Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers beat Knicks in thriller, Rick Ross Joins nightcap, and Mark Cuban finally speaks on trade

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Lakers beating the Knicks, Mark Cuban finally breaks his silence on the Luka trade, and Rick Ross joins nightcap, and much more!05:35 - Show start05:55 - Lakers vs. Knicks23:00 - Rick Ross joins 51:30 - Lakers vs. Knicks cont. 1:00:30 - Mark Cuban on Luka trade(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They improved to 40-21. The arena was electric for a regular season game. Luka, sensational, 32 points, 12 assists, several rebounds. Go James finished it off with four consecutive free throws. LeBron James, 31, 12, and 8. Gabe Vincent off the bench, didn't miss from three-point. A.R. was 2-13

in his return, but he had one big three in overtime that put him up five, and they never trailed after that. They were tied in the ballgame, Ocho, but they never trailed. The L were tied in the ball game mojo but they never trail the lakers look really good when you get lebron james playing off the ball he can get he's gonna get some run outs he's gonna dive he's gonna slash to the basket he's gonna be in the dunker spots get some easy baskets luca controlling the game because he has someone that all the guys that he played with,

the one guy that reminds him of himself is Luka Doncic, a guy that can control the tempo, the pace of the game. I want it to be this. I'm going to play at this pace. I want it to be that. I'm going to play at that pace. They were sensational tonight. The arena was electric, and they get a hard-fought victory over a good team.

Not a great team, a good team in the Knicks. Jalen Brunson suffered an ankle injury. He went up, came down on Austin. Looked like he came down on Austin Reed's foot. You know how that is, Ocho. You come down. That hurt. That hurt. But watching the game, Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from the Lakers?

Listen, the Lakers looked very good. Luka and LeBron together is special. I didn't know it would look the way it did this early. Obviously, it was kind of shaky with Luka not having any type of rhythm. His legs run up underneath him. He was coming off an injury. But the way they look right now, I mean, listen, when you talk about LeBron being able to play another two, three,

maybe even four years, you know, with Lonnie being able to carry a load, it's a possibility. Listen, I'm not much of a Laker fan. I mean, as you are, I'm a fan of the game of basketball. Now that I'm continuing to learn the game, you know, as time goes on, I'm excited for the Lakers in general. Like, the Knicks didn't play bad, huh? No.

The Knicks didn't play bad at all. Obviously, the first, first, second quarter, the Lakers really didn't start to get it going until the third quarter and get in the sinking rhythm for themselves. But, man, I really enjoyed tonight's game. Yeah, I did too. I think the thing is, Ocho, when you get Luka playing, and, I mean, he's making some big shots.

I'm sure he's not as consistent as he's liked to be, but 32-12, 7-4 steals, 4 made threes. LeBron was 31-12, 8, 1 block, 11-23. The Lakers have won 8 games in a row. Hey, Charles, we're talking about the Lakers again. Of all the people that know, Charles knows what sports are about. Sports are about stories.

Now, you tell me what's the better story. Luka Doncic getting traded, arguably the biggest trade in NBA history during the season. Right. And LeBron James at age 40

playing this way, or OKC and the Cavs. It's about stories. What's the more compelling storyline? Right. Right. How many times you see the paper lead if the Lakers and Luka play, the Cavs and OKC play, what story?

And Luka and them do what they do. What do you think they're leading with? It's always been like this. The same reason they always led with Michael Jordan, no matter what anybody else did, that was the lead. Here's a more compelling story, Ocho. That's how sports go.

That's what, Ocho, you know what? This is why they have announcers. Because they're telling you a story. If not, you can just watch the game. Why do you need to hear? Because they're painting a picture for you. Oh, yeah. That's what they do.

Go ahead, Ojo. Now, I was going to tell you this. There are three teams, you know. In order to catch a beast, you got to have some honey. And the honey is the Lakers, the Cowboys, and the Yankees. And it will always be that way. Now, there are other themes. There are other stories.

But the stories will never be that of the Lakers, the Yankees, and the Cowboys for some reason. And how long, I just honestly, you would know better than I have, how long have they always been the go-to when it comes to stories? The Celtics, excuse me, the Yankees have been since the 20s. When they had Babe Ruth and, yeah, since the 20s.

They didn't realize. What do you think the pinstripe? Yankee pinstripe. Hold on. Put it in a suit. 1920s. 1920s. Yes, yes.

That's how long the Yankees have been in the lexicon. You look at the great players and and they win championships when you've got Babe Ruth, and you've got Lou Gehrig, and you've got Mantle, and you've got Barrett, and you've got DiMaggio. Yeah. Whitey Ford. Yeah, and then you come to the 70s, and you get Reggie Jackson, and you get Guidry, and you've got Thurman Munson, and you've got Mariano Rivera,

and you've got Derek Jeter, and you got Mariano Rivera and you got Derek Jeter and you got Jose Posada and then you get A-Rod. And now you got Aaron Judge. That's the way it is. And the Lakers, go back, look at the Lakers. They were in these battles in the 60s. First of all, it was the Minneapolis Lakers that went five straight with George Mikan, who was the first big man.

And then you get the battles with the Celtics and the Lakers in the 60s. And then you get the Celtics, excuse me, the Lakers in the 70s. Now, they only won one championship. They lost to the Knicks twice. They won, sandwiched in between. 71, they lost. 72, they won. 73, they lose again.

And then you get the 80s with the Showtime Lakers. And you got Kareem, and you got Magic, and you got Worthy. You got Wilkes. You got McAdoo. Come on. And then you get Shaq and Kobe. And then you get Kobe again. And now you got LeBron.

You had LeBron and AD. And now you got LeBron and Luka. Now, the Cowboys haven't had the superstar like these teams have had. I mean, you've got to go back to the 90s when you're dealing with Troy Emmett and the triplets. They've had very good players. They've had Hall of Fame players. Larry Allen, you've got DeMarcus

Ware. Dan's had a season or two. CD's playing well. But not like what the Lakers and the Yankees truck when you talk about the Lakers and the Yankees. And what they trot out there compared to what the Lakers and the Yankees. Talk about the Lakers and the Yankees and what they trotted out there compared to what the Cowboys have trotted out there, say, just the last 25, 30 years. It's been different.

Different. But the Lakers played extremely well. They got off to a great start. Then they had that lull in the second. They had a little lull in third. They got it close. Brunson had it going. And the thing is, he got that herky-jerky style,

and he's left-handed. And he's crafted that James Harden, how to make you follow him, make it look like you follow him, even if you didn't follow him. Because he's a playlist body, but he's tremendous at getting to the basket. And he got that hezy. He got the step back. And so you got to honor that because he can shoot the three. He got the mid-range. He can put the ball on the floor and get to honor that because he can shoot the three. He got the mid-range.

He can put the ball on the floor and get all the way to the rim. Even though he doesn't play above the rim, he can get to the rim. And he can get you to follow him. So he played really well. Cat struggled today. Cat did not have a good game. He rebounded the ball. But he didn't score well.

O.G. took up a lot of the slack for him. O.G. Ananobi had a really good game, especially shooting the three. Now, he missed some late that he wished he had had, like could have saved some of those that he made earlier. OG took up a lot of the slack for him. OG Ananobi had a really good game, especially shooting the three. Now, he missed some late that he wished he had had, like could have saved some of those that he made earlier and saved these for later. But it doesn't really work like that. But I think you really have to be impressed with the Lakers. Who saw this?

Nobody saw this trade. It's the biggest trade in NBA history. No player, Luka Doncic's age, have ever been traded that didn't want to be traded. Kareem wanted to leave. Shaq left on his own volition. You don't trade 25-year-olds

five-time All-NBA selections, a team that he just led his team to the finals. He was in the Western Conference Finals just two years prior to that. Those guys don't get moved without them wanting to get moved. That would have been the equivalent. You're trading a Bird.

You're trading a Magic. You're trading a Michael Jordan because that's what Luka is. He doesn't have the championship like a Bird and Magic had. Jordan didn't win until later in his career. I think year seven of what he won. 91, so he came in at 85. So 7th year, 7th year, 8th. Bird and Magic got started right away. Magic won his rookie year.

Bird won his second year. But you talk about a guy that was a 5-time All-NBA selection, a rookie of the year, finished a couple times in the top 3 in MVP votes. And that guy got moved. Yeah, that's a story. If Patrick Mahomes or Joe Bur guy got moved. Yeah, that's a story. If Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow got moved,

you don't think we're going to talk about that, don't you? Lamar Jackson gets moved. You don't think we're going to talk about that, don't you? Absolutely. But now you can get a better understanding and better context for those that are Dallas fans on why they're so upset. On why they're so pissed off at Nico Harris. Not only that, the trade happened.

And, you know, those that you have in place, you trade for AD. You still got Kyrie Irving. Kyrie Irving is still a box office. So you're hoping, you know, AD can come in and kind of offset and counter, you know, the trade by being productive and doing some of the things that Luka was doing. Obviously, maybe not to that extent because they're completely two different type of players in general. But he gets her. Yes. Now Kyrie goes out. Obviously, maybe not to that extent because they're completely two different type of players in general, but he gets hurt. Yes. Now Kyrie goes out.

Well, hell, now everything is really basically down the drain. So now you've done the trade and you see what Luka's doing. How do you think he's feeling? How do you think they're feeling over there?

Oh, it's terrible. I mean, it couldn't, just with Ocho, you remember we said it couldn't get any worse? Remember we talked about that the other night?

That was before Kyrie. We know the extent of Kyrie. We saw him go out, and we're like, well, damn. They make this trade. Everybody's upset. The guy that they trade for him, he's playing great. In 27, 28 minutes, he's got 26 and 13. So he's playing unbelievable.

He gets hurt. The guy that's supposed to keep them afloat until AD returns, he gets hurt and is more serious than they previously thought because now he's gone for the season, and he might not be back until after the new year in 26. So now you're looking at, and the Dallas fans are looking like, hold on, wait a minute. You traded for a guy last year was really the only year that he's really,

I mean, this year is really the only year that he's really, I mean, this year is really the only year that he's been hurt, Ocho. Y'all make it seem like the man been on Zion Williams' schedule. He has not been on Zion Williamson's schedule. He hasn't missed 200 games. He hasn't missed 300 games. Yes, he's missed games this year.

But, I mean, just imagine, Michael Jordan broke his foot in year two and the bulls like, you know what? We going to trade him. That's what the Nick that's, that's, that's exactly what the Mavs fans are saying.

What you say? Right. That's exactly what they're thinking. That's crazy though. That's crazy. I mean, just, just when you think about it,

when you think about how good, Oh, beer and hookah. Oh, we. That's crazy. I mean, just when you think about it. When you think about it. Oh, beer and hookah. Oh, we feel you're lazy. Yeah, they call the man hookah donchage. Hookah Luca. Are you seeing what I'm seeing tonight? This buzz for you. Yeah, he's up.

Look, bro. What are we talking about? Oh, Joe, you watched him tonight. He can score at all three levels. Oh, Joe, you watched him tonight. He can score at all three levels. The difficult shots look routine. I mean, he is as bad a shot-taker, maker as we have. There are very few guys that can take off-balance shots, falling out of bounds, off one leg.

For most players, that's a bad shot there's no bad shot for luca there's no bad shot for steph because they make those shots look routine and now he has somebody that he doesn't always have to facilitate because he can hand the ball off to lebron and lebron can run the offense and go get his shot or if both of those guys get tired they can pass the ball off to Austin Reeves. He can go facilitate, get everybody else involved, create his own shot. So they have three guys, and they're playing really good defense. They're doing a great job of swarming.

They got really good perimeter players in Vanderbilt and Dorian Finney-Smith. Gabe Benson is a good on-ball defender. He's a little undersized, but he's scrappy. But they got guys in Dalton Connect knocking down shots. He's coming back. He's like, hey, it is what it is. Yeah, they wanted to move on. I felt some type of way, but now I'm back. Let me go ahead and make

the most and let them know I can be a valuable piece to this train and what we're trying to accomplish. So give J.J. Redick a ton of credit because I know a lot of people, I was one of those people like, damn,

I know you can talk the game but can't you coach it? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you play, I mean. You never know

from coaches either. Even though you play the game, doesn't mean you can coach it. Right. Even though you can coach it, doesn't mean you can coach it. You know, being able to get the players

to obviously resonate with you and buy in is completely different than the latter. Yes. And he's done well. As well and matter of fact if they were losing listen to lake we're losing things were shaky what's the first thing people gonna say uh they don't blame him and i can't what's coach's name from uh from uconn that didn't want to come oh uh not ucon Yeah, it was UConn. Hurley. Dan Hurley. Dan Hurley. Taking the job. He's

giving us a shot or giving us a chance. I don't even think he actually wanted to come. I think he was just using that for leverage just to get him a contract at the UConn. But anyway, listen, Lakers playing really well, man. I'm excited for them. They still need a big... They still need a big arm. They still need

a big. If Jenny Buss and Mr. Plink are really serious about being in contention, especially going into next year, they got to give them a big. It's no different than Jerry getting a number two receiver. If you're really serious,

get your number two receiver, man. Stop playing. Y'all need to stop tripping. Because if coaching didn't matter, why didn't Shaq and Kobe win before Phil Jackson? Mm. If coaching doesn't matter. If coaching doesn't matter, what about Steph and Klay and Draymond? Darvin Ham had AD and LeBron.

Frank Vogel won with him. He didn't win no championship so i'm trying to figure i mean coach you know it doesn't matter look i can understand you might not like somebody and maybe you think darvin ham got a fair trade but i mean a fair a raw deal but if y'all don't think coaching matter you're high it absolutely matters that's why they have coaches if it didn matter, they just send the team out there. Hey, you can save yourself somewhere between $5 and $20 million.

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We're going to get back to this in a minute. But joining us, I know it's late. I don't know if he's here in the A or he died in Miami. That's the biggest ball you ever saw. That's the homie, Ricky Rose. What it do? What it do, family? What it do, fam?

What's happening? My two brothers, what it do? What it do, baby? Everything good? Man, everything good, baby. You know we shining on this side. Man, it's late. I'm sorry we kept you up this late, boss, but we had to get y'all here, man. Tell us what's going on. I know the car show is in June, but you got something happening before June. Tell us all about it.

Most definitely. The car show June 7th, but what we kicking off tomorrow in Louisville is the Millennium Tour. You better believe it. The Millennium Tour, you know, it's a lot of stars on the tour, but what made it exciting to me is me coming back out, bringing my new artist, Nino Breeze, back out to hit the stage. Trey Songz or Marion, Bow Wow, Plyce, Boosie. The list goes on. Chucky, y'all better rock with us. It's going to be special now.

Ron, let me ask you this. When you go on, okay, you want to go on tour. How do you decide the artist that you want to go on tour with you? How do you come, how do you like, okay, I want him, I want her, I want this, I want that. How do you decide that, boss? Well, whenever I call the shots in this, my tour is usually somebody that I got a relationship with jail with.

And on a third act, you might want to throw something else out there just for the crowd. That would should be a different vibe. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So this right here, this is the millennium tour. This has been a legendary tour.

That's been going on for many years now. And I felt it'd be good for me to come hit the stage. Nino Breeze hit the stage. We do it big. Close it out. Put our jewels on. Put our gear on. Five way. You know how we do that thing? You know what I mean?

So it's going to be crazy. City to city. Listen, boss man, we've been friends, man. We got to be going on 20 years by friends, man. We got to be going on 20 years by now, boy. We got to be going on 20 years, man. Listen, you've always been known. I've been known to talk to you, you know, in our

own personal conversations, in your interviews, you're always dropping wisdom. For the people that are listening, what's the best financial advice you've ever received? Because you're one of the most savvy businessmen and you're very, very good with your money

because as an artist, I don't think people understand how difficult it is and what you've been able to do and accomplish is maintaining longevity. You better believe it. Not just getting it,

but maintaining it long term. Man, please tell the people, man, how you've been able to do it because not very many, as long as rap has been around, everybody hasn't been able to do it. Because not very many, as long as rap has been around, everybody hasn't been able to maintain longevity. Well, for Rose, it really is the consistency. You know, I got my hands in 20 different things.

Everything may not win as much as others, and some may not win at all. But when you win, make sure you win big. When you repping something, you hold it up high. Everywhere you go. That's why I love staying on tour, love going across the country, because when I go, my brands go, my teams go, and we rep all around the world, wherever we go, and that's how we do it.

You know what I mean? Then when you come back home, buy you a little piece of land. They can make that car, but they can't buy that corner. They got to come see you to get that corner and you on that corner. That's what we're talking about. But boss, if you think about it, boss, music might have got you started.

That might be your foundation, but that ain't where you make the most of your money at, boss. And that's what, look at Hove. Hove might have got started in music, but Hov got a whole lot, he a billionaire because of something else. Definitely, that's what it is.

The music introduced us to the world. Now you got to take it to where you want to take it to. And you got to earn it. But you got to turn it all the way up. And as long as you stay solid, keep your face clean, and you mean to turn it all the way up. And as long as you stay solid, keep your face clean, and you mean what you say. Yeah. Boss, when I look at you and I hear you talk, man,

and I like brothers that get in paper, but don't talk down about somebody else. Because a lot of times we have the propensity, Raw, that we make a little paper or somebody make a little paper more than us, that we start to feel some type of way and we try to be negative towards that paper. When we got, there's an opportunity. And I told, I was telling Ocho this the other day, 80% of the money that's in circulation has been printed since 2020. So what that tell me, Ross,

if they run out of money, they'll print some more. So if your boy getting all of it, don't worry about it. Just wait a couple of days. They're going to go back to the factory. They're going to print some more for you. You already know. And we're going to make sure they keep printing us some.

And when it comes to us getting paper, we ain't talking down on nobody. This is motivational purposes only. Whenever you see that jet fly in, you see that yacht pull up, that's the hard work. You see the fun times. You see the rewards. But you got to see the grind. When you come to my story every morning, you're going to hear Rose preaching. Let's go get it.

Let's do something new. You got to get that piss out the back of that toilet. You got to get the rust off the side of mama house. It's 2025. We can't be bullshit, man. We're going all the way up, man. Right. Hey, listen, a lot of rappers now, a lot of rappers, athletes, and general athletes as well that are retired have gotten into sports ownership.

You're a huge advocate for our Miami Dolphins, obviously. If the Dolphins ever came up for sale, would you be interested in buying the Dolphins? Without a doubt. That's without a doubt. Yeah. That's without a doubt. And if we make that happen, I'll throw another in the water, boy. You know what I mean? I'll throw that in the water, boy. You know what I mean? I'll throw that in.

Listen, if you were able to be the takeover for Stephen Ross and you were able to be the GM, what's the first move you'd make for your daughters? You'll be honest. I'll spend some money. We're going to spend

some money. We got to get somebody else to back up Tua. We love Tua. He's an amazing person, amazing quarterback. But we just got to make sure we get somebody behind him. We're going to do some few things on the defense. It's a few things we got

to do. You know what I mean? For us to have that run, like y'all was just discussing. That Lakers run. We got to have the Lakers run. We need us some wins down here, and we really deserve it. As a true Dolph fan, we really frustrated, homie. Listen,

it's been a long time, boy. It's been a long time, and I'm talking about this past season. We was all thinking and dreaming Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. Based on what we did last year. And for those in the chat,

they're going to say, oh, you played for the Bengals. I'm from Dade County. I'm from Liberty City first. You better believe it. I was with the Dolphins before I got drafted. You better believe it.

I hope you remember that song you did at the house, Chad. Oh, yeah. I still got your boots. Yeah, I remember. I may have to delete that. Man, let me know. Let me know.

Let me know. I'm ready. Boss, let me ask you this. You were talking about the grind, how you get up. But it seems like people forget to grind. I'm not talking about you because you know what you went through. But when they see the yards, they see the private jets, they see the whips, they like, oh,

he did something. But they forget what Ross did. This is the byproduct. This is the finished product. But what about that 10, 15 year period that y'all didn't see Ross grinding, that y'all didn't see that struggle, that y'all didn't see me cleaning the cars, making $20 and do a little

extra when I go get gas and put the fresh scent inside of it. You didn't see that. All you see is the after, but nobody sees the struggle or wants to believe that there was a struggle in order to get to the other side. Without a doubt, it most definitely was a struggle for Ricky Rosado's 20 years before I got old. Nobody, you know, they did. They don't want to recognize that all the records I wrote for others imagine you having records that never work yet and you walk in the club and you hear something that you wrote and it's going crazy but guess what you stay down we stay

down right like yo it's so many it's so many potential MVP players that's riding the bench. There's so many people who's sitting down mad at themselves. Oh, man, I ain't going to even go in. No, I got to get in the game, and I got to show everybody my value. And once I get in the game, I ain't going to look back. And that's what we did. I tell Mojo this all the time. I say, Mojo, you don't realize how much success you can have as long as you don't care who gets the credit.

A lot of times, if it can't be done my way, Rosé, then hell with it. I'll blow it up. If you won't let me drive the boat, I'll sink the whole ship. It's so funny. And now that you mentioned it too, you talk about when it comes to athletes, anyone that has any type of success, a lot of people are looking for instant gratification, not understanding the process that goes into it. Anything that you get right away, it never lasts.

Ross, you probably remember, you told a story a long time ago. I had no idea how long it took, how long you was in the game before you even saw real money. How long you had to grind and get it

together and actually get it before. I don't know, you might have been, maybe 8, 9, 10 years in the game until you actually saw some real money as an artist and was like, okay. Okay, it's paying off. And that, everybody see the finished product you know the jewelry the houses the car and not understanding how long it even took to get to

that point oh believe that it most definitely took a long time and it's like when you're doing it for love you're doing it out of passion that right what it won't allow you to quit you gotta find a way to love whatever it is you're doing even if you're getting up and you're shooting your content two three in the morning you gotta get up and love it they gonna fill it in you they gonna see it in you and that's what it was it wouldn't allow me to quit so after i got on as soon as i could do my first show for $200, $300, $500,

that, that, that wasn't much, but that was progress for me. And it was more than enough to feed my love. So I wouldn't stop. And here we are right now. And that's what happened.

When people ask me, Ross, man, give me some advice. I say, find something that you're passionate about, because that's's what's going to get you out of bed. That's going to what's going to make you focus and lock in to do what you need to do in order to get done what you need to get done. Find your passion.

Don't, well, I think I want to do this. Well, see, the minute you tell me you think you want to do something, you're not passionate about it because what you're passionate about, you won't do. Absolutely. And you're going to win big when you passionate about it. Absolutely. It's just like laying that outfit out that night before school. Yeah.

You got to let, you got to lay the outfit out because if you don't put it out the night before, you might be rushing. You might wake up a little late, and you might not have the outfit, but that night before, I lay that thing out. Them Lee jeans was crispy. You put the socks

in the shoes. You make sure they're right. So just in case, don't nothing get... Hey, man, I'm ready. I'm ready. And when you get to school that next day, trust me, you're a different individual. That cut is going to be priceless. Man, look here. I'll be so clean the first day of school, if a fly light on me, I'll cut his throat. You ain't got no business on me.

Now, you know I'm too clean for you to lay your ass on me. Hey, bro, let me ask you. Like, when you started this thing, thing obviously everybody knew you from the music but you weren't satisfied with that because you felt that okay that's my foundation people know me for this but you know what since y'all know me let me see if y'all want to do business with the boss hey wait stop get at your boy get at your boy get at your boy i'm gonna tell you that's what luuka been doing. Luka got around some white homies.

He been eating the lemon peppers with that ranch dressing. I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you, that's what it is, man. And once I went out, I did business. Once Wings stopped seeing it, Checker seen it. All the other brands, Bugatti luggage, everybody else started falling in place. I ain't dropping the ball. We doing potato chips.

Let's do noodles. Okay, we did an amazing thing with Wingstop. Let's take it to the next level. Let's create our own chicken. That's coming next. Wow. Hey, how difficult is it for, obviously, you have to have some type of foundation, some type of background, have to have some type of success behind you. But when it comes to working with brands of that magnitude, is it difficult to get involved with them? Well, after you establish a certain amount of success, they can't see your vision when you go down and lay out,

look, this is the idea I got. This is what I want to do. I mean it. I love it. And besides, like me, I bought my first franchise, went to my second, my third. You know, they sitting back watching.

Damn, when he going to stop? He at 25. Hey, man. You understand? They understand my passion, how hard we went, and how amazing my team was. Yeah. You understand? So once they understand and know you got the team, they going to let you run with it, especially if you really get money.

That's what it's going to come down to. Who going to really wrap your brand and get some money? And I did them both well. That's the color that people be looking at. Yeah, black and white and all that other stuff, but they count green. People can see green. People might be colorblind, Rose,

but they can see green. They're colorblind, but once that thing start coming, everybody get on the same page. When that buttercow start blowing. That's all they come. They like, hey, give him another one. Hey, where you want your next

wing stop there, boss? Matter of fact, where you want your next tent at, boss? Let's go to L.A. and Texas, baby. Hey, boss, look, we know you love cars. Let me ask you a question. How did you decide to come up with a car show? Because I know you love cars. Let me ask you a question. How did you decide to come up with a car show? Because I know you love cars.

You were telling me when I did the interview with you a couple of years ago, you told me cars have always been your passion. Right. They always been my passion. I looked up one day,

realized I was at close to 60, 70 cars. Damn. Yeah. I'm at the promised land. That was then. I'm at the promised land that was then i'm at the promised land we at 250 plus acres and i find myself looking around thing

let's do this right we pick up the very first one and when i say the culture came out the streets came out the cars the bikes the bikes, the trucks, the ladies, the hustlers, the athletes. Chad Ocho was out there riding horses all day. I'm talking about horseback ride. That's what made me think of doing the rodeo next. I'm like, yo, if you do a rodeo, I'm riding the bull. And you know what? I'm riding the bull. And you know what? Hey, man.

I'm riding the bull. I'm going to take the challenge right behind you. I'm going to get on the bull, too, man. We riding the bull. Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose. Whoa, whoa. I got to stop you, Rose. Rose, I saw you on the diving board.

I don't know if you can hit it. I don't know. I don't know if you can hit the ground because the water's off. No, I can't hit that ground. I'm going to let you go right now. I can't afford that, man. I got shows to do. We on tour, man.

Yeah. Wait until the tour is over, boss. Let that tour be over before you do that rodeo. Listen, man. All right. I ain't going to do the rodeo, Ocho. I'm going to watch. I got you.

I got you. The biggest bulls out there so we can goddamn watch a real performance. I'm ready. Hey, I was at the car show. I'm supposed to be out there, you know, enjoying myself and looking at the car, looking at some ideas. Maybe if I happen to want to spend a little money. Mastering about three hours on those damn horses, man.

Hey, boss, let me ask you this. All day. On some of those cars, cars some of those cars be for sale it's like this i'm thinking about raffling maybe a uh raffling something off or maybe giving one away this year but all of mine you know i usually keep i buy cars throughout the day of the car show. Because there's some homies come out who's selling their cars. And in certain situations, I just made an offer they couldn't resist. I done bought one for 50, quarter million. Let's go.

Let's run it. 57 Bel Air convertible. Yeah, you love them Bel Airs. You love that 57, 55. You love them Bel Airs, boss. Them 57s, them 55s. I love them 73 Verts. You love that 57, 55. You love them Bel Airs, boss. 57s, them 55s. I love them 73 Verts, them 7-1s. That's that Dade County vibe as well.

So I love my convertibles. I love my Chevrolets. You know what I mean? That's just how I go. And if somebody bring the right Chevy, I'm going to take it off you. I'm going to take it off your head. I'm going to offer you something. You mainly a Chevy guy.

You mainly a Chevy guy. You mainly a Chevy guy. You ain't really big into Mopars or anything like that, huh? No, I'm a Chevy guy. Then I love me the Chevys. Then the Shelbys. Oh, okay. Forward to Kobe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Count Shelby. Okay. I rock with you in a major way, but that's how I usually go for me. And I cut it off right after that. That.27 Cobra. You got a Cobra? Of course. You got one, boss?

I had to. You know them Shelbys. I love them Shelbys. I was in one of my Shelbys today, man. I love them. I love them. I do. What you got on, Joe? When did the tour kick off, boss? The tour actually kicking off today. It's kicking off Louisville, Kentucky.

Like I say, the lineup, next level. All the heavyweights. Omarion, Bow Wow, Trey Songz, Plyce, Boosie Badass, Ricky Rose, Nino Breeze. We going all the way out. This tour, I'm going to enjoy it. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to watch the homies do their thing. I know the ladies going to be in the crowd. I'm going to come out there and hit them with hits back to back.

Bah! Bah! Bah! Bah! Nino Breeze hit them. Bah! Give them another Nino Breeze. Bah! I'm going to give them another one. Bah! You know, that's how we're going to do it. We didn't even plan. Hey, boss, I appreciate you staying. We appreciate you staying up night. Can't really appreciate

you staying up late. We know it's probably past your bedtime. The tour kicks off today. So, hey, bro, thank you for your time. Y'all make sure y'all go check out the Millennium Tour with the boss, the biggest boss you ever saw, Rick Ross, Trey Songz, Bow Wow, Plyce, Boosie

Badass. Nino Breezy. Nino Breezy. Better believe it. It's going to be crazy, man. Y'all better pull up Louisville, Kentucky. Get your tickets right now. Be there tonight. Ricky Rose, I'm going to wear me one of them big coats coming out there.

Hey, appreciate that, boss. Enjoy, man. We'll catch you down the road. Thanks for joining us. I'm going to wear me one of them big coats coming out there. Huh? Hey, appreciate that, boss. Enjoy, man. We'll catch you down the road. Thanks for joining us. Y'all keep killing them, man. Y'all number one in the streets, number one in the game, number one in the world. Don't stop, baby.

Yes, sir. Appreciate that. The biggest boss. It's too easy. Man. Man, this, hey. Man, that dude one of the greatest dudes, man. He too easy. Man. Man, this, hey, man, that dude one of the greatest dudes, man. He the same. He the same. Oh, Joe, I hit that man

in the DM. I said, bro, I need to holler at you about something. I need you to come on the podcast. Hey, the hell, it seemed like he had his phone in his damn head because he shot me his number. Man, I hit him. Boom, he has the phone. I said, bro, man, I just want

I need you to come on the pod, blah, blah, blah. And then, boom, he's like, cool. And we've been in touch. Hey, I don't care. If I hit him, he might be out of town. He'll hit me back. Hey, out of town, I'll be back such and such. When he touched down,

he on the phone it's one thing about man you got to think man Ross and I we've been friends now I'm talking about it might be 20 maybe 21 years it's been a very very long time and we talk about someone being thorough you hear a lot of people talk about being real

when you talk about somebody being consistent at the way they are and authentic. Yep. Man, he's the definition of all that. And has been since day one. Real. The definition of it.

Not putting on the act. Nope. Not putting on the front. But by action. Intent. Man, he's been the real deal, man, since day one. He ain't changed. He's always been the same regardless of success

and what he's been able to attain. Always been straight up, bro. And you know what, Ocho? Chad, y'all got to let that go. Y'all keep on talking about this man ain't no rapper, the real Rick Ross, he a correctional officer. Bro, y'all see what that man accomplished? That man got 250 acres.

He got the biggest house in the state of Georgia. He got one of the largest mansions in the southeastern United States. He owns 25, 30 wing stops. Got his own spirit. Bro, y'all hating. What y'all think they're doing? Y'all think that's stopping that man from getting money?

Y'all look ridiculous. Oh, he'll correctional officer. Oh, he did this. He ain't never been to jail. I mean, you know, really? I mean, that's a good thing. I don't think people understand the end goal. That's really a good thing.

Y'all need to, bro. Y'all need, what? I don't think people understand the end game. Whether you do it in the corporate world or whether you do it in the streets either way the end goal is to be successful yes the end goal is to always be successful the end goal is not to be in it not to be locked up right the end goal is to be six feet under yeah they get they go and prosper in whatever area it is that you want to succeed in. That's their goal. People love to quit and talk about money ain't everything. Try doing something without it.

Oh, I want you. Try doing something without it. Why y'all scamming? Why y'all doing all this bull jive if money ain't everything? Hey, before theyall wait my, hey, before they got direct deposit, y'all used to be standing outside by the mailbox waiting on the tax return, don't you?

Now they direct deposit, you ain't got to wait no more because they put it right into your account. But y'all stop this, man. Be supportive. I wonder, when you go back and study the history of Robert Downey Jr. And look, nobody, I guarantee you, when I go the history of Robert Downey Jr. And look, nobody, I guarantee you what I see when I go and I see Robert Downey Jr. do talks, do bars and stuff.

I don't look at the comments. Don't nobody be saying what you did before. Some of these great actors had trouble past. Don't nobody be in the comment. But let a black person be on there and let us be. It be us. Hey, one of the greatest

comeback stories of all time is Robert Downey Jr. I think people might not even remember. People might not even remember. Of course. If you own enough, you remember. There have been some other ones

that have had some great comeback stories. Lindsay Lohan. Lindsay Lohan. Listen, everybody isn't afforded the same type of grace. Stay with me now. Everybody's not afforded the same type of grace,

but I can tell you, but God has been good. Yes. Yes. Okay. My biggest I just look, man, whatever the case may be somebody paid their debt to society whether they have to pay a fine whether they have to go to incarceration once they pay their debt to society what the judicial system has deemed appropriate for

whatever act you have committed yeah i'm good with it yeah i'm good with it but you know i gave up my black robe i used to have a black robe about good with it yeah i'm good with it but you know you know i gave up my black robe i used to have a black robe about 30 years ago hell i was a judge and wasn't even in court yeah but i had to let it go yeah you know you know how society is people won't let people will never let it go society will never let it go and and obviously once you've gotten for forgiveness with the big man nothing else matters at that point. I want to see us get money. I like when we get money.

Oh, man, every time I see something that says, oh, black billionaires. Man, let me click on this link. Let me see who up there. See who got added. To see LeBron James and to see Michael Jordan and to see Oprah and Ho. And they got some guy in Nigeria. He wore about $12, $14 billion. I'll be like,

damn, okay. I like that. What's possible? To know what's possible because all I need to be able to do is see it. Because a lot of these people came from the same kind of beginnings that Shannon Sharp came from. Hell, they do it. Because a lot of these people came from the same kind of beginnings that Shannon

Sharp came from. Hell, they do it why can't I? I ain't got a hate on them. I ain't got a begrudge on them. Let me just find my lane and I'm just going to drive on down this road. Hey, try not to side swipe nobody. Try not to get side swiped and keep it moving.

Hey, I'll tell you what, Ochoa. I'm going to look at it like this here. I'm going to aim for the stars. But if I land on the moon, I'm still pretty damn high up. Right where you need to be. Right where you need to be. Kicking off, the tour starts in Louisville, Kentucky on March 7, 2025. It stops with major cities, Atlanta, Chicago, New York, and L.A. Tickets are on sale now at bptickets.com.

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Luka, 32 points, 12 assists, 7 rebounds, 4 steals, 4 made threes. LeBron James, 31 points, 12 rebounds, 8 assists, 1 block. And the Lakers win their eighth game in a row. I had to stand right here, old Joe. I'm looking at LeBron had 31. Jackson Hayes only had eight points. Austin Reeves struggled shooting tonight, but, hey, he missed the last couple of games with that calf.

But Don Kinnick and Gabe Benson gave you 23 points off the bench and 22 or less minutes. That's what you need. Because, look, LeBron's going to give you what he's going to give you. Luka's going to give you what he's going to give you. And most nights, Austin Reed's going to be somewhere between 15 and 20 points. Those two guys, the big three, that big three, is going to give you somewhere, Ocho, between 50 and 70 points on average. That's what they'll give you.

Now, I need to get 45, 50 from everybody else, from the other eight guys. Right. So, Gabe Vinson, can you give me 8 to 10? Connect, can you give me somewhere 10 to 12? Jackson Hayes, I need some logs. I don't need 8 to 10 points on logs. Dorian Finney-Smith, I know you can get hard from three

and hit a couple of threes. That's 10. Hey, Vanderbilt, get a couple of putbacks. Hey, dive to the basket. We'll get you a couple. Hey, get in the dunking spot. Dunk it home. But the Lakers are playing really, really well.

They're playing with a lot of confidence. Now, we're about to find out a lot, Ocho. They go on the road. They got Boston. They got Milwaukee. They got the Nuggets. Hold on. This is not back-to-back.

Are you just saying who they have on the road? No, no. I think they got Boston, the Nets, Milwaukee, the Nuggets, then Phoenix, if I'm not mistaken. You know what? Matter of fact, I have a question. If they're playing Boston, if that's the game that's coming up next, I got a little time.

Yeah, it's on Saturday night. It's a primetime game. Okay. If it's on Saturday night, how much do you think the courtside tickets are in Boston? It's a rivalry game, and it's LeBron and Luka. See, it's about who's playing. Who are they playing against?

Now, if you're going to want to see the Bulls or you want to see Orlando or somebody like that, okay. But if you're trying to say... You're basically telling me don't go. Just stay on. Oh, it's going to cost you a grip because it's last minute.

Because a lot of times people sell... A lot of times people sell those tickets so they'll be able to buy the season tickets next year. So I can get, what, $1,500, $2,000? No, there's going to be more than that, though, Joe. That's a primetime game on a Saturday night, bro. Everybody going to be there. Everybody want to be seen. This ain't no regular Tuesday night game.

This is a primetime Saturday game on ABC. The big dogs are out. Mike Brink. Bang! I mean, think about it. The Celtics are arresting their entire team today to get ready for the Lakers on Sunday. Al Horford was out. Drew Holiday was out. Przingis was out.

Jalen Brown was out. Now, remember the other night, Jason Tatum... Yeah, they play Saturday. Oh, I'm sure. Wait, I'm way in DR. My bad. Oh, and if you think about it, Ocho, last night, Derek White and

Peyton Pritchard went on. Peyton Pritchard had 43. Derek White had 41. They made 19 combined threes, the most threes ever made in a game by two teammates. And it's the first time two Celtics. Think about the great Celtics players have had 40 points in the same game. And it was Peyton Pritchard and Derek White that did it. That's crazy.

Imagine if Pritchard or Derek White consistently played like that night in and night out. I mean, I know it's difficult to do. But when you look at it, Mocho, that's what I tell people. People be like,

oh man, that little white dude, he bust your ass. All right. Every time. That man got 43 points in the NBA game. Mm-hmm. 43. And that's what I tell people all the time.

The worst guy in the NBA is closer to LeBron James and Michael Jordan than you are to him. Yeah. I'm going to say that again. The guy at the end of the bench is closer to a great player in the NBA than you are to him. But you know what's funny? Now that you say that, when people watch the game of basketball from home, they always hold other players to the highest standard

to the best that they've ever played. Yeah. And that's why they talk trash. When they talk trash about players to the highest standard, to the best that I've ever played. Yeah. And that's why they talk trash. When they talk trash about players that are in the NBA, they compare, they're using in comparison to those that are the greatest at what they do. Yeah. So that,

that's where the, the miss, the miss, the miscommunication and misconsumption comes from when they talk about NBA players thinking, well, here, I think,

oh, I can go out there and do that. The hair. Please. Man. Uh, comes from when they talk about NBA players thinking, well, here, think about, oh, I can go out there and do that. The hell you mean? Man, please. Man. Look, I just felt that when they came in, okay, how's Luka and LeBron going to play? Luka needs to have the ball in his hands

because LeBron can play off the ball better than Luka. LeBron can dive to the basket. You can put LeBron in the dunker spot and he can get it. And LeBron can catch and shoot. And if you notice, LeBron says he's the basket. You can put LeBron in the dunker spot, and he can get it. And LeBron can catch and shoot. And if you notice, LeBron says he's been working on catching and shooting because he knows Luka can penetrate, dish out, and he's going to have to knock those shots down. But he could also, hey, Luka starts to penetrate.

He dives to the basket. Luka passes off. He dunks it or lays it up. So with Luka on the ball, LeBron trusts him because he's the closest thing to himself that he's ever played with. That's not a knock on D-Wade, that's not a knock on Kyrie or any of AD or

any of the other players. But at this juncture, LeBron trusts Luka more than he's ever trusted any other player. Because Luka can do a lot of the things that LeBron can do. No other player that he's played with has been able to do that. Could score the basketball like he could, assist the basketball like he could, rebound the ball like he could.

Luka can do all those things. If you look at Luka's numbers, they're better across the board at the same point in time in their careers. Luka's averaging more points, more rebounds, and more assists. Now, he's not shooting the percentage because Luka take a lot of bad shots. What we think are bad, but he's going to make his fair share and break

your heart. If you look at this, Ocho, and you're like, you look around the league and you say duos, JT, JB, Tatum, and Brown. You look at Shea and Jalen Williams. I'm trying to think of other duos. You want to say D-Fox and Wimpy. Darius Garland.

Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell. Donovan Mitchell. Let me ask you this. If I give you a choice, what duo are you taking over LeBron and Luka? Right now with the way they play? Yep, right now. What? Nobody.

What about Murray and Joker? No, I'm not saying I'm taking them. I'm just mentioning them as well. They don't want to talk about them. I ain't taking nobody. I think that might be the only one. I mean, shh. What about Giannis and Dane?

Hey, they got a night. Look, they played together, but for 14, I think they probably played about 12, 14 games together, Ocho. And you look at the duos that you mentioned, JB, JT, Giannis and Dane. You look at Shea and Jalen Williams. Who else you mentioned? Oh, Murray and Yolk. Yeah.

LeBron and right there. LeBron and Luka right there. I mean, they're different right now, man. Yeah. The way they're playing. Different. We're going to find out. Hey, guess what?

We'll get an opportunity to see those duos. We'll get an opportunity to see Luka and LeBron against JT and JB. We're going to find out. That's what I like. Hold on, hold on. Yeah. Mark Cuba. that's what I like hold on hold on yeah Mark Cuban our next topic guys Mark Cuban

um breaks his silence don't you run the DR you think we don't know he in the DR we know he ain't take that baby by himself to the DR

did he chat did he chat mmhmm that ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought it up. Mark Cuban breaks his silence on the Luka trade.

Let's take a listen to his comments on the Luka trade, Ocho. Was your son upset about the trade? Yeah, I mean. Were you? Yeah, of course.

Yeah. Yeah, of course. And I've said this before. If you're, you know, if the Mavs are going to trade Luca that's one thing just get a better deal

you know no disrespect to Anthony Davis but you know get three if I still firmly believe

if we had gotten four unprotected number ones and Anthony Davis and Max Christie this would be a different conversation I agree

listen get more yeah I mean I agree but what more can you do huh first what more can you do there was nothing

there was nothing oh Joe think about this the Timberwolves gave up four unprotected picks and pick swaps for Rudy Gobert

would you rather have Rudy Gobert or Luka Doncic you're right You're right. You're right. In comparison to that. I feel like they just wanted to get him gone. That's why I don't understand.

Based on what you get on the court, how was whatever was going on off the court, that goddamn, that bad. That bad? Beer, hookah, lazy, the way you interact, antisocial. What are we talking about here? You pay me to do one thing. Be productive.

You took me to the NBA championship last year. Western Conference Finals last year. What are we talking about? Yeah. Man, please. Right, right, baby? yeah man please right right baby I know what you call it but look do I think do I think

Mark Cuban's never making that trade oh absolutely not Mark Cuban is never ever making that trade he's made it abundantly clear he had he had his replacement for Dirk he had Dirk 20 seasons. He was going to have Luka as long

as he could have him. He wasn't getting rid of him. And that's what happens, though, Joe. When you sell your company and you keep the minority shares, when they do things, they don't need your input now. Would you trade Luka, baby?

Yes. You say, yeah, I got to get him up out of there you trade Luka, baby? Yes. You say, yeah, I got to get him up out of there. You'd trade him? You'd trade Luka? Oh, Joe, Michael Thompson, who was the number one overall draft pick many, many years ago, who also happened to be the father of Klay Thompson, spoke on ESPN Radio about Klay's situation in Dallas. He thought with Luka and Kyrie that they had a chance to get back to the finals. Obviously, Luka left.

And I told him, well, when 80's coming, you still got a chance to get to the finals because 80 is that good. Then he's hurt. And then Gafford got hurt. And then Lively got hurt. So yeah, Klay is stuck in purgatory right now. And if they hang on to the 10th seed,

that'll be the story of the year in the NBA because I don't think they're going to lose 10 in a row. Honestly, without Kyrie, who's going to score? I'm just trying to figure out where are they going to get enough scoring from on a nightly basis

to win. Ocho, are they going to win some games? Yeah a nightly basis to win? Oh, Joe? Are they going to win some games? Yeah, I mean, I think you can hustle and win some games. But when you play superior teams, I just don't see it. I just don't know where they're going to get the scoring from. I don't. Oh, he said no. That'll be the story of the NBA

because I think they're going to lose 10 in a rowba because i think they're going to lose 10 in a row so he thinks they're going to lose 10 in a row i think so too because nope i mean it's hard i mean when you think about it who really can go create their own shot then when it is like okay he kind of hit a miss but but that's not what Klay does. Klay is catch and shoot. Klay likes to come out and pick. Klay needs somebody to get him open. Who can go create their own shots? When you look at this team, who can create their own shots?

Who can go really facilitate on a nightly basis and have success creating opportunities for someone else? I don't see it happening, Ocho. The Lakers, Mavericks, Spurs, and Heat are expected to pursue Kevin Durant in the offseason. Ocho, where do you want to see Kevin Durant laying? Wait, say those teams again? Lakers, Mavericks, Spurs, Heat. You know what? KD is on, I don't want to say back end of his career

because he Did that mean you're internet? Oh, Joe. On the field. I'm not sure. Can you hear me?

Yeah, you faded in and out. Hey, I froze. Yeah. I think... Yeah, man. There's Wi-Fi and DR. Yeah. If you look at it, Ocho, the Heat, I don't think Kevin Durant had a chance

to go to the Heat many years ago. He didn't go. Hearing the stories about taking cookies from LeBron, hearing stories about how he treated Jimmy, Kevin Durant don't strike me as a guy that wanted to be in that situation. Right. So now the Spurs. I think it's a two-horse race.

I think it's the Mavs and the Lakers. And the question is, what does the Mavs have to give up? They got that first-round pick. They probably got their own first-round pick. I'm trying to think about the other players. Because, obviously, you pair Kyrie, AD, and KD, you got the potential to have something special. You got all three guys that can score.

You got AD can protect the back end. You probably need another perimeter defender because that's the problem that the Suns have. That's the problem that Brooklyn had. They had guys that could score, but who could stop somebody from scoring? Phoenix, they got guys that can score. Who can stop somebody from scoring? So you don't like him to the Lakers then?

I like him to the Lakers. I just don't know if the Lakers have enough to satisfy the Suns. Considering what the Suns gave up to get him. They gave up their young nucleus to get him. So now they're going to want those four first-round unprotected pigs back. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I just don't. I don't see the heat. Because like I said, he had an opportunity to go to the heat a long time ago and he didn't go. And I'm sure the stories that's coming out about Pat, that's what Pat did, you don't understand. Bro, people not going to let you just...

First of all, they weren't your damn cookies. But I wish, I wish Coach Jim take something from me that I brought. That's mine. What? Please.

I'm gone. Right. First of all, I don't know how they do it at most people's jobs, but you know how we do. Boy, you don't play with nobody, fool. Not nobody that look like us. I don't know where your hands been, and you ain't buy a damn

thing in that bag. Boy, I please. You know what, when it comes to black folk, there's three things you don't play with. Black folk family, money and their kids. Money and their food. Actually, their food. I mean to say... I don't play by that, Ocho.

Don't do that. Nah,cho. Don't, don't do, don't do that. Don't do that. Nah, man, don't do that. So, but like I said, I think it's the Lakers and the Mavericks, but at the end of the day,

he wants, obviously he wants to go to a contender. Obviously the Lakers with Luka and LeBron are contenders. The Mavs, if they get AD

comes back healthy, Kyrie, Kyrie probably not going to come back to the beginning of the year. Right. But we'll see how that goes. The Spurs, you got Wimby. You got Dee Fox, Darren Fox. You got Stephon Castle.

You got Vassell. You got Keldon Johnson. I mean, you got nice little core over there, but I don't see Kevin Durant. I don't see KD in. I don't see him in San Antonio, Ocho. I don't. So with that being said, Maverick, I like the Mavericks. I like the Lakers.

But, hey, at the end of the day, Suns got to get the best package they can. They ain't fit to do no Luca. Yeah. The Volume. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.

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