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Episode Date: April 10, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the New York Knicks beating the Boston Celtics and are now 2 games back of Boston for the 2 seed in the East, Kevin Durant scores 29 as the Rockets beat the 76ers, and Ohio State DT Kayden McDonald joins to talk about the upcoming NFL draft and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 05:25 - Knicks beat Celtics23:15 - Rockets beat Sixers31:25 - Kayden McDonald joins54:45 - Joel Embiid’s many injuries59:05 - Anthony Davis gave his MVP rankings Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and thank you for joining us again for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite aunt. And there he is, the tongueful master himself, Liberty City Legend, bingo ring of fame, honoree, a pro bowler, and an all pro.

He's Chad, Ocho Cinco Johnson, and the third member of the big three. Y'all know him, a seven-time NBA All-Star from the Atlanta Hawks, a University of Arkansas alum and Little Rock, Arkansas native. He claimed he won a state championship in basketball, but there is no verifiable proof of that.

Y'all know him. ISO, Joe, John. I ain't seen no articles. That's how we started the show off? Yeah, I just said. Hey, uh, hey, Joe feeling good. Now, he got his arms out.

You saw that? You see that too? You see the door? He got a long-huh. Hold on. You know, now, I ain't going to tell no lie to you because it sound flat to you. Listen. You are.

What? I don't care who's telling, no, Joe. Why? I don't care who tell it. How I'm about that, though? I, I, I, see it, Joe. Ocho made me get proved. I had to go get proved from the Georgia Basketball Association to show this man I scored 52 points in the game.

Okay. You ain't know that, did you, Joe. No, you scored 52 in the game in the high school? Rob figured you Yeah You're going to listen around with you Hey Joe Joe it wasn't no

competition out there Joe Hey hey Hey my people chat Whoever in the chat From Arkansas From Little Rock Y'all know

I need y'all to get in the chat man And vouch for you I don't know what wrong With these boys man Wait hold on vouch Vouch we need to see

A article We need to see proof I mean Just word of what What they're going to do it Joe Y'all need to see proof Hold on

Hold on Hold on Hold on Hey Hey don't go Don't go pull out your kid trophies either. What's up, baby? How was your day?

So far, so good, man. Good. Had it great taping down here while I'm in Miami. You know, I'm in Miami, but it's been raining. What's that thing? You hear it and ain't tell me? You don't see this? Yeah, we, no, we can't see that.

You ain't got no Zoom on your camera, but we're going to take your word for it. Hold on, time out, time out, time out, time out. Hey, Joe. Man, this, man, aunt down here in Miami, it ain't even tell me. Oh, Joe, man, you get, Boy, I don't take two episodes of Club Shaysay.

And I'm doing night camp. Hold on. Hey, hey, hey, check me out. Hey, let's go get, let's go with lunch tomorrow. I'm not part of here tomorrow. No, I got to. Hey, change your flight. No, I got to be, bro, I got three episodes in Atlanta.

Hold on. So you mean to tell me you came to Miami and you, and you focus on work instead of seeing your car? Yeah, man, you got a bad rap. Oh, Joe. Oh, damn. Hey, Joe. Let's get through this intro.

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Try it for yourself, and you'll see it is the best tasting, smoothest cognac on the market. Please, please drink responsibly and stay safe. The Knicks, stay alive in the race for the number two seed in the east by beating the Celtics 112 to 106. Jason Taney's return to Madison Square Garden, where last year, during the playoffs, he tore as Achilles. Josh Hart scored 15 of his 26 points in the fourth quarter,

hit two dagger three point shots to give Boston a six point win. Jalen Brunson, 25 points, 10 assists. J.T. Jason Tatum, finished with 24 points, 13 rebounds and 8 assists. The Knicks pulled within two games of the Celtics with two games to play for both teams. The Knicks on the tiebreaker because they beat the Celtics head to head three to one. And it'll be the number two scenes with two wins and two Boston losses. So Boston wins one game. They host New Orleans on Friday and Orlando on Sunday.

So if they win one of these final two games, they are the number two seed. The Knicks, I believe, will be the number three seed if they went out. The Knicks host Toronto on Friday and close out against Charlotte on Sunday. Joe, watching this game, look, the Knicks were ahead comfortably. They were ahead by 12 points at one point time, and the next thing you know, Boston ended up having a six-point lead. Sharmine got hot from three.

J.T. hit a couple of threes. Pritchett hit a couple of three. couple threes. But Joe, what did you like about what you saw from the Knicks? Having the lead, giving up the lead, and then finding a way to win this ball game. Well, they knew that, you know, with Boston being without J.B., Jalen Brown, okay, Ocho, you got to take advantage of that, bro. Now, I know, I know you ain't, you ain't looking at the scowron report and saying Schuytenheimer going to go seven for eight from the field, six for seven, three. You know what I mean? But boy, hey, he called five. I like, I like how Tatum played. Obviously, you know,

he was ultra-aggressive. You look at Payton Pritchard, and them guys coming off the bench, man, they're going to be, ooh, Boston's going to be something else in the postseason, man. When they fully healthy, they can beat anybody in the East. Matter of fact,

they might, they can potentially come out of the East. You know, I'm talking about a team that's tested. Tatum getting more comfortable, Ben there, done that. Yeah, Tatum getting more comfortable, you know, and his ability to get back to where he was, playing championship caliber basketball,

of basketball. Man, it was fun to watch. But New York, New York, man, they made some runs. I thought Brunson played great. Towns picked it up. If it wasn't for Josh Hart, they wouldn't have won their game tonight. He hit two big three.

Look, if that means, when you see what they did, they got the ball out of Jalen Brunson hand. If somebody else beat me a guy, I can have a little bit. I'm a little bit. Yeah. I just know, I just know Jailen Brunson ain't going to hit no shots. Hey, hey, if Josh Hart hits those, and he hits two, I mean, he stepped up.

Now, the first one he hit, the clock was kind of running back down. But that last one that he hit, he shot down with confidence. He said, come here, boozy, bitch, I got you last time. I'm going to get you here. And he held it up there. Hey. So I like what I saw also. Oh, Joe, what you think?

What you think about the next to the knee of the Celtics tonight? Listen, nobody really like my basketball take, but I'm going to give you one in. Yeah, and we like it. Hey, we like your basketball take. Hey, I, I appreciate it, Joe, but obviously, listen, the game. of basketball would I've come to learn in my short time of learning the game it's a game of runs uh uh joe and unc you know just like just like football it's all about momentum obviously in this game uh the celtics win on runs and obviously nicks went on runs and i think for the nick's sake they're

sick with jb not playing they really needed this game and josh har stepped up if i'm not mistaken the last game he played they only had but two maybe three points or something like that for the fact that he was able to step up and hit those big shots when they needed it most and i think the Celtic did a good job, getting the ball out of Bruns's hands. And like Unc said, if other players, the supporting cast for the Knicks is going to hit those shots, you're just going to have to be able to limit that. Hey, but when you look at it, Uncle Ocho, Boston didn't really shoot the ball great outside of, outside of, what's his name, Schuytenheimer?

Shireman coming out of the bench. You know, he was Ocho. He was unconscious. And Peyton Pritcher shot 50%, but Tatum 7 for 22. you look at the Knicks, man, they were, I mean, they shot the cup off the ball. Brunson shot it with 54%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, it ain't going to be many games that Josh Hart going to lead them Knicks

and scoring. Matter of fact, this, hell, this might be the only game. He didn't have done it all season if we just keep it 100. You know what I mean? So, yeah. Boston is in a good spot, man. They ain't a good spot. They ain't worried about nothing.

They sitting comfortable, comfortably. And when they get healthy going into the postseason, Hey, you don't want to see them bored, man. I think when you look at the bench points, they got 53 points from the bench post in bed. You look at Sharman, he had 20. He's 7 of 8 from the floor, 6 or 7 from 3. You look at Pritch, 10 of 20 from the floor,

3 or 8 from 3. Boosevic, 4 of 7 from the floor, 2 or 4 from 3. I think they're going to need a little bit more from Derek White. The last couple of games, Joe, he's kind of been hit or miss. And when he's in double figures, because you know what J.B. and J.T. You know what J.D. and J. on a family basis.

You know Pritchard what he's going to give you. He's averaging 16 points, basically 17 points a game, whether he's in the starting lineup or he's coming out the bench. So I'm penciling in him somewhere between 15 and 20 points. That's what I'm penciling on.

If he gives me more than that, I love it. I'm not counting on him giving me less than 15, but if he gives me more than 20, I'll graciously accept it. But somewhere in that 15 to 20 ballpark, that's normally what he does. Now, my big guns, I'm going to need those guys to go off on a consistent basis.

One or the other, I love to have both of them do with him. But Hauser didn't shoot the ball well tonight. Like you said, I'm not counting on shot, but he can let it go now. I don't know how many games you watched him, but that left-handed joker can let the ball fly. Man, he looked good tonight, Phil. I'm talking about it. I mean, he would come, hey, Joe, he would let that thing go and,

and turn around to the crowd. Yeah. Yeah, look, look, you know, playing in New York, that's like playing in L.A., Like, guys get up for those games. You know what I'm saying? Like, they look to bring, it brings the best out of you. And you can tell the night he got it going and he started talking to the crowd.

He really started feeling himself. And it was fun to watch him, you know, get on a heater like that. And I'm like, man, listen, if he can get him some consistency like this, I ain't saying he's going to go six for seven from the field and be that efficient. But, man, if you can be a reliable guy we can go to when J.B. or JT getting double team, you know, down the stretch or just throughout the game, I think he can definitely be beneficial for the Celtics.

Yeah, but that's the thing. Their bench is outstanding because normally you'll probably, I mean, Housel, somebody's going to be coming up to bench. You know Pritchard is coming off the bench. You know Sharmine's coming off the bench, and you know both of these guys can get on heaters. Pritchie can do it all. Pritcher's drive the ball.

He got a last minute. Hey, he'll put the shoulder into your bump. He can snatch. He can shoot the three ball. He's great in all aspects. Shireman is looking to shoot the three ball. Houser is looking to shoot the three balls. Although Houser, we saw Houser the other night,

he put the ball in the four and got to the middy. He was letting it go. But when those big two, I believe if everybody plays their best basketball in the Eastern Conference, if everybody plays to their capabilities, I don't believe a team can beat the Boston Celtics. That's just me, Joe. You might think Detroit can do it. You might think the Knicks can do it.

You think the Cavaliers. Now, I don't think there are no unbeatables in the East. Eastern Conference. I don't think Boston's unbeatable. I don't think Detroit's unbeatable. I don't think the Cavs are unbeatable. I don't think the Knicks are unbeatable. Okay. I just, I just wanted you to clarify that. You said nobody can beat the Boston Celtics win there on full tier. I think everybody plays their A game. Out of the East, you meant. Yes. I think if everybody plays their A game in the Eastern Conference, right. I think Boston is the best team in the Eastern Conference. That's just me, Joe.

What do you think? I totally agree with you now. If Tatum wasn't back, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say that. But since Tatum has came back, and obviously it was question marks because we didn't know how he was going to look coming back, you know, in such a short time and it's such a short stint. Go ahead, Ocho, what you got? Hold on. Hold on, Uncle Joe. You heard what you just said? What? Y'all said if Tadon didn't come back, y'all wouldn't still feel the same way about the Celtic.

No, I wouldn't. No, because everybody else got two guys that can go off. You still got Brunson and Kat can go off. You got Hardin and you got Donovan Mitchell can go off. You got Cade Cunningham and you got Duren can go off. I know those are guys that have been all-stars that have been all NBA selection players. With Jason Tatum back. Now you got J.B. and J.T.

Both guys have been Eastern Conference MVP. J.B. has been an MVP in the finals. And you have guys those role players. Now, I believe the Boston Celtics have the deepest bench. Oh, no, quite. When you look at what they have, they got Pritch, they got Sharmint and they got other guys. I think they have the best bench. And those two proven guys, J.B. and J.T. are the most proven come playoff time based on what they've done getting to an NBA finals and winning an NBA finals.

Okay, but I have a question, though, Uncle Joe. Listen, before J.T. came back, let's look at what the self-experor were with just Jalen Brown at the helm, holding the ship, steering the ship, keeping that ship afloat. Before Jason Tatum came back, the guy themselves was still second in the 80s. Yeah, yeah. So you still, you still don't have confidence in them, still being able to do, come out to heat. if they were already second and Jason Tatum wasn't great? Yeah, I saw him last year. There was number one seed and got what happened with J.B. and J.T. and what happened?

They were Luther and people look at it like what J.T. went down. They was getting smoked before he got wet down. The Knicks was kicking their ass. And when you look at it, Ocho, if you just got J.B. out there by himself with no Tatum, man, you can kind of, you can kind of, yeah, you can load up and control the game. Double him on picking rolls, doubling when he crossed half court and make this. other guys beat you. Now when you got two guys who could go for 40, 50 points on any given night, now you got your hands for. You know what I mean? He got plenty of help. And you know,

J.B. a two-way player, bro, so he's going to expand a lot of energy on both hands on the court. Energy on both ends, yeah. He ain't going to, his game ain't just predicated off making shots. You know what I'm saying? He's going to be disruptive defensively. He's going to be in a passing lane. He's going to get steals. He's going to pick you up full court. But he can only do all of that if he has another counterpart who he know he can he can rely on which is jason taylor somebody that can help here the load on off there you go because you got to realize if they're playing if they're playing cleveland he's going to have to take james hard and the donald or mitchell jay white's going to take the other but he's got to take one of those guys he's probably

going to have to do they put the question is do they put him on k or do they put j b on k i think i mean they're white So he's going to have to do something with one of those. And so when you deal with, and Brunson, you'd probably put Derek White on Brunson to try to tire him down. But you'll probably have to miss, you know, run, you know, do some different things. Because I think the thing, once you get to this level, those guys, you can't give a guy a steady diet of anything. It's like medicine. If you continuously take a dose of medicine, you'll build up a resistance to it.

And you've got to take strong and stronger doses of it. If you throw these great players, the continuous same look and have a guard, guy, guard them the same way, these guys too good. That's just like a guy would laugh up, like we play the Raiders or Kansas City. You already know what they're going to do. What they're going to do, Ocho?

Right here in your face, man, man. They ain't going to the hotel. Like, bro, they tell them as the huddle. They're telling you the defense. They're like, no, I'm going to you. I got you and he got him. They claim you man football, Joe. You got that man.

Hey, look, but you know, that's how J.B. If they play against Cleveland, he's going to guard James Harden. He's going to pick him up full court, kind of like he did. Luca in the finals that year and kind of wear him down. Yes. You know what I mean?

J.B. understands, he understands his role to the tee, bro. He knows offensively, you know, he's going to get anywhere from 22, 35 a night. That's just, I know it's a big gap, but by anywhere from 22 to 35 a night. But he's also going to make it hell on one of your toughest offensive players, you know, meaning picking him up full court the whole game. And then by the fourth quarter, hopefully he didn't die down a little bit. You don't warm him out. So Boston got a good strategy, bro.

I like Boston with Tatum back looking the way he's looking. Sh, you and you. But that's the luxury of having, Joe, two guys. Because if you go back and look at the Bulls, what did they have? They had a six-foot-seven long-armed defender that could guard anybody from Magic to Isaiah to Gary Payton to Kevin Johnson. It did not matter. And so Clyde Drexler.

So Jordan could take somewhat about. a break on defense. Kobe, who did he have? He had B. Shaw. He had Rick Fox. He had meta. LeBron. He had Shane Badiere, or he had

Richard Jefferson, or he had JR. So when you have someone that's like, okay, they got defenders over there. Now, there have been times that, look, he just had to deal with AD. He had to deal. At some point in time in the fourth quarter, he got to deal with KD.

Or some point in time in the fourth quarter, he got to deal with Kauai. That's just the way it is. When the rubber needs to meet the road, hey, I appreciate what y'all been doing. Thank you very much. But I'm going to get it from here. Yeah. And I think that's the luxury that the Celtics have,

that very few teams have. I mean, they got guys that can score, but you got a Derek White and you got a J-B that has no problem taking the tough defensive assignment because they understand. Let me do all we can. And they'll trade off. Hey, you'll see Derek White try to,

deal with hard. You'll see J.B. try to slow down Mitch and vice versa to keep them giving them different looks. Hey, guess what? We'll travel, we'll blitz it. We want to get the ball out. Hey, we're going to make some, make it swing it. But it's going to be a great, it's going to be a great

matchup to see what, I'll see how this thing shakes out when it's all saying done. Because we kind of know like the top four, we'll see what Orlando can do. We'll see what Toronto can do. And see how this thing plays that to the bottom. I think this year, I would have a little bit more confidence,

had Van Carroll played a little bit better, and they had Wagner and throughout the entirety of the season. But they haven't, they kind of been up and down all year long. Toronto's kind of been the same. Toronto's gone on a stretch where they've won six, seven games in a row, and then all of a sudden they fall by the wayside. But they still got B.I. They got Scarty Barnes.

They got guys that can, you know, that can do a little thing, something. But I still say, I still say if everybody plays their A game, I think Boston is the best. Yeah, you're right. I mean, even if you look back on those Bulls teams, especially in 91, is that when they played the Lakers Magic now in the finals? Yes.

You look, if you go back, Ocho, and you watch the Bulls in 91 when they played the Lakers in the finals, watch how Jordan and Scotty Pippen guarded Magic Johnson, bro. They picked him up full court and they made, they wore him down, bro. And that's the same thing that, yeah, that's the same thing that Boster has right now. now with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. You know what I'm saying? They understand they roll. They understand they both pack a punch offensively,

but defensively is where they got a hang they had and were ultimately, you know, they're going to be able to win ballgames because if I'm scoring 30 and I'm giving up 30, hell, that's a watch. You know what I mean? That ain't what they want. Yeah, that ain't what they want. Well, if you remember, Joe, in game one,

Jordan tried to go out guard magic. They won, they won game one. the Lakers one game one. Yeah. Then Phil put, magic put, on Pippin on magic. And Pippin picked him on full court.

Because now we got somebody that's six foot seven. That's long limb. Yeah. See, if athletic is Jordan Nils, you got to realize magic still six nine. And magic had to, at that point in time, magic had developed that baby's guy hook.

So now he gets you down on the block. Yeah. You had his mercy. He goes to him. He goes to him. He goes to him. He goes. And they still had big game James Worthy.

So it was, it was, and they're like, you know what, hey, Scottie. Because Scott didn't realize that he wasn't going to have to have the offensive load. You're asking George to exert a lot to take their best player on one end while still giving you the same production on the other end. Yeah. That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a awful. It is.

It is. Those guys were determined back then, man, they was going to make it happen. They was going to do whatever they had to. For sure. And then, and then, you know, you had Ron, no, Ron was in the second one. but you have no grant. So you have another defender. And so that's what normally the really good teams do.

They have multiple defenders. That's what makes OKC so good. They've got three, four, five wing defenders that they can throw at you. They just keep running them. They just keep running them at you. Hey, eventually you're going to wear it out. Ain't no way you're going to be the ballroom. No son.

You're right. OK, see, that's definitely how they play. That's how they played over the past. I would probably say three years, Arcan Ocho, they've been consistent with that. Although those guys can score the ball, they know in order for them to win, man, they got to sit in their chair and guard their ball, you know, and they do it with the best of them. I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind, and now got my own show. To if you're tired of lazy takes, if you want honest conversations,

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I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartre. Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think,

on and off the floor. Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave? And then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble. for this answer, but I think it's like

definitely happening in the WBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes too. They pulled me to their side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man, you can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories. And we're like, mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball?

Check out Game Recognized game with Stuy and Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kevin Durant scored 29 points as the Rockets beat the 76ers 113 to 102 for the eight straight win. Philly was missing Joel Embed, after he had an appendectomy.

The 76ers, who was fighting for a playoff spot would be without Embedde indefinitely. He had surgery in Houston on Thursday after being stricken with appendicitis overnight. The sixers have lost three straight and dropped into a tie with Charlotte for the eighth seed in the east.

in the east. Joel and Bede is just to say, you know what? He might as well just call him Slep Rock. I don't know if y'all remember the cartoon Slep Rock with every time you come around, bad stuff just start happening. Yeah.

Hey, A, Aondectomy. That's not, you're not out that long with that, though, huh? Yeah, you're up there for a minute. Boy, they got to go inside and get them things up out. Damn. That's your appendix. Yeah. They open you up, Mocho.

Yeah, I know they open you up, but I'm just saying the time that he has to miss. Obviously, he'll be, he'll be back. It's not, I mean, not too long. Probably a week. Okay, that's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad.

Long as it's not a significant amount of time, especially with him, you know, getting ready for the playoffs. I think the thing, oh, Joe, is that, and Joe, is that seem like every time this time of year is something. Yeah. You remember last year it was his knee and it's been his knee and it's been his back and it's been his ankle. And like I said, I've never seen anybody with,

The only people that I've seen with more stomach issues than Joel and Beat is babies. I ain't never seen nobody have issues like him. It's something. I don't know what's going on. And I, you know, I'm saying that tongue and cheek, but he's had issues with his stomach before. And then decided there's nothing you can do.

I heard it's very painful from people that have had it. It's like, oh, boy, they got you, hey, if they have you doubled up. And clearly, you do emergency surgery. But it's just like, it's one thing after nothing. I don't know. I'm trying to think that time, maybe once in his career

that he's entered the postseason and he's been healthy. In his career and he's been in the league 10 years. One time of all those years because we see what he, boy, when he's healthy in the regular season, that joke alone. He had to deal with. Wait.

That joke alone. Hold on, huh? Has there been a season? If he's been in the league 10 years, I'm not sure how many years he's been in the league, has he had a complete season where he's been able to play an 82 game season or is he held? He ain't going to ever play 80 games. He ain't going to ever play 80 years.

two games. Because of the size. There was a couple of seasons, Ocho, and Joe, when you remember that he was having MVP caliber year, he ended up winning one that he was playing probably 68, 70 games. Okay, okay, okay. But then come playoff time. Neat.

Because remember last year, he was like, what was it, last year? Or two years ago that he was like, barely that. That might have been, was that last year? Might have been last year. Might have been a two years ago that he was like, 30, it looked like he's about 40%.

But when he's healthy, and that's a big win, and that's probably why, you know, they haven't enjoyed the success that they wanted to have, even when Hardin was there because he couldn't stay healthy. And then when it had Ben Simmons, he had some issues, and then Ben had the issue with the Hawks, and they had the issues with the Hawks, and they ended up losing to the Hawks in seven games.

And I said that they'll never going to be the same. It's over for them. They've been to break that team up. I said, uh, Joel and I said, uh, Ben Simmons, gone. For Doc to say what he said, for Joel to say what he said. Right. I said it. Oh, man, you don't know what you're talking about.

I said, okay. And then Philly, Philly, you know, you know I internet there is Ocho and Joe. Man, they had a trash can going down to flood it and there was a trash can and people talking about this Ben Simmons. I said, oh, yeah, so it's definitely over now. There's a man. And you got to trust the baby. And you got to trust. Now, the process over the way.

Hey, you're talking about it. That process, you know what. Hey, listen, and this is what I'm talking about, this what I'm talking about, though, when Embed don't play, you look at maxing edgecombe numbers, they'd be totally different, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Because Embed is a ball stopper, Uncle Ocho, meaning there is not a lot of movement. Yeah, he's going to get you 25, 35 points a night, but the rest of these dudes around them,

they ain't going to really be doing a whole lot. You know what I mean? Because he's so stagnant, offensively. And there's no rhythm, there's no flow. So, you know, you got a rookie like Ashcombe who thrives in transition. You ain't going to get many transition buckets, bro. You know what I mean? Because you're saying MB taking up space?

I'm saying because he's so ball dominant when the ball gets in his hands, it stops. It don't move. You know, he ain't moving around, setting too many picks and rolling. You know what I mean? It's just not a lot of flow and rhythm in the game. So it hurts everybody else around him. Yeah, he can score in a half-corset. You know, that's what he's too.

But, you know, the glaring thing is he doesn't give you, he doesn't give you much defensively. You know what I mean? He's spending all, he expanding all this energy on the offensive end, you know, letting you know that. Look, I can still get 30 at night, you know, and we know that. But defensively, you don't see a whole lot of shot blocking from them. You don't see a whole lot of great defense.

And that's kind of got Philly behind the A ball. So I don't expect much from Philly. I'm going to be honest with y'all. They're going to be a first round. I mean. And what? You know what I got a question? Because they're right now they're into playing.

Go ahead, Ocho. Now I'm going to say, why are we on the topic of NB, right? Right. Yeah, he won MVP. Who was the other person that went right behind?

Who was run up? If I'm not saying. If Yokelke, if Yonk was run up, right? And think about Joe, think about all the things you just said about everything becoming stagnant offensively when Embed is playing, right?

So when you look at when you look at Joker, when he plays, what's the difference in what Joker does? And what M. does being that he's a defensive liability as well because still put up 30 you don't see them you see them assist number yokech got okay he's obviously he's not the passer he's not the passer that uh jokk it is yokech is if if he asks me he's a past first center who can score he's a looking score who can like you know okay boom he ain't open on the cut y'all y'all playing me one-on-one

okay cool i'm just going to go for 50 tonight don't even worry about you know what i mean I think, I think Yokish IQ for the game, Ocho, is just a little bit. Much better. Hey, hold on. Hey, Yokish IQ for the game is basically like LeBron. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Yeah.

Because when you come with the double team, he knows where you come. Depending on who comes, he knows where he's supposed to be. Yeah. So his man is open. That's why he throws so many passes behind his head because he knows the man came from the weak side. Right. And so he knows that whoever is in the dunker spot with his, with Kristen,

Brown or whether it's Gordon or whether it's Strother or whether it's a Peyton Watson, he knows they're there. So I can go behind my back because I know somebody's feeling from the dog. And that's just, he gets that ball at the nail. He knows you can't come double him. If you do come double him, you double somebody in the middle of the court? Are you crazy? Yeah.

No, you can't do that. And giving both points. And that's just, that's just having a great feel for the game, fellas. You know, knowing, knowing exactly where your guys are supposed to be at at all, all the time. That's what a point guard does. Your center never really who never really operates like that. This is why Yoko is just so

great. It ain't, it ain't, you know, he's going to put up a triple double. It's because he going to, you know, he's going to do what he can. I mean, he's going to score the ball if he had to score it that night. If he need to get 20 assists, hell, he going to do that. If he need to get 20 rebounds, he's going to do that. He going to do whatever it takes for them to win.

And that's why they've been successful. And that's what makes him so unique. He's about to lead the league in rebounds. and assist, and you might not ever see it again. Because normally when guys lead, most of the time when guys obviously lead the league and assist, it's a guard. To ask a guard to lead the league and rebounding. So think about it, now you've got a center

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I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars, and now I guess also as the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the math. of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.

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What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think, on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like your star players like, well, I want to leave? And then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking.

I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the WBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to their side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories. They'll be like, Mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball?

Check out Game Recognized game with Stuyon Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we got a very special guest joining us. He's a 6'2, 326-pound, projected first round pick, a unanimous All-American, a Big Ten dispenses lineman of the year, Outland Trophy finalists, a first team, All-Big Ten, two-time academic All-Big Ten. Here he is, Caden MacDonald.

Cade, what's going on? Oh, man. What do you do? What's happening there? Man, thank for Jordanica, bro. KM. KM was good. Man, Ocho, man, the goat.

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe from Arkansas, man. I'm from Arkansas, too, man. Yeah, what's happening? Hey. Didn't you grow up here in Atlanta, though? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was from Texas, Canada.

I was born in Texas, Canada. Okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wait, boy, I knew something about you. Boy, you good people as you man. Oh, yeah. I got one question. Joe, man, why I couldn't get an NBA championship, man?

What you mean? For the Hawks, man. I grew up a Hawks, man. Why I couldn't get one? Man, come on. Come on. Don't act like that, now. Don't act like that.

Hey, I'm going to make sure they get one here soon, though. Don't even worry about that. Yeah. What high school did you go to? I went to North Gunnet, you know, Suwanee. You know, we, Gwinnett County, Gwinnett County got the best football, so all the dogs come out there. Okay.

Yeah. They have. Gwinnett County has really, they've really built up all those schools out there because they've really gotten, and now you got Buford out there, you got, you know,

all those big time schools out there. Wait, wait. Because it used to be, it used to be South. It used to be the Val Dawson, the Telf counties, the Warner Robbins. All those schools were big.

Now y'all just done. Lions County. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Caterner says some dogs come out of there. I need to hear names

of some of the dogs that came out of that school. All this. We got, uh, see, we're going to start. We're going to go old school. We're going to go C.J. O'Zuma.

Okay. New school. We had Josh Downs, Barry Carter. Okay. Big bro, Jada McDonald's, man, All-American. That's my big, bro. Wait, all them from L.L.A.? Well, the whole Gwinnett County, we got Caleb Downs, Travis Hunter, all them boys.

Ooh. Yeah. Okay. I ain't know that. I ain't know that. I like that. I like that. you know all right what what what what click for you this year you know you're all

american uh obviously three six two three hundred and twenty six pounds you can do a lot get you twitchy uh can collapse the pocket can rush the quarterback can stop to run what click for you this year what what wasn't about this year do you say you know what i got all this you put it together so make a long story short you put it together what and i'll just say man opportunity um uh no i got got a chance to make something happen. I had like 13 games, you know, like every play I treated like opportunity.

You know, one day I want to be on that cover. So it's just like, it's that mentality, you know. I'm on a field, you know, I got the black face going. You know, I'm on it. Yeah, yeah, I'm all the way in it. Locked in. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Hey, so far, right, obviously having a great season this year with Ohio State. The process, obviously, your childhood dream is one to make it to the NFL. How has the process been? so far. Has it been everything you dreamed of to date that you thought it would be before you even made it? But I'll just say, yeah, for sure, man. You know, when you a kid, especially coming from Arkansas, ain't nothing but one gas station, you don't know, you know, growing up, man, just, no, it's a dream come true. You know, we ain't, I ain't ever dream about this when I was a kid, you know, he was just living. No, okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but, you know, growing up, man,

it was just, you know, we played ball. No, I've been playing since I was a little. four so man this has been my life no hey hey tell me some uh what's your plans for the draft man you plan on going down to pittsburg for the draft like man i'm gonna have that big cubing on i got my little one on right now but school double set popping it yeah put that thing on hey whole family gonna be that what kind of watch you're gonna have on what kind of watch you're gonna be wearing two-tone AP oh oh oh man oh man hey oh boy got money two-tone yeah yeah he said he got the big cubo now the big cubana he said yeah they're pretty I like it last yeah I got I got one more question I got one more question obviously that there's certain players that you watch at the next

level I'm sure there's some players that you aspire to be like or that you look up to who do you can who do you can pay your playing style to and who are players in NFL right now that you look up to and say, you know what, I want to make my mark or leave my mark like they did? I'm like, so I'll be like, you feel me, I like physical defensive tackles, man. Yes, sir. Like me, I don't really, I look at other NFL players, but no, my game is special. Like, you see me on the field making these plays. You know, I had 65 tackles from the head-up nose position.

Ain't nobody doing that. I'm trying to make my home mark, you feel me? Yeah. But I'll say, like, man, Aaron Donald, Cam Hayward, you know, he came out of Pitchie Ridge. That's who I was going to say. I'm going to say probably Cam Hayward because he's a guy that plays like, he can play the, he can play the tilt, he can play the under. Most of the time he lines up, he can be the three. I mean, head up the nose.

He can be the three. He can be the five. He can be the defensive end. He's multiple, but he's. Hey, I got a question for you. Hey, what's your superstition on, like, the game day? Like, what's one thing you got to do on the game day that you ain't chained? Oh, man, I was very superstitious.

Once I started this, even when I went to Baltimore, the trainers, I told the trainers, obviously I have my pad, you know, double-sided tape on my pad. That's in, they're in my locker. I need three packs of big red. I need probably like six ad. Oh, my God. First up, ain't you? I need three.

I need three blueberry cake donuts. Yeah. I need long, I need long linemen socks that I'm going to get, take out my locker and I'm going to go give them back to the equipment guy and get running back socks. I get tape. I get a regular routine tape job to go out there.

And then I come back in and I get retake again, but I get it taped to my skin. Yeah. I do the same thing. You know, I go stand on the road, Kate, I would go stand. I would press the elevator and I would go stand in front of the elevator door that I thought was going to open. And I had to do that until I got it right.

So if it's three, four elevators, I'm going to press it and I'm going to go stand in front of one that I think is going to open. And was that door open that I'm standing in front of? Oh, they're in trouble. That team that we played in trouble. I already know what you was on. You gave them that work. Hey, Kay, you had superstitions. You had a routine that you followed?

Yeah, I don't know. I just, no, my superstition, like, and I was big in my faith. So, like, every, before every game, you know, I'll just open up the Bible. I'll pray first. And, like, whatever scripture comes up, and I'll just read it. And, like, it's like, it's a different meaning. Like, to me, when I read, you know, I read in, like, just words and, like, just words, like, strength, you know. God got you, things like that.

Yeah. Like, it always comes for tuition, like, in real life. And, like, I just forever been doing that, you know. Yeah, it's so funny. Why Ohio State? That's what, why Ohio's, what's over? You got Georgia, you got Babi, you got all those schools and you go, you leave Georgia. I mean, you leave eight to eight and go way to Ohio.

Man, you know, wait, this draft, man. We got five guys in the first round, man. Hold on, I got to give a special shout out to all the five, man. We got Caleb, man. If you went here, Cardinal, Arvell, Sonny. Those boys, man. Those boys, some dogs. But we develop, man.

It's a real development. Yeah. You know, it prepare you. You, every day, you train like a pro. No, nutrition. You got to be like a pro. You got to be accountable every day on and off the field. I like that.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You said, you said one word. You said, I heard a word that I hear all the time. You said nutrition. Now, when it comes to nutrition, what would your diet look like? What would you eat? What are they telling you to eat? Like I said, man, I'm big in that seafood, man.

I'm a seafood secret. You know, hey, shout out of a lot of team, man. Seafood, man. I'm a big salmon guy. I love me see salmon. Okay. Especially, I'm superstitious. Now I eat the same thing the whole week, man.

On the Tuesday, I go salmon. Wednesday, Chipotle. Thursday, we got to go. Yeah. We got to go big, man. Shout out McDonald's. Oh, we got to go big, man. That's what I'm talking about.

You know what? See, just because of that, I'm telling you right now, I'm telling you right now, boy, you're going to be great. You're going to be great for the simple fact. Hey, listen, you're not, you eating healthy, but obviously you're going you're going other places too like you know McDonald's was me

I wasn't superstitious but I had McDonald's every game I still eat today and I think that's the reason for my success you don't get hurt often you know why you don't get hurt often it ain't the salmon it's not your nutritionist it's the fact that you eat Big Macs that's what it is

I know what I talk about hey Matt hey Matt hey Matt listen how much your way bro three what? Like 325 right now solid Oh, that's light. That's light for him.

But when I watch you on the field, though, you're so nimble, so you carry their weight so well. How's your training regimen? Like, how are you getting nimble? Like, is football the only sport you ever played? Bro, man, you got to really look me up. You got to do your research, man. I've been hooping since I was five, man. Yeah.

I really wanted to become a hoop. I really wanted to become like you, man. I used to go to the game. I see Joe Johnson. You feel me? Mike, Bibby, Jamal Crawford. Yeah. Man.

All that, but no, I was a multi-sport athlete. You know, in high school, I played running back. I had like 500 yards, 12 touchdown. Damn. And I was a dollar. Damn. Okay. Oh, you was told that big, huh?

Yeah, for sure. But see, you see what happened, Kay? When you start eating a Big Macs, you grew out of running back position. See, if you're the game of the big backs that kept eating salmon, you'd have been a running back. You'd have been Jamir Gibbs. But you'd have been dang hitting you. Hey, what would be my nickname if I was a running back? They'll call you Big Mac.

Big Mac. Yeah. You've been running over people. Yeah. Your name would be Big Mac. What? You'd have been running. Hey, so in what position you're playing basketball?

Were you the point? You're the center? Hey, you're the two. I did it. Oh, man. I'm like point guard, man. I got to facilitate the offense, man. They run through me.

Oh, you got to run through me. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like you. Could you dunk? No.

I was a floater. I'm floaters. There you go. Oh, you, oh, you're Jay and go. Oh, you're dead. I like it. I like it. So, I mean, obviously, as Ocho asked you to say, you know, this was a lifelong dream.

You grew up, you know, play it in Texarkana and later moving to Atlanta and then playing the game of football. You played it, JV, Pop Warner, JV, high school football, college, football. Now, everything that you had is right there. We're basically we're two weeks away. We're two weeks away from the draft. Two weeks and everything that you had hoped for and you dreamed about, you prayed about, you said your man of faith, and it's about to happen. Have you thought about in that

moment? Are you going to get emotional? Are you going to think, you know, like, damn, mom, we did it. Bro, so we hear that. Man, I think about that every day. It's getting closer. We two weeks away. I know, just like the whole life, my whole life, man, I just, I felt like the underdog, you know, I finally get to celebrate with the people that's the closest to me. You know, mama, no, mama, you know, I got big bro, sister, auntie, all the fam from Arkansas coming. Yeah.

You know, so, yeah, my best friends from Georgia, you know, it's going to be a good night. And just all the work I put in, you know, it's a lot of sacrifices you got to make. I know as a kid, like back at home that's looking up to me, so, you know, I got to make that happen so they can do the same thing I'm doing. And that's my motivation. That's what so. Hey, hey, Kay, May, one thing I'm going to tell you, bro, I know you probably working your butt out right now because, you know, you're about to, you know, approach your lifelong dream.

The one thing I'm going to tell you, bro, keep that dog mentality. Even when you get drafted, even when you get that, like, never let your foot up. You know what I mean? Keep working hard, bro. And I always remember, you know, never lose that discipline that you have now. You know, the workouts that you got to go through, how you eat. Man, when you get in the NFL, bro, don't let up, bro. Don't let up.

For sure. You see that hunger? Because a lot of times what happened is that they, okay, my lifelong dream would get to the NFL. Well, not because you, this is not the destination. This is the journey. your destination is once you're done with your career. So that same drive and determination that you got up every and trained for in high school and what you did in college.

Because the Scott report says you're a striker, which lets me know you're great with your hands and you're like, I'm physical. And the one thing I know about Matt Patricia, and he knows how to come up with the run game. You got to be great with your hand. Nah, son. Ah, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, so on out. Hey, you're trying to go somewhere.

You try to get up on the line back in the hole you right here. Shad Yeah, Coach Matt Patricia He put a lot on my back this year And there's one thing He always be telling me He'd be strong in the middle

You know, that's where it starts Yeah And that's where it's going to And I just took it personal Each game You know, now we're here Draft So man, it's a blessing

You know Yeah You're gonna be all right You know, I know I know you're gonna be right Because I ask you Who you can pay yourself to Who you is

The people that, you know You inspire to be like And you said Nobody do it like you you said nobody do it like you that let me know you're going in with the right mentality the right mindset and you can make your own name for yourself so

go in there cause some goddamn havoc talk a little shit too don't be scared to talk no shit talk a little shit too let them know you here you know I've arrived so man I wish you nothing but success young bull and maybe shoot you might end up in Cincinnati well it looks like the bears the Vikings buffalo Houston and Pittsburgh

have all been labeled possible where you get that from their preference are you just Where you get that from? My source. But don't worry about it. You say, do our homework, do our research? My source? My source?

You tell us to do our homework. We do our homework. Yeah, man. Oh, so you don't been to a few of these places. Yeah, I've been to a couple. I met with pretty much every team, you know. Yeah. Hey, you met with Cincinnati?

On Monday, I am. Yeah. Yeah, it's a beautiful place over there. I'm in Fatsboro right now. Yeah. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So let me ask you this. Okay, they come in and they say, you know what?

Hey, Matt, big Matt, what type of player we get? Hmm. Tell me what I'm a gym. I'm in charge of personnel and I'm doing all the hire and I'm doing all the draft. And I come in and sit down and I'll say, hey, Tim, what type of player we get? Brough, it's only like three words, man. they want impact. Yeah.

They want impact. That's all I, that's what I really say to the GMs. And they know for sure. Hey, cut the tape on. That's it. That's another three words. Cut the tape on. Tell me what you see.

Tell me what you see. When you see me, tell me what you see. You know, you don't have to say too much. You don't got to tell them a story. They already know who you is. They already did their background check on you. Right. So you can't lie to them.

And then you just tell them straight. That's how I be, you know. Yeah. They don't have done their homework. They know everything about you. They don't know what. They know your favorite food. They know where you like to hang out at.

They know where you like to shop at. They know your dessert. They know they already know. Oh, yeah. Oh, you got your Nazi. You got your nice little car. You got your little car. Hey, yeah.

What's your job right now? Joe, what you drive right now? I know you got some. Man, I ain't got, but I got a range rover, bro. Oh, that's smooth. What about you, huh? Man, you know, I'm old. I got a, I got a 2012 range rover and a 20 and a two.

I got a, I got a 2020, 720 BMW. I got an electric BMW and I got that ghost, hellcat. Oh, Joe. Whoa. And then, whoa. I'm a toy. Ojo, what you got, Ojo? So, cyber truck Tesla, McLaren 720P, Lamborghini.

Yeah, yeah. My smart car. And shoot, that's it. Hey, man, Andy owe me a limb, Andy owe me a Lem, Hounder, LM K. And he got all them cars. He won't pay no debt, K, man. No, hey, I just, I just bought my daughter.

I just bought my daughter a Tesla two days ago. So she's happy. She, she's hyped. I'm saying? He doing all this stuff. Hey, look, man, what you do? What you do? I mean, you have, you ever lit somebody some money. And every time you see him, he got on fresh money, he got a new chain. He got on a new, he got on new, he got on new, he got on new crime.

He got on some new kids. Bro, I'd be seeing, bro, that jump be crazy to me. Like, dang, you owe me that honey. Man, I'll just, I'll see you with some new pants. Like, come on now, look. Man, just give me my honey back, bro. You know what's going to come back through. Nah, but, hey, K Mac, K Mac, this is what you don't understand, right?

For unks sake, I owe him 11,000, right? But that's for emergency purposes only. So if you need it, just hit the glass and then boom. He's been hitting the glass. He's been hitting the glass. Yeah. Now, he's good. He good.

He got about 70. He can just name 17 cars. What do you need by 11,000 for? Hey, hey, Matt, he's buying Chrome Hearts. You know Chrome Hearts ain't cheap. He buying Chrome Hearts. He buy an LV. He got Burberry.

He got all that stuff. Hey, see? Hey, K. Mac, this is what he don't understand. I go to the boosters now in here in Miami. I don't pay full price for nothing. They said they come to the barbershop. They come to the car shop. They said everything hell out.

Well, boost my limb. Hey, hey, hey, KMack, look, on nightcap, bro, we be looking for hidden talents. And I heard, I heard that you're supposed to be five. You can make some five pancakes, boy. You put it down like that? I can put it down, man I got that flick of that wrist

man Hey, for real Hey, so you a chef too? Man, I do it all, man Whatever you need What you need me to cook for you man When I come see you man Oh, you on that grill?

Hold on, hey, Matt, you on the grill like that? What type of steak? How you want to cook? Man, stop playing Yeah, don't plan Hey, hey, you know how to cook The wagon steak? That's easy.

Easy. Yeah. You know. Hey, I'm not, I like, I ain't going to live. I like, I like, I like Maestroos, man. What's y'all stay at? Y'all don't do the Statehouse, y'all? What are you?

Oh, you have Maddochose. Butter cake. Every time. That buttercake like that, baby. So let me ask you this. You got a lady, man? I don't got no lady right now. I was going to say, if you have, because, okay, let's just say you, you meet this lady

and you are, you kicking it, and you want to bring her over, and you want to cook a meal for. What you cook it? What do you cook it? What's you dropping on the table? Man, first of all, like I said, I'm going to just go, we're going to go salmon. We're going to go salmon, salmon, green beans, and rice. We're going to have to keep it, you know, healthy.

You got to. You don't want to do too much. Hey, hey, hey, what you're doing for dessert, though? That's what about? That's what I. Well, y'all shout out, man. Ain't anybody even saying. Yeah, because we know what's up.

We know what's up. Hey, Matt, check me out, right? Listen, you know, I'm dying here in Miami, right? And, you know, I know a whole lot of people, right? So if you need, if you need looking for, you know, a wife, a girlfriend or something, I got some eligible people. Kay Matt, Kay Matt, that guy could really align. Tone of vision, baby, boy.

I was waiting on you to say that, Joe. We didn't say none of that, Ocho talking about. Look here. Hey, man, hey, man, we're going to live an American dream. You hear me? Right, right, right. They're here a ton of it. And they're what we got.

Everything over here, man, them just distractions, homie. Don't be anything. Hey, hey, hey, hey, KMack, I hear what he talking about? But listen, what's the American flag without the stars, huh? You hear me? What's the American flag without the stars? What's the American flag without the stripes? He's talking about the American Dream.

Ain't no American Dream without someone you here. Stay locked in, K, K, Matt. Trust me, bro. Trust me. And you know, when they did the original American flag, it only had 13 stars, they added some more. So you could add some girls. What, you get about three, four, five.

get into the league, you could ask some dogs. Hey, I'm listening to Joe right now, man. There you go, man. You are right. You're all right. You're not.

For sure. Yeah. I'm locked in. Hey, congratulations on all the success, man. You got a great personality. You're going to be very successful in this league because you have what it takes. You know what it takes.

You have that, that discipline, that physicality, that desire to be great. It's big, bro. We're going to be watching you at nightcap. Hey, when you get drafted, call us up back up. We want to talk to you. I got you. I got you.

Hey, hey, one more thing. One more thing. Whenever you come back to Atlanta, whenever you come to Atlanta, come home to your boy, we do some high yoga. I make sure I keep you right, keep your nimble. Make sure you feel me? All right, that's cool. That's cool.

I'm going to come to you. All right. That's cool. No. Hey, hey, Matt, Matt, me and Joe get at you get at your off line. We'll talk to you later. Yeah. I got you, man.

Hey, man. Hey, man, I got to get some rest, man. I got to get up early, man. Do you think. Hey, hell of that. Appreciate your stop in. All right. You know what I'm going to tap in.

All right. All right. All right. Twin. All right, twin. Hey, check this out, guys. Here is Joel Embeddeed's playoff injury history. A 2018, he had an orbital fracture and a concussion.

2019, he had an illness. knee tendinitis. 2020, COVID bubble. 2021, torn meniscus. 2022, orbital fracture,

torn thumb ligament. 2020, knee sprain. 2024, Bell palsy. 2026. Fendicitis one week before the playoffs start.

18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, another 25. So basically eight of the nine years,

he's had something going into the playoffs. Hey, who the hell is Bell Palsy? It's a, it's a, it's a debilitating thing. That calls sometimes you see it, they mildly crook. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. I think it's a neurological. Okay. Stink had it, Marks Lorenz. Yeah, I think it's, no, he has Gillian Burray. He had Gillian Buree. He didn't have Bell palsy. But sometimes you see guys in it, they, they mouth be crook.

It's almost like, it reminds people of a symptom like a stroke. You know, sometimes people have a stroke. and they have their speech or they have hands or something. It's kind of like that. Okay. But I don't think anybody's had what to look at Joe. That joke got buzzet look. Man, it's unfortunate for him, too, man, because, you know,

it seemed like all this really, really started happening after their MVP year, too. You know what I mean? After it's MVP year, it's like everything started going downhill for it. No, Joe, he was hurt before the MVP. Yeah, not. 2018, he had an orbital fracture and a concussion. 2019, he had an illness in knee tendon night. 2020 was the bubble.

2021, he had a torn meniscus. 2022, he had another orbital fracture and a torn thominy ligament. 2023, he had a knee sprain. 2024, he had Bell's palsy. 2026, he had appendicitis. So, I mean, if you think about it, Joe, think about coming out of college.

What was it? He'd have been the first pick in the draft. If it's back, if his injuries wasn't an owing. Yeah. So normally when you come, if you limp into a league, you limp out of. You limp into the season, you limp out of it.

Because you know, Joe, being injured during the season, it's hard to get healthy, man. It is, bro. Because the games come too fast, you know what I mean? Especially in basketball, football, you know, you make nurture your injuries a little better. But in basketball, hell, if I'm playing four games and five nights, hell, I'm probably going to have to sit out with one or two of them games. To get yourself back right. Damn.

That's crazy. Man, it's tough. I've dealt with injuries. I mean, I have, I mean, I played 14 years and, you know, had some success. But Joe, I miss, in Ocho, I missed 16, I missed 16 complete game. That's a season. Yeah. That's a season.

Damn. Man. That's unfortunate, man. That hurts, that hurts Philly a lot, bro. Because, you know, M.B will be great in the postseason in the playoffs because, you go. But without him, they definitely ain't got no chance. Joe, you said something very interesting.

You said like when Joel and Bid is out, you look at Maxie, Max and you look at Vee, yes, because he called the lane up. Maxie can take you off the dribble, but Joel and Bede is right there. Edgecombe is explosive, and Bid is right there. The difference is, if you notice, they rarely, if you look at where Yokic is post up at, He always post up easy that at the nail part of the top.

Because even if he ever gets down on the block, he's looking to go cross court. He's looking to pass first. You better not bring no double team money. He's looking to pass first. You're right. Absolutely. Anthony Davis gave his MVP rankings. He said, Victor Wimbunyama, Nicola Yolkich, Jalen Brown, Shea Gildjus.

In that order? In that order? Hold on. That's what that's the order at number four? At number four. Wait, who was it? This was aunt? Wimby is at one.

Yokic is at two. Jalen Brown is three. She is four. Luca is five. Whose list was this, Un? That's Anthony Davis. I think AD, he going off the fact that San Antonio has beat O KC, what, three times this year on?

Yeah. Because I can't see how he got Wimby in front of She. I don't know how you can have anybody in front of. to say outside of yoke's you might put yokech up there because of the gaudy numbers that he's putting up the numb yes outside of that yeah and he did a lot of this with no erin gourd and he had some of this without jama murray yeah and so that's why i would like i was like man maybe you we should have jaylin brown a little higher because he did the lion's year of his work without jt yeah yeah and and if you go back and look at okayc they were still winning even without shay it ain't like they

It ain't like they drop like 10 games without Jake. I think when you look at it, though, OKC has been the number one seed for the past three years, fellas. You know what I mean? So that's saying a lot. I know Shea has missed some time and they still, you know, have put up wins, but, man, they ain't going nowhere without Shay, bro. He's going to get them over the hump.

So I think I give a little edge to Shea because of the consistency that OKC has played with over. the years and obviously still being dominant, you know, having the best record this season. That means a lot. Winning means a lot. Yes. It should. That's the whole.

Hey, man, winning ain't everything. Well, why the hell they keep score? Why they keep results? If it ain't everything, Ocho, why they keep scoring in? You tell me something they don't keep score in. You give an earnest report. Even in business, don't you get an earnest report?

Yes, sir. So they keep the score. So that's why it's important. Everything is important. And I say the same thing on Jordan. They're talking about, man, race, race, race, everything's about race. We're telling them to take it off every application.

Hey. Well, I got everything I put out, what they ask me. They ask me by male and female. They ask me by race. My ethnicity, yeah? Yeah. So if it ain't important, take it off. I have a question.

I know you got a good rebuttal. What about the people that say money isn't everything? People, that's people that don't have it. It might not be, but everything you need requires money. Ooh, that's a good one. Where you living, what you're driving, what you eat, you get injured, medical. Yeah. Of course.

Money is for freedom. That's what money buys. Money buys your freedom. That's what it is. Yep. Allows you to take it. care of people that you love. Do things for them that if you didn't have it,

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