Nightcap - Nightcap - Hour 1: LeBron’s historical night, Embiid load management, Giannis drops 59

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Los Angeles Lakers’ Lebron James' becoming the oldest man in NBA history to record a triple double in win vs. the Memphis Grizzlies. Later, Unc and Ocho question Philadelphia 76ers Joel Embiid sitting out vs. the Cleveland Cavaliers due to load management, Milwaukee Bucks’ Giannis Antetokounmpo dropping 59 points without Damian Lillard in OT win vs. the Detroit Pistons and much more!03:13 - Show starts03:30 - Intro04:45 - Lakers beat Grizzlies28:30 - Giannis outscores Pistons35:20 - Cavs beat Sixers48:30 - Pop suffers mild stroke51:14 - Wemby 50 Piece(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Guess what? We dropped that last week. Quantities are limited. Make sure you go grab yours while supplies last. Ocho, the game we just ended. The Lakers defeat the Grizzlies, 128 to 123. LeBron James became the oldest man in NBA history. Well, he was already the oldest because he had three straight triple doubles.

I think he was 34 years of age, three. You know, he was a couple of days older than Jason Kidd, who did it when he was 34. But he became the oldest man in NBA history to record three straight triple doubles. 35 points, 12 rebounds, 14 assists, and they needed every single point, every

single rebound, every single assist. He had 9 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists in the fourth quarter alone. The Lakers stayed undefeated at home as they beat the Grizzlies minus John Morant and minus Desmond Bain I didn't think it would be that dip that uh that difficult Ocho but the Grizzlies a very balanced team they had one two three four five six guys in double figures another

guy had nine points they're very no they had seven guys in double figures excuse me they're very scrappy team you know what you're going to get when you play the grizzlies you're going to get a lot of effort even without two uh uh two of their best players jaw obviously is their best player but jaron jackson had a superior had a great game 29 points seven rebounds uh zach edie uh had nine points uh that's zach edie no zach edie had 12 points excuse me had 12 points uh uh atalama uh had what 15 scotty pippen jr has been playing extremely well he just needed he just needed a place where he could go and he could play he wasn't gonna get the minutes there i'm sure the lakers would love to have him but when you got lebron who needs the ball you're gonna have austin rivers on the point and uh I think they had him before.

Maybe they had D-Lo also. That was just too many guys handling the point, so he wasn't going to get an opportunity to handle the ball. Ocho, but I thought the Lakers really needed this game. They had to dig deep. I don't know if they took him for granted because Bain and Ja was going to be out. But they had a 12-point lead, built the lead all the way to 15. I think the Grizz cut it to one, then outscored them in the third

quarter, but the Lakers get it together. AD was in foul trouble a large part of this game, and I think that had a lot to do with it. Eady is just so big, man. I don't know how tall he is. I think he's about 7'4". He just takes up so much space. This is a big win. The Lakers

stay undefeated at home, but I thought the Lakers played really well when they absolutely have to. But you guys tip your hat to the Grizzlies because they played well with that two of their best players. When you watch the game, Ocho, what do you think? I mean, I enjoyed it up and down the field without Ja Morant. Listen, they played very well in transition on both sides of the court. Defensively, they did the best that they could. But offensively in transition, they played extremely well.

Outside of that, for me, knowing that you know how much I've really just started watching the game of basketball, I would have liked to see the difference with Bane and Ja Morant playing tonight and see if that would have made a difference in the game. The fact that the Grizz were able to keep it somewhat close, keep it somewhat close because of the way they played, because of how you just spoke on it, how scrappy they were. I would have liked that a little better.

Outside of that, it was a good game. You did mention that AD was in trouble, and he really couldn't get in the rhythm early, but he did find his rhythm later on in the game. Fourth quarter, he was huge. Yeah, yeah. He had two big threes. Yeah, to kind of extend that lead a little bit more.

Outside of that, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. One of the things I would want and ask from you being that the season is really just starting and as I continue to learn the game of basketball, I think we need to sit courtside. I think we need to sit courtside

so you can teach me the game better. And I think since I'm a visual learner, it'd be perfect. So you take me to all the games courtside. That ain't gonna happen. I can put you in touch with the guy that can get you the tickets to sit courtside. Oh, no, no.

I'm not talking to no guy. I'm not talking to you. I need you sitting next to me so you can explain. I know what them courtside tickets Oh, no, no, no. I'm going to talk to no guy. I'm going to talk to you. I need you sitting next to me so you can explain. I know what them courtside tickets cost, bro. I know. You got it.

That ain't nothing to a player like you. That ain't nothing to a player like you. It's just like, I'll sit courtside if there's not a game on, but for me,

I like watching all the games. It's hard for you to sit courtside and watch the games when you got to be critiquing and analyzing all the games and come back and have a conversation about them.

It's just that's one of the reasons why I don't go to football games on Sunday because I can't analyze all the other games that's going on if I'm sitting in the stadium watching that one game. And there's so many other games that I need to talk about. So that's the main reason why I don't go to games. You know, I have an opportunity to go to games, go see the Broncos or Ravens play, but I'll be doing a disservice to try to come in here and have a conversation about other games that played

knowing that I was at a game watching, focusing on that game. So that's the main reason why I don't even go to games. It would be nice to be able to go to a game here and there. I think the Broncos are coming out. Well, I know they are, and somebody asked me in the gym today, are you going to the Broncos-Raiders game?

I was like, nah, I'm not. When I look at the game, Mocho, you look at the Lakers, they shot, and they're not the greatest three-point shooting team. They're streaky, don't connect, obviously, the best three-point shooter. They shot 48%, almost 40%. They shot basically 49% from the three. But the turnover, that's what'll get you in trouble.

And you have a 15-point lead, and you turned the ball over a couple of times. You get lazy on defense and guys, you know, basically hit a shoot around threes on you, or they get, you know, uncontested layups to the basket. I think that's what really hurt him.

Cause normally the Lakers, you shot 51% from the floor. You shot 49% from the three. You was terrible from the free throw line. You was 22 or 32. Right. You got to be better the three. You was terrible from the free throw line. You was 22 or 32. You got to be better from LeBron was 5 of 8. Cam Reddish was 1 of 4.

Austin Reeves was 5 of 7. You got to be better. In a closer game, you're going to need to make those free throws. You need to be 28 of 32, something like that, 29 of 32. There's no reason for you to miss that many free throws. But, you know, other than that,

Konek played good coming off the bench. Koloko played good off the bench. D'Lo struggled a little bit tonight. Gabe Vinson hadn't found his stroke yet. He hadn't found his stroke in a while. Hey, D, you think D'Lo coming off the bench, you think that bothers him? You think it bothers him not being

able to get in rhythm? Not having that, I don't know the word to use, not confidence, but usually when a player is coming off the bench that is normally a starter, it's hard for them to catch rhythm. They're a little hesitant when they decide to pull the trigger out there on the court.

Yeah, I think he's been a starter basically his whole career, so you have to revamp your game. You know, you see Lou Will was a starter, then all of a sudden they brought him off the bench. What's the guy named? Jamal Crawford. I mean, you know, basically you have

to just like, but you do have the green light. Normally guys that come off the bench, you understand they're going to have the green light. A Malik Monk was a starter and now they're moving to the bench. He has the green light normally guys that come off the bench you understand they're gonna have they have the green light a malik monk when they started now they move him to the bench he has the green light to get in rhythm um and but i think this role is better suited for him because you insert cam reddish and you ask cam reddish to guard probably one of the premier uh backcourt guy that takes pressure off of austin reed so he doesn't have to exert so much energy trying to stay in front of a guy like a job trying to stay in front of one of the better or one or two guards and so

that's the thing you have to tip your hat for a guy like Jordan a guy like Kobe that took the challenge LeBron in his prime that took the challenge to guard the best guy and still had to give you the opposite offensive production on the other end that's what separates the guys the really good uh and the great players is that they were willing to accept that challenge. Even if they didn't do it for the entire game, when the rubber needed to meet the road, they would take

that challenge in the fourth quarter overtime or late in the ballgame and say, okay, nah, give me him. But yeah, I mean, what do you say about LeBron? I mean, you look. At this point in time, the man is, what do you say about LeBron? I mean, you look. At this point in time, the man is what, 39, 314 days?

Whatever. Yeah. No, more than that. Yeah. Because there's 45 more days, 365. So yeah, 314 days so there's 46 more days i like to say guys there's 46 more days before his birthday uh but i mean what do you say 35 points 12 rebounds 14 assists he shot great i mean the efficiency was off the chart 13 to 22 4 7 from the 3 um Like I said, AD was in foul trouble.

He missed some easy shots. LeBron missed a couple of easy shots. But in the fourth quarter, when they needed both of their big guns to step up, AD has played great all year long. I got no qualms with AD tonight. It was a relatively quiet night for him. 21 points, 14 rebounds,

6-16 from the floor. He was shooting 57% coming into the game. Like I said, it's kind of hard for him to get a rhythm. He was dealing with a guy that's so much taller than he is. And even when you turn around and create space, shooting over a guy that's 7 foot, I think he's 7 foot 4, even if he jumps a little bit, you know, it's like... It creates a problem.

Yeah. But give them credit. Um, I want to give the Grizzlies credit because I thought they played extremely hard. Like I said, given they didn't have John, they didn't have,

uh, uh, Desmond Bay, you know, job was chirping on the bench. You know, that that's his game. They do a lot of talking.

Um, yeah. Uh, but that's, that's who they are. That's who that team is. But, uh,

the Laker was able to keep their focus and win a ball game that they could have easily lost. Maybe I'm not so sure last year when they played to have that lead for whatever reason. Oh, Joe, and I've been watching the Lakers since LeBron got there. It's always that third quarter where they sleepwalk coming out in the first six or seven minutes of the ball game

and the next thing you know, they might have a lead. The lead is gone or if a team, if it's a close game, the team puts separation. I don't know what it is. And it does not matter who's the coach. If you go back and look at the Lakers, be it Vogel, be it Luke Walton, be it Darvin Ham, and now JJ, that third quarter, for some reason, they sleepwalk.

Hey, listen, when it comes to the game of basketball, whether it be the Lakers or not, regardless of who's coaching a basketball team, what I've come to learn in my short tenure as being a basketball savant is that the game of basketball is about runs. It's a game of runs. No matter how much you extend the lead,

for some reason, no matter what, that lead always shrinks significantly when another team gets in rhythm and they have their run. Then at some point in the third, maybe the fourth quarter, then the game becomes a game where the games are somewhat even. Very seldom is it just a blowout. You get a lead, you extend a lead early in the game and you just blow the game out the water the entirety of the game for some reason the opposing team always comes back

yeah the Lakers got up 41 the Grizzlies got up 33 the Celtics shoot 40, 50 almost 63 the night so when you get in a situation you got teams that can make 25 29 threes yeah right no no lead is safe because you turn the ball you miss a couple shots or you turn turn the ball over

and the team could easily go on their next five possessions hit four threes or two and a 20 point lead all of a sudden is a seven point lead wait, and it's just like that. So, yeah, normally when teams, I mean, look, they've always been big comebacks, things of that nature. But it seems to me now with the way these teams can shoot the basketball, they had a 20-point lead in the first quarter. I mean, I saw just the other night, the Spurs had like a 20- something point lead in the first quarter on the clippers and by the third quarter the clippers had done call him and had a 10 point lead

and ended up winning the game so yeah it is it's always been a game of runs but now with that three-point shot and team's ability to have multiple guys on the court that can shoot and make that shot yeah there's there's really no lead that's really safe. Yeah. But look, this is basically the same roster that they had last year. So for Darvin Hamm to, excuse me, for J.J. Redick to get this kind of production, AD is playing off the chart. Statistically, he's playing his best balls of his career.

LeBron is LeBron. LeBron is LeBron. LeBron is LeBron. Alistair Reeves, now that he doesn't have to guard the best backcourt player, he has some energy to give you something. Now, Cam Reddish is not the guy that's going to give you. He's a defensive guy. He's a wing defender. And anything that he gives you offensively, you greatly accept.

But you just want to make sure that you limit the backcourt guys. You don't let him get his average. If you can hold a guy from his average, give him some limited production, Cam Reddish has done his job. Now, D-Lo, you come in and you get your 15 points coming off the bench.

I thought Dalton Connect was an unbelievable guy. 5-5 from the 3, 7-8 from the field. He had 19 big points. He had theton Connect was unbelievable time. 5 of 5 from the 3, 7 of 8 from the free throw from the field. He had 19 big points. He had the highest plus minus. He was plus 17. You can't complain about that. Coloco gave you

four points, gave you a couple of rebounds. D'Lo gave you eight points. Gabe Vinson, for whatever reason, Gabe Vinson hadn't found his stroke. I remember when he was in Miami, damn it, every time he shot the ball, it seemed like it was going in. Going in, yeah. And now all of a sudden, he was

0-6 from the floor, 0-4 from the three. Got 13 minutes of cardio in. Listen, them bright lights, them bright lights different now. I know Miami is Miami, but them bright lights different over there in Hollywood. Expectations are different. Oh, yeah.

Most definitely. You're playing alongside LeBron. The ball is still way the same. The rim is still, the depth perception is absolutely the same. It's just a different level of expectations. And you're playing alongside a historically great player. And people, it does matter. You know.

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But the Lakers hold on to win the ball game. 128-123 to remain undefeated at home and move to 74 on the regular season. The Lakers have decided that Bronny James will play in the G League home games, but will not travel with the team during the road games. Bronny will be with the Lakers during road games. Brian Windhorst doesn't think that's a good idea.

I'm going to apply the brakes on everything. It's fine on Ronnie's front with the things that's not happening. He's only going to kind of be a part-time G League player, and he's not getting on the United Airlines and going to fly and go play at these road games now. I know he was getting so much special treatment and nepotism, and that's fine. Honestly, I don't care.

Like I said, it's normal. Now I think it's actually detrimental to him. I don't know whose idea it was. Obviously, the Lakers are fine with it. They're doing it. On this particular instance, I think you've gone too far. I don't think it benefits Bronny. I don't think it benefits South Bay Lakers.

I don't think it benefits LeBron at this point. I think it'd be better if Bronny played more developmental player by February or March by playing in the G League road games. Ocho, what you think? I think whoever had the idea and using Bronny the way he is for his development, I think they would know a little bit more than whoever else has anything to say about it. They understand what Bronny needs to do to bring himself along to be a contributor and to get better at his game so he can play at the highest level. Everyone is going to have their opinion on the matter. But I think those who have been doing it for a long time that actually played the game or actually played.

Listen, this is something LeBron has probably signed off on. This is something probably Bronny and other advisors that are in positions of power have thought was the best thing for him to do. You know, to play in the home games, not to fly when the Lakers are on the road. And that's how they saw it fit. I'm not sure why that would be an issue with anyone else.

Because how did he get better fitting on the bench at Laker games? He needs to play. You said. He's playing in the home game. He's playing in the South Bay home game. You said players don't get better sitting on the bench. So why is Bronny getting better sitting on the bench based on what you said? He just,

they just said he's playing in the South Bay Lakers home games. But they play road games. So when they go on the road, he gets nothing out of that. So he just goes sit on the bench and watch the Lakers at home. Hey, listen, that wasn't my decision. No, I'm just basing it on what you said. He's playing in the home games. You said players don't get better sitting on

the bench, be it basketball or football. I'm asking you now, how does Bronny get better when he's only playing part-time and the other half the time he's sitting on the bench? You really can't do the comparison when you talk about football and basketball

because he's still playing. When you get Vince in football, you're not touching the field at all. No, no, no, no, no. You're just practicing. But you're practicing. Right. Right. But again, he's playing in the home games for the South Bay Lakers.

He's not being Vince. That's enough. He's just not being. You would know better than me. I'm not a basketball player. I mean, come on now. Don't do that. Don't do that. Cop out on me. Tell me I would know better. Does a guy get better a basketball player. Don't do that. Don't do that.

Cop out on me. Tell me I would know better. Does a guy get better? So let me ask you a question. So if the football player, he only played home games, but he didn't play on the road. He's getting better, huh? Come on. No, you can't know. Now, you know, you can't compare them goddamn sports. Now, come on. Now, don't do me like that. I thought you get better

by playing. We just had a conversation about Scottie Pippen Jr. Look at what he's doing he was sitting on the bench look at him now when he's getting an opportunity to play to play versus him sitting on the bench coming in i like what you said but the key words you said about scotty pippen jr on the reason why he wasn't playing where he was because other people needed to handle the ball what difference difference does it make? Why? He had to be in a place where he could touch the ball and be a part of the team. So what is so what about Brody? Doesn't he need

to be a place to play? Right. So you would want it to be somewhere else. I want him to play. I don't get the benefit of him playing part time and the other time sitting on the bench. That makes no sense to me. You get better at doing something by doing something.

Not doing it part-time. What occupation allows you to do something part-time and you become great at it? That's a good question. That's a good question. But the fact that he is playing, the fact that he is very, very young, the fact that I think he's not come along far enough to where he can be a part of the active roster when the lakers play and go on and play at home and play on the road games allowing him develop in this way that they that they see fit you know i i had some might agree with it some

don't the fact that he is playing they're trying to bring him along slow. That's the only thing I can think of. Yeah, but look, I mean, I didn't have a whole lot of expectation. He's not a top 10 pick, but I just think him being the 55th pick in the draft, I just think that playing and getting and handling the ball and going up against competition and working on your craft, I don't know how you work on your craft part-time and become great at it.

Now, I'm not saying that he can't, but I'm just saying I don't understand how. Yeah, I understand what you mean. I totally understand what you mean. I don't understand. I kind of get where they may be coming from on their end. But listen, I kind of get where they may be coming from on their end. But listen, folks had to sign off on this.

Oh, yeah, we know they did. Oh, yeah, for sure. They had to sign off on this. And they don't want him playing full time. Why they don't, I don't know. I don't know what the blueprint, I don't know what the idea is behind it. But it's something that many, many obviously probably wouldn't agree with this is something that doesn't normally

happen though, right? so it's either you play for the home team or you play for the G League they put you on a two-way contract that means you're down there and you're playing and sometimes they need you to call you up right, right but

it's a situation you play the G League games, and if somebody gets in it, they'll call you up. Yeah. It's kind of like in baseball. I mean, I think it would be odd, like minor league game, baseball player, okay, you play the home game, but when they travel, you don't play,

you just come sit up on the bench in the majors. Nah, you need at-bats. You need swings. You think maybe, maybe, listen, I could be reaching. Do you think maybe they're protecting him from something, you know, in away games? No. He just needs to play.

I mean, you protect him. Me, personally, I don't think you're helping him by having him sit on the bench. I don't really know how much you could. I mean, look, I get it. But in that situation, I think your basketball, you definitely need to have the ball in your hands. You need to be doing things on the court. You need to be playing. I don't know the benefit of. You because it's not like it's not like football, Ocho, because, you know, we do practice during the course of the week. I mean, shoot around really ain't no practice.

I mean, you shoot around, you go over a couple of plays, you watch some film. I think he needs to be an actual game-like situation in order for him to get better. But, hey, we'll see how he plays over the next two to three years and see if this was the right way for him to develop. Giannis Antetokounmpo, the Greek freak, scored 59 points in the Bucs, 127-120 win over the Pistons.

It was a league-high in points this year by a player and the second-highest single game total for Giannis. He outscored the Pistons by himself in overtime, scoring 11 points to their nine, and he's the first Bucs player to go five for five or better in a single overtime period since play-by-play was first tracked in 1996-97. Tonight marks Giannis' ninth career game in which he scored 50 points and 10 rebounds, the third most in NBA history. Well, nobody has ever, ever, ever catch a Wilt Chamberlain.

Wilt Chamberlain has a total of 118 games in which he scored 50 points and has 10 rebounds. The next closest is Elgin Baylor, who's 102 games behind him. Elgin Baylor has 16 such games. Giannis is now in third place with nine.

You would never guess who's in fourth place. Who that? There are four guys tied. James Harden. James Harden, Joel Embiid, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Michael Jordan are all tied with eight such games, 50 points, and 10 rebounds. Two guards are on the list.

Nobody's surprised that Will Chamberlain, I could have told y'all, anytime they have something to do with 50s, take Will. Anything they got to do with 60s, take Will. Anything they got something to do with 70s, take Will.

Anything they got anything to do with 40s, take Will. Anything, when it comes to scoring, take Will, and you're probably going to be right. But tonight, Giannis Antetokounmpo had a 50-10 game. If I'm not mistaken, I was watching

the game. I think he had 22 points in the first quarter. His teammates had two. The Pistons had 27. Maybe. You know what, Ocho? Can he get some help, though?

Can he get some help? Dane was out tonight. And maybe it's just me, but I've watched these games. I've watched them play. Giannis plays better when Dane's not in the lineup. Dane plays better when Giannis is not in the lineup. But that's not a good thing because

they need to play great together in order for them to reach their ultimate destination. And people are like, well, they've only been together for a little while. Giannis is not going to wait around for them to develop chemistry. They better figure this thing out. Well, actually, they've already had a full season to develop

chemistry. The honeymoon phase is over. They should know each other very well. He should be opening the car door. Man, don't get me started. The chemistry should already be there. It's the game of basketball. There's only five people on the goddamn court. It ain't 11.

It should be a well-oiled machine after all this time. You had a training camp. You had a mini camp. I don't know how many goddamn camps they probably go through, and you've already had a full season. So at this point in year two, with two players of that caliber that are that good,

they should be able to mesh well together. Not, okay, you're not playing tonight, and you go off for whatever points it may be. Okay, Giannis is not playing tonight, and Dame goes crazy. Like, you just got, you guys have to be on the same page on the same night and be just

as efficient. I don't understand why one would play better when the other isn't playing. That makes no sense to me. Yeah, it's two superstar players. You would think they would be really, really great in the pick and roll. Well, they're

okay in the pick and roll because Giannis is not a pick and pop player. It's not like he got a mid-range game. He doesn't. Wait, his mid-range has gotten a lot better now. He doesn't have a mid-range game. Basically, Giannis is getting the ball and he's trying to go down the hill.

He's going to back you out and he's going to try to find a way to Euro step you and get down the hill. He doesn't like to play with his back to the basket. He doesn't like to shoot the mid-range shot. He doesn't like to fall away. He's trying to get to the basket. He's going like to play with his back to the basket. He doesn't like to shoot the mid-range shot. He doesn't like to fall away. He's trying to get to the basket. He's going to try to up and under you. He's going to try to dunk on you, or he's trying to

go over the wall and get to the lane. He's not like AD. AD can pick and pop. AD can roll to the basket. AD can pick and pop. You can dribble drive. You can dribble handoff with him. There's a lot of different things that you can do with a guy like an AD, Joel, and B, big guys that can shoot. That's not what Giannis is.

Yeah, he can have a hot stretch here or there where he making the mid-range shot, but that's really not what he wants to do. Right. But tonight, he was 21 of 44. He was one of two on threes. He shot 17 free throws. He was 16 of 17 from the free throw line. He had 14 rebounds, 7 assists,

2 steals, 3 blocks, only had 3 turnovers, played 44 minutes. He was great, and he had to be. Brooke Lopez, 9 of 17, 5 of 8, 6 of 8. He had 29. Torian Prince kept it with 15. Gary Trent Jr.

And you would think, I think the thing is, when you got Dane, a guy that can shoot the ball, I think a lot of what they're missing is the on-ball defender. They really messed up when they let Holiday go because he was their best perimeter defender. Hey, I ain't even

I can be honest with you. I can be honest with you. I ain't know Drew Holiday was that damn good and valuable. And you never understand how good a player is until they leave a certain situation and they play with somebody else. Now you understand their true value and the struggles on why the Bucs are struggling in certain areas. Sometimes, Ocho, we just look at the stats.

Well, the guy's a 20 and 10 guy. Or the guy does this or that. But Drew Holiday does so many other things. He's normally taking the best player from the opposing team um especially if he's probably a three uh uh uh three two or point he's taking them and now you got derrick white who's also an elite defender you got a big al who can protect the paint you got prasingas who can protect the paint and You got Przingis, who can protect the paint. And now you got JT and JB that doesn't have to exert nearly as much energy taking guys that can go get 30, you know, 25, 30, 35 points.

So now you got two guys. You got two defenders. You got two guys that can protect the paint. And now you got new scores that have energy to go score the basketball. I just, like I said, I've watched them for a year. I know Giannis got hurt, missed some time last year. Dame got Nick. He's out right now dealing with, I'm not sure what he's dealing with.

But watching them play over the course of last year into this year, those guys do play better separate than they play together. Okay, we need to go to a Bucs game too then. You get course I see. Giannis made every basket for the Milwaukee in the first quarter hitting seven to ten field goal attempts and all three of his free throws he had 22 of the team's 24 points also the Cavs continue the undefeated season they beat the Sixers 114 to 106 no Joel Embiid no PG sat out due to load management damn Joel Embiid, no PG, sat out due to load management. Damn, Joel Embiid just got back, but hey, he need to manage it. Cavs became the sixth team in NBA history to start the season 13-0.

Of the previous five teams to start 13-0, four made the NBA titles, excuse me, won four, made the NBA finals, but only one, the 1993-94 Houston Rockets won the title. The record, if I'm not mistaken, is the Golden State Warriors who started the season in 2015-16, 24-0. Hey. Yeah. I have a question.

Do you personally have a problem with Embiid taking nights off, understanding his situation, his injury history, the fact, his size, his weight? I'm just curious. How do you feel about it? I mean, and they just gave him a three-year, $193 million extension. Okay, so that means you do have a problem. Yeah, I got a problem with a guy not playing. Absolutely.

Yeah. The fans have a problem with it too. Right, right. Even with understanding on why he has to have load management based on, you know. Shouldn't they be able to load manager's check?

I mean, damn? I mean, damn. The guy missed the first nine games of the season. He comes back, plays the game, and now he's out again? Damn. That was a good one. I just, look, this is the problem

that you're going to have with him. He had an injury history when you drafted him. He's 21. He had injury history at 20. Right. What happens as he starts to age? Do you think people get lighter? Do athletes get lighter as they age, or do they get heavier

and then compound the injury history that they already have? You're right. Because if you look at it, I'm trying to, other than Pop, what team has load managed and won the title? Hey, matter of fact, speaking of Pop, right? Spurs have won the title. Who was the player that was being Lode managed in at that time? Well, they used to do it all the time with Tim Duncan.

There was Tim Timmons and Tony Parker and Manu. And then, you know, Kawhi came in and they did the thing with Kawhi. But then, you know, they thought Kawhi was faking his injury and he wasn't. And so, you know, that thing, that's why he ended up being out of. That's why he ended up getting traded out of San Antonio. It's just like I get it. It's just. It's just I it's just,

I think the thing is the questions. We're always going to have this question, even when his career is over. What if? Because we've seen Joel Embiid, when he's playing, ain't nothing like him. Hey,

lights out. He's 7'1", 7'2", 325, 330, can shoot the three. We've never seen a man", 325, 330. Can shoot the three. We've never seen a man his size, his weight, can shoot the three ball. Put the ball on the floor. Mid-range.

Can finish. Go put it on the floor. Get all the way to the rim. You can run anything with him. You can run dribble drive, dribble handoff, pick and pop. Offensively, he has no weakness. And he's a damn good defender. Right. He just can't stay healthy

he's a big ass man that had injuries as a young man that's exacerbated as he started to age I mean I wish I could give you a bit and I'm trying to tell y'all I mean normally

big young guys have problems with big men Zion he's hurt again, hamstring he gotta lose some of that weight, huh? my thing is is that

when you try to tell people that, Oh, y'all pick it on him. He played, he'd been that size his whole life. He has, he'd been playing NBA basketball his whole life. Different.

The type of energy you have to exert. The highest level is. He's always, he's always been the best. He's always been the best player. When high school, he was the best player in college. He was the best player.

He steps on the court every night. He is not the best player. When high school, he was the best player. In college, he was the best player. He steps on the court every night. He is not the best player. All those guys are really good. All those guys. You know, there are a lot of guys that he played against in high school that didn't go to college.

There's a lot of guys that he played against in college that didn't go to the NBA. Every guy that he plays up, steps on the court with, is in the NBA. So it takes a different level in order

for you to perform. He could probably go in high school, probably go 70% and drop 30% because he was so much better than everybody else. In college, he was better than everybody else. Nah, bro.

It takes a lot. And that's what you know even if you don't like Braun you don't like that he made the decision you don't like anything about it you gotta take your damn hat off to man's play 22 years and give

you the performances that he's given you time and time again. Jordan, you know he wasn't going to cheat you. Kobe, they wasn't going to cheat you. Like I said, I think now, Ocho, I've already come to the conclusion. We're not going to see the guys in today's game, for whatever reason, play 82 games is not a badge of honor for them. It used to be bad.

82. I got me 82 of these them. It used to be bad. 82. I got me 82 of these things. I played every single game. It's just like baseball. Baseball today, we see in these pitches, pitch like, you know, five-man rotations. Right. Because basically, everybody's

going five innings. Maybe you go six. Complete games. Somebody throw a complete game. Hell, they're running on sports center like five or six times because it's such an anomaly now. You got guys you don't want to see go through the four times through the lineup, so you might make it

three times through the lineup. After that, they're going to pull in. And now they're going righty-righty. They're going lefty-lefty. You're going to set up. You're going to get into your bullpen at the sixth inning. I mean, you look at the Dodgers. The Dodgers was bringing our guys to face one guy. Okay, you good, you gone. Okay, you come out, you lefty, they got two lefty, you

face both of them, you gone. That's where it is now. The days that you're seeing the Nolan rise and you're seeing those guys, you know. Randy Johnson said, it ain't happening no more. It's not. It's not. It's not. And the thing is,

when you see a talent like Joel Embiid, all you want to do is maximize that talent because you realize what you're watching. You understand just how great it is. But unfortunately, we're not going to be able to see Joel Embiid at his best because the injuries won't allow it we won't see it

consistently we've seen him we know what he can be yeah you said consistently okay I see what you mean night in and night out night in and night out I mean has there ever been a big man of that size that can do the things he does on the court?

No. That's why Kareem was able to play as long as he did. See? Because what did he do? Kareem stretched. Kareem managed his weight. Kareem probably dabbed to the same size he was when he played as a 74, 75-year-old man. He had a different frame, though.

That's my point. He got a different frame. So what should it? Ocho, if you're a big kid, you're going to be a big-ass man. He has a different frame though. So what should Ocho, if you're a big kid, you're going to be a big ass man. What's the likelihood that you coming into the league at a 300 pound man in the NBA,

you go out in the league as a 300 pound man? LeBron invests in his body. He made a decision that, you know, I want to play as long as I possibly can. And these are the steps I need to take. Tom Brady says, I want to play as long as I can.

Tom Brady said way back when he wanted to play until he was 50. We thought it was crazy. Oh, he meant that, but he took the steps. You can't wait till you get to year crazy. Oh, he meant that. But he took the steps. You can't wait till you get to year 10 like, oh man, I want to play. No.

If you haven't taken those steps, if you haven't watched what you eat and you haven't cleaned up your diet, you haven't done the thing, physios and PTs and all that stuff, hyperbaric shame, but cold toes. Hold on. Hold on. When you talk about the steps, you talk about the steps you talk about the steps of people that are not abnormal size what what steps can goddamn joel and b take

that that can promise and guarantee that he can play 82 games he can consistently no guarantee but without a diet and proper training ain't no chance of it happening you see people think hard work guarantees you something it doesn't guarantee you anything, but I can assure you this, without it, you got no chance. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You gotta, you gotta, Ocho, you gotta realize that's a big man and you're asking him to run up and down the court, jump up and

down continuous, night in and night out. Do you know how much that is? Think about how, Ocho, think about how your knees and your ankles felt. You're a 185-pound man playing cutting. Don't do that. Don't cut me short.

Don't cut off all my hard work. I done been in the gym. I done got myself a goddamn 227. You were 227 when you played. I'm saying, think about how you felt all that planting and cutting.

Now, imagine before they had turf. When they had turf and they didn't have grass or they didn't have this field turf. What your knees felt like. Now, imagine before they had turf. When they had turf and they didn't have grass, they didn't have this field turf. What your needs felt like. Now, imagine that. I'm going to put another hundred... I will put... No, you know what?

I will put 150 pounds on you. On me? On you. And ask you to do that same thing. Yeah. I'm not sure how that would have worked but um is it the fact that historically big men haven't fared well at that size in the nba i thought people would be a little

bit more lenient with with joel joel and beat and understanding why he's having a low met loads management instead of him actually playing night in and night out and then being out for the entirety of a season and missing more time again, as opposed to being low managing his body, understanding he can only do so much throughout an 82-game season. Well, if you know you're heavy,

what must you do? Manage your weight? Yeah. Eat properly? So do you think he can eat whatever he wants? Yeah, maybe he does. Maybe he has a nutritionist. Maybe he does.

Some of the things we hear about him, eating McDonald's or liking burgers. Ain't no hear about it. You see it. He was proud of that. Eating on camera. I'm sure that his change at this point is in his career.

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PT for like a couple of weeks. Like I said, see, physical therapy for a professional is something entirely different because he's going every day. He's going multiple times a day. As opposed to an average person, they get two a week,

but you're only getting that for what? You're getting 20 sessions? So you probably get, you go two a week for 10 weeks. You get 20 sessions? That's it. Maybe they'll write you another script for another eight sessions, which is another four weeks. That's it.

Damn. That's it. Damn. That's it. Pop probably getting it twice a day. Every day. Right. That's why athletes heal so much quicker than the general population. Not only because, you know,

the muscles and the things are stronger, but the therapy that we receive versus what you guys receive is something entirely different yeah that's why I got like damn he back already what you say he back yeah

yeah that's why you see Adrian Peterson able to come back in six seven months and do what he did. Rod Woodson had ACL surgery and played in the Superbowl. People forget about that. He must say have a full tear, huh?

Full tear played in the Superbowl. What the hell? What the hell type of vibranium? Jay Rice. what the hell type of vibranium jay rice jay rice tore his acl the first game and played late in the season yeah two touchdowns against us go look it up that's crazy but pop hey man bro we play praying for you thoughts and prayers for the nightcap family goes out to the San Antonio Spurs and Greg Popovich and his family. Thoughts and prayers to all the friends in San Antonio,

all Greg Popovich family, friends, and loved ones that loves and cares about Pop. Hey, the Nightcap crew over here, we're praying for you, bro. Get well soon. Want to see you back on the court. Not talking to reporters. Victor Wimbbenyama scored a career-high 50 points, including a career-high

8 three-pointers and a 139-130 win over the Wizards. At 20 years, 314 days, Wimbenyama is the fourth youngest player to score 50 points. At 7'4", he's also the tallest to do it. The youngest player to do it was Brandon Jennings.

He did it at 20 years, 52 days. LeBron James is the second oldest. He did it at 20 years, 80 days. Devin Booker was the third. He did it at 20 years, 145 days. Victor Wiminyama did it at 20 years, 314 days. And LeBron did it again

on December 10th, 2005 at 20 years, 345 days. So... A Wimby? Well, Wimby is special. For sure. days. So, a Wimby, but Wimby is special, for sure. How many times have we seen somebody that young that can put the ball

on the floor, create his own shot, run the pick and roll from distance at, he got a three-point shot, he got a mid-range, but where the fuck is the weakness? It's not that his age is his size.

We've never seen somebody that size, 7'4 and a half, that can put the ball on the floor, like you said, can shoot the three ball, plays outstanding defense. We've never seen anybody his size, his skill

in the history of the game. Yeah. I mean, most guys, when you think about people that tall, they're very, I don't know if I'm saying this right, they're very lethargic. The way that they move is very God damn,

how do you say it, man? They move like Zach Eady. They move like rest his soul Mark Eaton. they move like Zack Eady they move like rest his soul Mark Eaton they move like rest his soul Sean Bradley Manute Bowles guys like what's his Boban yeah you know what the best thing I can think about it people that height

and that size are not twitchy no that means Wimby is twitchy he can face you up put the ball on floor, cross you up like a goddamn AI and go to the basket. Man, at 7'4"? You want God to give the man everything. So you want God to make somebody 7'5", give him fast twitch fiber. What the hell?

He got it. He got it. He got it. He going to be special. I mean, yeah, he can pass the ball. Yeah. And I think the thing is that what I've been most impressed when I hear him talk is that he wants to be great. And he wants to take the steps necessary.

Because a lot of people talk about being great. But do you understand the steps that it takes in order for you to be great so you just don't roll out of bed one morning so you know what i think i'll be great be great today now you live that every single day oh yeah every single day what you do how you approach the game i mean listen to people talk what What JR said. What has everybody said about LeBron? The steps. First in. Last to leave. Shooting. Getting the shots up.

Cold tub. Hot tub. Physio. This. That. Hyperbaric chamber. Stem. Everything.

What you hear about it. Yeah. Discipline. No shortcuts. No shortcuts. No shortcuts. Sometimes, you know, people fold when they get that money now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes people fold and they're just going through the motions

once they get that money. That's what I didn't understand, Ocho. Is that my thing was when I got the big payday, I wanted you to show within a year or two, I was underpaid. I wanted to get to the... I was like, well, y'all just gave me this.

Man, please. I'm finna go get the next bag. And with basketball players, think about it. Jason Tatum making 320, 330. Dude, Jason Tatum, 26. His next contract gonna probably be 400 million.

That man's gonna make a billion dollars just in basketball. No endorsement. Just basketball. Right. That's crazy. So I never got after me because I've seen it. Guys get the bag and then they don't train. They

don't do what they did in order to get that. Right. Nah, bro. You got to be hungry. I think I said Mark Eaton is deceased, right? Sean Bradley, I think, got paralyzed in a bike accident.

Mark Eaton got run over on a bike. Correct? I know Sean Bradley got paralyzed. I think he was riding a bicycle. He got ran over the... Both of them. Markeaton got ran over the bike. Both of them. Mark Eaton got ran over the bicycle too. Yeah.

Both of them in Utah. I thought I remember reading that a while ago. Mark Eaton was a tall guy, was a defensive player of the year for the Utah Jazz, played a number of years for the Utah Jazz. He was an all-star on a bike in Utahah got ran over got killed sean bradley from utah mormon got ran over the bike got paralyzed what's going on over there with them bikes huh bro look here that's why i stopped riding unless you unless you want to trail oh no they're like bicycles oh but you no. But you're on the street.

Right. And, you know, people don't take, you know, look. They don't pay attention. No. They don't pay attention. No. And, you know. And it don't take much for you to go down on that bike.

They hit that back tire. You're on the ground. You're up under the car. You don't take much for you to go down on that bike. They hit that back tire, you're on the ground, you're up under the car. You don't see, you don't anticipate how fast that car is going and it's up on you before you know it, boom. And like I said, that's why I stopped riding, don't you? I stopped riding my bike because I used to ride too. I would always try to get up early in the mornings, try to get out before the traffic got bad. And me and a couple of partners, we go out, we go 30 miles ride through

the city of Atlanta, but it just got to the point it just wasn't. And I rode a lot, especially when I played. But I just like, nah, it's not even worth it if I can't get to a... Now, Colorado is very conducive because you can get trails and you can go from Denver all the way to Colorado Springs.

You go up the boulder and never coming back, come in contact with a with a vehicle. But in the streets like like Atlanta and I see people riding in L.A. and hell no. Especially now, the way the traffic is in Atlanta. Nah, nah, you just you just asking for trouble. So I said, no. I'm good. Ocho Carmelo Anthony says he wanted to leave the game because of basketball after

a young player called him up. We're playing in Denver. This is the first time I played in Denver in a long time. I go back. Michael Porter's guarding me. I catch it on a quick right elbow, just like that. Catch it. Post. Quick jab. Go left. Lay up. Boom. He like, damn up. I ain't elbow, just like that. Catch it, post, quick jab, go left, lay up, boom. He like, damn, I didn't know you still had that.

Hell no. Hey, Mello, funny, man. I just did a podcast of Mello and Rudy Gay last week. I really enjoyed that. Hearing their stories, some of their basketball stories, some of the things that they've been through to get to the point and when they knew they were at the end of their career.

So, man, that was very, very, very, very enjoyable, man. And, damn, when you think about it, when you watch, when you watch, watch mellow highlights, man, Mello, one of the greatest scores of all time, one of the greatest players of all time. And it was dope just to be in his presence. And obviously Rudy Gay is Rudy Gay is very good at his craft as well. So just being in their presence and talking sports and,

and what it took, you know, for us to get where we got to and how our paths were all different, but the end goal was all the same. Yeah, for sure. That was dope. That was dope.

The thing is that I noticed, um, as I know my time was, I just couldn't give it to you. Like I once could, I could put the games together when I was in my prime, I could give you games. I can give you a hundred and a hundred and and 100 and 90 and 80.

As I started to get older, my mind said, oh, yeah. Oh, but right, right, right, right. But the body, the body can't do it. I can have that one big game. Hence, in my 13th year, I broke the NFL record for most receiving yards in a game by tight end. Yeah. What was it? 15 or 17? That was year 13 for me.

No, I'm saying how many catches? I had 12 for 214. Woo! But, oh, we're cooking, boy! You were cooking, huh? But, and I ended up, that was going to be a special year. Because I felt, oh, Ocho, I had, man, I had a guy with a speed coach.

I started to train differently. My body looked different. I felt so good. I knew this was going to be a special year. You was light, too. I bet you was light. Yeah, I felt good. I bet you were at your lightest that year.

I always, no, the thing was, Ocho, my body was different. I always came into camp at 232. That was my reporting weight. I always wanted to be 232. Even though as I started to get older, Mike was like, look, you can come in. If you want to come in at 35, 36, I said no. I wanted the pressure

to know I had to be at this weight. Even as I got older, I still wanted that. I still needed to weight. Even as I got older, I still wanted that. I still needed to focus. I'm like, okay, you got to be at this weight. And so, but as I started to get older, Ocho, I just couldn't give it to him back to back like that. And I could have a big game and then I'd have 120.

And the next thing you know, I go 30, 40. And a lot of that, you know, Rod has started to become become rod was the focal point of the offense that was cool too um but i found myself as i watch myself and i go back and look i was like yeah because now all of a sudden i didn't have that same i didn't have that same ability to run through tackles right Right. The least, I mean, thank the guy. I would, the guys, like when I was in my prime guy, hit my clip,

my foot, I would stumble and still go and still go get your first down. Got hit my foot. I get two yards. I'm, I have the same balance, but I, but,

but, but, but I, I do. Oh, Joe, you know, you know,

you know, yeah, guys know. Yeah. Let me get like, but I ain't know. know, you know, you know. Yeah. Guys know. But I ain't know. Yeah, you do. You know. If you on our team, you'd know because I'd have told you.

Mm-hmm. And one thing about it, when it comes to us, we won't be honest with ourselves until we actually see it on film. And you never know until you see it on film because your mind is telling you you're doing it right,

but your body ain't doing it until you watch it. Yes. You got to see a bad old show. I remember one time I was watching myself in practice on practice tape. And I'm like, damn, somebody moving real slow. Man, that thing, that camera turned around. He had on 84. Damn, that's me.

Oh, man. Yeah, nah. I said, yeah, I think it's about time. Yeah. I guess it's about time for me to head on to the house. But like I said, you know, hey, my second, hold on, I think it was my game 13. No, 14.

Yeah. No, game 14, because we had two games left. I was offensive player of the week. Went for three touchdowns, called seven for a buckle, won three had two games left. I was offensive player of the week. Went for three touchdowns, called seven for a buckle, won three times against San Diego. We played Cleveland. We won that game.

I think I had okay numbers. Green Bay, we didn't play because we had everything already clinched. So my last year, Ocho, I had like 770 yards, 8 touchdowns and you know Porter's ran for 1600 yards so we were a running team so it was like I still could play but I just like man

if you go back and look at my numbers where they ranked among the tight end, I think I was like second or third at no worse than fourth and guys were way way younger than me but it just wasn't me, Ocho. It wasn't me. I had to accept

that, like, man, I'm seeing it down the line. Damn. Just don't look right. It ain't what you're used to. No, hell no. Coming to grips with reality and understanding your body can't do

it anymore, but your mind can. That's one of the worst feelings. The mind willing. The body just unable. Hey, you know, hey. I mean, hey. In my mind,

man, I'm more than enough man for a woman. But the body says, Shannon, you're not quite good enough for two, though. You got to understand that, don't y'all? Hey, I think I'm more than enough for a woman. Right, right.

I'm not nearly enough for two, though. Yeah. So, man, it just... That's a good one. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify, the thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain, this is the struggle.

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