Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: Lamont Roach Jr. joins + Sammy Sosa goes VIRAL

Episode Date: March 9, 2025

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Joining us now, brought to a majority draw Saturday night. It doesn't look like he's too pleased with that. There are a lot of people on social media that actually thought he won that fight. Joining us, Lamont Rose Jr. Lamont, how you doing, bro? What's up, man? I'm good, man. Thanks for having me. I feel real good. No, thanks for having me. Thanks for joining us.

Take us through Saturday night. You go into that fight, you move up five pounds, you're 135 and you move up. Everybody's that man that ain't know he got no chance. Tank told you a couple of days earlier he going, hey, you not going the distance. Y'all shake for a little bit,

250, whatever the case may be. You go into that fight, you know Tank's a slow starter, builds up as the fight progresses. You know he's trying to land, hook to the body, come up top with it. What was your process? What were you going into that fight? How did you want to fight, and did the fight turn out the way you thought it would? Well, honestly, yeah, the fight went exactly how we planned it to go, honestly.

You know, we're familiar with him. We've been familiar with him. the fight went exactly how we planned it to go, honestly. You know, we familiar with them. We've been familiar with them. We just knew it was a matter of time for everything to fall into play. And back to the whole everybody not giving me a shot, saying I'm going to get knocked out and all this and all that. I know what I'm capable of. I know what I'm capable of. And I know what I could do. Like they just in a nutshell, they have they had me totally messed up.

And especially when he bet me saying he's going to stop me. What do I do? I told him himself. I said, you tripping. I said, I don't know what got into your head these last couple of minutes, few days, whatever the case, you tripping. You know, you're not going to do that. I don't know why I told him this. I know, you you know you're not going to do that I don't even know why, I told him I said I know you know you're not going to do that cut it out yeah, hey listen, when you talk about

you're very familiar with them and I understand you and your team, you went into the fight with a game plan, is it familiarity, the fact that you guys probably trained together in the past or you've been in camp together in the past, you sparred together is that why you were so familiar and whatever game plan your team did have and were able to execute is that why it went so well i mean yeah it's one it's one of the many reasons why it

went so well um even though we were kids you know some of them traits, and just ways of a man grew with him. So, you know, some of the dirty tactics, I knew that he would revert to that when that pressure built up. When somebody that was there wasn't scared of him. When somebody that was there

did a return fire. You know what I'm saying? He ain't been in the ring in his professional career. He hasn't been in the ring with something like that or something like the caliber of what I got. Right. So what I thought, obviously, watching the fight, and when I look at all his team fights, most of the time, obviously

he starts slow. And then round five, six, he starts to pick it up a little bit. And by the time as he's picking it up, normally his opponent is deteriorating. The condition ain't where it's supposed to be. But I'm looking at you. They get to round six and seven and he coming forward and you ain't even you not even moving. So at that point, y'all mid range, you sit in the pocket.

And most of the time when he hits somebody, they retreat. But you get you took one to give one. I'm like, buddy he boy going at it? I'm like, so did the power not affect you in any way where you didn't really care? Were you just sat in the pocket with him in exchange? Because most of the time, I mean, you got to be cautious. You got to be cautious because when throwing punches,

you know, you got a chance to get hit, you know, when you letting go. Did you not care at all? Or did you feel his power early and really one word about it? It wasn't that I wasn't, I wasn't caring. It's, uh, I was cautious. Like you said, I was cautious, but the, but the defense, the defense is there. And the confidence was, was through the roof. Um, and I, I got a chin you keep a spade to spade. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like,

I see why he knocked people out um yeah i'm not gonna say the power is overrated but it i i've been in there with guys who can punch i mean like with guys who can punch so it's like it's nothing it was nothing new to me i've been in there with middleweight champions i've been in there with junior middleweight champions i mean like as they were champion in their prime and stuff like that. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like I was confident in what I could do defensively. And if I get hit, I know, I know I was right. Give it right back. Right.

So listen, in the ninth round, I'm sorry. You know, I, you know, I get excited about it. I don't mean to take over. Listen, Hey, young boy in the ninth round, you know, Javante took a knee. Obviously there's some controversy behind that. It wasn't ruled a knockdown by the referee. I've never seen that, ever.

And in my years of watching boxing and enjoying the sport of combat sports in general, did that moment impact your strategy for the remainder of the fight? I'm going to say no, and let me tell you why. The simple fact that he took the knee

Is Is It was really a boost Because it's like Alright what we doing is working We know that He looking for something It should have been a knockdown one

So that's why I'm yelling at the referee Keep counting That's a knockdown. Because if y'all didn't notice, he started to count. He started to count. He did. And then he stopped? He stopped. Okay. So when we

resume the action, I'm like, what you doing? Keep counting. Like, you can't do that. So, and then it wasn't even registering or processing through my mind the other rules to the simple fact that he could have got disqualified for having

his corner come up to the ring and assist him during the round or he can't do that or he can't turn his back on like during the fight that's that's the wave it all. He took a knee and then turned around and went to the corner.

Bradford usually stopped the fight. Oh, I didn't know that. I'm watching you. A lot of times when people hit tank, like Ocho was saying, they retreat. But it seemed like you had a strategy. Like if he hit me, I'm going to hit his ass back just as hard as many times as he hit me. And I don't think he expected you to return the kind of five that you returned

because you wobbled him a couple of times. And I'm not so sure that I've seen Tank wobble like when you caught him a couple of times and you was getting through the guard. I mean, hey, normally a softball fighter, that lead right is a home run right down Broad Street. And you kept touching him with it. For sure. It was one of the many things that we trained for.

Obviously, he happy-go-lucky with his left. And he'd been working for his whole career. He'd been knocking these dudes out. So, you know, we've been training. We've been sitting on the left, being able to – working on countering, working on, you know, being able to block and come back. And we had some pretty fast guys. And then we had some pretty strong guys that I had to, you know, switch rounds with every like, you know, every spawn. So, you know, we was ready. We was prepared. And like you said, them dudes wasn't really, really cracking him back.

And I was really throwing that fire at him. And the accuracy was really probably pissed them off too. And the fact that I was busy, it's like, all right, this ain't stopping. Yeah, I thought you did an unbelievable job of keeping the pace up. Like Ocho said, he's a guy that likes to start slow. So he has some energy reserve. So when he comes out from 5 through 12, he's like, I got a lot left. I know I ain't really spent no gas.

I just been coasting. I've been on electric mode. Now I got this fire. I got this gas in the tank I'm finna unleash. But you met fire with fire. And I've heard Floyd say that when he went into a fight, he never watched tape on the guy that he was fighting he left that up to his corner to watch

the fight and then tell him instructions he would take all that information and then once he got into the ring blah blah blah do you watch fight do you when you going against a fighter do you watch them or you leave that up to your corner to watch and then give you an instruction to what you should do I don't watch them a lot

I'm just. I just so happen to be a boxing fan that the fact that I do watch him fight. You know what I'm saying? I really like boxing. He's just somebody to watch. He's a spectacool. He's a knockout artist. Skilled guy. One of the better pound-for-pound fighters. I like watching

good fights. So I do know some of his tendencies, but to study him, not really. I left it up of his tendencies, but to study him, not really. I left it up to my dad, but one time, one day, like one day in camp, we did sit down and watch a few of his fights back to back.

Okay. Hey, listen, Tank has publicly expressed interest, obviously, in a rematch. You want a rematch as well. Are you open to an immediate rematch, or do you have a... You don't need a tune rematch as well are you open to immediate rematch or do you have a you don't need a tune-up but do you have a tune-up fight just to just to keep yourself going or do y'all y'all run it right back immediate and just to let y'all know like in in my contract immediate rematch was signed i signed for the immediate rematch when i signed

for the first fight just in case he lost or just in case it was a draw. So they put that clause in there. They put a rematch clause in there. So I already signed the rematch clause. Okay. So when you got a rematch clause, how long are we taking? How long is the break before you start training again? Is it six months from now?

It's up to the A-side and when they want to fight. So I'm thinking it's going to be soon So I'm thinking it's going to be soon. I'm hoping it's going to be soon. Let's say that. I mean, I'm saying from a boxing standpoint as a boxer, what is soon to you? I mean, when you say soon to me, I'm thinking a month.

I know that's not going to happen. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July for sure. Okay. But if I'm not mistaken, Lamar, I think I

read something that he reached out to Lomachenko's side and see if they were interested. Did you read that also? Did you see that? You can't believe everything you see. And if it is true, then that'd be funny. But I'm pretty sure

the rematch happens, and I'm pretty sure that's the next fight for both of us. But let me ask you this. Would you be interested? Go ahead. Would you be interested in fighting Lomo or Teofimo Lopez? Of course. Or me. Uh-oh.

Hold up, Chad. Hold up, Chad. Hey, put paws on it, LeBron. Put paws on it. Hey, Chad. Hey, I don't know if you've seen me fight Saturday. I rarely do this. Hey, I paws on it, LeVar. Put paws on it. Hey, Chad. I don't know if you're seeing me fight Saturday. I really do this. Hey, I was there.

I was there. Listen, I've been studying you for years. You hear me? Okay. Listen, I don't have the time, but I can tell you your tendencies right now, round one through seven. Okay. So if we was to get in there and spar right now,

I can tell you what you're going to do by looking at your feet. When you got your hand down by your hip, and you step forward, you're going to faint. You know what? I ain't going to need no more keys. But listen, I've been studying you. I know you. So if you want to spar at any point, if you get ready for the next fight. You're a southpaw, right?

I think I've seen you work. You're a southpaw, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got hands. He got no power, though. He got no power? He got pillows. He got pillows at the end of his arm. He ain't got no power, though. He got pillows at the end of his arm. He ain't got no power, Lamont.

Lamont, listen. No, no, no, cake blows. No, no, no, hey, Lamont, where I'm from, they call me hella hands. Yeah, they call me hella hands. But listen, reflecting on your performance, right, in that fight, bro, your game plan was phenomenal. Everything you did did you executed from round one all the way to 12 after you have a fight like that and you put on a show like that

what aspects i mean like what's how many how do you improve off of that because if they if you would agree your performance that night you get an a Yeah. So what do you go back and work on after putting on a goddamn show like that? Man, just going on. See, my thing is I always want to get better all the time, no matter if I do have a good performance or not. I just go back and I watch the tape and see what he do.

Obviously, whatever he come with the next one, we just got to still capitalize. We're going to add two or worse. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. We're going to add two. We're going to build. Might try to pick it up so we can see if we can get that starboard drill now.

You know what I'm saying? You never know. That's how you capitalize. Yeah. Your condition was on point, boy. Old school fighter, man. 15 round fighter over here, man. For real? For sure. I was in camps for 13, 14 rounds.

Wait, with time or no time? With time, for sure. With time. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. You know, I did 22 rounds. No clock. We're going to get you a camp. Maybe you can get me ready for the rematch. A matter of fact, bring me to camp. I ain't going to charge.

I ain't going to charge you. I give you four rounds. I let somebody else go forward and I come back for another exchange. No robbery. I like that. I bet man. Lamar, will you put pause on this man? Don't beat him up too bad because I need it. I like that. All right, Beck. Man, Lamar, will you put a pause on this,

man? Don't beat him up too bad because I need him. I need him for a nightcap. I don't want him to come back

talking about slurring. I don't want him to come back talking like a champ. He's going to be all right. I think he's going to be all right. Don't just give him

body blows. Don't hit him on his head, kid. Just give him body blows. I'm good. I'm good.

I'm good. My defense is my offense. I ain't going to get hit. Lamar, a lot of times when guys win and they get a rematch, they're like, well, I don't have anything to improve upon, and they run into a problem. Because you had a draw, can you go back and say, you know what? In this situation here, I should have did this instead of that,

and I might have been able to land something. Is that how you go back and approach the fight? Because you didn't get the win, and so you're like, well because you didn't get the win and so you're like well I didn't get the win I didn't lose technically but I didn't win either and I think as a fighter you know draws and ties that ain't what we do it for we want to be win we want to be on the top spot and because you didn't land on the top spot you feel that you know what go back and watch this fight through 12 rounds maybe if I pick it up through the first three or four rounds, maybe that's a round or two that I win,

and we don't even have this discussion at the end. Because it looked like they gave you round 12. Had you not won round 12, he would have won the fight. I should say it, honestly. So, to me, I thought I won the fight clearly. I thought I won a close fight. I thought I won a very competitive fight i don't i'm not saying i steamrolled him or whatever but uh to me i think i want to fight

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You look at it and like, okay, if you got a draw, more than likely you were supposed to win that night. So even though I didn't get to win, I'm not a moral victory guy. I'm pissed that I didn't win, honestly. Right, exactly. I'm pissed that I didn't win. But I really think that I should have. A lot of people think that I should have.

And the rematch is just going to make it worse for him because I got to rev it up. Like you said, I got to do something. I got to do something. I got to pick it up. Like you said, I got to do something. I got to do something. I got to pick it up somewhere to turn this around and make it a victory for me. Lamont, you're moving up from super featherweight to lightweight. Were you afraid that moving up might rob you of some of the power? Because, you know, normally guys that move up, they lose some of the sting. Were you

concerned about that? Are you going to stay at Super Feather? Are you looking to move up? Maybe go 135, 140, even higher. No. One thing that 135 gave me is a lot more sting. I ain't going to lie. It was five less pounds I had to lose. So what do you

normally walk around at, Lamont? Normally I want to say especially if I'm in the gym, I walk, I felt. So what do you normally walk around at, Lamont? Normally, I want to say. 50, 55? Especially if I'm in the gym. No, no, no. I walk around like 150. Somewhere around 150, 149 on a good day. If I'm on vacation, I don't get no higher than 55.

Okay. Okay. So I think that works. I think that's one of the things that helped Floyd Mayweather because Floyd is not a naturally big man. So it was easy for him to stay at 147 because Floyd only walking around at like 155 to begin with. So he go for six, eight weeks.

He lose five pounds. That's his sweet spot. For sure. For sure. And that's another thing with you. It's not like you're walking around 165, 160, 165, and you got to strip down 35, 30 pounds. You're only having to come down 10, maybe even 15 pounds at a max.

So that's not that drastic when you see these guys have to go through this massive dehydration in order to make weight because, man, you keep doing that fluctuating your body, man. It takes something out of you, man. you definitely take a toll on you for sure hey listen after a fight like this how much time do y'all take off like i mean before you get back in and gradually just start building yourself back not only in the shape but just making sure you don't lose that rhythm and consistency oh it's tough, man, especially how boxing is today.

That's more so like a personal. So me, personally, I don't like being out of the gym too long. I get cussed out by my doctor because he tells me to take a break. And I understand because your body do need to heal, rest. I've been through an eight-week

training camp and then went through a hard 12-round fight. You've got to get your body do need to heal, rest. I've been through an eight-week training camp and then went through a hard 12-round fight. You got to get your body together. Take some time off because when you peak and you peak at the right time, and I think I peaked at the perfect time on Saturday night, it

depletes you. I get a little rest. I get a little rest probably like two weeks. I want to be back in the gym. One, because I probably get too heavy and I don't feel right. Right, you don't feel right. I be bored. I normally be in the gym.

That's how I go. Where you live at? I live in D.C. Okay, okay. I'll make a little trip down there, man. Whenever you get back in the gym and you want to start sparring, I'm going to come down there and I got a little... I'm a bad

man, Chad. I don't know. I know. I'm a bad man, too. That's why my teacher called me when I was in high school. Listen, I got a little bet for you, right? We're going to do eight rounds, right? We're going to do eight rounds? Yeah, we're going to do eight. If you can beat me at least four

rounds. Now, you know LeBron James, he just scored 50,000 points, right? He sent me the ball. If you can beat me, if you can win more rounds than me, I'll send you this ball he gave me to put up. I'm gonna call my dad right now. We can set that up. We gonna set that up.

You gonna take that ball up? You to set that up. Milestone. We're going to set that up for sure. You're going to take that ball up on him? You're going to get that ball up on him? Okay. Right on top of the belt. Okay. Matter of fact, I'm going to make it easy for you. I'm only using my jab hand. Oh, man.

You're giving it away. Nah. I mean, listen. I can take what I'm doing and still win. That's what I do. I told you they called me hell of a hand. I'm telling you, you're giving the prize away. Bron ain't going to like that. Oh, nah. You ain'm going to do and still win. That's what I do. I told you they called me you giving the prize away. Bron ain't going to like that.

Oh, no, you ain't going to get that. You think I'm going to lose you and lose that ball? For sure. The devil is alive. Hey, let me ask you this, Lamont. After the tank fight, who would you like to fight after tank?

Are you going to stay? If you go back, if you going to go are you going to stay if you go back if you rematch you beat Tank at 135 are you going to stay at 135 or slide back down to 130 or go up even to 140?

It depends on what's available. If the champions at 35 are available I want to fight them. I want to unify obviously. That's good for my career.

It's like legacy fights, and on top of that, they're big money fights. If they're not available, I would go definitely defend my title at 30 and probably try to unify there because I can make 30 comfortably and I feel

like I run that division. I probably can even go undisputed if they let me. That's loud. Lamar, being a student of the game, I know you heard your dad. You weren't around there. But I know your dad has told you or whomever in your corner about the four kings. Hearns, Hagler, Durant, Leonard. And how they fought each other.

And all the top contenders in that, they fought them. You go back to the 70s, you look at the heavyweights, they fought Norton, fought Ali, he fought Frazier, he fought Shavers, he fought Ali. Nobody ducked. Why is it now, Lamont, that we have guys and they want to cherry pick and don't want to take... It seems like, and I love

Floyd, but Floyd, that 50-0, because nobody wants to take an ass-whipping now because now they feel like my legacy is ruined. I lost the fight. Some of the great fighters, we don't look at Ali because he lost three or four times, even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Burbick or Larry Holmes. We don't look at Ali because he lost three or four times, even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Burbick or Larry Holmes.

We don't hold that against him. We don't hold it against Leonard. We don't hold it against Hagler. We don't hold it against Hearns. We don't hold it against nobody. I don't know and I hate that. I love Floyd and I'm glad he's undefeated, but everybody thinks now if I be undefeated, I'm going to be revered like Floyd

and it's not going to happen. It ain't. Floyd is one of a kind going to happen. It ain't. Floyd is one of a kind fighter, man. Even if a lot of people do go undefeated and retire undefeated, it's not going to be the same. And it's not going to be the same because

Floyd put it in his word. Floyd fought them guys when he was able to. He fought them guys when he was able to. He fought everybody. He fought them guys. He earned the right to fight who he wanted to, when he wanted to, whatever the case may be.

That's just a once-in-a-lifetime fighter. I don't know why the guys are not... Maybe I do. I'm going to give you a little scoop. These guys are worried about the money that they can make if they still have an O on their record. They think that a blemish would knock down the

value of whatever they have in their contract or whatever they have presented to them, which is crazy to me i think if you put on a good enough fight no matter if you win or lose the performance is what matters and it's it's really what matters so people gonna pay to see you fight if you fight the good fights that's what that's what they're gonna pay to see that's they're gonna pay to see it that's why pay-per-view numbers used to be so high because people are going to pay. They want to see certain fights. They want to

see them fight. Look at Mickey Ward and Arturo Gotti. That was jam-packed. Laws didn't matter. People still pay big money to see that because they know they were going to get action. But now, Lamont, guys, you know what?

Yeah, if I fought Lamont, I can make 15 mil, but if I fight this guy that I know I can whip, I can make 10. So why take the chance for an extra five when I can get this can over here and I can whip him for 10? So I just get me a couple, I get me five or 10, I get me five or 10

of these 10 million dollar fight, why would I need to take a risk for two of those big fights? Nah, I ain't gonna do that. But then got to think about that lamar i told on the other night we talked about this too right not only do certain people not want to take risks but you want to build it up until you get to the really really good fight so if you got like you talk about the four the four kings back then back in the day right and today's if you got the best boxes right and if all the best boxes fight each other right now and not have fight after fight after fight and actually build it so people want to actually

actually want to watch and you can maximize your your pay that's a little different think about how long before earl and bud actually for yeah look how long it took look how many fights they had because there was a build-up to it So from that standpoint, I kind of get it and understand. You want to maximize your pay. You also, nobody wants to lose. But at some point, they ain't going to have no choice but to fight each other. Ocho, you got to understand that. The timing got to be right.

But think about it. And Lamont, you know this. Sugar Ray went to 160 to flag Hagler. He definitely did. He definitely did. He definitely did. He didn't come down. They went to him. They did.

And you're talking about guys that's very similar, 130, 135. They went up two – Sugar Ray was 147, went to 160. Hagler – or Hearns was 147, went to 160. He definitely right about that. That's middleweight. Ray and Durant started at 35. Come on.

You were that small? One of the best lightweights to ever do it. Yeah. A lot of those guys started there. Ocho. 30, 35, Floyd. 30, 35, 40, 47, guys started yes a lot of those guys started there uh ocho 30 35 fort floyd 30 35 40 47 and fort uh uh day la jolla 54 yeah oh yeah a lot of them guys yeah and have pacquiao's an anomaly pacquiao started at like 106 112 and blew through and blew through everything

eight division champion. And still knocking them out. You're not going to see that. Even when you look at Armstrong, you look at all those guys, nobody's doing this again. Nobody's going to do that. Yeah. I mean, basically, you'd have to start at, say,

you'd have to start at like 140 and go to heavyweight to try to clean out everything. And that ain't happening. At all. I mean, Roy was an anomaly. Because Roy went from 60 to 68. 10 years straight. Middleweight, heavyweight.

Roy was. If Roy had Roy just stayed there and not stripped the muscle that he put on to go to heavy, because I think that took a lot out of him. That took too much out of him. He probably should have stayed. He probably should have never come back down or just took his time. But Roy won the title, couldn't get nobody else to fight, gave the

title up and came back down. And he wasn't the same after Tarver beat him that one time. He was never the same because he got started getting beat by fighters that Roy would have mopped the floor inside of five rounds with him. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So what's next, Tank?

I mean, excuse me. What's next, Lamont? What's next? After this Tank fight, you say you want to fight whoever the big money fighter is. Who? Hey, Lomo, Teofimo, Haney, Garcia, whoever. The champs at 135 right now are Shaquille, Keyshawn Davis, and Loma Chinko. Okay. That's who we're going to be looking at after I beat Tank in the rematch.

If them guys ain't available, then we're going to go to 30 and defend my 130-pound championship. So listen, out of those three you just named, who would you prefer to fight first? If you can't get all three, if you had a preference. If I had a preference? I don't really got a preference. I would put a blindfold on and pick whichever one. It don't matter.

Whatever I'm talking about, you talking. Hey, tell Lamar whoever want this ass whipping. That's who I want. Who want this ass whipping? For sure. As a matter of fact, I tell you what. I tell you what. Lomo, you gonna get it first. So you gonna get it after

I get tanked. When I get tanked, I'm gonna get you at the first in here. Hey, Shakur, I'm gonna come see you in July. Hey, Keyshawn Davis, hey, at the end of the year on 27, I got you ass whipping too. Sound good to me. Sound real good. Hey, man, I appreciate it. I got you asked. Sound good to me. Yeah. Sound real good.

Hey man, I appreciate it. Congratulations. Great fight. It wasn't the outcome that you had hoped for because you trained for eight weeks, had a great camp and you put the time in to win. It didn't go his way, but who knows what's going to happen? July, August, when the next fight come around, wish you the best. And guess what? Come back and join us again when the fight happens. We'll see what happens after that, Lamar. Appreciate it.

Will do. Thank you, man. I appreciate both of y'all. All right, bro. I'm going to see you in D.C. No doubt. Yeah, get my contact. We'll bring you out for sure.

All right, man. Hey, body, because he need to talk. I don't want to. You know? Yeah, that's what I want you to do. Yeah, yeah. That's what I want you to do. That's what I want you to do. Yeah, yeah. That's what I want you to do.

That's what I want you to hit with. Yeah, I got it. I'll make sure I record it too. We'll have it on the nightcap. That's what I need you to do. Record it. All right, all right, all right. All right, man. Appreciate that, LeVon.

Have a good one, bro. Thank you all, man. A quarterback coach from a team drafted in the top seven referred to Shador Sanders as brash and arrogant in his team interview. Josina Anderson posted a very lengthy, interesting post. I'm not going to read it all, but you guys can see it. Here we go with this again, Ocho. That's what you want from your quarterback.

Listen, don't change. You know who else is brash? Can I tell you one quarterback who is brash, especially come out of college, with the way he plays, the way he carried himself? By the name of Baker Mayfield. He went number one, too. Number eight. Baker Mayfield was trash. Cam.

Cam, brash. You know who else was brash? Johnny Manziel was brash. Now, all of a sudden, there's a problem with having confidence in yourself. It's not brash. It's about having confidence. there's a problem with having confidence in yourself he's not brash is about having confidence it's believing in yourself and believing in the work that you've already put in the resume speaks for itself turn on the film there's a reason he's talking the way he's talking I believe I can come in to change the franchise how was that brass for

feeling that way if you're not serious about changing your franchise and having a franchise changing quarterback i'm not the one for you what's wrong with saying that when that's exactly what the teams are looking for someone with that type of confidence not soft spoken you are a leader of men coming in as a rookie to change the franchise you You have to be. What are we talking about? Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, everything that he said, everything that this coach said,

that he's brash and he's arrogant, can he play? That's all that. Can he play football? He's a football player. He's not into politics because in politics you need to be likable that's why people will vote for you in this situation can he play football okay what are does he have any issues off the field do you worry about having to have your phone on ring the entire night are you worried about hey if you see my player here give me a call watch out for him is there any such thing

that you need to worry about his dad was brash i'm confused at the end of the day can the guy play football can the guy if you want a politician if you want a a Cub Scout someone that's going to be in the church okay fine I get that

I want a football player I want him to have good character I don't care about the brashness I don't care about all that stuff I don't want him to have good character. I don't care about the brashness. I don't care about all that stuff. I don't want him to get in trouble off the field, although I understand that young kids will make mistakes because I was young. So I'm not here to condemn

for a first-time mistake. I just don't want to see a repeat offender. That's what gets, that's what I get upset about, repeat offenders. But I don't have no problem with Shador. I don't have no problem with any guy. If that's what we're talking about, that's what gets, that's what, that's what I get upset about repeat offenders, but I don't have no problem with your door. I don't have no problem with any guy. If that's what, if that's what we're talking about, that's what we're about here. Now you have to understand a lot of times,

we brag because we had to, Hey, we, a lot of times we were playing against people that were bigger than us, older than us. And we did some good, we had to let them know. That's how we grew up. Every time. Every time. But listen, I understand, obviously,

especially at the quarterback position, they want you to be and conduct yourself a certain way. They want you to be Tom Brady's, the Peyton Manning's, the Drew Brees's. They want to you to be and conduct yourself a certain way they want you to be tom brady's the paid man the drew breezes they want to lump everybody in the same category you have to be a robot you have to be politically correct you have to know how to talk you have to know how to answer questions you have to know how to keep things in house you have to know how to fall on the sword when things don't go well you got it go well, you put the blame on yourself.

No, it's me. It all starts with me offensively. I have to play better. You know, when you win, we won. You give Gary credit to everybody. When you lose, you take the blame. That's the part about being a quarterback. That's the ownership.

That's the ownership that one has to have. Ocho, this is what Jacinda Anderson's second paragraph. According to league sources, said quarterback coach seems to have. Ocho, this is what Jacinda Anderson's second paragraph. According to league sources, quarterback coach seems to have an issue with the culture of athletes who have broad fame and financial success before entering the NFL, and their opinions

appears to have them a problem with certain athletes. I'll leave it at that. This is how the pre-draft evaluations can get jacked because the evaluators don't seemingly possess the discernment to detect intangible traits that are connected to the will and drive to win without being a stat or delineate it in an analytic report. I mean, if you're not familiar with said culture, see, somebody from a different culture,

somebody from the Asian culture or the Jewish culture, I couldn't. But I know my culture. I know how we talk. That man, think about it. And I've always said that you've heard me say this numerous times, Chad. What I respect so much about guys that parents that had money, his dad is tired. He said, no, I want your money.

I want to do it myself. Peyton Manning, parents have money. He said, no, I want to do this myself. Bronny James' dad is LeBron James. He said, nah, I want to do this myself. Bronnie James' dad is LeBron James. He said, nah, dad. Let me put the time in. That says something

because a lot of times we see people, kids of famous or well-to-do, they don't have that kind of drive. It takes a special type of person to go up living in an ivory tower with mink slippers and silk pajamas

and say, hey, I want to get out of the mud like my dad or like my mom did. Everybody ain't wired like that. I got to. Push your door. And his dad did everything. He put him in the right situation, had great coaches, had a cultivated relationship with Tom.

Tom would talk to his doer, probably check them out on film, probably work with him. What's wrong with that? Wouldn't we, if every parent could be in a position to make sure their kid got the best, the best teachers, the best coaches, the best physios, would he or she not do that for their child? Absolutely. That's the whole point.

That's the whole point in being a parent, being a father, being a mother. That's what you want to do. I'm confused. It goes without saying. But just for the sake of argument argument you have the other side that creates stuff like this they don't care oh he's not conducting himself the way the way we feel that's your kid you didn't raise it can he play oh i love it i love it i don't think i don't think there'll be a situation

that he's gonna to get in trouble. He seemed very level-headed to me. I know he's going to be level-headed because I know his dad. I know his dad extremely well. And his dad jokes around, but they know he no nonsense. They know he no nonsense. That's when it's time for business. When it's time for business and perfecting your craft

and getting better at your craft, putting in the work, the homework, the studying, the training. How many times have you heard time say, I'm two things. I'm coaching dad, but I'm dad first. Make no mistake about that. His kids are very, very of the utmost importance to him. He's always

been this way. Y'all think he's this is time. This is who he is. Now, he behaves a little different when he's on the phone with me. But he, I don't get it.

But you know what, Ocho? Hey. I guess I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't. Bucky Brooks responded. Thanks for sharing, Jashina. Every year we watch high-profile quarterbacks deal with this nonsense. No one expects your door standards to be a perfect fit for every coach and organization, but the unnecessary character attacks by NFL personnel and some media members

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You ain't finna get away with that one. Hold on now. All right, somebody just throw up. Come on now. You know, I travel with that now. I got all this stuff here. Perception is a person's reality. But perception is not always the truth.

Oh. Where you in your bag? Wait a minute. Perception is not always the truth it's uh look he's been dealing with this his whole life because guess what he's been Deion Sanders son

he's been dealing with this his whole life he's going to deal with it for the rest of his life no matter what occupation that precedes him for the longest time and I still get it I'm Sterling Sharpe's little brother

they be in the I'm Sterling Sharp's little brother. They be in the airport, hey, Sterling. I said, bro, you loud and wrong. Yeah. But you're close. You with that boy now. Yeah. I just, hey, when they call me Sterling, I just, yeah, yeah.

You play for Green Bay? No, I play for Denver. Oh, yeah, that's right. You the one that play with Favre? No, I play with Elway. But, I play for Denver. Oh yeah, that's right. You the one that play with Favre. No, I play with Elway. But okay, but go ahead. Keep it going. Hey, they used to be used to.

They still do. I like, bro. Ocho, and guess what they tell me? Man, y'all don't look nothing alike. I say he my brother, not my dad. What the hell? You know, people today still, most of the time as women,

it's very funny. Obviously, they're fans of me, and they confuse me and T.O. all the time. Sometimes they miss. I'm not sure how you mistake me for T.O. T.O. is about two inches taller, and he got about 40 pounds on me. He's 6'3", about 230.

Like, I mean, I'm confused now, you know. I'm one good-looking brother. I'm one good-looking brother. Now, I'm not saying my brother from another mother is ugly or nothing, but he don't look like this. So I'm not sure how you can do it. Now, my sister and I, we look alike.

You look at my sister and you tell, okay, they brother and sister. My brother looks just like my mom. Me and my sister look like my dad. But it's okay. But I understood that growing up, imagine, I got a brother that's three years older. So I'm a freshman. He's a senior.

He's good at everything. Naturally. Bro, you ain't going to be like your brother. You can't run your brother. Okay. I don't like that. That ain't no motivation, though. You know, hearing that ain't no motivation. Let me tell you something.

What you think Shador had to deal with? Being at Jackson State. Well, I can't do that. You can't do that. Well, maybe you can do that at the HBCU level but you can't do it at the UWI so he goes to Colorado you know he gets done there what do you say you still hearing all the chirps

and the terms and all the negativity now draft process you showing your confidence based on the work that you've been putting in for who knows how long now they're telling you to change because they don't like the way you conduct yourself because you believe in yourself you have confidence we talked about travis hunter

in his comparison to playing both ways in nfl comparing it to shea ohtani what are we talking about what are we talking about it's okay that's about? It's okay. That's the confidence. That's what you need to be great at whatever it is you do. It doesn't even have to be sports. It doesn't have to be football. But the kind of confidence that Shadur has, the kind of confidence that Travis Hunter has, it's okay to be like that.

Because that type of confidence is what had driven them to the point where they are in life. Because guess what? So he went to HBCU, he lit it up. Oh, he should. He went to HBCU he lit it up oh he should he had an HBCU he go to Colorado he lights it up oh we conference you see I can't win I can't win how does he win how does he win he goes to an HBCU does what he does you say the level of competition now he goes to an HBCU, does what he does. You say the level of competition. Now he goes to a D1, and now you say, well, the conference was weak. Now, when he gets to the NFL, I wonder what's going to be the excuse then when he comes in and actually changes the franchise around.

Same thing with Cam Ward. Cam Ward's a little different. Cam Ward's approach to the game and the way he conducts himself is a little different. Everybody's personality is different. Everybody's personality is different. They're not all going to be the same. Yeah, I wasn't quiet. So don't expect me to be TV.

Because I show up. Listen, I wasn't. I'm joking. I'm going to talk. I'm going to talk it and walk it. I'm going to talk it and walk it. I'm going to talk it and walk it. Yes. Quinn Ewers says he is the best quarterback in the draft over Cammy Shadur.

I think I'm the best in the class and the most ready for the NFL because of what I've been through. I think I'm the most ready for the situations that occur in the NFL, injuries, playing through tough injuries, having a big name behind you, I've been through. I think I'm the most ready for the situations that occur in the NFL. Injuries, playing through tough injuries, having a big name behind you, continue to play through that amount of pressure, continue to be confident after being benched. It's hard to do. I matured a lot, and then all the

injuries I had to deal with and come back from, I wouldn't trade it. It's the reality of the position. Stuff's going to go wrong, and I have a plan of attack for pretty much any situation that can arise. I like it. See, there we go. Confidence again. He's spewing

it in a different light. He's spewing the same type of confidence and brashness that they're talking about that Shadur did, but he's just spinning it a different way. In his history, his past experience on telling you why he's available as the best

player ahead of the two that might be in front of him. That's very brash. Why are you telling us that? Same thing. The delivery is just different. Every player in the draft believe they're the best player in the draft.

He did go through a lot. He went to Ohio State, couldn't get on the field. He leaves and go to Texas. He came with much fanfare, got booed, they wanted Arch. Yeah, he had to play through injuries. Yeah, he's gone through a lot. Yeah, you have to. I mean, you have to be resilient.

You have to be able to compartmentalize. They're going to love you one week, hate you the next, but you have to have a strong belief in yourself, Ocho. That's the number one thing. Never let them take your confidence. Even all the boos, even if you get benched,

you made it this far. You made it this far to give up, to quit because now you have a little bit more adversity than you've ever gone through? Nah. You take a toll on your mental, too. You take a toll on your mental when you give up. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Especially at the quarterback position? Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Well, I wish Mr. Ewers the best of luck. oh my goodness well I wish Mr. Ewers the best of luck oh Joe a fan posted a picture of with Sammy Sosa this weekend and it's gone viral

where the hell it go viral yes Sammy oh you're trying to say which one Sammy no wait Sammy got on the phone Yeah. Oh, you're trying to say which one Sammy? No. Wait, Sammy got on Clubhouse? Oh, yeah. No, they say Sammy, he black again. Yeah.

I saw that earlier. I thought somebody played around and Photoshopped a picture. Because how do you go from bleaching your skin to being black again? Man, Sammy look like them a little like the Williams brother the white chick yeah I think listen once you stop bleaching yourself then you're then your normal pigmentation come back? Not if you bleach it too much. No.

He was probably on that Ambi, that Ultra, that Esoterica. You don't remember them bleaching creams. They used to be bleaching creams. Hey, anybody my age or older know about them bleaching creams? There was Ultra, there was Ambi, there was Noxzema, and there was Esoterica. Anybody know about them? I know all this stuff. You know? was not Zima and there's esoteric anybody nobody you know I mean I would

like it was a prototype oh Joe okay, okay, okay, okay. I've been black my whole life, even when it wasn't popular back in the 80s. Because back then it wasn't popular at all, little Joe. It wasn't popular till the 90s when Michael Jordan hit, Wesley Snipes hit. Because you had the DeBarge brothers, you had L and Chico DeBarge. You had Al B. you had all the all them brother with the good hair and skin yeah so nah i've i've been black by popular demand since 68 same same same since 72 glad to have you back Sammy

Ocho granny says don't come back over unless you bring him back her containers my grandma said don't bother coming over if you don't bring back her containers granny don't play by that Tupperware now you talk about Tupperware yeah somebody took my Tupperware and just want to take their time it just

oh they didn't bring your Tupperware and just want to take their time. It just. Oh, they didn't bring your Tupperware back? They did after a couple of months. You know I got it. Yeah, I know you got it, but I want it. What, I'm going to put my food in my hands? So you want me to store my food like this and put my hands in the freezer? My grandma ain't play about her Tupperware, boy. I ain't with that.

She ain't play about it. And she got to I ain't with that y'all. She ain't play by that. And she got to use it to take her lunch to the work man, and please. Man, we just put, we have no Tupperware like that man. We put aluminum foil on top of everything. We had no leads. Hey, y'all, maybe y'all did. We have no leads in the 70s and 80s food just be all out or you put lumen and fall over the top of it I bet you have I bet you

didn't you didn't keep your grease in the end I in the corner and the coffee that Maxwell right on the right on the stove oh yeah we don't we don't live the same life hey I that hey I like I said I don't know about I ain't nobody no Tupperware a we have no Tupperware I mean we had you know our drinking glass was old great junk with a great jelly jar a mayonnaise jar you know hot water and scrape the thing off the side of it. You ain't buy no drinking glasses. Same. Same.

Same. Yep. Remember those things. Like I said, I ain't know nothing about this until I got to – until I was in the NFL. I ain't know nothing about no Tupperware. I heard people mention it, but we didn't have that. Like I said, my grandma put aluminum –

Hey, cover that dish, boy. Aluminum foil, cover it up. Hey, I'm just thinking about breakfast, man, back in them days. I don't know if you know Quaker Oats. Quaker Oats Oatmeal. Listen, I remember my granddaddy, man, either I asked for two things for breakfast.

I ate that Quaker Oats Oatmeal or Cream of Wheat. I don't know if you remember Cream of Wheat. And he would use the evaporated milk that comes in the white can. I didn't know you weren't supposed to drink that milk. I didn't know you weren't supposed to drink it. I didn't know that you supposed... It blends. You make

cakes and stuff with that. I didn't know you weren't supposed to drink it. But I was wondering me and my brothers were wondering like, man, why every time we drink this milk, our stomach be tore up it's too damn thick I don't know what about yeah that's all we had hey we get some get some water in that can milk yeah my grandma's a boy drink some okay below today now and uh it had to, the milk had to be really small. I mean, it almost had to be clabbered.

You know what clabbering is? Like it's coagulated. Now, if it was like that, we wouldn't drink it. But, hey, if it's just a little smell, oh, you got to go into cereal. You got to go on up in here. Hey, my girl, you be okay, boy. They do. But yeah, my grandma wouldn't.

Hey, you're going to be toting the dish out there with aluminum foil over. You won't get no Tupperware. So you were good. The Volume. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi. We dive into the competitive world of streaming.

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The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Iran Contra on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.