Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lamar for MVP, Chiefs #1 seed, Pete Carroll comeback?

Episode Date: December 26, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry and the Baltimore Ravens putting the beatdown on C.J. Stroud and the Houston Texans 31-2 on Christmas Day. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs clinching the AFC's top playoff seed after beating Russell Wilson and the Pittsburgh Steelers 29-10, Pete Carroll expressing interest in the Chicago Bears' head coaching job and would like to return to the sideline next season and much more!03:13 - Show Start03:30 - Intro05:42 - Ravens v Texans41:00 - Chiefs v Steelers52:18 - OL gifts from Russell Wilson55:44 - Pete Carroll eyeing head coach job in Chicago(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He completed 10 of those for 168 yards, two touchdowns while rushing for 87 yards on four carries, including a 48-yard touchdown run. Derrick Henry, 148 rush yards, 27 carries, and a touchdown. He had 86 yards in the first carry. And so he also set a single-season total touchdown record as far as running backs and receivers. Everybody, he had 16 total touchdowns,

and he broke the record that he shared with Ray Rice. But the Ravens look really, really good today. They look dominant on both sides of the football, and that's what you want to see heading into the playoffs. As the season winds down, you want to start playing some of your best football, and the Baltimore Ravens are doing that. Well, this is what I have a question for you now.

Now, based on what we saw from Lamar Jackson today, Derrick Henry showed the load. Derrick Henry showed the whole package based on why they won the game. So as far as the MVP race is concerned, when we talked last time, you said to you, Lamar Jackson is the MVP, somewhat running away with it, especially after today's win. Is your thoughts on your MVP going to change once we see the Bills' Josh Allen play tomorrow and he puts up another unbelievable Superman performance? Or are we sticking with Lamar the next two games? I think it's close, Ocho, and the thing is that the question

is, if they win tomorrow, they clinch the second seed. So does Josh Allen play the final game of the season? Lamar's going to play because right now they're number one. They're in first place in the AFC North.

Now, if Pittsburgh wins next week and Baltimore lose, Pittsburgh re-jumps them. And so now they're on the road for the first game instead of being at home. Okay, let me give you a small tidbit real quick. So this weekend, a matter of fact,

Saturday, the Bengals play to play the Broncos. Correct. Correct. Yes. Okay. So after the Bengals beat the Broncos the following week, the Bengals are playing the Steelers.

Yes. And the Bengals have to win the next two games in order to get out of the hunt and be in the playoffs and have somewhat of a wild card correct but they also gotta hope the broncos lose against kansas city in which patrick mahomes travis kelsey and a lot of their starters aren't gonna play because they've sold up the number one seed you're not gonna risk it so now you got kansas city that's not gonna play any of their starters next week chris jones is. He missed today. So now you're looking at Kansas City. Mahomes is not playing. He's going to be in

street clothes. Travis Kelsey will be in street clothes. A lot of their starters will be in street clothes. Now you got to play you only got like eight offensive linemen. A lot of your offensive linemen got to play Ocho. They don't have no choice. They got no choice. But some of your skill position, you might call up some of your practice

squad guys, give them an opportunity to get a full, a real game check in a situation like that. But you're absolutely right. Bengals have to win their last two. Hope the Broncos lose their last two. But they also got to hope Indy and Miami lose one. But if Indy and Miami win out, it doesn't matter what the Bengals do. It doesn't matter what the Bengals do. It doesn't even matter what the Broncos do. So they're behind the Dolphins, they're behind the Colts,

and they're behind the Broncos. So they need the Broncos to lose their last two, and they need Indy and Miami to lose at least one while they win out. Can Ash hear me? Yes. Can Ash hear me? Ash, who does Indy last two games, and who are the Dolphins last two games?

Please tell me somebody that's difficult, or teams that have winning records. I think they got Buffalo. I know probably the last- Oh, we good. No, no, no. Oh, we good. Miami got-

No, but see, here's the thing. Remember, as a matter of fact, they got the Jets tomorrow. The Buffalo got the Jets and the Patriots. Miami has the Browns and the Jets. Oh, that's not fair. Hell no, man. And Indy got Tennessee. Indy has the Giants and the Jags.

Where do they play? They're at the Giants' home versus the Jags. So you need a lot of faith to really, really go right for you guys in order to really make the playoff. And Ocho, this is what we always say. I hated that because I've been in that situation with the Bengals are in because we didn't take care of our business

early in the season. Now I got to hope and pray. Man, I'm praying somebody else lose. I'm praying this happen. No, all you had to do was take care of what you're supposed to, and then you get to sit back and hope somebody else has to do that dirty work.

I don't have to worry about that. But I think Kansas City likes where they are. They're like, look, we did what else has to do that dirty work. I don't have to worry about that. But I think Kansas City likes where they are. They're like, look, we did what we needed to do. We went on the road and they dominated the Steelers on both sides of the football. We're good. We got to buy nothing nobody else do. Now we get an opportunity to rest up.

And if you look at Ocho, the last couple of games, they look really good. This was Patrick Mahomes' best game. Three clean game. Easily. He threw the ball really well. They did Patrick Mahomes' best game. Three clean game. Easily. He threw the ball really well. They did a great job of throwing the football because, look, against the Steelers, Steelers is like

you got to be convicted to run the football. You don't run the football on the Steelers on accident. You have to be committed. The word I want to be committed. You got to be committed no matter who you're playing. If you want to run the football, Ocho, it's on accident. You have to be committed. The word I want to be committed. You got to be committed. No matter who you're playing, if you want to run the football, Ocho,

it's a commitment. You look at the Ravens. That's why the Ravens, for the most part, they one or two in the league in rushing. Why? Because they make a commitment to run the football. When you play the Steelers, you got the double that.

You have to make a double commitment. Look, guys, we know some of these plays are going to be negative. We know some of these plays are going negative we know some of these plays gonna go for no yardage but we gotta stick with it and that's what the Ravens do for the most part but if you look at when they when they struggle they get away from the run game Lamar Jackson threw the ball 15 times tonight he completed 10 they ran the ball almost tripled at 43 rush attempts. You saw now Derrick Henry, he loves running the football against the Houston Texans. Yeah.

He loves it. He's had in one season, he had a game where he rushed for two 11 and then followed it up on the road with a two 50. I think he has seven. I think he has like what? Like seven games where he's had over 1500 yards rushing against the Houston Texas. So I don't think we should be surprised that he had the type of game against like seven games where he's had over 1,500 yards rushing against the Houston Texans.

So I don't think we should be surprised that he had the type of game against the Houston Texans. But when the Baltimore Ravens show a commitment to run the football, they're very difficult to beat. And we see how dynamic they is. And see, what happened was they got off to this great running start, and you saw what the Texans tried to do. They started pinching. They started knifing.

And Todd Munkin said, okay, Will Anderson, you want a knife? Hey, we're going to fake it. Lamar, you keep it, and we're going to pull around. And now he hit his head on a goal post for 48 yards away. I'm going to make you play us honest now. Now, if you want to go against what you're supposed to do and knife down in there to trap derrick henry in the backfield okay hey lamar we're gonna run the same formation we're gonna give him the same

design because the last time they brought zay flowers he disregarded zay i ain't worried about you say you ain't gonna do nothing so this time they brought a tight end he disregarded it now you got an extra blocker up on somebody you get get a kick out, you get a pin down, and now it's your safety. Tackle him if you can. At that point, it's all about numbers games. It's a numbers game at that point. Yeah.

With the Ravens playing the way they're playing, with us, common sense that you've been preaching all season long, anytime they run the ball a certain number of times, using Derrick Henry and not allowing Lamar Jackson to be back there and be pass happy and allowing the pass plays to actually come to them and not force an issue,

let Derrick Henry take care of everything. Obviously, the way they play the game is the old school style. It's the old school style. And the fact that it works in today's era of a pass happy league where everybody throws the ball 100 times a game. but what works for the ravens and why they win games is doing what you've always saying what you've always said week in and week out i think

listen i'm i listen i'm a bingo at heart i think they have a very good chance in this being the year that lamar jackson wins a super bowl and it would have to come on the onus and the shoulders of derrick henry and sticking, like you said, and committing to running the ball no matter who they're playing against. And that's what you have to do, Ocho. I think the thing is is that, and people are like, well, what do you mean by knifing? It's when they take the defensive end and they try to cross the guy's face

because you see the two negative runs he had, what happened? The guy knifed and they made him bounce it. So that's what I want him to do. I don't want his shoulder pad square to the line of scrimmage. I want him going parallel to the line of scrimmage because now he can't get a head of steam and he can't hurt me. If you

look at when he got his yardage, he's going downhill. I don't want him going downhill. I want him going laterally. That way I can push him to the boundary. If I let him get downhill, hell, he gonna fall for two yards. If I let him get downhill, he's going to fall for two yards. Now you let him get a couple of steps. Now he's going to get four.

He's going to get six yards. But Todd Munkin did a great thing to counter that. He saw what they started to do to try to force the bounce. He said, you know what we're going to do? We're going to do the same thing. But what we're going to do is that we're going to bring a tight end. And so now we get a kick out. We get a pin down. Now safety safety and the safety is coming from depth so he really doesn't know

what to do and before he knew it lamar was up on him and he took a horrible angle so now lamar is looking at like bro what you're still running for yeah you might go ahead and turn around yeah the funny thing about it is we already know lamar jackson is, but you never understand it as a defender until you sit there, you take a bad angle, you try to tackle him. It's over. And you fucking whiff. Yes. And you whiff.

And before you know it, he's 30, 40, some yards down the goddamn field. And the thing is, Ocho, and when you don't make him check his feet, when you just let him get ahead of steam and he gets to go downhill, because by the time he breaks the line of scrimmage, he's like three or four yards. He's full speed. He's full speed in three or four steps. Lamar Jackson is full speed because you haven't made him check his feet. Right.

You got to. If you can't make him come to balance and if you can't make him make some type of move to make you miss, well, you're asking trouble. Hell, if you can't make Derrick Henry shuffle his feet. You can't make him check his feet? Man, shh. Who want to make that tackle? Who? You talking about making a business decision? I'm diving straight at his pinky toe. Yeah,

exactly. Straight at his pinky toe. Hit who? Yeah. We went and looked it up. Edger and James had the most rushing yards for a quarterback in his MVP season. He had 1,548 yards. Edger and James had the most rushing yards for a quarterback in his MVP season. He had 1,548 yards. Uh,

Peyton Manning was the MVP in 2000 and 2004. Peyton, that was the year that Peyton broke Dan Marino's record of 40. He threw 49. Marino had the record of 48 touchdowns in the season. Manning threw 49 that season. That's also the season. He had three receivers catch for 1,000 yards.

He had Marvin Harrison go over 1,000. He had Reggie Wayne go over 1,000. And he had Brandon Stokely go over 1,000. Derrick Henry is almost at 1,800. And so, look, for me, I still think, for me, Lamar, and I get what the board is going to say. The board is going to say with Shannon, bro, he got a 1,800, 1,900-yard rusher in his backfield.

But he didn't have a 1,900-yard rusher last time. I'm like, huh? He didn't have a 1,900-yard rusher when he won MVP last time. So they can't use that excuse. Don't move the goalpost. But I'm saying, but see, last time, Ocho, he threw 25 touchdowns. He's at 39. With another game to play.

So there's a great chance Lamar Jackson is going to have 40, 41, maybe even 42 touchdowns with less than five interceptions. Remember, he threw five interceptions. He was 25 and five. Now he's like, he's got 43 touchdowns with four interceptions. And maybe I think he got two or three fumbles. So let's just say he's 43 total touchdowns with four interceptions, and maybe I think he's got two or three fumbles. So let's just say he's 43 total touchdowns with seven or fewer turnovers. Go ahead. Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that about the turnover ratio.

I know, and we talk about Aaron Rodgers a lot, right? Yes. We talk about Aaron Rodgers, and you wonder why he gets the opportunities he gets, why he has the arrogance or the way he carries himself on. They put up a graphic. I saw it on Twitter on his numbers and his run when he was in Green Bay. Oh, yeah.

You see that? Oh, my God. I know. I know it was like that. Yes. I know it was like that. Twenty five and three. Thirty six and thirty six and five.

Yeah. Forty five. Forty five and six. Yeah. What? Touchdown. Touchdown. Inter and five. Yeah, 45 and six, yeah. What? Touchdown and interception ratio? Yes. What? Stupid. It looks like some video game shit. So it gave me a better understanding. It gave me better context

on why he is the way he is. But you're just not that same player. You're not that. You're not that no more. No. But God. Hey, listen. I knew he was good. I understood his resume. I didn't understand it until I seen him got their numbers up there on Goddamn Twitter.

So now, today, after today's game, Derrick Henry has 1,738 rushing yards. Lamar Jackson is a tick below 4,000. I think he has, like, 3,955, 3,965, something like that, passing yards I think he has like 39, 55, 39, 65, something like that, passing yards. But he has 39 passing touchdowns with four interceptions. And he has 850-something yards rushing with another four touchdowns.

So it's hard. It's really, really hard. I think this year, Ocho, had Mahomes had better numbers, it wouldn't even be a debate because 15-1. If Lamar Jackson had like 30 touchdowns with, say, like eight interceptions, Lamar Jackson, I mean, excuse me, Mahomes would be the MVP because think about it.

They're the only team other than the Giants, they're like three, four teams that haven't scored at least 30 points in one game. The best of the other teams, they're like three, four teams that haven't scored at least 30 points in one game. The best of the other teams, they've won three games. Yeah. The Chiefs have yet to score 30 in a game. They're 15 and one. And it's all because.

Now, the Raiders is one. They're looking for a quarterback. The Patriots is one. They got a rookie quarterback. Yeah. And I forget who the other team is. So that just goes to show you just how special you got to be. Nobody else in that offense on that team, no other quarterback in the league,

not Josh Allen, not Lamar Jackson, and not Joe Burrow would be 15-1 with that offensive line like that. Right. Yeah. Oh, it was bad. And today, he put on an exhibition. would be 15-1 with that offensive line like that. Right, yeah. Oh, it was bad. And today, he put on an exhibition. He lets you know.

He's like, guys, y'all really know I'm still him. I might not be having the best season, but don't y'all forget who I am. Yeah. Listen, it all comes down to his decision-making. Even when most quarterbacks would be in the situations he's had with the offensive line, the inconsistency of the offensive line, him getting battered, getting hit, you know, at some point, you get happy feet,

you start doing things with the ball, your decision-making, it becomes errant because of the hit you continue to take. But they've always stuck the course, and then the creativity and the combination of having a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes and the creativity of Andy Reid as well. Yes.

I think the combination works so well together. Similar to that of Brady and goddamn Belichick. Yeah. In a different sense, though. In a different sense because Belichick was a defensive mind. Right. But just having Mahomes and Andy Reid together is almost unfair to have all the different woes and the injuries that

they've sustained and still be 15-1. Yeah. The thing is about Andy, for the most part, Mahomes, the most part, he's only had Andy in his ear. Now, there have been times that he allowed somebody else to call maybe EB to call plays or maybe Nagy to call plays, but Brady

had Charlie Weiss in his ear. He had Bill O'Brien in his ear. He had Josh McDaniel in his ear. I was there with Bill, yeah. So he's had three guys in his ear. Now, the only thing that's remained the same was the head coach and the quarterback. We've had different coordinators, and the coordinators called plays.

I think for the most part, what people got upset about is that they used not calling plays against EB, but they didn't hold that against Nagy. Now, Nagy did get a team, did get the Bears to the playoffs and we've seen EB go somewhere where he called the plays, kind of fell on hard times and everybody was like, see, I told you,

see? And I said it at the time. I said, EB, stay right there. Yeah. Stay right where you are. But you know why he didn't there? Because you know for us, it's hard for us to climb that ladder. So when those opportunities present themselves, sometimes

you got to walk out that door. What do you think the likelihood now of Eric Bannerman ever getting a head coaching job in the NFL? And that's the problem. I'm not going to go there. You know where I want to go, but I'm not going to go there because sometimes you can step off the front porch, you know, and you can be abysmal.

But that circle, that circle of coaches, you will get another opportunity again. Because they're looking at it, they're like, bro. I'm not talking about him. Okay, okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah, stay with me now. I'm trying not to go there.

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because their offense is so atrocious, and you go to UCLA with a brother coach, head coach, and you get fired after one year because you're last. Ocho, that's not a good sign. Yeah. It really isn't. And so sometimes, hey, I just wait them out. Just wait them out.

Right. Look, for me, Lamar weighed him out. Just weighed him out. Look, for me, Lamar is the MVP. I mean, I just can't overlook his numbers. I just can't, Ocho. And I know some people like, it'll be interesting to see what's the most losses for an MVP. And I get it, Ocho, five losses and Allen has, what, three losses. Mahomes doesn't have the stats to back up. He's 15-1.

Jerry Goff has good numbers. He doesn't have great numbers, but they've only lost two games. Saquon is playing really well, but unless he had 2,000 yards right now. Right. Running back not getting that. Oh, Lord. That was in 1997? God.

But he was sensational. Who that? Who that? Who that? Barry. Barry in 97. They were 9-7. But that was the year he had 2,053.

And then Adrian Peterson, the year he broke the record, he was five yards short of the six, seven, eight yards short of the record. Nine yards short because he had 1990, 19, he had 2097. So he needed nine yards to get 2106. But he won the MVP. But now in that situation, it's different, Ocho. Let me tell you why. You look at the quarterbacks that Barry had and you look at the quarterback AP had, they're like it should have been unanimous oh yeah he had christian ponder as his quarterback

i don't know if y'all know remember christian ponder but he was real good and terrible and barry quarterback wasn't much better right wait who was bar quarterback? Scott Mitchell? Was it Scott Mitchell? OK. Oh, but so there is history here. The most losses for a quarterback winning MVP. Brad Favre won the MVP with five losses. Matt Ryan won the MVP with five losses. Rich Gannon won the MVP with five losses. So if Lamar Jackson wins the MVP, it's not like, oh, he got five losses. No, we've seen three other guys at the quarterback position win mvp with five losses so i'm what i'm trying to do i'm trying to cover all the bases because you know this is going to come up if he doesn't get it

they're going to give you a reason why so i'm just trying to prepare the people if he doesn't get the mvp i'm telling you why some of the reasons going to to start to come out. But your refute is, but they've given the MVP to other quarterbacks that didn't have this type of season, the MVP. Right. With five losses. Running backs are different because, look, like I said, Adrian Peterson, how he got that team in the playoffs with that quarterback, how Barry did with it.

But Barry was a co-MVP with Brett. Because Brett won three consecutive 95 96 97 there was a co-mvp between brett and barry um but yeah i i like i said for me if i had a vote i definitely would vote for lamar jackson i just can't over i just cannot overlook 39 touchdowns before interception they're right now they're first place in the AFC North. The four rushing touchdowns were 852 yards. I can't overlook that. I know Derrick Henry's in his backfield. I know Derrick Henry is lighting the load on Lamar.

But he's still doing it. Yeah. He's still doing it. You know what's funny? It's funny for me. Even I can separate the two i can separate uh uh being a being a bangle playing for a franchise where obviously the enemy is is the ravens but i can separate the two and understand the greatness that is lamar jackson i can appreciate the quarterback

playing what he's been able to do since watching him at high school at boyden high school watching him at louisville and seeing how he's grown and matured into the quarterback he is today, when they've always said what he couldn't do. We don't think he could be a quarterback in this NFL. We think he should try running back. Yeah, hell no. Just all the stuff he's had to overcome, all the obstacles and the hurdles, and to see where he's come now, I can honestly say this,

and even as a Bengals, as much as I bleed that goddamn black and orange, I really hope he wins the whole thing this year. I really hope he wins the whole thing this year, Ung. Not just the MVP, but goddammit, motherfucker, get you a chip just to get him off your back. So there's nothing else they can say, Ung. Just so there's nothing else they can say. And if you have any type of documentary, if you have any type of film that talks about the start to

the finish, I want the lead up to it, how it starts to be all the negative things everybody said. That's all. Oh, Joe. I think the thing is when we try to explain things to people, people don't see, they'll take a clip

and because a lot of times people use clickbait because they've got my face, they got our face up there, or Nightcap said something, and they frame it in a negative light, they don't even listen to it. I've said, I don't believe Lamar Jackson's career

is a failure if he doesn't win a championship. But there have been nine guys to win two MVPs. Every last one has won a Super Bowl. Guys, people say Aaron Rodgers has

underachieved with four MVPs and one Super Bowl. So what do you think they're going to say about Lamar if he has three MVPs and no Super Bowls on his resume when he retires? If Aaron Rodgers, if people believe Aaron Rodgers is underachieved with four MVPs and one Super Bowl. Ocho, what will people say about Lamar if he has three MVPs and no Super Bowls when his career is over? It's going to be worse.

It's a disappointment. Yeah, it's going to be worse. You understand that. The people understand that. Those are... You have to be able to not be a fan. Understand the politics. Understand what comes with the game when it comes to the totality

and the resume and the entirety of someone's body of work. And the requirements to be talked about in the elite, the top groups. Yes. You got to win.

You got to win a trophy. You got to have one. You need something. At least one of them, especially when you're as great as you are in the regular season, which is why I can sit here

and say, I really hope, I really hope after winning MVP this year, I hope he goes to New Orleans and he's able to lift that goddamn Lombardi. I really do. And that's what it comes down to, Ocho.

It really does. You know, look, you got to take black and white out of it. I know everything. We want to make a lot of things we want about racism, but we can't do it in this situation because we have nine guys that have won at least two MVPs.

Every last one has won an MVP, a Superbowl. So now we're going to say, well, well, if Lamar Jackson don't win, well, that's fine and dandy. No. And the reason why I don't, and many others don't hold Burrow and Josh Allen and all the other quarterbacks to Lamar because they don't have MVP. Once you get an MVP, you're thought of, you look at differently.

Right. He gets looked at like now he gets, now he wins a Super Bowl. He gets judged just like my homeboy. He gets judged just like Brady, just like Manning, just like all the other great quarterbacks that have multiple MVPs and a Super Bowl. That's only

right. And you know what I think about it? Yes. I think about it from a different perspective. I'm looking at it through a different lens. I think about Lamar Jackson, the quarterback. Lamar Jackson, the quarterback. Yes. Lamar Jackson, the quarterback

that doesn't fit the mold. Yes. That all the rest of them do. The Lamar Jackson that chose not to change. The Lamar Jackson that remained his true authentic self,

especially based on where he's come from. You know? He's still Lamar Jackson. The same Lamar Jackson from Pompano. Yes. Nothing has changed.

And he's still playing the quarterback position without having to conform, staying true to himself, to who he really is. That's what makes him. I love that. That's what makes him who he is. He's not a pocket passer. So why am I going to try to be Tom Brady? Why am I going to try to be Peyton Manning when I can be Lamar Jackson and win

just like they won and win MVPs and get to and win the Super Bowl? They had to do it that way because they didn't have the athleticism to play outside of the pocket. Lamar Jackson has the athleticism

to play outside of the pocket. He also has the ability to throw in between the tackles. But if I don't have to, why should I? I don't have to prove I'm going to win this game. And sometimes I felt that he wanted to prove that he could throw the ball from the pocket and win a game to say, I told you so. Win that Super Bowl and say, all y'all 31 that passed me, even the Ravens.

But I give y'all a grace because Ozzie got out. He was in the second round. He traded back up to get me. And I promised him a Super Bowl. I've delivered that, but I'm not done. So if you think I'm going to be satisfied with one, you're sadly mistaken. I'm putting everybody on notice.

Now, hopefully, they bring D. Henry back. I don't know what Tennessee was doing. Whoa, hopefully, they bring D. Henry back. I don't know what Genesee was... Whoa, whoa, whoa. He on a one-year? He on a one-year? He on a one-year. One-year, eight million. Man.

They got to bring him back. I'm not saying they got to, but understanding... They need to. ...and how the business works. Right. I mean, listen. While it's hot, while the comb is hot, while the comb is hot, come on now, don't be no fool.

And the thing is, Ocho, as many carries as he gets the ball, he's there every week. Now, I don't know what his practice schedule is like. I don't know if they give him off Monday, I mean, Wednesday, Thursday, and just let him have some walkthrough. The running back always get Wednesday off. All I know is, more times than not, he lines it up. Yeah.

All that other stuff, I don't know a whole lot of other stuff, but I know that man takes a lot of pounding, and every single week I see him dotting the I. So, Ocho, it only took Lamar four carries to become the all-time leading rusher in the nfl history for the quarterback position uh the record was 6109 held by former colleague michael vick lamar passed michael vick despite playing 41 fewer games so basically he played two and a half seasons fewer than what Vic has played, and he broke the record.

Crazy. That's crazy. And people wouldn't understand how crazy that is and how that sounds when you understand what Vic was during his time. Here's the thing, though, Ocho. It took Michael Vic 13 seasons to get to that number. Lamar's done it under seven, right? In under seven seasons.

He's in his seventh season right now, right? Yeah, he's in seven. Because he's right, but he's a year behind my homeboy. Because my homeboy's at eight. He's in seven. But he started halfway through his rookie season where my homeboy only got to one game. Go ahead.

I have a question, too. I like the milestone that he's reached in such a short amount of time as opposed to Vic. When you think about numbers like this, right, and saying that Lamar was able to reach a milestone that took Vic a little bit longer, that took Vic a little bit longer to get to. You count the season which he get drafted because he gonna play that year. Mahomes came in a year before.

And then Mahomes run the MVP, his rookie, his second year. And then Lamar run the MVP his second year. Go ahead, what were you saying, Ocho? Now I was saying, when you look at the milestone that Lamar Jackson was able to reach in such a short amount of time, as opposed to Vic who took a little longer to do it. The same thing when it comes to receivers. Receivers playing in today's game and receivers that played before them in a different era. Do you ever take into account that the game is different now?

It is. Into how you're not allowed to, you know, the physicality has been taken out of it. So I don't want to call it easy it's a little bit easier to put up the numbers they're doing today or you don't take that into account oh yeah well for the quarterback is it really easy for the quarterback to scramble yeah look i think that here it is ojo i think the thing is is that they do protect the quarterback a lot more than say maybe even when Vic first got into the league. It's not like, look, they protect all the quarterbacks.

Now, 80s and the 90s, when I came to the league, 60s and 70s, boy, look here. They didn't care about none of y'all well-being back then. If they would hit a quarterback like some of the times I saw Elway get hit, my quarterback could see some of the other quarter saw Elway get hit, uh, my quarterback and see some of the mother quarterback. Oh, you get suspended three games. I'm telling them Joe will put in a helmet,

right? Oh man. They were putting a helmet right in the guy's sternum. Right. Right. Drop it. I mean, we want to,

we got to the soup bowl because a goose dropped his weight down on Rich Gannon's shoulder. Go back and look at the AFC Championship game. Separated his shoulder, broke his collarbone, separated his shoulder or something, and put him out. You can't attack the quarterback like that. But what L Jack is doing at the quarterback position, because not only can he run, we know he's the best runner in the game.

Yeah. Now he's a top five passer, and I'm not so sure he's four or five. So when you look at that, when you combine, he's the best runner at the quarterback position and he's a top five passer at the position. How do you stop it? You hope he has an off day.

You hope you pressure him. You hope you can get a couple of turnovers here and there. And that's the, that's the way you beat the Ravens. Try to try to get him off schedule. Try to get him off day. You hope you pressure him. You hope you can get a couple turnovers here and there. And that's the way you beat the Ravens. Try to get him off schedule. Try to get him off script. That's the best thing you can do. But the problem is, if you pressure him and you get out the back door... Yeah, you better not run past him

now. Then you ask out. Yeah, you better not jump. Hey, once you get even... You see, in fact, the Ocho heat back here. Once you get here, you better level off. Yeah. You run past it. Stop and be under control.

It's one thing to talk about it. It's another thing to be out there and goddamn be able to do it. Absolutely. Well, we do have the fact then that Michael Vick went away. He did go to federal prison for 23 months. I think he was out of the league for like two or three years. And so the record would... Look, I'm not saying Lamar wouldn't

have this record eventually, but I do believe Michael Vick would have had more rush yards than what he had because when he came back, yeah, he was still... But he wasn't a Michael Vick experience, Vick. He wasn't Atlanta Vick. He was a better... He was a better thrower of the football in Philly.

But that guy on that turf in Atlanta? It was different. The Chiefs go to Pittsburgh and they win 29-10. So up the number one seed in the AFC with a 15-1. They'll get the first round by, have home field advantage

throughout the playoffs as long as they win. The 19-point margin of victory was the Chiefs' largest of the season. They had 389 yards, more than half, more than they had in all. Ocho, check this out. The 389 was the most yards they had in the season in all but one game. Even without Chris Jones, Russell Wilson was sacked five times, intercepted once, and they forced a turnover by the Steelers. Andy Reid called it the most complete game of the season.

You and I talked about that at the beginning of the thing. When you look at Mahomes and you look at what they were able to do offense without their best defensive player on the road in a hostile environment and i look i know some steelers have kind of fallen on hard time they've lost their last three games but that's still pittsburgh very well coached they have a very good defense offensively they couldn't run the football today oh they did run it good god oh that was late in the ball game nige harris had 13 for 74 uh 74. Jalen Warren had 11 for 71. They had 31 for 202.

I think the turning point, Ocho, in that ballgame is when Rush threw that interception in the end zone. That food. It was covered. Ocho, what it was, it was covered too. And what McDuffie did is that he got a jam so good on pickings, pick and stop. So in the process of him stopping, Reed is looking at him.

He's like, well, I don't got to get wide now. I can stay right here on the hash. Russell Spoo thought he was going to get wide. He doesn't get wide. Yeah. I got you. See, it was Pickens.

Pickens can't get jammed there because we need to get jammed. You got to go. You still got to go, Ojo. You got to hold the safety. You got to put the safety in the motherfucking bind. You got to.

If you put the safety in the bind, then it's a two way go. Rush has a two way go with the ball. But once you took it, once Duffy took away Pickens, there's only one, it's only, and once you look to the left, there's only one place you can go. Exactly. Because here's the thing.

If Pickens gets past McDuffie, McDuffie gots to retreat. But now since Pickens stopped, there ain't nothing to threaten the flat. So I'm going to stay right here. Yeah. And so now instead of getting wide, Reed says,

I ain't, why do I need to get wide for? Ain't no threat over there. No threat. Yeah. My threat is coming. And he like, boom.

And then he picked him. And I think that cost him a little bit more. That cost him some momentum right there. Yeah. And you know what? The, the, the Steelers in the first half, I mean, they were trying to control time of possession obviously being able

to run the ball being able to run the ball and throw it here and there especially to the tight end is if i don't i don't want to butcher his name is it fire fire move fire fire move fire him and him and russ was cooking for a little bit on some of those Yeah. The problem with them is when they were getting to the red zone, they weren't being, they weren't scoring anyone, putting them no damn points, man. They won't put them.

If you get, if you're getting down, if you're getting anywhere in the facility, anywhere in the vicinity, you got to put up something. Yes. Yes. Oh,

Joe, the Steelers didn't run the ball that well. Gordon to the fourth quarter, the Steelers had 10 rushes for 89 yards. So that's in the fourth quarter, yeah. And so now that tells me that's a lot of garbage yards. So in the fourth quarter, at some point, the Chiefs said, like, we'll let y'all run it.

We're just not going to give y'all anything cheap, anything deep. Russell Wilson was 23 of 37, 20 205 he didn't play well uh russ hadn't played well the last couple of weeks and this team is not good enough to overcome poor play at the quarterback position remember that's why they made the switch to a russ because they were winning games but it's a it's a struggle when your quarterback doesn't play well. Because now you're in these nail biters and you got to go nip-tuck, nip-tuck, nip-tuck, and you got to hope a lot of things go well. The one turnover, you only had one turnover today. But again, they had two turnovers.

That definitely took points off the board because they were already in field goal range. And so that interception that Reed got took points off the board. We don't know how that would have turned out if they could have held on to that ball, that Friar Moose fumble. But when you play against the Chiefs,

even though they're not as explosive as they once were, you still got to play damn near perfect. Don't worry about what they're were. You still got to play damn near perfect. Don't worry about what they doing. You.

You have to. You have no choice. You know why? Because of 15. Because of 15. He forced you, man. Because of 15. That's all it come down to.

29 to 38. 320. Three touchdowns. Kelsey, eight catches, 84 three 23 touchdowns. Uh, um, Kelsey, eight catches, 84 yards of touchdowns. Xavier Worthy,

eight catches, 79 yards, touchdown. Justin Watson, two catches, 60 yards, uh, touchdown,

uh, Hollywood Brown, four for 46. So my JP ride two for 20, uh, Juju two for 18. D hop. I had a quiet day today.

But the thing is, and listen, y'all, listen, I don't know what y'all thinking. When they bring Justin Watson in the game, he running two routes. He running a nine or he running a post. Now, I don't know what y'all thinking, but y'all need to go back. He can run. Oh, yeah. DBs, I don't know what y'all been't go back. He can run. Oh, yeah. DBs, I don't know what y'all been told that

white guys can't run. They can't jump. When Justin Watson comes in the game, he gonna run two routes. He running a post or he gonna run his nine route. Now, you ain't gotta believe me, but now when the man behind

you, you look at that. Well, what the man behind you you're looking like well what happened I told you what's going to happen they're going to run the dagger to the back side and they're going to hold the safety jump and they're going to run the post to the back side with him on it so I'm just giving just giving you a heads up

in case y'all don't want to watch film but that's with Justin Watson because he got wheels. He can run. And he's a big kid. He ain't no little receiver, Ocho. I think Deontay Johnson, he kind of underestimated him a little bit. He tried to jam him at the line, and he missed.

And I thought, you know, Deontay's fast now. So I thought maybe he thought, oh, I'm going to catch up to him. Oh, no, you're not. Oh, no. Ocho, people don't understand. 4-3 ain't catching 4-3. 4-3 might catch 4-5. You ain't catching 4-3 because you got to realize you got the back pedal

and then turn. He running from the jump. Yeah, yeah. You not catching that. Nah. And got a big play out of that. But the Steelers, whoo.o y'all gotta dig deep now hey because you know the Bengals are coming in they know in order for them to have any chance they've got to win that if they win Sunday they know in order for them to have any chance

they've got to win y'all gotta take care of this so the Broncos got y'all though hold on hold on when we when we win Saturday, we play Saturday. Oh, you're Saturday. My bad. You're right. You're right. When we play and win Saturday, then we will take care of our business with the Steelers. Okay.

Right now, we focus on the Broncos. Y'all focus on the Broncos? We focus on the Broncos. Bronco country. Because after that game, Bronco who? Bronco country. Yeah. Okay. Because after that game- I'm who? Bronco Country. Yeah, okay.

Because after that game, you're not going to be. I'm sorry, y'all ain't got no. Y'all talking about welcome to the jungle. Yeah, y'all ain't got no. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, it's the jungle. Oh, it's the jungle now.

Believe that. Where we playing y'all at? We going to Mile High? No, y'all. We coming to y'all. So what you think is going to happen? What you think? Matter of fact, I'm going to go to that game. Bron finna... Matter of fact, I'm gonna go to that game.

Bronco country. Matter of fact, I'm gonna go to that game. Hey, Patrick Sertain Jr., what you gonna do with Uno and Five out there? Do you realize when they target... When they target PS2, their QB,

their rating is like 36.1. You come out better just throwing the ball in the dirt. You'll have a higher quarterback rating if you just threw the ball in the dirt. Okay. So you want to bet something on the matchup? You already owe me three bands.

I owe you how much? Three bands. Let's double or nothing then. Double or nothing. Double or nothing. Double or nothing. How you go to the bank, borrow money from the bank, don't pay the bank,

and say, you know what? Hey, give me double what you owe me. I want you to give me double what I borrowed from you, and I'm going to pay you back. I tell you, I'm good for it, though. No, you ain't good for it. If you were good for it,

I already have it. My money drawing interest in your pocket. I'm good for it, though. No, you ain't good for it. If you were good for it, I already have it. My money drawing interest in your pocket. Well, you know, double it up then. One thing about it, I'm going to get it to you regardless. Because you know I'm good for it. What'd they say? Money out of sight calls a fight.

We ain't going to fight. Because listen, I'm not going to jail for beating on my elders. I tell you what. You know what I tell people right here, Ocho? If I can't get you up off me, you're welcome to stay. I promise you that. That's all I got for you. If you get on me and I can't get you off, feel free to stay there.

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Ocho, check this out. Russell Wilson goes all out for gifts for his offensive linemen. He gave each of his offensive linemen a $10,000 gift card, Airbnb gift card that can be used anywhere around the globe. He got each one of them Louis Vuitton duffel bags in Steelers colors, custom-made Steelers good membrane shoes made with Wilson's, his clothing brand, and a bottle of Sierra's 10 to 1 rum. There were some good gifts. I mean, the Eagles, Hertz and Saquon

got the linemen custom golf carts. I'm talking about big ones. Josh Jacobs got the offensive linemen diamond pennants. We saw Mahone Boy. I forgot what Mahone Boy got his guys. But I mean, oh, he got a Rolex. Hey, Lamar Jackson, he got his guys Rolexes.

L Jack got his guys Rolexes. The offensive lineman, they feel real confident. They got Josh Allen, a pendant with MVP on the back. Ooh. Ooh. They jump in the gun a little bit. Hey, they bumping those up, we don't. Listen, they jump in the gun a little bit. Hey, they're about to go something we don't. Listen, they jump in the gun a little bit, rightfully so.

Even if he doesn't win it, in their eyes, he's had an MVP season. So I understand it. I understand it. But listen, them quarterbacks, they making different kind of money where you can give these type of gifts. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give these type of gifts to your linemen and appreciation for what they've done for you throughout the entirety of the season.

It's a dope gesture. It's a very, very dope gesture. Oh, sure. Plus the fact, look, quarterbacks, they're different. Quarterbacks can go to dealers and these places that have these ATVs and all this other stuff, and they're going to get a discount. They're going to hit me and you over the head. They're going to want full price. As a matter of fact, they might upcharge us.

I mean, but the quarterbacks, they probably, hey, how many do you want to buy, Mr. Mahomes? Okay, we'll do this. Instead of charging, we'll give you two of them for what we bought them for. You know what I'm saying? But, I mean, Lamar got, like I said, Lamar got his linemen on Rolexes also. I saw Booger McFarlane tweeted, talk about DBs, when y'all going to get something for the D linemen on Rolexes also. I saw Booger McFarlane tweeted, talking about, DBs, when y'all going to get something for the D linemen?

Y'all can't cover without us, bro. I don't know what to tell you about that, Booger. I thank you. First of all, Booger, you don't even play no more. You should have thought about that when you was in the league. You can't even talk about RC. RC ain't even play no more. You should have thought about that when you was in the league. You can't even talk about RC. RC ain't in the league either.

I'm trying to think, have I ever heard of DBs getting something for the D line? No, I haven't. No. I mean, I don't know. Maybe Ray got something for Goose and Big Sam for his first MVP. I don't remember. I don't know. maybe Ray got something for Goose and Big Sam for his first MVP.

I don't remember. I don't know. But rest his soul, Goose. Yeah, but those quarterbacks. But see, I'm making $50 million, $60 million, plus another probably $5 million, $10 million off the field. I mean, Mahomes might be doing $15 million, $20 million in endorsements off the field. So he might be bringing home $70 million a year.

Well, yeah. What I care about dropping $5.5 million to $1 million on my line? Yeah, that ain't nothing. Yeah. According to Adam Schefter, Pete Carroll has expressed interest in the Chicago Bears head coaching job and would like to return to the sideline next season. Three teams, the Bears, the Jets, the Saints,

are in the market for a head coach who can help reset their culture. Few coaches have had it more effective than Carroll at doing that. Carroll is one of the four head coaches that have led teams to both national championships and Super Bowls. Barry Switzer, Jimmy Johnson, and Jim Harbaugh. I like Pete, but not in Chicago. They need an offensive. Look, they can get a defensive, but he has to go scour and get for a college,

maybe even a college OC that's creative, that knows how to work with the skill set of what Caleb Williams possess. He can't go get one of those conventional guys that he had in Seattle. That ain't going to work. You know what I think? Now, we talk about the Chicago job, and I like what you said about Pete Carroll, who is a player's coach. I think the players will gravitate towards him,

but you do need Officer Cordell that has the creativity that can help Caleb Williams use his skill set to his ability and what he's able to do. Another job. Now, we talked about Mike McCarthy, right? We just talked about him the other night. Ben Johnson. What do you think about this? Ben Johnson, Dallas Cowboys. Oh, I like that.

You know, I haven't heard his name mentioned before, but it was never with the Cowboys. I think Ben Johnson would be the perfect fit for the Cowboys and working with Dak and bringing some of that creativity that he does over there in Detroit. Now, he doesn't have the same personnel to be able to do some of the things he did, but based on what you have and what he knows he has, the strengths and the weaknesses of the things he did, but based on what you have and what he knows he has, the strengths and the weaknesses

of the players on that team, I think he would do some damage as that head coach. Matter of fact, head coach and offensive coordinator. Keep calling the players there in Dallas, too, if the opportunity presents itself. So, yeah, Pete, because, he left Seattle last year. They got Mike McDonald, who was the former defensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens.

Zach Orr took over that job. John Harbaugh has a nice little tree. I mean, he got McDonald as a head coach. Zach Orr is the defensive coordinator. Anthony Weaver, who was in Baltimore. He's the D.C. at Miami. So John Harbaugh has put together a nice little staff, but Pete Carroll is interested in getting back into the NFL.

Coach Harbaugh, Coach Belichick seems like he might be only on the sidelines at North Carolina for one year because he has a $1 million buyout after one season. But you see how he did that? My son's a defensive coordinator and then if I step away, he gets to be coached and waited. See how he did that?

Now, I want to know what they call that because I know a lot of people was up and on. It started with an N. If I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't heard nobody say a word. Ain't nobody mention nothing about nepho-autism.

I ain't even heard nobody say anything about baptism. Right. I know one thing. I like what Belichick is doing, too. Now, there have been very many rumblings when there were job openings as head coaches in the NFL. Did you notice every team that did a hire, how young the coach was? Mm-hmm. You understand what I mean?

Now you talked about it. We talked about it. And I said, I think this is a good thing for Belichick to go to North Carolina because this is what it's going to show the people. It's going to show the owners in the NFL. Listen, I was one of the greatest coaches of all time. Matter of fact, I am the greatest coach of all time. My coaching ways might be a little outdated for today's era.

And I might not be able to relate to or resonate with the young players. I'm going to go to North Carolina. I'm going to show you that I can be a leader of young men. I can resonate with this era and the younger kids of this generation and win and build a nice program. Letting owners know that I want back in the NFL because I can relate to and coach these young players of this generation as well. Yeah. But I'm just saying,

I don't see the outrage because there's a lot of outrage. You know, if you notice when they do it, don't nobody from their culture talk about this nepotism. That's only us. Now we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it, but we talk about us. Oh, they about it but we'll talk about us

they call that the Bronny you see what he did they do it all the time Andy Reid had his sons on his staff coaching, Coach Belichick had his son on his staff coaching but somehow we feel bad if we give our homeboy

who you go look at the staff look at Sean McV go look at the staff. Look at Sean McVay. Look at Mike McDaniels. Look at LeFleur. Now, look at where they work. They would share the hand.

Look how many guys on that staff keep it going. But they make us feel bad. No, our culture make us feel bad if we give somebody like us an opportunity. Listen, we the only ones do that, though. We're not everybody, so we don't want to put everybody on the same boat. No, but I'm saying a good percentage, though, huh? Yes. Good percentage. But, I mean, if not, I ain't going to put my son in a position if that's not what he want to do.

Right. But Steve Belichick wants to coach. Okay. You want to coach? Oh, usually happens I'm a coach. Come on. My son wanted to be in media? This is what you want to do?

Come on. Right. Not what he wants to do. I don't got no problem. Good. It's okay when they do it. It's a problem when we do it. Yeah.

You know, they, you know, us, it's always, it's always going to be some, it's always going to be some, anytime it comes to talking about getting ahead in any way,

you know, and it doesn't, it doesn't benefit the next person. You know, but, but, but how, you know, and it doesn't benefit the next person, you know how it is. Yeah, but how? I mean, I want us to win. I really do, Ocho. I want us, the community.

I want everybody to win. But am I biased towards my community? Damn right. Because I grew up in that community, and I think there's some things that we can do and we should do. Right. But we've got to stop this. Anytime someone becomes successful in our community, think they did something seedy or undermined or underhanded to get there.

Oh, he sold his soul. They don't. I've never heard somebody say the Kelsey sold his soul. I've never heard. They don't say what Peyton Manning got a billion dollar company. And ain't nobody said he sold his soul. Me and you got a little thing. Man, and ain't nobody said he sold his soul. Me and you got a little thing.

Man, Uncle, the soul is sold. You notice that? Peyton Manning got a billion-dollar company after making $300 million-plus in the NFL, and not one person has ever said Peyton Manning sold his soul. Tom Brady get $400 million. Not one person said Tom Brady sold. I wonder what he had to do to get that job. Now, I need y'all to jump in the chat and tell me why.

You know why? No, no, no, no. I want to hear him say it. Because it seems like any time we do something, what about hard work? So what did I do to get to the NFL? I sold my soul? Discipline? Y'all just see how I approach what I do now.

Can you imagine how maniacal I was when I played to get to that? Right. That's not an accident. It's not an accident. There are two people from the same house of 3,500 people in a town. Make it to there. That's not an accident. Yeah.

But I just, I'm like, you should think, hell, the way I look at anything, Ocho, if I see somebody do it, I can do it. You did it. Oh, yeah. They only did it, what? They stopped giving job people opportunities to do something because you did it? Hell, yeah. So they only did it. They only, what? They stopped giving job people opportunities to do something because you did it?

Hell no. I don't think I'm better than anybody, Ojo. I don't. I've never felt because, oh, I can play football, I'm better than you. Or I'm in this situation, I'm better than you. Do I think I can do my job better than you do your job? Yeah. I do.

Yeah. You should feel that way. Most definitely. Do I think I could do my job better than you do your job? Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. You should feel that way. Most definitely. You should feel that way. But we're going to get this. We're going to be able to pull a lot of money. We're going to pull a lot of money together. I got John Hope Brown.

I did a speaking forum for him. And I'm going to have him. He's going to come on. And give us some. Man. I mean, just sit down and talk to him. He got his stuff together. Wait, who?

John Hope Brant. Okay, okay, okay. You probably see him. He got social media. He has a forum. And I'm talking about the big companies. I'm talking about the Salesforce, the Deltas, the Googles, everybody.

Right. And to invest in how you build your credit score and how you build a business and how you invest and watch it grow over time. That's how you create wealth and then generational wealth. And so we're

going to have this in 25, we're going to have him come on a couple of times and talk. And so hopefully people tune in and get some valuable insights of how to invest. Look, everybody, it's hard to accumulate wealth when you don't have money. Right. And we've got to stop the money that we have. If you have a car that's more valuable

than the money that you got in your savings account, there's a problem. Come on. That's a mofo problem. As he said, he was telling the story like look if your assets is on your ass that's a problem

hey that's a good one you know i'm saying don't joke and a lot of a lot of times people like bro how you driving up and and and and with a nice, you stay in an apartment. You got to understand, it's about image. It's about image. It's about looking to par. It's about looking as if you have it because if you look like you got it, then you're able to get

what it is you're attracting because when it comes to, everything is visual. Yes, we are visual. Think about social media. Everything is about visual. If I look like I got it, then I can attain some of the things that I'm attracted to.

It's easy. It's easy. You just got to look like it. Rent you a car, get you some nice clothes, put on some nice shoes, put you some chains on. Okay, he look like he got it. I'm going to keep the chains. Oh, Joe. Yeah.

Kyle Payne said, you and I sold our souls. Me? Shit. Shit. Well, you know how it is. Nah, nah, nah. I know he got it. He had the laughing emojis up there.

OK, OK. But yeah, but we're going to have him on to talk some financial literacy, you know, get money. And I said, Ash, uh, in 2015, I met this guy and this guy said, Shannon,

I want to give you an opportunity. Yeah. At the time, Bitcoin, he said, we can do like 10 coins. And because I know you, I'll let you have the coins for $250 a coin.

Uh-huh. You see how I'm sitting here tapping my fingers? Yeah. I paid the coins now, what, like $100,000 a coin? This was in 2015. Ocho, if I had to go ahead and do that, Ocho, go ahead and take it over. It ain't no more Uncle Ocho if I had to go Ocho go ahead take it over it ain't no more Unc and Ocho it's the Ocho show

Unc out of here I will hit one of these Ocho I will hit one of these I don't let a couple go I don't let Netflix you know what the funny thing about it is it only take this many times to hit. Yeah. I had a chance to get Netflix when it was $2.

Had an opportunity to get Google. Had an opportunity to get Bitcoin. I'm going to get one of these right one day, y'all. Now, I ain't going to tell y'all which one, but there'll be signs that Shannon came into a large sum of money. There will be signs that Shannon came into a large sum of money. There will be signs. Maybe it might be the farm of miniature cows

that I have. Maybe. I don't know what it is, but you... Man, you're down here on a farm with a thousand mini cows. A thousand?

Yeah. That, no, it all of a sudden, man, man, I heard Unk got some. Yeah, Unk got like 15 dogs now. So there'll be signs that Unk has come into a sum of money. I ain't going to say nothing. I ain't going to mention anything about it. But if you see me, that's what's going to happen. The volume.

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