Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers Winning streak,Ty Lue calls Clippers "soft", Draymond's ejection

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Gilbert Arenas react to the Lakers winning their 5th game in the row, Ty Lue calling his team "soft" and Draymond Green getting ejected 4 minutes into the game. 0:00 Introduction5...:20 Lakers beat Grizzlies15:42 Clippers win over 76ers22:23 Draymond ejected31:35 Jamal Crawford says AD should be traded38:30 LeBron takes care of his body #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran-Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, welcome to another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite unk, Shannon Sharp. He's your favorite number zero. Arizona Wildcat legend. Wizard. Great.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Gilbert arenas. Mr. Habachi man himself. Please make sure you subscribe. Make sure you like hit that like button, hit that subscribe button. And please, please make sure you guys subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You can listen to us through the club. Shea, shea B, but we would greatly appreciate it. If you signed up through the Nightcap podcast feed. We've also pinned Chez by La Portia at the top of the chat. We're only taking pre-orders, but hopefully I think we should be able to fulfill all orders that have been placed. So thank you for selling, help selling us out. But we're taking pre-orders and we got a shipment in, so we should be able to fulfill those orders. Also, we would like for
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Starting point is 00:03:55 No Chill Gil. Let's go ahead and get Gil's subs up. Gil, I heard from a little birdie you got something in the mail today. You care to show what you got? Hey, man. Appreciate it, huh?
Starting point is 00:04:11 Oh, what? What? How you always get that so quick? I don't know. I don't know. You must have put my name on it. Oh, man. I don't know what happened to Ocho's.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Get it to me, huh? Man, that thing nice, that gear. Hey, hey. You know, I got the matching watch with it. All right, Ocho. I know Ocho in the chat gear. Gear, I don't know. I don't know what the mailman, maybe his GPS tracking is off.
Starting point is 00:04:42 But, you know, in today's time, the mailman walked now, so he might be walking from L.A. to Miami to bring Ocho's ears. Ocho still ain't got ears? Uh, I hope. Hey, Ocho, you got – Ray O must have hid his. Yeah, Ray O might be playing a prank on Ochoa or something because I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:05:09 That thing should have been there. It should have been there by now. Ochoa, man, bro, now you know I wouldn't do you like that, man. I put that thing in the mail like two weeks ago. Where he living at, Miami? Miami? Oh, yeah, they robbing boxes out there. Yeah, yeah. They robbing boxes out there.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah, yeah. So somebody might got a nightcap plaque on their wall, Ocho. They don't do that in my community. They make sure the boxes get to where they need to get to. Well, hey, Gil, I wanted you to just wanted to show my appreciation for you, and I wanted you to have that. I know you only do one day a week, but I'm grateful, and Ochoa and I are grateful that you decided to do the one day a week with us, and you're a very vital part of the Nightcap family.
Starting point is 00:05:55 So we wanted you to have that. Thank you. Enjoy it, and congratulations, bro. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Let's jump right into it, Gil. The Lakers beat the Grizzlies one 36 to one 24 without Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis logged 52 minutes last night. The most minutes he had ever played in his career. And they gave him the night off as an outstanding performance last night
Starting point is 00:06:18 and gaming, which he had 32 points, 23 rebounds and four blocks. So he was well deserving of a night off. In his absence, LeBron James, who missed last night game, was raring to go. He had a triple-double. The Lakers win their fifth game in a row, improved to 41-32. And without Anthony Davis, Roy was sensational. 32 points on 11 of 14 field goals, career high seven made threes 10 rebounds lebron james logged the triple double 23 points 14 rebounds 12 assists and two steals d-low 23 points torian
Starting point is 00:06:54 prince 15 points jackson hayes 14 points seven rebounds spencer denwiddie 14 points seven rebounds and austin reeves colby of the Ozarks, 13 points and 11 assists. Darvin Hamm said, Anthony Davis status for Friday. We'll see how he's feeling tomorrow when he wakes up. That was a really big win. This game here, if you lose this game, last night goes away.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's all for naught. You can't beat Milwaukee, the number two team in the East, with their full roster and then turn out and turn around and lose to the Grizzlies. So I'm glad they came out with the right mindset, with the right intensity, and was able to pull this game out. But what
Starting point is 00:07:36 did you like about what you saw from the Lakers in this game when they got the win, 136 to 124? I mean, this is one of those games where, you're right, there was no... They shouldn't have lost this game. These are one of the games that's really important
Starting point is 00:07:53 to the road trip. You can't start the road trip off with a loss against one of the weakest teams right now in the West. This was a great, great win. It really shows that games that they need to win against weaker
Starting point is 00:08:09 opponents, they do step up to the challenge. I mean, the end of that third did look rough. It looked rough. It looked like one of those games where you're up 18 and then end up somehow losing that game. But they came out in the fourth, hit two quick threes,
Starting point is 00:08:25 and just kept that lead going. So it was great to see these guys bounce back after that devastating end of third quarter. You know what, Gil? I was thinking, and this is what's so frustrating about the Lakers. Now think about this. They beat the Boston Celtics. They went to Boston and beat the Celtics without LeBron.
Starting point is 00:08:47 They beat Milwaukee twice without LeBron. This is what makes you upset, but it's also what gives you hope because you know they can beat anybody in a series. I don't think they can beat the Nuggets, but they can beat anybody else in the West
Starting point is 00:09:04 in a seven-game series because we watched them go on the road and beat Boston without LeBron. We watched them go on the road and beat Milwaukee without LeBron, beat Milwaukee in L.A. without LeBron. I just – and I think the thing is you look at Anthony Davis. He's played the lion's share of the games this year. You cannot – look, there have been a few games here and there. But with his overall performance, you have to be pleased.
Starting point is 00:09:31 If you're a Laker fan, you have to be pleased with what Anthony Davis is giving you. He's giving you about 25 points, about 12 and a half, 13 rebounds on a nightly basis. Give you somewhere between two and three blocks on a night. So you can't be disappointed. Yeah, I know a game here and there. He had 10 points and two rebounds. Yeah, I get that. But overall, his complete body of work deal, you have to be pleased with what you saw.
Starting point is 00:09:55 LeBron has been LeBron. LeBron is LeBron. He's shooting 50-plus percent from the floor, giving you 25 on the nightly bases, seven and eight. But what is it? You see this like, bro, y'all realize y'all beat Boston? Y'all realize y'all beat Milwaukee twice?
Starting point is 00:10:12 How you lose to teams that bottom feed? You know what happens? And I don't know if it happens in football, but the media does it a lot with us. When a team wins without their star player, they always throw that narrative, they're better without them, right? Yeah! What happens is this.
Starting point is 00:10:33 There are certain players that respect the guy so much that when he's in the lineup, they're docile right so you know when when i see it a lot with with dilo when lebron is not there he knows 100 he has the the game under control he gets to play free basketball when lebron is on the court he's looking for lebron the whole time what is lebron doing is he is he clapping for the ball any noise that goes he's looking to seeBron the whole time. What is LeBron doing? Is he clapping for the ball? Any noise that goes, he's looking to see if LeBron does one of those. So it's just one of those second natures that happen with players. It's like the fanboy in them.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It's like when you play with Kobe, right? Okay, Kobe hasn't shot the ball in two times. Where's he at? Instead of you just playing your game and letting the star player find his way, you know, those players lose themselves when LeBron is on the court. Has nothing to do with LeBron. It's just, it's a personal thing for themselves.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Right. Because we look at D-Lo when they play Milwaukee at home, D-Lo goes for 44, incomplete control, making three, boom, boom, boom. Last night, he was sensational last night. And you remember, Gil, in the play-in tournament. Was it play? No.
Starting point is 00:11:53 No, it was they played the Warriors last year. And he come down, the Lakers had this nice lead, and he comes down and turned the ball over like three times in a row, and all of a sudden, Golden State is making a comeback. And without hesitation, he comes down on a one-on-four and lets a three-goal get the game back. I'm like, bro, you just played like two minutes of the worst basketball in the history of the NBA,
Starting point is 00:12:16 and then you come down with ice. I'm talking about freezing water in your veins and let a three-goal with a one-on-three. And usually he would have been subbed out by then with the three turnovers and it would have ruined his mental. They couldn't. They couldn't get him out again. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:12:31 He would have been, get on up out of here. But the fact that he did take that three kind of lets you know mentally where he's at. Yes. We just needed more. We need the relentless. We need the ice vein D-load, you knowelo when we come to the playoffs. And so far we haven't had that guy against Denver.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Right. I think the thing is, Gil, I think once the trade deadline came and went, he was able to relax because he's been sensational. This might be the best stretch of basketball other than the year that he went to
Starting point is 00:13:04 the All-Star game when he was in Brooklyn. This might be the best stretch of basketball other than the year that he went to the All-Star game when he was in Brooklyn. This might be the best stretch of basketball that he's played. And he's a good player. I mean, there's something about them left-handed guys, man. They got that herky-jerky, man. I mean, they start, stop, and they smooth with it. They got the float game going. I mean, he's been unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yeah, him and AD pick and roll is phenomenal. Yes. going. I mean, he's been unbelievable. What's so funny is him and AD pick and roll is phenomenal. Yes. And that's why I said last week if I'm playing against moving into the playoffs, I want Anthony Davis and
Starting point is 00:13:39 D'Lo to play like Murray and Jokic and let LeBron find a way on how to be dominant. Right. You know, the Anthony Davis, LeBron pick and roll, that ain't the style right now. Right. That ain't it right now.
Starting point is 00:13:54 So you need that guy who can probe and do all that and find people. So I'm liking where D'Lo is right now. Yeah, I think they have seven or eight guys in double figures. Rui, LeBron, D'Lo, Prince, Hayes, then Reed. So they had seven guys. All the guys that played at least 10 minutes, Gil, had double figure points. Yeah, all the good
Starting point is 00:14:14 players. Everybody who don't supposed to be playing didn't score like should be. But you look at Jackson Hayes gave him quality minutes tonight. Torian Prince played really, really well. Dinwiddie came up. Dinwiddie, he's been getting it going lately.
Starting point is 00:14:32 He's been getting it going. And I like to see that. Yeah, he's found his way. We're really going to need him in the playoffs to be the one-on-one guy who can create offense. You know, when there's basically a stalemate against that defense you know when they're cutting cutting players off you know when they're focusing on when they're focusing on ad you know reese can't get it on we we have a guy
Starting point is 00:14:56 who can create one-on-one um mismatch problem so you know i did like that pickup by them yeah and he's he's played well he's played well this was a very good win um for the lakers they followed it up uh they consolidated in the tennis they say when you break a suit when you break serve can you consolidate it on your own serve can you win that game on your serve now you've done something now you go two games up as opposed to losing the serve after you just broke serve so they were able to consolidate this win, win a big game against Milwaukee on the road, go on the road again.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Actually, it was a back-to-back. It was a back-to-back, yeah. And think about all the minutes that Reeves played, all the minutes that Dinwiddie played, all the minutes that D'Lo played, ruined, and they were still able to come back and give you a great effort tonight. I like what I'm seeing for the Lakers. We'll see if they can flip the switch.
Starting point is 00:15:48 They get a night off, get some rest, get some food in them. And let's see if they can follow it up, get five in a row Friday night. No, no. Yeah. Listen, this is one of those stretches where this is a favorable schedule for us, you know, towards the end of the season. You know, we have some winnable games and even some of the tough teams, they might be resting players at that moment in time.
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Starting point is 00:18:23 Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafok, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane,
Starting point is 00:19:19 I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Clippers beat the 76ers 108-107. The Clippers-Sixippers ending was wild. Clippers hold on for the win. Sixers coach Nick Nurse and Kelly Oubre was furious that a no foul
Starting point is 00:19:52 was called on the final possession. Kelly Oubre called a referee female dog, and he's about to get a hefty fine for that choice of words. Ty Luke called the Clippers soft after that demolition job that they got.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Who did that beat them? Indy. Indy beat the Brakes off them the other night. Let's listen to the sound of what he had to say last night and then you and I get into the game tonight.
Starting point is 00:20:17 So, identity, you know, for us, it's got to be toughness, which means physicality, mentally and physical toughness. But high-powered offense, we can score a lot of different ways. And we got to have a defensive mindset. And so right now, do we have an identity? I think, yeah, we're soft.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I could be an identity, if you want to call it that. Ouch. The game tonight, it seemed like the Sixers had the game, and then Kawhi makes two outstanding plays on back-to-back possessions, and then they make key defensive stops down the stretch. What did you like about what you saw from the Clippers, and what did the Sixers do wrong, let's just say the final minute and a half of this ballgame.
Starting point is 00:21:06 What I like about the Clippers, nothing. They're the flippies. This war is forever, right? They're up and down right now. I know they're still, which was weird. They're probably trying to find their playoff swag, trying to figure out, you know, who's going to be in that seven, eight man rotation,
Starting point is 00:21:27 uh, going into the playoffs because, you know, this is when you find out who's who and who are you going to take with you, you know, that first round. So, right.
Starting point is 00:21:37 You know, I'm pretty sure for Ty Lou, they're not being as assertive as he, as he would like in this moment. I'm, but I'm not really worried about them in the sense that Kawhi is going to turn it on, PG is going to turn
Starting point is 00:21:52 it on, Russ is going to be mentally there, James Harden is going to do what James Harden does. So they're going to be one of those teams that you don't want to see because you don't know what they're going to bring. Philly's missing their best player, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Oh, that game's not even close with Joel Embiid. Yeah, but when you're missing your best player, you know, players are trying to get calls that you haven't earned, right? Oof, you're Oubre. That's not a call. You're not getting that call in the club. You're not getting that call. So club. You're not getting that call. So, you know, it does get
Starting point is 00:22:27 frustrating when you don't have your MVP, your all-star, your all-NBA player, the best player in the league, on that court to actually demand those type of calls. So, you know, Philly did whatever Philly could do. They had the game, and they just didn't
Starting point is 00:22:43 make the... They didn't get the love that they needed to pull that win out. Yeah, they thought they'd get some more calls at home. The thing with Kelly Oubre, I don't understand. You're up by two.
Starting point is 00:22:53 So if Kawhi Leonard lays the ball up, you're still tied. Yeah. Why would you run the risk of fouling him and what, and now you're down?
Starting point is 00:23:01 Dude, guys, let me ask you a question, Gil. Let's, I know I'm thinking about that as third down, blah, blah, blah. What's more important? Instead of getting an extra four yards, let me get out of bounds and save
Starting point is 00:23:13 time on the clock. I was thinking in those situations. I'm picking and choosing my battles. Sometimes you have to know when the journey's over. I'm thinking like, bro, what are you doing? Why would you file up by two
Starting point is 00:23:29 and run the risk of giving up an and one? Sometimes players are not in there in real time. Sometimes players don't have no court awareness. They don't know what the time says or what the
Starting point is 00:23:46 score is. I think Clay did it. Was it Clay that did it about a month ago? He fouled in the back court. He fouled in the back court and they're like, what are you doing? Sometimes you're just not there. You do. You're just playing, not realizing. You might
Starting point is 00:24:02 think that you're down one when it's tie game or you're up two. You know, sometimes that does happen in games. When you really don't, you forgot to look up there to, you know, to see what it is. LeBron and them in the finals where they got the offensive rebound. Oh, man. Oh, you talk about JR. Yeah, but you blame everyone.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And the reason you blame everyone is JR understood, let's get that rebound, let's get that rebound. No one thought about the concept of if we actually do get this rebound, call a timeout. So the fact that none of the coaches even thought about calling a timeout, meaning they didn't even think he was going to get that rebound, and he got it.
Starting point is 00:24:42 How about putting the ball back in the basket? Listen, sometimes your job is, alright, look, get that offensive rebound, alright? We're going to get the offensive rebound. That's all you're thinking about. Let me get it. You're like, oh, I got it. Yes, I got it.
Starting point is 00:24:58 They're like, yo, put the ball up. Oh, my bad. I think the thing was he thought they were up one when in actuality they were tied. Yeah. So he thought, I brought it at the clock,
Starting point is 00:25:12 y'all can't get it. Like, it didn't even dawn on him, man, they're not chasing me trying to foul. Yeah. It wasn't until LeBron was yelling at him is that he's like,
Starting point is 00:25:21 what? What? What? But that's... What? Things like that happen. You know what but but that's what some things like that happen you know it's just one of those things it's it's part of the game right uh you know i mean probably they just won one game they just won one instead of i said they just won one game instead of getting swept they lost in five yeah that was it it was james harden first game back uh since being traded he was booed by the philly crowd no surprise with that um i'm trying to think of the guy that could leave and come back and get
Starting point is 00:25:54 cheered maybe charles barkley i don't remember when charles went back with the sons i don't know i don't really know ai i think ai got i think ai got cheered. AI got cheered because, you know, AI got traded. Everybody else was supposed to. Like, Charles Barkley demanded out. So, yeah, we will have to see, you know, what happens. Yeah, we'd have to go back and see the first game, yeah. Draymond Green was ejected again. We have video of the ejection of Steph's reaction.
Starting point is 00:26:22 He was not happy. Let's take a listen to the Steph sound after the game. What did you think of the Draymond ejection? All I said, we need him. He knows that. We all know that. So whatever it takes to keep him on the floor, he'll be available.
Starting point is 00:26:46 That's what's got to happen. Why do we keep having this conversation? Draymond said back in 2016, he had learned his lesson because he cost his team an NBA championship. Yes. You're no longer going to have to worry about Draymond. And he potentially cost himself
Starting point is 00:27:08 a Finals MVP. He didn't clothesline nobody this time. Last night or the other night, almost. This one, I don't put on him. I put him more on the ref. Here's why. He has nothing to do with this play.
Starting point is 00:27:25 So why is he talking? This was Paulo this one. Here's why. He has nothing to do with this play, right? So why is he talking? This was Paulo throwing his shoulder, so he's asking the ref, hey, what about the shoulder? So he's trying to get answers. This is a one-on-one conversation. So it's not like he's yelling at the ref loud, right? Yeah. Whatever he's
Starting point is 00:27:42 saying, it's him and the referee. So the referee. So the referee giving him a technical, you can't use that he was upstaging me at this point. So no matter what he's saying to you, it's private. You decide to give him a technical.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Right? That's the one I don't like. Because when we do this, right here, you see this right here? Oh, you best believe it's going down under that shirt. Right? But refs don't usually give that technical because you're not making them look stupid in front of the world.
Starting point is 00:28:14 So him getting that tech by the ref, it was like, ah, come on, ref. You didn't need to do that. And then that's what happens. He's asking, why are you giving me, what did I do? What did I say for you to do that? What was the point of that? And then when he's walking away, you know, he hit him with the BSN.
Starting point is 00:28:32 All right? Hit him with the BSN. But here's the thing, though, Gil. Why would Draymond, he's their worst negotiator. Facts. Disappointed negotiator. Fast. Do you realize, Gil, do you realize if the officials, if any other player was in the official's face yelling like Draymond, they would get tossed on a nightly basis. He knows that he's going to get a little leeway because they're going to give
Starting point is 00:28:59 that this is just Draymond. But I don't get their fight. Now, maybe they don't want to go to the playoffs. I can see them losing a couple more games and Steve Kerr shutting Steph Curry down for the rest of the year. I can see it. I can totally see that happening. I believe if the Rockets ever catch them,
Starting point is 00:29:20 and I don't know when we came on, Williams hit a three to send the game into overtime. And last I saw, I thought the Rockets were up a couple of games, so they might be a half game back, or they might be a full game and a half back. But I don't know what the end of that game,
Starting point is 00:29:37 what it did. Did the Rockets hold on and win? Okay. So now the Rockets have won 10 straight in overtime, and they're only one game behind the Wizards for the 10th spot. Excuse me, one game behind the Warriors for the 10th spot. I can see a scenario that if the Rockets catch the Warriors for that 10th spot, they're not going to fight for it. They're like,
Starting point is 00:30:05 okay, hey, Steph, you're done. Let's get a look at Kaminga. Let's get a look at Moody and some of these other guys. Yeah, there's this team needs to build confidence for next year. I don't see
Starting point is 00:30:21 anything. I don't see a reason to keep forcing your stars to play right now. I would have that conversation with Steph of what do you want to do? If I'm going to keep Clay, we're going to pay Clay. I need to make sure his mental is right for next year. So I need him to go out there and play. I need Kaminga to go out there and do what Kaminga does.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Moody, all the young guys that I'm possibly going to need for next year. This is the time where I need them to gain some ground. But this is the NBA. You start doing that, they're going to start, you know, investigating, you know, tampering with the record and stuff. So there's rules. There's rules right now. Look, Draymond, when it comes to the overall functionality
Starting point is 00:31:19 of the team, he's the most important part. And he makes all the pieces work together. So, yeah, you know, when Steph say we need him, he's right. You know, yeah, you can't get ejected four minutes into the game, Gil. Damn. But you don't expect the refs to be this sensitive four minutes into the game, though.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Like, come on. Like, that's four minutes into the game. You already giving out texts. But here's the thing. He's not asking, hey, Mr. Ralph. Now, you see he's highly agitated. There's a difference. Hey, it's one way to aim.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Hey, but man, check this out. The pump three, it took my credit card, and I wasn't able to pump the gas. That's different than going to, hey, both folks, that pump three, they ate my credit card. Now, what y'all going to do about it? That's different than going to, hey, bofo, that pump three, they ate my credit card. Now what y'all going to do about it? That's Draymond. Draymond said, hey,
Starting point is 00:32:11 what about his shoulder into my chest? What about that? You ain't call that, but you call that ticky-tack BS right there. It's definitely like Draymond. Draymond, come on, Dray. Not right now. It's the value.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Listen, I've always been taught, you know, by coaches, Come on, Drake. Not right now. I've always been taught by coaches, don't worry about the volume of the tone. Try to figure out what I'm saying. Because in the heat of the moment, my volume is going to go higher than I would like it to. Right. Understand what I'm trying to say before you react.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Same thing with a referee, right? I think referees, like I really have this thing against referees because you have too much power and you're using it too often, right? You're supposed to have the thickest skin because you're just repping the game. You don't even have to be a basketball fan. You don't need to have a favorite team to ref these games. So you should never be in tech mode or get so heated in the moment that you need to kick people out. Gil, at the end of the day, he human. Humans have feelings.
Starting point is 00:33:23 They have emotions. It's just like you. Your girl would come home and say, hey, Gil, how was your day? Where you been? As opposed to, hey, where the fuck where you been, Gil? It's all about them. She's asking you the same thing. One, you're more like,
Starting point is 00:33:37 one, you're more likely to say, well, we had practice. After practice, I stopped by the guy. We played some Nintendo's. then i came home she asked you where the f you been you go like you gonna elevate your toe right back at her so the official like bro hold on whoa it's too early it's it's like early in the morning i i ain't trying to have that conversation at seven o'clock i just just woke up and you yelling and screaming, talking about why my phone going off or who calling
Starting point is 00:34:07 you this early in the morning. I don't know because I was asleep. How the hell you expect me to answer that question? I guarantee this ref who gave it is one or three years into the league. I've been there where the game started and I'm already on one
Starting point is 00:34:23 and the ref was like, yo, it's two minutes into the game. Shut up. And I have to look up like, oh, it is two minutes into the game. All right, I'll see you in the third quarter then. God damn it. But that's the dialogue too. Like just sometimes we just too many Red Bulls to start the game off. Do you think the Rockets will catch the Warriors
Starting point is 00:34:45 for the last player spot in the West? They, you know, they playing well, man. Them young boys getting it. They playing well. They don't, they're missing, they're missing the player. They could get it, right? You know, I don't want to put nothing past them.
Starting point is 00:35:06 They playing well, they got nothing to lose. And I think if it's going down to those last games, it'd be more pressure on Golden State to get that 10th spot than the Rockets. Right. So. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles, So. front of you. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle. This is the thing that's in front of me. You can't make that mountain move without actually diving
Starting point is 00:35:53 into that. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, a time to conquer the things that once felt impossible and step boldly into the best version of yourself to awaken the unstoppable strength that's inside of us all. So tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and climb your personal mountain. Because it's impossible for you to be the most authentic you. It's impossible for you to love you fully if all you're doing is living to please people. Your mountain is that. Listen to Made for This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.
Starting point is 00:36:39 In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:37:36 In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions in just a second. I'm going to ask... I'm Leon Nafak, co-creator of Slow Burn.
Starting point is 00:38:03 In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran- Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Gil, it's time for our next segment of the night, and it's called a news cap. News. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Jamal Crawford thanks the Lakers to trade Anthony Davis. Let's take a listen to what Jamal had to say. Here we go. We need to break up a roster. Which team could benefit the most from breaking up the roster, the Lakers or the Warriors? I'm going to choose Lakers because Golden State have been there and done that. LeBron is trying to add some more to his legacy, so I'm going to help him out.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Got to get rid of Reeves. Give me another guy that can do that, but a guy that's a little more consistent. I'm not saying Reeves is inconsistent, but when you're playing and winning for a championship, you can have no inconsistency. I'm going to I'm not saying Reeves is inconsistent, but when you're playing and winning for a championship, you can have no inconsistency. I'm going to use Reeves because Reeves is a talent. I'm going to get me one more veteran, and I got to get three or four shooters. I'm with Shaq.
Starting point is 00:39:32 They don't have enough to even compete right now. And my thing is, if LeBron's still your best player at this point, I'm looking at trading Anthony Davis. Oh, no. I'm not trading that dude. I'm just telling you, you can get four or five pieces to go with him that fit LeBron if LeBron's still going to be the best player. But really, if I can get a Kyrie Irving type, they need another wing, a dominant wing scorer.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Yeah, I'll try to. Okay, so are you going to trade? Oh, so I'll trade Anthony Davis to Boston for, can we get Przingas and Jason Tatum? I mean, what wing players you going to get for Anthony? Who's going to trade what wing players that win right now that you can put with Anthony Davis that a team's going to give up? Jason Tatum, has anybody given up?
Starting point is 00:40:20 You think Boston's giving up Jason Tatum? No. There's a reason certain people can't be GMs. And those... Woo! Woo! Boy, it started off with Shaq, right? Like, even his. You're going to give up Austin Reeves to get somebody more consistent?
Starting point is 00:40:44 Then Austin Reeves, at Austin Reeves' price? He's $53 million. Who are you going to get rid of to get somebody more consistent than Austin Reeves? The last 21 games, he's 10 more points or plus. He's been double-digit scoring for the last 21 games. See, that's that TNT ESPN. He ain't watching the games. He's looking at the box score.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Like, there's like, if you want to trade Austin Reeves, this is who he's compared to at the same price. Talon, Horton, Tucker. No, we already
Starting point is 00:41:24 got rid of him. Joe Ingles, Dennis Schroeder, Marvin Bagley, Gary Harris, Josh Harper. They all make the same amount of money. Who are you going to trade them for then, Shaquille O'Neal? Nobody. Yeah. See, here's the thing. When they propose these trades, okay, who are you trading him to
Starting point is 00:41:46 and what are you trading him for? It's easy to say, and that's what we used to have like, such and such should have made the Pro Bowl or such and such should have made the All-Star game. Okay, if you put somebody in, you've got to take somebody off. Well, I say, well, you can't put him in.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I say, because if you put somebody in, you're telling me somebody that made it shouldn't have made it in front of him. So you're saying he should have made it. Who are you taking off? Okay, you're trading off the read. So that's what I want to say. If you're going to trade somebody, you got to tell me who you're trading him to
Starting point is 00:42:19 and who are you trading him for. Because just to say, oh, I would trade Anthony Davis. For who? For what? For where? I'm going to trade Anthony Davis to get back, what, you said for Kyrie? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Give Dallas goddamn Anthony Davis and him and Luka shit.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Right? So now you're going to put Anthony Davis with Luka, the master of the pick and roll. That's what you're going to do? Yeah, but that's why, you know, that's why with Luka, the master of the pick and roll. That's what you're going to do? Yeah, but that's why, you know, that's why, you know, it's easy. Like, there's no concept of the thought. It's not like they put thought into it. They just ramble. Like, I'm going to get rid of a shooter, a point guard, a scorer,
Starting point is 00:42:58 to get back shooters, veteran players. Who? What team giving up shooters? No one. The answer was Golden State. Golden State is at a problem where Steph is still playing at a very high level. Yes. The help is not playing very well right now.
Starting point is 00:43:23 So they need to make some real decisions on what they're going to do are they going to try to go for another title and trade some pieces or they're going to break this team up let Steph retire and and just play his last days you're scoring a whole bunch of points that's the real answer right right there right when it comes to like as long as you got Anthony Davis and LeBron James for the most part you have a chance you know you you have a chance you still got two dominant players you got one guy offensively and defensively how are you going to match that when you say yes Anthony Davis who are you getting back that's playing Giannis. Okay, I'll trade AD for Giannis.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I'll trade AD for maybe a Joel. Because those are the only comparable guys that are offensive and defensive guys that are giving you what Anthony Davis gives you on a nightly basis. Now, we know Giannis is 30 and 11 and two or three blocks. We know Joel Embiid, he's hurt. But Joel Embiid was giving you 35, 11, and two.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Those are the only comparable guys. So who's giving you that kind of production like Anthony Davis is giving you on a nightly basis with that kind of defensive presence? Who? If I'm going to lose a little bit of defense, I'll gain a little bit more offense, so I'll make a trade for some bonus
Starting point is 00:44:47 because I get more passing, but I don't think Sacramento's going to do anything like that. That's why I said they just throw out shit. Right. But, okay, we got more passers. Who we going to pass it to? Ain't like we got a 15-step Curry that they're knocking it down or Young Clay.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I mean, have we shot the three ball better since the All-Star break? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. We've been shooting the cover off the ball. But come on now. AD? Yeah, that's what I said. But it was just two bad takes. That's all it was. It's...
Starting point is 00:45:20 Can't blame... Hold on. LeBron doesn't look like a player in his 21st season in the NBA. He's out there on the court, but that doesn't mean he doesn't feel it after the game. On his Mind the Game podcast, LeBron Bill, the analogy he used when talking to his wife, Savannah James, his wife, asked him how he felt after the game. Let's take a listen to how LeBron answered her. I was explaining to my wife the other day. She asked me, how am I feeling?
Starting point is 00:45:50 When I came home after the game, I said, babe, just imagine buying a 2003 Escalade and it's 2024, and you never change the tires so rub my feet please bros and the dog the dog babe the dog barking hey can you can you rub them down can you ice them down for me because if these these things hurt And I can understand because those feet have carried him for 23
Starting point is 00:46:26 seasons, as you mentioned. Up, down, start, stop, sprinting. Yeah, yeah. I can just imagine. Man, I know how, Gil, I know how I feel after I sit down for a period of time. So can you imagine
Starting point is 00:46:41 he's still playing 35, 36 minutes on a nightly basis in year 21 39 years of age you people like 35 minutes that's nothing but we've never seen anybody at that age that's asked to do what he's been asked to do play look at all the guys if you have average of all the guys that's ever played 21 seasons or more LeBron James has scored more points than all of them combined. Yeah, not serious. In a season. So, what do you
Starting point is 00:47:12 think about what LeBron had to say? I'm sure. I'm sure that, you know, that he is sore, right? But I noticed something way back when he was younger. There was always this thing about icing. Young players, yes, but what you icing for a young fella?
Starting point is 00:47:35 You ain't even played long. At 19, 20 years old, he was nice on all his limbs. He had his feet. In the bucket. Knees, elbows, like back. Which players the 2025, we wasn't icing like that, right?
Starting point is 00:47:53 So the fact that he has been in the same routine you can see why he has longevity. But for the most part, he is the last one out of the arena because he's going to ice. He's going to stretch down.
Starting point is 00:48:09 He's probably going to get a massage. Go get a workout. And then go home, right? These players are really taking care of their body. I'm not going to lie. I remember when Carmelo came into our locker room. We're playing Denver. He comes into the locker room
Starting point is 00:48:31 and he's like, he needs to use the ice tub. I'm like, oh, he ain't playing. Right? And he goes in the ice tub. And I was like, you ain't playing today? He was like, yeah. I'm like, what you in the ice tub for? He says, to make my legs
Starting point is 00:48:48 feel lighter. He said, all the traveling and the stuff, you know, he said, all the blood is flowing down and makes my legs. So I use the ice and then I let them thaw out naturally. He said, I don't go in the heat because the blood travels to where
Starting point is 00:49:03 the heat is. And I didn't know that. After I see Melo do it I started doing that right and it's just you start picking up these little tricks from players you know Melo's younger so someone taught him that then I started doing it and then started really taking stretching serious um so you know these guys are really taking care of their body a lot longer, right? You're looking at KD at his age, look how he's playing. Steph at his age, look how he's playing. So, you know, they're looking better than
Starting point is 00:49:34 the previous era. We're just talking about the 2010s. You know, the fives and stuff. Look how they look. Even somebody like Chris Paul. We're not even realizing Chris Paul is old as hell. And he's still out there moving at a high rate still.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Yeah, I remember when I first got into the league and I saw all the old guys getting in the cold tub. I said, man, what the hell y'all doing? They's like, oh, don't worry about it, Sean. You'll be here one day. I'm like, man, please. Yep, I sure was. It didn't take me long. So I started icing before practice, after practice.
Starting point is 00:50:09 What we did, Gil, we did what we call contrast. We get in the cold tub for a minute before the game. Cold tub, hot tub, cold tub, hot tub, cold tub, hot tub, shower. Hey, that blood really circulating. We ready to go. But you're absolutely right. Once you understand, because when you know better, you blood really circulating. We ready to go. But you're absolutely right. Once you understand, because when you know better, you can do better.
Starting point is 00:50:29 And so now all the guys that's coming, all you got to do is look at the guys that's still playing at a high level, look at what they're doing to maintain this, but get the talent, because you might not be as talented, but obviously you're in the league, so you are talented,
Starting point is 00:50:43 but how can I maximize my time in the league so you are talented but how can i maximize my time in the league how could i cut down on the injuries while i'm in the league and you look at guys and that's you know um that cold that those ice in your knees and i've been in the cold tub and taking care of your body getting massages doing pilates taking yoga doing the way you eat. I was, I brought, I started the trend because I started bringing my food to work back in 93. And people like, man, what you? Because I said that those people, they cooking for a hundred people.
Starting point is 00:51:15 They putting salt and all that. I say, I know what's in here. I know how much protein, how much carbohydrate, how much salt. I know all the, the magnesium. I know everything that's in that food. See, they feeding a hundred,
Starting point is 00:51:27 I'm eating for one. Did your brother teach you that? Nope. I was, I always had a mentality of a bodybuilder. Gil, I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:34 my first three years, I ate fast food every meal, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I mean, I stopped by,
Starting point is 00:51:41 I get, I get sausage biscuits or I go by Burger King, I get them, I get the French toast sticks. I mean, then stopped by, I get sausage biscuits or I go by Burger King. I get them French toast sticks. I mean, then I go get McDonald's or I get Kentucky Fried Chicken. I was eating just, and I was just like, man, everybody was looking like, man, damn, Sean, you eat like that? Man, you see how you built? I had like 7%, 8% body fat.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And somebody, I had a cousin that was a bodybuilder. He said, cuz, you ought to just like, for like a month, eat healthy and see what you can look like. I said, God, I was hooked.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I mean, I mean, I mean, 7% body fat, I went down to like five. Oh man, okay. So,
Starting point is 00:52:22 and I've always, I've always been, people like, when'd you start? I've always been like this. I've always i've always been people like when you start i've always been like this i've always had this body it was just thinner you know i was 180 pounds but i was chiseled and even as i got to 205 215 225 i was still chiseled even as i got to 232 45 i walk around now i'm heavy now probably 250 255 which is i I'm going to get my black ass back down to like 240. That's too heavy. I'm carrying too much muscle.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I don't need to carry muscle like that. But I felt better. And see, people don't realize I played the lion's share of my career at 228 pounds as a wide receiver playing tight end. Okay, okay. So Calvin Johnson and Julio Jones and Brandon Marshall and all those guys
Starting point is 00:53:09 weighed more than I did. And they played Terrell Owen. And they played wide receivers. They weighed more than I did. But you got to have a mindset to be out there to bang, though, Gil. You got to have a mindset. They're going to win something,
Starting point is 00:53:26 but you ain't going to whip my ass all day. I'm going to get me some of these. I'm going to get some lickbacks. I just want y'all to know, I'm going to get my lickback. I'm going to get a lick here and there. Y'all can win y'all's shit, but I'm going to tell y'all linebackers and safeties to have something when they go out on your pass route. Yeah, like for people to understand, like a LeBron James right now, a Kevin Durant, a Curry.
Starting point is 00:53:45 We all take our cars to get them serviced at 3,000 miles. LeBron and Katie and them, they're probably getting their car serviced at 1,500 miles or 1,000 miles. They're not waiting 3,000, 4,000, 5,000. Most of us, I just got, listen, I just got my car oil changed, and I was 1,500 miles over the 3,000 miles. Oh, I got a change at 4,500 miles, right? And that's how I was with my body. I'm waiting until I'm hurting, hurting before I go to it. These guys are not even getting to that point, right?
Starting point is 00:54:24 They're getting to the engine light about to turn and then they're filling it up. They're not letting their gas tank go past empty. Someone told me that about a car. He said never let your engine go to the empty because the stuff that sits at the bottom
Starting point is 00:54:40 of the gas tank, that kind of messes up your stuff. So always don't let it go past, you know, the 25% before you fill it up. Always keep that high octane. Never get to the end where it's running. He said, never let your engine run on that.
Starting point is 00:54:56 He said, hey, treat it like a race car. You got a pit stop. Hey, you know what I'm saying? I'm going 70 miles and I'm going to get a new set of tires. I'm going to get some gas. I'm going to have a guy clean the window. I'm going to have to do all that.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I ain't going to wait until, hey, when something's going, hey, nope. I got a pit stop. I'm going to do all that. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core.
Starting point is 00:55:40 There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair.
Starting point is 00:56:16 The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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