Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: LeBron reaches 50k points, Kyrie tears ACL, Mavs fans upset

Episode Date: March 8, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Lakers star LeBron James reaching 50k points scored, Kyrie Irving tearing his ACL, the Mavericks raising ticket prices, and more!03:52 ...- LeBron reaches 50,000 points07:00 - Kevin Durant and Coach Bud get into it19:27 - Jeanie Buss says Anthony Davis wasn’t happy25:44 - Kyrie Irving suffers injury31:00 - Mavericks set to raise season ticket prices42:50 - Lamelo Ball could be traded this season(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:38 It just goes to show you, can you imagine if LeBron, because Luka is really the only guy that LeBron has truly trusted to have the ball exclusively in his hands. Yes, sir. Now, we go back and say,
Starting point is 00:03:55 you know what? If LeBron had somebody he trusted, and he didn't have to have the rock in his hand, and he can do what he's doing now. Spot up. He can get to the high he can get to the high point the high pick and roll or he could whatever he can slash he can cut you see what he's doing at 40 oh yeah so imagine LeBron at 25 and 30 and he has a Luca that he doesn't have to worry about sitting him up he doesn't have to worry about uh uh running the
Starting point is 00:04:23 offense Luca can do everything that LeBron does, and LeBron gets to focus on just this. Yes, yes. What do you think his numbers would have been? So now he doesn't have to worry about facilitating. Now his assist total might be a little lower because he's not going to have the ball in his hand primarily. That's going to go to Luka.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Right. But you see scoring and the percentage in which he's shooting. Go back and look at since Luka's arrived. Look at his three-point field goal percentage. Look at his field goal percentage. Look at his point total. That's crazy. Everything has
Starting point is 00:04:57 increased because you know what? A lot has been taken off of his plate, Ocho. He doesn't have to worry about facilitating for everybody. He doesn't have to worry about facilitating for everybody. He doesn't have to worry about all that other stuff. He can just say, Luka, you have that. Let me get like three runouts a game.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Right. Let me get a couple of dives to the baskets. I hit a couple of threes. Hell, that damn near 20 right there. But it's been unbelievable to watch. Yeah. And like I said, I'm old enough to remember a lot of the great players i saw magic never saw i saw magic in person one but most of the time i mean to see bird and magic and akim and all these great players and now the steph courage the kds and
Starting point is 00:05:37 all that stuff to see these guys play um lebron colby shot uh I don't think we're going to see somebody else get 50,000, Ocho. I really don't. 50,000 right here, Shaq. And plus, Ocho, here's what we're saying. We're under the assumption, huh? We're under the assumption that he stops playing. Who's to say this thing is not going to be 52, 53,000? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:02 He can keep going, especially with Luka at the helm now. You know, Luka could take all the pressure off the clock. Oh, he could easily play another 2-3. Oh,000. Yeah. He can keep going, especially with Luka at the helm now. You know, Luka could take all the pressure off the clock. Oh, he could easily play another two, three. Oh, yeah. He could easily play another two to three years. Yeah. The question is, he says keeping his mind sharp because he's been soldiered that routine.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And I don't believe Savannah is putting the pressure on like, hey, baby, you need to come home, blah, blah, blah. You got to come home, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, no, because you're like, hey, bro, I know what you like when you home. You're going to be moody as hell. So I can see LeBron legitimately, Ocho, I can see him playing another two to three years. And I wouldn't be surprised if that were to happen.
Starting point is 00:06:46 But at the level that he's playing at, he's playing at a extremely high level. And it's great to see. Ocho, Kevin Durant and Coach Bud got into it last night. Check this interaction out, Ocho. During the time out early in the game, Coach Bud and Hoser grabbed KD's arm in an apparent attempt to pull him in for a conversation. But KD pulled his arm away. Then they engaged in a brief animated conversation before parting ways.
Starting point is 00:07:09 KD spoke about it after the game. Let's take a listen to what KD had to say. Yeah, that's what usually happens when you don't know the dynamics of a relationship. You know, you catch something on TV, you get a quote, and now you're pushing that narrative as if me and Bud don't do that shit all the time. We're competitive as two individuals who want to see things done the right way. And sometimes my way ain't the way that Bud want to do it and vice versa. And he allows me as a player on the team, a veteran on the team,
Starting point is 00:07:37 a voice of my team, if we both didn't care, we would never have stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? And I'm glad that the wind is gonna sweep all that stupid stuff under the rug, cause they couldn't, people couldn't wait. Even some people in Phoenix in here couldn't wait to run with that, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:53 And so, this is the reason why the team ain't playing well, cause of that specific thing. But come on, man. That shows that me and Bud really care about trying to right this shit and trying to win basketball games. So, he understands where I'm coming from. I understand exactly where he's coming from. It's just people on the outside don't know the dynamics of the
Starting point is 00:08:10 relationship. So, you know, in order for them to get some attention, they're going to run with stuff like that. You heard it. Yeah. He says, hey, sometimes I see things one way, but I don't see it that way. Sometimes Bud see things one way, I don't see it that way. Sometimes Buds see things one way, I don't see it that way.
Starting point is 00:08:25 We have a difference of opinions. Hey, he cares, I care. We trying to get this shit righted. he's right. I mean, look, that's never happened before. I've seen coaches and players, they shove each other, they all can yell, curse, all that kind of stuff. It happens. You get
Starting point is 00:08:44 two animated testosterone testosterone driven men that i believe what i'm saying is right he believes what he's saying is right two people can't be right maybe hey two things can be true maybe you're right and maybe he's right but at that point in time we don't see it that way i want you to see my point of view right bro i need you to see my point of view right Right. Nah, bro, I need you to see my point of view. Right. But I don't know what happened,
Starting point is 00:09:08 but I know KD went crazy in the fourth quarter and they was down 23 and they won the game. That's what I do know. Listen, the funny thing about it with the Suns,
Starting point is 00:09:16 listen, when you're losing, everything is magnified. When you're losing the way they are, even though they won that specific game, everything is magnified.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Unless you played organized sports in a structured environment, you'll never understand that dynamic. You'll never understand it. That goes on all the time, especially when it comes to a player of that magnitude that's great and you have a coach and the coach wants to see you do your best, or if you're not playing to your full potential, they're going to get on you just like that. Yep. That happens not just at the elite level with NBA players, NFL players. It starts even when you're young. The problem that you got to worry about
Starting point is 00:09:53 is when you have a coach that cares about you and he stops talking to you and he doesn't try to correct you. He's not on your head and trying to get you to do things the right way. That means he doesn't care. so what I see as a former athlete stuff like that happen it resonates with me because I've been in that situation before where Hugh Jackson getting on me on the sideline of course because
Starting point is 00:10:16 I'm trying my hardest I fire back you know I talk back a little bit but you know Hugh man Hugh will grab me by the neck man don't play at me. Yeah. Not today. You're from Carleton. Hey, you don't play. You know? Man, you a damn fool.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You good people, but you good people. I like you. But you know what, Ochoa, you're right. You're absolutely right with a lot of times,
Starting point is 00:10:40 like, you know, in the heat of the battle, you forget. Yeah. Man, I shouldn't do this in front of all these people because there's 70,000 to 80,000 people watching and there's cameras everywhere.
Starting point is 00:10:50 You forget sometimes, though. You do forget. You absolutely forget. I always try to be mindful. You know, hey, let's get this behind closed door. I'm just going to give you a look. You mean like that look you gave me when you thought I was late on first
Starting point is 00:11:07 day? Hey, hey, hey, nah. That was like coaches like, hey, bro, look here. I won't allow you to say anything to me Mary Porter didn't say. Right. Mary Porter ain't never called me no mofo. She ain't never called me
Starting point is 00:11:25 no SOB. So now if you think you can call me that, now you know what? I'm going to take this uniform off. I'm going to whip your ass because I know I ain't going to be here. But all that stupid you know what? I don't play that.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Mm-mm. Nah, give me that because nah. I don't play like that Mm-mm. Nah, give me that. Because, uh, nah. I don't play like that, Ocho. I don't. So, we had, hey, we just had a great understanding. Hey, bro, don't, hey, come on now. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I ain't your kid. I got kids. You got kids. I got kids. You just can't talk to me any kind of way. You got to do it the right way. Trust me. Tell me what I did wrong. I'm not going to make that same mistake twice. But you're not going to call me dumb, you know, you stupid.
Starting point is 00:12:16 No, no, no. I can't get that like that. I ain't fit to hold you. Y'all can talk about sensitive all you want to, but I'm big. I'm huge on respect. Respect, yeah. I give it to everybody. I believe every man or woman deserves a certain level of respect.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah. Now, when that level of respect dissipates, it's best that you and I go our separate ways. That's okay. We don't – look, we, and then sometimes, Ocho, like, when you're on a team, you ain't gonna get along with everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Hey, you do your thing, I'm gonna do my thing on this field. Wah, wah, wah, wah. Hey, when the whistle blows, time to go our certain ways. Yeah. Walk up out in the locker room, hey. Like, I don't even know you. There it is. There it is. Yeah. There it is. There it is.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Yeah. There it is. All this, man, you ain't, bro, he was a teammate. You not buddy-buddy with everybody that's on your team. You buddy-buddy with everybody in your work office? Y'all go out to lunch and do happy hour, go to each other's crib? No.
Starting point is 00:13:23 That's, I mean, some guys are close like that, Ocho. They are. Yeah. Some guys not. This ain't college. Well, you see it. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to pass the guy in the hallway going to class,
Starting point is 00:13:35 or he might be in the same class. Bro, a lot of these guys, they got families, they got kids, and, you know, we on different wavelengths, and that's okay. We're just trying to do the same. When we at work, hopefully we got the same goal, Ojo, to try to win as many games we possibly can. As is. Once you go home.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Done deal. Yeah, but I'm not making too much out of it. With the KD interaction that's happened. Like I said, I've seen coaches, hey, coaches and players. Man, I've seen, college, I've seen a basketball player beat the basketball coach so down, we had to go pull him up off it. I ain't pushing you. Ocho, when I say he beat him down, Ocho, when I say he beat him down.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Right. He must have said something slick, huh? I don't know what he said. And because, you know, I'm looking out the bathroom. Where did I see him arguing? Right. Because I ain't never seen. Look, Ocho, I've seen players and coaches argue in that setting.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah. On the football field, on the basket. Okay, that's one thing. But, bro, we not in that environment. We not on the football field. We the basketball. Okay, that's one thing. But bro, we not in that environment. We not on the football field. We not on the basketball court. And you arguing with me like, we just two ninjas in the street? Right.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So I'm like, well, damn. I said, man, let me go on down there for something, Pop-Pop. So I go down there. I'm just, you know, it ain't got nothing to do with me, so I really shouldn't be. And next thing you know, I'm, it ain't got nothing to do with me, so I really shouldn't be. And next thing I know, whoop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Abilene, okay, you probably asked for it because, first of all, you don't live on campus. For you to bring your ass back on campus after practice is over to come back up here in front of this man, you probably was getting what you deserved. Where I intervened when he started kicking and putting feet on him. I said, no, I can't let you do that. Yeah, you got to go get him.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I had to get him up off him. And they're like, bro. And look here, coach, go ahead on now. Because if I turn this man loose, after I done got him up off you. That's on you. That's on you. That's on you now. Round two. Hey, I called my other,
Starting point is 00:15:48 I said, hey man, man, get coach up out of here. Ocho, when I say he whipped him. Yeah. Hold on. So that was the coach, that the player was part of the team? Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Hold on. Was the player allowed to remain on the team after that? Yeah. Oh, he must have played a couple of – I think he ended up leaving on his own, but he didn't kick him off. If I'm not mistaken, I think it was the coach's fault. Okay. So he must have been a star player.
Starting point is 00:16:16 He wasn't a star player, but he was a good player. He was a decent player. Okay, okay, okay, okay. But my thing is, if I'm a coach, here's the thing. Yeah. If you let a puppy lick you in the mouth, you better be careful because he's going to grow up to be a dog and he'll bite you. Man, boy.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Uh-uh. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Boy, that was a good one there, bro. What? Boy, you know, I don't go nowhere without it now. Yeah. If you let a puppy lick you in the mouth, he'll grow up and bite you when he become a dog.
Starting point is 00:16:57 See, if you put yourself on that level. See, the problem that the coach had is that he put himself on that level to be with the player. So the player no longer looked at him as the coach. He looked at him as like another player. Let a puppy lick you in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And so that's why Ocho, that's why with kids, you stay up here Ocho. You don't say, oh, that's my friend. Oh, that's why that's Ocho. That's why with kids, you stay up here, Ocho. You don't say, oh, that's my friend. Oh, that's my best friend. Me and my daughter, me and my son, we like best friends. Ain't no we not.
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Starting point is 00:22:21 And we really didn't have anything that was going to look different going into the playoffs. Again, Anthony Davis was complaining about where he's being played, and he wasn't happy. So I think this was a positive for both teams. They got what they were looking for, and we got what we were looking for. Ocho?
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah. Do you believe that was fair for Genie to say? I mean, no. I mean, well, kind of. Kind of to give him a reason. Remember to say you like for people to to say. I mean, no. I mean, well, kind of. Kind of to give him a reason. Remember to say you like for people to be honest. You like for people to speak the truth.
Starting point is 00:22:50 That's what you're saying. I like for him to be honest. That was very transparent. That is why the deal was made. Listen, AD wasn't happy. Obviously, he didn't show any type of emotion. He didn't show that
Starting point is 00:23:01 any signs of him being unhappy, especially on the court. He went out there and did what he was supposed to do. But if you're not happy and you keep things behind closed doors internally, this is what you get. They give you your wish. Now you got your wish just so happened that Luka
Starting point is 00:23:17 became available and it worked in the Lakers' favor. Okay, you're not happy? We're going to do your solid, young boy. We're going to see you over to Dallas and Luka's going to come over here and both parties are happy. I'm sure he's happy now.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Well, I mean, outside of being injured. Outside of being injured. Me, and I'm trying to be like, 80 wasn't asking you to go get him.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Joel and beat on a Cola. Jokic. Yes, sir. Just give him an able-bodied person. Right. So he can slide to the four a little bit. And then the last five minutes of the game.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Yeah. I'll play the five. Okay. You don't like being down. If you look at his best years, he had it with boogie. Yeah. Boogie was at the five. Yeah. being down at the five, huh? If you look at AD's best years, he had it with Boogie. Yeah. Boogie was at the five.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. AD was at the four. If you go back and look at JaVale McGee at the five, Dwight Howard at the five, AD at the four. But when it came down to crunch time, AD slid to the five. And a lot of times LeBron was the four man, but he played the point. That was OJ. But here's the kicker, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:24:26 In order for this deal to get consummated, AD had to waive his no-trade clause. Yeah. Yeah. Everything Jeannie Buss said could be true. Yes, sir. But considering the man could have held this
Starting point is 00:24:41 thing up, and Nico probably takes this deal to somebody else. Just keep that behind closed doors. OK, OK, OK. Well, listen, at this point, this is good. Maybe maybe we get more owners being transparent and being honest and coming out and say, well, this individual wasn't happy. So we granted them exactly what they wanted. And ain't nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:25:03 It probably was. It's hard for me to see a scenario, Ocho, where this wasn't conveyed to them at some point in time in the process. Ahead of time? Yes. I'm going to come when he was at the Pelicans. Right. Yes, for sure. Okay. For sure. If you go back and look at it,
Starting point is 00:25:22 they had JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard. Right. AD's first year it, they had JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard. AD's first year there, they won the championship. And you blow that up? Why would you not? And I get it. I mean, like I said, I don't think AD was asking for, hey, I need
Starting point is 00:25:40 a top five center. He just needs somebody that can eat up the minutes so he doesn't wear himself down trying to bang with Yoke, trying to bang with Embiid, trying to bang with those big bodies. Let those guys. Now, the last five minutes, I got you. Don't even worry about it. I got
Starting point is 00:25:56 you. The last five, let me at it. I don't really think that's a bad thing to say. Yeah, he said it on several occasions. His last interview, I don't know if it was dave mcminniman or or shams but he said you know hey i would like to have a five i think that's all we're missing five let me slide to four the last five minutes of the game hey i got it yeah yeah i just think the thing is for me me personally like i said hey everybody's entitled toward their opinion i think but ad being as class as he was because he could have held it up.
Starting point is 00:26:25 He said, no, I ain't waiving my trade clause. I came to L.A. I'm going to stay in L.A. Yeah. And then now Luka's maybe somewhere so the trade doesn't happen. Now you get a bona fide superstar for the next 10 years. Right. In Luka.
Starting point is 00:26:39 So, like I said, I just – some situations, Ocho, it is okay. It is okay for you to just sit on the truth. It doesn't hurt anybody. If she keeps this, Ocho, is anybody harmed if she keeps this? Because the way she says it, it makes it seem like, well, we were kind of looking to trade AD because he started to complain and it started to become an issue. Right. You see what I'm saying? Yes, sir. I just think a situation like that, just sit on that information.
Starting point is 00:27:10 You know it and that's how you feel. Right. Got no problem with that. But it's okay if everything is not brought up. Everything is not mentioned because AD has played well. Yeah, he's been nicked a couple of times. I mean, but it ain't no harm
Starting point is 00:27:32 in losing to, you talk about one of the great players. It's going to all see when it's all said and done. We'll see where Nicola Yoke is ranked. But y'all make it seem. Who the hell y'all think? I mean, the Lakers put somebody out every year. The Celticsakers put somebody out every year. The Celtics were putting people out every year.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Jordan was putting people out every year. When it's all said and done, Jokic is going to be up there. He has three MVPs in a four-year span. He's probably going to finish second this year. Who's to say he doesn't win another one or another two or win another championship.
Starting point is 00:28:05 So losing to Nikola Jokic is bad. Right. That's like Toronto said, man, every year, man, we we lost to LeBron. Really? Don't y'all feel bad about losing to LeBron every year? Right. A lot of people lost to LeBron or losing to Steph or losing to one of these other great players over a extended period of time.
Starting point is 00:28:27 There is nothing wrong with that. Ocho, Kyrie was helped to the locker room after an apparent leg injury. He stayed in the game and drained two free throws before leaving the court. With Kyrie, the question is, Ocho, you want to put that Mavericks game up. Kyrie playing this kind of – and he has to. AD's out and you traded Luka. So now – and you're out lively and you're without Daniel Gafford. So he's having a long minute.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Try to keep them afloat until AD comes back. But you're putting a lot of – you're putting a lot of, he's got to do an awful lot. He's got to facilitate. He's got to score. That's a lot. Listen, when you think about what he has to do with AD being out, a player like Kyrie, of his
Starting point is 00:29:17 caliber, that can run the offense, that can set things up, that can facilitate, that can get hot on any night, especially when he has to score. When the onus is on him to lead the way, that can set things up, that can facilitate, that can get hot on any night, especially when he has to score. When the onus is on him to lead the way, Kyrie can do that. So when you say it's a lot to ask of him to do, he's the
Starting point is 00:29:34 type of player. He's one of the ones that left Cleveland because he wanted to be the head dog, right? Right. So this is your chance. This is the chance. But he's finding out there's a lot more going into it. There's a lot more going into it than being the lead dog now. Yeah, you're going to score a bunch of points. But at the end of the day, people are going to be looking at you like, bro, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:29:57 What about that team? I mean, he's averaging the third most minutes per game in his career. And he's doing it as he's starting to get older. Normally, the minutes decrease. If you go back and look at Kobe, you look at LeBron, and you look at Jordan, they're playing 39, 40. I think one year LeBron played 42 minutes a night. Jordan was up there.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Kobe was up there. But as you start getting 30, now you start coming back, whoa, whoa, I need to be around somewhere between 35 and 37. What's he averaging now? He might be averaging 35, 37. 30 minutes, 37? 37, 36, that's a lot of minutes. And there's a difference between playing 36 minutes and you got Luka running shotgun with you.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Playing 36 minutes and you got AD. 36 minutes and you got KD Harden. 36 minutes and you got LeBron. Because you can be out there on the court for 36 minutes and you can coast. KD going to get buckets. Harden going to get me buckets. Luka going to get me buckets.
Starting point is 00:31:01 LeBron, AD. Bro, when you out there, you got to work. You know, sometimes you show up at the job, hey, you just show up, you just there. I ain't doing no work today. I'm talking to everybody. Because, hey, I know everybody else going to do their job. It ain't like that right now with Kyria Dallas.
Starting point is 00:31:26 They're trying to do everything they can to stay in the sixth spot. Don't have to do the play in. If you're in the sixth spot, you avoid the play in. I'm sure they're hoping they can get AD back at some point in time. Probably have him reevaluated in the next seven to ten days
Starting point is 00:31:44 and see where that goes. But I wish Kyrie a speedy recovery. Hopefully it's nothing serious. Did he hyperextend it or did he step on somebody's foot and twist his ankle? Which one was it? I didn't see it, Ocho. Yeah, even on the replay, I still couldn't tell
Starting point is 00:32:01 what happened. But he couldn't put any weight on that foot. It was his right foot, you know, to be exact. I'm thinking with them the way they helped him off the court, it wasn't a hyperextension. I think he twisted his ankle a little bit. And I'm not even going to talk about my room. Oh, he stepped on the guy's
Starting point is 00:32:17 ankle and his knee kind of buckled a little bit. That's Valanchunas, I think. Wasn't that Valanchunas he stepped on? Yeah. He stepped on his foot. Hey, that's one of the worst things you can do. You're not telling me nothing. I know. You're a hooper.
Starting point is 00:32:36 You're a hooper. When you step on somebody's ankle and your eyes are looking up, so you're not ready for it, and the foot is already relaxed, too. So you're not you're not you're not ready for it and the foot is already relaxed too so you getting all that man um oh that's appealing but hopefully uh it's nothing major hopefully it's just a little simple little tweak a couple of days rest some ice and uh kairi will be able to come back because without kair, they're 32-30 right now. Where are they now? They're in the 10th spot.
Starting point is 00:33:11 That's the last spot for the play-in. It's not looking good, which would be even worse for Nico Harris. Because at one point, they were where they were. I think they were in the fifth or the sixth spot. And now, all of a sudden, AD comes in, has so much promise, he goes out. And now you slide and you miss the playoffs. And Luka and them are in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:33:37 They go from seven to two. Yeah. And Nico Harris is going to look crazy up there, huh? He's looking crazy at the deals. The Dallas Mavericks raised ticket prices, cite investments. The Dallas Mavericks revealed that they're raising their season ticket price next season, I think about an average of almost 9%, just weeks after dealing Luka to the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:33:58 The Mavericks said season tickets will go up by 8.61%, which is about 9%, and the increase is due to ongoing investments in the team and fan engagements. One fan tweeted, 30 days ago, the Dallas Mavericks traded away their homegrown superstar, called him fat, and laughed in the fans' face about it. Today, they decided to almost double the prices of my season tickets from the past couple of years. The new ownership is disgustingly out of touch.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Hold on. Not only are they out of touch, can you give me a better reason what team, what business actually raises prices mid-season? No, this is for next season. Well, even – No, we're getting your head up. Like my grandkids would say, boy, save your pennies up so you can get it. Oh, they're letting you know ahead of time okay okay okay okay i'll get ready to say but that's slightly disrespectful i i don't and look if they had kept luca and said we're gonna raise
Starting point is 00:34:54 ticket prices i don't think fans would have had anything to add nothing bad to say about that decision no joke because it's luca home because normally you want to keep your home going home grown guys yeah especially if they want to stay because a lot of times Because normally you want to keep your homegrown guys. Yeah. Especially if they want to stay. Because a lot of times they get, you know, you see Zion, he wanted to leave. AD wanted to leave. LeBron ended up leaving.
Starting point is 00:35:14 KD ended up leaving. Russ left. Harden left. Reggie Jackson. I mean, so forth and so the list goes on and on about you getting these guys and then them leaving. Luca, from everything that I've read and people that was close to him that knows him, he didn't want to leave Dallas. The fans didn't want him to leave Dallas.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Now, if you ask Philly fans, they might not be so disappointed if you trade Joel Embiid, considering his injury history and he's missed as many games as he's played. I don't think the fans were disappointed when they traded Ben Simmons, considering the regression that they had started to see in his play. Luka, we saw no regression. We only saw ascension in his play, and they traded him. And after you trade him, you have the unmitigated gall?
Starting point is 00:36:02 You have the audacity to bring your ass in here and talk about you raising prices? No. And listen, you know what? Also, when Nico Harris makes a move like that, one thing that you can stand on is hoping that whoever you trade for replaces the product that actually left.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And it makes the fans forget about the trade based on your production and what you do. But he's been out. And then to say what you say, what's going to happen next year, what you're raising prices, well, hey, how about you fix this season first? Fix the product on the court this season.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Because then we wouldn't have a problem paying for next season if what we wanted and we were getting was on point this year. Ain't no fixing this year. This is your team moving forward. The question is how soon does AD comes back and what's the severity of Kyrie's injury? Because if both is down for a substantial amount of time,
Starting point is 00:36:59 this season is over. This season is over. You're not going to be without four of your top six, seven guys and think you're going to be make the playoff. That ain't happening. They're a good team. They're not that good. No team could overcome being without, say, a Kyrie, a AD, a Gafford, a Lively. That ain't happening. So the only thing they can hope is hope and pray that within the next seven to ten days they can come back and they can go on a little run because they're not it's not like they got a whole lot of game it's not two months left in the season oh joe it's one
Starting point is 00:37:37 month left in the regular season and they need to figure this thing out. But it's, bro, when you, when, when, first of all, fans like we already being pinched. We already being pinched. You see they cutting jobs and inflation and eggs and gas and milk. And these prices are rising. The cost of rate, the cost of a family is rising. And bro, y'all just traded the person that I wouldn't mind paying $500 a game to come see. Y'all traded him, and now y'all asking me to pay $750.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Nah, hell nah. You think about, look at the landscape of the NBA, and you think about prices on how much tickets cost. There are two or three players on every team, on every team. I don't care how you look at it. We're fans that put butts in the seats. We said about two or three players that actually put butts in the seats regardless of what the price of the tickets are. They make you forget about it.
Starting point is 00:38:34 They make you forget about the economy because I know what I'm getting once I go watch these boys play. And you need superstars because in the NBA, look, it's all about a superstar. That's why the Lakers try to move heaven and earth to try to keep them and for the longest time they've always had them they had I mean when they was in Minneapolis they had George Micah and then when they come to LA they had Baylor and they had Jerry West and then they make the trade then they get Wilt and then a couple of
Starting point is 00:38:59 years later they get Kareem and then they drafted Magic and they get Bob McAdoo and they draft James Worthy. And then they make the, they get Shaq and then they make the trade for Colby. And then they get LeBron to come. That's what the Lakers do. You have to have superstars. People want to see superstars, the best of the best or what they'll do.
Starting point is 00:39:20 You'll sell the building out when those superstars come. So when Steph Curry's on coming to your town, it's going to sell out. When LeBron comes, it's going to sell out. I mean, when Jordan was in the league, team, you already knew. Jordan's going to be a sellout. Kobe and Shaq are going to be a sellout. LeBron was going to be a sellout. You knew that.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Bro, I want my home game to sell out regardless because we're playing. Not that y'all coming to see somebody else. Can you imagine what the price of tickets were courtside when Kobe and Shaq were
Starting point is 00:40:00 together? I know the price is probably extensive now, and I'm sure it's gone up since then, but can you imagine what the price and i know the price is probably extensive now and i'm sure it's going up since then but can you imagine what it was well especially come playoffs or big game they play san antonio or they play you know they who else was a rival of theirs oh sacramento was a rival of there when they had chris webb and they had J. Will. The Sons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now?
Starting point is 00:40:32 That's crazy. Boy, Luka first game. Yeah, which is when Korsai was. Matter of fact, when you give me the price of Korsai right now for a Lakers game, use the NFL player's number currently right now. Don't tell me the number. Just give me your NFL player's jersey number for better contact because I don't want to hit a price because it's going to make me mad.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Don't piss me off. First of all, they got Luka and LeBron. So the tickets are already going to be high as giraffe hoo-ha to begin with. Now, think about when his first game he played Dallas. So the tickets are already going to be high at Giraffe Hoo-Hawk to begin with. Now, think about when his first game he played Dallas. Now it's his old team. Everybody wanted to see that. So probably, you're probably looking at about,
Starting point is 00:41:30 the closer you go to center court, the more expensive the tickets. You probably was looking at about probably $25 ticket for center court. Okay. Okay. I thought it would have been worse than that, honestly. I thought it would have been worse than that. Okay. Okay. But come playoff time, okay okay but uh but come playoff time
Starting point is 00:41:48 you dealing with the Lakers I mean like some tickets on show you go sit courtside $1,500, $2,000 that ain't happening no Laker game nah and it also depends on the city you go to and the food now you get everything you mean you all the food free
Starting point is 00:42:08 but consider what you pay for that ticket right you don't access season tickets and you made me miss all my games Ocho wait how did I make you miss all your games you can just start at night you started nightcap i listen i started nightcap but what you could have done is is we could have been a part of a consistent routine of going to the legging game sitting courtside you could have sat there and taught me you know the intricacies of the game
Starting point is 00:42:43 how am i gonna sit courtside and we coming on after the game? What are you talking about? I know Jenny Bush. She would have gave us a private room in the back. We could have set up our nightcaps up right there after the game in the stadium. Can you imagine? Nobody's doing nothing like that. But anyway, that's just an idea to throw at you next year.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I got to save my pennies. What you saving for? I don't want to work myself. I don't want to do this for the next 10, 15 years. I done told you about saving the past two years. You talk about flying private jets and flying first class. I ain't flying no private jets. You flew private telling me you would.
Starting point is 00:43:24 So you ain't fly private? i told you it made that way there's no need to waste that kind of money but you can get to the same same place from point a to point b on another airline i mean sometimes you know because you you told me i want to enjoy myself let me oh so now you didn't did it 180 now i'm enjoying myself so now you done did a 180. Yeah, I'm enjoying myself, so now I got to save. I like it. I like the growth. Now, if we can get the growth in other areas and other facets of your life, we're going to be all right. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,
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Starting point is 00:48:46 several executives who spoke with Hoop Hype will be monitoring on the trade market this summer. Ocho, should teams be interested in trading for Lamello with his injury history? Oh, see, you know what? Now that part, now when you say that, it makes everybody pause. It makes everybody think. You take away his injury history.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Okay? Let's say you take away his injury history. Let's talk about what LaMelo Ball does and gives you when he's on the court. He's lights out, huh? He's box office. He's one of those individuals, you know what? We have the tickets at $800. You know what?
Starting point is 00:49:21 I don't mind paying $800 because I know LaMelo Ball is on my team. He's on our team. I know what I get when I'm coming to watch him. I'm going to get my money's worth. Now, once you factor in his injury history and what happens when he's out time to time, ah, you know, now you perceive a caution to the wind. Now, that's the bad thing. But listen, anybody can get hurt it happens
Starting point is 00:49:47 it's a game of basketball it's not it's not that much of a buy as a violent sport it's football but it's very physical injuries are gonna happen especially and you know i mean he was six seven six eight really thin frame, his ankles are fragile. I mean, he might have to go through that with Steph. Remember, Steph was the same way. Steph stayed injured. That's why he got that little men contract, and then he just was able to stay healthy.
Starting point is 00:50:15 That might be a situation. He might need to reach out to Steph. It's like, Steph, man, how did you like these ankle injuries? How did you eventually get over it? Because, man, there ain't nothing to play with. You're talking to a guy that had ankle injuries? How did you eventually get over it? Because, man, there ain't nothing to play with. You're talking to a guy that had ankle injuries? Hell, I thought I was going to have to retire at 26. Man,
Starting point is 00:50:32 my stuff was bad, don't you know? You're talking about step on somebody's ankle? I could literally step on somebody's ankle and it would blow up like a catalog. That big? And the worst part was doing it on the road. Because guess what?
Starting point is 00:50:48 I got to get on a plane and fly back home. You know what happened when you get in there? With that pressure? Swole right up. You know, I wore those stockings. You know, I put those on both of my legs to keep the swelling down. Because I swole a lot. Huh?
Starting point is 00:51:04 Those white ones. No, those white ones. You know those nursing stockings? I my legs to keep the swelling down because I swole a lot. Huh? The black ones. No, those white ones. You know, those nursing stockings. I know you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, I had no thanks on Ocho, man, because, man, look here. I get on that play, man. My knees and ankles swell up.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Yeah. Because I remember I was in Baltimore my last year, Ocho. I got my knee drained every week. Oh, wait a minute. Every week? You mean drain the needle? Pull out? The first time I got both of them drained, Ocho, they got about 130 cc's off both ankles. I mean, both knees. 130 cc's? Yeah, I know how much 130 cc's is.
Starting point is 00:51:56 How did you even practice with that moving around? I did practice. That was the thing. They gave me the off. I get my knees drained about three hours before the game. I would ice it, try to keep the swelling down. Then they would put hot packs, Ocho, so I get some mobility in there. But I was probably getting 30, 40 cc's drawn a game. Man, but, you know what, let me –
Starting point is 00:52:26 Listen, I thank God for being able to play for a long time with no injuries you know i for as long as i played and as reckless as i played i got hit really clean one good time one one clean hit in 11 12 years outside of that was everything was basically normal like man listen to some of you all the pictures you know your passion i get something done they're like i don't know i think if i if i shoot it up could i be able to play right it up and you shoot it out there and go both shoulders bad i separated both shoulders man they put about three or four shots they put they put two shots in this one, two shots in that one. Man, I was doing jumping jacks. Ah, ah. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:53:08 How do you separate both shows? The rest is so Dave Dorsen. I caught a seven route. Safety, you got to be safety. Yeah, he was with the Bears. He went to Chitubo with the Bears. He was with the Cardinals at the time. So he landed on me.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Crack. I hit the ground. Crack. And he landed on me crack I hit the ground crack he landed on top of me crack wait so you you did both shows at the same time but I like this Ocho hey. Hey, the whole week. Hey, they put that medicine in there? Yeah. And you was good. Did you wear the harness? Let me tell you what I did, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:53:55 So, we played the Raiders. And I'm feeling good. I feel good. Man, we were at a toss crack. We had a force crack. And it was Ronnie. Right. It was Ronnie, it might have been Ronnie.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I push up the corner retreat, here come the safety. Right. Man, I hit that Joe. I forgot, Joe, I forgot. Cuz you know normally if you got something hurt, you hit it with the opposite one. Well, bothcho, I forgot. Because, you know, normally, if you got something hurt, you hit it with the opposite one. Well, both of mine messed up. So I just say, hey.
Starting point is 00:54:32 So I just say it is what it is. Wow. Right. Ocho, tears just start coming down my face. Ah. Hey, boy, that thing. Ocho, I don't know if you ever had that pain, but it feel like electricity go through your body? Yeah, yeah, I like a pinched nerve that pinched nerve that pinched nerve feeling like this here that's a greek i'm done yes after that you're done man he knocked
Starting point is 00:54:59 all that medicine out them shoulders hell yeah I was done after that, man. So I understand having to deal with injury history. For two years straight, I shot up my ankle every week. Sometimes I had to shoot up both of them. It gotten so bad, ask anybody that was in there, the skin started
Starting point is 00:55:20 to come off my ankles. From getting it shot up so much? It had completely just colored like i had villaligo it was like as dark as i am and it was just like pure yellow sure i'm talking about like white right and that's funny people you you talk about stuff like this and everybody look at the glistening glamour when it comes to athletes and then you sit down and you're able to hear stories like this about the sacrifices and the things that you got to go through.
Starting point is 00:55:49 If broke down as I am, I'll do it all over again. I'll take my black ass right back out there. No, hell no. No regrets. Absolutely not. Oh, look, if you play this game long enough, there are going to be times that you're like, man, I don't know how.
Starting point is 00:56:05 On Sunday or Monday, Tuesday, I was like, man, I ain't no way in hell I'm going to be able to play. But Greek and test was always like, hey, Sharp, just think positive. Hey, we don't have to play today. If we had to play today, you probably wouldn't be able to go. But let's see how you feel tomorrow. Let's see how you feel on Thursday. Let's see how – they kept that positive. I was like, hey But let's see how you feel tomorrow. Let's see how you feel on Thursday. They kept that positive. I was like, hey,
Starting point is 00:56:28 Sharper, how you feel? Man, I feel better. I think I might turn the corner. You know what I'm saying? Because I wanted to play Ocho. Man, look, I ain't got no 20 years. I ain't no doctor, no lawyer where I can have a 25, 30-year career. I got a finite period of time.
Starting point is 00:56:44 I'm going to try to maximize it. And they let me know all, Shannon, you know, you shooting up, blah, blah, long term. I said, bro, bro, let me worry about that in 30 years. Right now, I need to get out there. I got people depending on me. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. The Volume. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There are so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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