It is what it is I mean hey

That's not nice I'm not going to allow I'm not going to allow you To put perfume Lipstick And a dress on a pig And tell me she That's Miss America

I'm not going to let you do it I'm not going to let you tell me If we put weapons around Daniel Jones All of a sudden He's going to turn into This great quarterback He is what he is

Okay I like what you just said. Did you hear what you just said? Yes. You put great weapons around a quarterback that's mediocre, that quarterback begins to look exceptionally well. Excuse me. You put great weapons around. Matter of fact, how about learn how to use the goddamn players you got?

Learn how to use Sterling Shepard. Learn how to use Jalen Hyatt. Learn how to use some of the goddamn tools you had to make other people's job around you easy then you wouldn't be in this damn situation no it don't matter what type of gun i give you if you don't know how to shoot it it's worthless to you so i can give you all these i can give so what good of cars i can give you a bugatti i can give you a rose i can give you a range i can give you a g wagon but if you don't know how to drive what good are they right they nice to look at

you right you right you right look at this look at tyrod taylor and the two games that he got in there look how he made those same weapons that Daniel Jones looked lost and guys were frustrated. Look how they look with Tyrod. Tyrod is still with the Giants, right? I don't know. He might be a free agent. I'm not sure. That's someone that they need to bring back

just for insurance purposes in case things don't go well. Obviously, Daniel Jones somewhat of a, I don't want to use the word injury prone. I don't like saying that. But just coming off that injury, I think having Tyrod Taylor there to be able to be a backup once again if things don't go the way they should. Right. The all-in Cowboys lose Tony Pollard, Dorrance Armstrong, day one of NFL free agency. The Dallas Cowboys could have created cap space

by extending Dak, who's entering the final year of his deal with a cap hit of $59.4 million. Instead, Jerry did nothing in regards to the cap and watched Tyler Biotis, running back Tony Pollard, and edge rusher Dorrance Armstrong

all agree to terms to go elsewhere. The same is likely going to happen to left tackle Tyron Smith. Let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. How the all-in looking?

How the who? The all-in that Jerry Jones said he going all-in this year. How the looking? You know what? The all-in ain't start yet. I don't know when he going to crank it up,

but it ain't start yet. I mean, I'm assuming he going to make a splash. When he going to make it, I'm not sure. Is he going to make the splash in free agency or is he going to make the splash in the draft? Somewhere, the words all in has to come into play. We just don't know because he's not showing his hand yet. He's not showing his hand yet.

Hey, maybe the splash might be all in. Maybe Derrick Henry would have started on his helmet. What do you think? I look at it like maybe he's talking about we've signed. But there's no possible way. You're going to sign CD and you're going to sign Micah with that

number at 59 million. You got to do something. CD, listen, CD, Justin Jefferson, and Jamar Chase, everybody's playing a game of chicken because I want to see. Oh, they're waiting. They're waiting. They're waiting. They're waiting. You go, then I'm going to get one of them you got

and then he going to go and I'm going to get more than all of them. So that's what... Right, right, right. Nobody was like, hey, we just sit back and we're going to see.

See, these like... Everybody's trying to get to that Tyreek. Everybody's trying to get into that 30 mil bracket. That 30 mil. Yeah. Because Tyreek is out there.

See, they say, hey, y'all see what I did. I led the NFC in catches, yards, and 52nd in touchdowns. Right. I'm saying the NFC, not the league. He led the league. Tyreek led the league in yards.

And I forget who led the league in touchdowns. It may have been Tyreek. But so I'm just saying, how do you sign all of those guys when you got a quarterback that's counting $60 million, don't you? And you know, hold on. Did you see what Stone Cold Jones, Chris Jones got? Oh, yeah. So what do you think, Micah? What do you think Micah's thinking?

Well, whoa. Okay, you're right. You're right. But I have a question Well, yes, Micah is on that tier Let me stop, but that's a D tackle now D tackle's in The end, he looking at D You see, pull up

Pull up Joey Bosa's number And what's the other one? Miles Garrett. Let's pull up their numbers. That's what he's looking at. They make 21 a year, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think if I'm not mistaken off the top of my head,

I think they make 21 a year. But that Chris Jones and that Aaron Donald, Chris Jones, that them D-tackles, that's different type of money, boy. That's different type of money. Can the defensive ends and linebackers's different type of money, boy. That's different type of money. Can the defensive ends and linebackers command that kind of dollar? Yeah.

We got to look and see. Look and see. Asher's pulling up a Joey Bosa contract and Miles Garrett. Right. And I think both of those guys are like 100 million guaranteed.

Yeah. And you know the funny thing about it? And Mike is what? Like 24, 25? Yeah, this is the cream of the crop too These is the cream of the crop So they can command that kind of money man Yes

Jerry gonna figure it out I'm not sure how But you know how owners do You know how they do Joey Bolton got 5 years 135 million 105 guaranteed Michael Parsons says I'm gonna need more than that What did Miles Garrett get years, $135 million, $105 guaranteed.

Michael Parsons says, I'm going to need more than that. What did Miles Garrett get? All I know is Michael's going to want more than $105. He's probably looking at $5, $155, $175. That's Michael. He's going to reset the market.

For sure. I think David Muguleta is his agent. Yes, sir. He might be looking to get 40 a year. Miles Garrett got five years, 125, 100 million guaranteed. Bosa comes behind

him, gets an extra 10 million with an extra 5 million more guaranteed. Now, you got to realize when these deals were signed. That was two years ago. Look at where the cap is now. Yeah. It's going to continue to grow.

That $105,000, Micah's going to probably look to get $125,000. And he's going to probably look to get north of $150,000. That's the great thing about the NFL. And that's the great thing about the cap. And that's the great thing about the cap. It's going to always go up. Now, hold on. It's going to always go up. What you going to do with that?

You see, Cousins just got 45 a year. He just got 50 million to sign, 100 million guaranteed. What's Dak looking for? Whisper it in my ear. 60. 60. Okay. 60, and I ain't talking about rolling hold on yeah oh cd oh he gonna be looking to get 89 and tyree got 77 guaranteed right so he got to reset the mark. But listen, CD Chase

and Jefferson, they all sit back like this. Somebody got to set it off. But see, I don't want to sit it off, Ocho, because I know everybody looking at Ocho. Somebody got to set it off.

I don't want to be first. I know y'all looking at me. See, if I let y'all see my outfit, y'all going to run back and change your outfit and get something better than mine. I don't want that to happen, Ochoa. I don't want that to happen. Yeah. All right, that's going to be good, man. I'm excited for them boys, man.

I'm excited for them boys. So am I. Check this out, Ochoa. T. Higgins requests a trade from the Bengals after no progress on a long-term deal. If he gets his way, T. Higgins will be playing football somewhere else other than Cincinnati next season. He requested a trade because the team has not had any discussion

about a long-term contract extension. The Bengals placed a franchise tag on Higgins, which he said to make $21.8 million on the tag. But of course, that only secures him one year of financial security.

And also, the Bengals cut Joe Mixon and signed Zach Moss to a two-year, $8 million contract. Man, they cut my dog Mix, man. Yeah, yeah. He ain't in the mix no more. Come on, man. Golly, boy. Man, he just took a pay cut just to come back.

Mm-hmm. See? You see what he did now? Wait, he just took a pay cut. Listen, I want to be a team player. I want to keep the band together so we can make another run. He took a pay cut just to come back, and I ain't even know that. I know.

Who on your team? What do you say? Team Ocho. Rail and my kids. That's my team. Damn, man. Fuck, I love Mixon. I know he's going to land somewhere.

Zach Moss. I like Zach. I like Zach. I like Zach. Nothing bad to say about him. They're different backs. Yeah, yeah. Completely different.

But T. Higgins' situation, I think one thing that the Bengals always do very well, they've always done very well, is they're going to have them some goddamn receivers. It's one thing about them, they're going to always have them some receivers and always come into issues like this. You got, to me, honestly, this is the way I view Tee, and this is the way I view Jamar Chase.

The Bengals were very fortunate to have two number ones on the field. Very fortunate. Different styles of play, two different receivers. No, it's a million ways to skin a cat. But to me, they had two number one wide receivers in T. Higgins and Jamar Chase. I mean, not Jamar Chase. T. Higgins deserved to be paid like a number one receiver.

Sometimes everybody can't stay. No, receiver. Sometimes everybody can't stay. No, exactly. Sometimes everybody can't stay. And what Tee is deserving of is that number one got their money. Now, as much as I love my Bengals, as much as I love my Bengals,

Tee is deserving and being paid like the player that he is. And that's the number one because on any other team, because you know how you talk to people, you talk to. And that's the number one. Because on any other team, because you know how you talk to people, you talk to casual fans that love the game, they'll say, oh, Jamar Chase is number one

and he's the number two. Hell, hell shit, no, you got me fooled. Them two number ones. And he deserves to be paid as such. So I understand his request to be, you know, ask for a trade because it's going to be hard. You just paid Joe. And you know, asked for a trade because it's going to be hard. You just paid

Joe and you know Chase, shit, boy, they're going to have to back the goddamn brink truck up out there in Cincinnati at pay call for Chase. You know, everybody can't fit. T, you can't take no hometown discount. Oh, no. You can't do that. Not on the first

contract. You got to strike while it's hot. Yeah, that's something you Not on the first contract. You gotta strike while it's hot. Yeah. That's something you do on the back end if you choose. I advise against it, but if you choose to do it, have at it. I think the thing is, Ocho, this is why when you get an opportunity to bite that apple, which is the Super Bowl, you gotta seize the moment.

You see, now there's a possibility you lose T. Higgins. You lost Jesse Bates. Mixon has gone away. Now, you believe that you replaced Mixon with Zach Moss, but the opportunities. Right. You know, see, if they were to tear this thing down with Kansas City,

you can't promote them. They're like, bro, we got three and five years. What more could you ask for? Yeah, they were there for the four. They could have had four and five years, but they got three and five years. A lot of this had to do with Patrick Mahomes and the money that he didn't get yeah because if if if they would have paid patrick mahomes said no i want my true value right you got to pay him 60 65 million and you got to give him 150 200 million dollars Right. But because he didn't do that,

but Clark Hunt assured him, we'll revisit this in a couple of years. Oh, yeah. They're going to keep doing it. They're going to keep doing it. But again, this is the one thing I like about the Bengals. The scouting department, Duke Tobin. Duke, I know you're going to see this.

They do a great job. Again, I'll say it again. When it comes to drafting motherfucking receivers, I'm a curse just so I can add a little flavor and seasoning to this statement. When it comes to drafting receivers, they don't miss. They do not miss. You know what Uncle Sam come take

their taxes out to check? That's the motherfucking bangles when it comes to drafting receivers. Now, there's somebody that they got their eye on. I don't know who it may be, or maybe they work out something with T. I'm not sure, but I know it's impossible. I know it's impossible to pay both of them.

T deserves what he deserves, but I know one thing. Their goddamn scouting department with the Bengals, brother Duke, they're going to draft somebody that can be able to fill the role. I'm not sure. Free agency, maybe through free agency, but I think more so in the draft. And listen, they

have a great core of receivers that are there right now that can fill the role. They won't be T. Higgins, but they are good. They're efficient. They've showed their ass this year that they can fill in when T. was out. The Giants trade for Panthers pass rusher Brian Burns gave him

$150 million. Okay, Gave him $150 million. He just got $150 million. What do you think Micah looking for? What do you think Micah looking for? Yeah, you're right. Micah is... I'm trying to figure out how to say it in a respectful way. Brian Burns is that boy.

You heard me? You want him or Micah? Micah, of course, but the fact that... We just basically... I agree with you, Ojo. First of all, I agree with I think the fact that he's in Carolina,

the fact that he's in Carolina, we don't understand how good and great Brother Burns is. Oh, yeah. Hey, that boy there? Boy, he could play some ball, man. He could play some ball.

He could play some goddamn ball off the edge. I like him, which is why he was able to command what he did, because when you turn the film on, it's one thing the film and the eye in the sky ain't going to do. It ain't going to lie to you. No. It ain't going to never lie to you. Carolina,

they lose Brian Burns. They get a second and a fifth from the Giants, but they just played a guard of $100 million. Yeah, the left guard, left guard, right? Yeah. They got him from the Dolphins, Robert Hunt. Afterwards, they allowed linebacker

Frankie Louisville to lead three years, $36 million to the commanders. Mm-hmm. Let's let you know they don't know if they do it. They previously turned down a pair of first round picks from the Rams. They turned down two first round picks

from the Rams for Brian Burns only to accept the second and the fifth. Yeah. So, listen, the fact that they turned down two firsts, right? What does that tell you about Brian Burns? That tells me they don't know the Carolina, I don't know the F they doing.

They don't know what they doing, but it also tells you the greatest and how they felt about Brian Burns and understanding how good he was. But at some point, at some point, you know what, this relationship is just really not working. It's not working. We're trying to show you how much we value you

But you know, when you show value You can show me that with the checkbook You show me that with the checkbook Show me how much you love me Show me how much you value me As a player in this organization And pay me what you know I deserve A lot of me

You know what I'm saying, a lot of me I don't know if you remember the conversation. I remember the conversation. I remember seeing the conversation. Oh, what you saying? A lot of me? A lot of me. Nikki Giovanni and James Baldwin was having a conversation.

Yes, sir. And James Baldwin was trying to explain to you. And she was telling him, a lot of me. She said, when you go down there to that white man's job, you smile in his face. You tell him how happy you are. Right. Knowing all the why's, you can't stand that man good. But you come home to me.

Right. I love you the most and get the least from you. Ooh. Brian Burns said, I gave you the most and you gave me your least. So lie to me. Even if you don't feel that way, give me a contract. Lie to me like you lie to everybody else.

You got to hold that goddamn thought. Boy, that was a good one. You hear me? Baby! Hey, bring me a pen and paper real quick. I got to write this shit down. It's all, it's all. You got to, look.

You got to say that. Let me put that in my nose. That was good, man. That was good. Yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen, I got a book. I got a book.

I'm saving all the notes you just said. That was a good one. I'm going to send you, I'm going to send you to what you call him. I'm going to send you the link where you can hear her having a conversation with James Baldwin and how she said that, you know,

she said, and she was telling him, James Baldwin said, if I love you, I can't lie to you. She said, sure you can. She said, you do it all the time. Right. Give it to me again. Give it to me again.

I'm going to put it in my nose. What you want? What you want? You said, you go down there every time. She said, you go down to that white man's job and you lie. You pretend you're smiling. You grinning at his face. And you pretend like you're so happy on the job.

You hate it all the while, but you come home to me. I love you the most and get the least from you. I don't take credit for that. Nikki Giovanni, she's at Virginia Tech.

Her and James Baldwin was having a conversation in the early 70s, and she was explaining to him. And she said, hey, and she said, look, and Billy Holiday, she said,

hush now, don't explain. I don't need you to explain why you love me. No, you don't understand. No, that is so simple,

but that's so good. In my next argument, I'm using that. And my next argument, I love you. Wait, I love you. Damn it. I love you the most, but I get the least from you. But I get the least, yes. I'm using that.

I love you the most, but I get the least. And I'm going to be very passionate about it. I'm going to be very passionate about it. Hey, I know I'm going to win because most of the time, you know, say happy wife, happy life. And I always say my favorite line when we get into it, I say, listen, you want to be

happy, you want to be right because you can't be both. But boy, when I hit it with that line, I love you the most, but I get the lease and I'm going to just walk off and let that shit marinate. I'm going to let it marinate. So if you walk off and you don't engage, the last thing that they have to think about is the last thing you said.

Yeah. You right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Don't worry about it. I got it.

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I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's time for the fan favorite, Ocho. You know what it is. It's time for the fan favorite. Oh, Joe, you know what it is. It's time for dunk on. Let's see if I can go perfect tonight. Now you ain't going perfect tonight because you didn't go perfect last night. Oh, hey, no way. Ain't no way. Let me see. Let me hold your hands. Let me see your hands Make sure you don't got no phone in your hands

I ain't got no phone in my hand Okay Who around you? Make sure ain't nobody around you Ain't nobody here but Jordan Jordan way across the room Okay Okay I got

I got a I got a Okay Here we go We ready? Jordan know less about football than Rayo Alright you ready? Yes Come on chat Stay with me now Which NFC team currently has modern rail. Alright, you ready? Yes.

Come on, Chas. Stay with me now. Which NFC team currently has the largest streak of playoff teams? One more time. Which NFC team currently has the longest streak of playoff appearances? Wow.

Which NFC team currently has a... That's a good one too and the funny thing about the answer I didn't even know it was them oh that's crazy don't do that why you cheating why you cheating the Browns.

NFC. Yeah. Which NFC team currently has the largest streak, largest streak of playoff appearances? You mean the longest. You mean the longest streak. Longest. I'm sorry. I said largest.

I'm sorry. Longest. Yeah. Longest. He's in a white face man I mean should we have a time limit Or should I just give you As much time as you want Okay let me

Oh Joe you got to think about it NFC got 16 teams Okay okay So I got to do process of elimination Alright matter of fact I'm going to let you do Do process of elimination Baby do me a favor Lift that light up a little bit It's not No no it's not Saints process of elimination. All right. Matter of fact, I'm going to let you do process of elimination.

Baby, do me a favor. Lift that light up a little bit. It's not. No, no. It's not Saints. It's not the Falcons. It's not Carolina. It's not the... I'm going to try to fix

my light in a little bit because my... Brady got one, two... Oh, no. Oh, no. That's too much. Never mind. Never mind.

Never mind. I got four. Oh, man. I don't know. I'm going to say Tampa. You don't know I'm going to say Tampa I'm going to say Tampa Okay, wait a minute Wait a minute Listen, listen, listen Let's stop right here

Now, I asked you for a specific answer I said Tampa What's the answer? The answer is the Buccaneers I asked you for a specific answer, so you have to be comfortable. What's the answer? The answer is the Buccaneers. They got fourth grade. Listen, how do you know? Nah, somebody told you.

Somebody told you in the background, man, y'all cheating over there, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Hey, this is what I did. That's why I said I got a process of elimination. I said Brady was there for three years. He went to the playoffs all three years he was there. And then one more year with Baker Mayfield.

So that's four. Right. The Eagles went to... So the Cowboys, they missed the playoffs, but they went... So I just... Process of elimination. I'm sorry. I ain't buying that. Somebody in here. Somebody in here. Somebody in here. You know, it took all that time. There are so many other teams that it could have been. You could have said in your ear. You know, it took all that time.

There are so many other teams that it could have been. You could have said the 49ers. You could have said the Cowboys because they always getting bounced, but you didn't say them. All of you just randomly just went to the bucks of all teams. Yes! Child, please. That's why I said

let me do process of elimination. Listen, the Buccaneers have made the playoffs four straight seasons, longest in the NFC, 49ers, Cowboys, and Eagles are all tied with three.

Yeah, I ain't, somebody on the back end cheating over there, man. Ocho, when I say Jordan knows less football than Real,

I ain't lying. Listen, y'all have gadgets and all type of technology over there. And somebody get a matter of fact, you know, you know, somebody could be doing what they could be writing the answer down and holding up on a paper for you when you when you when you ain't got it right. You know, you got an asterisk. You got an asterisk by the answer.

So we've had the Super Bowl. We walk by somebody. So many NFL players. He asked me, oh, who that? Now, he didn't Google. he done Googled what to say. Alright, next question. Does that count? Chat, does that count as an answer?

It took you an hour to answer. If this was a game show, you would have been, the clock would have went out. I'm going to get 20 seconds. Plus, you was reading it wrong. You said the largest. It's the largest. Largest, longest, you knew it. You knew what I mean.

Okay, come on. I'm going to get it. Come on, let's go. Question number two. There have only been two NFL seasons, only two, with both a 5,000-yard passer and a 2,000-yard rusher, one in 1984 and one in 2012. Name the quarterback and running back from each of those seasons.

Well, Dan Marino and E.D. did it because Dan was MVP and Eric Dickerson was the offensive player of the year. E.D. rushed for 21-05. Dan Marino threw for 5,084 with 48 touchdowns. Yeah, see, even I remember that. I bet you know the other two. I'm going to say... I'm going to say Drew Brees threw for 5,000

for the Saints. I'm going to say Chris Johnson rushed for 2,000 for the Tennessee Titans. You got half an answer right, though. And you know Drew because he threw for multiple 5,000-yard seasons, right? Oh, no, hell no. Jamal did that way before the end.

Which Jamal? Jamal Charles? No, Jamal Lewis. Okay. No, no. Hold on. Hold on. Let me go.

Let's see. 2,000. ED did it. Barry did it. TD did it, Chris Johnson did it Derrick Henry did it You're missing somebody DeMauro did it Barry did it

But Barry did it in 1997 Okay, but listen You got the first half right Dan Marino and Eric Dickerson But remember, the years I said, the key word, there have only been two NFL seasons with both a 5,000-yard pass in 2000. Big Ben? No, listen, stay with me now.

A 5,000-yard pass, a 2,000-yard rusher, one in 1984 and the other one in 2012. Yeah. 2012. So remember, Drew Brees, obviously, he's had multiple 5,000 yard seasons So that's one So think about the running back 2012 This is so easy

You ain't even name him He's arguably one of the best backs of all time Easily Oh, oh, oh, oh my god No, actually it wasn't Yes, yes it was It was Adrian Peterson. Bingo.

2000, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So you only got half the answer right. I missed that one. I missed that one, yeah. All right. Okay, here we go. Number three.

Oh, hey, this that boy too, boy. It's that boy, both of them. Which running back has the highest yards per carry average with a minimum of 750 Russian attempts in NFL History Which running back Has the highest yards per carry

Why you seem so disappointed Ocho Hell nah man You don't even know nothing about no running backs like that to know that answer like that off rip, man. Yeah. Nah, hell no. Is that right? Was I right?

Yeah, you right, man. Lift your hands up, man. I'm here right here. There's somebody back there helping you, man. How are we going to play a game of you cheating? Ocho, why would I cheat? Hey, answer the question. The same reason you be telling me I be cheating when I'm spelling,

when I know my words. Because I see you looking down. I ain't looking down. I'm looking right in the camera. The same reason you be telling me I be cheating when I'm spelling, when I know my words. Because I see you looking down. I ain't looking down. I'm looking right in the camera. You be looking down. You looking straight ahead and somebody behind your camera with the sign with the answers. You think Ash going to give me the answers?

You don't know Ash. Somebody going to give me the answers. Man, yeah. Listen, Jamal Charles with 5.5 yards per carry, followed by goddamn Nick Chubb with 5.3. Yes. Damn, man. Man, you cheating over there, man.

I wouldn't cheat, JoJo. Ocho, that's just that knowledge, man. I'm just telling you, Ocho. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You listen, you don't know more about football than me now. That's what we not going to do now. You don't do that. I tell you what, okay, how about this, Ocho?

Name the wide receivers that's been named Super Bowl MVP. Jerry Rice. Damn, what's my dog name? What's my dog name? I don't know. Wait, stay with me. I'm trying to remember names. Ward number 84 with the Patriots.

Young Bull, Young Bull. Deion Branch. Actually, he Ward number 83, but okay. 83, okay. 83, Deion Branch. Hines Ward. Damn, wait. Santonio? No, Santonio. That's all I know right now

See, it's easy to remember Because the Steelers have three And the Patriots have two Then it gets to where Okay, how far can you go back? Grant Swann Exactly Lance Swann

Hines Ward You're going way back Santonio Holmes You heard me say San Antonio right? Okay so I got four Deion Branch Julian Edelman Oh the Atlanta game

Yup No not the Atlanta game The Rams The Rams in Atlanta He acted a donkey Okay that's what I meant Okay that's what I meant. That's what I meant. Yeah.

Okay, that's what I meant. Okay, you're right. You're right. You're right for Jerry. Yeah. What's the other one? You never got this one. Hold on.

Let me think now. Give me, just give me a year. Or that's too much. I think it was 70, I'm going to say. 70? 77, I think. Come on I'm gonna say 70? 77 I think come on man are you 77? I'm man

77 I was in elementary how I'm supposed to know that Fred Belitnikoff hey Fred was nice with it too. It was the other one last one he was the last one the most recent you should get this one the most recent? yeah should get this one. The most recent? Yeah.

Receiver? Yes. Oh, Cooper. Yeah, Cooper. Yeah, I told you. See, I told you. But don't play me. I got that.

Hey, I know my head's small, but I got something in there now. Okay, hold on. I got one more for you. We can't run like that. Last one. Kirk Cousins made news today. He'll be on the Atlanta Falcon next season. Who is the Falcons' all-time leading rusher with 6,631 yards?

Ooh, you ain't going to get this one. Ain't no way in hell you're going to get this one. Why are you looking to your left? Don't look to your left. I mean, you probably got Some type of Alexa gadget That can hear my questions You know what I'm just looking

I ain't got time Look I know all the running backs I remember they had John Settle They had William Andrews I'm gonna go sit with Riggs You know what

You know what I'm quitting the show man Hell no Hey Hey Boy you cheating boy Hey huh Boy you over there cheating man Go ahead show, man. Hell no. Hey, hey, boy, you cheating, boy. Hey, huh? Boy, you over there cheating, man.

Go ahead now. Hey, you got, hey, you got something over there. When I ask the question, the answer pop up on the little gadget,

the little device you got. I know, as soon as I said it, you look to your left and then you put your head back up and then you knew the answer. I got to think. First of all, you wanted me to say, you wanted me to say Jamal Anderson.

That's who you really wanted me to say. No, no, because I said the most rushing yards. Jamal Anderson done that. Even I know he wasn't there long enough to have the most rushing yards in Falcons history. But you do realize I'm from Georgia, right? In the Falcons. You know when you're in a local area,

those games are always going to come on. See, like when you were in Miami, you always saw Miami. No matter who, Miami good, bad, or indifferent, you saw the Dolphins. Yeah, yeah. That's how it was.

That's how it was. We saw Atlanta, sorry to tell you. I ain't buying that, man. Listen, I ain't buying that. Hell, hell no. Listen, some of them answers, and I know the chat, the chat, I know y'all watching the chat, y'all could agree with me, like, something ain't right now. Something ain't

right about this. It's one thing to be knowledgeable of the game, but knowing some of this stuff back from the 70s and some of these just random questions that I ain't heard, like two of these I ain't never heard before, but you knew the answer right off real. Yeah.

Nah, I could. Nah, I could. Chat, what y'all think, chat? Chat, something ain't right. Something ain't right. Damn, that was a good one. That was a good one. You got one little question.

You got last question, Ocho. You got one more? No, that was it. That was it. Okay, check this out, Ocho. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's one more.

It's one more. It's one more. True or false? Has a tight end... Wait. True or false? A tight end has never won Super Bowl MVP. Is that true or false? No tight end has never won Super Bowl MVP. Is that true or false?

No, he never won. You sure? I'm 100%. Wait a minute. Remember the ice bowl? I don't care. You sure? Mm-hmm.

So is that your final answer? Final answer. True. False. A tight end has never won the Super Bowl MVP. So is that Is that your final answer Final answer True False A tight end has never won The Super Bowl MVP True You mean true A tight end has never been

Super Bowl MVP However you want to frame it Right True He's never won Okay okay okay You right you right Yeah okay

Like listen I mean man Something ain't right over there man I don't know framing. Right. True. Okay, okay, okay. You're right. Yeah, okay. Like, listen. Man, I'm gonna... Something ain't right over there, man. I don't know what it is, man. Somebody help you cheat. Something going on. It's something. Let me sit up in my chair a little bit. But the Super Bowl has had a losing

player win the MVP. Who cut a fool like that and they still gave it to him? Chuck Hawley. The Cowboys lost on the last second field goal to the Colts. Right.

But Chuck Hawley wasn't. He was balling, huh? Yeah. Man, look at that. That was like in the mid-70s, early 70s, like 74. I think. I don't remember nothing

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