Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers need time, KD responds to Kerr, GM calls out Silver

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to LaMelo Ball and the Charlotte Hornets defeat LeBron James, Luka Doncic and the Los Angeles Lakers 100-97. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Steve Kerr telling ESPN he wasn’t mad at Kevin Durant for rejecting a trade to Golden State and KD responding saying he just didn’t want to get traded midway through the season, an anonymous NBA GM calls out commissioner Adam Silver and much more!05:35 - Show start06:30 - Lakers vs. Hornets21:30 - Steve Kerr on Kevin Durant35:00 - GM calls out Adam Silver45:00 - LT wants Micah Parsons to stop podcasting57:00 - Klayton Adams’ new Cowboys identity1:03:42 - AJ Brown’ Super Bowl mannequin(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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thanks to 29 points from Myle Bridges, 27 points from LaMelo Ball, who hit the floater that really iced the ball game. LeBron misses two threes at the buzzer, but the Hornets win 197. Roy missed a couple of free throws, and Austin Reeves got kicked out. He felt he got fouled by Yusef Nurkic, and it was his first career ejection. And the Lakers lose to the Hornets, which is inexcusable. No matter what happened with Austin Reeves, when you got Luka and you got LeBron,

you still should have enough to win the ballgame. But unfortunately, they did not win. LeBron scored 16 in the fourth quarter, but it was not enough as the Hornets come to LA and win the game by the score of 100-97. Ocho? Yeah. What you thinking?

Hey, listen. First off, I'm going to skip, right? I'm going to skip the beginning of the book, and I'm going to go to the last page of the book. Boy, the last few minutes of that game, the last three minutes of that game, LaMelo, LeBron, LaMelo, Miles Bridges, LeBron. But anyway, the first half, very rusty.

Definitely you could tell they coming off an all-star break from both teams. Luke and LeBron early on in the game showed shades of what they could have been, what those two could have been, can be, actually, with those fast, great points, scores early in the game. Outside of that, it always comes down to Rui. At the end of the game, you got to hit those free throws. You got to hit those free throws to give your team a chance to put your team in position to win the game. It doesn't come to LeBron having to make one of those last 3.3s at the end of the game. Well, I'm looking at you right.

It's going to take some getting used to LeBron and Luka playing together. You know, both guys are at their best when they have the ball in their hands. And unfortunately, there's only one basketball and there's two of those great players. And so it seems like, you know, nobody wants to step on anybody's toes, Ocho. Okay, hey, Luka, you're going to handle it. Hey, you do what you do. LeBron, you do what you do.

But it's going to take a while and I don't know if they're going to have enough time to figure it out during this season, but hopefully in the offseason next year, they can get it together. But if you watch the last two minutes, the last two and a half minutes of this ball game, the Hornets, all they did was put Luka in pick and roll.

Lamello ball, it doesn't matter. They tried to hedge it. They tried to double it. Lamello give the ball up. He go get it back. And he brings Luka guy again. They put him in the pick and roll. And they got a couple of wide open threes.

And then Lamello split. They ended up taking Luka out. They brought Vanderbilt in, but that makes them really small. So now they got a couple of wide-open threes. And then LaMelo split. They ended up taking Luka out. They brought Vanderbilt in, but that makes them really small. So now they got no rim protection. LaMelo splits it, gets down, hits the floater. And basically that was the four-point lead that they needed. LeBron ends up hitting a big three, but they have to foul. They go make both free throws, and then LeBron missed two threes at the end.

But Luka's going to have to get better in the pick and roll. They're going to have to do a better job. They seem to be in control of this ball game. And then I think they allow the Hornets to go 20 to something, 21, 22 to one run. Yeah. That can't happen. Right.

I got a question for you too. Now, you say both players, LeBron and Luka, both are comfortable liking to be on the ball. Luka tonight, to me, looked very uncomfortable out there. He's not used to playing without the ball in his hand. So how long does it take?

Or does LeBron understand that Luka likes to be on the ball and he's much more comfortable on the ball playing in rhythm like that, especially in transition? Well, LeBron doesn't have a problem. LeBron is better at playing off the ball than Luka, although LeBron plays better with the ball in his hand.

But he's still more comfortable than Luka playing off the ball. But at the end of the day, Ocho, they're going to have to figure this out. And LeBron was like, okay, y'all do y'all thing. And then all of a sudden the game starts getting out of hand. LeBron's like, F this, give me the ball.all thing. And then all of a sudden the game starts getting out of hand. LeBron said, F this, give me the ball. I got it. I mean, that's what it comes down to.

Hey, F this, I done gave y'all enough opportunities. But that third quarter is what doomed them. And the Lakers, that kind of been their bugaboo. The last four or five years, the third quarter, they come out flat. They had a, what, eight-point lead? I think a seven, eight-point lead to go into the half. And then they got get outscored 32-18 in the third quarter. And so JJ is going to have to do a better job of getting those guys fired up.

They can't come out of their lap lackadaisical, bull-jiving around because the next thing you know, a 13-point lead. They had a 13-point lead, Ocho, in that third quarter. And now all of a sudden they end up going, basically, they end up going down in the start to fourth. They're down. Up, you know, up seven, had a lead as many as 13, and now you go down because you get outscored 32 to 14.

It's fun. Listen, the game of basketball is a game of run. It's a game of run. Most of the time when those runs actually do happen, you want to keep it as close as you can. You want to keep it as close as you can. But sometimes, listen, it gets away from you. It gets away from you, especially if you don't have a bench

that can score consistently and give you buckets when your starters aren't in there. Yeah. And Luka's rusty right now. You can tell he's rusty. Five of 18, one of nine from the three um he's averaging what 14 15 points a game um i don't know if i've ever seen luca play a stretch where he's averaged 15 points a game um he's due to have one of those games where he goes

for 35 40 10 11 he's doing one of those games uh austin reeves getting kicked out didn't help because you know austin is all they got three guys that can really go get their own shot. LeBron, Luka, and Austin Reeves. Everybody else is dependent. Give me a put me in a situation, run a ball screen for me, skip pass, you know, hammer pass,

do something. Pin down. Those three guys can go get their own shot. Okayke is struggling he's he's rusty uh really the only guy that could that that's playing was playing decent and lebron didn't have it going early it was like he's just letting it go because if you look at lebron what did lebron have in the like i think he had 10 and a half i don't even know if he scored in the third quarter right and and so you know know. It's just so funny, how LeBron can pick and choose

when to turn it on. And when he turns it on, he's efficient. When he wants to take a game over and say, you know what, like you said, in that fourth quarter, I think he had 16 in the fourth quarter.

Yep. And say, you know what, I got this. This is ridiculous. Yep. But then they get lax on defense leave wide open threes oh yeah that's that's that's their problem it's always going to be their problem they really don't have rim protection i don't i don't know look i understand they needed

a big but it's hard for me to believe that alex lynn is a better big right now even at dwight howard's age of 39 it's hard for me to believe Alex Lynn. I'm not saying Dwight Howard is Orlando Dwight Howard. I'm not saying he's Houston Rockets Dwight Howard. You don't even need to see that. Yeah, he might be the Shane Hushharks. Just think about this. Even though what you're saying about Dwight Howard being better,

at his age, has there ever been a scenario where a player who hasn't played? I'm not sure how long it's been since Dwight Howard's been out the league. Has there ever been a scenario like this where a certain position is need maybe be big, maybe forward, maybe be a point guard that hasn't played in a while. And he's come back despite his age because he's better than what you have on your bench. No, it's hard when guys start, you know, start missing a year, two years. You know, I think the last time, I'm trying to figure when the last time Dwight played. Well, hell, he's up for the Hall of Fame, so it's been a minute. I mean, real talk, it's been a minute. But they don't really have any they don't have any depth yeah, they miss AD, but

you tell me what team AD on and somebody says they offer you Luka Doncic that you're not going to move it y'all making it seem like the Lakers blew this, you're talking about a guy that's six years younger yeah

and forget Luka being Nick at the start of this season, missing all the games that he's missed. I think this is the first time he's going to play fewer than 60 games in his NBA career. But y'all talk about, y'all call it street clothes. Y'all call it always ding. Now, all of a sudden, you make us have a little struggle. Y'all miss AD.

Y'all miss AD AD what team wouldn't trade there are a handful of teams that wouldn't trade their best player or their second best player for Luka Doncic right Milwaukee probably wouldn't do it because it's reported that they brought the trade to Milwaukee

and Milwaukee said no probably they wouldn't trade JT for him. They wouldn't trade Jokic. Probably not going to trade Shea. But everybody else, game. Everybody else is game. Right. It's crazy.

So, but it's a disappointing loss. These are, I mean, if you're trying to make a, if you're trying to make a move, these are the games that you gotta, that you're gonna have to win. You're gonna have to win.

So congratulations to the Hornets. They come to LA, get a victory, 197. I would like to be on, I like to be a fly on the wall Ocho in a situation like this

where a game that you should have won because even with the players that the Lakers have I still believe they're a better team than the Hornets and you didn't win I wonder what the coach said

because I know what an NFL coach would have said he'd have been cursing and kicking-ish it ain't no hey guys we just yay

we left some plays out there. We, you know, the 50-50 ball. Ain't none of that. You lose a game and your coach believed that you had the better team and it was because of effort and things like that. Oh, yeah. Coach going losing his mind. Well, hey, honestly, it's the third quarter.

You can lock in on the third quarter. Third quarter is where everything got away from him. It did. It did. But how many times, Chad, y'all know if you follow the Lakers, how many times have we said the third quarter? We say that year after year after year after year.

Game after game after game after game. I mean, at some point in time, I mean, the coaches know that. The players know that. I don't really know what else there is to do or to say. Right. Except go out there and do it. Because it's not like we're breaking news. This is not no, you know, you got to open FBI files and unsealed documents.

They played terrible in the third quarter. And this has been a reoccurring thing for the last four or five years. So I really don't, I'm not sure what the issue is. I don't need to be sure. That's up to J.J. Redick and the coaching staff.

Scotty Brooks, Nate McMillan, it's on them to figure that issue out. And the funny thing about it is J.J. can talk about it all he about it is JJ can talk about it all he, all he want. Scotty can talk about all he want. Well,

it hell when the players come out at halftime, they got to be the ones that execute it. They got to be the ones that come out with the energy. They got to be the ones to play on both ends of the court or both ends of the floor. Yeah. We know that the problem that Lakers is going to have with no AD is defense. Yeah. Because now they have to have with no AD is defense.

Yeah. Because now they have no back line of defense. They really don't have a guy that's really good in the pick-and-roll defense. And you see, like I said, the last two and a half minutes, all they did was go pick-and-roll the game. They put Luka in pick-and-roll with Bellow handling the ball, and they got wide-open threes, and Lamello iced the game basically with a floater.

I mean, it's not complicated. Everybody see what's going on. I mean, even the most, like, damn, they running the same play. Went for a high pick, put Luke in a pick and roll, boom, get what I want. So that's on them to figure this out. At some point in time, I'm sure Darvin Ham had this issue. Frank Vogel had this issue. Now JJ had this issue.

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And he still gets criticized. So why would he want to face all the BS again? KD responded with a comment, that's not the reason why I didn't want to come back. I just didn't want to get traded midway through the season. Do you believe KD? A little bit. A little bit of me believes him.

Obviously, I think even though it was midway through the season, I think through the experiment in Phoenix, I don't think it's worked. I think it's failed. You think it's an absolute failure. Brooklyn was an absolute failure. Yeah, that was too. I think, I mean, for

KD, I would, I hate calling it ring chasing, but I would have went to the better situation, obviously going back over there with Draymond Green and stuff, and trying to run it back, and trying to run it back again. I think the missing piece for them to get them over the hump and probably give them the opportunity in the West

would be KD going back, because what's going to happen right now in Phoenix? Where are you going in Phoenix? Nothing. Nothing at all. Nothing at all. But I think you want to stay there. And if you know KD,

know personally, and you've watched him from afar, and you know his story, he loves the game of basketball. He loves the game of basketball. And if he's going to be behind the eight ball he will do he's going to scratch call and do everything he can to have success down there in arizona and leave out the right way i think the thing why katie was so successful he didn't have to worry about anything but ball right in brooklyn he had to be a leader you see okay see and and and Phoenix he has to be a leader yeah Steph took care of that Draymond took care of that Clay took care of that so now he just gets

to do what he wanted really wants to do which is yeah I don't gotta we have no pep talk I ain't gotta say pick this ish up I ain't gotta do none of that I come in I do what I do I go home and chill that's what he wants to do. Got no problem with that. A part of me does believe that he didn't want to get traded during the season. So he wanted to ride this lot with his boys. Ride out what? I mean, where do you think you're going, KD?

Listen, they started it off. They thought it was going to work. They thought the trio with Bill, Devin Booker, and him would work some magic out there in the West. It hasn't worked itself out, but I just think the fact that he's bounced around from Brooklyn, went to Golden State, he didn't want to continue that same trend

and be like, here we go again. What's going to happen? At some point, when your relationship's on, you get tired of moving on, man. You get tired of moving on and sometimes you're like, you know what some point at some point when your relationships on you get tired of moving on man you get tired of moving on and sometimes you be like you know what I'm just stick this one out I know it ain't working but I'm gonna stick it out and do everything I can until it's

time to leave and I can tell you when he's leaving in the goddamn summer okay so what'd you do all you did is lay the inevitable you was miserable for another three four months because they're not going nowhere they're not doing anything right right right they don't have any defense they're just like they're just they're just like the lakers they got no defense they got all those scores

i mean you got two guys that really is the same guy book is more athletic nine i think he's a better player i don't think he is i know he's a better player than I don't think he is. I know he's a better player than Bradley Beal. But that saying, you got all that scoring. Where your defense at? Now, they get hot. You got on a given. Not even any of those guys can go to 30 or 40. Now they've relegated Bradley Beal to the bench because they were hoping he would waive his no-trade clause

and then they could trade him and get Jimmy Butler. But he's like, nah, I put that in there for a reason. I put that in there for a reason. I don in there for a reason I don't want to go anywhere I'm not going anywhere so whether you want me or not you know what I'm saying Ochoa sometimes it's cheaper to keep them that's crazy how

players you see the leverage NBA players have when it comes to stuff like that he don't have no leverage Ochoa he got no trade clause he and LeBron James are one of the two players that have no trade so if he didn't have that his ass was got no trade clause. He and LeBron James are one of the two players that have no trade. So if he didn't have that, his ass was gone. I know.

That's why I said leverage. That's all I meant. But you mean to tell me you don't want me because I'm not as playing as well as you thought I should. I'm trying to do

everything I can. Obviously, injuries are hampering me performing to what we're used to seeing me play like. And I just got here and you're trying to get me to uproot my family? Man, child, please.

Put this no trade clause in there. It's in there for a reason. There's a reason why. Because there's a chance. Big-eyed man coming off the bench. Big-eyed coming off the bench, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah.

That'd be like you. They like, man, we want to move. You're like, nah, I ain't going. Okay, aren't you? You're the slot. You're like, nah, I ain't going. Okay, Archie. You the slot. You're the third receiver now. Third who? You're the third receiver now.

Oh, you might be talking about Madden. Third receiver. You got a no trade. You don't, and they want to trade you. You don't want to go. Okay, you're the third receiver. Right. I guess you going there. I guess you going there get your little three four targets

Sunday and come on home hey hey that's a lot of cardio boy that's a lot of cardio damn I never looked at it like that but when you're making that kind of money

oh you want me to play what wait a minute let me look at this how much I'm making and that's all you want me to do okay bet I mean the competitive wouldn't be happy

yeah but I'm not going to do anything to jeopardize that money right I mean Bradley Beal probably making 45, 50 million dollars a year so

okay this all y'all want me to do is get y'all 28 minutes a night, 30 minutes a night and ain't really no strain on me because I'm coming off the bench. I mean, look, he's going against me coming off the bench. A lot of times you coming in there, you know,

that's the second you're going against the second unit. So I guess they say you can get your points that way because, you know, the ball is going to go to KD book first. Those are your first two options. Bradley Beal has never been a third option. He's always been, he was one, two, when he had John Wall when John Wall left

you know it was him I guess he had I think he had Russ he had Russ for a year or two but he was the first scoring option even though Russ had the ball in his hand so he's never been like this it's never been a situation where he's not used to being able to get as many shots as he want he's third option

no matter how you look at it, oh, he wanted the best third option. At the end of the day, you're still the third option. Yeah, you know what? Even as a starter, and I'm thinking about if I was a starter as the number one, let's say I was the number one in Cincinnati, same scenario.

I go to New England, and I'm the third, or I'm the fourth guy because the options in front of me are better at that time in that specific system that does something to your psyche

you know that right it does something to your psyche I'ma take your word for it I mean I wasn't you know I wasn't no like that I wasn't no third option

or so but I take your word for it I believe you here you go you know I'm just what you want me to do how you want me to

I can't empathize for a situation I haven't been, I have empathy for you. So you know what I'm gonna do, Ocho, you don't have empathy. Empathy requires you

to divorce your ego, separate your ego, and see yourself in a similar situation. So you know what, Ocho? There you go. Here I go.

I'm a third of Oz, man, that's a good job, man. Pretend, pretend you Bradley Beal right now. I go from somewhere where I'm able to play freely.

Now I'm coming off a bench where I can't take a high volume of shots, so now I'm messed up up here. Not only am I messed up up here, when I do get on the court, sometimes I might hesitate because I'm not in rhythm. That means my shot efficiency and shot selection has to be that much better. It does something to you. Well, look, I'm going to tell you what, like, I think when I got back, I got back to Denver. Rod was clearly the number one.

Easy Ed was coming off a severe leg injury. So, you know, it's basically me and Ed fighting for two, three. But, I mean, there are some games I got... So you have been in that position where you were the three? No. I was always... I finished... No, I never finished. When I was on the team, I never finished. No, once I became what I became, I never finished

worse than second in catches on the team. Okay, I understand that. But when Ed... When Ed... I hear you. You you talking from a statistical standpoint yeah i'm just saying you were that you were the three no matter what i was not the three i was ross smith and mccaffrey were the ones with the one and rod was one i was two and i was two a and was to me i don't know what you're talking about.

It sounds good. It sounds good. You better check it. It sounds good. Hop, hey, you tell me the time you seen a third receiver get 214 in the game. What happened when somebody heard? I mean, what third receiver you know? Just saying.

I got you. I got you. I'm with you. But look, I understand. But for me, Ocho, they're like, man, dang, man, you ain't catching no passes. And they used to ask me, I said, bro,

I got the check. I deposited. It cleared. That's on y'all. I'm going to make the same amount of money. See, the thing that I love about this is that I'm going to make the money. I don't get paid by the catch. I don't get paid by the touchdown. Y'all want to throw me 10?

Y'all want to give me 10 targets? Right. Fine. If you want to give me three targets, I'm going to make the same amount of money. So I ain't stressing out. I say, I'm too old now. Now, if y'all about to want to got me when I was in my 20s, y'all got me in my damn 30s. I got kids, man. I'm going to get all this money I'm supposed to get. I ain't give me y'all ish back. And in a year or two, I'm going to take my black ass home anyway.

So y'all can have at it. I ain getting man I'm not stressing out about catching no passes I'm gonna make the same amount of money Ocho I'm gonna make the same so it wasn't no strain on me y'all throwing to me I'm gonna catch it

if you don't you know A84 we probably should've gave you a more bro the game over y'all telling me what y'all should've done

they don't do who they helping all of this should make y'all mad because that's what y'all get paid for. My job is not to tell you what I'm open on. Your job is to see it. Y'all tell me, let the coaches coach. The players going to play. I'm playing.

I ain't calling no plays. Now, what I would get mad about to come fourth quarter 84 what you what you like I'd like for this game to be over with y'all been bulljacking y'all been bulljacking for three and a half quarters

that's what I would like I would like this game to be over with and so I can go on and get out hey nah don't be asking me no questions now hey y'all gonna spread it around you know we gonna spread it around this week over with and so I can go on again. Hey, nah, don't be asking me no questions now. Hey, y'all gonna spread it around. You know, we gonna spread it around this week. You know, hey, Ed, be ready. Rod, be ready.

Sean, be ready. Backside of the backfield. Now, all that spreading around ish ain't work. Right. Hey, 84, what you like? I like for this ish to be over with. Hey, y'all come up with a game plan next week. I can picture you saying that too.

Yeah. Now all of a sudden, old choke, we got five minutes left. We down 14. What? I hated being in that situation, man. I hated getting those empty calories. Because when the game was milked, tongue hung in the balance, now we got four minutes,

we down 14, we on the 10-yard line. What you like? Okay. I like to have more opportunities in the first three quarters. No, y'all keep calling, y'all keep calling,

y'all keep calling what y'all was calling. Man, y'all just bad. Hey, Ocho, man, hey. Hey, man, please. Y'all ain't finna get my blood pressure up. I learned a long time ago, Ocho. Like I said, that's why I stopped putting incentives in my contract.

Once I realized they could manipulate that and jack me out of my 100 grand, I said, man, I wish I might. I'm not putting another incentive. They couldn't give me a million dollars in my contract to go to the Pro Bowl or lead the team because what y'all paying me, I should do everything that y'all trying to incentivize. I'm the highest paid tight end.

I should lead my team in receiving. I should go to the Pro Bowl. I should be an all-pro. I don't need no incentive. Y'all mess with that. Give me my money. I want all my money. Hey, I ain't got not one incentive on you.

Got not one. Even if I come to work on time. Nope, there ain't no incentive for me. If I make weight, nope, I don't want that either. Nope, I don't. Put it all in there. Yep, give me everything I'm supposed to get. Hey, Shannon, they're going to pay you over 17 weeks.

This is what you're paid. This is how much you make it. Okay. I'm cool with that. Right. Man, I better stop worrying about that Ochoa Cubs. Man, when they jack me out of my, what you call them? I said, man, y'all ain't finna make me do something bad to somebody up in here.

Yeah, listen, that's the game they play now. That's the game they play. An anonymous NBA GM called out Adam Silver. Adam Silver is obsessed with tournaments. Lay-in, end-season, not all-star. They've not proven to benefit our league. Ocho, what you think? I mean, the head guy saying that the tournament's trying to create excitement,

trying to create viewers globally as well, and it's not benefiting the league, it's not benefiting the players. How is it not? The end-season tournament. Isn't the end-season tournament allowing the players, how is it not? The in-season tournament. Isn't the in-season tournament allowing the players to make extra money and benefit them by having it being played in-season?

Well, I guess they're trying to drum up support. Because here's the thing, Ojo. You got $77 billion over the next 11 years. Uh-huh. So we got to... Because here, the thing is kind of like soccer. You know soccer got all the tournaments they got?

A Copa and a this one and a that one. Yeah, yes. Champions. Yes, so I think that's what Adam Commission is trying to get a play off that. The play-in tournament, I mean,

people didn't like that. People thought, look, I remember one time when the three-point competition was thought as gimmick. I mean, the three-point shot. They're like, man,

this is a gimmick. Right. Now look, everything is a gimmick until you get used to it. The forward pass was a gimmick. Right. Yeah, the forward pass, like, what are The forward pass was a gimmick. Right. Yeah, the forward pass,

like, what are you, that's a gimmick. Ain't no, that ain't gonna be. Now, can you imagine a game of football without the forward pass on you? Wouldn't make no sense. It would make zero sense. So, look, I get what,

I get what Commissioner's trying to do. He's trying to do anything he possibly can to get eyeballs to the television, to watch these games uh and so to play in tournament I mean to play in tournaments are always good um you know teams like look normally one through eight you made the tournament you know where you are but now eight through ten um you got to play what? No, yeah, no, seven. No, what is it? Seven play,

10, and eight, nine play, and then that winner, those two winners play each other. And that's the, so whoever wins,

they're the seventh seed and then the next two is the, is the, the winner is the eighth seed. But I get, I get what commission is trying HC. But I get what

Commissioner's trying to do. I get what I really do, Ocho. You got to try something. I mean, you got this kind of money at stake. You got to try something. I can deal with all of them. The only thing, I don't like the All-Star. I don't like the All-Star.

The format is not what it should be. And the GM that's complaining, the GM that's complaining about what Adam Silver silver is doing why don't the gms have ideas as well why don't they have ideas to continue to grow the game why don't they have ideas that they run by silver to say listen i think we can do this the players will benefit from it us as owners will benefit from it and those that are watching they'll enjoy it instead of saying, oh, non-masaurus complaining about what Silver Edge

is actually doing. Well, rest it so, David Stern, you're like, look, y'all are going to either play or we're going to claw back

some of this money. Which one you want? It's really that simple. You shouldn't have to beg guys to play hard, Ocho, if you're making $150, $200, $300 million. I don't really think it's asking too much. I really don't.

Now, I could be wrong, Chad, and y'all might be totally disagreeing. Oh, the season's too long, and yada, yada, yada. I get all that. The season isn't any longer than what it was the last 50 years. How long have they been playing 82 games? Forever and a day. So this notion about all the games, well, no, it's not.

No, it's not. These guys should be in better shape because they know better. They got better training. They got better nutrition. They got better supplementation. They got around the clock physios and trainers and yada, yada, yada. They got chefs

that prepare their food and cook whatever. So there's no excuse to play hard, to ask you to play hard. You make it $300 million, don't you? Damn. I got to coach you. Let me get...

I don't even need 300. Give me 150. I will play hard. Give me 150. You know what, Ocho? I remember working hard when I was making $5 a day. Come on now, talk to me. I remember working hard

making $10, making $16, catching 1,000 chickens, making $1,000, catching 1,000 chickens, making $1,000,000, catching 16,000 chickens, make $16,000. I worked hard for that little bit of money? What the hell you think I do for $10 million, $20 million, $30 million, let alone $300 million? And if you think about it, I think if players, when they make that kind of money, if they understood

and never forgot where you came from before you had that kind of money and what you did to get to where you are, I think sometimes they lose sight of that. They do. I really do. You know, money, money, a change in that. It changed. Sometimes it change you for the better. Sometimes it change you for the worse. I think sometimes money makes you more what you already are.

What are you? Ocho, at your core, what are you when you don't have it? Because now when you get it, it exacerbates what you already are. That's a good one there, boy. That's why people, you know, they haven to even... Bro, if you got an eating problem and you on a college budget, what happens if I give you 10, 15, 20 million dollars, don't you?

Hey. What? Yeah, money don't... Money... Oh, he changed when he got... No, he wasn't. He was always that. He just needed the money for y'all to see him.

Yeah. And his true self. Right. That's all that was. He changed. He's always been this. He or she, I'm not going to say he just,

just he, he or she, whoever. Women, women as well. Women as well. Yes. Yes.

Sometimes they ain't't gotta be money sometimes it could be attention you know you know what happens when you get that you never had it before

and you start getting it from everywhere you get your big head you know you start feeling yourself you know you start overvaluing

the boy so yeah I get You know, you start overvaluing the boy. So, yeah, I get what Adam is trying to do. Adam is trying to grow the game, because, you know, soccer have these in-season tournaments and all this stuff. We saw what hockey just had, what is that called? The something for it. The Nations.

The Nations. Four Nations or something, what do you call it? It was Finland, Sweden, Canada, and US. Yeah.

See? But one thing, hockey, hockey, they be playing hard. They be at it. Once you touch that ice, you strap up.

You strap up. They, they, they, they, listen, you strap up. You strap up. They ain't, they ain't, they ain't. Listen, you know what time it is. I think, Ocho, I think, I think a lot. I think the difference, Adam, Adam and the players, he views the players as partners.

Right. It's their reunion, their partner. I'm partner, I'm partner with the owners. We partners. Mm-hmm. Y'all employees. Right. It's their internet partner. I'm partner, I'm partner with the owners. We partners. Mm-hmm. Y'all employees. Right. Just like the NFL,

the partners are the broadcast networks in the NFL. Right. The employees are the players. Players, right. And they don't let you,

they don't let you forget it as such. Mm-hmm. And if you do forget, they will remind you. They remind you. They will remind you. They remind you. Yeah, yeah.

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and put his focus on football. He's a great player, but guys, let's do more. Let's play more football. Let's podcast. Micah in particular, he'll have a movie, an action movie. The brother got it, but don't forget where you are at. Listen, I like LT, and anything coming from one of the greatest, if not the greatest of all time,

especially on the defensive end, and he's talking about one of the greats right now, I agree, but I kind of disagree, especially with the times that we're in right now. Michael Parsons, he plays really well. He plays at a very high level, along with his podcast. The podcast doesn't take anything away from him

on the actual football field between the lines. When the whistle blows, you know what you're getting, Woody Lepp. You know what you're getting from Uno Uno. Every time. Now, when you look at them defensively, you'll say, well, they got some weak spots. Well, Micah only plays in one spot. He can't be everywhere.

Sometimes he stretches lines sometimes. You know, sometimes they go down in the three. Sometimes they got him sitting down in the box at a linebacker position moving around trying to find ways because he's good in space. Real question,

but stop lying. All that, oh, we're going to have a Ravens defense. We're going to have a Seahawks defense. But he's supposed to say that, huh? No, you don't. You ain't got to say nothing. Keep your mouth shut, Ocho.

No, you don't. You've got to stop telling these guys they've got to say something. I didn't say they did, but you have to believe in your team and who you're playing for. Keep it to yourself. So how does he? Okay, he says what he said. Okay, we're going to win. When he don't win, how does that make him look, Ocho?

It make him look crazy. But, you know, can I say something real quick? Yes. He say something crazy all the time, right? Michael Parsons has been talking crazy all season. You know, this season. When the Cowboys do play, you know who do show up? They show up in the passing game game what about when they get the

ball run down their throat hey you know they run away from your mom they ran away from lt what do you do you ran away from reggae yeah you're right you're right listen i mean listen i mean lt has to understand we're in a different time we're in a different era you know some guys they like to talk about the game before like to talk about the game of football after it's being played. They focus on it when they're at it, but in their off time, they have podcasts. That's just where we are right now. Are things going to change if he stopped doing his podcast

and all of a sudden he could have? I mean, no. Michael Parsons is a player that he is. He's one of the great ones in the NFL right now at what he does. And it just is what it is. He's one of the great ones in the NFL right now at what he does. And it just is what it is. I respect L.T. I like L.T.'s opinion, though.

Paso Tan got a podcast? That's not him. T.J. Watt got a podcast? That's not him. The principal player of the year. That's not him. Let me finish. You call the names that are good at what they do at their specific positions,

but that's not what they want to do. Michael Parsons wants to have a podcast because he likes to talk. Some guys want to win. And some guys want to be famous and promote themselves. Now, which one you want to be? Because, see, the quickest way to build a brand is to win. Michael Jordan brand, what is it? Magic Johnson brand, what is it? Magic Johnson brand, what is it?

Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Montana, what were their brands based on, Ocho? LeBron James, Steph Curry. Hey, you heard everybody's name? You heard everybody's name you heard everybody's name right they were ball dominant and were in control of those wins and

losses you talk about a defensive you talk about a defensive player you talk about a defensive end that can change the trajectory of a game but had nothing to do with wins and losses. Oh, it definitely does. So LT didn't impact the game? Come on, man. We know that. Okay, what about Ray Lewis? Did he impact the game? Of course. What about Prime? Okay, what about Prime? How was Prime

bringing? Why did you say that? Yeah. He couldn't impact the game, though, because, you know, they... Hold on now. Michael Pars he couldn't impact the game though hold on a minute Michael Parsons don't impact the game I'm just asking you there's been a lot of guys that impact the game

you do realize we ain't talking about no slouching no no but there's been a lot of guys that impact the game there's been guys that impact the game less but one more and got a bigger plan. That's all I'm saying.

This is the team game. I just wanted to remember that now. You mentioned Prime. Do you see what team Prime was playing for? Do you see what else was around him while he was doing what he was doing? Guess what? They went and got pride.

San Francisco said, you know what? We can't beat Dallas. We got to go get pride. They went and got pride. What did the Cowboys do? Go get him back. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

It ain't that complicated, Ocho. I'm just saying, look. I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you when you're right, but also we're in a different time right now. We are. I think the thing is, is that look, Michael wants to have a career after football.

And it seems to be he wants it to be on the media side. No problem whatsoever. And I think what he's doing, he's starting out because I had a radio show when I was in Denver. I think I started in 1996.

My guy Don Martin, I know you're watching the show. He was at iHeartRadio for a number of years. I don't know if Don's still there, but he was my producer. Don and I, we go way back. I really didn't know what I was going to do. But I'm like, hey, they're like, would you like to do a radio show? I was like, yeah, how much I'll pay you? Wasn't paying a whole lot of show, but it gave me an opportunity to talk.

When they asked me to, you know, come in to do the local news, I do that. And so I knew I could do something in the media. I was always very candid, very straightforward. But I don't think there was ever a doubt that anybody that had ever been with me asked my teammates. Football was at the

forefront. Anything that interfered with that wasn't going to happen. So my radio show was I would tape it after friday's practice go in there hit that thing for about 25 minutes right i'm done done right i'm done that's that's it for me uh it had been very interesting old show and people i've gotten asked this question if you were playing it today would you have a podcast i wouldn't i'm i'm too i i can't i have a singular focus i'm only i've only been good at a handful of things

right but not never never simultaneously that's why i'm not married. I was, I was, I was, either I was good at football and a terrible boyfriend. Either I was a great boyfriend, I would be terrible at football. So, guess which one I had to go. Hey, hey,

boy, boy, you talking now, you hear me? I'm just being, I'm just, I'm just, I just,

I just, I'm just honest, Ocho. I'm just honest. That's why, so, I have a singular focus. If you notice when I'm good at something, I'm great

at it because I'm all in. Ain't no hassle and gruddle. I don't save no breadcrumb for the trip home, Ocho. I'm lost. Right. I'm lost, Ocho. I ain't got no navigation on how to get back. All I know is one straight

ahead. We going that way. I'm how to get back. All I know is one straight ahead. We're going that way. I'm going to get people to be with me that believe in the vision, and we're going to go get it done. But that's just me, like I said. I think, see, the biggest mistake that we make

is that we try to see ourselves in other people. That's my biggest mistake. That's my biggest mistake. That's my biggest mistake. It is. And I'm going to, I got to talk. Because I think I can say, Ocho, honestly, I think I can save everybody. And, you know, hey, hey, man, can you do it?

Sure, no problem. Call Shelly. Hey, man, we got to call Shelly. And, you know, if 25 here is 50,000 there, it's 100,000 here. And Marvin, Marvin Delmar, who's my agent, and he's been my right-hand man for 29 years. Yes, sir. He said, you got to stop this. Yeah. he said you gotta stop this yeah he said

I understand he said I understand you better than most right I'm an 83 I think he's an 83 84 year old Jewish guy he said but I

I know you and he said but you gotta stop this Shannon he said you can't save everybody he said you got too big he said you got too got to stop this, Shannon. He said, you can't save everybody. He said, you got too big of a heart. Yeah, same. I learned that quick.

And most of the time, you know, I learned quick. No matter how much you do, sometimes they forget about it the first time you say no. Hey, man, I just... They forget about it. They forget about it all the time you say yes and that's mine always trying to say but feeling like i can come in and put my cape on oh i got you don't worry about it i got you and every time on the back end you end up regretting it every time. I, I, I don't regret it.

I mean, a lot of times I give, I give the charities, but a lot of times I give, I give, but like I said, I give, I give with,

I don't have any expectations. Right. Right. Right. Right. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. nothing and um shelly called me the other day and says uh i said what's up well you need to stop giving away so much money i said shelly you called out of the blue with that. She's like, yeah.

I said, okay. And then I don't know if she talked to Marvin or Marvin called her, but he had a conversation with me today. So I'm done. I can't help everybody, Ocho. I'm done trying. Yeah. I'm done.

I'm done I'm done because I don't have federal government capabilities I can't just print money to stimulate the economy I gotta make my money literally make my money old fashioned I can't go print it

I'm good I'm done. So don't ask. The answer is no. Moving forward, what's the date? It's the 20th. The date is 19, February 19th. Now it's the 20th.

Is the 20th where you are? If you're in the Eastern time zone, no. If you're in the Western, if you're in the Pacific time zone, no if you were in the Pacific time zone, in an hour and 40 minutes, the answer would be no and my phone would be off, so don't call me no, hell no

also the Cowboys overhauled their coaching staff this offseason, parting ways with Mike McCarthy and promoting O.C. Brian Schottenheimer the Cowboys hired Arizona Cardinals offensive line coach Clayton Adams for the open O.C. role. Here's what Adams wants to see in the offense. The same thing I want to see, the same thing I want from every player on offense,

and that is to create violence in the game. Be aggressive, run, hit. I think every decision that we make schematically needs to lean into that direction. So if there's a gray area, what is going to allow these guys to play more free and run and hit and be violent? Ocho, do you think the Cowboys will be able to create

a violent offense next year? I mean, violence always starts at the forefront, right up front. It starts in the trenches. That's where the violence needs to come from. That's where the violence needs to come from. That's where the violence needs to come from. It starts with the front five. They got to set the tone.

That's where it comes from. Everything else is built off what that offensive line does. So that's where it comes in at. So how is the offensive line going to be? Because everything he just reiterated everything he just said is not going to be possible unless

that offensive line is exactly like I'm just going to throw I'm just going to throw it out there like the Eagles like the Ravens you're right that's it

everything you want to do whatever you set your eyes to Like the Ravens. You're right. That's it. Everything you want to do, whatever you set your eyes to, whatever you come into the offseason or into the season saying you want to do offensively, it all starts with your offensive line. If you ain't got that, if they ain't got that mentality, it ain't happening.

Front to back, Ocho. You build front to back. O-line, back. D-line, back. Yeah. You say that, but that's a mentality. You got it,

but it's, I mean, I take my hat off to teams like the Eagles, who I don't know how much they hit, but they've taken a lot of the physicality out of it because you don't practice like that. We used to practice. We had 9-0-7.

We putting pads on people. Yeah, yeah. It's hard. You go out there and you do a walkthrough and all of a sudden, hey, turn it up. Turn what up? But it was a mindset.

Oh, you about to, hey, hey. To move a man against his will. Think about that, chat. Think about when you say, you say, hey, get off my porch. I ain't going nowhere. The hell you say? You finna leave here?

And you do that over and over, Ocho. You gotta make them quit. Somebody quit today. And that's exactly what happened by the time you get to the fourth quarter. They gonna quit. They gonna fold. I ain't quitting. Yeah, for sure.

I got to make you turn it down. Because, see, I know how you run. Okay. Because, you know, back when we played, Ocho, we rolled your ass up. We were cutting. And I know you're getting up quick in the first quarter. Yeah. Oh, Ocho, they get up quick.

Oh, yeah. They get up. Hey quarter yeah hey I'm still making the playoffs okay okay the second quarter Ocho hey I'm still here sharp third quarter man stay off my knees fourth quarter ain't nowhere to be seen

but you got the it's easy to a quarter, he ain't nowhere to be seen. But you got to it's easy to talk about something, Ocho. It's a lot more difficult to do it. Yeah, the coach can talk all he wants to. The coach can talk, he can talk until he turns blue in the face.

But unless you have the personnel and the players that have the mentality that you're regurgitating or the mentality that you talk about, man, you ain't talking about nothing. You ain't talking about nothing. What you have is what you have right now. You can say whatever you want. You know your team. You know your personnel.

So you got to be careful what you say and what you ask for. Because if they're not built like that, all of a sudden, just because you have an offseason, don't mean they're coming back completely different next year. You are who you are. You know, yeah, Zach Martin has been in wars, and he's been one of the premier guards. He's one of the best guards that have ever played this game. But he's got a lot of miles on that body, Ocho.

He's not the same guy. You know, Tyron Smith had a lot of miles on his body, Ocho. He's not the same guy. Tyron Smith had a lot of miles on his body. They let him go. Still, they started to suffer when Travis Frederick had to retire prematurely. And they got guys now,

they're not built like that. They're not built like that. They can't run the football. See, you know how you know you violent? when you can run the football yeah that's where violence come in at absolutely look at teams that can run the football

they're a violent group notice when I talked about offensive lines the first thing I said was the Eagles and I said Ravens everybody against they will when they play them. Detroit. And not changing nothing in regards to who they're playing.

Detroit is another one. Oh, yeah. Oh, I forgot. But they're suling them boys. They don't play. No. So I'm anxious to see what they do. I'm going to see if they're going to be able to run the football

Rico Dowdle is a free agent we're going to see what they're going to do in the running back position right well you know Zeke won't be back because they already let Zeke go so now do they go into the draft do they get Jenty I think they pick

12, 13. Will Jenty be available? That'd be a good one. What running back is going to be available? Aaron Jones with Minnesota. They pushed his date back. Okay. Could he become available?

It seems like they want to get something long-term done, get him a couple of years. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see what the Cowboys do at running back position in free agency will probably kind of give you an indication of kind of direction that they're going to go with in the draft. Also, A.J. Brown brought a life-size mannequin to put his unwashed Super Bowl jersey on display in their home. A.J.'s longtime girlfriend posted a picture on Instagram.

That's live. A part of you. Your boyfriend buys a 6'2 mannequin to put his Game 1 Super Bowl uniform on. He, indeed, did not wash it. Nope, you can't wash it. Nope, don't do that. That's live, man. That's dope.

That has to be one of the greatest feelings. And obviously, coming from someone who never won a Super Bowl, played in one, but never won one, that's something I would do. That's something I would do. And you savor that moment and to be able to have it in your house, man,

hanging up like that on the mannequin, full display, mouthpiece and all. You don't see the mouthpiece. He got the mouthpiece on the helmet and everything. Oh, yeah.

That's live, man. That's live. Well, I wouldn't have because I wouldn't have no mouthpiece. Huh? Where your Super Bowl stuff at? On the wall.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay. On the wall. That's dope. That's dope. But, uh, I don't know, somebody, because you know they make

you two jerseys. In Baltimore, they gave me both of my jerseys. Somebody got, somebody, got my 32 and 33 extra jersey right

hold on let me use the bathroom real quick I didn't drink too much water but I like that got the shoes and everything on the mannequin damn AJ I don't know what a pants You got the shoes and everything on the mannequin. Damn, AJ. I don't know where the pants are. I ain't finna lie and tell you about the pants.

I know I got the jersey. I gave the Super Bowl helmet. I think Daryl Green got my Super Bowl helmet. Because I traded with him. I'm almost certain Daryl Green got my Super Bowl helmet. I got my Super Bowl Ravens helmet. It's funny that I traded, I remember going to the Super Bowl, I went to the Pro Bowl. I traded

Pro Bowl helmets when I was with Denver. I traded Pro Bowl helmets with Jonathan Ogden. I got that original, I don't know if, Chad, who are Ravens fans, but y'all, it was like a wing or something, but it was,

it was kind of ugly. But J.O., I traded with J.O. He and I had the same agent. He was with Marvin Demoff as well. but yeah, I still got, obviously,

my jerseys are hanging up. I got one hell what I know for sure. I don't know about the up. I got one helmet, I know for sure. I don't know about the pants. I don't know what the pants are, hell. Nobody, I mean,

I mean, the thing was, it's like, the thing was the jersey, nobody even thought, the jersey and the helmet. Wasn't nobody thinking about no, no,

no pants. Yeah. Well, what about your cleats? Because you know, your cleats, sometimes your cleats can be a special pair.

You know, especially now. Don't start me to lie. Somebody got them. Yeah. I'm trying to think. Because like when I played, like my last couple of years, Nike made me

pant leather cleats. I remember the time, you know, you had to really be somebody to get a cleat. Yeah. Not everybody got a cleat. I remember times, you know, you had to really be somebody to get a cleat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not everybody got a cleat. Hey, who wore the greatest heat today?

I'm like, dude on special teams. He been telling me he got jobs? Right. How you run down on special teams and you got pant leather Jordans, Ocho? Hey, you look good. You look good. No. You're on a special team.

You get some three quarters and go out there and make a tackle. You don't need no low top cleat, patent leather. But I was playing the shoe and then I would practice in it and I ended up giving to a teammate. Where your Super Bowl jersey at?

At my grandma's house. At my grandma's house. At my grandma's house. My little brother, my little brother, he got most of my memorabilia. A very good friend of mine in Cincinnati, when I left Cincinnati,

he has most of my memorabilia. It's just, I don't know what's wrong with me. Once I stopped playing a game of football, I didn't really care about memorabilia. I don't really have anything. I don't know what's wrong with me. Once I stopped playing the game of football, I didn't really care about memorabilia. I don't really have anything. I don't have anything.

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